[15:57] <jamespage> o/
[15:58] <adam_g_> o/
[15:58]  * smb waits 2
[15:59] <jamespage> adam_g, hows sd?
[15:59] <P05TMAN> Here for CoLoCo, albeit extremely early.
[16:00] <smb> \o
[16:01] <jamespage> OK - lets go then...
[16:01] <jamespage> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 16 16:01:08 2012 UTC.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:01] <jamespage> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01]  * jamespage gets ready to whip himself
[16:01] <jamespage> jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:01] <jamespage> still not done; will get that sorted for next cycle (promise)
[16:02] <jamespage> #action jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:02] <jamespage> jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:02] <jamespage> again not completed = c/f
[16:02] <jamespage> #action jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:02] <jamespage> ...
[16:02] <jamespage> #topic Quantal Development
[16:02] <jamespage> hopefully not much of that going on now.
[16:03] <jamespage> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:03] <jamespage> looking goog
[16:03] <jamespage> good even
[16:03] <jamespage> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:03] <jamespage> a few outstanding - one of which I think is resolved but that needs confirmation
[16:04] <jamespage> the samba printing bug is still proving hard to reproduce.
[16:04] <jamespage> ...
[16:04] <jamespage> onto blueprints
[16:04] <jamespage> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html
[16:04] <jamespage> Not going to review individual BP's; but suffice to say POSTPONED is appropriate now...
[16:05] <jamespage> some WI's may carry over to next release - please do so
[16:05] <jamespage> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:06] <jamespage> openstack design summit is currently underway - lots of representation from Ubuntu Server Team
[16:06] <jamespage> Ubuntu Dev Summit in 1.5 weeks time - don't miss it
[16:06] <jamespage> anything from anyone else?
[16:07] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:07] <jamespage> hggdh: around?
[16:07] <jamespage> nope - ok moving on
[16:07] <arosales> Hello, sorry I am late
[16:07] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:07] <smb> uh
[16:07] <jamespage> hey arosales - could be the quickest meeting on record!
[16:07] <smb> Not really much (or anything) to mention
[16:07] <smb> ..
[16:08] <jamespage> smb, actually bug 1054129
[16:08] <jamespage> is that the same issue that you where looking at with the cirrus driver in KVM?
[16:08]  * smb shrugs
[16:08] <smb> I would first need to read the bug report
[16:08] <hallyn> think it was taken care of by removing a cirrus driver from kernel?
[16:08] <smb> hallyn, yes for now
[16:09] <smb> Will re-appear in R to hopefully sort things
[16:09] <jamespage> hallyn, I think we can close that bug for the time being them - I can't reproduce....
[16:09] <jamespage> and that would explain why...
[16:09] <jamespage> go-oh
[16:09] <hallyn> "doctor, it hurts when".... "then remove the driver"
[16:10] <jamespage> lol
[16:10] <jamespage> ...
[16:10] <jamespage> next...
[16:10] <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:10] <jamespage> anything rbasak?
[16:10] <rbasak> Nothing to report. It's looking good for release!
[16:10] <jamespage> excellent
[16:10] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:11] <jamespage> sounds like no
[16:11] <jamespage> #topic Open Discussion
[16:11] <jamespage> anyone have anything to raise?
[16:11] <arosales> \o
[16:11] <jamespage> arosales, go for it
[16:12] <arosales> jamespage:  did you cover https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server?searchtext=servercloud+q delivery status?
[16:12]  * arosales apologizes again for being late
[16:12] <arosales> ie we have some BP with non-closed/done "Delivery" states
[16:12] <jamespage> not specifically but general director was complete blueprints and carry over any relevant work items
[16:13] <arosales> jamespage could we step through the BP with non done delivery, ie Beta Available, Informational or Deferred states.
[16:13] <arosales> with the folks that are here
[16:13] <arosales> rbasak: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-deployment
[16:14] <arosales> Delivery = Good progress
[16:14] <rbasak> One to postpone, and the other is done. I'll amend now.
[16:14] <arosales> m_3: how do you feel about [mark-mims] Charm testing on ARM (emulation only): TODO
[16:15]  * rbasak just postponed that
[16:15] <arosales> rbasak: m_3: did you guys get an opportunity to test ARM on MAAS?
