[00:00] <lifebird64> craig: I use rsync over a mounted nfs share. works well for me.
[00:00] <WhatWhereAmI> lifebird64: i was gonna suggest this as well, or sshd, but these both require a configure server?
[00:00] <craigbass1976> actionParsnip, I don't want to cp again.  I did it last time and the wireless went wonky with such a transfer (I seem to have a knack for buying kaka routers) so I just want to get what got missed.
[00:01] <craigbass1976> lifebird64, I was going to sshfs the remote dir; I still need an rsync daemon running though, right?
[00:01] <lifebird64> whatwhereami,craig: pretty much anything copying a file from one host to another will involve /some/ form of 'server'
[00:01] <WhatWhereAmI> yeah
[00:01] <WhatWhereAmI> lifebird64: you can just use scp
[00:02] <lifebird64> craig: rsync over nfs doesn't require any rsync server; only exporting an nfs share
[00:02] <lifebird64> craig: whareami's suggestion about suing scp is another good alternative.
[00:03] <lifebird64> craig: depends what you're looking for. if you want incremental or 'copy-only-what's-changed' style of syncing... rsync is great. If you just want to copy the entire directory, regardless... scp is perfect.
[00:04] <WhatWhereAmI> if you want to do an actual merge, like lifebird64 is saying, you should use rsync. this doesn't mean you need to setup an rsync server, you can just use it on a client accessing an nfs share, or over ssh.
[00:05] <lifebird64> ^^ yeah... what he said. ;)
[00:05] <WhatWhereAmI> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/662006/best-way-to-synchronize-code-on-remote-server-using-scp-ssh-copy
[00:05] <omps> hi WhatWhereAmI, best way to use rsync
[00:05] <omps> it takes care of lot of things
[00:07]  * lifebird64 wishes his D-Link nas' nfs server was more reliable though. :%
[00:09] <simplew> when i try to in KDE move an icon from place in plasma panel i get an erro message saying that the protocol preferred is inknown, how can this be fixed?
[00:09] <actionParsnip> omps: I'd use grsync if you have a desktop OS. There is no single 'best'
[00:10] <lifebird64> action: I use the same. it's pretty good. one feature I'd add... allow multiple source directories in single run.
[00:13] <omps> actionParsnip: i never used rsync on desktop OS, so may not have much idea on that. :)
[00:14] <lifebird64> simplew: not saying nobody here has the answer, but since ubuntu comes with gnome-based unity by default, you may want to also try the #kubuntu channel for your KDE question.
[00:14] <simplew> lifebird64: nobody answers in #kubuntu
[00:15] <lifebird64> simplew: hmm... not good. #ubuntu it is then! :)
[00:15] <simplew> still dontget why ubuntu used gnome by default when kde is so much better in a general view
[00:15] <lifebird64> simplew: I, for one, though, have no clue. I'm just getting back into *nix after nearly a decade away and haven't had the chance to fiddle around with KDE yet.
[00:16] <actionParsnip> simplew: kubuntu uses kde by default....
[00:16] <simplew> lets simply compare nautilus with dolphin and we get how much KDE is much more developed
[00:16] <actionParsnip> simplew: its equally supported
[00:17] <simplew> actionParsnip: its supported only bu community, its not officially supported
[00:17] <lifebird64> simplew: *shrug* dunno. Before Ubuntu, I used to use window managers like enlightenment and other shtuff and avoided KDE/GNOME for the most part.
[00:17] <actionParsnip> simplew: its fully supported as the packages used are from the official repos
[00:17] <simplew> lifebird64: maybe its time for you to have a look and be amazed
[00:18] <simplew> actionParsnip: isnt what i have read in the canonical webpages
[00:18] <actionParsnip> simplew: its no less or more supported than Gnome, you will just find more guides are gnome based
[00:18] <simplew> actionParsnip: no, kubuntu its not officially supported
[00:18] <actionParsnip> simplew: sure it is
[00:19] <simplew> actionParsnip: its not, its only supported by the kubuntu community, not officially
[00:19] <actionParsnip> simplew: the community and channels support the packages from the official repos, which also is where KDE comes from
[00:19] <simplew> actionParsnip: like what i said, only by the kubuntu community
[00:19] <actionParsnip> simplew: its supported here, just like XFCE is and LXDE
[00:20] <lifebird64> KDE vs Gnome is like fork vs spoon. (ie. "use whatever you like"). and kubuntu is /not/ officially supported by Canonical. Canonical, however, has no issue with it and does redirect those interested in KDE to try out Kubuntu if they wish.
[00:20] <simplew> canonical only support ubuntu oficially
[00:20] <actionParsnip> simplew: maybe but this channel supports all the packages in the repos
[00:21] <simplew> actionParsnip: in here you see a community
[00:21] <lifebird64> actionParsnip: ^^ that much is true
[00:21] <actionParsnip> simplew: that's all that concerns me
[00:21] <simplew> actionParsnip: im off of this silly discussion, but like is said, see whats canonical says about it
[00:21] <actionParsnip> simplew: I don't care what canonical says
[00:22] <actionParsnip> simplew: in this channel, the repo packaged apps are supported
[00:22] <simplew> well you should since thats the company where ubuntu relies
[00:22] <lifebird64> simplew: actionParsnip is trying to make a very simple point...
[00:22] <actionParsnip> simplew: I haven't in 5 years, not starting now
[00:22] <simplew> actionParsnip: in fact your free to do whatever you want
[00:22] <lifebird64> in here... to the best of people's ability, they try to help with any and all packages found in the canonical repos... KDE being among them.
[00:22] <simplew> so go ahed
[00:22] <actionParsnip> simplew: thanks, I will.
[00:22] <simplew> lifebird64: thats what i was saying
[00:23] <BobDobalina> can't we all just get along
[00:23] <lifebird64> then I'm really confuzed 'cause it sounds like we're all saying the same thing but in different ways. I'm with BobDobalina... let's move on.
[00:24] <simplew> the community, but its rather different if a enterprise chooses to use kubuntu, it will not be able to have support from canonical
[00:24] <Purian23|Afk> Hey guys, anyone know a good Mint13 IRC channnel like this one!
[00:24] <actionParsnip> !mint | Purian23
[00:24] <lifebird64> Purian: wondering... do they have one listed on their website?
[00:24] <lifebird64> ... checking...
[00:24] <shantorn> they do
[00:24] <simplew> lifebird64: yes they ddddo
[00:25] <Purian23> Yep, they sure do, just no one around that spot!
[00:25] <shantorn> yes there is
[00:25] <Cyrax> Hi.. i got a ubuntu on dualboot.. running in a virutal box. the thing is.. normally the - symbol is a - symbol.. but when i'm in terminal,the - symbol changed to a / symbol.. how do i change back so it is - in terninal and ubuntu itself?
[00:25] <lifebird64> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[00:25] <shantorn> go ask in help
[00:25] <Purian23> ubottu thank you, I didnt want to ask that in here
[00:25] <Purian23> ;)
[00:25] <simplew> Purian23: im server irc.spotchat.org in channel #linuxmint-help use to live many many users that can help you
[00:26] <Purian23> Thanks guys, Only 2 ppl in there, but I will seek it out.
[00:26] <lifebird64> Cyrax: say whaaaaat? lol
[00:26] <simplew> Purian23: i think your simply in freenode servers in channel #linuxmint-help
[00:27] <Purian23> Btw, just checking, and I can tell the Ubuntu love in here, I have GREAT support from you guys, actionParsnip and all to help :)
[00:27] <Cyrax> i mean.. its like the symbols has changed place when I'm in terminal on ubuntu.. but not when I'm on windows vista os.. how do i use the same on ubuntu? sorry for bad explaination
[00:27] <Purian23> simplew I think you might be correct!
[00:27] <simplew> Purian23: you need to go to the server irc.spotchat.org
[00:28] <actionParsnip> Purian23: as you learn the OS you can help too if you want, makes the community stronger <3
[00:28] <Purian23> Exactly!! Without a doubt, so new to it, but I follow instructions well :)
[00:28] <simplew> is there any GUI that i can use to set flags of a kernel module?
[00:29] <lifebird64> Cyrax: you have ubuntu in virtual box... console-based only? or does your Ubuntu instance also have a GUI interface?
[00:29] <Cyrax> its in virual box.. running in a popup window
[00:30] <actionParsnip> simplew: have you asked in #kernel or #linux too?
[00:31] <simplew> actionParsnip: thats related to the distro, for exmaple in Mageia i can use a drake tool to set some module flags
[00:31] <lifebird64> cyrax: *shrug* my /guess/ is that you're using the wrong character encoding, but I really don't know for sure. maybe somebody else can help you more.
[00:33] <n0sq> i don't know what's going on but i keep getting application crashes - happens on all of my computers - all but one runs 12.04.1 - one has 11.10 on it (only because upgrade to 12.x fails)
[00:33] <DJCLOO> <3 ubuntu
[00:33] <Hieberrr> Will the new LibreOffice stuff get released for .04?
[00:33] <lifebird64> cyrax: where I'd start... try running 'locale' command. are you running UTF-8 ?
[00:33] <n0sq> one app no longer works properly - and that is emesene
[00:34] <Cyrax> i think so,not sure
[00:35] <lifebird64> Cyrax: in my console, when I run 'locale' I get (for example) en_CA.UTF-8 (CA since I'm in canada)
[00:35] <lifebird64> Cyrax: what does /yours/ say?
[00:35] <actionParsnip> simplew: they may be aware of an app for Ubuntu
[00:36] <actionParsnip> simplew: BTW, have you heard of RazorQT :)
[00:36] <actionParsnip> simplew: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/lightweight-qt-desktop-environment.html
[00:36] <simplew> actionParsnip: what that has to do with setting modules parameters?
[00:36] <simplew> actionParsnip: i have found http://askubuntu.com/questions/51226/how-to-add-kernel-module-parameters
[00:37] <actionParsnip> simplew: just thatyou going on about KDE, it reminded me of that....that's all
[00:37] <wchan_> PSA. if you're using the newest intel chipset (z77)... ubuntu 12.04 does not install properly, centos 6.0 does tho... now going to try ubuntu 11.10
[00:37] <wchan_> correction / i installed w centos 6.4
[00:37] <wchan_> 6.3
[00:37] <wchan_> centos 6.3
[00:38] <actionParsnip> simplew: you can add modle parameters in files in /etc/modprobe.d/something.conf
[00:38] <wchan_> now going to try 11.10 ... wish me lucks!
[00:38] <actionParsnip> simplew: its not a GUI tough
[00:38] <simplew> actionParsnip: i prefer qaiting that qt5 arrives to ubuntu
[00:39] <actionParsnip> simplew: something like:  echo "options thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ thinkpad_acpi.conf > /dev/null
[00:39] <actionParsnip> simplew: then when  thinkpad_acpi the option will be used by default
[00:40] <simplew> actionParsnip: thats the example module thats in the webpage, but i still need to do a few more tests before disable wifi FW parameter
[00:41] <actionParsnip> simplew: its that sort of thing in files like that, basically
[00:42] <HeAd> can someone help me out?
[00:42] <actionParsnip> simplew: I found this: https://launchpad.net/~bzoltan/+archive/qt5?field.series_filter=precise    for Qt5 in Precise.
[00:42] <actionParsnip> HeAd: ask and see
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> n0sq, 3rd problem down yours. http://blog.emesene.org/p/faq.html
[00:43] <HeAd> i whant to make mine pc a web server that a i can see the webpage on the web
[00:43] <HeAd> so how can i do that? does someone know?
[00:43] <simplew> actionParsnip: qt5 its still under heavy development, so better wait for the first oficial release and that apeparspackaged in ubuntu
[00:43] <actionParsnip> simplew: indeed
[00:43] <ezio> what's the x server for the latest version of ubuntu?
[00:43] <Hieberrr> I've been meaning to ask. Is there any easy way (kind of like  on Windows) to uninstall apps that weren't installed through the app store?
[00:43] <actionParsnip> !lamp | HeAd
[00:44] <actionParsnip> Hieberrr: use the same app to uninstall packages
[00:44] <lifebird64> HeAd: I may be wrong, but it sounds like you'll be setting up your very /first/ web server.
[00:44] <HeAd> thanks
[00:44] <ezio> where are x server logs?
[00:44] <lifebird64> HeAd: If that's true, I suggest you start with just 'Apache' (the main web server itself) and get comfortable with that.
[00:45] <Hieberrr> actionParsnip: I mean, for example --> Dropbox is installed by downloading it through the site and then running it as an executable. But you can't normally uninstall it via the app store, you have to.. iono do it through terminal or synaptic (which sometimes confuses me).
[00:45] <lifebird64> HeAd: then add in PHP and MySQL if/when you're ready.
[00:45] <actionParsnip> Hieberrr: you can uninstall packages you installed outside of the official repos using software centre
[00:46] <actionParsnip> !info nautilus-dropbox | Hieberrr
[00:46] <HeAd> but how i redirect external connections to my server at home?
[00:46] <actionParsnip> Hieberrr: you don't need the deb from the site, you can install using software centre
[00:46] <HeAd> so my friends and the world can see my page?
[00:46] <uw> so i finally upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04.
[00:46] <actionParsnip> HeAd: you will need to port forward 80/TCP to the IP of the server
[00:46] <Hieberrr> actionParsnip: Thank you
[00:46] <lifebird64> Hieberrr: synaptic manager and using apt-get remove are (if I'm not mistaken) very closely related. Synaptic makes it prettier.
[00:46] <uw> the experience in a phrase:  "she's gone from suck to blow!"
[00:47] <HeAd> i see... that easy?
[00:47] <actionParsnip> HeAd: yes
[00:47] <HeAd> thank you
[00:47] <HeAd> for the help
[00:47] <lifebird64> HeAd: depending on your router, it's either 'port forwarding' or 'virtual server'
[00:47] <actionParsnip> HeAd: the router is currently dropping requests on port 80, once you setup the rule it will connect ok
[00:47] <uw> btw i
[00:47] <HeAd> i'll try
[00:47] <HeAd> =D
[00:47] <lifebird64> HeAd: their synonymous (for basic setups)
[00:47] <uw> m guessing ubuntu has dropped all support for ATI cards?
[00:47] <Hieberrr> lifebird64: Yeah, I know. It's just that sometimes I don't know what the name of an app is, so removing it is hard. Same with synaptic, because I found 2-3 different dropbox things in synaptic LOL
[00:48] <actionParsnip> uw: the proprietary video driver is in the repos (or an installer for it)
[00:48] <lifebird64> Hieberrr: ah. yeah. that gets me too.
[00:48] <lifebird64> Hieberrr: is that what you're trying to uninstall right now? I have it on my computer and could have a look around o'er here.
[00:48] <Hieberrr> lifebird64: I guess I can just use the Software Centre and refrain from installing .deb LO.
[00:48] <Hieberrr> LOL*
[00:49] <uw> yup but wasnt there an option for not using the proprietary binary?
[00:49] <lifebird64> Hieberrr: lol
[00:49] <Cyrax> This is how u install packages: sudo apt-get instal "package name here ".. but whats the command to remove/uninstall a package?
[00:49] <actionParsnip> uw: sure, there are open source drivers for ATi chips in a default install
[00:49] <Hieberrr> lifebird64: Oh now, I was just asking for general purposes. It's the rare occasion of confusion that gets to me LOL
[00:49] <Hieberrr> no*
[00:49] <actionParsnip> Cyrax: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[00:49] <lifebird64> Hieberrr: hmmm... I only have the one package installed ("dropbox" 1.4.0)
[00:50] <Cyrax> thanks :D
[00:50] <lifebird64> Hieberrr: ah. gotcha. then I'll bow out of trying to help, 'cause I sometimes get equally confused. ;)
[00:50] <Hieberrr> lifebird64: Weird :S I had around 3 different things listed before. Oh well :P If it's in the SC, I'll get it from there from now on, heh.
[00:50] <Hieberrr> lifebird64: THanks for the help :)
[00:50] <lifebird64> Hieberr: not sure if I did much, but you're welcome all the same. :)
[00:51] <actionParsnip> Hieberrr: software centre is just a GUI to the packages (installed and not installed alike), so you can uninstall packages as you wish, even if they are not from the Ubuntu repos or a PPA
[00:51] <Hieberrr> actionParsnip: O: For real?
[00:51] <actionParsnip> Hieberrr: yes, search software centre for dropbox and you'll see it
[00:51] <zykotick9> Hieberrr: assuming you installed fro a DEB.  does not apply to "source" installs, or binary installs.
[00:52] <Hieberrr> zykotick9: Yeah it was through a .deb
[00:53] <actionParsnip> Hieberrr: then it gels with the package system and will appear
[00:53] <zykotick9> Hieberrr: fyi, if i don't know what a package is called, i use "apt-cache search foo" from cli (fyi, no sudo required)
[00:55] <Hieberrr> actionParsnip: Ahh, thanks :)
[00:55] <Hieberrr> zykotick9: I gotta look into that
[00:59] <Cyrax> The ubuntu i use running from virtualbox.. is it possible to use a chat app called mirc on ubuntu?
[01:00] <wchan_> the ubuntu 11.10 installer wont recognize my USB keyboard.... any ideas? ... it recognizes it on the boot menu, i select install then it goto languages and keyboard no longer works...
[01:01] <lifebird64> Cyrax: not unless mIRC makes a linux compatible client (hint: their own website and a google search show that they don't). xChat is a popular alternative. If you're using a console, irssi is pretty good too (I'm using it right now).
[01:02] <Cyrax> i see.. ok.. jsut need a good irc client for ubuntu wich use a script language called .mrc
[01:03] <Cyrax> Besides i'm not familiar with other script languages then what mirc have.. thats y
[01:03] <[twisti]> is it possible for a file permission to overwrite directory permissions ? i have file X in directory /A, and X is owned by user U who of course has rw for his own file, but /A is owned by user V, and is set to 744. i want to allow U to write to his own file X without giving U any permissions in regards to /A
[01:04] <blackshirt> !acl | twisti
[01:06] <[twisti]> !bfx blackshirt
[01:08] <Cyrax> i did sudo apt-get irssi,but after its done,i dont see irssi on ubuntu.. why not?
[01:09] <elky> Cyrax, there won't be a menu option, you run it in a terminal window by opening one and typing "irssi"
[01:09] <michealPW> !bfx | michealPW
[01:09] <michealPW> LOL!
[01:10] <Cyrax> oh. i forgot that irssi is a commandline irc client running in terminal :p
[01:12] <kolongkel> what's the best way to adjust laptop screen brightness? When I hit the Fn-LeftArrow I see an icon float and show the brightness 'reducing'... but the brightness doesn't change. (This isn't really a problem with A/C power, but when on battery it chews up battery life) - using xUbuntu (stable)
[01:13] <Cyrax> And how do i make the ubuntu the orange window to b full screen?
[01:14] <n0sq> wilee-nilee: python-indicate is already installed
[01:18] <lifebird64> afk for a bit (possibly for the night). peace
[01:21] <bcuraboy> hi guys.sorry to botter. i need to know which would be the best distro of linux to install in a Pentium 3 with 500MHz and 128mb of ram
[01:21] <Cyrax> When i maximize the Oracle VM VirtualBox popup window,it open to max,but there is a small orange window in the middle.. how do i get a full screen of that so it fits the whole window?
[01:21] <Dext> try xubuntu
[01:21] <Dext> or linux mint
[01:22] <bcuraboy> thank's Dext
[01:22] <michealPW> The KDE apps are so slick..
[01:24] <bcuraboy> Dext, which version of xubuntu you recommend?
[01:25] <bcuraboy> by the way, i forgot to mention...that dinossaur has only 6gb of hdd
[01:25] <bcuraboy> :D
[01:25] <Jagst3r15> where do i report bug for ubuntu.com site
[01:27] <cuddlemonster> I  have an eSATA expresscard in my laptop. What do I need to do to remove it safely? Unmounting the filesystem is a given. What do I need to do for the expresscard itself?
[01:28] <rayfin> hey all, new fairly new ubuntu desktop user, long time linux server (apache/postfix mainly) user. im having issues with 12.04. i have have an nvidia card. and 2 monitors. i think im using current-updates drivers now even though it says its activated and not in use, i read that was a bug somewhere? anyways. my second monitor is grey w/ a black X. If i install the latest drivers from nvidia.com the second monitor works just great. but from what im readi
[01:28] <rayfin> ng is the module won't get loaded into a new kernel with updates so i shouldn't use it unless i want to deal with the hassle?
[01:28] <Jagst3r15> anyone
[01:31] <twitchie> !bug | Jagst3r15
[01:32] <Sazpaimon> what's the current favorite software for mounting S3 as a filesystem?
[01:32] <Sazpaimon> ive traditionally used s3fs, but it appears there's a few more different pieces of software for doing this
[01:32] <twitchie> !poll | Sazpaimon
[01:40] <mibr001> i need help i have a usb printer on windows 7 and i need to print from ubuntu 12.4.1 on a laptop on a wireless network
[01:40] <KM0201> mibr001: model printer?
[01:40] <mibr001> hp deskjet 1000
[01:41] <KM0201> is the printer wireless capable?
[01:41] <mibr001> no... .
[01:42] <KM0201> i'm not sure how you'd expect to print to it wirelessly then... can you do that w/ xp?
[01:42] <KM0201> or any other version of windows?
[01:44] <mibr001> my laptop (ubuntu) is connected to a wireless router which is plugged into another port on the same wired router as my moms desktop (win7)(usb printer)
[01:44] <Cyrax> How do i "get out" of this so called scale for ubuntu?
[01:44] <KM0201> you could get one of those small print servers and plug it into your router, then printer into that... that should make it work.
[01:44] <KM0201> i understand that mibr001
[01:44] <KM0201> Cyrax: scale for ubuntu?
[01:45] <Cyrax> yeah..
[01:45] <Cyrax> idk how to explain it
[01:45] <sesstreets> there's scales in ubuntu?
[01:45] <KM0201> well ifyou can't explain it, it's unlikely anyone can help you with it
[01:45] <OerHeks> mibr001, this is some start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[01:46] <Cyrax> i think the scale thing changed to a full screen some how
[01:46] <simplew> Cyrax: whaaat?
[01:46] <sesstreets> so
[01:47] <sesstreets> what exactly is the scale you're refering to?
[01:47] <sesstreets> do you mean text size or something?
[01:47] <Cyrax> no.. the screen itself got wider
[01:47] <simplew> who loves the fox serie Bones?
[01:47] <Cyrax> i know it was something about scale
[01:47] <sesstreets> is it out of proportion?
[01:47] <xbskid> What package has mount.cifs?
[01:47] <xbskid> what-provides has failed me
[01:48] <simplew> my feet are cold, what can i do?
[01:48] <BobDobalina> take a laptop running ubuntu
[01:49] <BobDobalina> set the part where the battery is on your feet
[01:49] <BobDobalina> watch a youtube video
[01:49] <simplew> BobDobalina: my other laptop isnt runing, is cold
[01:49] <simplew> BobDobalina: but its agood idea :D
[01:50] <simplew> BobDobalina: so better put the laptop upside down and put it runing, there i can put my feet on it
[01:50] <simplew> BobDobalina: correct?
[01:51] <SnapSnap> When is 12.10 being released?
[01:51] <twitchie> Cyrax: are you talking about monitor overscan
[01:52] <OerHeks> SnapSnap, maybe Thursday
[01:52] <simplew> SnapSnap: im using it
[01:52] <Cyrax> i think so.. the scale thing made the small organge screen in the middle of the popup window to b full screen
[01:53] <michael_> I installed the ubuntu10.04, it is too slow,
[01:53] <simplew> OerHeks: will it tbe the RC i think
[01:53] <twitchie> !ubuntu+1
[01:53] <OerHeks> simplew, there is no rc
[01:53] <simplew> whats a quetzal?
[01:53] <OerHeks> duhh stop trolling simplew
[01:54] <bazhang> !ot | simplew
[01:54] <simplew> im not trolling, trolling its some different
[01:54] <bazhang> simplew, stop now
[01:54] <simplew> im simply playing a bit
[01:54] <twitchie> Cyrax: sorry I don't follow. Are you having troubles with your desktop not filling your entire monitor?
[01:54] <williamchan> how can i get the ubuntu installer to just install the grub boot loader? the installer failed to install grub the first time
[01:55] <Cyrax> yes that,but for the ubuntu screen..
[01:55] <Cyrax> i made it a full screen,but i dont know how to go back to default
[01:55] <twitchie> Cyrax: ok are you using an ATI video card?
[01:55] <Cyrax> That i have no clue about.. sorry
[01:56] <williamchan_> how can i get the ubuntu installer to just install the grub boot loader? the installer failed to install grub the first time
[01:56] <OerHeks> williamchan_, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[01:57] <twitchie> Cyrax: double click the title bar of the window you want to return to normal size
[01:57] <craigbass1976> I'm dealing with an Acer Aspire V5-571-6605.  It'
[01:57] <OerHeks> Cyrax, maybe you hit F11, hit F11 again ?
[01:57] <craigbass1976> It's got one of those multi touch touch pads.  Anyone had trouble with these?
[02:00] <Cyrax> i tried F11,but nothing
[02:00] <mrdeb> hello, pls help install nvidia on amd64 12.10 ubuntu. no one is in ubutnu +1 so i need to ask here. pls its ver important
[02:00] <bazhang> mrdeb, wrong channel. be patient there
[02:00] <mrdeb> bahzang, no one hs there
[02:01] <bazhang> mrdeb, then be patient. this is NOT the channel for 12.10
[02:01] <jrib> mrdeb: that doesn't mean this channel becomes the 12.10 channel
[02:01] <mrdeb> ....
[02:01] <craigbass1976> mrdeb, did the card work in 12.04?
[02:01] <jrib> mrdeb: not to mention you have yet to ask an actual question in #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <mrdeb>  please pm me
[02:03] <simplew> wayland wasnt to replace x11? bu ti see both installed
[02:03] <mrdeb> craig, yes and it works if you install nvidia -current in software center in 32 bit but on 64 bit it doesnt load driver
[02:03] <bazhang> simplew, lets try to stay on topic
[02:04] <ner0x> How can I block someone from private messaging me?
[02:04] <simplew> i made a question about wayland,wasnt to replace x11?
[02:04] <bazhang> ner0x, /mode yournick +Rg
[02:04] <simplew> im confused about it
[02:04] <jrib> ner0x: depends on your client
[02:04] <ner0x> using xChat
[02:05] <bazhang> simplew, not for several years, if that
[02:05] <williamchan_> if my drive was previously formmatted with EFI, and i want to use MBR again, does that mean i have to do something special to wipe out the EFI (i remember installing on top wont fix the problem)
[02:05] <bazhang> ner0x, then use my command
[02:05] <simplew> so i can safely uninstall waland?
[02:05] <simplew> wayland*
[02:05] <bazhang> simplew, sure
[02:05] <bazhang>  /mode ner0x +Rg
[02:06] <ner0x> bazhang: I do this in the private message?
[02:06] <jrib> ner0x: you want to block all private messages or only ones from a specific user?
[02:06] <bazhang> ner0x, in the server window
[02:06] <ner0x> Just a specific user.
[02:06] <zykotick9> bazhang: what does that "/mode nick +Rg" do?
[02:07] <jrib> ner0x: the mode command above will block all private messages
[02:07] <simplew> bazhang: there are packages depending on it:
[02:07] <simplew> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:07] <simplew>   kde-window-manager-active-gles* libegl1-mesa* libegl1-mesa-drivers* libkwinactiveglesutils1*
[02:07] <simplew>   libwayland0*
[02:07] <Cyrax> So what can i do to get the full screen back to default.. the ubuntu default back ground screen is orange.. but when i use ubuntu in the virtualbox,the orange window is in the middle.. i made it full screeen.. adn i need it to b like it was
[02:07] <FloodBot1> simplew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <bazhang> zykotick9, blocks unregistered (+R) and every single one (+g)
[02:07] <ner0x> I wish only to block one person.
[02:07] <simplew> oh sorry the floop, i have pasted without wanting
[02:07] <simplew> i was to paste the pastebin address
[02:08] <bazhang> ner0x, then try /ignore
[02:08] <ner0x> bazhang: I will.
[02:08] <zykotick9> bazhang: thanks.  i assumed the R was registered, but didn't know what g would be.
[02:09] <bazhang> zykotick9, with +g  you can selectively /accept those that chanserv tells you are try ing to PM you
[02:10] <someprimetime> how come this wouldn't be working in ubuntu in my ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile: export TERM="xterm-color" export CLICOLOR=1 export LSCOLORS=GxFxCxDxBxegedabagaced
[02:10] <zykotick9> bazhang: interesting.  thanks again :)
[02:10] <Cyrax> So what shall i do? .)
[02:10] <SnapSnap> How do I download the 12.10 beta?
[02:10] <Cyrax> *:)
[02:10] <SnapSnap> From 12.04?
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> SnapSnap, At ubuntu or a daily release
[02:11] <zykotick9> SnapSnap: download the iso?  search for daily 12.10.  or update to it?
[02:11] <SnapSnap> zykotick9,  I want to update to it
[02:12] <SnapSnap> zykotick9, I tried to add the quantal-updates repository but couldn't quite figure out how
[02:12] <zykotick9> SnapSnap: ask in #ubuntu+1 ;) i remember a -d or -D switch for development
[02:13] <SnapSnap> zykotick9, Thanks
[02:15] <kerrick> Are "Alternate install" and "Server" mutually exclusive?
[02:15] <kerrick> Err, guess not, found what I was looking for
[02:15] <KM0201> kerrick: actually, yes.
[02:16] <kerrick> KM0201, oh, OK
[02:16] <kerrick> yeah, I guess I didn't actually find that combination
[02:16] <KM0201> server install, installs a server distro (no desktop interface) the alternatee install, is a text installer, but will install a full desktop
[02:16] <kerrick> that's unfortunate
[02:16] <KM0201> why is that?
[02:16] <kerrick> I just want a server installer that never goes into GUI
[02:16] <kerrick> KM0201, I'm running QEMU in a SSH session
[02:16] <KM0201> kerrick: then you need to download hte server editio
[02:16] <kerrick> can't do graphics
[02:17] <KM0201> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[02:17] <Guest68888> I was under the impression the Ubuntu alternate 64bit had desktop, as a selectable option, meaning you didn
[02:17] <zykotick9> kerrick: mini is also an option for you.  see "/msg ubottu mini" for details
[02:18] <Guest68888> didn't have to install the gui
[02:18] <KM0201> Guest68888: not that i know of.. pretty sure it just defaults and installs one.
[02:22] <Snowie> hi all. Having dramas with packages. just commented out the suspect repos for plexmedia server, now i get "$ Reading package lists... Done
[02:22] <Snowie> W: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key" Any help?
[02:23] <bazhang> !gpgerr | Snowie
[02:24] <Snowie> So in this instance it would be "$ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5" ???
[02:25] <kerrick> Dang, even the mini installer apparently runs in framebuffer mode.
[02:25] <kerrick> Shame.
[02:25] <Snowie> bazhang,  So in this instance it would be "$ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5" ???
[02:26] <bazhang> Snowie, minus the BADSIG
[02:26] <Snowie> bazhang, thanks, trying now
[02:26] <simplew> bazhang: isnt possible to continue the channel tab open after a ban in konversation?
[02:26] <Snowie> bazhang, now just try apt update?
[02:27] <bazhang> Snowie, yep
[02:27] <bazhang> simplew, not sure what you mean
[02:27] <simplew> bazhang: when you baned me the window simply closed, but i dont see an option to enable channels windows open after a ban
[02:28] <bazhang> #konversation     simplew and that was a remove, not a ban
[02:28] <KM0201> lol
[02:28] <simplew> bazhang: im not understanding
[02:28] <Snowie> bazhang, lol, im just realising, was it stoopid to paste my key in here?
