[01:11] jcastro_: boxes isn't tested much in Ubuntu [01:12] is your host 32-bit or 64-bit? do you have hardware virtualization? [01:18] I really, really hope that we can just delay the next October Ubuntu release by a week so that we don't have to file SRU bugs for all of the gnome .1 release === jono is now known as Guest36495 [04:39] Good morning [04:50] Good Morning Everyone. [04:57] Everyone: good morning BigWhale [05:10] Hey RAOF. :) [05:10] Ok, office time and it's pouring outside ... :/ *cringe* [05:38] good morning [05:43] bonjour didrocks [05:43] guten morgen pitti [05:50] pitti: Is there a way to prod the armhf retracers to get to bug #1063055, or should I be spinning up an armhf schroot? [05:50] Launchpad bug 1063055 in colord "colord-sane crashed with SIGABRT in raise()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063055 [05:51] RAOF: we do not have armhf retracers [05:51] pitti: Ah. So where it's got the ‘needs-armhf-retrace’ tag, that's a filthy lie? [05:51] RAOF: well, not quite -- it does _need_ it, we just don't have anything to satisfy that need :/ [05:52] Heh [05:52] Ok; one schroot + apport-retrace coming up. [05:52] \o/ === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [06:32] good morning [06:34] salut jibel [06:35] Bonjour didrocks , ça va ? [06:35] jibel: on fait aller, et toi? [06:36] didrocks, Un peu cassé, à force de faire du testing jusqu'à pas d'heure, mais ça va, ça va. [07:53] hey desktopers [07:53] salut seb128 [07:54] bonjour seb128 [07:56] lut didrocks, jibel, vous allez bien ? [07:56] seb128: et toi? [07:56] seb128, ça va bien [07:57] ca va bien ;-) pas complètement réveillé mais je travaille dessus avec du café :p [07:57] seb128: meeting report reminder [07:58] didrocks, oh, right, thanks ;-) [07:58] yw === jhernand1z is now known as jhernandez [08:21] bonjour seb128 [08:21] pitti, hey, wie gehts? [08:22] seb128: je vais bien, merci! et toi? [08:22] pitti, moi aussi, merci ;-) [08:25] morning [08:25] * Laney is →← close to buying SSD for laptop [08:26] seb128: good morning! do you happen to know if there is a special css component in the gtk bugzilla? I found a memleak that makes me rather unhappy [08:28] Laney, do it! ;-) [08:28] just did it for desktop [08:28] and now the laptop feels unusable :P [08:29] mvo, hey, how are you? No specific component I know about, just open a bug and maybe ping Company about it on IRC [08:29] Laney: haha, happend for me as well [08:29] Laney, hehe [08:29] Laney: the other way around though, got a ssd in the laptop and wouldn't touch the desktop anymore [08:29] seb128: thanks [08:46] mvo: can i ping you on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1062503 ? [08:46] Launchpad bug 1062503 in apt "apt fails to install libglapi-mesa-lts-quantal correctly on switching x stacks" [High,New] [08:47] mlankhorst: yes, sorry, release crayiness stopped me [08:47] no worries :) [08:50] good morning everyone [08:54] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? [09:00] Does anyone have any idea there "Start Screen Saver" item comes from in this screenshot: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/119833082/Screenshot%20from%202012-10-15%2014%3A02%3A43.png [09:00] I can't find it in ubiquity.... but what else? [09:05] xnox, indicator-session [09:06] xnox, those icons on the top right are indicators [09:06] seb128: true. except that we fake them in install only ubiquity session. [09:06] static gchar * indicator_order[] = { [09:06] "indicator-session-devices", [09:06] "indicator-sound", [09:06] "nm-applet", [09:06] "bluetooth-manager", [09:06] "ubiquity", [09:06] "keyboard", [09:07] NULL [09:07] }; [09:07] * xnox is confused. [09:07] xnox, is the issue the "non translated"? [09:08] seb128: the issue is that we make a gsettings call to "disable all screensavers" during install (as black screen is confusing during slow installs), yet that item is present in the menu. [09:08] I'd rather not have that item there at all, while ubiquity is running. [09:08] Any magical gsettings I can flip to make it disappear? [09:10] xnox, translation issue was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1037001 [09:10] Launchpad bug 1037001 in ubiquity "[l10n][zh_CN] Indicator menus should be fully localized for installer" [High,Fix released] [09:11] xnox, no, you would need code patch, it seems a good idea to open a bug against indicator-session asking for that item to be hidden if the key to disable screenlocking is set [09:11] seb128, yeah, i'm good thanks. how are you? [09:11] seb128: well we reload some indicators which are purely ours, but not all of them. Thanks for the pointer. [09:11] i wish my builds in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/ would stop failing! [09:13] chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks [09:14] chrisccoulson, did