[16:16] <rbasak> AIUI, it's pending some more work on m_3 on the charm side of things
[16:16] <rbasak> I haven't fully synced with m_3 yet
[16:16] <arosales> ok perhaps m_3 can chime in
[16:16] <arosales> jamespage: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:16] <arosales> most of those are for Ursinha
[16:16] <arosales> do we want to postpone those?
[16:16] <jamespage> I've deffered the BP generally
[16:17] <jamespage> done
[16:17] <arosales> jamespage; thanks
[16:17] <arosales> m_3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:17] <arosales> or jimbaker^
[16:18] <jimbaker> arosales, that's currently making good progress
[16:18] <arosales> jimbaker: feel wi should be done before end of week?
[16:19] <m_3> unit tests we should close out
[16:19] <arosales> run charmtester against maas environment: TODO
[16:19] <arosales> m_3: this should also help with the earlier question in regards to ARM deployment
[16:19] <m_3> there're a couple that're inprogress, but they're not tied to a cycle... I'm thinking we postpone then in that blueprint
[16:20] <m_3> yeah, it's the same work-item
[16:20] <arosales> ok, I'll mark the BP as "Beta  Available"
[16:20] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-release-process is for spamaps
[16:21] <arosales> just one wi there create spec to allow charms to depend on juju versions: INPROGRESS
[16:21] <arosales> skipping https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-armnt
[16:22] <arosales> jamespage: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bigdata-hadoop
[16:22] <jamespage> arosales, I deferred that blueprint
[16:22] <arosales> sorry that is deferred
[16:22] <arosales> :-)
[16:22] <jamespage> (only just :-))
[16:22] <arosales> m_3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
[16:23] <arosales> looks mostly done
[16:23] <arosales> jcastro [jorge] Choose a single place for presenting flagbearer charms (charm browser?): TODO
[16:23] <m_3> thought it was... looking
[16:24] <arosales> I'll sync up with jcastro on his remaining work items and them move delivery to "implemented"
[16:24] <arosales> rbasak: may want to sync up with craig on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance
[16:25] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-awstools looks mostly done. I'll sync up with utlemming on remaining wi
[16:26] <arosales> jamespage: ok that covers the BPs with non done "Delivery" status
[16:26] <arosales> jamespage:  back to you, thanks for letting me interject
[16:26] <jamespage> arosales, ack - thanks for that
[16:26] <jamespage> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:26] <jamespage> October 23rd at 1600 GMT
[16:26] <jamespage> right here.
[16:26] <jamespage> #endmeeting
[16:27] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 16 16:26:59 2012 UTC.
[16:27] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-16-16.01.moin.txt
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[16:27] <jamespage> thanks everyone - sparse today due to ODS...
[16:27] <arosales> jamespage: thanks for chair'ing
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 16 17:00:07 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <arges> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> Nothing new this week.
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> With 12.10 scheduled to release this Thurs Oct 18, we do not foresee any
[17:01] <ogasawara> critical kernel bugs which would warrant an upload and require a respin
[17:01] <ogasawara> of images.  All patches currently queued will be available in the first
[17:01] <ogasawara> kernel SRU following 12.10's release.  Some of these queued patches
[17:01] <ogasawara> include the v3.5.6 and v3.5.7 upstream stable patch sets as well as
[17:01] <ogasawara> additional misc bug fixes.
[17:01] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 18 - 12.10 Final (2 days!)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * UDS-R - Oct 29 - Nov 1
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:02] <sconklin> == 2012-10-16 (weekly) ==
[17:02] <sconklin> Currently we have 36 CVEs on our radar, with 1 CVE added and 1 CVE retired this week.
[17:02] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:02] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:02] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (October 16):
[17:02] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:02] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Preparation; 0 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (156 commits)
[17:02] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Preparation; 0 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (156 commits)
[17:02] <henrix>  * Precise - In Preparation; 0 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (115 commits)
[17:02] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:02] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:02] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:02] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:02] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:02] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:03] <henrix> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Should we still have a meeting next week, since UDS is fast approaching?
[17:04] <ogasawara> I vote to skip this meeting till after UDS.
[17:04] <rtg> jsalisbury, no reason not to. I'd cancel the one right after UDS
[17:04] <rtg> jsalisbury, do what the boss says
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ack
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Anything else?
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 16 17:05:28 2012 UTC.
