[05:23] <tjaalton> RAOF: yo, could you accept -wacom for precise-proposed, bug 1038615
[05:36] <RAOF> tjaalton: Most assuredly!
[05:37] <tjaalton> gracias!
[05:48] <RAOF> tjaalton: That's a really bad SRU request, you know ☺
[05:50] <tjaalton> is it?
[05:52] <tjaalton> maybe a bit terse
[05:52] <RAOF> Yeah - it doesn't have a clearly written test case, and there certainly isn't *no* regression potential.
[05:55] <tjaalton> oh test case
[05:55] <tjaalton> I can add those
[05:55] <tjaalton> also, seems that powering down my monitor crashed i915, nice
[05:57] <RAOF> Woot!
[05:58] <tjaalton> on precise though, so too old to care
[05:58] <RAOF> I've accepted xf86-input-wacom by the way.  I'm just commenting that the SRU bug is a little bite too far on the terse side :)
[05:58] <tjaalton> yeah
[05:58] <tjaalton> thanks
[06:01] <tjaalton> updated
[06:40] <jibel> anyone could look at bug 1066883 and bug 1066228 and give an opinion. They appeared recently and it's really worrying as the release is in 2 days
[06:41] <jibel> someone in the qa team has a mac mini with an intel card on which he can reproduce reliably, if you need more info
[06:53] <tjaalton> jibel: sounds like a race in plymouth vs. xserver
[06:56] <jibel> tjaalton, any idea to investigate it further ? 
[07:04] <tjaalton> jibel: not sure, aiui it's been there for a long time
[07:11] <jibel> hm, the mac mini worked nicely until recent release candidates. 
[07:12] <tjaalton> so you have one?
[07:12] <tjaalton> try an older quantal kernel
[07:13] <jibel> tjaalton, yes, someone in my team have one and can do some testing.
[07:13] <jibel> tjaalton, I'll ask him to find the last known good image and to diff the manifests
[07:13] <tjaalton> so there should be an older kernel still available, try to bisect if it was some change there
[07:14] <tjaalton> bisect as in testing the kernel packages
[07:14] <tjaalton> jibel: um, unless it has been reinstalled with the rc there's no need to do that
[07:14] <tjaalton> or just install a mainline 3.5.x
[07:15] <jibel> tjaalton, ok
[07:17] <tjaalton> the current one is based on 3.5.5
[07:18] <tjaalton> so maybe try a mainline 3.5.5 and if able to reproduce with it, go back with 3.5.4 etc
[11:29] <dholbach> heya
[11:29] <dholbach> did anyone see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/1048142 and has an opinion about it?
[11:32] <tjaalton> tseliot: ^
[11:45] <tseliot> dholbach: yes, I think I've fixed that in quantal
[11:47] <dholbach> tseliot, ah, so it can be closed?
[11:47] <tjaalton> it was filed on precise though
[11:47] <tseliot> dholbach: we should add a task for precise
[11:48] <dholbach> aha
[11:48] <dholbach> tseliot, perfect - will you take care of it?
[11:48] <tseliot> dholbach: sure
[11:49] <dholbach> tseliot, grazie mille
[11:49] <tseliot> dholbach: di niente ;)
[12:17] <mlankhorst> RAOF: is it too early to SRU something for xxv nouveau yet on quantal?
[12:18] <tjaalton> nope
[12:18] <tjaalton> just target -proposed
[12:18] <tjaalton> zero-day updates is nothing unheard of
[12:18] <mlankhorst> I'm hoping for some other patch first so I can sru both
[12:23] <mlankhorst> "[Nouveau] [PATCH] dri2: Fix potential race and crash for swap at next vblank."
[14:07] <seb128> bryceh, mlankhorst, RAOF: hey, #ubuntu-release pinged us about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1066883
[14:07] <seb128> could one of you have a look and try to figure if that's an xorg or kernel issue?
[14:09] <tjaalton> jibel asked about it earlier
[14:11] <mlankhorst> definitely interesting what is going on there though..
[14:13] <seb128> tjaalton, and what was the outcome?
