[04:47] <darkxst> jbicha, we are going to SRU gdm 3.6.1 right?
[04:49] <jbicha> yeah, but doing the SRU paperwork is a pain
[04:50] <darkxst> would it be easier to just backport the relevant patches?
[04:51] <jbicha> no, all SRUs need paperwork, I think 3.6.1 would be better
[04:51] <darkxst> oh... ray missed the autologin fixes ;(
[04:51] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[04:52] <darkxst> yeh I have seen that, but it seems more targeted at single bug fixes... rather than updates...
[04:53] <jbicha> you're welcome to ask seb128 about it when he signs on
[04:54] <darkxst> ok, happy to try and take care of it (not that I have done a SRU yet)
[04:55] <jbicha> I'm going to bed but we'd be happy to sponsor package updates for you
[05:15] <jbicha> darkxst: oh, wait I guess there is a standing exception again for GNOME point releases
[05:15] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions
[05:16] <jbicha> they still need tracking bugs but the paperwork should be easier
[05:17] <darkxst> jbicha, ok
[05:18] <darkxst> I will package it up later tonight
[10:07] <smartboyhw> everaldo, anxioiusly waiting for 12.10 Release of UGR eh?
[10:30] <everaldo> smartboyhw, well, a little
[10:30] <smartboyhw> :)
[10:30] <everaldo> smartboyhw, I am running 12.10 so for me it is ok
[10:30] <smartboyhw> :D
[10:30] <everaldo> but I want to see how it goes in the press
[10:30] <smartboyhw> everaldo, hopefully good:D
[10:31] <everaldo> btw, I am build a full article in portuguese with some screenshots
[10:31]  * smartboyhw is going to write in 2buntu.com again after it is final:D
[10:32] <everaldo> smartboyhw, nice
[10:32] <smartboyhw> everaldo, I keep writing about it:D Half of my posts are about it
[10:33] <everaldo> to be honest I am thinking about what we can do for 13.04
[10:34] <everaldo> just start to code in control-center, I hope found enougth time to integrate gnome-tweak-tool features in control-center
[10:34] <everaldo> two tools is too much :)
[10:34] <everaldo> smartboyhw, one question. What do you think about new Nautilus 3.6 ?
[10:35] <smartboyhw> everaldo, uh IDK
[10:38] <everaldo> IDK?
[10:38] <smartboyhw> I don't know;D
[10:38] <smartboyhw> :P
[10:39] <smartboyhw> everaldo, I think it is fine
[10:42] <everaldo> :)
[15:54] <everaldo> jbicha, I just build iso today (I do it every day) and it now have 950mb
[15:54] <everaldo> is it normal?
[15:55] <everaldo> the most notable change is squashfs that is now 910mb
[15:59] <jbicha> so how big was it yesterday? and what changed?
[16:00] <jbicha> did you use the latest from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/+junk/iso-build-script ?
[16:05] <everaldo> yes, yesterday it was 845
[16:05] <everaldo> and I am using last script
[16:05] <everaldo> I just create another empty folder now and start again
[16:05] <everaldo> to see if everything is ok
[16:05] <jbicha> did the apt archive get cleaned? is there anything in /var/cache/apt/archives/ or /archives/
[16:06] <everaldo> yes, theres lots of things in archives
[16:06] <jbicha> that's where the extra file size comes from
[16:06] <jbicha> (I mean in the build environment)
[16:07] <everaldo> I start a clean build again
[16:07] <everaldo> let us see if now it will be around 850mb
[17:22] <everaldo> jbicha, it is now 847mb
[17:22] <everaldo> so, it is ok
[17:23] <everaldo> looks like before build a new iso we need to always remove the work-amd64 and work-i386 folders
[17:36] <jbicha> oh yeah I always run ./livecd-script.sh clean i386 first
[19:16] <jbicha> darkxst: so we've got about an hour or so to do gdm 3.6.1 if we want to squeeze it in pre-release
[19:17] <jbicha> universe freeze is scheduled for 2100 utc
[19:33] <darkxst> jbicha, ok will do it now
[19:39] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm already on it, I wasn't sure if you'd be around
[19:39] <darkxst> jbicha, ah ok
[19:40] <jbicha> I grabbed your fix for bug 1055359 and I believe the gdmflexiserver fix is already included
[19:40] <darkxst> yeh also drop ubuntu_user_switching patch
[19:43] <darkxst> maybe also revert this http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?h=gnome-3-6&id=11be852c46877ba882ef9759a4fcdb437fcaca9d
[19:44] <darkxst> although I am not sure what will happen, we dont have the user for that, so it will just fail to some extent
[19:59] <jbicha> bummer, the system menu indicator is still rather unreliable with gdm but at least user switching sort of works
[20:00] <jbicha> darkxst: since we don't ship gnome-initial-setup, I think that change is harmless
[20:01] <darkxst> jbicha, well the fast user switching can't work (i.e. clicking usernames in menu)
[20:01] <darkxst> that would require re-porting an ubuntu patch from 3.0
[20:03] <jbicha> additionally, it seemed that while clicking Lock Screen worked the first time, trying to click Lock Screen again (or even Log Out or Suspend) didn't work
[20:04] <jbicha> the keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+L or Ctrl+Alt+Del) still worked
[20:06] <jbicha> also I had to reboot after upgrading gdm, I'm not sure why except that gdm is a bit unstable
[20:06] <jbicha> but I figure that's another reason why we want to get the update in now before release
[20:09] <darkxst> probably related to this Bug #1064354
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> erm, lightdm != gdm?
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> just saying ;P
[20:10] <darkxst> oops!
[20:13] <TheLordOfTime> if i remember how jbicha explained the gnome remix variant, it uses gdm in place of lightdm
[20:13] <TheLordOfTime> because of things.
[20:13] <TheLordOfTime> so unless the bug is part of the shell itself and is desktop environment/manager independent...
[20:13] <darkxst> gnome-shell provides the screensaver interface now
[20:14] <darkxst> but gnome-classic uses the old gnome-screensaver
[20:15] <TheLordOfTime> true, but my comment was specific to lightdm vs. gdm
[20:15] <TheLordOfTime> (that bug refers to lightdm)
[20:17] <darkxst> yeh I know, I posted the wrong bug....
[20:17] <TheLordOfTime> ;)
[20:18] <darkxst> indicator session must be getting stuch waiting for something
[20:18] <darkxst> lock does come up second time, after about 30secs
[20:19] <darkxst> i.e. 30secs after you click it
[20:21] <jbicha> oh, interesting, do you want to file the bug?
[20:21] <darkxst> jbicha, yeh will do
[20:50] <darkxst> not a gdm bug anyway, happens with lightdm as well
[20:51] <darkxst> even happens with lightdm and unity!
[21:12] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/1067515
[23:44] <darkxst> jbicha, I guess freeze is in place now? (might have a fix for the gmail issue)
[23:46] <jbicha> darkxst: yes, but SRUs are welcome :) (well technically the freeze email wasn't sent out but that's expected soon)
[23:54] <darkxst> jbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284144/ if you want to sneak it in