[02:28] <KM0201> probably won't hurt anything
[02:29] <[^^JUAZ^^]> u.U
[02:29] <Snowie> bazhang, same error :S
[02:29] <bazhang> simplew, so ask in the #konversation channel
[02:29] <simplew> bazhang: you said was a remove, i dont know whats that
[02:29] <[^^JUAZ^^]> lol
[02:29] <Snowie> I think i will just restore my repo file and deal with the original error first
[02:29] <bazhang> simplew, please, stop. this is NOTHING about ubuntu support
[02:30] <simplew> bazhang: yes, but could you please just tell me whats that? in private?
[02:32] <elky> is there a way to make switch user ask you if you're sure before it does it?
[02:32] <elky> i keep hitting it trying for my rightmost firefox tab
[02:32] <blackshirt> elky, could you more detail ?
[02:33] <Snowie> So again all. My repo's seem pretty busted, here is the output of apt upsate http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282350/
[02:34] <elky> BlackBishop, if you hit your name on the top panel, it shows "switch user account" as the top item of the menu. that. i want to need to confirm to switch the user before it does it.
[02:34] <elky> because if my mouse wobbles when i go for a tab right underneath it, it easily toggles that menu then hits switch user
[02:37] <Black_Daemon> hello
[02:38] <elky> blackshirt, or perhaps get rid of that menu altogether?
[02:38] <Snowie> So again all. My repo's seem pretty busted, here is the output of apt upsate http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282350/
[02:38] <Black_Daemon> what is a repo?
[02:38] <aafa> how can I gather information from my current ppp config file through terminal?
[02:38] <Snowie> !repo
[02:41] <phong_> hi , any chinese person in here?
[02:41] <elky> Snowie, exactly how old is your installation
[02:41] <aafa> chao!
[02:41] <elky> !zh
[02:41] <phong_> ok
[02:41] <aafa> heh im not chinese
[02:41] <Snowie> hmmm... i have been upgrading ubuntu's since ... um... 10.04 i think
[02:42] <OerHeks> elky found an answer
[02:42] <xangua> Snowie: you can remove duplicate sources from Software Center>Edit>Sources and you also already have given instructions to add the gpg keys
[02:42] <Snowie> elky, that is spanish i think mate
[02:42] <aafa> where does ubuntu keep ppp information of my current connection ? (I use 3G UMTS network)
[02:42] <OerHeks> elky hoto disable user switching  http://askubuntu.com/questions/153930/how-to-permanently-disable-user-switching-in-gnome-3 Enable org->gnome->desktop->lockdown->disable-user-switching
[02:43] <phong_> no one answer in there
[02:43] <elky> OerHeks, i'll try see if that works with unity, thanks
[02:43] <elky> it seems familiar
[02:44] <Snowie> xangua, i will have another look, but im sure ive removed all duplicates
[02:44] <phong_> xangua, are you chinese?
[02:44] <bazhang> !ot | phong_
[02:44] <aafa> %4Who will tell me the location of ppp.conf
[02:45] <elky> OerHeks, heh, i already have that ticked, but i still have the user switching menu :(
[02:45] <elky> and it still does its thing when i accidentally click it
[02:45] <OerHeks> elky did you logout/login again ?
[02:46] <elky> OerHeks, well, i didn't do that change in the past few months and my machine was off for an hour last week.
[02:46] <aafa> Isn't this Ubuntu channel? why does nobody asnwer me??
[02:46] <OerHeks> aafa, you can find it yourself, open terminal:  locate ppp.conf
[02:46] <elky> aafa, because nobody here now knows
[02:47] <nicekiwi> hey, I upgraded to the 3.6 kernel in 12.04 and now I cant install Nvidia drivers with Jockey, help?
[02:47] <xangua> nicekiwi: it is recomended to stich to the kernel provided by the official ubuntu repository, otherwise you are on your own
[02:48] <aafa> OerHeks: I don't know what it is called in ubuntu, I refer to another Unix OS in which it is ppp.conf
[02:48] <nicekiwi> xangua, well.. this is provided by ubuntu.. in the ubuntu mainline kernel ppa
[02:48] <bazhang> nicekiwi, its a PPA
[02:49] <bazhang> !ppa | nicekiwi
[02:49] <nicekiwi> bazhang, provided by ubuntu
[02:49] <aafa> I tried /usr/sbin/pppconfig but it's a perl script not config
[02:49] <nicekiwi> bazhang, kernel.ubuntu.com sounds pretty ubuntu to me..
[02:49] <aafa> nicekiwi: lol
[02:50] <bazhang> nicekiwi, PPA means on your own. jockey wont work with that
[02:50] <nicekiwi> hmm... guess im off to nvidia.com
[02:50] <Snowie> xangua, i have disabled repos i know are deemed duplicates. i have tried to restore my keys. i get the same error.
[02:52] <aafa> here are about hundred users and nobody knows about Peer to Peer Protocol Config file's location??
[02:52] <xangua> Snowie: what is the terminal output when you run the comand to add the keys¿
[02:52] <Snowie> I have run "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5" but still get ": GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key"
[02:53] <Snowie> xangua, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282373/ but last time im sure the update number was higher
[02:54] <nicekiwi> bazhang, thankx anyways :)
[02:54] <elky> OerHeks, finally found a good hit in google: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87649/dont-display-user-name-in-panel
[02:55] <lawcab> hello....i am new to ubuntu and have a simple question
[02:55] <OerHeks> elky nice
[02:55] <lawcab> i downloaded and unzipped eclipse to programs directory
[02:56] <lawcab> now I want to add it to the side bar for easy launching
[02:56] <lawcab> anyway i can do that easily
[02:56] <bazhang> lawcab, why not throught the package manager
[02:56] <OerHeks> Snowie, the easy way is to install Y PPA Manager, it has an "advanced" button that will find your missing keys
[02:56] <aafa> lawcab: launch it and add to laucher
[02:56] <elky> OerHeks, heavens forbid we be able to customise things without opening a terminal
[02:56] <aafa> lawcab: right click while it's open
[02:56] <lawcab> right click on the actual program
[02:57] <OerHeks> elky, i think you have a good point for a bugreport
[02:57] <bazhang> lawcab, you should never install things from 3rd party websites (for the most part)
[02:57] <bazhang> !info eclipse | lawcab
[02:57] <elky> OerHeks, im sure i do, but i have to get back to work now :(
[02:57] <Snowie> OerHeks, ok will give it a go
[02:57] <aafa> lawcab: launch the application and the right click on launcher and choose add to launcher
[02:57] <elky> at least i won't keep switching out now :)
[02:57] <lawcab> aafa: i only get lock to launcher
[02:58] <lawcab> is that the same
[02:58] <Snowie> OerKe
[02:58] <bazhang> lawcab, dont install eclipse in that fashion
[02:58] <Snowie> OerHeks,
[02:58] <lawcab> bazhang
[02:58] <Snowie> dont see it in the repos
[02:58] <lawcab> bazhang : install using packagemanager
[02:59] <aafa> lawcab: install through Software Center
[02:59] <bazhang> lawcab, yes.     <lawcab> i downloaded and unzipped eclipse to programs directory
[02:59] <bazhang> lawcab, and that is not what you did
[02:59] <lawcab> bazhang: i downloaded it manually
[03:00] <bazhang> lawcab, thats the wrong way
[03:00] <lawcab> ok, i will just redownload it the proper way
[03:00] <lawcab> bazhang: thanks
[03:00] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[03:00] <lawcab> aafa: thanks
[03:00] <OerHeks> Snowie, i see, follow this guide > http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/y-ppa-manager-0092-released-with-new.html
[03:01] <SuperMiguel> whats better legacy or uefi???
[03:01] <aafa> bazhang: dude don't you know where is ppp conf file of the current connection ?
[03:04] <OerHeks> !ppp | aafa
[03:04]  * OerHeks never used dailup on ubuntu
[03:05] <RussellAlan> anyone know why my wifi switch light doesnt show up on ubuntu, although it used to, it couldnt be the vendor id mesed up could it? Sony Vaio
[03:05] <Snowie> OerHeks, finding keys now. Thanks mate
[03:07] <williamchan_> how can i update my logitech mouse drivers
[03:07] <williamchan_> ubuntu 12.04 is not recognizing my mouse
[03:07] <williamchan_> dmesg is giving me an error -32
[03:08] <williamchan_> hogi_dj_recv_query_paired_devices error: -32
[03:08] <williamchan_> logi_dj_recv_query_paired_devices error -32
[03:10] <amsterdam_> sup all
[03:10] <amsterdam_> has anyone had sound driver issues with kernel 3.5.x?
[03:11] <amsterdam_> anyone? anyone know the effects?
[03:11] <Snowie> OerHeks, sorry mate, no love. What is going on here, same error. "W: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:11] <Snowie> "
[03:11] <OerHeks> amsterdam_, that is not the current kernel. it is recomended to stich to the kernel provided by the official ubuntu repository, otherwise you are on your own
[03:11] <Snowie> OerHeks, Y PPA reported it had found all missin keys
[03:12] <OerHeks> Snowie, great ! have fun !
[03:12] <amsterdam_> hmm
[03:12] <amsterdam_> I ran a apt-get upgrade and that's what happened...
[03:12] <Snowie> OerHeks, :( that bad huh
[03:12] <babolatpdtp> hey guys. question for you: i'm running the latest ubuntu and have an external drive formatted in NTFS. it was all working but now i suddenly get "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 12: NTFS signature is missing". Opening the HD on my mac however still works properly. anyone know what i can do to get it working on ubuntu?
[03:12] <amsterdam_> can I down grade by?
[03:12] <aafa> the problem is ubuntu has no a ppp config file, i fail
[03:12] <amsterdam_> using a deb package?
[03:13] <aafa> no worries it's unstable OS
[03:13] <zykotick9> !downgrade | amsterdam_ in SOME ways downgrading is impossible, the scripts are only 1 direction...
[03:14] <OerHeks> amsterdam_, did you add a PPA ? that is reversable.
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> Snowie, Try the first command set here. http://askubuntu.com/questions/115480/all-kind-of-errors-while-running-apt-get-update-gpg-badsig-and-more
[03:14] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge
[03:15] <amsterdam_> OerHeks, no...
[03:15] <amsterdam_> I am on the 12.10 beta though, as that's the only Ubuntu version which would boot with my mobo
[03:15] <amsterdam_> UEFI :/
[03:15] <Black_Daemon> hello!
[03:16] <Black_Daemon> I have a question about compiling c++ programs on ubuntu, if anyone can help me
[03:16] <amsterdam_> what do you need to know?
[03:16] <amsterdam_> @Black_Daemon
[03:16] <Black_Daemon> so
[03:16] <Snowie> wilee-nilee, running
[03:16] <Black_Daemon> someone else created a project (this other person and I are working together) and he started the project with XCode (I think)
[03:16] <Black_Daemon> or maybe not
[03:17] <Black_Daemon> in any case
[03:17] <amsterdam_> uh
[03:17] <Black_Daemon> haha is this a sign of doom already?
[03:17] <amsterdam_> well, if he's using Xcode you can only use that project file if you're on a mac
[03:17] <amsterdam_> because Xcode is OSX only
[03:17] <Black_Daemon> OK then maybe he isn't using XCode
[03:17] <Black_Daemon> hold on let me check
[03:17] <amsterdam_> If you're looking for a good IDE to use, I'd recommend Qt Creator for the both of you
[03:17] <amsterdam_> it's multi platform and great for C++ dev
[03:18] <zykotick9> Black_Daemon: you might want to read "/msg ubottu ask" (pay attention to the 1 line part) and "/msg ubottu enter"
[03:18] <babolatpdtp> anyone?
[03:18] <Black_Daemon> well, in any case, I have all the c++ source files
[03:19] <Black_Daemon> so... it SHOULD work for me too
[03:19] <Black_Daemon> and the Makefile looks good to me
[03:19] <amsterdam_> hmm
[03:19] <amsterdam_> so, what is the extension of the project file?
[03:20] <Black_Daemon> it's .cpp
[03:20] <amsterdam_> that's the source file extension
[03:20] <Black_Daemon> ohhh
[03:20] <amsterdam_> I mean the file which you use to manage the project
[03:20] <Black_Daemon> um
[03:20] <Black_Daemon> I'm just using vim xD
[03:20] <amsterdam_> ah ok
[03:20] <Black_Daemon> and a makefile
[03:20] <amsterdam_> so, your friend is using an IDE
[03:20] <amsterdam_> and you're using Vim?
[03:20] <Black_Daemon> so far
[03:21] <amsterdam_> ok
[03:21] <amsterdam_> I take it he's on OSX and you're using Linux right?
[03:21] <Black_Daemon> to be honest, it's only been him who's done anything. We've only just started
[03:21] <Black_Daemon> yes
[03:21] <amsterdam_> ok
[03:21] <amsterdam_> how well do you know C++, if you don't mind me asking, and what compiler is he using on OSX? GCC?
[03:21] <Snowie> wilee-nilee, Your my new hero bud. thank you so much. now that i have my repo's fixed, i can finally try working on my Roland A-300 pro midi controller. wish me luck :)
[03:21] <Black_Daemon> well
[03:22] <Black_Daemon> at my school we use C a lot of the time, and some classes you use c++
[03:22] <amsterdam_> ok
[03:22] <Black_Daemon> I think he's using XCode?
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> Snowie, Cool I saw it was not a ppa, I have seen this on occasion on the channel.
[03:22] <amsterdam_> so, you're familiar with the preprocessor and all that
[03:22] <Black_Daemon> there are comments that he says was automatically generated by XCode
[03:22] <Black_Daemon> yes
[03:22] <amsterdam_> ok
[03:22] <amsterdam_> I'm pretty sure Xcode's default compiler is LLVM
[03:22] <Black_Daemon> hmm
[03:22] <amsterdam_> which, AFAIK, has a few differences than GCC
[03:23] <amsterdam_> which could be why your code is not compiling
[03:23] <Black_Daemon> hmmmmm OK good point
[03:23] <amsterdam_> if I were you, I would both start using GCC
[03:23] <Black_Daemon> I'll ask with him
[03:23] <amsterdam_> kk
[03:24] <amsterdam_> I mean, you can mix compilers, but it's generally better to focus on platform independence first before compiler independence, I think
[03:24] <Black_Daemon> hmmm actually the Makefile says "g++"
[03:24] <amsterdam_> hmm
[03:24] <amsterdam_> well, let me ask you this: are you willing to use an IDE for this project?
[03:25] <Black_Daemon> sure
[03:25] <amsterdam_> ok
[03:25] <Black_Daemon> I don't really care too much; vim is just what I'm used to
[03:25] <amsterdam_> I would suggest you both just use Qt Creator, I think it will eliminate a lot of hassle
[03:25] <SuperMiguel> how do i create a uefi partition in alternate installer???
[03:25] <amsterdam_> Qt Creator has a FakeVim environment which you could use as well
[03:26] <amsterdam_> with all the hjkl movement and command goodies, etc.
[03:26] <top> which project?
[03:26] <Black_Daemon> FakeVim?
[03:26] <Black_Daemon> oh is that where you can do vim commands in the editor?
[03:26] <amsterdam_> yeah
[03:27] <top> I use vim always.
[03:27] <amsterdam_> with the added benefit of code completion, etc.
[03:27] <amsterdam_> top, I like both :)
[03:27] <amsterdam_> either way, if you really just want to use vim, man, and a makefile with some plugins
[03:27] <amsterdam_> make sure he's using an IDE which is cross platform
[03:28] <amsterdam_> because he may have generated the make file himself
[03:28] <amsterdam_> not being aware of certain issues which might come across on linux
[03:28] <amsterdam_> that's just a thought though, don't take my word for it
[03:28] <Black_Daemon> yeah, I thought that may be an issue
[03:29] <amsterdam_> also, Qt has its own build system called Qmake, which is similar to make (it's really just a simpler interface that generates a makefile from it)
[03:29] <EzeQL> hi, when i run "which APP" app path is shown. I want to use another version of APP.  how to do it?
[03:29] <amsterdam_> so, if he uses qmake, it will generate the makefile in the build directory
[03:29] <williamchan_> ok
[03:29] <amsterdam_> which you can use to compile with
[03:29] <amsterdam_> and edit
[03:29] <amsterdam_> etc
[03:29] <amsterdam_> anyway, I need to go
[03:29] <williamchan_> i found out the kernel has a bug on the latest 12.04 after sudo apt-get install
[03:30] <williamchan_> does anyone know schedule when ubuntu 12.04 will sync to the mainline kernel again?
[03:30] <amsterdam_> Black_Daemon, gl. Peace out all
[03:30] <williamchan_> i think the mainline kernel has the bug fix
[03:30] <Black_Daemon> Thanks amsterdam_!
[03:30] <Black_Daemon> <3
[03:30] <amsterdam_> np mang
[03:31] <HardDisk> Evening, anyone have any problems running gadmin-proftpd proftpd in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:31] <HardDisk> or if there are any ftp gui alternatives would be helpful, I have googled, nothing really came up
[03:32] <HardDisk> I get a message Cant allocate enough ram, exiting
[03:33] <klync> while flipping through raw images with geeqie, when i open one with ufraw it looks quite different, even if i make sure all adjustments are zeroed. anyone know what's going on there?
[03:34] <klync> HardDisk: alternatives to what? gftp?
[03:35] <HardDisk> to gadmin-proftpd
[03:35] <HardDisk> or why it's crashing and giving me Cant allocate enough ram, exiting
[03:35] <HardDisk> when i run memory intensive apps just fine and I have 8GB of Ram installed
[03:36] <HardDisk> gtp is a client.
[03:36] <klync> oh. never used it but ... do you run it as root or as your user? tried removing ~/.gadmin-proftpd or similar if it exists?
[03:36] <HardDisk> klync, I have done both, and removed config files
[03:37] <klync> HardDisk: also, if you run it by clicking an icon, see if you can start it from a shell and you may get debug output on the console
[03:37] <ccbn> The clvm package on 12.04 lacks the liblvm2clusterlock.so. Does anyone know the best way to remedy this?
[03:37] <HardDisk> klync, that is the message from shell
[03:38] <HardDisk> I know the basics of debugging a problem, and that's not working.
[03:38] <williamchan_> mainline kernel just posted a bug fix for logitech mouse 4 days ago, how long do i have to wait for it to trickle down to ubuntu kernel for apt-get install?
[03:38] <klync> HardDisk: fair enough
[03:38] <DaemonicApathy> klync: In reference to your question, I believe geeqie and ufraw convert images differently, which will invariably result in different outputs. Though I can't imagine why there might be a significant difference, without examples.
[03:39] <klync> DaemonicApathy: if i can figure out how to take a screenshot, i'll post it ...
[03:40] <OerHeks> klync, maybe this page is any help > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/504629 >>>>> ln -s /lib/lvm2/liblvm2clusterlock.so /lib/liblvm2clusterlock.so
[03:40] <OerHeks> klync, hit the printscreen button :-)
[03:41] <anony> hey guys
[03:41] <klync> OerHeks: well ... I'll be.
[03:41] <anony> anybody know any good streaming sites?
[03:41] <anony> i need to stream gladiator
[03:42] <anony> seriously its fucking late and i been looking forever
[03:42] <HardDisk> anony, vlc
[03:42] <OerHeks> anony, wrong channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !language|anony:
[03:42] <anony> thanks
[03:42] <anony> sorry guys
[03:43] <klync> OerHeks: not sure who that lvm comment was aimed at, but i'm not using that.... thanks for the printscreen tip, tho
[03:43] <ccbn> OerHeks: I think you meant to direct that link at me. The so doesn't exist in that location.
[03:43] <SuperMiguel> when setting up mdraid where do i put /boot
[03:43] <klync> DaemonicApathy: http://i.imgur.com/9nmVi.jpg
[03:43] <SuperMiguel> on a non raid partition?
[03:46] <Snowie> Thanks all. have my repos fixed but that was a sidetrack. What's the best -place to get help with a midi controller on ubuntu
[03:46] <Snowie> ?
[03:46] <DaemonicApathy> klync, assuming ufraw is the maximized window, and geeqie is the smaller one, I would say geeqie still has some work to do on the brightness settings during conversion. I notice they still are not in a 'stable' release.
[03:47] <Snowie> Chat room for music/midi support on linux?
[03:48] <klync> DaemonicApathy: that's reassuring. i haven't tried printing yet - just started using this toolchain rather than the camera's util in windoze and noticed that, wasn't sure which img  to trust
[03:48] <klync> DaemonicApathy: thanks
[03:53] <DaemonicApathy> klync, np
[03:55] <blackshirt> is apt-get depends on wget ?
[03:56] <Snowie> Anyone give me any advice or another chatroom for Midi. I have a device that is detected via lsusb "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0582:010f Roland Corp. A-PRO" but i cant get any gui app to recognise it. Any help or referal greatly appreciated
[03:56] <blackshirt> is apt-get depends on wget ?
[03:57] <DaemonicApathy> blackshirt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/admin/apt
[03:58] <blackshirt> daemonicapathy, what the downloader used by apt?
[04:02] <williamchan_> mainline kernel just posted a bug fix for logitech mouse 4 days ago, how long do i have to wait for it to trickle down to ubuntu kernel for apt-get install?
[04:08] <uw> wtf does ubuntu have a /mnt if they never use it?
[04:08] <uw> everything gets mounted to /media
[04:08] <uw> useless
[04:08] <aeon-ltd> deprecation
[04:08] <purplee> hEllo
[04:08] <aeon-ltd> also some people use it
[04:08] <aeon-ltd> hi
[04:08] <purplee> what good video games are for linuX , can someoneHELP
[04:09] <uw> yup i sure use it
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> purplee: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:09] <uw> but forsome reason everything auto mounts to that dumb media directory
[04:09] <uw> why did that ever come about?
[04:09] <uw> implimenting a media directory
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> well whatever your using to mount media is doing that
[04:09] <blackshirt> uw, usually that was for external media
[04:09] <Stanley00> uw: FSH document may have some points :D
[04:10] <Pigchampion> hello
[04:10] <uw> aeon-ltd, it's a default install.  when it starts up, it mounts the disks to /media
[04:10] <uw> 10.04 did it
[04:10] <uw> and now aparently 12.04 does it too
[04:10] <uw> annoying
[04:11] <Pigchampion> if i install ubuntu along side windows will it delete all my stuff or will ubuntu be able to find all my stuff,im going to be using the wubi installer
[04:11] <aeon-ltd> if you're that annoyed write a script that creates a symlink from /mnt/x to /media/x whenever you mount
[04:11] <blackshirt> thats npt greats
[04:11] <blackshirt> Not
[04:12] <cfhowlett> Pigchampion: wubi is a testing platform not a long-term installation solution.  so sayeth the wubi developers.
[04:12] <aeon-ltd> Pigchampion: depends how you do the wubi, if you install inside windows, ubuntu will be contained in a single file inside a windows diectory
[04:12] <Pigchampion> i mean when i install it will it give me an option to not delete my stuff lol
[04:12] <uw> yea i just change how it mounts altogether.  which is the annoying part because i other scripts that rely on certain locations.
[04:13] <Pigchampion> so partion a part of my hdd
[04:13] <uw> blackshirt, so that was for stuff like USB drives?
[04:14] <DaemonicApathy> uw: The two sections are just purposed differently - /mnt is for manual mounting of devices, and /media is for automatic mounting by the system.
[04:14] <uw> is there a smart way for the system to mount things differently depending if they are usb/sata/pata?
[04:14] <uw> maybe im missing something
[04:15] <DaemonicApathy> Pigchamion, yes. The Ubuntu installer has very clear-cut options with descriptions on whether an option will delete anything.
[04:15] <Pigchampion> k so im fine on installing it without deleting anything
[04:15] <DaemonicApathy> Pigchampion: Quite.
[04:15] <Pigchampion> ok cool
[04:15] <DaemonicApathy> uw: I think you would have to modify that type of thing yourself.
[04:16] <Pigchampion> how long is the install
[04:16] <machicola> does anyone know how I might go about permanently setting my monitor brightness to the lowest setting? Hardware is Asus N61J-Q and I'm running Ubuntu 11.10. I've been using the function+keyboard combo to adjust it every time but it goes back to the brightest setting every time I log back on
[04:16] <DaemonicApathy> Pigchampion: Depends on how much you want to install - updates, third-party software, just barebones OS...
[04:17] <DaemonicApathy> Pigchampion: It also depends on your hardware.
[04:17] <Pigchampion> oh cool
[04:17] <aeon-ltd> machicola: aren't ther hardware controls for that?
[04:17] <uw> DaemonicApathy, i see... but that's still kinda silly right?
[04:17] <uw> i dont know who made that decision
[04:18] <aeon-ltd> machicola: disregard that, didn't know it was a laptop
[04:18] <uw> to put auto mounts and manual mounts in different root directories
[04:18] <uw> probably the gnome3 people
[04:18] <machicola> aeon-ltd, the gnome GUI settings for that do not stay , yeah
[04:19] <machicola> Have tried it through "System Settings"
[04:20] <DaemonicApathy> uw: Looking that deeply into the system, you're bound to find sillier.
[04:20] <ted2012> Hello. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. Is there suppose to be /var/crash/.lock/ dir? can i delete it?
[04:22] <DaemonicApathy> ted2012: I don't have one.
[04:23] <machicola> does anyone know the apt command to update my kernel?
[04:23] <CrypticSquared> man apt
[04:23] <ted2012> DaemonicApathy: My system crashed couple days ago. I had to do hard reboot. I somehow screwed up some settings trying to get rid of unity in ccsm.
[04:23] <CrypticSquared> man apt-get sorry
[04:24] <sambagirl> haha
[04:24] <sambagirl> haha
[04:24] <machicola> should i just update to the latest Kernel?
[04:24] <sambagirl> definately maybe
[04:24] <machicola> lol
[04:24] <CrypticSquared> girlsamba?
[04:24] <machicola> the latest colonel?
[04:24] <machicola> shud i?
[04:25] <machicola> y/n/maybe?
[04:25] <sambagirl> what are you at now?
[04:25] <sambagirl> any specific reason you think you need to?
[04:25] <DaemonicApathy> machicola: I would normally stick with the kernels as they come through regular upfates. Otherwise, you can http://askubuntu.com/questions/119080/how-to-update-kernel-to-the-latest-mainline-version-without-any-distro-upgrade
[04:25] <DaemonicApathy> s/upfates/updates
[04:25] <ultra420> hello,guys,i ssh from A to B, how could i control A via C(who ssh to B);
[04:26] <machicola> ahh, ok... so maybe that's my issue, have been sticking w/11.10 cause I like it but haven't kept up w/kernel updates, ok... thx
[04:26] <vinicius_arq> hello guys need some help with my apple keyboard bluetooth...
[04:26] <sambagirl> I would think M I C K E Y M O U S E Ultra420 now try to sing that :D
[04:26] <machicola> i just wasnt sure if there would be compatibility issues or anything... but o.k.
[04:26] <williamchan_> mainline kernel just posted a bug fix for logitech mouse 4 days ago, how long do i have to wait for it to trickle down to ubuntu kernel for apt-get install?
[04:28] <sambagirl> if your not using a logitec mouse you wouldnt have a reason to do anything then williamchan_
[04:28] <vinicius_arq> ubuntu crashes everytime i try to pair/connect... have u ever seen that?
[04:28] <uw> ...
[04:28] <uw> an apple keyboard?
[04:28] <DaemonicApathy> I've seen lots of problems with Apple keyboards.
[04:29] <vinicius_arq> yeah... apple keyboard on ubuntu
[04:29] <uw> sounds posh.
[04:29] <uw> too bad it doesnt work lol
[04:29] <vinicius_arq> ^
[04:30] <dalton2345> anyone using ttytter?
[04:36] <williamchan_> sambagirl: ?
[04:39] <udoprog> just checking, is there a problem with the ubuntu mirrors?
[04:39] <udoprog> (can't connect to se.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com)
[04:40] <uw> it happens sometimes
[04:40] <williamchan_> cant connect either on my end
[04:41] <uw> Sometimes specific repositories go MIA sometimes too
[04:41] <DaemonicApathy> apt-get update hits those just fine for me
[04:41] <uw> but they should usually come back.... (normally)
[04:41] <udoprog> uw: all right, they just seemed to come back to life
[04:42] <blackshirt> uw, your broadband connections maybe
[04:42] <DaemonicApathy> ubuntu.com/usn is depressing...
[04:42] <uw> it could be, it hasn't been frequent enough for me to really look into it.
[04:43] <uw> and I've noticed it at least 2 locations, but i could have been on my end
[04:43] <uw> lol how so DaemonicApathy
[04:44] <uw> (clicks link)
[04:44] <uw> ohh now i see what you mean
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> <delete delete> Yeah, kinda speaks for itself.
[04:45] <uw> ouch that USN-1608-1 is scary
[04:46] <DaemonicApathy> USN-1611-1 was my pain point.
[04:46] <uw> man there is a slew of them
[04:47] <uw> screw getting any more software D:
[04:47] <blackshirt> uw, why?
[04:47] <uw> all these potential 'sploits
[04:47] <DaemonicApathy> uw: Honestly, I wouldn't worry about those too much.
[04:56] <mihael> hello
[05:03] <Malimbar> question - I installed kubuntu-desktop at some point, and now I'm having trouble removing everythign that it installed. Is there an easy way to do so?
[05:04] <blackshirt> malimbar, kubuntu or gnome shares a same tool with apt-get/aptitude to do packages management
[05:04] <crizis> Malimbar, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[05:05] <Malimbar> crizis, Thanks! that looks perfect.
[05:05] <BuisSse> Would the default route and SNAT cause problems if I have 2 WAN interfaces?
[05:05] <Malimbar> and wow that's a lot of things to remove. This will be fun
[05:06] <crizis> it should be pretty safe anyways, it does install ubuntu-desktop + deps back too if anything gets removed
[05:07] <Malimbar> It's suprising these aren't all removed when simply uninstalling kubuntu-desktop
[05:07] <crizis> that's just a meta-package
[05:10] <pishguy> hi all, all of system package manager is hangup
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> pishguy: more details
[05:22] <|Anthony|> using pidgin to connect to google talk my microphone cuts out to others, but using the google talk plugin it is fine
[05:22] <|Anthony|> any suggestions?
[05:22] <Dragonster82> What do you mean by cuts out?
[05:23] <|Anthony|> well, others report that my audio cuts in and out mid sentence
[05:23] <|Anthony|> but only with pidgin. using the gtalk plugin it is fine
[05:24] <disappearedng> Anyone know why locate wouldn't look into /etc/apache/php.ini? I did run /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb
[05:25] <machicola> If I have an intel i7 should I be updating my linux kernel with the amd64 or the i386 .deb packages?
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> are you running 64 or 32bit?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> machicola: if you installed 32 use 32.
[05:25] <machicola> 64 bit
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> amd64
[05:25] <machicola> ahh, so i386 coincides with 32, ok thanks
[05:26] <machicola> have to reinstall again :-(
[05:26] <Dragonster82> Are you using the push and talk button Anthony? Because from my experience you have to hold the button for 1 second before speaking.
[05:26] <|Anthony|> Dragonster82, i'm using a webcam
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> any package can kill a process that rises memory can freezes desktop?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> like a auto xkill or something
[05:30] <Dragonster82> @Anthony you're talking about your microphone, right? So what are you trying to say with your webcam?
[05:31] <|Anthony|> the mic is built into the webcam
[05:32] <|Anthony|> when using pidgin to connect to google talk, my audio out to others is erratic. It cuts in and out.
[05:33] <|Anthony|> it's not to loud, or to quiet (as reported by others) just that it cuts out randomly
[05:33] <|Anthony|> but if i use the google talk plugin, all is well
[05:34] <Dragonster82> @Anthony I might know your problem. Are you using something like the voice activation setting?
[05:34] <|Anthony|> what is that?
[05:34] <Dragonster82> The one that enables your microphone in the webcam everytime you speak.