they change api again? [09:14] seb128, not sure. it's because of the patches we carry [09:14] i spend too much time refreshing patches ;) [09:15] seb128: ok, but how come in the installed (my) system I don't have that item? [09:15] xnox, you should, I've it there [09:15] xnox, do you have gnome-screensaver installed? [09:16] yes. [09:16] "Lock/Switch Accounts" Ctrl-Alt-L is what I have.... [09:16] "Lock/Switch Account..." Ctrl-Alt-L is what I have.... [09:17] oh [09:17] I know what you mean now, different wordings [09:17] let me check [09:18] come to think of it, I have power management (screens turn off) and screen locks, but I've yet to see an actual screensaver on my system. [09:18] maybe my system is non-standard though..... but it ought to be. [09:18] are you telling me there is cool screensaver I never saw? [09:18] "screensaver", like drawings on screen? [09:19] those got dropped in GNOME3 [09:20] xnox, ok, so the mode is defined by [09:20] get_switcher_mode() [09:20] const gboolean can_lock = !g_settings_get_boolean (mgr->lockdown_settings, [09:20] "disable-lock-screen"); [09:20] const gboolean can_switch = is_user_switching_allowed (mgr); [09:21] xnox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282746/ [09:21] basically [09:23] seb128: interesting. Which package is that? I want to see is_this_live_session() & is_this_guest_session() [09:23] xnox, indicator-session src/session-menu-mgr.c [09:23] we change: gs_schema = 'org.gnome.desktop.screensaver' gs_key = 'idle-activation-enabled' [09:23] maybe we should flic disable-lock-screen then. [09:23] as well. [09:29] xnox, you probably should [11:03] hello mvo [11:03] * glatzor is in schwerer not [11:03] mvo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/1066457 [11:03] Launchpad bug 1066457 in aptdaemon "Missing dpkg-dev dependency results in false bad quality warnings when installing local packages" [Critical,In progress] === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:21] hiya [11:21] do you have an opinion about this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/quantal/lightdm-gtk-greeter/lang-chooser-on-by-default/+merge/129758 [11:22] it's arguably a bit late [11:31] glatzor: hello, let me have a look [11:31] dholbach, hey ;-) [11:31] glatzor: "schwere not" oh oh [11:31] * mvo hugs glatzor [11:31] dholbach, it's a question for the flavors that use the gtk greeter, Ubuntu uses unity-greeter; I think e.g xubuntu uses the gtk one [11:31] ahhhhhh ok [11:31] I understand === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:42] * glatzor waves to seb128 and dholbach [11:42] servus! [11:42] hey glatzor :) [11:42] glatzor, hey, how are you? [11:42] I am fine :) and your self? [11:42] thanks mvo [11:45] is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/1065324 something we will get in anyway through a 3.4.4 release as SRU or is it something we would like to get in through -proposed sooner? [11:46] Launchpad bug 1065324 in totem "Totem-mozilla plugin fails to display video in online .mov & .mp4" [Medium,Fix released] [11:46] glatzor, I'm good thanks [11:46] dholbach, will you be at UDS? [11:46] seb128, yes [11:46] doh [11:46] glatzor, will you be at UDS [11:47] dholbach, thanks :p let that totem bug to me, I will handle it as well [11:47] seb128, awesome [11:47] seb128, Unfortunately not. I was too late to get it sponsored (I was travelling arround in August without a computer and so missed the date) [11:47] dholbach, ok, fine, you convinced me I should review desktopish items on the sponsor list this afternoon [11:47] dholbach, so feel free to let me anything desktopish [11:48] glatzor, hum, ok, maybe next time then! [11:48] seb128, perfect [11:48] seb128, you never know :) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:29] good morning [12:54] seb128, is https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/gnome-shell/apport-hook-update-lp1058845/+merge/127410 something we should still get in? [12:55] pitti: you working on glib 2.34.1? do you dare touch it any more? :P [12:56] Laney: I'm not ATM; I've got a few tasks to finish before I could start on it [12:56] oh, but you do plan on [12:56] no, I didn't [12:56] I don't do desktop stuff unless someone asks me to, except pygobject [12:57] right, I will then [12:57] I wasn't clear on whether you were still doing it === doko__ is now known as doko [13:06] dholbach, that's one for jbicha [13:06] ah great [13:06] Laney, do you plan to SRU that? [13:11] seb128: I think so [13:11] Laney, ok, glib seems fine, gtk not really [13:12] yeah, "huge refactoring" really gives me confidence [13:12] they did refactoring in a stable update again... [13:12] that's 2 series in a row, they rewrote GtkIconView in a stable update in 3.4 [13:12] I officially hate GNOME handling of "stable" series :-( [13:13] didrocks: