| jbicha | jcastro_: boxes isn't tested much in Ubuntu | 01:11 |
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| jbicha | is your host 32-bit or 64-bit? do you have hardware virtualization? | 01:12 |
| jbicha | I really, really hope that we can just delay the next October Ubuntu release by a week so that we don't have to file SRU bugs for all of the gnome .1 release | 01:18 |
| === jono is now known as Guest36495 | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 04:39 |
| BigWhale | Good Morning Everyone. | 04:50 |
| RAOF | Everyone: good morning BigWhale | 04:57 |
| BigWhale | Hey RAOF. :) | 05:10 |
| BigWhale | Ok, office time and it's pouring outside ... :/ *cringe* | 05:10 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:38 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:43 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti | 05:43 |
| RAOF | pitti: Is there a way to prod the armhf retracers to get to bug #1063055, or should I be spinning up an armhf schroot? | 05:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1063055 in colord "colord-sane crashed with SIGABRT in raise()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063055 | 05:50 |
| pitti | RAOF: we do not have armhf retracers | 05:51 |
| RAOF | pitti: Ah. So where it's got the ‘needs-armhf-retrace’ tag, that's a filthy lie? | 05:51 |
| pitti | RAOF: well, not quite -- it does _need_ it, we just don't have anything to satisfy that need :/ | 05:51 |
| RAOF | Heh | 05:52 |
| RAOF | Ok; one schroot + apport-retrace coming up. | 05:52 |
| pitti | \o/ | 05:52 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| jibel | good morning | 06:32 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 06:34 |
| jibel | Bonjour didrocks , ça va ? | 06:35 |
| didrocks | jibel: on fait aller, et toi? | 06:35 |
| jibel | didrocks, Un peu cassé, à force de faire du testing jusqu'à pas d'heure, mais ça va, ça va. | 06:36 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 07:53 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:53 |
| jibel | bonjour seb128 | 07:54 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, jibel, vous allez bien ? | 07:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: et toi? | 07:56 |
| jibel | seb128, ça va bien | 07:56 |
| seb128 | ca va bien ;-) pas complètement réveillé mais je travaille dessus avec du café :p | 07:57 |
| didrocks | seb128: meeting report reminder | 07:57 |
| seb128 | didrocks, oh, right, thanks ;-) | 07:58 |
| didrocks | yw | 07:58 |
| === jhernand1z is now known as jhernandez | ||
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, wie gehts? | 08:21 |
| pitti | seb128: je vais bien, merci! et toi? | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, moi aussi, merci ;-) | 08:22 |
| Laney | morning | 08:25 |
| * Laney is →← close to buying SSD for laptop | 08:25 | |
| mvo | seb128: good morning! do you happen to know if there is a special css component in the gtk bugzilla? I found a memleak that makes me rather unhappy | 08:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, do it! ;-) | 08:28 |
| Laney | just did it for desktop | 08:28 |
| Laney | and now the laptop feels unusable :P | 08:28 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey, how are you? No specific component I know about, just open a bug and maybe ping Company about it on IRC | 08:29 |
| mvo | Laney: haha, happend for me as well | 08:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, hehe | 08:29 |
| mvo | Laney: the other way around though, got a ssd in the laptop and wouldn't touch the desktop anymore | 08:29 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks | 08:29 |
| mlankhorst | mvo: can i ping you on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1062503 ? | 08:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1062503 in apt "apt fails to install libglapi-mesa-lts-quantal correctly on switching x stacks" [High,New] | 08:46 |
| mvo | mlankhorst: yes, sorry, release crayiness stopped me | 08:47 |
| mlankhorst | no worries :) | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:50 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 08:54 |
| xnox | Does anyone have any idea there "Start Screen Saver" item comes from in this screenshot: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/119833082/Screenshot%20from%202012-10-15%2014%3A02%3A43.png | 09:00 |
| xnox | I can't find it in ubiquity.... but what else? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | xnox, indicator-session | 09:05 |
| seb128 | xnox, those icons on the top right are indicators | 09:06 |
| xnox | seb128: true. except that we fake them in install only ubiquity session. | 09:06 |