[05:35] <Dragonster82> It "detects" your voice through volume levels and activates it.
[05:36] <Dragonster82> @Anthony if you have that option available, change it to Push-To-Talk or something else, because voice activation is never the good choice unless your hand is really full and unable to push buttons
[05:37] <GabrialDestruir> I'm having an issue with my sound, the speakers stop working after it sleeps and I can't seem to find a way to reactivate them.
[05:37] <HaltingState> Bug!!! There is no taskbar in ubuntu anymore
[05:37] <|Anthony|> Tools > Voice/Video Setting > Microphone Test > Silence Threshold = 0%
[05:37] <Dragonster82> Okay, Anthony, what are you using to chat now?
[05:37] <Dragonster82> PidGin?
[05:37] <|Anthony|> xchat
[05:37] <Dragonster82> No as in microphone
[05:38] <|Anthony|> pidgin
[05:38] <Dragonster82> Hang on I'll download it, give me a moment.
[05:39] <Dragonster82> Pidgin Internet Messenger, am I right?
[05:39] <|Anthony|> www.pidgin.im
[05:40] <Dragonster82> Hang on Anthony.
[05:43] <Josh> Well, I've compiled a library, How do I move it to place where all the default libs are?
[05:43] <uw> anyone ever use that thing that's like windows registry?
[05:43] <uw> where you can edit things and stuff
[05:43] <uw> ugh i cant remember it's name
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> uw:this is an ubuntu support chat
[05:43] <|Anthony|> gconf
[05:44] <uw> gconf thats it
[05:44] <uw> thanks anthony
[05:44] <Josh> |Anthony|, any idea?
[05:45] <|Anthony|> what library is it?
[05:46] <Dragonster82> Anthony what is your gmail email
[05:46] <Dragonster82> I want to add you.
[05:46] <Josh> |Anthony|, Asset import library
[05:46] <|Anthony|> Josh, i think it depends on where the program that uses it will look for it
[05:47] <|Anthony|> could be /usr/lib
[05:47] <Josh> ah thats the path I wanted
[05:47] <Josh> The program is written by me btw
[05:49] <Dragonster82> @Anthony I've tried pidgin, but there is no tools > Voice/Video settings
[05:50] <bluefox83> ok, i have a ubuntu 12.04 server box that's not connecting to the internet but it's able to connect to the LAN and ping the router...all my google searches have come up useless...
[05:52] <bluefox83> !static
[05:52] <bluefox83> !staticip
[05:52] <bluefox83> bot doesn't know anything :(
[05:54] <DaemonicApathy> Dragonster82: Tools > Plugins > Voice/Video settings
[05:54] <Fernest> when does 12.10 come out? (Have to install Linux on a new Laptop and don't know if it is better to wait until 12.10 or to install 12.04. Is it easy to upgrade or is it better to install a fresh copy?)
[05:54] <DaemonicApathy> 10/18, iirc Fernest
[05:55] <Fernest> oh
[05:55] <DaemonicApathy> If you're impatient, you can install it now, and update it once it's official.
[05:56] <Fernest> Will it be complicated?
[05:56] <DaemonicApathy> No more than usual.
[05:56] <Fernest> I am kinda very new to linux
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Fernest: stick with LTS releases 12.04
[05:56] <Fernest> so I don't know how difficult usual is
[05:56] <Fernest> ok
[05:57] <uw> ok, for 12.04, how can i change it so the file path is text, not gay little windows
[05:57] <uw> sorry
[05:57] <DaemonicApathy> Make CD or USB to boot from, install OS, win.
[05:57] <uw> little windows rather
[05:57] <uw> this is in the file browser
[05:58] <bluefox83> uw: clcik on go and then location
[05:58] <bluefox83> *click
[05:58] <|Anthony|> bluefox83, is it a possible router issue?
[05:58] <uw> thanks bluefox83
[05:58] <uw> now this will stay right?
[05:59] <bluefox83> |Anthony|: how would i know that? there are two other machines using the wifi on it that are connecting just fine...
[05:59] <bluefox83> uw: no idea
[05:59] <uw> nope, it doesnt
[05:59] <DaemonicApathy> uw: You can always hit Ctrl+L to have those little windows turn into the text path.
[05:59] <uw> thats on the right track though thanks bluefox83
[06:00] <bluefox83> i don't like the little button things either, i prefer the paths
[06:00] <uw> DaemonicApathy, thanks again.  do you know a way i can have it so it does that by default?
[06:00] <DaemonicApathy> In retrospect, my suggestion is the exact shortcut for Go>Location...
[06:00] <bluefox83> lol
[06:00] <DaemonicApathy> uw: I'm orking on that...
[06:01] <uw> i believe it was a setting in gconf before...
[06:01] <uw> because i remember having to do this in 10.04
[06:01] <uw> but it looks like gconf doesnt work anymore so i dunno what to do
[06:03] <bluefox83> i accidentally restarted my router while trying to fix this and still i can't get the box to connect to the net. I've got it set to a static IP so i can run an ftp server for my web dev class but it's not letting it connect to the net!
[06:04] <|Anthony|> bluefox83, the router has to set the static ip
[06:05] <DaemonicApathy> uw: Try from Terminal, "gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true"
[06:05] <suigeneris> hi
[06:05] <bluefox83> |Anthony|: static IP is set by the OS, not the router
[06:05] <|Anthony|> bluefox83, let the server accept whatever ip the router assigns, and tell the router to assign the server a static ip
[06:05] <Sazpaimon> I have this old sed script that isnt working anymore: s/[[:<:]]NULL[[:>:]]/\\N/g. I'm getting "Invalid character class name" now. Has something changed in the last x years that broke this?
[06:06] <bluefox83> and now for whatever reason i restarted the machine and the second hard drive is not mounting...what the heck
[06:06] <Dragonster82> You can configure what you want your static IP is through the localhost
[06:06] <Dragonster82> By default it is 192.168.1.1
[06:06] <suigeneris> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda1  /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: hd0 appears to contain a reiserfs filesystem which isn't known to reserve space for DOS-style boot.  Installing GRUB there could result in FILESYSTEM DESTRUCTION if valuable data is overwritten by grub-setup (--skip-fs-probe disables this check, use at your own risk). <--- what doe this mean?
[06:06] <bluefox83> |Anthony|: my router doesn't do that
[06:06] <suigeneris> ./dev/sda1 contains reiserfs
[06:07] <|Anthony|> bluefox83, i suggest a better router/firewall if you're opening a server to the interwebs ;)
[06:07] <|Anthony|> honestly
[06:07] <DaemonicApathy> It means two things, suigeneris...
[06:07] <suigeneris> Sazpaimon: #sed might know
[06:07] <uw> DaemonicApathy, nice man thanks.  I was just getting to where gconf is being replaced by gsettings
[06:08] <uw> thanks for saving me some time again
[06:08] <DaemonicApathy> 1. You should familiarize yourself with http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and 2. That partition has a filesystem that may not work well with GRUB.
[06:08] <DaemonicApathy> uw: I do what I can, when I can. :-)
[06:08] <Sazpaimon> suigeneris, yeah i guess I'll ask there and see if I get a response tomorrow
[06:08] <suigeneris> DaemonicApathy: /dev/sda1 contains reiserfs
[06:09] <suigeneris> brb
[06:13] <stukie> Hello? :o
[06:13] <cfhowlett> stukie: greetings
[06:13] <stukie> Hello chfhowlett, if ever I need to ask some question about ubuntu
[06:13] <stukie> am I at the right place?
[06:14] <L3top> yes stukie.
[06:14] <cfhowlett> stukie: yes you are.  Ask here or on ubuntu forums
[06:14] <DaemonicApathy> Asking Google before UF can avoid duplicate posts.
[06:14] <stukie> Ohhh, hmmm,
[06:15] <stukie> well, I have question regarding the wacom
[06:15] <stukie> specifically, installing the pen pressure
[06:15] <cfhowlett> stukie: ask ...\
[06:15] <stukie> I've followed this instruction made by Favux
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !ask|stukie:
[06:15] <stukie> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=110408
[06:15] <DaemonicApathy> No need to lead in - sudden questions are SOP.
[06:15] <stukie> Sorry, noted ubottu. It's my first time here
[06:16] <stukie> Well, the problem here is, when I plugged the wacom CTL-460, my PC frozen
[06:19] <stukie> Problem: my PC freeze when I plugged Wacom Bamboo CTL-460. How do I fix this? I did the number 1 and 2 (http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=110408) but my suddenly crashed after I made 1 and 2
[06:19] <the_dark_knight> hi
[06:19] <paul_> vig,  hi
[06:19] <vig> paul_: hello
[06:20] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: You should never install grub's boot sector to a partition, even less so when that partition contains a reiserfs filesystem. Install grub's boot sector to the MBR, "/dev/sda".
[06:22] <stukie> Can you elaborate it Jordan?
[06:22] <stukie> I am noobies when it comes to Ubuntu ._.
[06:23] <blackshirt> stukie, a lot of peoples here share the same problems with you..
[06:23] <WeThePeople> do not use the sda1 to install grub use sda cuz its mbr
[06:24] <blackshirt> Stukie, so, just keep polite and learning
[06:24] <stukie> ohhh, hmm, I don't understand the grub, sda and mbr. Let me research it first
[06:24] <WeThePeople> kudos to who ever told me lol
[06:24] <stukie> so that I won't cause inconvenience to you :). Thanks blackshirt, will note it
[06:24] <DaemonicApathy> stukie, Jordan_U was addressing someone else's question.
[06:25] <WeThePeople> me either
[06:25] <stukie> I am confused @_@ Sorry about that
[06:25] <blackshirt> stukie, sda was refers to some disk, and mbr was part of your disk
[06:26] <DaemonicApathy> stukie: I apologize for any intrusion, but I sent you a (hopefully) helpful quote from the page you linked, privately.
[06:26] <stukie> I get it, MBR is like your main disk used to install OS
[06:27] <Kartagis> DaemonicApathy: I'm the guy who had grub issues like 20 minutes ago (suigeneris). FYI, update-grub2 worked
[06:27] <Jordan_U> stukie: My statement was not directed at you, which is why I prefaced it with the nick "suigeneris" and not "stukie". Not that there is any problem with you being curious about what I meant, but I hope it's clear now that it was not advice directed toward you.
[06:28] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do you start a web service on ubuntu ?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Did you see my response?
[06:28] <DaemonicApathy> Kartagis: Ah, excellent. I always forget about that.
[06:28] <stukie> Sorry Jordan, will check it properly next time before I message
[06:28] <Jordan_U> stukie: Np :)
[06:28] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: which one?
[06:29] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: apparently not ;)
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: suigeneris: You should never install grub's boot sector to a partition, even less so when that partition contains a reiserfs filesystem. Install grub's boot sector to the MBR, "/dev/sda".
[06:29] <jalexandru> is the "diff" command strong enough to compare any type of files? or files containing binaries will not report correct?
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: And I recommend that next time you say you'll "brb" that you join using the same nick :)
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: update-grub doesn't install grub, it only re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[06:30] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: right, I was stuck with suigeneris because this is my BNC nick
[06:31] <Onixs_> Kartagis is here!
[06:31] <Kartagis> Onixs_!
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Do you understand?
[06:34] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: yea, I understand. my problem is if I do something (anything), I tend to forget how it's done the next time I need it
[06:35] <Kartagis> I've done this chroot stuff before
[06:35] <Kartagis> I can miss even the basics
[06:35] <blackshirt> kartagis, you shoul make own notes
[06:35] <blackshirt> should
[06:36] <Onixs_> it really you Kartagis . No doubt about it
[06:36] <Onixs_> 100%
[06:36] <Kartagis> Onixs_: yea, from #lion
[06:38] <GabrialDestruir> I have a Lenovo G560 and for some reason, the sound lately has been screwed up on it, the speakers don't work, but headphones still work fine. Any idea why this might be?
[06:40] <neeraj> hello
[06:41] <neeraj> how to connect nokia x2-01 to ubuntu 12.04 for internet browsing
[06:43] <fatninja> how do I restart named ? I have the proc : bind     18414  0.0  0.1 682628 40360 ?        Ssl  Oct11   0:12 /usr/sbin/named -u bind
[06:43] <fatninja> But service named restart, bind restart don't work
[06:43] <fatninja> Also, they are not present in /etc/init.d
[06:43] <fatninja> do I kill it and start it manually ?
[06:44] <blackshirt> fatninja, service bind9 restart
[06:45] <fatninja> correct
[06:45] <fatninja> thanks :)
[06:46] <sasuke> hi guys
[06:54] <bluefox83> does the installer have a repair feature for networking?
[06:55] <bodom> Hi there. I have a problem with console: they are way more lines that what can fit my monitor, can anybody help me?
[06:55] <wols_> don't think so. what is your networking problem?
[06:56] <bluefox83> wols_: eh, static routing isn't working right, i can ping the router, and can ssh into the box, but it can't seem to get past the router. and the router isn't logging any attempts from it
[06:58] <bluefox83> wols_: trying to ping www.google.com gets me "ping: unknown host www.google.com"
[06:59] <bluefox83> aaaaahaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:59] <bluefox83> this is driving me batty D:
[06:59] <Guest61007> can't login normally to Ubuntu 3.2.0.32 due to a graphical glitch, I have to use 3.2.0.31 instead.
[06:59] <blackshirt> !ot | bluefox83
[07:00] <Onixs-> bluefox83:  check DNS
[07:00] <bluefox83> Onixs-: how?
[07:01] <blackshirt> !info iproute2
[07:01] <Onixs-> are you kidding me ?
[07:01] <bluefox83> no, where should i check the dns entry? i added new ones to interfaces...
[07:01] <bluefox83> and it's still not working
[07:03] <bluefox83> really D:
[07:03] <bluefox83> Onixs-: wb
[07:04] <wols_> bluefox83: ping 8.8.8.8
[07:04] <Guest61007> Hi guys sorry. can't login normally to Ubuntu 3.2.0.32 due to a graphical glitch, I have to use 3.2.0.31 instead. I am not sure what to do...
[07:04] <bluefox83> no packet loss...lets see if i can apt-get upgrade
[07:05] <blackshirt> is ubottu can understand the command's manual
[07:05] <DaemonicApathy> ubottu doesn't understand anything.
[07:05] <bluefox83> temporary failure resolving "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[07:06] <blackshirt> daemonicapathy, i mean, just for manual of commandd, like we issuing $man apt-get
[07:06] <bluefox83> sooooo what's the problem with it not letting me update?
[07:06] <wols_> bluefox83: so you can ping 8.8.8.8 successfully?
[07:06] <DaemonicApathy> ubottu's whole life, blackshirt: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <bluefox83> wols_: yeah, but can't update or upgrade?
[07:07] <bluefox83> keeps failing now
[07:07] <blackshirt> bluefox83, are you relying on proxy?
[07:07] <bluefox83> blackshirt: noooooo
[07:08] <timfrost> bluefox83: can you look up other DNS names - what does 'host  www.google.com' output?
[07:08] <bluefox83> i dunno, holdon
[07:08] <wols_> bluefox83: then your DNS resolver is fubar
[07:08] <wols_> do you use DHCP or static IPs?
[07:08] <blackshirt> bluefox83, try using different repository
[07:09] <bluefox83> static, and i got a bunch of replies for those addresses...i think the problem might be in apt O.o
[07:09] <blackshirt> i don't think so
[07:10] <bluefox83> uh...guess what, i did that first host thing on my laptop...i just ran it on the server box and it failed...
[07:10] <Onixs-> bluefox83
[07:10] <bluefox83> no servers could be reached
[07:10] <bluefox83> Onixs-: yes?
[07:10] <Onixs-> ;what error do you get when pinging google
[07:11] <bluefox83> ping: unknown host www.google.com
[07:11] <Onixs-> like wols_ said
[07:11] <Kartagis> bluefox83: show us route -n
[07:12] <bluefox83> should i paste it?
[07:12] <bluefox83> or get a pastey site thing?
[07:12] <Cnythnk> bluefox83, i had the same 'error' and check my /etc/resolv.conf - which was empty, and added following line: "namesever 192.168.0.1 (your gateway/router)
[07:12] <Onixs-> ^^
[07:13] <wols_> bluefox83: DHCP or static IP?
[07:13] <Cnythnk> nameserver*
[07:13] <bluefox83> wols_: static ip
[07:13] <timfrost> bluefox83: check the name server settings on the server - that error from ping means that /etc/resolv.conf doesn't list any valid servers see the comment from  Cnythnk
[07:13] <wols_> bluefox83: set via /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:13] <blackshirt> bluefox83, maybe you gets problem with your dns server
[07:14] <Onixs-> bluefox83 : if you set static manually, you must also set gateway/dns manually
[07:14] <bluefox83> blackshirt: i use the same dns server for my entire network...
[07:15] <blackshirt> bluefox83, can you reach your gateway ?
[07:15] <bluefox83> yeah
[07:15] <bluefox83> i can ping it
[07:15] <Onixs-> ofcourse
[07:15] <bluefox83> gateway is my router, right?
[07:15] <someprimetime> is there a good site to find bash color profiles?
[07:16] <someprimetime> i want to switch mine up, but i keep finding nothing for ubuntu
[07:16] <Cnythnk> bluefox83, did you check your /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:16] <bluefox83> yeah
[07:16] <blackshirt> bluefoux83, what's about your default route ?
[07:16] <bluefox83> blackshirt: what?
[07:16] <devDistro> Hi!
[07:17] <devDistro> You can find out, Unity DE supports other UNIX-like systems?
[07:17] <timfrost> bluefox83: can you !pastebin the output of 'dig www.google.com' on the server?
[07:18] <bluefox83> what the heck is dig?
[07:18] <bluefox83> that dig command just sits there...
[07:19] <Guest61007> any one to help? :-( I am stuck guys
[07:19] <wols_> dig is the tool to query DNS servers
[07:19] <bluefox83> well it timed out...
[07:19] <wols_> bluefox83: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:19] <Onixs-> bluefox83 : DNS issue
[07:20] <Onixs-> hence the stuck
[07:20] <wols_> Guest61007: what videodriver?
[07:20] <bluefox83> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:20] <bluefox83> search sssnet.com
[07:20] <Guest61007> Hello wols and thank you - AMD driver downloaded from AMD site
[07:21] <bluefox83> how do i fix the dns issue?
[07:21] <wols_> Guest61007: and that's why. it's a bad thing to do that
[07:21] <Guest61007> Well it worked fine for some time
[07:21] <wols_> bluefox83: 192.168.1.1 is your router?
[07:22] <bluefox83> wols_: yeah
[07:22] <Guest61007> and I am logged in Ubuntu but using kernel 0.31
[07:22] <Guest61007> The issue is with kernel 0.32
[07:22] <wols_> Guest61007: sure. it's still a stupid thing to do. so don't do it and use the ubuntu provided drivers or it will happen everytime you get a new kernel or a new X version
[07:22] <wols_> Guest61007: no, the issue is you installing drivers the wrong way
[07:22] <Guest61007> OK so what can I do then?
[07:23] <bluefox83> wols_: sooo...should i not be pointing it to my router?
[07:24] <wols_> Guest61007: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:25] <bluefox83> i'm so dang confused >.>
[07:25] <wols_> bluefox83: dig @8.8.8.8 freenode.org
[07:26] <bluefox83> that worked...
[07:27] <Guest61007> I can't log to kernel 0.32 wols...how do I do that?
[07:27] <Guest61007> Do I do it from where I am right now (kernel 0.31)?
[07:27] <bluefox83> soooo...should i change my dns or something O.o
[07:27] <wols_> Guest61007: yes you can
[07:27] <wols_> bluefox83: dig @192.168.1.1 freenode.org
[07:27] <Guest61007> When I press ctrl/alt/F1 nothing happens
[07:27] <wols_> bluefox83: the thing is to find out why your current DNS server is not working
[07:28] <bluefox83> could nto be reached
[07:28] <bluefox83> *not
[07:28] <bodom> anyone?
[07:28] <wols_> bluefox83: but you can ping 192.168.1.1?
[07:28] <bluefox83> yeah
[07:28] <wols_> strange :(
[07:29] <timfrost> !anyone |  bodom
[07:29] <wols_> you could set your DNS server to 8.8.8.8 (a google DNS server). but that's a workaround and not a real solution
[07:29] <bluefox83> 0% packet loss when pinging 192.168.1.1
[07:29] <bodom> timfrost: so i should repost?
[07:29] <Guest61007> I see the ubuntu loading screen then bam, purple/brown blank colour
[07:29] <bluefox83> i have my router set to use my isp's nameservers...
[07:29] <Onixs-> bluefox83 : are you on the same network where ubuntu is connected ?
[07:29] <timfrost> bodom: ask the question
[07:30] <bluefox83> yeah
[07:30] <bodom> timfrost: i've asked it 10 mins agon :)
[07:30] <bodom> I have a problem with console: they are way more lines that what can fit my monitor, can anybody help me?
[07:30] <Onixs-> find out the gateway/dns of that comp you are using
[07:30] <bluefox83> how should i do that?
[07:30] <ghabit> Hello. How to delete unnecessary packages? (old dependencies, not needed any more)?
[07:31] <Onixs-> ifconfig
[07:31] <bluefox83> i'm running 12.04 on this laptop :)
[07:31] <bodom> ghabit: apt-get --purge autoremove
[07:31] <bluefox83> k
[07:31] <nocturnal_> how can i change the default resolution of my tty?
[07:31] <blackshirt> ghabit, apt-get autoremove would do that
[07:31] <ghabit> bodom, blackshirt, thanks!
[07:32] <timfrost> blackshirt: --purge also deletes configuration data
[07:32] <bluefox83> uh, everything is the same (except the laptop is on wifi (wlan0) and the server is using LAN (eth0) )
[07:33] <hash_> So i just installed a second optical drive, is there anything else i need to do to get it running
[07:33] <blackshirt> timfrost, yes, i know
[07:33] <hash_> or how do i get the drivers i need that i dont know what they are
[07:33] <Onixs-> bluefox83 : lets do basic, restart
[07:34] <bluefox83> Onixs-: done that many times
[07:34] <MrBushido> anybody know if the official ati drivers have been included in the 12.10 beta yet?
[07:34] <Cnythnk> bluefox83 could you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces conf. file
[07:34] <Onixs-> pastebin your interfaces and resolv.conf
[07:35] <bluefox83> from which machine? the server or laptop?
[07:35] <Cnythnk> the ubuntu one
[07:35] <hash_> How do i detect my new optical drive and then download the drivers for it
[07:35] <timfrost> bodom: most text consoles are 80 col x 25 (or 24) lines,   what are you doing that can't cope with that setting?
[07:35] <blackshirt> hash_, usually, you don't need them
[07:36] <hash_> blackshirt,  ah alright, i wasnt sure
[07:36] <bodom> timfrost: it looks like mine is something like 80x50 lines, where the last 25 lines are not displayed on my monitor
[07:36] <wols_> hash_: optical drives don't need drivers, just like harddisks don't
[07:37] <hash_> really when i added an optical on windows it added new drivers
[07:38] <timfrost> bodom: X terminal, or vty?  Does something set the LINES environment variable?
[07:38] <bluefox83> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jdDBM8yf
[07:38] <hash_> I just wanted to double check I know linux has a lot of generic drivers included
[07:38] <bluefox83> hash_: ubuntu is not windows ;)
[07:38] <blackshirt> hash_, just look the system output, if your devices detected or handled
[07:39] <hash_> bluefox83, yes and thats y i like it
[07:39] <bluefox83> pop a disk in the new drive, if it's working it'll automatically ask what to do with it
[07:39] <hash_> yeah y didnt i think of that
[07:40] <bluefox83> lol
[07:40] <Onixs-> bluefox83:  remove dns entry
[07:40] <Onixs-> put it in resolv
[07:41] <bluefox83> how do i put it in resolv?
[07:41] <hash_> Haha blank disk showed up, now if i had any blurays to test it
[07:41] <bluefox83> just pop it in resolv.conf?
[07:41] <Zorlin> How do I sign out of Ubuntu Software Center?
[07:41] <Zorlin> I signed into the wrong email :/
[07:41] <Cnythnk> didnt you edit your resolv.conf file before?
[07:42] <bodom> timfrost: vty, looks like you got it: $LINES is set to 50, didn't knew about it
[07:42] <hash_> blackshirt, how do i bring up my system output
[07:43] <Cnythnk> remove the line as Onixs- said in the interface, edit your /etc/resolv.conf and add your following lines: nameserver 24.140.1.100
[07:43] <Cnythnk> nameserver 24.140.1.101
[07:43] <Onixs-> and btw bluefox83 : use the ip of your router as your dns
[07:43] <Onixs-> router will handle dns
[07:43] <bluefox83> k
[07:43] <Cnythnk> ah yes enough to write nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:44] <juniour> hi
[07:46] <blackshirt> hi juniour
[07:46] <bluefox83> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3dRwVNSd
[07:46] <Cnythnk> pastebin your reslov.conf
[07:46] <bluefox83> that's what happens after i do that stuff and try to restart networking >.>
[07:47] <juniour> hi guys i am getting error in running apache server
[07:47] <juniour> help
[07:47] <juniour>  me
[07:48] <gordonjcp> !help | juniour
[07:48] <juniour> * Restarting web server apache2                                                /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: 87: ulimit: error setting limit (Operation not permitted)
[07:48] <bluefox83> nameserver 24.140.1.100 24.140.1.101
[07:48] <bluefox83> search sssnet.com
[07:48] <juniour> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[07:48] <juniour> /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: 87: ulimit: error setting limit (Operation not permitted)
[07:48] <juniour> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[07:48] <Cnythnk> bluefox83, no
[07:48] <juniour> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[07:48] <bluefox83> that's the entirety of my resolv.conf
[07:48] <Cnythnk> just write
[07:48] <juniour> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[07:48] <juniour> Unable to open logs
[07:48] <FloodBot1> juniour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:48] <Cnythnk> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:48] <bluefox83> oooooh
[07:49] <Zorlin> is there any way to remove my login credentials on the software center?
[07:49] <juniour> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282630/
[07:49] <juniour> guys help me
[07:49] <gordonjcp> juniour: sounds like you're not starting it as root
[07:50] <juniour> nope i am starting using sudo
[07:50] <bluefox83> ok, so then do i put the dns-nameserver thingy in interfaces too?
[07:50] <Cnythnk> no
[07:50] <Zorlin> I need to change the Launchpad SSO profile it's using
[07:50] <Zorlin> in order to be able to download a paid app
[07:51] <hash_> is there any programs similar to lightscribe
[07:51] <Onixs-> lol
[07:52] <bluefox83> i don't get iiiiiiiiitttttttt
[07:52] <bluefox83> why is this thing still not working?
[07:52] <Onixs-> bluefox83 : nameserver
[07:52] <bluefox83> Onixs-: what about it?
[07:52] <Onixs-> NOT dns-nameserver
[07:52] <bluefox83> JUST nameserver?
[07:53] <Cnythnk> bluefox83: http://pastebin.com/kJTfCa4F
[07:53] <Cnythnk> like that
[07:53] <Vichu> Hi Everyone Good Day.. I am new to ubuntu.. can smone pls help me with the moniter britness problem... the thing is my screen brightness is always high..
[07:55] <juniour> Vichu system setting->brightness and lock
[07:55] <Vichu> @juniour: I tried but still its not workin
[07:56] <juniour> Vichu you will get there a scale to increas or decrease brightness
[07:57] <bluefox83> Cnythnk: ok, and how should i restart my networking to get this working, because sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   doesn't seem to be working...
[07:57] <Danawar> hey ubuntu
[07:57] <Danawar> im my cron tab i have :
[07:57] <Danawar> * * * * * root mysql -### -### phpbb < /home/danawar/scripts/forumupdater.sql
[07:57] <Danawar> * * * * * root screen -x plotcreative -X stuff "`printf "say pex reload\r"`";
[07:57] <Danawar> but it does not seem to run the second command
[07:57] <Danawar> if i run the second command through a terminal window it runs
[07:58] <Vichu> Juniour: yea thats rite.. I tried to slide the scale.. but still no use.. the brightness is still the same.. :(
[07:58] <bluefox83> this is rediculous how mlong it's taking to fix this :(
[07:58] <mpathy> What is the current state of btrfs in Ubuntu 12.04 or the Version coming up? I like the new features, the good performance with dmcrypt, compression mode and the good overall ssd support etc. so I am tempted to use it in my new installation..
[07:58] <Cnythnk> bluefox83, you got the same error, no such process or whatver?
[07:58] <bluefox83> Cnythnk: yep :(
[07:59] <Onixs-> sudo ifdown eth0
[07:59] <Onixs-> sudo ifup eth0
[07:59] <Onixs-> and echeck if its really eth0
[08:01] <heikki_> eof
[08:02] <hash_> how do i bring up my system output
[08:02] <juniour> hash_ wt?
[08:02] <wols_> hash_: what kind of system output
[08:03] <hash_> for the optic drives i guess
[08:03] <juniour> hash_ wt you want to do with opticl drives
[08:05] <Onixs-> bluefox83
[08:05] <bluefox83> ok...well that did nothing
[08:05] <iDangerMouse> Hm
[08:05] <Onixs-> getting that error usuall is a typo somehwre
[08:05] <Onixs-> usually*
[08:05] <mpathy> nobody has a clue about btrfs in Ubuntu?
[08:06] <bluefox83> Onixs-: a typo where?
[08:06] <iDangerMouse> mpathy: I don't use abbreviations, what is it.
[08:06] <Onixs-> bluefox83 : : somewhere along lines inside interfaces or resolv
[08:06] <auronandace> mpathy: still considered experimental
[08:08] <Onixs-> gtg.. next time
[08:10] <uw> sorry ubunt 12.04 has experienced an internal error
[08:10] <uw> try restarting the computer
[08:10] <uw> WTF
[08:10] <iDangerMouse> huh
[08:11] <uw> yea i installed 7z and it's corupted or something
[08:11] <uw> crashes
[08:11] <uw> terrib
[08:11] <uw> e
[08:11] <FloodBot1> uw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <iDangerMouse> uw: What does it do ?
[08:12] <iDangerMouse> Explain
[08:12] <uw> sorry Sir honorable FloodBot1 the 1st
[08:12] <natsukao> hi
[08:12] <uw> one sec i might have done something else
[08:12] <rumpe1> uw, maybe it's corrupt, maybe you got more serious trouble. Check your logs.
[08:12] <natsukao> a friend did a cd to me under windows 7
[08:13] <uw> warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[08:13] <natsukao> i turned back at home and i serched to do start on the computer
[08:13] <uw> i dont like the sound of that
[08:13] <natsukao> it says: Cannot mount volume
[08:13] <iDangerMouse> uw: Well VMware works for me.
[08:14] <natsukao> Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[08:14] <natsukao> i did sudo /mount /dev/cdrom /mnt
[08:14] <iDangerMouse> That's why VMware is recommended, VirtualBox does have issues.
[08:14] <uw> ohh ok so i believe it is fixed
[08:14] <natsukao> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:14] <natsukao> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[08:15] <natsukao> what can i do ?
[08:15] <iDangerMouse> natsukao: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82103
[08:15] <iDangerMouse> See if this helps
[08:16] <uw> so i clicked on 7z, said not found and offered to download something called p7zip.  that program aparently does nothing or is broken.  installing p7zip-full works as it should
[08:16] <uw> so it's just a problem with that little helper dealy that trys to download the correct program for you
[08:17] <iDangerMouse> uw: Why can't you get VMware ?
[08:17] <uw> iDangerMouse, what's wrong with vbox?
[08:18] <iDangerMouse> uw: Tends to have glitches. VWmare is flawless.
[08:18] <wols_> iDangerMouse: virtualbox is part of ubunut, vmware is not
[08:18] <wols_> and the "flawless" part is ridiculous. thanks for the laughs
[08:18] <iDangerMouse> wols_: VirtualBox on Windows 7 is horrible.
