[10:22] <l3on> Hi all!... I'm a member of ubuntu-it community council. We have some problem with old IRC logs for #ubuntu-it-meeting. We used logs.u-eu.o, that now seems to be down. The new website (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/) does not have old logs (2006-2007-...)... can you please tell me how we can get them ?
[10:24] <IdleOne> !logs
[10:24] <IdleOne> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[10:25] <IdleOne> ah, you are right
[10:27] <IdleOne> l3on: give me a few minutes. I am trying to find out who you can email
[10:27] <IdleOne> here we go, rt@ubuntu.com
[10:27] <l3on> IdleOne, for logs.u-eu.o is it a temporary issue ?
[10:28] <IdleOne> I assume it is a temporary issue
[10:28] <l3on> ah ok!.. thanks!
[10:30] <IdleOne> l3on: you can also ask in #canonical-sysadmin
[10:32] <Unit193> But it isn't their server.
[10:34] <IdleOne> it isn't?
[10:35] <Unit193> logs.ubuntu-eu.org > gu.ubuntu-eu.org > 217.70.188.65 > xvm-188-65.ghst.net, though the DNS is.
[10:35] <IdleOne> anyway i sent an email to rt@ubuntu.com about it. ticket #20574
[10:35] <IdleOne> it'll probably be up soon
[10:45] <IdleOne> Unit193: you are right, canonical has nothing to do with that
[10:48] <AlanBell> l3on: it has been down for ages and ages, probably not coming back
[10:49] <l3on> such a bad news :/
[10:49] <Tm_T> nooo
[10:50] <Unit193> Funny that ping and ssh work, this IP gone to someone else?
[10:50] <IdleOne> ubuntu-eu.org loads the ubuntu-de.org site
[10:52] <Tm_T> EU politics much?
[10:53] <Fuchs> as far as I remember (parts of the ubuntuusers structure were there) more a technical thing
[10:54] <AlanBell> actually looks like the domain was registered by Canonical
[10:54] <AlanBell> probably just part of the mass registration of loco domains (every iso code)
[10:55] <IdleOne> .de is not the centre of all things Europe!!!!
[10:55] <IdleOne> I am outraged
[10:55] <Fuchs> no, it isn't.
[10:55] <IdleOne> eh, not really.
[10:55] <Fuchs> but as far as I remember things, the de server team was one of the few ones that worked
[10:56] <IdleOne> I'm just trying to stir the pot but don't really have the enthusiasm required.
[10:56] <Fuchs> e.g. when we lost that French server for good ...
[16:03] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: around?
[16:05] <AlanBell> hi JoseeAntonioR
[16:05] <AlanBell> yes, now I expect you want to talk about openweek :)
[16:05] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: yep, and a cloak change
[16:07]  * AlanBell checks calendar
[16:17] <AlanBell> looks like I could do stuff on the thursday, but there are only friday slots remaining
[16:18] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: maybe I can talk and swap a session, if needed
[16:18] <JoseeAntonioR> which slot would you like?
[16:19] <AlanBell> oh, the ask Mark one obviously ;)
[16:19] <AlanBell> actually any of the Thursday ones will do
[16:20] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: let me ask the 16 or 17 slot if they're willing to do an on-air session
[16:26] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: and about the cloak update, I'd like to know if you could please approve @ubuntu/member/trekweb.joseeantonior
[16:26] <JoseeAntonioR> the GC for trekweb agrees on it
[16:26] <AlanBell> yeah, I was going to ask the others about that, dual cloaks are not supposed to happen so much any more
[16:26] <AlanBell> what is trekweb? some starwars site?
[16:27] <JoseeAntonioR> lol, nope, its a ZNC provider
[16:27] <AlanBell> startrek not starwars
[16:27]  * AlanBell fails at being a real geek
[16:28] <hallyn> hi - I've never asked for the ubuntu member irc cloak...  could i do so now?
[16:29] <JoseeAntonioR> hallyn: what's your LP ID?