hey, the link I posted there was to the script without the shelling out to commands. [13:13] didrocks: anyway they've been working on it, so there will be more updates today [13:13] jcastro_: I would love that, we can even SRU it IMHO [13:14] oh really? nice! [13:14] seb128, yeah, i hate upstreams who rewrite stuff in stable updates too ;) [13:14] hrhr [13:15] talking of gtk, i need to make myself a debug build [13:16] probably some cherry-picks can be done for gtk though [13:17] Laney, yeah, I'm leaning toward not spending too much time on nonLTS SRUs though [13:18] dholbach: yes, but maybe we'll just bundle with gnome-shell 3.6.1 [13:18] we have enough work we will need to get done next cycle [13:18] so I would rather start on that early [13:24] jbicha, cool === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:56] good morning [15:28] kenvandine, didrocks, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time, if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-10-16 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet [15:30] * kenvandine waves [15:31] kenvandine, hey ;-) [15:41] pitti: is there any way that apport can make note of the time that has elapsed between the coredump occuring and the dialog actually being presented to the user? [15:41] ie: so we can make better guesses about issues that happened at shutdown only to be reported with a dialog at the next bootup? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [16:35] Laney, can you cherry pick http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=212ffcc574d929ca0715960b4f29a4aab909a251 when you update/SRU glib? [16:35] Laney, it fixes one of the most reported issues on e.u.c [16:37] seb128: sure [16:39] Laney, thanks === robru_ is now known as robru [17:23] davmor2, i uploaded the dialpad icon fix to -proposed [17:23] davmor2, when you see the SRU accepted, please verify it [17:24] kenvandine: nice, will do [17:25] thx === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:03] bryceh robert_ancell RAOF and TheMuso reminder about weekly meeting and update items https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-10-16 [22:03] * bryceh waves [22:04] Good morning all! [22:04] Hello, world!\n [22:06] I've some updates on gaming stuff [22:06] Oooh [22:06] the nvidia beta driver 310.14 was just released yesterday, is packaged and ready for sru review. Hoping to get that out today so we can demonstrate a swift packaging turnaround. [22:07] we're in process of establishing an fglrx-experimental-9 package. This is on Alberto's todo list and he has everything he needs. [22:08] I'm going to merge mesa9 into x-updates today, along with -ati and -nouveau (and maybe weston), once I've completed an input device script update for another project [22:09] apart from drivers, one of the other issues folks are worried about with gaming is performance with unity while full screen [22:09] Neil indicated there's several driver bugs which inhibit them from rolling out unity fixes, so I think those bugs are priorities for us [22:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu?field.tag=unredirect [22:10] mlankhorst, I assigned the nouveau bug on that list to you - hope you don't mind, and please let me know your thoughts once you've had a chance to look [22:11] the intel bug on that list I'll work on; sounds like it needs some git bisection to locate the patch(es), but I might ask Intel for help [22:11] really hard to get a hold of upstream though [22:11] I'm tempted to do some commit myself because maintainer doesn't respond :/ [22:11] mlankhorst, yes if you know how to fix it, please do [22:12] i mean on a patch that's not mine [22:12] You're welcome to fix in Ubuntu :) [22:12] there's an fglrx bug on that list which I guess we should reproduce and send to AMD. Not sure who to own that, but I may try reproducing it first [22:13] mlankhorst, right yeah, fixing in ubuntu for now and just notifying upstream of the issue and/or patch is definitely a-okay [22:13] the other bugs on that list appear to be compiz issues, so haven't looked at them. [22:15] well i have nouveau commit access [22:16] ill take a look tomorrow [22:17] ok thanks :-) [22:17] RAOF: is it your turn for reviewing SRUs? I need precise SRUs reviewed for NM [22:17] cyphermox: Indeed it is! [22:18] oh yay [22:18] RAOF: also, good morning/evening :) [22:18] What's cookin'? [22:18] (Or failing to cook, pending SRU acceptance ☺) [22:18] some less likely to be rejected fixes [22:18] ;) [22:18] Just network-manager 0.9.4.0-0ubuntu4.2? [22:18] yep [22:19] stuff to avoid unnecessary error messages, fixes for IPv6, etc. [22:35] cyphermox: Those SRU bugs are marvellously clear, thank you. [22:35] sweet, thanks for pointing it out [22:35] I have a hard time explaining things outside the problem domain sometimes :)