[08:18] <uw> plus vmware had some legal/political gayness sometime ago that pissed me off
[08:18] <wols_> iDangerMouse: please learn to read channel names. thank you
[08:19] <mpathy> auronandace: Yes but it will be the only file system actively developed in future, there is sure no ext5.. And if it is unstable or not you can ask people and everyone say sth other :)
[08:19] <juniour> iDangerMouse virtualbox works fine on windows 7
[08:19] <uw> not to say that oracle is an saint or anything...but they redid their licencing structure or something about how you have to pay per guest or something
[08:20] <uw> fk that vbox works fine for me
[08:20] <juniour> iDangerMouse virtualbox works like charm on windows 7
[08:20] <iDangerMouse> juniour: Which edition of Windows 7 are you referring to?
[08:20] <auronandace> mpathy: when it is used by default then it is considered stable (unless explicitly stated otherwise)
[08:20] <uw> has VT-X support, usb passthrough, file sharing cap.  good enough
[08:20] <juniour> iDangerMouse ultimate
[08:20] <iDangerMouse> juniour: 64bit Professional got glitches.
[08:21] <juniour> iDangerMouse wt the issue you are facing
[08:21] <iDangerMouse> It's not recommended on 64
[08:21] <iDangerMouse> Bit Home Premium either.
[08:22] <juniour> iDangerMouse it not like that it works fine in 64 bit but you have to use 32 bit iso for guest
[08:22] <iDangerMouse> juniour: Well I have tried it dedicating it 2 GB of Ram, 40 GB of Virtual HDD, and Installed the Guest Add-ons.
[08:22] <juniour> kk
[08:22] <iDangerMouse> Was quiet slow.
[08:22] <juniour> iDangerMouse so wt just happen
[08:23] <auronandace> !ot
[08:23] <iDangerMouse> Ubuntu Studio doesn't run well on it.
[08:23] <juniour> iDangerMouse which os you are installing
[08:23] <iDangerMouse> KUbuntu worked fine.
[08:23] <juniour> iDangerMouse in virtual box and wt is the real size of your system
[08:24] <natsukao> ~$ sudo mount -t iso9660  -r /dev/cdrom /mnt
[08:24] <natsukao> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[08:24] <iDangerMouse> asus laptop g75vw
[08:24] <sere> anyone know why my  usb laser mouse works find in x86 but in 64bet my mouse it choppy and slow to respond ....tried accouple mouses and same result...on a labtop
[08:24] <juniour> iDangerMouse ram size
[08:24] <iDangerMouse> 12GB
[08:24] <juniour> kkk
[08:25] <juniour> and the guset os you want to install
[08:25] <iDangerMouse> Ubuntu Studio.
[08:25] <iDangerMouse> Ubuntu worked flawless on my Galaxy S2.
[08:25] <juniour> k
[08:26] <juniour> i also use ubuntu in vbox its work fines
[08:26] <DaemonicApathy> I honestly can't wait for Ubuntu to finish their proposed Android hybrid system.
[08:26] <juniour> like mey be some time it stuck but its ok
[08:27] <juniour> you know vbox takes less memory than vmware
[08:27] <iDangerMouse> True.
[08:27] <iDangerMouse> And it's free :P
[08:27] <juniour> yepp
[08:27] <natsukao> the problem is not the fs or the cd/dvd unit
[08:27] <juniour> :)
[08:27] <natsukao> the problem is the session closed with windows 7
[08:28] <natsukao> i charged just now the cd of ubuntu and it works fine
[08:28] <natsukao> the cd that i did
[08:28] <natsukao> and it works fine without problems
[08:29] <sere> noone hase had this before...come on guys i neeed help
[08:29] <onats> anyone using openstack here?
[08:29] <sere> anyone know why my  usb laser mouse works find in x86 but in 64bet my mouse it choppy and slow to respond ....tried accouple mouses and same result...on a labtop
[08:29] <iDangerMouse> juniour: Ubuntu tablet :( Sighs make one. Get me one.
[08:29] <natsukao> laser mouse ?
[08:29] <DaemonicApathy> sere: is your machine equipped to run x64?
[08:30] <sere> its quad core i believe
[08:30] <DaemonicApathy> What's the model, sere?
[08:30] <juniour> iDangerMouse wt???
[08:30] <rchavik> hi guys... running 12.04 lts 64bit.  did a mv Music/* (on ext3) to another partition (btrfs) and the machine slows down to a crawl.  what's causing this?
[08:31] <DaemonicApathy> rchavik: Do you have a lot of stuff in ~/Music?
[08:31] <genera> disk or usb flash?
[08:31] <ikonia> rchavik: poor I/O, using the experimental file system ? slow disk ? could be anything
[08:31] <ikonia> bad indexing
[08:31] <sere> ubuntu 64bit 12.04 with microsoft lasermouse 5000
[08:31] <HardDisk> juniour, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/ubuntu-tablet-to-compete-with-android-ios
[08:31] <DaemonicApathy> sere: The laptop model.
[08:32] <juniour> HardDidk wt???
[08:32] <sere> DaemonicApathy, inperion m5010
[08:32] <rchavik> DaemonicApathy, about 3Gs..
[08:32] <ikonia> juniour: could you please stop saying wt??? if you have a question, or something that is not clear, ask it clearly
[08:32] <leotr> how many seconds faster (average value) will the boot process be if i compile custom kernel with only required drivers?
[08:32] <rchavik> ikonia, isn't btrfs default ?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> rchavik: ext4 is ubuntu default filesystem
[08:33] <rchavik> duh
[08:33] <juniour> ikona i am not asking some one asking me something so i just tell wt for more clear explatation
[08:34] <ikonia> rchavik: no
[08:34] <ikonia> juniour: so ask clearly
[08:34] <ikonia> juniour: just saying wt??? means nothing, and you keep saying it
[08:35] <rchavik> ikonia, cfhowlett i must have confused it with other distro.. okay then..
[08:36] <DaemonicApathy> sere: You're all set for 64-bit OSes, so all I can think of is that the available drivers for the mouse are only optimized for x86. does the touchpad work alright?
[08:36] <jalexandru> how can help me with mercurial -> I'm new to this ...
[08:38] <iDangerMouse> Isn't "muslimbuntu" a bit offensive, mixing religion, and OS.
[08:38] <sere> DaemonicApathy, i think they are 64 but ill check again
[08:39] <sere> DaemonicApathy, the touchpad is perfect
[08:39] <hasy> why the loopback MTU:16436 <--- that big
[08:41] <DaemonicApathy> Sere: I can only suggest that you remove the usb dongle, make sure the port and dongle are free of dust, and reinsert the dongle. If it's still buggy, remove the dongle one more time, throw it and the mouse in the trash, and get a good Logitech mouse. :-)
[08:42] <sere> DaemonicApathy,   thought it might be the mouse so switched to my logitech still no joy
[08:42] <sere> and ive tried otther ports :/
[08:54] <rchavik> is there a way to move the root fs to another partition quickly (without going through the install process) ?
[08:55] <SystemParadox> morning all. A couple of my services are not starting on boot, despite symlinks being present and everything working when started manually. There is nothing in dmesg, syslog or boot.log. Where else can I look and how can I verify that init is even bothering to try? Thanks
[09:00] <linuxsage> running ip route list shows I have 2 interface named eth1 with different ip addresses assigned to each, is this an issue
[09:01] <wols_> linuxsage: can you pastebin the output
[09:01] <wols_> cause it'd be kinda hard to do that
[09:03] <Josh> If I have C D E and system reserve as Primary partitions, so I cannot create another partition, not even extended
[09:03] <_cronus_> linuxsage, you can have multiple ip on an iterface. that's normal
[09:03] <Josh> Therefore, I'll have to format one of my existing partitions.
[09:03] <Josh> But someone told me that, I can't only format say, D and make it extended
[09:03] <Josh> So, I wanted to ask, I can or I cannot?
[09:03] <stukie> Guys, any clue of solving the blackout screen after inserting USB Device?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|stukie:
[09:04] <Josh> The person told me, if I want to format the partition, I'll have to format both D and E partitions.
[09:04] <wols_> Josh: you can move the last partition to an extended partition even, without needing to format anything.
[09:04] <Josh> I can?
[09:04] <Josh> How?
[09:04] <wols_> gparted
[09:04] <Josh> wols_, For that I need an extended partition
[09:05] <Josh> I don't have extended partition.
[09:05] <stukie> Thanks
[09:05] <Josh> Thats the main problem
[09:05] <stukie> let me find my Ubuntu CD then
[09:05] <wols_> Josh: you CREATE one
[09:05] <wols_> and yes you can do it
[09:05] <Josh> wols_, I cannot, as I already have 4 primary partitions.
[09:05] <wols_> you can if you use gparted to do it
[09:05] <Josh> I do have gparted.
[09:06] <Josh> and gparted is telling me, I already have 4 primary partitions.
[09:06] <Josh> System Reserved, C D and E
[09:06] <stukie> Oh yeah, I forgot. the USB Device I am talking about is Wacom Bamboo Tablet (CTL-460). After I plugged it, the screen black out. Is setting nomodset still apply?
[09:06] <linuxsage> wols: this is the output "10.1.128.23/22 dev eth1  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.1.129.133" ,I am running inside a internal network
[09:06] <linuxsage> XX.XXX.X.X/16 dev eth1  scope link  metric 1000
[09:06] <Josh> wols_, can you convert primary partition to Extended?
[09:06] <Josh> Nope, unless you format.
[09:06] <Josh> But the question is, Is it have to be the last partition, that is E
[09:07] <Josh> or I can just format D and format it newly as extended.
[09:07] <wols_> Josh: wrong. but since you obviously are hopeless, I stop here. have a nice day formatting
[09:07] <Josh> This is not a very good thing to say.
[09:07] <Josh> But, I've never in particular asked YOU for help
[09:07]  * Josh shrugs.
[09:09] <wols_> linuxsage: this output doesn't show what you claim. check "ifconfig -a" it shows you all available interfaces and IPs assigned if any
[09:13] <gustafbstrom> hi
[09:14] <cfhowlett> gustafbstrom: greetings
[09:14] <gustafbstrom> this is my first time at ubuntu room
[09:14] <gustafbstrom> question: has anyone seen a good binary package for gnu radio component?
[09:15] <gustafbstrom> some dpkg
[09:17] <llutz> gustafbstrom: you already know http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/DebianPackages ?
[09:19] <llutz> gustafbstrom: but you'd better build it yourself as shown in the gnuradio-wiki
[09:21] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install gnuradio
[09:21] <llutz> !info gnuradio
[09:21] <gustafbstrom> llutz: thanks. the reason i ask is that building myself requires a lot of pretty large *-dev packages
[09:21] <llutz> unlikely IdleOne
[09:22] <IdleOne> llutz: appears it is in 12.10
[09:22] <llutz> !info gnuradio quantal
[09:22] <gustafbstrom> and the official debian package page tells me to ignore that page.
[09:22] <llutz> gustafbstrom: so wait for 12.10
[09:23] <gustafbstrom> llutz: ok, thank you!
[09:24] <Calinou> or use PPAs, or compile it yourself..
[09:26] <llutz> gustafbstrom: there is a ppa at https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/gnuradio , just not the latest version
[09:30] <IdleOne> llutz: probably safer for him to use http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/InstallingGR#Using-the-build-gnuradio-script /me is not a fan of PPA's
[09:31] <llutz> IdleOne: but if he cares to install all those -dev packags...
[09:31] <llutz> even using the script, they will be pulled in
[09:32] <IdleOne> right, but who knows what was changed in that PPA
[09:32] <llutz> correct, thus: wait a few day for 12.10
[09:32] <llutz> days
[09:32] <IdleOne> llutz: I'm a little paranoid at times. ^ best advice
[09:32] <crizis> 2 days.. :)
[09:33] <llutz> !info rtl-sdr quantal
[09:33] <Tonius> Hi all! How to turn off black screen in my ubuntu 12.04 server without GUI ? ) (sorry for my broken english)
[09:34] <wols_> Tonius: why the screen black?
[09:35] <Tonius> when I do not touch any key... after 5 minutes is become black/ like screensaver
[09:36] <Tonius> i think is very bad idea - using screensaver on server
[09:37] <crizis> since when servers have monitors anyway..
[09:37] <crizis> Tonius, http://askubuntu.com/questions/138918/how-do-i-disable-the-blank-console-screensaver-on-ubuntu-server
[09:38] <Tonius> crizis thank you!!!
[09:39] <nitin1> Hello,  I just upgraded to 12.10 beta, and the first thing I noticed that my messaging menu is missing. Can someone help ?
[09:40] <Cristen> Hi everyone, using find with xargs I managed to retrieve a list of folders of the form : folder1/folder2, how can I cp the result in folder 1?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> Cristen  find blah | xargs cp foldername
[09:57] <Celso> Hi all!  Sommeone here still having problems with the wireless chip Realtek RTL 8187?
[10:01] <Celso> Sommeone here still having problems with the wireless chip Realtek RTL 8187?
[10:03] <profiler1982> best irc cient is?
[10:03] <auronandace> !poll | profiler1982
[10:09] <nitin1> where can I ask questions about Ubuntu 12.10?
[10:09] <DJones> nitin1: #ubuntu+1 until final release
[10:09] <auronandace> nitin1: #ubuntu+1
[10:10] <nitin1> thanks auronandace, DJones
[10:11] <Celso> @nitin1 go to askubuntu website
[10:12] <Man> what is ubuntu?
[10:12] <sfsf32> ubuntu nerd edition is about to be released
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> Man  it's an operating system that makes your pc work
[10:13] <Man> is it possible to use internet there?
[10:13] <sfsf32> no
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> Man  sure
[10:13] <auronandace> !ubuntu | Man
[10:13] <Man> and is it also possible to find all the hardware drivers too?
[10:13] <sfsf32> no
[10:13] <Celso> @Man http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> sfsf32  don't be funny here, join some other channel
[10:13] <Man> because I' really new in computer and I saw some people are using that.
[10:13] <sfsf32> windows is much better
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> sfsf32  wrong channel
[10:14] <Man> how to install that?
[10:14] <auronandace> !install | Man
[10:14] <Celso> @Man well, i curently use ubuntu for at least 6 years, and have no plans to change operating system
[10:15] <Man> perhaps I'm bothering all of you asking a lot but I really want to know.
[10:16] <Man> is that linux operating system?
[10:16] <Celso> @Man Feel free to ask what you want. not bothering at all
[10:16] <Man> thanks friend
[10:16] <auronandace> Man: linux is the kernel yes
[10:19] <[x]> how to unrar
[10:19] <auronandace> !rar | [x]
[10:19] <Celso> @ Man: Before install it, i advise to try it from the cd or the usb  see: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> Man  find Nixie Pixel on Youtube, she can explain everything to you, or most things
[10:21] <khussein78> i want to got number of packets and bytes on specific tcp port while I am running some tests, which command can do this ?
[10:24] <llutz> khussein78: check "iftop"
[10:25] <llutz> khussein78: or iptraf
[10:28] <tryy3|Coding> ´Oct 16 14:26:09 (1350383169) danted[21686]: symbolfunction(): compiletime configuration error?  Failed to open "libc.so": /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so: invalid ELF header´ can anyone please help me?
[10:29] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: are you on 64bit?
[10:30] <GrusDroid> \conference
[10:32] <Guest3184> has anyone tried 64bit 12.04lts server
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest12381  why do you ask? what's your question?
[10:33] <Shadow``> * Guest3184 (~anonymous@212.183.128.131) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[10:34] <GrusDroid> That was an irc trial ... learning
[10:34] <ThinkT510> !test | GrusDroid
[10:35] <notyou> could i make something like a pendrive but using cd for booting ubuntu
[10:35] <ThinkT510> notyou: a livecd?
[10:37] <dr_willis> you can put the cd inage om a usb and boot that notyou
[10:38] <ThinkT510> notyou: if you mean to use a cd to boot a usb (because bios doesn't support it) then yes you can, i've never done it though so i couldn't help sorry
[10:39] <khussein78> llutz, how to tell iptraf to watch specified TCP port , I did not find it in it man page
[10:40] <notyou> ThinkT510: i mind, there is an option which can choose how to computer boot with. and i want to boot ubuntu with cd/dvd
[10:40] <notyou> ThinkT510: can i create the cd/dvd which can boot the ubuntu. because i don't want to buy it
[10:40] <notyou> ThinkT510: hehehe
[10:41] <khussein78> llutz, also I need to store the output in file, can I redirect it to a file ?
[10:41] <ThinkT510> notyou: sure, just make a livecd and boot from it (make sure the bios is set to boot the cd)
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> notyou  download it,put it on cd or usb, boot from it
[10:41] <llutz> khussein78: filter - tcp - define new filter
[10:42] <notyou> ow, i understand now thanks a lot all
[10:44] <llutz> khussein78: iirc iptraf logs to /var/log/something
[10:49] <n1> whatt's the extension of the particular file to be installed within the whole instalation package (like .exe in win)?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> n1  there's no such thing in linux
[10:49] <ThinkT510> n1: extentions don't really matter in linux
[10:49] <ThinkT510> !deb | n1
[10:50] <n1> yes, though on that terminal I lack net connection and doing it to instal the dongle connection
[10:50] <n1> gdebi it is
[10:51] <n1> so, in the terminal I have to write the path to the main folder containig gdebi files?
[10:51] <n1> ...when installing
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> n1  in the terminal, use dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:52] <n1> it returns error
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> n1  start from the beginning, what are you trying to do
[10:53] <n1> extracted gdebi in the home folder
[10:54] <n1> and when installing with dpkg command, returns error
[10:54] <ThinkT510> MonkeyDust: sounds like he's trying to install his dongle for internet access
[10:59] <wakeLan> hi!
[10:59] <wakeLan> if i do a sudo poweroff...qhat runlevel am i using?
[10:59] <wols_> n1: you should stop being fixated on gdebi. it's a simple, not very useful, frontend to dpkg
[11:00] <wols_> n1: what package are you trying to install? what is the full filename?
[11:00] <wols_> wakeLan: rephrase your question please
[11:01] <wakeLan> wols_: i am trying to use wakeonlan...i made some changes on rc6 and rc0....if i do a sudo poweroff...i can wakeonlan that computer....if i shudown using the menu entry...it does not wake
[11:03] <wols_> afaik both should go to rc6
[11:05] <n1_> MonkeyDust the error: n1n0@lap:~$ sudo dpkg -i '/home/n1n0/gdebi-0.8.5ubuntu1 '  [sudo] password for n1n0:  dpkg-split: error: error reading /home/n1n0/gdebi-0.8.5ubuntu1 : Is a directory dpkg: error processing /home/n1n0/gdebi-0.8.5ubuntu1  (--install):  subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing:  /home/n1n0/gdebi-0.8.5ubuntu1
[11:05] <wols_> n1_: ls -l /home/n1n0/gdebi-0.8.5ubuntu1*
[11:06] <n1_> is the another command for the installation?
[11:06] <n1_> with or without sudo at the beginning?
[11:07] <Foca_> Hi, i'm use Ubuntu 12.04 and my connection is 800k when i start one download the Ubuntu get all connection for download the file why ?
[11:07] <crizis> .. what?
[11:08] <wols_> n1_: no sudo. it shows what this file you want to install actually is
[11:08] <wakeLan> wols_: why is it actind differenty then?
[11:08] <wols_> wakeLan: dunno, sorry
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> wakeLan  there's also ##networking
[11:11] <llutz> wakeLan: try explicitly setting WoL on with "/sbin/ethtool -s ethX wol g" in a short script like /etc/network/if-down.d/wol
[11:12] <wakeLan> llutz: thank you...did it ages ago :)
[11:13] <llutz> wakeLan: and it still doesn't work?
[11:13] <wakeLan> no...
[11:13] <wakeLan> i would like to know what command does exactly run the poweroff red button applet you can add to gnome panels
[11:14] <wakeLan> and what command does it exactly run when you click Shutdown entry on the menu appearing when you press the power off button of my computer
[11:14] <n1> wols with ls -l returns this: ls -l '/home/n1n0/gdebi-0.8.5ubuntu1 '  total 68 -rw-r--r-- 1 n1n0 n1n0   160 Ruj 22 15:20 AUTHORS -rw-r--r-- 1 n1n0 n1n0 17987 Ruj 22 15:20 COPYING drwxr-xr-x 2 n1n0 n1n0  4096 Ruj 22 15:21 data drwxr-xr-x 3 n1n0 n1n0  4096 Ruj 22 15:21 debian -rwxr-xr-x 1 n1n0 n1n0  4022 Ruj 22 15:20 gdebi drwxr-xr-x 2 n1n0 n1n0  4096 Ruj 22 15:39 GDebi -rwxr-xr-x 1 n1n0 n1n0  3426 Ruj 22 15:20 gdebi-gtk -rwxr-xr-x 1 n1n0 
[11:14] <wakeLan> because clearly, it's not poweroff command
[11:15] <e1nh4nd3r> So hey.  I updated kernels over the weekend on my Elitebook 8560p and now I can't use my dock and multi-monitor set-up.  How do I go about reverting the kernel to the previous version?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> wakeLan  there's also e.g. sudo shutdown -h now         explore the shutdown command
[11:18] <acidflash> auto eth0
[11:18] <acidflash> iface eth0 inet static
[11:18] <acidflash> what are my other options instead of auto ?
[11:18] <llutz> acidflash: "man 5 interfaces"
[11:18] <acidflash> ok
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> acidflash  better don't mess with it if you don't know what you are doing
[11:19] <acidflash> MonkeyDust: I know what I want to do, adn what im doing, just not sure what the man page was called :D
[11:21] <BoozeWooz> hei
[11:22] <BoozeWooz> ~___~ from booring no talk here
[11:25] <BoozeWooz> ~______________________________________________________~
[11:25] <llutz> BoozeWooz: stop that please
[11:25] <BoozeWooz> ok sorry
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> BoozeWooz  did you have an ubuntu question?
[11:26] <BoozeWooz> do you know any stuff from selinux?
[11:26] <BoozeWooz> it said on the ubuntu pages its not supported, but an older version is supported
[11:26] <BoozeWooz> (selinux-basics), so i installed that but it doesnt seem to have muc heffect
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> BoozeWooz  some 90 people in #selinux
[11:27] <BoozeWooz> oo it has its own irc? i go there, thanks!
[11:27] <blackshirt> boozewooz, you should activated it, and relabelling your file system
[11:28] <BoozeWooz> activate? relabel?
[11:29] <blackshirt> join  #selinux
[11:29] <BoozeWooz> i go there
[11:29] <blackshirt> like monkeydust said before
[11:29] <BoozeWooz> http://selinuxproject.org/page/Guide/Installation
[11:29] <BoozeWooz> yes i found this but its
[11:29] <BoozeWooz> no gui :D
[11:30] <BoozeWooz> but ill ask there, thanks!
[11:30] <blackshirt> yes, no gui..you should learn it
[11:30] <BoozeWooz> :( i use some other stuff (fedora) and it did have..
[11:30] <blackshirt> fedora still the best for learning selinux system
[11:31] <blackshirt> they included some nice gui frontend
[11:31] <BoozeWooz> yes :D its the one i want!!
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> !selinux
[11:31] <BoozeWooz> but the OS is not so good to be honest :S their packet manager is horrible
[11:32] <blackshirt> thats very relative
[11:32] <BoozeWooz> hmm but thats why theres so many distro, everyone want something :P
[11:34] <blackshirt> you can learn something even on cli based
[11:37] <BoozeWooz> data transmission - please wait
[11:43] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 sry for late respond, lemme check
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:44] <harshad> ubuntu seems more crowded then debian rooms
[11:45] <jpds> harshad: Price of being popular.
[11:45] <harshad> is there any binary deb of hiphop-php?
[11:45] <ThinkT510> !find hiphop
[11:45] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 yes iam
[11:46] <BoozeWooz> interestings
[11:46] <harshad> @jpds or maybe it is price of having too many bugs :)
[11:46] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: why are you trying to load a 32bit header?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> harshad  i had never heard of and don't know what it does, but there's this http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-install-hiphop-for-php-on-ubuntu/
[11:47] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 :S idk, i just tryed to start a proxy with dental-server :S
[11:48] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: is dental-server 32bit?
[11:48] <harshad> @monkeydust hiphop for php is facebooks tool that compiles php code to native C++ thus enabling faster execution of php code
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> ah, facebook, don't have that
[11:49]  * lotuspsychje neither
[11:49] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 dont belive so, i installed it a few min ago on my 64bit dedi though that was debian but i dont think that will matter :S
[11:49] <harshad> excuse me but i do not know how to reply to chats..i rarely hang on irc
[11:49] <crizis> *developed by facebook
[11:49] <crizis> open source tool
[11:49] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: we only support ubuntu here, never mix ubuntu and debian packages
[11:50] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 i dont mix it, iam trying to install it on my vps that is ubuntu, and i used apt-get install to get it...
[11:50] <noob4life> hello
[11:50] <harshad> @crizis yes, its that same tool developed by facebook
[11:50] <noob4life> Can i ask some questions about ubuntu/
[11:50] <noob4life> ?
[11:50] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: ah, sorry, misunderstood your previous statement
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> !ask | noob4life
[11:50] <rsser> where is badwave?
[11:51] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 i thought you would, its okej :D
[11:51] <noob4life> lol
[11:51] <harshad> !noob4life ask
[11:51] <noob4life> fair enough just trying to be polite
[11:51] <Cristen> How do you replace strings with special characters using sed ? I tried escaping everything but it doesn't work : http://pastie.org/private/ptpgxgv2cwvnecc6fzuq where am I wrong ?
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> Cristen  found this snippet http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282921/
[11:53] <rsser> how can I run the non bash script?
[11:54] <rsser> the script is #!/bin/bash
[11:54] <truexfan81> that is a bash script
[11:54] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 should i try to reinstall libc or what should i do?
[11:54] <Cristen> MonkeyDust I don't want to replace the special characters actually I want to replace the whole string containing special characters
[11:54] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: no idea sorry
[11:54] <rsser> the system says: /bin/bash^M: invalid compiler: file or directory missing
[11:55] <rsser> truexfan81, how to fix that?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> rsser  there's also #bash
[11:55] <truexfan81> rsser: need to find and install whatever its missing
[11:55] <Gnea> rsser: #!/bin/sh
[11:55] <llutz> !info dos2unix | rsser    recode it, it has DOS-lineendings
[11:55] <rsser> thanks, Gnea
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> noob4life:did your question dissapear? :p
[11:56] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 should i reask the question and see if someone else helps me?
[11:56] <rsser> Gnea, why is that happened?
[11:56] <Gnea> rsser: dos2unix should fix it too
[11:56] <ThinkT510> tryy3|Coding: sure, that's what the channel is for
[11:56] <rsser> ?
[11:56] <rsser> isn't DOS M$ systems?
[11:56] <tryy3|Coding> ThinkT510 k :D
[11:56] <tryy3|Coding> ´Oct 16 14:26:09 (1350383169) danted[21686]: symbolfunction(): compiletime configuration error?  Failed to open "libc.so": /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so: invalid ELF header´ can anyone please help me?
[11:56] <Gnea> rsser: because someone wrote the script in notepad, probably
[11:57] <Gnea> rsser: yes, but there are systems like cygwin that allow you to run shell scripts in windows
[11:57] <rsser> hum
[11:57] <rsser> okay
[11:58] <rsser> if i edit the file on gedit could the problem be solved?
[11:58] <rsser> despite of changing, there are still  error
[11:59] <Gnea> rsser: no, just install dos2unix and run the script through it - that'll fix it
[12:00] <TJ-> tryy3|Coding: see bug 67085
[12:00] <rsser> Gnea, could you see the script?
[12:00] <TJ-> tryy3|Coding: sorry, typo, ignore that... try this one bug 767085
[12:00] <Gnea> rsser: huh?
[12:00] <rsser> Gnea, look that ==> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7570113/linux-kernel-3.6.1
[12:01] <rsser> I'd like to update my kernel from 3.2 to  3.6.1 version
[12:01] <tryy3|Coding> TJ- so update libc6?
[12:01] <Gnea> rsser: iacon% file linux-kernel-3.6.1.txt
[12:01] <Gnea> linux-kernel-3.6.1.txt: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable, with CRLF line terminators
[12:02] <Gnea> rsser: "with CRLF line terminators"  <-- that.
[12:02] <ThinkT510> rsser: that can be done either via ppa or compiling (neither of which are officially supported here)
[12:02] <ThinkT510> rsser: any reason you need 3.6.1?
[12:03] <amos__> ActionParsnip
[12:03] <rsser> ThinkT510, test, I'm sort of beta tester
[12:03] <rsser> I love the newest
[12:03] <ThinkT510> !latest | rsser
[12:03] <rsser> ThinkT510, I know about that
[12:03] <TJ-> rsser: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds
[12:04] <Gnea> rsser: so just dos2unix linux-kernel-3.6.1.txt
[12:04] <ThinkT510> rsser: if you always want the latest then perhaps ubuntu isn't what you are looking for
[12:04] <rsser> I don't want offend you, but I don't care about stability. The installation is for test
[12:04] <rsser> I have a Vm for that
[12:04] <rsser> yes, Gnea
[12:04] <Gnea> ThinkT510: it's not really our place to judge how someone uses their system in a case like this.
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> is ubuntu safe for the new jacksbot trojan? http://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/new-multiplatform-backdoor-jacksbot-discovered/
[12:05] <rsser> I got it what you meant
[12:05] <ThinkT510> rsser: good stuff, vms are great testing grounds
[12:05] <khussein78> I am running KVM and installed CentOS 6 as guest , I want to monitor network traffic on centos by iptraf, but it show no TCP packets ? i used bridge mode
[12:05] <khussein78> KVM running on ubuntu 12.04
[12:05] <rsser> ThinkT510, sorry for my ignorancy
[12:05] <rsser> but I like to use vm for that
[12:05] <ThinkT510> rsser: no worries
[12:06] <Gnea> rsser: I've always found that using the real hardware is better to test with in a non-professional setting
[12:06] <rsser> Gnea, good point
[12:06] <Gnea> just make sure to keep a livecd handy :)
[12:06] <rsser> yeah, Gnea
[12:07] <rsser> it is working now
[12:07] <rsser> the problem was like you said
[12:07] <rsser> CF's of windows
[12:07] <rsser> Gnea, everyone knows about that, why does the problem persist?
[12:07] <amos__> hi guyz av noticd that the printer in ubuntu aint working can some one help me please???
[12:07] <rsser> why does no one fix this cf's problem?
[12:08] <Gnea> rsser: well, you just did
[12:08] <rsser> or isn't this a real problem?
[12:08] <Gnea> that's the solution: if you run across one, you run it through dos2unix
[12:08] <DrDamnit> on ubuntu server, how do I change the video mode to a lower mode via ssh? I can ssh into the box, but the monitor is not responding to the video mode (I see it during post, but once the server comes up, the screen goes blank).
[12:08] <WeThePeople> where would i find a copy of the hosts file??
[12:08] <Gnea> rsser: not really, it's more of a nuissance than anything else, but there's nothing specifically against such distribution.
[12:08] <rsser> so, but I meant it's why doesn't system recognize CF's automatically?
[12:08] <Gnea> WeThePeople: in /etc
[12:09] <Gnea> rsser: because they're inefficient and they're m$-specific? can't think of why else...
[12:09] <bazhang> amos__, check linuxprinting.org database First
[12:10] <WeThePeople> gnea, i didnt see a .bak file for it there
[12:10] <rsser> hehe, Gnea
[12:10] <ThinkT510> WeThePeople: you deleted the hosts file?
[12:11] <WeThePeople> thinkt510, yes
[12:11] <bazhang> rsser, what is your ubuntu support issue
[12:11] <ThinkT510> WeThePeople: then you need to make a new one
[12:11] <WeThePeople> thinkt510, what does that look like
[12:11] <WeThePeople> ?