[14:14] <mlankhorst> race between plymouth and x server
[14:15] <psivaa> seb128: mlankhorst. the issue is not occurring when i tried with an older image 20120724.2  (alpha 3)
[14:16] <seb128> mlankhorst, hum, and any clue on how to address that race?
[14:16] <psivaa> the login screen comes up even when the latest kernel (3.5.0.17 ) was installed on that old image
[14:19] <tjaalton> ss
[14:24] <tjaalton> psivaa: that's an ancient image, not really helpful to know it worked
[14:30] <psivaa> tjaalton: ok, bug 1066228 was reported on 20120905.2, so i tested with older than that.
[14:31] <psivaa> well this was the original image and the bug was reported on 13/10 after upgrade, i have 20121018.1 and ill try with that now
[14:31] <tjaalton> if 20120905 means the date, then there's more than a month between the image and the bug?
[14:32] <tjaalton> I'm confused, was 20120905 a working one or not?
[14:32] <psivaa> fresh install with 20120905 works
[14:32] <tjaalton> ok
[14:32] <tjaalton> no need to test older ones then
[14:34] <psivaa> im sorry it did *not* work with 20120905 according to bug 1066228
[14:34] <tjaalton> did you file that bug?
[14:34] <psivaa> no
[14:35] <tjaalton> ok so your bug was another one, got it
[14:35] <tjaalton> if you can narrow it down further then
[14:36] <tjaalton> would be cool
[14:36] <psivaa> im installing with 20121018.1 and let you know
[14:36] <tjaalton> ok
[15:29] <psivaa> tjaalton: it works ok with 20121001 but fails on 20121011
[15:30] <psivaa> i am getting 20121005 now to try, do you want me to try anyother image between 1001 and 1011?
[15:31] <tjaalton> psivaa: i guess that should be enough
[15:31] <tjaalton> or maybe just upgrade select packages from the working one to see where it breaks
[15:32] <psivaa> tjaalton: ok, ill do that thanks
[15:32] <tjaalton> -intel was uploaded on sep 29th
[15:34] <tjaalton> no big changes to the xserver either
[15:35] <tjaalton> try updating the kernel then
[15:35] <tjaalton> pretty sure the issue is there
[16:06] <psivaa> tjaalton: i have tried rebooting about 10 times after kernel upgrade to 3.5.0.17 to the working image (20121001) the issue is not reproduced
[16:07] <psivaa> tjaalton: if you want any other pkg to be upgraded, i could try that
[16:18] <Sarvatt> psivaa: it'd be worth trying to update xserver-xorg-core just in case
[16:18] <psivaa> Sarvatt: ok thanks, trying that
[16:29] <psivaa> Sarvatt: updating xserver-xorg-core does not break either
[16:29] <bryceh> morning
[16:29] <mlankhorst> morning
[16:52] <tjaalton> psivaa: try xserver-xorg-video-intel next
[16:57] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: is the backport stack installable again?
[16:57] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: not yet unless mvo fixed that bug yet
[16:57] <tjaalton> ok
[16:58] <mlankhorst> well it will install as long as you don't use multiarch
[16:58] <tjaalton> so I wonder if getting gpu hungs on precise twice today is due to some update or what
[16:59] <tjaalton> hungs?
[17:00] <bryceh> tjaalton, is it well hungs?
[17:00] <tjaalton> :)
[17:00] <tjaalton> i really hope this is just what other folks are seeing all the time, and not something new
[17:00] <tjaalton> precise has been quite stable for me for the past few months
[17:01] <tjaalton> on ivb
[17:07] <bjsnider> ricotz, was dropping the xvmc lib the only change to the newest blob?
[17:11] <psivaa> tjaalton: xserver-xorg-video-intel does not break either
[17:12] <ricotz> bjsnider, i hope so
[17:12] <tjaalton> psivaa: well that's weird then
[17:13] <tjaalton> hmm what about grub?