| xnox | static gchar * indicator_order[] = { | 09:06 |
| xnox | "indicator-session-devices", | 09:06 |
| xnox | "indicator-sound", | 09:06 |
| xnox | "nm-applet", | 09:06 |
| xnox | "bluetooth-manager", | 09:06 |
| xnox | "ubiquity", | 09:06 |
| xnox | "keyboard", | 09:06 |
| xnox | NULL | 09:07 |
| xnox | }; | 09:07 |
| * xnox is confused. | 09:07 | |
| seb128 | xnox, is the issue the "non translated"? | 09:07 |
| xnox | seb128: the issue is that we make a gsettings call to "disable all screensavers" during install (as black screen is confusing during slow installs), yet that item is present in the menu. | 09:08 |
| xnox | I'd rather not have that item there at all, while ubiquity is running. | 09:08 |
| xnox | Any magical gsettings I can flip to make it disappear? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | xnox, translation issue was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1037001 | 09:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1037001 in ubiquity "[l10n][zh_CN] Indicator menus should be fully localized for installer" [High,Fix released] | 09:10 |
| seb128 | xnox, no, you would need code patch, it seems a good idea to open a bug against indicator-session asking for that item to be hidden if the key to disable screenlocking is set | 09:11 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i'm good thanks. how are you? | 09:11 |
| xnox | seb128: well we reload some indicators which are purely ours, but not all of them. Thanks for the pointer. | 09:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i wish my builds in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/ would stop failing! | 09:11 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks | 09:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did they change api again? | 09:14 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, not sure. it's because of the patches we carry | 09:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i spend too much time refreshing patches ;) | 09:14 |
| xnox | seb128: ok, but how come in the installed (my) system I don't have that item? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | xnox, you should, I've it there | 09:15 |
| seb128 | xnox, do you have gnome-screensaver installed? | 09:15 |
| xnox | yes. | 09:16 |
| xnox | "Lock/Switch Accounts" Ctrl-Alt-L is what I have.... | 09:16 |
| xnox | "Lock/Switch Account..." Ctrl-Alt-L is what I have.... | 09:16 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:17 |
| seb128 | I know what you mean now, different wordings | 09:17 |
| seb128 | let me check | 09:17 |
| xnox | come to think of it, I have power management (screens turn off) and screen locks, but I've yet to see an actual screensaver on my system. | 09:18 |
| xnox | maybe my system is non-standard though..... but it ought to be. | 09:18 |
| xnox | are you telling me there is cool screensaver I never saw? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | "screensaver", like drawings on screen? | 09:18 |
| seb128 | those got dropped in GNOME3 | 09:19 |
| seb128 | xnox, ok, so the mode is defined by | 09:20 |
| seb128 | get_switcher_mode() | 09:20 |
| seb128 | const gboolean can_lock = !g_settings_get_boolean (mgr->lockdown_settings, | 09:20 |
| seb128 | "disable-lock-screen"); | 09:20 |
| seb128 | const gboolean can_switch = is_user_switching_allowed (mgr); | 09:20 |
| seb128 | xnox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282746/ | 09:21 |
| seb128 | basically | 09:21 |
| xnox | seb128: interesting. Which package is that? I want to see is_this_live_session() & is_this_guest_session() | 09:23 |
| seb128 | xnox, indicator-session src/session-menu-mgr.c | 09:23 |
| xnox | we change: gs_schema = 'org.gnome.desktop.screensaver' gs_key = 'idle-activation-enabled' | 09:23 |
| xnox | maybe we should flic disable-lock-screen then. | 09:23 |
| xnox | as well. | 09:23 |
| seb128 | xnox, you probably should | 09:29 |
| glatzor | hello mvo | 11:03 |
| * glatzor is in schwerer not | 11:03 | |
| glatzor | mvo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/1066457 | 11:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1066457 in aptdaemon "Missing dpkg-dev dependency results in false bad quality warnings when installing local packages" [Critical,In progress] | 11:03 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| dholbach | hiya | 11:21 |
| dholbach | do you have an opinion about this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/quantal/lightdm-gtk-greeter/lang-chooser-on-by-default/+merge/129758 | 11:21 |
| dholbach | it's arguably a bit late | 11:22 |
| mvo | glatzor: hello, let me have a look | 11:31 |
| seb128 | dholbach, hey ;-) | 11:31 |