[12:11] <rsser> Gnea, but wouldn't the right the carry jump to the next line and move to left?
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[12:12] <bazhang> rsser, ?
[12:13] <auronandace> WeThePeople: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1282946/
[12:13] <auronandace> WeThePeople: that's mine
[12:13] <rsser> bazhang, I don't know, let's find out
[12:13] <rsser> it's installing, bazhang
[12:13] <auronandace> WeThePeople: your machine name will be different (mine is revo70)
[12:13] <bazhang> rsser, this is for ubuntu support only
[12:13] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic rsser
[12:14] <rsser> bazhang, I want to explore the ubuntu
[12:14] <rsser> how is that?
[12:14] <rsser> I'm updating the kernel
[12:14] <WeThePeople> auronandace, thanks, the internet wasnt working because of this
[12:14] <rsser> how is off topic?
[12:14] <bazhang> rsser, no need for a minute by minute update of that exploration here
[12:14] <rsser> I'm updating the kernel for ubuntu 12.04
[12:14] <ThinkT510> WeThePeople: no worries (my other nick)
[12:14] <bazhang> rsser, to what version, and from where
[12:16] <rsser> I think you are worried about what is or isn't on topic issue! :D
[12:16] <rsser> bazhang, relax a little
[12:16]  * lotuspsychje hides
[12:16] <bazhang> rsser, please answer my question
[12:19] <louiemat> newbee here can anyone tell me how to share documents across the computer
[12:19] <ThinkT510> louiemat: from and to what?
[12:20] <rsser> what is your question, bazhang? I'm sorry. I'm not an English native. Could you repeat your question?
[12:21] <louiemat> my home computer with multiple systems to share amongst them - legal docs etc
[12:21] <rsser> would you like to know from version to what version that I'm updating?
[12:21] <rsser> ubuntu 12.04 kernel 3.2 to 12.04 kernel 3.6.1
[12:22] <elfenixtorres> aren't you guys afraid of MS being one of the biggest contributors to the kernel?
[12:22] <elfenixtorres> it bother me
[12:22] <elfenixtorres> bothers*
[12:23] <jn_> How can I make new lines when in edit mode in "hnb" if anyone have tried it?
[12:23] <rsser> elfenixtorres, this is worry, because M$ will copy the kernel to put on their system
[12:23] <louiemat> think510 did you see my post reply
[12:23] <davidguard> I just ran an update and my computer crashed and now it stalls when I try to boot. I think the partition for /root is full. How can I free space without booting up? I have booted into MacOS to chat.
[12:23] <ThinkT510> elfenixtorres: the only contributions they make are for the hyperV, which is all gpl
[12:24] <elfenixtorres> hmz, ok, thanks ThinkT510
[12:24] <elfenixtorres> rsser: yeah that's my impression as well -> personal benefit for capitalist means
[12:24] <elfenixtorres> it's ... wrong
[12:24] <wols_> davidguard: you can boot to a live cd and access /root then. however, a full /root will not cause a failed bootup
[12:24] <ThinkT510> louiemat: all ubuntu systems?
[12:25] <louiemat> ? is that a articaleI should read?
[12:25] <rsser> elfenixtorres, since the beginning, when you think something isn't right, you have to fight for...
[12:26] <rsser> the Ubuntu is our flag
[12:26] <ThinkT510> louiemat: are the systems you want to share the docs with all running ubuntu?
[12:26] <Dragonster82> #join minecraft
[12:26] <Dragonster82> Lol
[12:26] <louiemat> ubuntu 12.10 and Pinguy 12.04
[12:26] <Dragonster82> How do I be an operator?
[12:27] <rsser> ?
[12:27] <rsser> Dragonster82?
[12:27] <Dragonster82> Yes Rsser?
[12:27] <rsser> why did you invite us to minecraft channel/
[12:27] <rsser> answer me on pvt
[12:27] <davidguard> wals_: unfortunately when I insert a livecd I'm not given the option to boot from it. I don't know what is preventing it from booting. I just thought it could be /root being full because it appears to be and before it crashed I got messages about not being able to mount an external hard drive due to a partition being full. (The external hard drive has 60GB free).
[12:28] <Pici> rsser: it was a typo, ignore it.
[12:28] <rsser> okay, rsser
[12:28] <Dragonster82> Yes, my mistake.
[12:28] <rsser> davidguard, did you make settings on bios?
[12:28] <rsser> you need to setting boot cd on bios
[12:29] <rsser> or press F8 and select to the boot device
[12:29] <davidguard> rsser: yes. I'm running a dual boot on a Macbook Pro. So it is probably something to do with that.
[12:29] <rsser> I just wondering that problem can be this
[12:30] <davidguard> rsser: I mean the dual boot might be why I can't run a liveCD. I used to be able to until the last time I upgraded. Now I can't
[12:30] <rsser> no, no
[12:31] <rsser> The dual boot does not interfere with boot from the CD.
[12:32] <Dragonster82> Hmmm...
[12:32] <rsser> davidguard, but the your bios settings can be the problem.
[12:32] <rsser> if the boot were setting for start from hard disk, you should change to start from CD
[12:32] <louiemat> can anyone help with my sharing documents between ubuntu 12.10 and Pinguy 12.04 thank you in advance
[12:32] <Dragonster82> Hey guys, how do I "apply" to be an Operator of this channel?
[12:32] <davidguard> rsser: yeah I know. I've set my bios to boot from USB then CD then the hard drive.
[12:33] <Pici> Dragonster82: you should have a pm from ubottu about it.
[12:33] <rsser> Dragonster82, ask on freenode's help channel
[12:33] <Pici> rsser: no.
[12:33] <dr_willis> louiemat:  ssh/sshfs/nfs/samba ;)   details would  help us help you..
[12:33] <Dragonster82> @Pici and rsser I received a PM about it, but I don't see any application form or something at the links.
[12:33] <rsser> overthere,  they will help you
[12:34] <rsser> davidguard, so?
[12:34] <Pici> Dragonster82: Its all in the second link, under the Operator Application Process heading.
[12:34] <davidguard> rsser: with the dual boot screen normally see a CD image I can choose from. But that doesnt come up anymore.
[12:35] <davidguard> rsser: it won't boot from liveCDs or live USBs
[12:35] <louiemat> ssh/sshfs/nfs/samba
[12:35] <rsser> davidguard, if you choose the cd to start on bios, it shouldn't show the dual boot menu. It will show to you boot menu from live CD only.
[12:36] <davidguard> rsser: but it doesn't
[12:36] <rsser> there is something wrong with live cd
[12:36] <rsser> are you already try usb live?
[12:37] <davidguard> rsser: I can't tell you why or how. The Live CD I used worked previously and still works on other machines. And so did the live USB I have
[12:38] <rsser> it can be malfunction on CD/DVD drive
[12:38] <rsser> davidguard, give your mac model
[12:38] <rsser> let me make a research
[12:39] <davidguard> rsser: MacBookPro3,1
[12:41] <Dragonster82> How do I apply to be an OP in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc ?  The second link told me to go to the Ubuntu IRC launchpad website, and so I did. But here it says it doesn't serve any purpose and it tells me to go back to the instructions page.
[12:41] <davidguard> rsser: I've looked through the forums regarding this issue when I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04. In the end I gave up and did an upgrade. I don't like doing upgrades. I usually install the newest version. But that time I couldn't. System's been buggy ever since.
[12:42] <Grifo74> i need a software to mount my isos to emulate a drive to install games??
[12:42]  * dr_willis has been in this channel long enough to know he wouldent want to be an op.   
[12:42] <Dragonster82> @Grifo use daemon tools.
[12:42] <dr_willis> !iso | Grifo74
[12:42] <rsser> humm...
[12:42] <dr_willis> no need for demon tools to install a game via wine
[12:43] <rsser> davidguard, in your case, it's good to follow official tutorials
[12:43] <davidguard> rsser: tutorials for what?
[12:43] <Grifo74> thanks people
[12:44] <rsser> to solve your problem
[12:44] <byc> http://hi.video.sina.com.cn/Poll.php?project_id=5168&id=155
[12:45] <dr_willis> byc no spamming please
[12:45] <davidguard> rsser: I don't know what the problem is. I know the symptom is that it stalls after the ubuntu logo comes up and a series of messages come up the last of which is something about cups but that has [ok] next to it. Then it stops booting.
[12:46] <byc> one click to help my class thankyou
[12:46] <dr_willis> byc no spamming please.......
[12:46] <DJones> byc: Stop that, this is a support channel only
[12:47] <rsser> davidguard, macbook pro is prepare to run macOSX system, you should look on the bios and to set the option to run system non macOSX
[12:47] <billy1> Hello there. My desktop icons only appear when I login via failsafe gnome. Does anybody know how to fix this? 10.04lts. Thanks.
[12:47] <byc> all right sorry for that
[12:47] <rsser> I will see your bios here, wait...
[12:50] <Glorforidor> Ello sexy people! ^^ I was wondering the Developer summit in Copenhagen is it for Monday TO Thursday or Monday AND Thursday?
[12:50] <Glorforidor> Can't really figure it out :O
[12:50] <ThinkT510> billy1: are you running gnome3 on 10.04?
[12:51] <truexfan81> Glorforidor: try #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <billy1> no. I'm running the old gnome2 with nvidia98
[12:51] <billy1> 96... sorry
[12:51] <Glorforidor> kk thanks!
[12:51] <DJones> Glorforidor: Looks to be monday to thursday
[12:51] <ThinkT510> billy1: what do you mean by failsafe gnome?
[12:52] <Glorforidor> Thanks Djones! :)
[12:52] <DJones> Glorforidor: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[12:52] <billy1> I have already tried purging, reinstalling, and reconfiguring xorg, to no avail. I mean, during login time, I need to select failsafe gnome
[12:52] <Glorforidor> Djones you are lovely! :D
[12:53] <billy1> ThinkT510... otherwise, I can't see any icons, can't click on the desktop, and no network monitor/indicator above right, on the panel.
[12:53] <swp> hello, how can I set a system wide proxy in ubuntu. I have changed /etc/environment, and apt seems to be working. I have had to manually enter the settings in XChat to get this working. In Zorin OS for example, there is a GUI program, and I click "Set System Wide" and everything works. How can I get firefox, and xchat to work using the system settings, opposed to entering them manually etc ?
[12:53] <swp> basically, where else do i enter proxy settings in linux to apply system wide, besides /etc/environment
[12:53] <ThinkT510> billy1: sorry i can't help
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> billy1  any reason why you don't upgrade to 12.04 lts ?
[12:54] <billy1> thanks... Think. Well... my machine is really old. I tried 12.04, it looked great, but performance is awful.
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> billy1  you must be the last one the planet who uses 10.04 for desktop
[12:54] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | billy1
[12:55] <amos__> bazhang my printer is okey ita already configured but when is send a job it doesnt print but it shows its completed what might be the prob?
[12:55] <billy1> yes, I've seen that too. I've installed that to my other hd until it crashed a few days ago. 10.04 Gnome2 is really for my machine.
[12:56] <rsser> davidguard, pvt me
[12:56] <truexfan81> billy1: there is the option of installing mate on 12.04 which would give you your gnome2, but you would not be able to get help for it here
[12:56] <ThinkT510> billy1: gnome2 is only supported until april 2013 on 10.04, you'd need to find an alternative by then
[12:57] <Squall5668> billy1: you can use gnome2 with 12.04 though. In any case, what did you last change? did you install proprietary drivers? remove them? upgrade them? Do all of the above
[12:59] <billy1> Besides... my nvidia card is Gforce4, not supported by 12.04. Yes, I'm banking on the deadline... I just might be able to upgrade before the date... I just need it to work a few more months. Squall5668... I've tried 12.04... my video is not supported, and my machine is almost hanging at times. I also tried the pseudo gnome2 desktop... but the machine is just not performing too well.
[12:59] <davidguard> rsser: wait a sec. I don't know how to pvt you using this app...
[12:59] <Gnea> billy1: since when is any Geforce card not supported by 12.04?
[13:00] <billy1> Yes... I know mate. Oh... I'm not sure... I'
[13:00] <rsser> davidguard, what is the app you are using?
[13:00] <davidguard> rsser: colloquy
[13:00] <billy1> I've been hammering google for weeks now... and nothing shows to make it work on 12.04
[13:00] <benza> I am trying to install ubuntu using windows installer, downloads installs but on reboot goes to a black screen and hangs there. I tried holding shift, to try nomodeset but cant do that. I orig installed first time and worked but had no mouse/keyboard so i uninstalled now every time i try install hangs on black screen
[13:00] <billy1> I believe It has been dropped.
[13:00] <VRIL> having problems dual booting 12.04 and windows 7 64bit(both) on GPT
[13:01] <VRIL> anyone else experienced this dilemma?
[13:01] <Gnea> billy1: what's the output from this command: lspci | grep VGA
[13:01] <rsser> davidguard, click twice on my nickname
[13:01] <billy1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)
[13:02] <Gnea> oh my, that IS a bit old... let's see here...
[13:02] <billy1> yeah
[13:02] <XiaolinDraconis> my screen goes crazy when i try to change resolution
[13:02] <VRIL> benza, using a rewritable cd/dvd?
[13:02] <XiaolinDraconis> and when an app changes it as well
[13:03] <benza> vril: im using the windows installer
[13:03] <VRIL> wubi
[13:03] <VRIL> ;/
[13:03] <benza> yeh, is it trash?
[13:03] <VRIL> yeah i dont think i have much of an alternative than to use that...
[13:03] <VRIL> wubi is okay
[13:03] <VRIL> it stays on the windows partition; if you're comfortable with that.
[13:04] <benza> yeah thats fine with me
[13:04] <VRIL> if it works then u should have no problem
[13:04] <VRIL> i myself am having a major issue dual-booting on GPT partitions
[13:04] <benza> it doesnt work, after installer it goes to a black screen :/
[13:04] <VRIL> lol yeah, wubi has failed for me too in the past
[13:04] <Eagleman> How do i include a ta.key in this?   openssl pkcs12 -export -in client.crt -inkey client.key -certfile ca.crt -out client.p12
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> VRIL  benza wubi is a limited pseudo-installtion inside windows, so to say, don't expect too much of it
[13:04] <VRIL> have you tried running it through the compatibility fix and ran as admin?
[13:05] <Redoovius> Quick question (hopefully) ... I have a ASUS 1000HA... and it seems to have deleted the wireless card from itself after using it for literally two years. Any ideas on how to get it back?
[13:05] <truexfan81> Gnea: is there no way to get the nvidia 96 drivers on 12.04? i think that would make his geforce4 work
[13:05] <VRIL> Redoovius, asus drivers support page should have it
[13:05] <Redoovius> For Ubuntu? Really? I never even looked there... that's interesting
[13:05] <VRIL> ohh no not ubuntu lol
[13:06] <VRIL> sorry
[13:06] <Redoovius> Well... we are in an Ubuntu channel, sir. ;P
[13:06] <VRIL> yeah i realized
[13:06] <VRIL> sorry
[13:06] <billy1> for days... I also tried installing gnome2 (the real deal) on 12.04... I ran into problems. Somethings just didn't compute. Things didn't work out well.
[13:06] <Gnea> billy1, truexfan81: 96 ought to do it
[13:06] <VRIL> Redoovius, whens tuff like that happens; i just reformat
[13:07] <Gnea>  GPUs ranging from GeForce series 2 (except for GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro,
[13:07] <Gnea>  GeForce2 Ti and GeForce2 Ultra) to GeForce series 7 are supported.
[13:07] <billy1> So I backedup my data and reformatted. what is truexfan81:96? Is it a driver for my nvidia card?
[13:07] <gordonjcp> Redoovius: do you know what kind of wireless card it is?
[13:07] <Gnea> billy1:
[13:07] <C8H10N4O2> i am trying to run mysql dump "mysqldump -u root -p dbname > dbnam-backup.sql but I keep getting bash: permission denied
[13:07] <Gnea> !info nvidia-glx-96 | billy1
[13:07] <C8H10N4O2> please help
[13:07] <TJ-> Eagleman: Are you trying to set-up OpenVPN with a TLS-auth key?
[13:07] <Gnea> oops
[13:07] <benza> whats linux like on virtual box
[13:07] <Eagleman> TJ- yes for my desire phone
[13:08] <michealPW> Ugh, I broke KDE again...
[13:08] <Gnea> !info nvidia-96 | billy1
[13:08] <Redoovius> No, I'm not sure... but it's the generic one that ASUS uses for their netbooks.
[13:08] <michealPW> LOL I can't log-out/shutdown or restart KDE. When I click the buttons, nothing happens.
[13:08] <VRIL> benza, it runs better on vmware; but im sick of running linux on VM
[13:08] <Gnea> benza: it works.
[13:08] <michealPW> I tried issuing a qdbus command in the terminal (Found on Google) to issue the logout but it doesn't even return an error.. Any idea how to bring down this KDE :\
[13:08] <billy1> ubottu: so I need to reinstall 12.04 and do the packages you mentioned?
[13:08] <VRIL> its limited
[13:08] <Gnea> C8H10N4O2: run it with sudo
[13:08] <michealPW> All other examples on Google seem to reference KDM, which I'm not using I'm using LightDM :\
[13:08] <C8H10N4O2> tried same error
[13:09] <Gnea> C8H10N4O2: what's your pwd?
[13:09] <billy1> Gnea: what do I do with linfo nvidia-96
[13:10] <TJ-> Eagleman: I found it wasn't possible using the Android GUI for the regular VPN cert/key, let alone for a TLS-auth key
[13:10] <Gnea> billy1: install it.
[13:10] <Gnea> billy1: installing nvidia-96-dev and nvidia-96-updates-dev might not be a bad idea either
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> billy1  in a terminal, type apt-cache search nvidia-96
[13:11] <wols_> Gnea: wouldn't nouveau work?
[13:11] <Gnea> wols_: he's got an MX 440, the 96 drivers specifically still support it
[13:11] <billy1> Okay, here it is: nvidia-96-modaliases - Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org driver
[13:11] <billy1> nvidia-96 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[13:11] <billy1> nvidia-96-dev - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver development files
[13:11] <billy1> nvidia-96-kernel-source - Transitional package for nvidia-glx-96-kernel-source
[13:11] <the_dudez0r> Hi, if I'm installing a program through a .sh installer, for instance netbeans, in which folder should I install it? by default it goes to /home/grull/netbeans-7.2
[13:12] <the_dudez0r> but I don't think I want it there. What I'm asking is like what's the equivalent of program files in ubuntu
[13:12] <michealPW> Anyone have an idea to logout of KDE?
[13:12] <billy1> Gnea: I think so too.
[13:12] <XiaolinDraconis> i think /opt
[13:12] <michealPW> My Logout/Shutdown/Restart buttons do not do anything... If I switch to a terminal with Alt+Ctrl+F1 and use sudo shutdown now it also doesn't work.
[13:12] <Gnea> billy1: I've got a laptop sitting in my closet that has an mx 440 go chip in it, I haven't messed with it in over a year... thinking I probably should soon lol
[13:13] <michealPW> It gets to the lightDM loading screen but then the computer freezes...
[13:13] <michealPW> Any thoughts? :\
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  try ctrl-alt-del or ctrl-alt-backspace
[13:13] <michealPW> Just did them, not doing anything :(
[13:13] <TuxLof> ...
[13:13] <michealPW> Using U buntu 12.04.
[13:13] <billy1> Gnea: :D anyway... After installation, my desktop is working just fine, until I decided to copy old backedup /home/user/ files
[13:14] <Gnea> billy1: also, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.html
[13:14] <C8H10N4O2> NM i needed full path to backup location not just a file name
[13:14] <billy1> Gnea: let me see...
[13:15] <Gnea> billy1: check the 'release date' and the 'supported products' tab
[13:15] <billy1> Gnea: Is this new??? I must have missed it for weeks now.
[13:16] <truexfan81> anyone ever known the boot-repair app to fail?
[13:16] <Gnea> billy1: the trick is, you do NOT want to download and use the driver from that site! you need to make sure that you use the packaged driver from the ubuntu repository, which should be up to date with that release
[13:16] <billy1> Gnea: I thought I was having file permission issues due to the old files I copied back to my home folder
[13:16] <the_dudez0r> XiaolinDraconis, ok sounds good
[13:16] <billy1> Gnea: exactly
[13:16] <Gnea> billy1: that could be possible, if you have a .so file linked in correctly in a dot-directory
[13:17] <billy1> I've downloaded the latest from the repo. Well... Yeah... let me know what to tinker.
[13:17] <XiaolinDraconis> i think i need some alternate display driver, i have onboard graphics, any attempt to change resolution results in the screen seeming to tear itself apart
[13:17] <billy1> Gnea: how do I proceed?
[13:18] <Gnea> billy1: well, I'm finding some discussion revolving around instability issues of the 96 driver in precise due to some abi inconsistancy issues...
[13:19] <michealPW> MonkeyDust: Wait, do I have to switch to another virtual (text) terminal in order to use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+Delete ?
[13:19] <Gnea> billy1: of course, this was all back in the beginning of summer, it might be fixed now?
[13:19] <billy1> Gnea: Okay... is there a way to test the .so file if linked with an incorrect dot directory? I wish they were. I just installed 12.04 two weeks ago.
[13:20] <wols_> michealPW: if you can switch to a different terminal, you don't need ctrl+alt+backspace. which is disabled by default anyways I thought
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  it was just a hint, i don't use kde
[13:20] <michealPW> wols_: I can switch to a virtual terminal but I can't seem to get KDE to log-off. Using sudo shutdown now just hangs the PC :\
[13:20] <michealPW> It doesn't properly shutdown. It gets to LightDM and hangs.
[13:20] <ripthejacker> need help about networking
[13:21] <Gnea> billy1: I would just make a new account and login and test with that. if it works and your other account doesn't, then it's time to backup important files and migrate to the new account.
[13:21] <ripthejacker> i use a pppoe internet connection which is named ppp0 and it is set as the default route
[13:21] <billy1> Gnea: Oh... I will try that. Thanks. I'll be back if things don't work out. bye all. Thanks!
[13:21] <ripthejacker> but i want to use an app that uses eth0 as route
[13:21] <ripthejacker> how can i do it please help
[13:21] <Gnea> billy1: however, it's usually the flash plugin .so that a browser uses that tends to be an issue...
[13:22] <billy1> Gnea: Yeah... I'm having issues there too!
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> !ppp | ripthejacker start here
[13:22] <billy1> Gnea: Adobe flash plugin version 10 or is it 11?? just won't work. I'm currently using gnash... and it's not fast.
[13:23] <Gnea> billy1: since the driver was updated just last month, it's a good bet that it will simply work
[13:23] <Gnea> billy1: get rid of gnash
[13:23] <Gnea> billy1: the flash driver is going to suck if your base video 3d driver sucks
[13:23] <benza> okay so i got ubunut install to work, just got same problem, no mouse or keyboard function, using a dell laptop..
[13:24] <billy1> Gnea: youtube and other sites just give me a white screen with nothing on it. Yeah... I will get rid of it, but I need something that works. I think so too.
[13:24] <TheLordOfTime> when did grub2 supercede grub in the images?
[13:24] <michealPW> Ugh this is crazy.
[13:24] <TheLordOfTime> at which release?
[13:24] <eliano> Hi ! How can I install the MATE DE on Ubuntu ? Thanks !
[13:24] <Gnea> billy1: this is what I use: ii  adobe-flashplugin                                           11.2.202.238-0precise1                       Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11
[13:25] <wols_> michealPW: /etc/init.d/ligthdm stop
[13:25] <wols_> TheLordOfTime: distrowatch knows
[13:25] <TheLordOfTime> wols_, so does Ubottu
[13:25] <billy1> At least right now, I can play kobodeluxe. back in 12.04, I can't. Yeah, I've tried that both in precise and lucid. just not working here.
[13:25] <iceroot> wols_: sudo service lightdm stop
[13:25] <TheLordOfTime> !grub2 > wols_
[13:25] <jrib> TheLordOfTime: pretty long time ago
[13:25] <michealPW> thx wols_
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  dirty work around: ctrl-alt F1   sudo init 6
[13:25] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, yep, ubottu knows things ;P
[13:25] <Eagleman> TJ- i am able to use vpn on my phone with cynogenmod but i am not sure about the ta.key
[13:25] <michealPW> I will try that. From a virtual text terminal or using Konsole in KDE (Or does it matter?)
[13:26] <michealPW> brb
[13:26] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, 9.10 is when it switched according to ubottu
[13:26] <Gnea> billy1: once you solve the nvidia driver problem, most, if not all of your other problems should be solved
[13:26] <billy1> Gnea: I hope so too. I will first try the new account.
[13:28] <Kharec> §c
[13:28] <billy1> Okay... I will exit now. Thanks Gnea and you other guys for helping. I'll be back if the solution given doesn't work. Thanks! :)
[13:28] <benza> how to get grub to load when ubuntu loads, do i press e or shift?
[13:29] <DJones> benza: shift should display the grub menu
[13:29] <wols_> benza: left shift
[13:29] <benza> ok
[13:29] <michealPW> Sweet, thx wols_
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  was the init 6 trick useful to you ?
[13:30] <michealPW> That /etc/init.d/lightdm stop brought down kde and everything, then it seemed to sit in a black text terminal with a bit of output from when it was stopping services so I use ctrl+alt+del at that point to fully restart.
[13:31] <michealPW> I didnt' try the init 6, lightdm worked immediatly from Konsole in KDE heehee!
[13:31] <tryptamine> hey
[13:31] <michealPW> So I'm not sure what the problem is. I fixed it last time by renaming my ~/.kde and relogging in.
[13:31] <michealPW> Iunno. I think it's me playing with this ~/.config/autostart directory
[13:32] <michealPW> Seems to break KDE.
[13:33] <tuxmatt> hey all
[13:33] <deanfx> morning
[13:33] <tuxmatt> any one needing any help today
[13:33] <michealPW> Is there a guide or manual or something for this white mail-icon on Ubuntu 12.04 Unity?
[13:33] <tuxmatt> deanfx,  good morning to you to man
[13:33] <tuxmatt> michaelni, try to google for a ebook on it
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> tuxmatt  other timezone
[13:34] <TheLordOfTime> !google | tuxmatt
[13:34] <michealPW> It seems to have chat and mail functionality but it's not useful.. I click "Mail" and it brings up Thunderbird... I have new emails but it's not alerting me or doing anything useful :\
[13:34] <arshavin> anyone using xubuntu 12.10 already
[13:34] <Pici> arshavin: probably some folks in #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> arshavin  ask in #ubunutu+
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> arshavin  ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:35] <arshavin> I seem to have a problem with my dsktop icon fonts,I want to change the fonts but there is no setting to do that
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> arshavin  it may be because 12.10 is not stable, yet, better ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:35] <tuxmatt> ubottu,  he ask about a  Guid  white mail icon so i cannot asnswer hes question on the icons
[13:35] <michealPW> tuxmatt: I dont' even know the name of this applet, it's completely unintuitive. There's no "About", no "Help" in the menu it's just an unlabeled mail envolope-icon without so much as a simple tooltip....
[13:36] <tuxmatt> michaelni, why are you having problems with a icon for
[13:36] <Nine_9> hey guy, how can i edit the first post on the forums (and the topic name)?
[13:36] <tuxmatt> michealPW, , why are you having problems with a icon for
[13:36] <michealPW> It pulls in all kinds of random functions from random apps.. There's a bunch of Chat-related functions. There's a mail function. There's an "UbuntuOne" function, there's some undescriptive "clear" function...
[13:37] <TheLordOfTime> Nine_9, ubuntuforums.org?
[13:37] <michealPW> Something called "Liferea", whatever that spells :\
[13:37] <Nine_9> TheLordOfTime: yep. there's no edit button there
[13:37] <TheLordOfTime> Nine_9, you might not have access, but #ubuntuforums might be a better locaiton to get help with ubuntuforums.org
[13:37] <Kartagis> !xen
[13:38] <michealPW> Ugh. Maybe I'm just too tired and cranky to deal with Ubuntu's BS.
[13:38] <tuxmatt> michealPW, lol
[13:39] <michealPW> In KDE there's a very intuitive mail-envolope that's clearly labeled as KMail and seamlessly integrates with my Live Mail account..
[13:39] <michealPW> I log-in to KDE and the mail-envolope shakes, showing a little "1" and a "+" to indicate I have 1 unread new mail..
[13:39] <michealPW> I can click it and get my mail... Ubuntu Unity, though? Nope!
[13:40] <amos__> if a printer is configured nicely but doesnt print wat might be the problem pls help
[13:40] <tuxmatt> michealPW, it may be a system problem with verson of ubuntu you are running
[13:40] <Nine_9> TheLordOfTime: ok. thanks
[13:40] <michealPW> It's some totaly unituitive mail-envolope that does NOT change when I have a new mail, it does NOT integrate at all with my mail it's just a stupid link to Thunderbird haha why not I just open Thunderbird from the Launcher menu??
[13:40] <bazhang> amos__, what does linuxprinting.org database say about that printer
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  some 230 people in #kubuntu  maybe they can help
[13:40] <michealPW> It isn't even labeled, I don't even know what program is behind this mail-envolope on Ubuntu 12.04 Unity.
[13:40] <tuxmatt> michealPW, ive always had problems with kde why dont you try gnomw and se ehow that goes
[13:41] <michealPW> It's not a problem with KDE, like I just said.. KDE works perfectly fine in that regard and makes perfect sense. It's Ubuntu's UNITY that does not make any sense LOL.
[13:41] <michealPW> Anyways nevermind.
[13:41] <bazhang> amos__, you did check earlier when I asked you , right?
[13:41] <michealPW> I'll see what I can't figure out on my own ffs.
[13:41] <tuxmatt> michealPW, yes this is gnome for ubuntu :) but really its best to go wuth gnome :)
[13:41] <michealPW> Seriously, KDE is not the problem...
[13:41] <michealPW> You're missing what I'm saying, or something. Just don't worry about it :P
[13:42] <VRIL> unity=crap
[13:42] <bazhang> michealPW, then dont use unity
[13:42] <tuxmatt> michealPW, i had problems in the past with it
[13:42] <bazhang> VRIL, take it elsewhere
[13:42] <hilarie> Working on a screen shot, running lubuntu 12.04 5MB.zip Total size of files: 5.2MB Size on Disk 41.9MB
[13:42] <bazhang> !notunity | michealPW
[13:42] <hilarie> How?!
[13:42] <VRIL> bazhang, seeking my attention as usual
[13:42] <amos__> Bazhang: everything is well i checked it the drivers are all there but whe i print it just says job completed but no output on the printer
[13:43] <bazhang> amos__, and what did the linuxprinting.org say about that printer, which drivers to use
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> VRIL  you're free to not use unity, if you don't like it
[13:43] <VRIL> i know this MonkeyDust
[13:43] <ripthejacker> MonkeyDust, its not dial up, its cable modem
[13:43] <ripthejacker> pppoe
[13:43] <tuxmatt> michealPW,  try sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[13:44] <michealPW> omg, no!
[13:45] <michealPW> WTH man? That's not a solution to this problem..
[13:45] <hilarie> http://imagebin.org/232159
[13:45] <amos__> no it said i check the database n i found the printer
[13:45] <michealPW> I alraedy have GNOME 3 and KDE 4 installed alongside Unity.
[13:45] <hilarie> Is the screenshot of this madness
[13:45] <tuxmatt> michealPW,  whats rong dude
[13:45] <bazhang> michealPW, what is the exact issue. keep it all on ONE line
[13:45] <tuxmatt> bazhang,  hes having problems with hes icons
[13:46] <michealPW> Using Ubuntu 12.04 Unity, there is a mail-envolope Icon that is not labeled and completely unintuitive. It's not animating to show I have new mail. When I click it, I get a whole bunch of random functions from Chat, to UbuntuOne to Mail, to some stupdi thing called "Liferea".. What is this icon and how do I make it useful or go away?