[17:15] <tjaalton> psivaa: also, verify that the kernel _image_ was upgraded, 'apt-cache policy linux-image-3.5.0-17-generic'
[17:17] <ricotz> bjsnider, this is nothing for x-updates though, since beta and dropped support for geforce 6
[17:18] <bjsnider> i don't put betas in there anyway
[17:18] <ricotz> ;)
[17:18] <psivaa> tjaalton: that returns, 'Installed: 3.5.0-17.28'
[17:18] <psivaa> tjaalton: just updated grub, trying reboot
[17:19] <tjaalton> psivaa: ok, so it's the latest
[17:19] <psivaa> tjaalton: yes
[17:20] <tjaalton> psivaa: once you're done with it, please run 'apt-get install pastebinit; apt-get -s dist-upgrade | pastebinit'
[17:20] <tjaalton> and give the url
[17:21] <psivaa> tjaalton: ok will do
[17:25] <psivaa> tjaalton: so i go on to update all the packages?
[17:26] <psivaa> tjaalton: no its just two of them for pastebin, my bad
[17:27] <tjaalton> yeah, install pastebinit and then simulate the dist-upgrade
[17:27] <tjaalton> and pipe it to pastebin
[17:27] <psivaa> tjaalton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283497/
[17:30] <tjaalton> psivaa: ok, try upstart next
[17:37] <psivaa> tjaalton: upstart does not seem to break either
[17:40] <Sarvatt> lightdm would be the next i'd try
[17:40] <tjaalton> oh yes
[17:41] <Sarvatt> if its not that i'm completely confused
[17:41] <tjaalton> yeah
[17:41] <tjaalton> "new upstream stable release", bumping the version 1.3.3->1.4.0
[17:41] <Sarvatt> yeah exactly what i just saw
[18:19] <psivaa> tjaalton: Sarvatt: lightdm 1.4.0 does not break either, 5 reboots without failure
[18:19] <tjaalton> meh
[18:40] <Hunan> itsswift@swift-UX31E:~$ chmod a+x enable-rightbutton.sh
[18:40] <Hunan> itsswift@swift-UX31E:~$ ./enable-rightbutton.sh 12 
[18:40] <Hunan> property Synaptics Right Button Area doesn't exist, you need to specify its type and format
[18:41] <Hunan> Any help on that?]
[18:41] <Hunan> ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad  Is the touch pad type
[18:43] <tjaalton> it's most likely not using synaptics, but the evdev driver
[18:43] <Hunan> Alright. Any idea how I enable right click on the evdev driver ? Or how I switch to synaptics? Whichever is better
[18:44] <tjaalton> xinput list-props 12
[18:44] <tjaalton> "Evdev Third Button Emulation"
[18:44] <tjaalton> probably
[18:46] <Hunan> When I did ixinput list-props 12 pretty much everything is synaptics
[18:46] <Hunan> So I' guessing I'm not using evdev
[18:47] <tjaalton> then fix the script
[18:50] <Hunan> Novice struggles. I ouldn't know what I was doing hahah
[18:50] <Hunan> Back to windows
[18:54] <Sarvatt> Hunan: save this as /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283654/
[18:57] <Hunan> Ermmm I dont have permissions to save files in tht locations.. what' the best way to get around that. I'm not sure hwo to ake a file in terminal
[18:59] <Sarvatt> alt+F2, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
[19:00] <Hunan> Perfect
[19:00] <Sarvatt> it should work when you reboot now
[19:00] <Hunan> Brbbrbrb
[19:00] <Hunan> Log out or full reboot?
[19:04] <Hunan_> It worked thanks a bundl
[19:06] <Sarvatt> Hunan_: no problem, where did you find that enable-rightbutton.sh btw? a wiki somewhere? that only worked on a very early version of the clickpad support, not what went into final 12.04
[19:06] <Hunan_> I found it through googling, but it pointed to a wiki page at some point
[19:06] <Hunan_> I can dig it up if you'd lik
[19:07] <Hunan_> Also any thoughts on getting three and four finger gestures to work?
[19:07] <Sarvatt> wow, it's on the debugging touchpad problems page
[19:09] <Hunan_> Yahhh
[19:09] <Hunan_> I was really confused about why it wouldn't work cause it came from official pages.. Also the AsusZenbook Community page states that my trackpad should work out of the box.. it clearly doesnt haah
[19:11] <Hunan_> Also while I've got someone who's nice and helpful is there a way to set my default brightness to the lowest setting ubuntu keeps bumping me back up to max..