[16:29] <hallyn> https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn
[16:29] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: I never watched Star Trek
[16:29] <AlanBell> looks good hallyn
[16:30] <AlanBell> hallyn: you need to register with nickserv
[16:30] <AlanBell> !register
[16:30] <hallyn> hm, thought iw as
[16:30] <hallyn> trying
[16:31] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: it's registered
[16:31] <AlanBell> thats better hallyn  :)
[16:31] <AlanBell> staff can we have an ubuntu/member/hallyn cloak for hallyn please
[16:32] <Myrtti> one moment please
[16:32] <hallyn> (i see - i think i hand't registed since starting back up :)
[16:32] <AlanBell> yay
[16:32] <AlanBell> hallyn: you are now cloaked, thanks Myrtti
[16:33] <Myrtti> you're welcome, and congratulations on the membership
[16:33] <hallyn> AlanBell: Myrtti: JoseeAntonioR: thanks!
[16:33] <JoseeAntonioR> hallyn: congrats on the membership :)
[16:34] <hallyn> thx :)
[16:35] <cprofitt> afternoon all
[16:36] <cprofitt> congrats hallyn
[16:36] <JoseeAntonioR> hey, cprofitt
[16:40] <AlanBell> JoseeAntonioR: I am kind of interested in doing an onair session about IRC
[16:40] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: then, should I grab a slot for you?
[16:40] <AlanBell> yeah, lets do that, I will try and rearrange when I am out
[16:40] <AlanBell> any of them is fine
[16:42] <JoseeAntonioR> AlanBell: ok, so 13 utc for you?
[16:42] <AlanBell> sure
[16:42] <JoseeAntonioR> adding you to the schedule
[16:42] <AlanBell> yay
[16:47] <AlanBell> JoseeAntonioR: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloakformat currently dual cloaks are strongly discouraged, but it isn't clear how strongly discouraged they are
[16:48] <AlanBell> I think we need to have a chat with the IRCC and other operators to find out if we can clarify that a bit and have some consistent rule about it
[16:48] <JoseeAntonioR> they're applied at staff discretion and with the consent of both GCs and the user
[16:48] <JoseeAntonioR> we can try
[19:00] <notgary> Hi there, I was wondering if anyone here could help me set up an Ubuntu Member cloak on my Freenode account. My Launchpad account can be found here: https://launchpad.net/~notgary
[19:01] <IdleOne> notgary: hold tight and one of the IRCC will get to it soonish
[19:01] <notgary> Thanks :)
[19:02] <Fuchs> *mraw*
[19:09]  * Fuchs gently pokes AlanBell :)
[19:09] <JoseeAntonioR> IRCC: ^
[19:09] <JoseeAntonioR> they have set to highlight on IRCC
[19:10] <Fuchs> ah, thanks, didn't know that yet :)
[19:10] <Fuchs> in this case they got highlighted twice now, so that should be more than sufficient :)
[19:13] <IdleOne> highlighting the IRCC can be accomplished in two ways. 1) you type IRCC. 2) you type each IRCC members nick. ex: AlanBell Pici Tm_T funkyHat topyli
[19:14]  * IdleOne tests
[19:14] <IdleOne> AlanBell Pici Tm_T funkyHat topyli you are needed for a membership cloak request.
[19:14] <IdleOne> :)
[19:15] <Unit193> I like the second, it for sure works.
[19:15] <Fuchs> I might be wrong here, but I am not sure if they are that urgent to need 5 highlights ;)
[19:15] <IdleOne> agreed
[19:15] <IdleOne> Fuchs: You make an excellent point
[19:18] <IdleOne> there is a third method that would involve a long distance phone call to an former council member who would then have to call a current council member but I think that is a little extreme
[19:20] <Pici> Fuchs: could you please setup notgary with an ubuntu/member/notgary cloak?
[19:20] <Fuchs> sure :)
[19:20] <Fuchs> notgary: you are now cloaked, congratulations to your membership :)
[19:21] <Pici> grats :)
[19:21] <notgary> Thanks a lot :)
[19:22] <IdleOne> congrats
[19:23] <IdleOne> notgary: now that you know how to highlight the IRCC you must stay and wait for your turn :)
[19:24] <notgary> IRCC
[19:24] <notgary> Did that work?
[19:24] <IdleOne> I'm sure it did
[19:24] <Pici> notgary: IdleOne is being silly
[19:24] <IdleOne> good work :)
[19:25] <IdleOne> Pici knows me well
[19:25] <notgary> Every day's a school day :)
[19:25] <JoseeAntonioR> no, no more school please!