[13:46] <amos__> Bahzang:  no it said i check the database n i found the printer
[13:46] <michealPW> On ALL OTHER systems, there is a mail-envolope icon that actually works and is useful. On Unity, this icon is not useful and it does not work.
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  i guess you can do that in dconf, somewhere (liferea is an RSS reader, i love it)
[13:48] <michealPW> Well a tooltip.. A help, a manual.. Heck even a NAME for this mail-envolope would be nice. Then I could at least google the program's name and learn about how to configure it.. There's nothing.
[13:48] <michealPW> I click it, tehre's no help, no about and it doesnt' even show a name for itself. Anyone know what it is, how I can configure it and if I can't how do I remoev it and replace it with something that actually works? :P
[13:48] <arshavin> one has to use gnome because most softwares are gnome compatible on linux,with gtk3 and all that stuff
[13:48] <michealPW> That's my only questions :P
[13:48] <hilarie> Anyone? my google fu has failed me, only thing I can find reference to is that happens with many files, this is only 1, and before I start transferring alot to it, I need to find out if I need to fix something first, du -h shows the right file size
[13:48] <Pici> michealPW: its an indicator icon, but I don't know what the standard one is called.
[13:49] <michealPW> arsh: You can use whichever you want. YOu can run GNOME programs in KDE, it just takes up a big more ram. These days most PCs have an insane amount of ram so its' not an issue at all
[13:49] <michealPW> Pici: Ah, thanks. That gives me something to work with at least! :P
[13:49] <michealPW> Let me make a screenshot, guys...
[13:49] <michealPW> Maybe I'm just not expressing my words properly LOL!
[13:50] <bazhang> indicator-applet-complete  michealPW is what it's called
[13:50] <tuxmatt> michealPW,  thanks i want to see it to you care to give it to me too as well
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> michealPW  try dconf-editor - com - canonical - indicator
[13:50] <xpistos> Hi all. Is there a way to get remmina to us the wireless network and use the rest of ubuntu to use the wired one?
[13:51] <arshavin> installing softwares meant for other DE's install insane amount of dependencies for that DE
[13:53] <michealPW> http://i49.tinypic.com/2w4bb6v.png
[13:53] <hilarie> I guess what I am trying to say, is http://imagebin.org/232159 normal?
[13:53] <michealPW> Here's screenshot with professional-quality editing.
[13:53] <michealPW> :)
[13:53] <michealPW> Ah perfect, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know (indicator-applet-complete and dconf-editor)
[13:53] <michealPW> brb to do some research!
[13:53] <hilarie> michealPW, everything about your UI makes me sad
[13:54] <michealPW> hilarie: Me too! It drievs me absolutely INSANE... Seriously, Unity drives me NUTS.
[13:54] <michealPW> The way it hides things and friggin' argh..
[13:54] <michealPW> I'm seeing if I get used to it, though. I use KDE and GNOME 3 more, my wife likes Unity (That's why it has to work..)
[13:54] <billy1> Hello There. Is Gnea still here?
[13:54] <hilarie> michealPW, switch to Lubuntu, see light...
[13:54] <michealPW> No way, my wife loves Unity :(
[13:55] <michealPW> hehe
[13:55] <michealPW> My pleasure using Lubuntu is not worth dealing with my upset wife :(
[13:55] <hilarie> "It just broke honey, and I can never get it back"
[13:55] <michealPW> LMAO
[13:55] <michealPW> "Canonical got rid of Unity, honestly!"
[13:55] <michealPW> (rofl)
[13:55] <hilarie> That's what got win7 off of the wifes laptop...
[13:55] <IdleOne> Can we keep the chit chat to an minimum and focus on actual support please
[13:55] <michealPW> haha
[13:55] <bazhang> !ot | michealPW
[13:55] <brontosaurusrex> hunny, thats new,  came with updates > lubuntu
[13:56] <arshavin> unity needs radical changes to compete with DE's,infact I am begining to feel more comfortable with gnome3 after using unity for about a month
[13:57] <hilarie> Hey, I am just killing time, until someone can explain this oddity http://imagebin.org/232159
[13:57] <quiliro> hi...does ubuntu use devmon?
[13:57] <xpistos> anyone know where I can get some remmina support for ubuntu 12.04?
[13:57] <bazhang> arshavin, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:57] <billy1> I just would like to share this with you guys. I created another account. I logged in to it... created a folder, logged out, logged back in, and there is the folder. It seems like the problem is now solved. However, when I rebooted and logged back in to that newly created account, lo and behold! No folder on the desktop, and I can't seem to right click on anywhere it. I logged out. Then logged back in to the old account, and there are the desktop items! ;D
[13:58] <michealPW> I find myself constantly pushing my cursor up to the top-left corner of my screen when I'm on Ubuntu Unity... LOL I always get a feeling as though I'm missing something, like tehre's windows I'm not aware of burried somewhere LOL. I'll never get used to looking at the launcher for little white arrows :\
[13:58] <michealPW> GNOME 3 grew on me in less than 4 days it felt very comfortable and natural. KDE takes no learning curve at all..... It still has a start menu, 'nuff said :)
[13:58] <Myrtti> michealPW: thanks, can we get back to the support issues instead of the rant
[13:59] <asdasd> sup gais
[13:59] <MaskilPDX> xpistos, Remmina the remote RDP client?
[13:59] <michealPW> Well that wasn't very nice
[13:59] <Myrtti> michealPW: thanks, can we get back to the support issues instead of the rant?
[13:59] <xpistos> MaskilPDX: Yes
[13:59] <michealPW> Meh
[13:59] <bazhang> michealPW, enough.
[13:59] <ThinkT510> michealPW: you were told to stop the commentry
[13:59] <michealPW> Right, like my support issues? :\
[13:59] <xpistos> MaskilPDX: I need to know how to get Remmina to use my wireless instead of the wired connection so it will be on a seperate network
[14:00] <gordonjcp> michealPW: "it's new and I don't like it" isn't a support issue
[14:01] <billy1> Anyway, I'll probably just install Lubuntu. thanks guys. bye.
[14:01] <MaskilPDX> xpistos, I moved to a new window
[14:06] <quiliro> nobody used udev rules for that?
[14:06] <quiliro> i guess ubuntu is better for end users
[14:07] <quiliro> not for hackers
[14:08] <koegs> xpistos: this is not a remmina issue, you need to set routing tables if you want to use certain IPs
[14:12] <L3top> quiliro: A hacker makes use of the tools available, or makes new ones. What are you trying to do?
[14:12] <mckoan> hi I am using 12.04 and I am facing to a problem, if I call "chroot . " I get an error "chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory"
[14:12] <mckoan> I never get it before
[14:12] <mckoan> with older versions
[14:12] <mckoan> any clue?
[14:12] <L3top> mckoan are you sure that the filesystem you are chrooting is in tact?
[14:13] <mckoan> L3top: what do you mean with "in tact" ?
[14:13] <wols_> mckoan: not corrupted in any way
[14:13] <L3top> mckoan: A valid filesystem.
[14:13] <DrShoggoth> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intact
[14:14] <DrShoggoth> mckoan, mkdir ./bin; cp /bin/bash .bin
[14:15] <DrShoggoth> hmm.. no
[14:16] <quiliro> L3top: i am trying to make a udev rule for a device....it should check if the parent device is a certain usb port
[14:16] <L3top> mckoan: would you like to backup a bit and explain what you are chrooting and why?
[14:18] <sasuke> hello guys , i want to  go through  source codes for linux cmds. I am using "sudo apt-get source cp", but its telling unable to find a source package. Can someone tell me where can i see the source codes
[14:19] <L3top> quiliro: I would go at it from: udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/disk/by-path/blahblahblah     if I understand you correctly... and gather what is needed from there.
[14:19] <quiliro> it should check if the parent device (port) of a usb memory that has beed just plugged-in is a certain usb port and assign a symlink to the usb memory
[14:19] <jrib> sasuke: dpkg -S $(which cp)     will tell you the package that provides the "cp" command
[14:19] <llutz> sasuke: coreutils  is the package
[14:19] <mckoan> L3top, DrShoggoth I am running a script (that have chroot inside) I used with an older version, I just migrated all to 12.04
[14:20] <mckoan> L3top, DrShoggoth ...testing...
[14:20] <DrShoggoth> ignore mine
[14:20] <DrShoggoth> it will not help
[14:20] <L3top> mckoan: so you are already chrooted into it... you just do not have any env set?
[14:20] <bogdan_> hello everyone
[14:20] <bogdan_> is someone willing to help me out with an installation?
[14:20] <bogdan_> first time linux user
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> bogdan_  if you're sweet
[14:20] <quiliro> thanks L3top, i have done something similar and found the attributes needed but they correspond to the parent device, i want to assign the symlink to the device and not to its parent
[14:21] <bogdan_> MonkeyDust, I can try
[14:21] <quiliro> L3top: nevertheless let me check how it goes with you suggestion
[14:21] <bogdan_> Basically, I am trying to install the following program: http://bigraph.org/bigmc/manual/Obtaining-BigMC.html
[14:22] <bogdan_> I'm on a fresh ubuntu installation, and I believe I have GNU readline and GNU make installed
[14:22] <bogdan_> I have followed the intallation instructions on the bigmc page
[14:22] <greasegum> hey I'm getting this crazy bug in xscreensaver when I try to enter an RSS URL as image directory under advanced preferences. help?
[14:23] <anomalies> bogdan_, just use apt or synaptic
[14:23] <anomalies> especially you are new to linux
[14:23] <anomalies> less hassle
[14:23] <bogdan_> this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283170/
[14:23] <bogdan_> I'm not sure that bigmc is going to be in the repository, though, it's not a widely used piece of software
[14:23] <bogdan_> anyway, the make step fails
[14:24] <sasuke> jrib: llutz ,  its showing the package name. How can i read the code
[14:24] <jrib> sasuke: apt-get source coreutils
[14:24] <anomalies> what is bigmc?
[14:24] <sasuke> jrib, ya did that
[14:24] <anomalies> never heard of it
[14:24] <bogdan_> anomalies, I doubt that bigMC is going to be in the repository, besides, it's the make step that is failing
[14:25] <anomalies> run this if you trying to install from source
[14:25] <bogdan_> anomalies, it's this verification software thing
[14:25] <anomalies> apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential
[14:25] <sasuke> jrib, i think it download some 12Mb archieves
[14:25] <anomalies> with or without s
[14:25] <anomalies> forgot
[14:25] <bogdan_> anomalies, I have installed build-essential
[14:25] <bogdan_> and GNU make and GNU readline, as per the instructions on the bigmc page
[14:26] <mckoan> L3top, DrShoggoth it was a stupid error. I was launching it in the wrong path. PLease apologise the noise and thank you for your time ;-)
[14:26] <sasuke> jrib, is there any website to view the source codes
[14:26] <bogdan_> So here is the error I am getting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283170/
[14:26] <anomalies> bogdan_, and for what purpose is bigMC?
[14:27] <anomalies> never heard of it, ever.
[14:27] <jrib> sasuke: maybe.  Put "coreutils" in google and try to find the projects site
[14:27] <bogdan_> anomalies, it's a university thing, I need to it for my final year project
[14:27] <bogdan_> anomalies, basically, you feed it a bigraph and some reaction rules and it checks to see if certain conditions are met
[14:28] <jrib> sasuke: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/cp.c
[14:28] <sasuke> jrib, ok thnks... i will try to find
[14:28] <bogdan_> not sure if that's relevant, though
[14:28] <llutz> sasuke: untar the file you get, cd into the "corutils..../src/ dir and "less cp.c"
[14:28] <anomalies> oh..
[14:28] <anomalies> sorry mate, can't help you with that..
[14:28] <bogdan_> anomalies, I doubt there's anything wrong with bigmc, it's just my environment that is probalby wrong
[14:30] <bogdan_> Anyway, if anyone could take a look at my failed attempt at running make, I would be grateful: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283170/
[14:30] <bogdan_> bigmc page: http://bigraph.org/bigmc/manual/Obtaining-BigMC.html
[14:30] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | bogdan_
[14:30] <sasuke> jrib, llutz : ya got it .. thans guys
[14:32] <michealPW> checkinstall sounds interesting
[14:32] <jrib> michealPW: :(
[14:32] <bogdan_> thanks for the checkinstall thing, but I don't think that will solve my issues
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> bogdan_  better contact the maintainer, Gian Perrone http://itu.dk/~gdpe/
[14:32] <jrib> michealPW: !packaging is more interesting if you want to create a proper package
[14:32] <michealPW> bogdan_: What is the issue? Did you follow the build instructions on that site?
[14:32] <bogdan_> MonkeyDust, I did consider that, but the thing hasn;t been updated in like 2 months and this looks like a pretty common error
[14:33] <michealPW> I tried to create a package when I was on debian and it was a bad experience LOL.
[14:33] <bogdan_> michealPW, I did stick to the instructions on the website, but the make step is failing for me
[14:33] <michealPW> I don't think I ended up being successful after fighting with it for awhile (Warzone 2000something, I can't remember anymore. Back in 2007ish hehe)
[14:33] <bogdan_> you can see the errors here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283170/
[14:33] <michealPW> bogdan_: Ah, righto. Let me check
[14:33] <jrib> bogdan_: what happened before make?
[14:33] <michealPW> bogdan_: Did you run ./configure before make ?
[14:34] <michealPW> And did ./configure run without errors?
[14:34] <bogdan_> michealPW, yes, I believe so
[14:34] <michealPW> 'cause that paste just shows a make :\
[14:34] <L3top> mckoan: out of curiosity... what are you doing as chroot... if it involves grub, I have written something to handle that if you want to try it. Chainloading is not yet complete if you were needing that.
[14:34] <bogdan_> jrib, fresh installation of ubuntu, got build-essential, gnu readline6, googleperf
[14:34] <anomalies> bogdan_, did you do the 'export=$PATH'
[14:34] <bogdan_> than followed commands on the page
[14:34] <anomalies> shit
[14:34] <bogdan_> anomalies, the apge would suggest that the export should follow after the installation
[14:34] <anomalies> that after no error on installation
[14:34] <anomalies> :D
[14:35] <bogdan_> anomalies, heh, yeah
[14:35] <jrib> bogdan_: what does "got" mean? You need to download the archive, extract it, and run ./configure before running make
[14:35] <anomalies> my mistake :D
[14:35] <bogdan_> jrib, I ran sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:35] <bogdan_> for the bigmc, I downloaded the tarball, ran tar on it
[14:35] <mckoan> L3top: I am cloning a Compactflash image on a new CF and installing grub at last
[14:35] <bogdan_> then, errr, ./configure
[14:35] <bogdan_> then make
[14:36] <jrib> bogdan_: pastebin the ./configure output
[14:36] <michealPW> Those errors don't make sense in that context haha (fopen() not declared, wth?) I think your autoconf (./configure) failed and you tried to continue anyways with make.
[14:36] <bogdan_> jrib, was just about to do that,  second
[14:36] <michealPW> Hrmm
[14:37] <AMDAthlon> if i got ubuntu 12.10 beta and when the final version of 12.10 comes out will i have to reinstall?
[14:37] <bogdan_> michealPW, jrib , here is the ./configure output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283186/
[14:37] <michealPW> thx
[14:37] <bogdan_> does that look like failing? I have no idea
[14:37] <DJones> AMDAthlon: No, it'll update to final release
[14:38] <bazhang> !final | AMDAthlon
[14:38] <bogdan_> there are some "no"s there, but I'm not being told of any bad errors
[14:38] <ohnoez> hey guys, i've just changed ssh standart port to non-standart one and everything works fine except sftp now, could u plz give me a hint? i failed to find an answer on my own lol thx and sorry for my english
[14:38] <anomalies> ohnoez, man sftp
[14:39] <michealPW> Hrmm
[14:39] <michealPW> Isn't there more to the output or no?
[14:40] <michealPW> Just a second
[14:40] <michealPW> Let me try something
[14:40] <anomalies> bogdan_, i did download the bigmc
[14:41] <bogdan_> michealPW, no, tha tshould be it
[14:41] <anomalies> do you run ./autogen.sh ?
[14:41] <bogdan_> anomalies, can you install it properly?
[14:41] <bogdan_> anomalies, no, should I?
[14:41] <jrib> bogdan_: I got it to build but had to edit graph.cpp and include stdio.h :/  Maybe ask the author about it
[14:41] <anomalies> that's jrib made it
[14:42] <bogdan_> jrib, were you getting the same error as me before that?
[14:42] <jrib> bogdan_: yes
[14:42] <anomalies> you should mention the author to make the changes
[14:42] <jrib> bogdan_: apparently it's a change in recent gcc
[14:42] <bogdan_> jrib, cool, let me see if that works
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> bogdan_  maybe you can help the maintainer with developping the thing
[14:43] <bogdan_> MonkeyDust, if this fixes the install, I'll send an email his way
[14:43] <quiliro> L3top: I found the distinct ID_PATH="pci-0000:00:12.2-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0" for a device connected to that specific usb port
[14:43] <quiliro> any usb device
[14:43] <quiliro> memomory
[14:44] <L3top> quiliro: This is what you wanted yes?
[14:45] <bogdan_> jrib, yes, that fixed it. Cheers for the help!
[14:45] <greek> How can I check if my server is 32 or 64 bit?
[14:45] <deadmund> uname -a
[14:46] <anomalies> uname -an
[14:46] <jrib> bogdan_: more standard way may be to include cstdio instead of stdio.h by the way.  I guess you have to look more into what changed in gcc(?) and if it's intentional
[14:46] <greek> deadmund, it says x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:46] <ohnoez> anomalies, but shouldn't it listen on port mentioned in sshd config by default? i'm kinda frustrated
[14:46] <greek> I'm guessing 64 bit then
[14:46] <anomalies> it's 64bit then
[14:46] <deadmund> 64 bit
[14:46] <deadmund> :)
[14:46] <greek> thanks :)
[14:46] <anomalies> ohnoez, nope.. it is hardcoded to run on 22
[14:46] <ohnoez> aha
[14:46] <ohnoez> anomalies, many thanks
[14:46] <jackhill> Hello, I would like to disallow user shutdown from lightdm/lightdm-greeter-kde. How can I do this (the documentation appears to be lacking)?
[14:47] <quiliro> L3top: yes, thank you... but i cannot figure how to use that to make a udev rule...i know how with this parameter...would this do the job:
[14:47] <quiliro> ACTION=="add", ID_PATH=="pci-0000:00:12.2-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", SYMLINK+="usb_derecho"
[14:47] <quiliro> sorry for the flood
[14:48] <quiliro> i am new to using irc in a big chatroom
[14:48] <quiliro> it is nob ig deal in a small one
[14:49] <quiliro> L3top: or is it just one equal sign?
[14:50] <quiliro> because the parameter had just one
[14:50] <L3top> quiliro: Yes it should be... sorry wife has me doing something atm... gimme a min.
[14:51] <quiliro> on the other hand udevadm info -a -p $(udevadm info -q path -n /dev/sdb1) uses two =
[14:52] <Sunny_> Hi Guys
[14:52] <barry_> how do i find what wireless card i have in my laptop?
[14:53] <quiliro> lspci barry_
[14:53] <quiliro> lshw
[14:53] <deadmund> barry_: sudo lspci -k  (it will be listed in there)  using -k shows the driver / modules available and the one that is being used
[14:53] <quiliro> that too
[14:53] <deadmund> barry_: If it doesn't list it you can also try lsusb
[14:53] <Sunny_> I am facing a issue with ubuntu-one in 12.04
[14:55] <barry_> deadmund, the problem i have is i was running linuxmint 9 which found my wireless driver for me, i install xubuntu and it doesnt find it for me :(
[14:55] <deadmund> barry_: Yeah, I'm not really surprised.  Usually wifi cards require proprietary software / firmware and linux mint installs this by default but ubuntu does not.  I am very good with wifi cards.  What card do you have?
[14:56] <barry_> deadmund, Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[14:57] <barry_> deadmund, im still learning linux i appreciate it
[14:57] <deadmund> barry_: what is the chipset?  (no problem).  Can you paste the relevant line for lspci in the channel or post the entire lspci output here: paste.ubuntu.com
[14:57] <dalton2345> everyone still learning well i think :)
[14:59] <michealPW> Got disconnected, sorry. Did you have any luck, bogdan_ ?
[14:59] <barry_> deadmund, how do i find out the chipset?
[15:00] <deadmund> barry_: The chipset is in the output of lspci, 1370 might be the chipset or it might be the model number.  I can't tell, sort of have to play it by feel there.
[15:00] <deadmund> It appears to be the model number
[15:00] <deadmund> judging by google results
[15:02] <barry_> deadmund, cant find the model number all i get is: 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[15:02] <Zarko> Ubuntu question
[15:02] <deadmund> the model number is BCM4318
[15:02] <deadmund> I recognize it from other cards.
[15:02] <deadmund> just a second
[15:03] <barry_> deadmund, ok
[15:03] <OerHeks> !bcm
[15:03] <deadmund> barry_: Is the computer connected to the internet in some other way right now?
[15:03] <barry_> ye using ethernet atm
[15:04] <OerHeks> barry_, " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer  "  and reboot
[15:04] <deadmund> barry_: The guide that was posted by ubottu is accurate and helpful but it's detailed.  I can tell you right now you need to install (using apt-get) firmware-b43-installer
[15:04] <deadmund> Yep :)
[15:04] <deadmund> Then you can either restart or run sudo modprobe b43
[15:05] <dalton2345> its strange usually ubuntu is good to find the wifi
[15:05] <deadmund> It did find it.  Ubuntu refuses to install proprietary firmware without user intervention
[15:05] <deadmund> OerHeks: I think the firmware- package depends on the fwcutter
[15:05] <OerHeks> deadmund, yes, you need them both.
[15:05] <barry_> deadmund, installed so i should reboot? ye it found my other laptop
[15:05] <deadmund> OerHeks: :)
[15:06] <deadmund> barry_: You can reboot or run sudo modprobe b43
[15:06] <deadmund> (modprobe is faster)
[15:06] <barry_> deadmund, what is it? and how do you know this incase i need to no in the future
[15:07] <deadmund> barry_: what is modprobe?  modprobe is a command that inserts modules (drivers) into the system. You can think of it as 'turning the driver on'
[15:07] <barry_> oh ok brb
[15:07] <deadmund> barry_: When you boot, all relevant drivers for the system are modprobed automatically for you.  The driver was not modprobed before because the firmware was missing
[15:09] <ArunC> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit desktop edition on VM. I have installed LAMP on it. I've also installed PHPMyAdmin. But I'm not able to login with MySQL root user/passwd, although http://localhost/phpmyadmin displays the login page.
[15:09] <ArunC> Any idea where I could be going wrong?
[15:11] <barry_> deadmund, ok done :) so what would be the steps to doing all this, i mean talk me though it in noob term incase i need it again for anothe machine or to help someone else?
[15:12] <barry_> deadmund,  ok done :) so what would be the steps to doing all this, i mean talk me though it in noob term incase i need it again for another machine or to help someone else?
[15:12] <deadmund> barry_: First I found out from you the wifi chipset.  Then I used my knowledge and experience to determine which driver you need.  Then I used more knowledge and experience to determine that you need firmware for the driver to work.  Then I looked up here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ the package that provides that firmware.  Then I told you to install that package.  Then we turned on the driver by rebooting
[15:13] <deadmund> Now, the guide that ubottu posted is useful for getting b43xx cards to work (most of them).  This website: http://linuxwireless.org/  is good for looking up other cards / drivers
[15:14] <deadmund> barry_: However, 9 / 10 you have a card that doesn't work, it's a b43 card and you need to install that firmware package (firmware-b43-installer)
[15:14] <deadmund> It took me about 2 years to figure that out.  When I started using linux in 2007
[15:14] <michealPW> I fixed it, bogdan
[15:15] <L3top> deadmund: and b43-fwcutter
[15:15] <dr_willis> that 'additional-drivers' tool should show the needed packages i thought.
[15:15] <deadmund> firmware-b43-installer does the b43-fwcutter stuff for you.
[15:15] <deadmund> but yeah
[15:15] <michealPW> You have to add a line to your graph.cpp to explicitly include the standard I/O header (#include <stdio.h>)
[15:15] <riqdiiz> hello friends where Can I get mp3codecs for Ubuntu?
[15:15] <deadmund> "and b43-fwcutter" to extract the firmware
[15:15] <deadmund> dr_willis: That thing never works! :P
[15:15] <michealPW> For some reason, graph.cpp does not have that include statement and the standard I/O headers are not being included (It shoul dbe pulled in from main.cpp, I don't know what G++'s problem is :P )
[15:16] <dr_willis> deadmund:  seems to work well for me
[15:16] <Zarko> Ubuntu question
[15:16] <deadmund> It can't tell if drivers are loaded or not, it usually fails without telling when when it tries to load them, it doesn't see certain hardware
[15:16] <Pici> Zarko: You need to acually ask your question before someone can help.
[15:16] <ArunC> I have installed LAMP on my Ubuntu 12.04 64bit. I've also installed PHPMyAdmin. But I'm not able to login with MySQL root user/passwd, although http://localhost/phpmyadmin displays the login page.
[15:16] <deadmund> dr_willis: Perhaps I gave up on it too long ago
[15:16] <zizi_> hi
[15:16] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  the ubuntu-restricted-extras package should install them and moar you may want
[15:16] <ArunC> any idea where i could be going wrong?
[15:16] <zizi_> i just lost an libreoffice file because kubuntu crashed
[15:17] <deadmund> barry_: the additional-drivers tool can be helpful too.  Effectively does everything I did for you automatically (i.e. knowing what driver to use and getting the firmware packages and so on)
[15:17] <zizi_> i cheked my home folder for .libreoffice folder to recover it but the folder doesn exist
[15:17] <zizi_> can i do somethin else?
[15:18] <dr_willis> turn on autosave every 5 min.... perhaps for the future
[15:18] <dr_willis> dosent libreoffice have a recovery feature?
[15:18] <ArunC> hello?
[15:19] <dr_willis> hello ArunC
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> zizi_ maybe in ~/.config/libreoffice/
[15:19] <ArunC> I have installed LAMP on my Ubuntu 12.04 64bit. I've also installed PHPMyAdmin. But I'm not able to login with MySQL root user/passwd, although http://localhost/phpmyadmin displays the login page.
[15:19] <ArunC> Any idea where i could be going wrong?
[15:19] <L3top> ArunC: You do have a password correct?
[15:20] <ArunC> dr_willis: ^^
[15:20] <nibbler_> i just reinstalled 12.04, and ever since my flash_plugin fullscreen mode, and other fullscreens modes get confused with my gnome-classic menu- and task bars. i remember having this and that it was a simple fix, but can't remember how.. any hints?
[15:20] <ArunC> L3top: Yes, I can access it with mysql -uroot -p
[15:20] <riqdiiz> Drwillis I have enabled the repository but it won't burge :( could it be I'm using a bad server?
[15:20] <dr_willis> ArunC:  i know diddly about lamp/mysql.. thates why i said nothing earlier...
[15:21] <L3top> ArunC: at the bottom of the phpmyadmin page there is a dropdown... do you have two localhost options? If so choose the lower one.
[15:22] <ArunC> L3top: No, I can't see the option you are saying. I can see only a language drop down, username and password inputs and a Go (submit) button.
[15:24] <nibbler_> ArunC: you might want to check your apache and mysql logs while you try to log in
[15:24] <nibbler_> ArunC: tail -fn0 /var/log/*
[15:24] <ArunC> nibbler_: OK, let me check that..
[15:24] <riqdiiz> how can I stay here permanent without the Dbanlist issue?
[15:25] <dr_willis> dban list issue?
[15:27] <riqdiiz> yeah my client sometimes gives me that my IP is on some banned list ..
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  the best way is: don't give people or services a reason to ban you
[15:27] <riqdiiz> and disconnects!
[15:27] <dr_willis> ask in #freenode perhaps
[15:27] <nibbler_> riqdiiz: use a proxy/bouncer/shell or change your isp?
[15:28] <dr_willis> a proxy, or vpn, is handy. but may cost $
[15:28] <riqdiiz> can you install those on android?
[15:28] <dr_willis> also using ssl to connect can help in some cases
[15:29] <dr_willis> android can use proxys and vpn and ssl
[15:29] <zizi_> monkeydust, thank you very much!! i love you
[15:29] <ArunC> nibbler_: Weird, now even the login page is not loading and there are no logs rotating in /var/log/
[15:29] <riqdiiz> ssl needs. some registration ?
[15:30] <dr_willis> every so often id have to 'reconnect' my phone to get a new ip to connect. with ssl i dont have to any more
[15:30] <nibbler_> ArunC: mybe /var/log/mysql /var/log/apache2/...?
[15:31] <azl> Hii
[15:31] <rohan_> I want to upgrade ubuntu to 12.10. But I don't want to install all the softwares again. Is it possible?
[15:31] <OerHeks> rohan_, you do want new software.
[15:31] <nibbler_> rohan_: thats why its called an upgrade and not a reinstall ;-)
[15:31] <dr_willis> upgradeing upgrades everything.. so your not being clear
[15:31] <Shadow``> do-release-upgrade?
[15:32] <michealPW> For the archives, here's the modified graph.cpp for BigMC which compiles fine under Ubuntu 12.04 with build-essential package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283273/
[15:32] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade -d for development releases Shadow`` , rohan_
[15:33] <rohan_> nibbler_: So I dont have to install my current softwares?
[15:33] <dr_willis> rohan_:  it upgrades whats installed now...
[15:34] <BluesKaj> roh your current software will be upgraded , you will not have to reinstall if you follow the above method
[15:34] <BluesKaj> rohan_,^
[15:34] <ArunC> nibbler_: Looks like there are some errors in the apache2 logs. But nothing in mysql logs.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283283/
[15:34] <riqdiiz> does this channel require registration?
[15:34] <nibbler_> rohan_: everything you installed via the ubuntu repositories should just be upgraded in the process. you get a warning about packaged that are not supported anymore (not many, wont matter most likely) and stuff you installed your self you have to take care yourself
[15:35] <rohan_> thnx BluesKaj
[15:35] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  this one, no. but many others do
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> nibbler_  if packages are no longer updated or available, you can delete them with apt-get autoremove
[15:35] <nibbler_> ArunC: i don't know phpmyadmin too well, but thats your error for sure (if timestamp is recent)
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> nibbler_  that was for rohan_
[15:35] <nibbler_> okay ;-)
[15:35] <michealPW> ArunC: You have a setting in your php.ini that restricts the use of functions like require()
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> rohan_   if packages are no longer updated or available, you can delete them with apt-get autoremove
[15:36] <ArunC> nibbler_: thanks
[15:36] <ArunC> michealPW: Oh, let me look at it.
[15:36] <nibbler_> ArunC: welcome.
[15:36] <rohan_> thnx
[15:36] <michealPW> ArunC: open_basedir is the option. It can be used to specify a list of safe locations that functions such as require() can and cannot read to. Your open_basedir prevents your functions from looking in directories that they're trying to look in :P
[15:37] <pyoor> Hi all.  I'm trying to install gcc-3.4 from Jaunty's repos.  I'm having an issue with my /etc/apt/sources.list -- I've added the following line to get access to the Jaunty repos but gcc-3.4 still isn't found
[15:37] <pyoor> deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main restricted
[15:37] <riqdiiz> dr_willis: thanks buddy then this is home :)
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> pyoor  it's because jaunty is dead
[15:37] <jpmh> I have an rsa_id file that is not in the default .ssh directory.  I want lftp when is sftp mode to use this file, how do I tell it where to look for the file
[15:38] <michealPW> ArunC: So, PHPMyAdmin pulls PHP from a bunch of different files, using the require() function and also the file() function. Your php config blocked these includes and that's why you got this fatal error:  Call to undefined function PMA_sanitize(); PMA_sanitize() is likely declared in one of those files that was not allowed to be required (included)
[15:38] <pyoor> MonkeyDust: I was able to add that repo a week ago on a different machine but I deleted the VM without saving the sources.list
[15:38] <dr_willis> pyoor:  deb-src is for the source packages. not the binariey pCKAGES
[15:38] <dr_willis> oops
[15:38] <pyoor> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[15:39]  * dr_willis has no idea why one would want jaunty ;)
[15:39] <Malimbar> alright... after loading kubuntu, removing it with a script someone privided, and removing the automatically installed stuff with an auto-cleanup command... one of my programs is complaining about not having libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[15:39] <pyoor> dr_willis: I have an app that requires gcc-3.4
[15:39] <riqdiiz> is jaunty really dead?
