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l3onHi all!... I'm a member of ubuntu-it community council. We have some problem with old IRC logs for #ubuntu-it-meeting. We used logs.u-eu.o, that now seems to be down. The new website (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/) does not have old logs (2006-2007-...)... can you please tell me how we can get them ?10:22
IdleOne!logs10:24
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/10:24
IdleOnehttp://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/10:24
IdleOneah, you are right10:25
IdleOnel3on: give me a few minutes. I am trying to find out who you can email10:27
IdleOnehere we go, rt@ubuntu.com10:27
l3onIdleOne, for logs.u-eu.o is it a temporary issue ?10:27
IdleOneI assume it is a temporary issue10:28
l3onah ok!.. thanks!10:28
IdleOnel3on: you can also ask in #canonical-sysadmin10:30
Unit193But it isn't their server.10:32
IdleOneit isn't?10:34
Unit193logs.ubuntu-eu.org > gu.ubuntu-eu.org > 217.70.188.65 > xvm-188-65.ghst.net, though the DNS is.10:35
IdleOneanyway i sent an email to rt@ubuntu.com about it. ticket #2057410:35
IdleOneit'll probably be up soon10:35
IdleOneUnit193: you are right, canonical has nothing to do with that10:45
AlanBelll3on: it has been down for ages and ages, probably not coming back10:48
l3onsuch a bad news :/10:49
Tm_Tnooo10:49
Unit193Funny that ping and ssh work, this IP gone to someone else?10:50
IdleOneubuntu-eu.org loads the ubuntu-de.org site10:50
Tm_TEU politics much?10:52
Fuchsas far as I remember (parts of the ubuntuusers structure were there) more a technical thing10:53
AlanBellactually looks like the domain was registered by Canonical10:54
AlanBellprobably just part of the mass registration of loco domains (every iso code)10:54
IdleOne.de is not the centre of all things Europe!!!!10:55
IdleOneI am outraged10:55
Fuchsno, it isn't.10:55
IdleOneeh, not really.10:55
Fuchsbut as far as I remember things, the de server team was one of the few ones that worked10:55
IdleOneI'm just trying to stir the pot but don't really have the enthusiasm required.10:56
Fuchse.g. when we lost that French server for good ...10:56
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: around?16:03
AlanBellhi JoseeAntonioR16:05
AlanBellyes, now I expect you want to talk about openweek :)16:05
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: yep, and a cloak change16:05
* AlanBell checks calendar16:07
AlanBelllooks like I could do stuff on the thursday, but there are only friday slots remaining16:17
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: maybe I can talk and swap a session, if needed16:18
JoseeAntonioRwhich slot would you like?16:18
AlanBelloh, the ask Mark one obviously ;)16:19
AlanBellactually any of the Thursday ones will do16:19
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: let me ask the 16 or 17 slot if they're willing to do an on-air session16:20
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: and about the cloak update, I'd like to know if you could please approve @ubuntu/member/trekweb.joseeantonior16:26
JoseeAntonioRthe GC for trekweb agrees on it16:26
AlanBellyeah, I was going to ask the others about that, dual cloaks are not supposed to happen so much any more16:26
AlanBellwhat is trekweb? some starwars site?16:26
JoseeAntonioRlol, nope, its a ZNC provider16:27
AlanBellstartrek not starwars16:27
* AlanBell fails at being a real geek16:27
hallynhi - I've never asked for the ubuntu member irc cloak...  could i do so now?16:28
JoseeAntonioRhallyn: what's your LP ID?16:29
hallynhttps://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn16:29
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: I never watched Star Trek16:29