| mvo | glatzor: "schwere not" oh oh | 11:31 |
| * mvo hugs glatzor | 11:31 | |
| seb128 | dholbach, it's a question for the flavors that use the gtk greeter, Ubuntu uses unity-greeter; I think e.g xubuntu uses the gtk one | 11:31 |
| dholbach | ahhhhhh ok | 11:31 |
| dholbach | I understand | 11:31 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| * glatzor waves to seb128 and dholbach | 11:42 | |
| glatzor | servus! | 11:42 |
| dholbach | hey glatzor :) | 11:42 |
| seb128 | glatzor, hey, how are you? | 11:42 |
| glatzor | I am fine :) and your self? | 11:42 |
| glatzor | thanks mvo | 11:42 |
| dholbach | is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/1065324 something we will get in anyway through a 3.4.4 release as SRU or is it something we would like to get in through -proposed sooner? | 11:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1065324 in totem "Totem-mozilla plugin fails to display video in online .mov & .mp4" [Medium,Fix released] | 11:46 |
| seb128 | glatzor, I'm good thanks | 11:46 |
| seb128 | dholbach, will you be at UDS? | 11:46 |
| dholbach | seb128, yes | 11:46 |
| seb128 | doh | 11:46 |
| seb128 | glatzor, will you be at UDS | 11:46 |
| seb128 | dholbach, thanks :p let that totem bug to me, I will handle it as well | 11:47 |
| dholbach | seb128, awesome | 11:47 |
| glatzor | seb128, Unfortunately not. I was too late to get it sponsored (I was travelling arround in August without a computer and so missed the date) | 11:47 |
| seb128 | dholbach, ok, fine, you convinced me I should review desktopish items on the sponsor list this afternoon | 11:47 |
| seb128 | dholbach, so feel free to let me anything desktopish | 11:47 |
| seb128 | glatzor, hum, ok, maybe next time then! | 11:48 |
| dholbach | seb128, perfect | 11:48 |
| glatzor | seb128, you never know :) | 11:48 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| desrt | good morning | 12:29 |
| dholbach | seb128, is https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/gnome-shell/apport-hook-update-lp1058845/+merge/127410 something we should still get in? | 12:54 |
| Laney | pitti: you working on glib 2.34.1? do you dare touch it any more? :P | 12:55 |
| pitti | Laney: I'm not ATM; I've got a few tasks to finish before I could start on it | 12:56 |
| Laney | oh, but you do plan on | 12:56 |
| pitti | no, I didn't | 12:56 |
| pitti | I don't do desktop stuff unless someone asks me to, except pygobject | 12:56 |
| Laney | right, I will then | 12:57 |
| Laney | I wasn't clear on whether you were still doing it | 12:57 |
| === doko__ is now known as doko | ||
| seb128 | dholbach, that's one for jbicha | 13:06 |
| dholbach | ah great | 13:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you plan to SRU that? | 13:06 |
| Laney | seb128: I think so | 13:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, glib seems fine, gtk not really | 13:11 |
| Laney | yeah, "huge refactoring" really gives me confidence | 13:12 |
| seb128 | they did refactoring in a stable update again... | 13:12 |
| seb128 | that's 2 series in a row, they rewrote GtkIconView in a stable update in 3.4 | 13:12 |
| seb128 | I officially hate GNOME handling of "stable" series :-( | 13:12 |
| jcastro_ | didrocks: hey, the link I posted there was to the script without the shelling out to commands. | 13:13 |
| jcastro_ | didrocks: anyway they've been working on it, so there will be more updates today | 13:13 |
| didrocks | jcastro_: I would love that, we can even SRU it IMHO | 13:13 |
| jcastro_ | oh really? nice! | 13:14 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i hate upstreams who rewrite stuff in stable updates too ;) | 13:14 |
| Laney | hrhr | 13:14 |
| chrisccoulson | talking of gtk, i need to make myself a debug build | 13:15 |
| Laney | probably some cherry-picks can be done for gtk though | 13:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, I'm leaning toward not spending too much time on nonLTS SRUs though | 13:17 |
| jbicha | dholbach: yes, but maybe we'll just bundle with gnome-shell 3.6.1 | 13:18 |
| seb128 | we have enough work we will need to get done next cycle | 13:18 |
| seb128 | so I would rather start on that early | 13:18 |
| dholbach | jbicha, cool | 13:24 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| bcurtiswx | good morning | 13:56 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, didrocks, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time, if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-10-16 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet | 15:28 |
| * kenvandine waves | 15:30 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey ;-) | 15:31 |