[15:39] <ArunC> michealPW: open_basedir option is commented out.
[15:39] <pyoor> it's in a test environment and I only need it for this 1 app so running an EOL OS doesn't bother me much
[15:39] <Malimbar> and apt-get says that that file doesn't exist
[15:39] <dr_willis> pyoor:  and what release are yoiu using now?
[15:39] <ArunC> ;open_basedir =
[15:40] <pyoor> dr_willis: I'm installing this on 10.04
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  since two years now, it has already become liquid
[15:40] <dr_willis> pyoor:  you are using jaunty in a vm on 10.04?
[15:40] <pyoor> dr_willis: no running 10.04 and trying to add the jaunty repo
[15:41] <pyoor> I know sounds a bit ridiculous
[15:41] <rohan_> Is it possible to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 from .iso image and how?
[15:41] <pyoor> should have just installed 9.04 and added the old-repo
[15:41] <dr_willis> pyoor:  i bet it wont work either...
[15:41] <pyoor> dr_willis: the only line in my sources.list is that repo and it still won't find the package
[15:41] <rad2905> hi guys
[15:41] <rad2905> I need a quick help if someone is up to
[15:41] <michealPW> ArunC: Right. What you want to do is uncomment that and set it to the location of phpMyAdmin or your entire web-root to totaly make the feature be quiet and leave you alone
[15:41] <riqdiiz> no that's why I can't get Ubuntu 9.04 to grab some softwares using apt
[15:41] <rohan_> rad2905: go ahead
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> pyoor  riqdiiz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
[15:42] <rad2905> aw, thanx
[15:42] <dr_willis> pyoor:  you did a apt-get update? i suggest using a jaunty instance in a vm   instead
[15:42] <ArunC> michealPW: :) Thanks, let me try that.
[15:42] <michealPW> ArunC: If you're a local developer developing on a local web server, things like open_basedir are not useful to you. It's a way for restricting what PHP developers can do on your server remotely, so that they cannot create a PHP script that starts pulling in code from all over the server hehe
[15:42] <pyoor> dr_willis: yes, I have.  This is on its own box because as I mentioned, it's a test environment -- no need to virtualize
[15:42] <rad2905> I was wondering what ubuntu edition should I download and install for an older pc, runninng athlon xp 3500+
[15:42] <BluesKaj> pyoor, adding a repos to your sources list will just break the packages when you upgrade ..very poor practice
[15:43] <BluesKaj> the jaunty repos that is , pyoor
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> rad2905  lubuntu is for older hardware, xubuntu too
[15:43] <pyoor> BluesKaj: I don't plan on upgrading. As I mentioned, I just need to use 1 app which requires gcc-3.4
[15:43] <ArunC> michealPW: Oh, din't know that.. thanks for the information :)
[15:43] <pyoor> and that app was originally built on jaunty
[15:43] <rad2905> that lubuntu can be installed via wubi?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> rad2905  don't se wubi
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> use*
[15:44] <rad2905> ...or xubuntu, for that matter
[15:44] <rad2905> ah, okay...
[15:44] <rad2905> well, that's about it. Thanx guys.
[15:44] <rad2905> if there's any other tip for me, please go ahead... :)
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> pyoor  modify the app, so it can be used on more modern systems
[15:45] <TJ-> pyoor: what does "apt-cache policy gcc-3.4" report?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> pyoor, well good luck with that , jaunty is past it's EOL
[15:45] <pyoor> TJ-: Unable to locate package gcc-3.4
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Six ubuntu releases are still supported and yet people are not happy ;)
[15:46] <rad2905> bye... :)
[15:46] <dr_willis> pyoor:  whats your complet sources.list look like anyway?
[15:46] <bobbiejoe> allo
[15:46] <pyoor> dr_willis: I deleted all entries except for my one pointing to the jaunty repo
[15:46] <BluesKaj> !EOL | pyoor
[15:46] <bobbiejoe> allo
[15:46] <dr_willis> so it has one line which is what exactly?
[15:47] <gianp> michealPW, Thanks for letting me know about the BigMC issue.  Did the user in question manage to get things working, do you know?
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> sudo app rta-2 --1sbegun
[15:47] <pyoor> BluesKaj: I appreciate your help, but again -- I don't care that this is EOL -- it's a test environment for the purpose of running one app
[15:47] <rax-> debconf: (Dialogue frontend will not work on a dumb terminal, an Emacs shell buffer, or without a controlling terminal.)
[15:47] <rax-> debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline
[15:47] <michealPW> gianp: I fixed their problem but I think they left before I found the solution :\
[15:47] <pyoor> BluesKaj: this is possible regardless of it being EOL
[15:47] <rax-> what is this? :\
[15:47] <stevedat> Is it good to put the system hibernate under ubuntu 12.04?
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> Got the bad bitches
[15:47] <michealPW> gianp: Oh! You're Gian aren't you?? :)
[15:47] <pyoor> dr_willis: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main restricted
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> what
[15:47] <L3top> pyoor: his point is that it cannot be supported here. An end of support is an end of support.
[15:47] <gianp> michealPW, I am :)
[15:47] <michealPW> Cool, nice to meet you! :)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> pyoor, well you could have mentioned that first
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> Same
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> L)
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> :()
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> ")
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> :)
[15:47] <FloodBot1> bobbiejoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <bobbiejoe> omg
[15:47] <gianp> michealPW, He emailed me and I told him to use the latest version with the fix anyway so hopefully he gets it working.
[15:48] <michealPW> gianp: Ah, were we trying to get an old version working hehe?
[15:48] <calrogman> rax-: it means you're trying to run something with ANSI control sequences in a dumb terminal, Emacs shell buffer or without a controlling terminal
[15:48] <gianp> I was mostly terrified at the idea of some poor soul using my flaky research software working :p
[15:48] <stevedat> should i hibernate my laptop under ubuntu 12.04?
[15:48] <said> k
[15:48] <gianp> michealPW, Yes.  The newest is 20120807.
[15:48] <TJ-> pyoor: Your problem is, you're not including "universe" pocket on the "deb:" line of "sources.list"
[15:48] <michealPW> Ohh, I see. LOL my bad :P
[15:48] <rax-> calrogman: Can you explain that to me like I'm 5 years old?
[15:48] <pyoor> L3top: I can understand that.  I'm not very familiar with ubuntu or apt based distros.  I received help here last week regarding this issue.  But as I mentioned, I mistakenly blew away that VM thus losing sources.list
[15:48] <dr_willis> stevedat:  try it and see how well it works
[15:49] <pyoor> TJ-: could you point me to an example
[15:49] <pyoor> again I apologize as I rarely use apt based distros
[15:49] <gianp> Well, in fairness, I have no idea where he would even have obtained the old version, given that the website (as far as I know...) only includes a link to the newest version on Github.  *shrug* :)
[15:49] <L3top> pyoor: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[15:49] <stevedat> May i use :sudo pm-hibernate"?
[15:49] <michealPW> I think we got it from a website
[15:49] <AMDAthlon> if i installed ubuntu 12.10 beta i wont have to reinstall with the final version right?
[15:49] <TJ-> pyoor: "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty main restricted universe"
[15:49] <michealPW> Let me scroll up and get the exact link
[15:49] <Malimbar> ah, figured out my problem - it accidentally uninstalled ia32-libs
[15:49] <Malimbar> :)
[15:50] <michealPW> http://bigraph.org/bigmc/manual/Obtaining-BigMC.html
[15:50] <TJ-> pyoor: For Jaunty, gcc-3.4 is in the universe pocket, not main or restricted
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> AMDAthlon  no
[15:50] <michealPW> That's the link he/she posted and I got that old version from heeh
[15:50] <gianp> Oh, whoops.  Yes, the manual would appear to be out of date.  I should fix that.
[15:50] <michealPW> Jah!
[15:50] <gianp> michealPW, Anyway, thanks a bunch for helping to support my flaky software :p
[15:50] <calrogman> rax-: ANSI escape codes are used to move the cursor around the screen to allow you to draw anywhere on the terminal.  dumb terminals and Emacs shell buffers do not support ANSI escape sequences and they don't make sense without a controlling terminal.  In those situations the program is nice enough to fall back on a line-by-line interface implemented using the GNU readline library.
[15:50] <michealPW> No problem. Good job on your work, mate :)
[15:51] <pyoor> TJ-: thanks, that worked
[15:51] <pyoor> much appreciated
[15:51] <michealPW> I'm learning C right now, i'm starting college in January for Computer Programmer/Analyst
[15:51] <skipper> hi all, does somebody know when dash is used after a command what does it mean? for example "cat -" and without any parameter or filename??
[15:51] <michealPW> Going to be great success :)
[15:52] <rax-> calrogman : thank you but that's still quite strange because this is on a CLI only server and was generated during a scripted dist-upgrade (capturing the stderr to a different log file)
[15:52] <Pici> skipper: it generally means that you will be getting the input from stdin rather from a file.
[15:52] <nibbler_> skipper: it means "end of parameters"
[15:52] <nycjv321> Hey I am configuring server and had a quick question
[15:52] <nibbler_> skipper: sorry, me wrong, pici right
[15:52] <nycjv321> I generated /etc/resolve.conf using dhclient. how do  Imake those changes permanent
[15:52] <dr_willis> skipper: 'read from stdin'   2 -- mean end of paramters
[15:52] <calrogman> rax-: the script is likely redirecting the programs stdin and stdout
[15:53] <rax-> OK. should I capture them all in the same place?
[15:53] <skipper> thnx guys :) and appart from command skype with which command is used?
[15:53] <michealPW> What if the - is really a government conspiracy?
[15:53] <michealPW> :)
[15:53] <rax-> calrogman: thanks, I'll just ignore it then
[15:53] <calrogman> rax-: no, if you don't want it to fall back on the readline interface, don't redirect any of its inputs or outputs
[15:53] <bearly230> Hey all I've got an issue in Desktop 12.04 where I'm unable to ctrl-alt-f2. I use the command to open an console and all I get is a blank screen, No login prompt. Any idea's?
[15:53] <nec1765> hi all. i am using lubuntu 12.04. after auto-update, i dont event get a GRUB screen. computer just keeps rebooting. i boot with a USB and checked /var/log/dpkg.log and see that there was this line -> install linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic <none> 3.2.0-32.51
[15:54] <rax-> hm, ok. I'll remove the redirection of stderr
[15:54] <rax-> thanks calrogman
[15:54] <valnour> bearly230: do you get a console at ctrl-alt-f3 or ctrl-alt-f4?
[15:54] <dr_willis> bearly230:  some drivers for video can mess with the framebuffer consoles. you could try disabeling the framebuffer console
[15:55] <bearly230> valnour: same thing with any console.
[15:55] <nec1765> under /boot/ i see only two files having new timestmp: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-32-generic  and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:55] <nibbler_> nec1765: if you don't see the grub menu, /boot is out of question. try reinstalling grub to the mbr
[15:55] <bearly230> dr_willis: how do you disable framebuffer consoles?
[15:57] <deanfx> Anyone know how to reinstall ruby on rails? getting errors on mine
[15:58] <syskk> how can i explore a package's information?
[15:58] <syskk> im wondering what version of Node.js the nodejs package installs
[15:58] <nec1765> ok. thanks. when i open /boot/grub/grub.cfg, it says its autogenerated by two files /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d but both of these havent changed.........
[15:59] <nec1765> anyway i wil reinstall grub. i guess i will never know why kernel update destroyed my grub?
[15:59] <vwq> How May All Of You be On this DAY?
[15:59] <vwq> HELLO my dear lovers.
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> vwq  wrong channel
[15:59] <vwq> MonkeyDust: No
[15:59] <vwq> I love EVERY person who sits UPON this channel.
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> vwq  did you have a support question?
[16:00] <vwq> Yes
[16:00] <vwq> I did
[16:00] <vwq> But I thought It's best to introduce myself Firstly.
[16:00] <bazhang> !ot | vwq
[16:00] <michealPW> syskk: You can do apt-cache pkginfo nodejs
[16:00] <michealPW> Wait, let me double-check hehe my memory is horrible
[16:01] <vwq> bazhang: I was not Being Off topic.
[16:01] <syskk> michealPW: says Invalid operation pkginfo
[16:01] <bazhang> vwq, take it elsewhere
[16:01] <vwq> I have a support QUestion you see.
[16:01] <dr_willis> state your question then,.,,
[16:01] <michealPW> syskk: Sorry, it's apt-cache showpkg nodejs
[16:01] <michealPW> heehee
[16:01] <recon_lap> syskk: think it apt-cache policy packagename
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> vwq  you talk too much, just ask your question please
[16:02] <vwq> Okay.
[16:02] <vwq> My question
[16:02] <vwq> is...
[16:02] <vwq> Well um
[16:02] <FloodBot1> vwq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <vwq> OMG
[16:02] <L3top> Chit-chat is off topic vwq. Ask your question. Imagine for a moment all 1700 people flooded the text like you. It would be unusable.
[16:02] <vwq> what happened?
[16:02] <L3top> !ask | vwq
[16:02] <vwq> WHat just happened I got disconnected man
[16:03]  * themill wonders how many channels vwq is going to get banned in today
[16:03] <L3top> You are flooding the text... ask the question, follow directions.
[16:03] <OerHeks> vwq, easy on the enter please
[16:03] <TimothyA> for ubuntu (file)servers, which filesystem is recommended? ext3 or ext4 or other?
[16:03] <vwq> themill: So? I was only using a non UK keyboard in debian
[16:03] <bazhang> TimothyA, ext4
[16:03] <vwq> OerHeks: Okai due
[16:03] <dr_willis> TimothyA:  ext4 is the default these days
[16:03] <vwq> AnYWAY moving on...
[16:03] <vwq> My question waaz
[16:03] <bazhang> vwq, stop it
[16:04] <vwq> bazhang wait let me Ask My Uestion
[16:04] <L3top> Ask the question, on ONE LINE vwq. Stop this.
[16:04] <[twisti]> is there something newer than lucid for ubuntu packages ? i need a newer version of cacti
[16:04] <lifebird64> vwq: #ubuntu guidelines recommend that you ask your question in one single line. splitting it up and taking forever to ask your question is regarded as flooding and will get you auto-kicked.
[16:04] <dr_willis> !lucid
[16:05] <[twisti]> errm, i meant precise, sorry
[16:05] <dr_willis> [twisti]:  12.04 is out now.
[16:05] <TimothyA> I still don't understand why /home gets its own partition...
[16:05] <[twisti]> right, and im asking if theres something newer
[16:05] <dr_willis> ;) ok... 12.10 is due out in a few days
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> TimothyA  it's easier for reinstalls or upgrades
[16:05] <dr_willis> [twisti]:  ppa's are commonly used
[16:05] <lifebird64> Timothy: isn't optional. /home is user files. it makes swapping out a harddrive with userspace files easier
[16:05] <TimothyA> MonkeyDust: in what way?
[16:05] <[twisti]> can i somehow see what version of cacti is bundled with that ?
[16:06] <[twisti]> i dont know what ppas are
[16:06] <michealPW> Is ext4 the only one that provides robust journaling?
[16:06] <dr_willis> !ppa
[16:06] <michealPW> Or does ext3 also do journaling?
[16:06] <TimothyA> lifebird64: mysql tends to store in /var/lib/mysql....which is the smallest partition on the system most of the time
[16:06] <wols_> michealPW: it does
[16:06] <TimothyA>  /var/log/ also writes to the smallest partition on the system
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> TimothyA  if I want a fresh install, my personal docs and settings are not touched, when i erase ubuntu
[16:06] <TimothyA> this does not seem like a good idea
[16:06] <[twisti]> cacti is already bundled with precise, its just that i want a more current version
[16:06] <michealPW> Hrmm
[16:06] <wols_> michealPW: ext3 = ext2 plus journaling (simplified but...)
[16:06] <L3top> TimothyA: It is a great idea. You are under no obligation to do it.
[16:07] <TimothyA> MonkeyDust: so server data is not as important as personal documents? :P
[16:07] <lifebird64> Timothy: yup. I know. I've encountered that before too. it's annoying. I usually either make /var larger or setup /var/lib/mysql as a symlink to another larger partition.
[16:07] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> TimothyA  server uses more separate partitions, for the same reason
[16:07] <dr_willis> [twisti]:  find a ppa for a newer version is the 'common' answer
[16:07] <L3top> TimothyA: it is not just personal documents. Your specified user has a great number of configurations, settings, data, etc.
[16:07] <[twisti]> ah, alright, thanks
[16:08] <TimothyA> L3top: data and settings? those are in hidden . directories, or in /var/
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> TimothyA  .config is stored in /home too, so that is saved too
[16:08] <L3top> ls -a /home/$USER
[16:08] <TimothyA> user information regarding passwords is stored in /etc/ ...
[16:08] <dr_willis> user owned files are in their home  normally ;)
[16:08] <nec1765> hi. thanks for your help. i had a dual bootsetup by win7 BCDedit on MBR and first 512 bytes of my linux partition saved as linux.bin on NTFS drive. i did dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/mnt/share/linux.bin again this revived my computer
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> TimothyA  then put /etc/ on its own partition, it's perfectly possible
[16:09] <TimothyA> dr_willis: except for services. those can just disappear, right?
[16:09] <TimothyA> MonkeyDust: so what's the case of not having every single subdirectory being a partition?
[16:09] <dr_willis> user owned servicesx?
[16:09] <michealPW> TimothA: There's a good guide that fully explains the Linux filesystem (How it's organized, now the actual filesystems hehe) if you're interested?
[16:09] <TimothyA> dr_willis: mysql for example
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> TimothyA  it can be done, see what suits you best
[16:09] <TimothyA> michealPW: sure
[16:09] <michealPW> TimothyA: I think you're just a little confused on what /var/ is actually for, that's all.
[16:09] <michealPW> K, let me get you the link mate ;)
[16:10] <TimothyA> michealPW: I know that's where mysql stores all the data for the databases and tables
[16:10] <TimothyA> which tends to be a bit important
[16:10] <[twisti]> dr_willis: i followed the advice on that page, but now i am spammed with a bunch of errors when i try to do apt-get update, like the following. did i mess something up ?
[16:10] <[twisti]> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/paul-climbing/cacti/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[16:10] <michealPW> TimothyA: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[16:10] <wols_> dr_willis: mail is under /var and those are certainly user owned
[16:10] <ikonia> michealPW: that's not worth anything if ubuntu doesn't follow it
[16:10] <TimothyA> and I know that mysql innodb tables will throw a hissy fit if you don't keep it where you created it
[16:11] <ikonia> michealPW: TimothyA is right, it's where the ubuntu mysql database datafiles are stored
[16:11] <dr_willis> [twisti]:  could be a dead ppa.
[16:11] <basic`> just use xtrabackup from percona
[16:11] <basic`> you can copy your innodb data files anywhere you need them to be
[16:12] <[twisti]> it didnt actually work either :| i guess im just downloading the new source, its mostly web stuff anyways
[16:12] <ikonia> basic`: yes, but that is the DEFAULT location in ubuntu
[16:12] <TimothyA> basic`: no you cannot
[16:12] <basic`> TimothyA: pretty sure you can
[16:12] <ikonia> TimothyA: you can put them where you want
[16:12] <TimothyA> you can only create them where you want them to be. you cannot move them anywhere else
[16:12] <ashwin18> Hi. I'm relatively a novice ubuntu user nad I have 2 quick questions. 1: How do I set Windows 7 as the default option in ubuntu's bootloader. and 2: Can I install applications on ubunto without an internet connection (VLC media player for example)
[16:12] <basic`> yes you can
[16:12] <ikonia> TimothyA: you can move them
[16:12] <TimothyA> basic`: I want to see you try
[16:12] <ikonia> TimothyA: I move them all the time
[16:12] <basic`> TimothyA: trust me, you can use percona xtrabackup
[16:12] <TimothyA> ikonia: INNODB, not myisam
[16:12] <TimothyA> different thing
[16:12] <ikonia> TimothyA: I'm aware of that
[16:12] <SurrealNick> hi everyone, need some help with graphical problems and intalling updates
[16:12] <michealPW> ikonia: Right, readign that FHS should help TimothyA find a more appropriate location for his databases... I didn't know Ubuntu mysql put the dbs there, though, that's odd :\
[16:12] <TimothyA> you cannot just move them from /var/lib to /mysql for example
[16:13] <ashwin18> Anyone?
[16:13] <basic`> TimothyA: you cannot just move them, but you can use percona xtrabackup
[16:13] <ikonia> michealPW: it's not odd, most distros put them there
[16:13] <basic`> if you haven't used it, try it
[16:13] <basic`> it will work
[16:13] <ikonia> TimothyA: of course you don't just "mv" them
[16:13] <michealPW> You can't jus tmove them, no, but you can setup mysql to put them in a more appropriate location for your system
[16:13] <TimothyA> ikonia: they will become practically unusable at that point
[16:13] <ikonia> TimothyA: I'm not disagreeing with that
[16:13] <dr_willis> ashwin18:  musch easier if you have a connection. offline can be a pain
[16:13] <TimothyA> michealPW: /home/mysql/ ?
[16:14] <michealPW> ikonia: It's weird that any distro would put them there. I guess it might be becomming a de facto standard but it still doesn't make a lot of sense to me after reading FHS haha :\
[16:14] <ikonia> TimothyA: you can store them where ever YOU want
[16:14] <ashwin18> dr willis, I see. And how about the bootloader default?
[16:14] <ikonia> michealPW: stop quoting things like FHS - no-one has "signed up" to follow it, so it's worthless
[16:14] <michealPW> Ikonia: I guess that's like the LSB... When no distros properly adhere to it, what's the point? :\
[16:14] <dr_willis> ashwin18:  its doable.. the grub2 wiki page mentions it. as does askubuntu.com
[16:14] <ikonia> michealPW: right, so what's the point in quoting it to people
[16:14] <basic`> it basically creates a crash recovery copy of the innodb data, you can put this copy in your new location, point my.cnf / mysql at the new location, and start it back up
[16:15] <ashwin18> dr willis, I checked askubuntu and found many unanswered questions on the topic. Can you give me a link to the wiki or askubuntu?
[16:15] <dr_willis> !grub2 > ashwin18
[16:15] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:15] <michealPW> ikonia: If more people are aware, more people can request that Canonical adhere to the standard right?
[16:15] <basic`> it'll even give you the binlog file/position at which the snap was taken
[16:15] <nydel> question: i noticed when i booted today that ubuntu prompted me that one of my drives did not mount (it was not present) -- is this a new feature? i've never seen it before.
[16:15] <ikonia> michealPW: no, you can't request anything
[16:15] <michealPW> ikonia: If a large group of users requested Canonical adhere to a standard, you don't think they would listen? :\
[16:15] <under> Hi. What is the file that sets the launcher stuff?
[16:16] <ikonia> michealPW: no, they don't care because it doesn't matter
[16:16] <OerHeks> ashwin18, you can install offline
[16:16] <OerHeks> !offline
[16:16] <michealPW> I guess it's a bit naive of me, but it's hard to believe Canonical would not listen to a large group of their users/customers :\
[16:16] <ashwin18> okay, dr_willis left but I think he misunderstood. I want to keep the ubuntu bootloader, I just want the 'default' that starts within 10 seconds to be windows 7, not ubuntu
[16:16] <ikonia> michealPW: of course they would not listen,
[16:16] <ikonia> michealPW: what does it matter, why change it because someone random wrote a document called the FHS
[16:16] <ashwin18> OerHeks, can you tell me how? Like for VLC, I couldn't even find a download link
[16:17] <nydel> under: ~/.config/dconf/user
[16:17] <nec1765> michaelPW: unity
[16:17] <Cong> hey guys how do I use telnet to execute command on the computer side?
[16:17] <ashwin18> Shoot, I have to leave. Thanks for the help everyone, I'll come back later.
[16:17] <nydel> under: man the "gsettings" application
[16:17] <ikonia> Cong: telnet in login, type the command
[16:17] <michealPW> ikonia: There should be a LSB, IMHO, which would also require a standard filesystem hierarchy. I believe if there actually was an agreed-upon standard game companies wouldn't ahve such a hard time targeting Linux? :\
[16:18] <ikonia> michealPW: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:18] <under> nydel: I've to edit the command to launch an app that's on the launcher
[16:18] <michealPW> ikonia: How can it not have anything to do with Ubuntu when it's [Ubuntu] the fastest growing Linux distribution? :\
[16:18] <michealPW> hehe
[16:18] <Cong> ikonia, can I get an example?
[16:18] <C8H10N4O2> If you want a seriously righteous hack, you should score one of those Gibson's
[16:18] <C8H10N4O2> I can watch that movie over and over again and never get sick of it
[16:19] <ikonia> michealPW: because this channel is for ubuntu techanical support and you stating some sort of idealistic approach that matters not doesn't really help
[16:19] <michealPW> Always the copout haha.
[16:19] <ikonia> Cong: sure type telnet hostname
[16:19] <michealPW> Alright, Ikonia :)
[16:19] <nydel> under: i had so much trouble being able to do that - i ended up switching to gnome. well, cinnamon.
[16:19] <ikonia> michealPW: it's not a cop out, it's exactly what I've said it is, now please stop
[16:19] <Cong> ikonia, typing in totem in the client says display not specified.
[16:19] <SurrealNick> i cant install any updates since updating graphical drivers, apparently i have installed packages that have unmet dependencies...i have no idea how to fix this
[16:20] <ikonia> Cong: very few modern systems will respond to telnet, ubuntu installs have it disabled by default
[16:20] <michealPW> Alright, ikonia :)
[16:20] <nydel> under: like, you want to change "terminal" to "terminal --parameter" or something, that's what you mean right?
[16:20] <gordonjcp> Cong: wait, what
[16:20] <luist> how do i fix broken sudo?? i created a file in sudoers.d and now i cant even chmod to 0440 because i cant use sudo!! This is stupid!
[16:20] <under> nydel: you did the best thing. this is a crappy bar
[16:20] <gordonjcp> Cong: what are you using telnet for?
[16:20] <ikonia> luist: define the error
[16:20] <under> nydel: yes,
[16:20] <luist> ikonia: just did
[16:20] <ikonia> luist: how you fix it depends how you broke it
[16:20] <Cong> ikonia, I have it installed and configured, but the programs won't run.
[16:21] <ikonia> luist: no, you've not
[16:21] <ikonia> Cong: respond to gordonjcp first
[16:21] <ikonia> luist: you've just said "can't use it"
[16:21] <nydel> under: it seems to me that all the launchers should be in the filesystem!
[16:21] <luist> ikonia: cant chmod because i cant use sudo… obviously because it has the wrong permissions -.-
[16:21] <C8H10N4O2> you only stated you created a new file never said how you actually broke it
[16:21] <luist> ikonia: well the error is: sudo: /etc/sudoers.d/99-content is mode 0644, should be 0440
[16:21] <Cong> gordonjcp, I'm using it to control the computer.
[16:21] <ikonia> luist: ok, you need to give the error
[16:21] <luist> ikonia: just did
[16:21] <under> nydel: becouse I launch teamspeak 3 in console using ' sh teamspeak.sh' then I lock it in the crappy bar. when I close it from console and I click on the icon on the bar, it wont open
[16:21] <ikonia> luist: adding a file shouldn't break it, so it depends how you've broke it
[16:21] <gordonjcp> Cong: what, to get a remote shell?
[16:22] <gordonjcp> Cong: don't use telnet, use ssh
[16:22] <ikonia> luist: no, you've not fiven an error, you've tried to explain what you think the problem is
[16:22] <nydel> under: i bet you're locking sh
[16:22] <FlyingElvis> where in ubuntu are the graphic settings...as in all the pretty bling
[16:22] <luist> ikonia: i just copied: sudo: /etc/sudoers.d/99-content is mode 0644, should be 0440!!!!!!!!
[16:22] <under> nydel: yeah
[16:22] <ikonia> luist: that's nothing to do with sudo that's the umask
[16:22] <nydel> under: what if you make a script, put it in your $PATH somewhere, call it "teamspeak" then launch THAT & pin it to the launcher?
[16:22] <ikonia> luist: you said sudo was broke, that's nothing to do with sudo
[16:22] <luist> ikonia: are u crazy? this is obviously about sudo
[16:22] <nydel> teamspeak is just #!/bin/bash newline sh teamspeak.sh
[16:23] <ikonia> luist: you said you can't use sudo  - you can use sudo
[16:23] <ikonia> luist: no, it's not
[16:23] <ikonia> luist: the file creation mask is set wrong
[16:23] <nydel> (teamspeak the file) then set it to 755
[16:23] <luist> ikonia: i cant use sudo when the permission of the damn sudoers are not 0440
[16:23] <Cong> gordonjcp, telnet and ssh are the same thing right. one is safer and the other is insecure. So I need a remote shell?
[16:23] <ikonia> luist: adding that file shouldn't break the default sudo rules
[16:23] <luist> ikonia: thats nothing to do with the umask
[16:23] <gordonjcp> Cong: no, they are not the same thing
[16:23] <ikonia> luist: please show me the output of sudo chmod on that file
[16:23] <luist> ikonia: how do i fix it then mr
[16:23] <under> nydel: nice idea, where is the correct path to put this script?
[16:23] <nydel> under: i had to do what i just said in order to get some programs to launch at startup.
[16:23] <gordonjcp> Cong: telnet is insecure and obsolete, use ssh
[16:24] <ikonia> luist: sorry, I can't be bothered any more
[16:24] <luist> that line that i pasted is exatly the output of that command -.-
[16:24] <nydel> under: anywhere in your $PATH variable. "echo $PATH" -- personally, i have a "bin" in my home, & ~/bin is in my $PATH by my own modification of a login profile here or there
[16:25] <luist> ikonia: http://pastie.org/5068564
[16:25] <nydel> under: i'd put it in /usr/share/
[16:25] <luist> ikonia: oh well
[16:25] <ikonia> luist: I'm not interested, I can't be bothered begging you for info
[16:25] <nydel> under: i meant /usr/sbin/
[16:25] <Cong> gordonjcp, rsh can execute program on the computer?
[16:25] <nydel> under: but make sure that /usr/sbin is in your path
[16:25] <luist> ikonia: but i already gave you the info…
[16:25] <Promethes> when default monospaced font in Firefox will be fixed or changed? For a couple of years i see almost unreadable monospaced font on some websites
[16:26] <luist> ikonia: even before you asked… i said thats the output for ALL sudo commands
[16:26] <llutz> luist: boot into recovery/life-cd and fix permissions
[16:26] <gordonjcp> Cong: yeah, but the problem is that rsh can execute any program on the computer with very little control over who gets to do it
[16:26] <under> nydel: I try to do that, thanks.