AlanBelllooks good hallyn16:29
AlanBellhallyn: you need to register with nickserv16:30
AlanBell!register16:30
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode16:30
hallynhm, thought iw as16:30
hallyntrying16:30
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: it's registered16:31
AlanBellthats better hallyn  :)16:31
AlanBellstaff can we have an ubuntu/member/hallyn cloak for hallyn please16:31
Myrttione moment please16:32
hallyn(i see - i think i hand't registed since starting back up :)16:32
AlanBellyay16:32
AlanBellhallyn: you are now cloaked, thanks Myrtti16:32
Myrttiyou're welcome, and congratulations on the membership16:33
hallynAlanBell: Myrtti: JoseeAntonioR: thanks!16:33
JoseeAntonioRhallyn: congrats on the membership :)16:33
hallynthx :)16:34
cprofittafternoon all16:35
cprofittcongrats hallyn16:36
JoseeAntonioRhey, cprofitt16:36
AlanBellJoseeAntonioR: I am kind of interested in doing an onair session about IRC16:40
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: then, should I grab a slot for you?16:40
AlanBellyeah, lets do that, I will try and rearrange when I am out16:40
AlanBellany of them is fine16:40
JoseeAntonioRAlanBell: ok, so 13 utc for you?16:42
AlanBellsure16:42
JoseeAntonioRadding you to the schedule16:42
AlanBellyay16:42
AlanBellJoseeAntonioR: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloakformat currently dual cloaks are strongly discouraged, but it isn't clear how strongly discouraged they are16:47
AlanBellI think we need to have a chat with the IRCC and other operators to find out if we can clarify that a bit and have some consistent rule about it16:48
JoseeAntonioRthey're applied at staff discretion and with the consent of both GCs and the user16:48
JoseeAntonioRwe can try16:48
notgaryHi there, I was wondering if anyone here could help me set up an Ubuntu Member cloak on my Freenode account. My Launchpad account can be found here: https://launchpad.net/~notgary19:00
IdleOnenotgary: hold tight and one of the IRCC will get to it soonish19:01
notgaryThanks :)19:01
Fuchs*mraw*19:02
* Fuchs gently pokes AlanBell :)19:09
JoseeAntonioRIRCC: ^19:09
JoseeAntonioRthey have set to highlight on IRCC19:09
Fuchsah, thanks, didn't know that yet :)19:10
Fuchsin this case they got highlighted twice now, so that should be more than sufficient :)19:10
IdleOnehighlighting the IRCC can be accomplished in two ways. 1) you type IRCC. 2) you type each IRCC members nick. ex: AlanBell Pici Tm_T funkyHat topyli19:13
* IdleOne tests19:14
IdleOneAlanBell Pici Tm_T funkyHat topyli you are needed for a membership cloak request.19:14
IdleOne:)19:14
Unit193I like the second, it for sure works.19:15
FuchsI might be wrong here, but I am not sure if they are that urgent to need 5 highlights ;)19:15
IdleOneagreed19:15
IdleOneFuchs: You make an excellent point19:15
IdleOnethere is a third method that would involve a long distance phone call to an former council member who would then have to call a current council member but I think that is a little extreme19:18
PiciFuchs: could you please setup notgary with an ubuntu/member/notgary cloak?19:20
Fuchssure :)19:20
Fuchsnotgary: you are now cloaked, congratulations to your membership :)19:20
Picigrats :)19:21
notgaryThanks a lot :)19:21
IdleOnecongrats19:22
IdleOnenotgary: now that you know how to highlight the IRCC you must stay and wait for your turn :)19:23
notgaryIRCC19:24
notgaryDid that work?19:24
IdleOneI'm sure it did19:24
Picinotgary: IdleOne is being silly19:24
IdleOnegood work :)19:24
IdleOnePici knows me well19:25
notgaryEvery day's a school day :)19:25
JoseeAntonioRno, no more school please!19:25
AlanBellgosh what a lot of hilights20:05
AlanBelland not one of them mentions chickens20:05