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[17:19] <uros1>  
[19:50] <joey> FunnyLookinHat: me
[19:50] <FunnyLookinHat> joey, shoot
[19:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Did I miss it ?
[19:50] <joey> 10 mins I think
[19:50] <joey> if the email was correct
[19:50] <FunnyLookinHat> oh
[19:51] <FunnyLookinHat> If my GMT conversion was correct....
[19:51] <Garheade> Right
[19:51] <FunnyLookinHat> I hate daylight savings.
[19:51] <joey> same here
[19:51] <joey> ah there's P05TMAN
[19:52] <P05TMAN> Here as a member of CoLoCo
[19:52] <joey> and mfisch
[19:52] <mfisch> also CoLoCo
[19:52] <joey> kweinert: ping
[19:52] <effiejayx> hey all
[19:52] <joey> nealmcb: ping
[19:52] <joey> Hey Effie
[19:52] <P05TMAN> Yeah, had dental surgery. I guess android boots you out after a period of inactivity
[19:53] <joey> there's stokes91
[19:53] <stokes91> o/
[19:53] <FunnyLookinHat> Rad.
[19:55]  * joey joey and mfisch are poking the others.
[19:55] <joey>  /me fail
[19:55] <joey> there's ToyKeeper
[19:55] <joey> maybe lamont will wake up
[19:56] <joey> who is running this show anyway? I need to get back to work :-D
[19:56] <nealmcb> joey: Hey - fancy meeting you here!
[19:56] <joey> nealmcb: I dress up for special occasions :-)
[19:56] <P05TMAN> Stokes91 I believe is our official leader of the CoLoCo....
[19:56] <stokes91> Hellos!
[19:57]  * Garheade Coloco
[19:57] <joey> hey stokes91 and Garheade
[19:57] <nealmcb> Nice turnout, gang!
[19:58] <kweinert> Hi all.
[19:58] <joey> I don't see anything on the calendar for this ... are we where we should be?
[19:58] <Garheade> Joey: Yes
[19:58] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:59] <joey> hey laura!
[19:59] <czajkowski> itnet7: effiejayx huats ping
[19:59] <joey> ok I feel better now :-)
[19:59] <effiejayx> :)
[19:59] <effiejayx> here czajkowski
[19:59] <czajkowski> ok
[19:59] <czajkowski> #startmeeting
[19:59] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 16 19:59:43 2012 UTC.  The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:59] <huats> I am here :)
[20:00] <joey> me
[20:00] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[20:00] <stokes91> o/
[20:00] <czajkowski> firstly welcome to our loco council we've had a bit of a reshuffle
[20:00] <czajkowski> so effiejayx welcome aboard
[20:00] <czajkowski> we have aplogies from coolbhavi
[20:00] <effiejayx> thanks :)
[20:01] <czajkowski> toros: ping
[20:01] <toros> czajkowski: we are here
[20:01] <toros> hello
[20:01] <ulysses> o/
[20:01] <czajkowski> #topic Hungarian Loco Re approval
[20:01] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HungarianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:02] <czajkowski> toros: so thanks for coming to the meeting
[20:02] <czajkowski> how is the loco doing?
[20:02] <toros> pretty well... we are preparing for the new release
[20:02] <lamont> joey: meh
[20:03] <czajkowski> nods
[20:03] <czajkowski> nice wiki page
[20:03] <toros> thank you
[20:03] <ttbro1> toros: I have to say that the wiki page is very impressive :)
[20:03] <czajkowski> so how has your team grown over the last 2 years?
[20:04] <toros> we have many new users on our site... as far as I remember, we had somewhere around 18000 in 2010
[20:04] <toros> right now we have 26000 registered users
[20:04] <toros> we have some new activists
[20:04] <toros> I hope some of them will become Ubuntu member sooner or later
[20:04] <ttbro1> wow, that a lot O.o
[20:04] <huats> :)
[20:05] <huats> great !
[20:05] <czajkowski> impressive list http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-hu/events/history
[20:05] <itnet7> I really thought you did well on your teams Wiki, good work on the Team Reports too!
[20:05] <effiejayx> toros, you seem to participate in many projects to foster free software in eduation and public sector, do you colaborate with other COmunity Projects_
[20:05] <effiejayx> ?
[20:05] <toros> effiejayx: yes.
[20:06] <effiejayx> toros, could you elaborate on your experience sharing, who have you shared with?