| desrt | pitti: is there any way that apport can make note of the time that has elapsed between the coredump occuring and the dialog actually being presented to the user? | 15:41 |
| desrt | ie: so we can make better guesses about issues that happened at shutdown only to be reported with a dialog at the next bootup? | 15:41 |
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| seb128 | Laney, can you cherry pick http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=212ffcc574d929ca0715960b4f29a4aab909a251 when you update/SRU glib? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, it fixes one of the most reported issues on e.u.c | 16:35 |
| Laney | seb128: sure | 16:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 16:39 |
| === robru_ is now known as robru | ||
| kenvandine | davmor2, i uploaded the dialpad icon fix to -proposed | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, when you see the SRU accepted, please verify it | 17:23 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: nice, will do | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | thx | 17:25 |
| === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha | ||
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh robert_ancell RAOF and TheMuso reminder about weekly meeting and update items https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-10-16 | 22:03 |
| * bryceh waves | 22:03 | |
| RAOF | Good morning all! | 22:04 |
| mlankhorst | Hello, world!\n | 22:04 |
| bryceh | I've some updates on gaming stuff | 22:06 |
| RAOF | Oooh | 22:06 |
| bryceh | the nvidia beta driver 310.14 was just released yesterday, is packaged and ready for sru review. Hoping to get that out today so we can demonstrate a swift packaging turnaround. | 22:06 |
| bryceh | we're in process of establishing an fglrx-experimental-9 package. This is on Alberto's todo list and he has everything he needs. | 22:07 |
| bryceh | I'm going to merge mesa9 into x-updates today, along with -ati and -nouveau (and maybe weston), once I've completed an input device script update for another project | 22:08 |
| bryceh | apart from drivers, one of the other issues folks are worried about with gaming is performance with unity while full screen | 22:09 |
| bryceh | Neil indicated there's several driver bugs which inhibit them from rolling out unity fixes, so I think those bugs are priorities for us | 22:09 |
| bryceh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu?field.tag=unredirect | 22:09 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, I assigned the nouveau bug on that list to you - hope you don't mind, and please let me know your thoughts once you've had a chance to look | 22:10 |
| bryceh | the intel bug on that list I'll work on; sounds like it needs some git bisection to locate the patch(es), but I might ask Intel for help | 22:11 |
| mlankhorst | really hard to get a hold of upstream though | 22:11 |
| mlankhorst | I'm tempted to do some commit myself because maintainer doesn't respond :/ | 22:11 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, yes if you know how to fix it, please do | 22:11 |
| mlankhorst | i mean on a patch that's not mine | 22:12 |
| RAOF | You're welcome to fix in Ubuntu :) | 22:12 |
| bryceh | there's an fglrx bug on that list which I guess we should reproduce and send to AMD. Not sure who to own that, but I may try reproducing it first | 22:12 |
| bryceh | mlankhorst, right yeah, fixing in ubuntu for now and just notifying upstream of the issue and/or patch is definitely a-okay | 22:13 |
| bryceh | the other bugs on that list appear to be compiz issues, so haven't looked at them. | 22:13 |
| mlankhorst | well i have nouveau commit access | 22:15 |
| mlankhorst | ill take a look tomorrow | 22:16 |
| bryceh | ok thanks :-) | 22:17 |
| cyphermox | RAOF: is it your turn for reviewing SRUs? I need precise SRUs reviewed for NM | 22:17 |
| RAOF | cyphermox: Indeed it is! | 22:17 |
| cyphermox | oh yay | 22:18 |
| cyphermox | RAOF: also, good morning/evening :) | 22:18 |
| RAOF | What's cookin'? | 22:18 |
| RAOF | (Or failing to cook, pending SRU acceptance ☺) | 22:18 |
| cyphermox | some less likely to be rejected fixes | 22:18 |
| cyphermox | ;) | 22:18 |
| RAOF | Just network-manager 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu4.2? | 22:18 |
| cyphermox | yep | 22:18 |
| cyphermox | stuff to avoid unnecessary error messages, fixes for IPv6, etc. | 22:19 |
| RAOF | cyphermox: Those SRU bugs are marvellously clear, thank you. | 22:35 |
| cyphermox | sweet, thanks for pointing it out | 22:35 |
| cyphermox | I have a hard time explaining things outside the problem domain sometimes :) | 22:35 |
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