Myrttibwaakbwaak20:06
* Fuchs hands AlanBell a chicken20:06
AlanBell:)20:10
Fuchs<''320:10
Fuchsthere you go20:10
Fuchstake good care of it20:10
AlanBellI will put it in the run with the others20:11
ubot5In #ubuntu-discuss, TheLordOfTime said: !network-manager is <reply>networkmanager is an application that tries to make (wireless) networking "just work".  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager20:11
TheLordOfTimeyes, i know, i've proposed an edit, see the -discuss scrollbacks (includes rewording proposed by IdleOne)20:12
TheLordOfTimeits weird proposing something in $otherChannel and being pinged here coincidentally ;P20:12
TheLordOfTimeany IRCC person around, perhaps AlanBell21:30
TheLordOfTime?21:30
AlanBellnot for long21:31
TheLordOfTimeAlanBell, i'd like to get my cloak changed to just ubuntu/member/[NickServAccount]21:31
TheLordOfTimebut for that, i thin kyou'd need to poke staff21:31
TheLordOfTime(i already have an older secondary-cloak from membership)21:31
TheLordOfTime(the trekweb/ part is being dropped, and I"m the trekweb GC so there's no extra approval issues there)21:31
TheLordOfTimei think it'd just need someone from IRCC to approve and poke staffers about21:32
TheLordOfTimeLP ID is trekcaptainusa-tw (https://launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw) if you want to confirm21:32
AlanBellok, well that sounds fine as we are supposed to be cutting back on the dual cloaks21:33
TheLordOfTimejust need you to push the request to freenode :)21:33
Fuchsthis is FREENODE21:33
TheLordOfTimethey're quite... anal... about who requests primary cloak changes for an individual ;P21:33
Fuchsare we?21:33
AlanBellso that would be /ubuntu/member/lordoftime or LordOfTime I forget the capitalisation rules on it21:34
TheLordOfTimeFuchs, for primary cloaks?  last 50 i've seen, you require GCs to give the approval21:34
Fuchswe obviously need GCs request it, but I don't think that is "anal"21:34
TheLordOfTimeAlanBell, preferably LordOfTime, but i think they do lowercase so...21:34
TheLordOfTime*shrugs*21:34
FuchsAlanBell: for unaffiliated we go with lowercase, projects are free to define, imo mixed case looks ugly21:34
TheLordOfTimeoh, i know, FUCHS would know :P21:34
Fuchsyes, yes he would21:34
TheLordOfTimeAlanBell, its your call, mixed, or lowercase.  your call.21:34
* AlanBell agrees, lets go for lowercase21:34
TheLordOfTimethen ubuntu/member/lordoftime :)21:35
FuchsAlanBell: a ubuntu/member/lordoftime for TheLordOfTime, then?21:35
AlanBellyes, if you could do the honours Fuchs :)21:35
Fuchssure <321:35
FuchsTheLordOfTime / AlanBell: there we go21:35
TheLordOfTimethanks much Fuchs21:36
AlanBellthanks21:36
TheLordOfTimethanks AlanBell, i'll leave you to your busy schedule21:36
TheLordOfTime:)21:36
AlanBellnight all o/21:36
FuchsGood night AlanBell :)21:37
TheLordOfTimeFuchs, i may have used the wrong word there :)21:37
TheLordOfTimejust saying21:37
* TheLordOfTime returns to poking at php5 to make it submit to his will21:37
Fuchsmaybe a bit, yes :p21:37
Fuchsbut I am not really offended, I was joking. Also you are punished enough with php.21:38
TheLordOfTimetell me about it21:38
TheLordOfTimeless so with nginx, but php makes me seethe with the rage of a dev21:38
TheLordOfTime:P:21:38
TheLordOfTimeat least, with nginx, the SRUs go through ;P21:39
TheLordOfTime... which reminds me21:39
* TheLordOfTime disappears to go find a member of the uploads sponsors team21:40
notgaryIRCC: Would it be possible to create a new Ubuntu room called #ubuntu-papercuts? I'm currently reviving the Hundred Papercuts project and we could do with having out own chatroom rather than piggybacking on the Ayatana room.21:47

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