[20:06] <toros> we collaborate with the FSF.hu foundation
[20:06] <toros> and sometimes also with other small communities
[20:06] <huats> Have you been able to use the UDS to improve your loco participation ?
[20:07] <effiejayx> toros, any colaborative work with debian folks?
[20:07] <toros> huats: not really, but it was a great experience for us
[20:07] <czajkowski> if any other members of the loco want to add stuff please feel free to chat also
[20:07] <toros> effiejayx: no, there isn't really an active debian community in Hungary
[20:07] <czajkowski> I see on your road map you've a plan to do: We are going to update our Ubuntu version for the secondary school leaving exam based on Ubuntu 13.04.  Can you tell us some more about this
[20:07] <czajkowski> as that seems a rather large task
[20:07] <toros> there are many Debian users, but they aren't really active locally
[20:08] <effiejayx> toros, ohhh how strange.
[20:08] <hajni> czajkowski, i am responsible for that project - we have a special version of ubuntu adjusted to the needs of the hungarian ICT secondary school leaving examination
[20:09] <czajkowski> hajni: oh can you tell us about that
[20:09] <czajkowski> I'm sure a lot of locos would be intersted in hearing about this
[20:09] <ttbro1> yes please
[20:09] <hajni> czajkowski, we would like to promote students to take that exam on ubuntu instead of windows
[20:10] <czajkowski> do you have to work with the schools or goverment with this?
[20:10] <hajni> the first step is to make the software environment officially accepted by the hungarian office of education
[20:11] <hajni> it was a rather long process, but we managed to deal with the administrative difficulties
[20:12] <itnet7> Good work on that hajni !
[20:12] <czajkowski> hajni: please do post this to the loco contacts list
[20:12] <czajkowski> it would be great to hear about this kinda project
[20:12] <effiejayx> that's great hajni
[20:12] <czajkowski> ok any other comments before we go to a vote
[20:12] <huats> ready to vote
[20:12] <effiejayx> ready
[20:12] <hajni> czajkowski, ok, sure
[20:12] <czajkowski> #voters effiejayx itnet7 huats czajkowski
[20:12] <meetingology> Current voters: czajkowski effiejayx huats itnet7
[20:12] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the Hungarian loco reapproval
[20:12] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the Hungarian loco reapproval
[20:12] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:12] <itnet7> +1
[20:12] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:12] <huats> +1
[20:12] <effiejayx> +1
[20:12] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:12] <meetingology> +1 received from effiejayx
[20:12] <czajkowski> +1 fantasic work
[20:12] <meetingology> +1 fantasic work received from czajkowski
[20:13] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:13] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the Hungarian loco reapproval
[20:13] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:13] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:13] <nealmcb> hajni: I'd also love to hear more about the exam work you're doing.  what does the exam itself cover?
[20:13] <toros> thank you!
[20:13] <huats> keep doing that way !
[20:13] <czajkowski> #action czajkowski update LP with team
[20:13] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski update LP with team
[20:13] <ulysses> thank you
[20:13] <itnet7> Very good job Ubuntu-Hu!!
[20:13] <nealmcb> Congrats!
[20:13] <hajni> thank you
[20:13] <P05TMAN> Woot-woot
[20:13] <effiejayx> congratulations ubuntu hungary LoCo Team,
[20:13] <Garheade> Congrats
[20:13] <czajkowski> #topic Colorado LoCo reapprocal
[20:14] <ttbro1> Congrats to Ubuntu-hu, they done a great job :)
[20:14] <czajkowski> stokes91: welcome aboard
[20:14] <stokes91> Hello!
[20:14] <stokes91> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColoradoTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:15] <czajkowski> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColoradoTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[20:15] <czajkowski> sorry dropped off there
[20:15] <czajkowski> stokes91: so how is the locoo doing ?
[20:15] <ttbro1> I have to admit, that is a small membership base :/
[20:16] <stokes91> Well, I have really just begun myself
[20:16] <stokes91> From the people I have met, we are excited to ramp up involvement
[20:16] <Garheade> He's doing a fine job.
[20:16] <P05TMAN> Second that
[20:17] <nealmcb> Indeed!
[20:17] <czajkowski> well anyone can talk in here so if others from the team want to voice stuff please do
[20:17] <FunnyLookinHat> Just an FYI - I was the previous team lead and I handed off a transition to stokes91 about 1 month ago.