[20:05] <AlanBell> gosh what a lot of hilights
[20:05] <AlanBell> and not one of them mentions chickens
[20:06] <Myrtti> bwaakbwaak
[20:06]  * Fuchs hands AlanBell a chicken
[20:10] <AlanBell> :)
[20:10] <Fuchs> <''3
[20:10] <Fuchs> there you go
[20:10] <Fuchs> take good care of it
[20:11] <AlanBell> I will put it in the run with the others
[20:12] <TheLordOfTime> yes, i know, i've proposed an edit, see the -discuss scrollbacks (includes rewording proposed by IdleOne)
[20:12] <TheLordOfTime> its weird proposing something in $otherChannel and being pinged here coincidentally ;P
[21:30] <TheLordOfTime> any IRCC person around, perhaps AlanBell
[21:30] <TheLordOfTime> ?
[21:31] <AlanBell> not for long
[21:31] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, i'd like to get my cloak changed to just ubuntu/member/[NickServAccount]
[21:31] <TheLordOfTime> but for that, i thin kyou'd need to poke staff
[21:31] <TheLordOfTime> (i already have an older secondary-cloak from membership)
[21:31] <TheLordOfTime> (the trekweb/ part is being dropped, and I"m the trekweb GC so there's no extra approval issues there)
[21:32] <TheLordOfTime> i think it'd just need someone from IRCC to approve and poke staffers about
[21:32] <TheLordOfTime> LP ID is trekcaptainusa-tw (https://launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw) if you want to confirm
[21:33] <AlanBell> ok, well that sounds fine as we are supposed to be cutting back on the dual cloaks
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> just need you to push the request to freenode :)
[21:33] <Fuchs> this is FREENODE
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> they're quite... anal... about who requests primary cloak changes for an individual ;P
[21:33] <Fuchs> are we?
[21:34] <AlanBell> so that would be /ubuntu/member/lordoftime or LordOfTime I forget the capitalisation rules on it
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> Fuchs, for primary cloaks?  last 50 i've seen, you require GCs to give the approval
[21:34] <Fuchs> we obviously need GCs request it, but I don't think that is "anal"
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, preferably LordOfTime, but i think they do lowercase so...
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> *shrugs*
[21:34] <Fuchs> AlanBell: for unaffiliated we go with lowercase, projects are free to define, imo mixed case looks ugly
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> oh, i know, FUCHS would know :P
[21:34] <Fuchs> yes, yes he would
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, its your call, mixed, or lowercase.  your call.
[21:34]  * AlanBell agrees, lets go for lowercase
[21:35] <TheLordOfTime> then ubuntu/member/lordoftime :)
[21:35] <Fuchs> AlanBell: a ubuntu/member/lordoftime for TheLordOfTime, then?
[21:35] <AlanBell> yes, if you could do the honours Fuchs :)
[21:35] <Fuchs> sure <3
[21:35] <Fuchs> TheLordOfTime / AlanBell: there we go
[21:36] <TheLordOfTime> thanks much Fuchs
[21:36] <AlanBell> thanks
[21:36] <TheLordOfTime> thanks AlanBell, i'll leave you to your busy schedule
[21:36] <TheLordOfTime> :)
[21:36] <AlanBell> night all o/
[21:37] <Fuchs> Good night AlanBell :)
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> Fuchs, i may have used the wrong word there :)
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> just saying
[21:37]  * TheLordOfTime returns to poking at php5 to make it submit to his will
[21:37] <Fuchs> maybe a bit, yes :p
[21:38] <Fuchs> but I am not really offended, I was joking. Also you are punished enough with php.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> tell me about it
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> less so with nginx, but php makes me seethe with the rage of a dev
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> :P:
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> at least, with nginx, the SRUs go through ;P
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> ... which reminds me
[21:40]  * TheLordOfTime disappears to go find a member of the uploads sponsors team
[21:47] <notgary> IRCC: Would it be possible to create a new Ubuntu room called #ubuntu-papercuts? I'm currently reviving the Hundred Papercuts project and we could do with having out own chatroom rather than piggybacking on the Ayatana room.