[20:17] <czajkowski> nods
[20:17] <FunnyLookinHat> Since stokes91 has taken over, he's been pretty busy planning informal get-togethers, getting ready for the release party, and trying to brainstorm ( on his own and amongst other team members ) for ideas to increase LoCo activity.
[20:17] <czajkowski> FunnyLookinHat: so how have the previous 2 years been ?
[20:18] <FunnyLookinHat> czajkowski, Slow and steady.
[20:18] <FunnyLookinHat> We've tried a few different things besides the usual release parties, and had mixed results.
[20:18] <stokes91> My first meetin with the group was at the Ubuntu Hour at the Falling Rock, and I met a number of the acive members here.
[20:18] <czajkowski> I don't see many events on http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/coloradoteam/events/history  do you guys have them listed elsewhere?
[20:18] <FunnyLookinHat> So we're going to just keep tweaking the formula to see "what works" in Colorado.
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> czajkowski, We informally partner with a few local meetups that bulk up our activity
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> This is the most popular one: http://www.meetup.com/The-Denver-Boulder-Linux-Meetup-Group/
[20:19] <mfisch> the size of the state makes it a bit difficult to attend events regularly for some people
[20:19] <stokes91> FRom the feedback I have received from active members and less-active but interested people, my plan is to have many more smaller meetups with diversified topics to interest larger numbers of small groups.
[20:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Kevin organizes that meetup and generally works closely with the LoCo when he needs more Ubuntu related content.
[20:19] <czajkowski> stokes91: nice idea
[20:19] <czajkowski> that does help
[20:20] <czajkowski> and every loco is so different the one plan for all doesn't work so you need to find something that works for your team
[20:20] <stokes91> Of course in tandem with what we have established already works [;
[20:20] <ttbro1> that will help indeed stokes 91
[20:20] <stokes91> Thx!
[20:20] <czajkowski> nods
[20:21] <czajkowski> sounds like a plan
[20:21] <jimbaker> this partnership sounds like a good idea. for example, i just presented juju to the boulder linux user group. there was some overlap in members attending from the ubuntu loco. likely we could have increased that with better coordination
[20:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Ultimately - the biggest thing the LoCo needs is a new leader who has much more free time - and that just happens to be stokes91   :)
[20:21] <nealmcb> One of the bigger outreach activies we've done over the years is not listed as an event, but is noted on the reapplicaion page.  Jim Hutchinson has led our participation in the local Colorado Technology in Education meeting.  Too bad Jim isn't here to update on the 2011 event.
[20:21] <FunnyLookinHat> jimbaker, +1
[20:21] <ttbro1> stokes91: your welcome and I wish all the best in the vote :)
[20:21] <czajkowski> nods
[20:22] <czajkowski> FunnyLookinHat: yes that also helps and youv'e done a great job keeping the team going till someone else could take the torch from you
[20:22] <effiejayx> well I see some good spirits to make this team rock harder that it does now
[20:22] <nealmcb> We also distribute CDs to other groups like the Boulder Linux User Group and the DevOps group
[20:22] <czajkowski> nealmcb: great
[20:22] <czajkowski> nealmcb: random I know, but how do you distribute them
[20:22] <nealmcb> And Jim Baker just gave a juju talk for the BLUG
[20:23] <czajkowski> I'm always curious on how teams do that
[20:23] <joey> stokes91: can you take an action to get in touch with Jim H to see if there's another TIE event for this year?
[20:23] <joey> stokes91: via the email list should be good. That's always been a very worthwhile event.
[20:23] <stokes91> Absolutely.
[20:24] <joey> Thanks stokes91
[20:24] <nealmcb> The BLUG has a raffle at the end of each meeting, and/or we just hand out to those that are interested
[20:24] <czajkowski> ok any other comments before we vote folks?
[20:24] <effiejayx> FunnyLookinHat, I believe The Colorado US team should document this things a bit better.
[20:24] <FunnyLookinHat> effiejayx, totally agree, we'll make that a point for the next two years
[20:25] <P05TMAN> I'd be happy to assist in documentation.
[20:25] <czajkowski> #vote please vote on the reapproval of the Colorado loco
[20:25] <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the reapproval of the Colorado loco
[20:25] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:25] <Garheade> effie: I think several of use have noticed the need for better documentation
[20:25]  * med_ votes for
[20:25] <ttbro1> +0
[20:25] <effiejayx> also to be honest, the work the team has done is good, but it needs to be more constant and also published somewere of other locos to see
[20:25] <med_> +1
[20:25] <Garheade> +1
[20:25] <czajkowski> med_: only council can vote
[20:25] <mfisch> good try med_! ;)
[20:26]  * med_ was in another meeting....
[20:26] <kweinert> +1
[20:26] <itnet7> +0 I like the direction your going, but I think the team does need a little time
[20:26] <meetingology> +0 I like the direction your going, but I think the team does need a little time received from itnet7
[20:26] <itnet7> to get back up to speed
[20:26] <czajkowski> +0 I'm just not seeing activity and I'd love you guys to come back in 6+ months with more stuff documnted.
[20:26] <meetingology> +0 I'm just not seeing activity and I'd love you guys to come back in 6+ months with more stuff documnted. received from czajkowski
[20:26] <kweinert> (sorry)
[20:26] <czajkowski> huats: effiejayx
[20:27] <effiejayx> +0 It has a group of people willing to make magic happen
[20:27] <meetingology> +0 It has a group of people willing to make magic happen received from effiejayx
[20:27]  * czajkowski prods huats 
[20:28] <huats> +0
[20:28] <meetingology> +0 received from huats
[20:28] <czajkowski> #endvote
[20:28] <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the reapproval of the Colorado loco
[20:28] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4
[20:28] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:28] <joey> I think the good news is that the colorado loco has a lot of folks here for this meeting. That should demonstrate that the group is alive. :-)
[20:28] <czajkowski> joey: exactly
[20:28] <stokes91> Okay, cool. What does this mean we need to do in the mean time?
[20:28] <nealmcb> Are there any models from other big sparse US states you could point us to for ideas?
[20:28] <joey> stokes91: that means we have 6 months to put on a good showing and come back
[20:28] <czajkowski> stokes91: so it means keep up the actiity and good work you're doing
[20:28] <effiejayx> joey,  alive and kicking indeed, We hope to see you next cycle
[20:29] <czajkowski> but we;d love to have you back in a few months when more stuff has been done or documetned
[20:29] <stokes91> Okay cool beans!
[20:29] <effiejayx> I can follow up on your work if needed
[20:29] <nealmcb> So we remain an active team, but for a more limited time?
[20:29] <czajkowski> nealmcb: the Florida loco does amazing work
[20:29] <itnet7> If the team keeps up the momentum, I don't think you'll have any problems when you return and apply
[20:29] <czajkowski> nealmcb: itnet7 is your man
[20:29] <huats> it is clearly a way to tell you : we have seen your efforts, but we would like you to continue that way in the next months !
[20:29] <stokes91> We can do it.
[20:29] <med_> indeed we can.
[20:29] <joey> stokes91: and here's the public apology for being so tied up at work that I'm not able to really help. :-(
[20:29] <nealmcb> :)
[20:29] <czajkowski> stokes91: you can always email the loco coucnil for ideas or help we're here to help you
[20:29] <jimbaker> cool :)
[20:29] <itnet7> nealmcb and stokes91 you can ping me anytime
[20:29] <ttbro1> stoke 91: I'm sorry that you lose but I do wish you guys all the best in the future :)
[20:29] <czajkowski> so what this means to the team is it will naturally expire from the approved locoteams on the 22th of this month
[20:30] <czajkowski> but we do want to see you guys back
[20:30] <stokes91> Sounds good, I am definitely not chalking this up as a loss,
[20:30] <nealmcb> Oh dear....
[20:30] <czajkowski> stokes91: nop please dont take that away from this meeting
[20:30] <joey> Some trivia: Colorado was the first US State loco team approved and the 2nd US Loco team approved (the first one was a city)
[20:30] <effiejayx> stokes91,  thank you for stepping up for LoCo Contact and please do ask any questions you may have
[20:30] <stokes91> Absolutely.
[20:31] <czajkowski> #endmeeting
[20:31] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 16 20:31:03 2012 UTC.
[20:31] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-16-19.59.moin.txt
[20:31] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-10-16-19.59.html
[20:31] <P05TMAN> From weaknesses comes great power and motivation. 6 months &  we'll be back in it
[20:31] <itnet7> P05TMAN: no doubt!!
[20:32] <itnet7> bbl