[16:26] <gordonjcp> Cong: use ssh
[16:27] <gordonjcp> Cong: forget you even heard about telnet
[16:27] <luist> llutz: oh thanks! that might work
[16:27] <llutz> luist you're not alone :( http://www.peppertop.com/blog/?p=1015
[16:27] <nydel> under: if you do it, please tell me whether it works! thank you
[16:27] <luist> llutz: actually that was much more helpful than ikonia NOT trying to help! :)
[16:28] <gordonjcp> Cong: telnet has been made obsolete by ssh, and this happened over ten years ago ;-)
[16:28] <llutz> luist: next time read /etc/sudoers.d/README earlier
[16:28] <delinquentme> how can I free up a serial port? /dev/ttyAMC0   usually runs my arduino ... but somehow something is occupying it
[16:29] <melvster1> hi all, anyone know if there's a way for your 'startup' applications to launch in a particular workspace?
[16:29] <michealPW> llutz: hehe, I don't think you can read that README if you can't do sudo (Unless you use a liveCD?)
[16:29] <llutz> michealPW: true
[16:30] <llutz> most stupiest "sudo-improvement" i ever heard of
[16:31] <michealPW> luist: You have to set the perfmissions for your sudoers directory to read/execute, read/execute and none using: chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[16:31] <michealPW> luist: Since your sudo is broken, you can't do that from your system. Put in a liveCD and boot from it. Mount your drive (It just automatically mount it once you browse to it)  then issue that command. Should fix your problem, I think :P
[16:31] <michealPW> Not sure how your permissions got changed in the first place, though? Meh, I'm not an expert :P
[16:32] <unknown> hi, where can i find a guide on how to modify a package and rebuild it? (i want alpine with some patches)
[16:32] <llutz> michealPW: they haven't got changed, this will always happen if you create a new file in that directory while having a umask of 0022
[16:32] <michealPW> llutz: It can be frustrating.. Since Ubuntu doesn't have a root account setup by default so if sudo gets broken hehe you don't have many options to troubleshoot unless you kinda already know what you're doing hehe
[16:32] <michealPW> llutz: Ahh, I see! So that's what Ikano was talking about, then? :)
[16:33] <llutz> michealPW: and this makes the usage of /etc/sudoers.d/ very dangerous
[16:33] <llutz> michealPW: idk honestly
[16:33] <SurrealNick> i have fglrx installation problems..anyone help?
[16:33] <michealPW> Yea :\
[16:33] <the-light> Hi all! I've problem with ubuntu 12.04. I cann't find any wireless network work in band G. any idea?
[16:34] <nydel> the-light: can you find networks in other bands
[16:34] <the-light> nydel: yes only this band i cann't find it
[16:35] <nydel> the-light: you have other devices that find your g network?
[16:36] <TJ-> michealPW: luist You don't need a liveCD - just reboot into Recovery mode. That leads to a single-user mode root shell
[16:36] <the-light> nydel: in windows 7 I and my friend find
[16:36] <luist> TJ-: oh :)
[16:36] <michealPW> TJ-: Ah, thank you. I didn't know that :P
[16:37] <michealPW> TJ-: In the GRUB2 menu, the recovery mode option?
[16:37] <TJ-> michealPW: Yes, that's the one
[16:37] <michealPW> mm, thx mate :P
[16:38] <under> nydel: doesnt work.
[16:38] <under> crappy bar!!
[16:38] <luist> TJ-: btw how do i do that? when i boot it goes straight to the login screen
[16:38] <nydel> gutted! sorry under - i have an idea, one more, if you're interested?
[16:38] <llutz> luist: hold left-shift at boottime to get grub-menu
[16:39] <under> nydel: sure.
[16:39] <nydel> under: sudo apt-get install myunity
[16:39] <SurrealNick> how do i sort out the fglrx installation problems, i cant update my system
[16:39] <nydel> under: i remember that in myunity you have the ability to change the code on the launcher bar. take a look
[16:40] <nydel> under: i forgot about it until right now
[16:41] <SurrealNick> i have a red error icon in the top bar near the date/logout options..running ubuntu 12.04
[16:42] <deadmund> SurrealNick: It wants you to update your software I believe.
[16:42] <deadmund> SurrealNick: try clicking the arrow :P
[16:42] <SurrealNick> yeah, but i cant update
[16:42] <deadmund> clicking the icon*
[16:42] <deadmund> SurrealNick: why?
[16:42] <SurrealNick> the package system is broken
[16:43] <deadmund> SurrealNick: what happens if you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[16:44] <compdoc> if you wanted to assign a user and group to a folder so that an average user can access it, what user and group would you use?
[16:44] <SurrealNick> ok..the apt-get update seemed to work
[16:44] <tonynakedmolerat> how long should dd take to copy  if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc sitting on same mobo?  The HDD are 750GB
[16:44] <under> nydel: cant figure out...
[16:44] <unknown> hi, where can i find a guide on how to modify a package and rebuild it? (i want alpine with some patches)
[16:44] <under> :|
[16:45] <ikonia> tonynakedmolerat: it depends on many things
[16:45] <SurrealNick> i get a popup though
[16:45] <SurrealNick> system program problem detected
[16:45] <SurrealNick> and asks if i want to report the problem
[16:45] <deadmund> SurrealNick: can you tell regarding what program?
[16:46] <SurrealNick> nope
[16:46] <SurrealNick> ive also lost the top taskbar and program launcher bar
[16:46] <tonynakedmolerat> ikonia: just looking ballpark, I thought maybe 40 min, but its going on 2 hours....not sure when to say "something not right"
[16:46] <deadmund> probably those programs!
[16:46] <ikonia> tonynakedmolerat: how big did you set the block size
[16:46] <deadmund> SurrealNick: bugs!
[16:46] <SurrealNick> it'll probably come back if i restart
[16:47] <SurrealNick> ive tried sudo apt-get -f install fglrx  but i get errors
[16:47] <deadmund> SurrealNick: yeah
[16:47] <deadmund> SurrealNick: what are the errors?
[16:47] <SurrealNick> just getting them
[16:48] <wifioregon> When does Ubuntu 12.10 come out?
[16:48] <SurrealNick> errors were encoutered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.960-0ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
[16:48] <ThinkT510> wifioregon: 18th
[16:48] <wifioregon> ThinkT510:  thanks
[16:48] <SurrealNick> sub provess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:48] <SurrealNick> sub process*
[16:49] <deadmund> SurrealNick:  Can you pastebin the entire message?  paste.ubuntu.com
[16:49] <SurrealNick> those are the last 2 line
[16:49] <hilarie> herro... could someone explain this to me http://imagebin.org/232182
[16:49] <wifioregon> deadmund:  whoah cool. I didnt know Ubuntu had a paste page
[16:49] <SurrealNick> give me a sec..im on irc on a different computer
[16:49] <deadmund> ha
[16:49] <deadmund> yep
[16:49] <deadmund> SurrealNick: oo ok :)
[16:49] <lolcats_> someone tell me that only lts releases are good to use because ones like 12.10 are beta for next lts this true?
[16:49] <luist> how do i reset the sudo timer/cache? i want it to ask for a password again, like the first time
[16:49] <deadmund> lolcats_: that's opinion
[16:50] <llutz> luist: sudo -k
[16:50] <wifioregon> I usually like to wait till editions are "fully" released
[16:50] <lolcats_> k just seeing i was not sure
[16:50] <fidel_> hilarie: maybe related with non-complete download/file?
[16:50] <wifioregon> I find myself still having to boot to 10.04 once in a while.  Luckily I can use 12.04 most of the time though.
[16:51] <luist> llutz: thanks :)
[16:51] <hilarie> fidel_, ?
[16:51] <SurrealNick> deadmund: paste.ubuntu.com/1283419
[16:52] <deadmund> SurrealNick: there is a folder missing (for some reason).  sudo mkdir /usr/share/ati
[16:52] <SurrealNick> ok.i'll run that then the install fglrx again then?
[16:52] <deadmund> SurrealNick: give it a shot, yeah
[16:53] <hilarie> http://download.thinkbroadband.com/10MB.zip comes out to be 83mb on disk
[16:53] <SurrealNick> says it cant create directory, file exists
[16:53] <deadmund> SurrealNick: Although, as you can see, the error is trying to uninstall fglrx which is bizarre
[16:53] <deadmund> SurrealNick: sudo touch /etc/ati/fglrx-uninstall.log  then?
[16:53] <deadmund> SurrealNick: See the line I'm trying to interpret?
[16:53] <Guest63517> man irssi
[16:54] <SurrealNick> i think so
[16:54] <SurrealNick> the uninstall.log doesnt exist
[16:54] <ThinkT510> Guest63517: man pages are open in terminals
[16:54] <SurrealNick> which line is it?
[16:54] <deadmund> SurrealNick: Not sure what you're asking.  What _line_ is it?
[16:55] <deadmund> SurrealNick: line 16 in the pastebin
[16:55] <SurrealNick> ah ok
[16:55] <SurrealNick> still stuck though :/
[16:56] <deadmund> SurrealNick: same error?
[16:56] <SurrealNick> yeah, the uninstall.log doesnt exist
[16:56] <deadmund> SurrealNick: is it gone now?  Did you spell it correctly?
[16:57] <SurrealNick> yeah
[16:57] <SurrealNick> it cannot touch /etc/ati/fglrx-uninstall.log no such file
[16:57] <deadmund> SurrealNick: the command 'touch' should create that file
[16:57] <SurrealNick> ok
[16:58] <SurrealNick> try which command again?
[16:58] <deadmund> SurrealNick: sudo apt-get remove fglrx
[16:59] <SurrealNick> i'll paste the results in the pastebin
[16:59] <deadmund> ok
[17:00] <SurrealNick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283436/
[17:00] <SurrealNick> i'll try the apt-get -f install?
[17:01] <SurrealNick> or something else?
[17:01] <deadmund> SurrealNick: do this: sudo apt-get remove fglrx-amdcccle
[17:02] <SurrealNick> seems to have done, although /usr/share/ati is not empty and so not removed
[17:02] <deadmund> SurrealNick: now try sudo apt-get remove fglrx
[17:02] <javier_> hola
[17:03] <SurrealNick> ok..fglrx is not installed..but..theres some packages auto installed and no longer required
[17:03] <SurrealNick> new paste coming..
[17:03] <luist> guys… can i specify parameters on a sudoers rule? i want to give permission to run a command but only when used with parameter -c for example
[17:03] <deadmund> SurrealNick: To remove those packages: sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:03] <SurrealNick> ok
[17:04] <SurrealNick> doine
[17:04] <SurrealNick> done..even
[17:04] <deadmund> luist: I don't think so, but you can write a bash script that calls the command for the user (with the flags hard coded into the bash script)  and give sudoers the power to run that script
[17:04] <deadmund> SurrealNick: we're done
[17:05] <SurrealNick> ok...now what?
[17:05] <deadmund> SurrealNick: we're done?  What do you want?
[17:05] <deadmund> SurrealNick: I thought all you wanted to do was remove fglrx
[17:05] <SurrealNick> i was expecting something else
[17:06] <SurrealNick> was hoping to fix whatever problems i was having
[17:06] <deadmund> SurrealNick: What is your goal?
[17:06] <SurrealNick> with the graphic drives
[17:06] <deadmund> SurrealNick: what problems are you having?
[17:06] <SurrealNick> drivers
[17:06] <deadmund> SurrealNick: "drivers" is not a problem.  It is a plural noun.
[17:07] <SurrealNick> just restarted, will see if im able to update
[17:07] <deadmund> oh yes, updating
[17:07] <deadmund> :)\
[17:07] <javier_> hello
[17:07] <SurrealNick> still got the popup: system program problem detected
[17:08] <SurrealNick> crash report
[17:08] <deadmund> SurrealNick: that is likely unrelated to the graphics.  Can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[17:09] <SurrealNick> another one now..Sorry Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error
[17:10] <SurrealNick> show details, and it shows ExecutablePath /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test
[17:10] <deadmund> SurrealNick: pastebin please :)
[17:10] <llutz> luist: check "cmnd_alias"
[17:10] <deadmund> SurrealNick: pastebin the output from the terminal commands specifically
[17:11] <SurrealNick> ok..give me a ses
[17:11] <SurrealNick> sec
[17:12]  * deadmund gives a ses
[17:12] <SurrealNick> thanks ;)
[17:13] <SurrealNick> paste.ubuntu.com/1283470/
[17:15] <SurrealNick> got a popup saying there was a problem installing software for the package: fglrx 2:8.960-0ubuntu1.1
[17:15] <SurrealNick> and that 'precise' is no longer under development
[17:16] <deadmund> reading...
[17:16] <SurrealNick> ok
[17:16] <deadmund> :P
[17:17] <deadmund> SurrealNick: sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:17] <SurrealNick> ok
[17:18] <SurrealNick> its upgrading..
[17:18] <deadmund> SurrealNick: good :)
[17:18] <SurrealNick> ok done
[17:18] <SurrealNick> no errors that i could see
[17:19] <klopjob> is the freenode server all about computer related stuff?
[17:19] <deadmund> SurrealNick: are there any more problems?
[17:19] <[twisti]> computer, programming, mobile phones, etc
[17:20] <SurrealNick> not yet :P
[17:20] <SurrealNick> will try the updates and see if i can try to replicate some of the problems i was having
[17:21] <deadmund> You've reached freenode, a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center (PDPC). freenode provides discussion facilities for the Free and Open Source Software communities, for not-for-profit organizations and for related communities and organizations
[17:23] <SurrealNick> well, some problems have fixed
[17:24] <SurrealNick> got a new one, the application unity_support_test has closed unexpectedly
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> SurrealNick, Please use the nick of who you are talking to you can use the tab to complete nics. ;)
[17:25] <SurrealNick> ok :)
[17:25] <SurrealNick> deadmund: new problem
[17:25] <Tonythenakedmole> Sorry lost network. Did I miss reply.
[17:25] <SurrealNick> deadmund: the application unity_support_test has closed unexpectedly
[17:25] <deadmund> SurrealNick: IDK what that is! :o
[17:25] <SurrealNick> hehe, neither do i
[17:26] <john_doe_jr> What does the following command do? sudo sed -i 's/apache2\/mod_mono.conf/apache2\/mods-enabled\/mod_mono.conf/g'
[17:27] <L3top> on its own, nothing john_doe_jr. The sed would need a destination file
[17:27] <valnour> john_doe_jr: `man sed` whould answer most of your questions
[17:28] <john_doe_jr> alright I know that the -i (from the man pages) stands for in place substitution....
[17:28] <john_doe_jr> is the brackets like /apache2/ the things we are looking for ?
[17:28] <crizis> john_doe_jr, correct way for to do what that command likely is trying to do: sudo a2enmod mod_mono
[17:28] <L3top> SurrealNick: my money would be on a utility which figures out which level of unity to run for your gpu.
[17:28] <crizis> (enable mod_mono)
[17:30] <john_doe_jr> I did but the configuration files already have mod_mono in enabled
[17:30] <L3top> john_doe_jr: example sed in place: sed -i 's/change this/to this/g' /in/this/file      where s= substitute and g= globally (ie every occurrance)
[17:31] <SurrealNick> L3top: ok, i did a quick google search for it, and editing a file in geddit to disable something seems to be the answer..i cant remember what it was now, ive closed it down
[17:31] <john_doe_jr> L3top: thank you very much!
[17:33] <qwebirc843290> finally, wifi back up
[17:35] <qwebirc843290> so I ran dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc on 750GB drives....and its still going, for some 3 hours.  any ballpark ideas for how long it will take?  What I can do better next time?  Thanks.
[17:36] <bogdan> Anyone here know their way around autoconf and ./configure?
[17:36] <bogdan> part of an installation, I've had to run autoconf on a file, then run configure
[17:36] <ThinkT510> qwebirc843290: 750gb is huge
[17:37] <bogdan> I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283517/
[17:37] <qwebirc843290> I know that now....but I would really like to let if finish :(
[17:38] <ThinkT510> qwebirc843290: what processor?
[17:38] <qwebirc843290> but I would also like to know if something is wrong too.  All I seen is blinking hdd lights for 3 hours+
[17:38] <qwebirc843290> ThinkT510: its a quad core 2.4G
[17:38] <ThinkT510> qwebirc843290: ah, good
[17:38] <qwebirc843290> ThinkT510: 8GB ram
[17:39] <gordonjcp> qwebirc843290: add "bs=4M"
[17:45] <jackhill> Hello, I am trying to congfigure policykit to only allow admins to shutdown (and reboot and sleep) the system. This is the file I have added to /etc/polkit-1/localauthorith/50-local.d/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/1283535
[17:46] <jackhill> However, I am not getting the expected results. Even an uprivledged user can shutdown the system. If I change all the auth_admin to no it works as expected, no one can shut it down.
[17:47] <jackhill> This is on 12.10
[17:47] <islandmonkey> jackhill: #ubuntu+1 for all things 12.10 (until Oct 18)
[17:48] <jackhill> islandmonkey: okay, I'll ask there (I didn't realize it was 12.10 specific).
[17:50] <Penth> Does anyone have Ekiga working properly in Precise?
[17:50] <paul_> can anyone help out what password should i give in thunderbird its telling password is incorrect ?
[17:51] <islandmonkey> paul_: What, email password?
[17:51] <WeThePeople> paul_, the pass you used in the email account
[17:51] <Penth> Paul, do you mean your mailbox password? That's per account.
[17:51] <paul_> yeah i give my yahoo password nut it doesnt work?
[17:51] <islandmonkey> paul_: Hmm, PM me
[17:51] <paul_> sorry not nut its but
[17:52] <Penth> Are you using your full yahoo email addres and pointing to the right server for POP3 or whever transport protocol you're using?
[17:52] <paul_> its telling pop.so and so is not responding since wrong password
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> paul_, Thunderbird will not read a free yahoo acct, without some supposed tweaks.
[17:53] <estelle> Quelqu'un est français dans le coin?
[17:53] <paul_> oh so what should i do to it?
[17:53] <islandmonkey> !fr | estelle
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> !who > paul_
[17:58] <Malsasa> Hello, I am using 12.04 now. I use CCSM. I config my swift switcher but it seems not like old Ubuntu version. When I press WIN TAB, yes the swift switcher appear. But I should press enter to choose a window. I want it is like old Ubuntu, just release the WIN TAB and a window selected. How to config that? Or, any link I can open?
[18:00] <Penth> Does anyone have Ekiga working properly in Precise? I can't actually register to any SIP server even though I'm seeing a 200 OK response in wireshark.
[18:00] <harovali> hi, I'm managing a Lucid Ubuntu Server, and I needed the newer kernels because of the bug that made sync() stall everything.
[18:00] <harovali> I did apt-cache search -n linux image backport  , and the newest kernel available seems to be 3.0.0 (linux-image-server-lts-backport-oneiric).
[18:00] <harovali> I installed it, but problems persist, and I'd like to install a 3.2.x kernel.
[18:00] <harovali> Is there a backported kernel 3.2.x to Lucid?
[18:00] <islandmonkey> !enter | harovali
[18:00] <harovali> islandmonkey: I'll do as you suggest
[18:01] <chimney> hi
[18:01] <harovali> Can the content of my question still be considered?
[18:01] <islandmonkey> harovali: Yes, there are 1719 people here, someone may know
[18:02] <Malsasa> islandmonkey: can you help me? My question above about compiz swift switcher.
[18:02] <harovali> islandmonkey: ok
[18:02] <Wonkydonk> hi guys i need someone help with audio sync when watching movies streamed in firefox
[18:02] <islandmonkey> Malsasa: Sorry no
[18:02] <islandmonkey> I don't even dare to touch CCSM
[18:03] <Malsasa> islandmonkey: okay, thank you :)
[18:03] <quiliro> L3top: https://lists.parabolagnulinux.org/pipermail/dev/2012-October/000893.html
[18:03] <Wonkydonk> the audio is always out of sync
[18:04] <islandmonkey> Malsasa: Well, there probably is a way, but it's gonna use CCSM (and everyone should know how dangerous CCSM is)
[18:04] <Wonkydonk> and it seems to have happened ever since i install veetle software
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> Malsasa, In case needed there is a #compiz channel as well.
[18:04] <Malsasa> islandmonkey: oooh, yes, I understand. Dangerous enough :)
[18:04] <islandmonkey> Same with harovali, you may have better luck in #ubuntu-server
[18:05] <Malsasa> wilee-nilee: thank you. I dont know there is such channel :)
[18:05] <islandmonkey> Wonkydonk: What's veetle?
[18:06] <islandmonkey> *doesn't see it in Ubuntu repos*
[18:06] <Wonkydonk> it streams tv shows via browser
[18:06] <Wonkydonk> its not on repos
[18:07] <danielbarbul> can somebody tell me where is Blackbuntu channel?
[18:07] <bazhang> !alis | danielbarbul have a search
[18:08] <harovali> islandmonkey: thanks
[18:08] <danielbarbul> #join
[18:09] <L3top> quiliro: I am unfamiliar with devmon, but I would use rsync over cp -r.
[18:09] <islandmonkey> Wonkeydonk: Probably unrelated and is more likely to be something up with Flash. And we all know how terrible flash is :)
[18:09] <islandmonkey> Wonkydonk: Probably unrelated and is more likely to be something up with Flash. And we all know how terrible flash is :)
[18:10] <grammoboy> i've made a torrent file, how can my friends download the torrent?
[18:10] <quiliro> L3top: Thanks for the suggestion
[18:10] <grammoboy> vuze
[18:11] <Wonkydonk> is there away of fixing the sync problem with flash?
[18:11] <Wonkydonk> it happens on firefox and chrom
[18:12] <islandmonkey> Wonkydonk: Not that I can think of. You never know, there might be someone around here that can help
[18:13] <Wonkydonk> its really starting to get on my nerves
[18:13] <Wonkydonk> it was fine yesterday and as soon as i installed veetle it screwed up
[18:15] <L3top> quiliro: Ok to pm?
[18:16] <DarsVaeda> in the native desktop sharing preferences, when allowing others to view my desktop
[18:16] <DarsVaeda> do I have to restart to have it working?
[18:16] <crizis> relogin should be enough
[18:17] <DarsVaeda> or should it work immediately
[18:17] <crizis> assuming you had to install some packages
[18:17] <crizis> otherwise it should just work
[18:17] <DarsVaeda> I read somewhere the server must be started
[18:18] <Hunan> New to ubuntu here.. tried it a long time ago and didn't like it taking another stab, but I can't seem to get my right click functionality on my clickpad (touchpad)
[18:18] <Hunan> Anyone know how I enable it?
[18:18] <DarsVaeda> how can I debug this? I just get a "connection refused" in my remote viewer, unsure if the router disallows or if the server is just not running properly
[18:18] <llutz> DarsVaeda: "sudo lsof -i :portno" on the server
[18:19] <DarsVaeda> hunan: usually it helps to google your device identifier + enable touchpad :)
[18:19] <llutz> DarsVaeda: "portno" = the port the service should listen
[18:20] <Hunan> Dars... I have haha. People in this community always assume the worstwhen someone says they're new
[18:20] <DarsVaeda> llutz: okay thanks, I'll see if I can get the user with the server to type that in ^^
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> Hunan, If you don't tell what you have done how are we to know, it just wastes our time.  So many come on here with little or no details.
[18:22] <K350> What wget switch to use if I just wanan check a part of the page conent withut having to save it to a file?
[18:23] <islandmonkey> K350: Do wget --help to find out
[18:23] <drag0nius> how do i use jar command without installing java package?
[18:23] <drag0nius> i've link to jar at /usr/bin
[18:23] <drag0nius> but it still asks me to install package
[18:23] <jrib> K350: "-O -" will have wget send the page to stdout
[18:23] <ThinkT510> drag0nius: you don't
[18:23] <islandmonkey> drag0nius: That's impossible
[18:24] <drag0nius> why so?
[18:24] <OerHeks> drag0nius, minecraft ?
[18:24] <llutz> drag0nius: because you need something interpreting the java-stuff fromthe .jar-file
[18:25] <islandmonkey> drag0nius: Well, it's a bit like saying "Can you run LibreOffice without an operating system?"
[18:25] <islandmonkey> Of course not
[18:25] <drag0nius>  /usr/bin is parth of PATH
[18:25] <drag0nius> so it should search for commands there, before checking for package
[18:25] <drag0nius> but it doesnt
[18:26] <ThinkT510> drag0nius: jar requires java, you can't use jar without java
[18:26] <llutz> drag0nius: jar-files are not executable on its own, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAR_(file_format)
[18:26] <islandmonkey> drag0nius: ^...they require the Java interpreter
[18:27] <drag0nius> i'm talking about jar exec from java/bin
[18:27] <drag0nius> i've oracle java installed manually, but can't run that jar exec
[18:28] <islandmonkey> drag0nius: All things installed manually should go in /opt
[18:28] <drag0nius> it tells me that its part of one of 10 packages and tells me to install one of them
[18:28] <drag0nius> instead of searching /usr/bin for 'jar'
[18:28] <drag0nius> i've java under /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0
[18:29] <OerHeks> drag0nius, check the !java factoid howto set java jdk to standard
[18:29] <islandmonkey> drag0nius: That's because the java exec is called java, not jar
[18:29] <islandmonkey> If I'm right in saying
[18:30] <drag0nius> could somebody just explain me why it does not see /usr/bin/jar ?
[18:30] <drag0nius> even tho its part of PATH environmental variable
[18:30] <islandmonkey> drag0nius: Can you post the command you are running?
[18:31] <drag0nius> jar cvfm x.jar manifest.txt bin/*.class
[18:31] <wols_> drag0nius: could be some lib is missing "ldd /usr/bin/jar"
[18:31] <wols_> islandmonkey: jar is the java archiver
[18:32] <K350> jrib: Ah..great...thansk a LOT! :-)
[18:33] <drag0nius> wols_ ur familiar with manual compiling java?
[18:35] <drag0nius> looks like i compiled with javac, but dont really have idea how to run it
[18:35] <wols_> drag0nius: no, never did it. why?
[18:35] <wols_> you mean you don't know how to run a java program you have compield to a .class file?
[18:35] <wols_> you can do this with "java" or "javaw". but first, try "java -version"
[18:36] <wols_> drag0nius: java helloworld    will run your helloworld.class file if you are in its directory
[18:37] <drag0nius> yeah, but what about those additional libraries?
[18:38] <noiro> hey guys
[18:38] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[18:38] <drag0nius> im getting noclassdeffound
[18:38] <noiro> anyone know how to get gnome to switch desktops on my other screen too?
[18:38] <black_13> how do i setup ubuntu to auto login
[18:39] <noiro> It moves up on my main screen, but the window remains on my other
[18:39] <drag0nius> hmm think i got it
[18:40] <drag0nius> gotta include lib folder in classpath
[18:40] <drag0nius> and just * instead of *.jar
[18:41] <john_doe_jr> I did a sudo dpkg —configure a and now my apache web server will not restart…I've tried pressing Control + C to get the command line back but nothing works…any ideas why this is happening?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !zeitgeist > lotuspsychje
[18:42] <wols_> john_doe_jr: If -a or --pending is given instead of package, all unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.
[18:43] <john_doe_jr> wols_: what does that mean?
[18:43] <wols_> john_doe_jr: list all tasks to see which package it's working on right now. use sudo to actually see all
[18:43] <dury> avconv
[18:43] <wols_> john_doe_jr: it goes through all installed packages and checks if they need configuring and does it when they do
[18:43] <john_doe_jr> wols_: what command do you want me to run then?
[18:43] <wols_> ps for starts. as I said: list ALL tasks
[18:44] <dury> did someone install avconv?
[18:44] <dury> wols_: hi there :-) busy?
[18:45] <dury> wols_: have u got time to help me
[18:46] <genii-around> dury: avconv is in the package libav-tools
[18:46] <uw> hmm is there a way to see what packages have changed from the last LTS
[18:46] <uw> I mean quick easy way
[18:46] <bekks> uw: Assume "every package".
[18:47] <uw> like a list of both default ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04
[18:47] <uw> bekks, yea as i'm finding out
[18:47] <wols_> dury: just ask. never ask if you can ask
[18:47] <bekks> uw: or do you just mean the package names?
[18:47] <temporary> Can anyone help this *beginner* run Korganizer as a background service?
[18:48] <uw> bekks, well, say gpg for example.  i believe the version is different on 12.04 as from 10.04 and would just like to compare them
[18:48] <wols_> temporary: §nohup korganizer &§ should do it (I hope)
[18:48] <uw> with out going through source and looking at each one
[18:48] <uw> the sources of both
[18:48] <wols_> uw: distrowatch is one way. but not for all packages, but for many programs
[18:48] <bekks> uw: So basically you want to diff the output of "dpkg -l"
[18:48] <wols_> temporary: "nohup korganizer &"  rather
[18:48] <uw> yes, but i dont have the 10.04 anymore.
[18:49] <uw> just curious if anyone knew of such a list
[18:49] <dury> so if libav-tools package it's installed avconv it's in there?
[18:49] <bekks> uw: I'd just install a 10.04 vm, for getting the dpkg -l from a fresh install.
[18:49] <uw> it's not even worth making a script to get both sources and diffing them
[18:49] <john_doe_jr> Alright so what does the sudo dpkg —configure -a —pending  do?
[18:49] <bekks> uw: Why do you want to do that effort anyway?
[18:50] <wols_> john_doe_jr: it tries to configure all packages you have unpacked to disk but not configured yet
[18:50] <temporary> wols:  Sory I am lost already! I have Korganizer -q in my {System}{Startup Applications} but I don't think it runs. Wherre would I pu the nohup korganizer &  ?
[18:50] <john_doe_jr> wols_: what is the difference between that command and sudo dpkg —configure -a?
[18:51] <uw> bekks, eh it's probably not even worth that effort.  I  want to do that anyway because i believe I am having issues with GPG and think the version has changed from 10.04-12.04.  curious of other programs that have changed
[18:51] <uw> because maybe it's not gpg's fault
[18:51] <wols_> john_doe_jr: nothing, it's the same
[18:51] <uw> if it comes down to it, ill just make a 10.04 vm and do as you said
[18:52] <bekks> uw: Well, the easy way: check the versions of gpg for both releases on packages.ubuntu.com
[18:52] <Guest62074> hy, can someone reccomend me a web site with themes for xubuntu?
[18:52] <wols_> uw: pretty much all have changed due to the long time between those two versions
[18:52] <foirin> ?
[18:53] <john_doe_jr> wols_: well once stalls my computer when apache tries to reboot and the other doesn't
[18:53] <uw> wols_, yea true.  i really wanted to know the version of the program i guess, to view the release notes to see any major stuff changed
[18:53] <bekks> uw: packages.ubuntu.com ...
[18:54] <wols_> john_doe_jr: why do you even run it?
[18:54] <temporary> *Beginner tries again*: How can I make Korganizer PIM run as a silent service ? I have tried using an autorun Korganizer -q, but nothing happens.
[18:55] <uw> bekks, thats what ill probably do.  It would be cool to have a list or table, with columns being the distro version, and rows being the programs and cells being the respective versions (if installed at all)
[18:55] <uw> meh it's nice to want things lOL
[18:55] <wols_> temporary: the command I gave you didn't work? and isn't korganizer a GUI program?
[18:55] <uw> maybe i saw this in a dream or something
[18:55] <jrib> uw: if you make it then you will have it :)
[18:55] <john_doe_jr> wols_: b/c I'm trying to install some other software
[18:56] <uw> no biggie, thanks bekks / wols_
[18:56] <wols_> john_doe_jr: that doesn't explain why you would want to run it at all
[18:56] <irc3> I hooked my HDMI cable up to my laptop... the video is working fine.. the audio is still playing through the laptop
[18:56] <wols_> john_doe_jr: the debconf script is always run automatically
[18:56] <irc3> I see no options in the audio settings to change it
[18:56] <irc3> *sound settings
[18:56] <john_doe_jr> sudo a2enmod mod_rewrite enables rewrite in apache right?
[18:56] <uw> jrib, true true.  Tell you what if i come across ONE more issue i will make the list.  it's something that could be scripted at disto build time, rather than backwards going through it.
[18:57] <uw> but enough wining out of me
[18:57] <temporary> wols: Sorry I did not know what to do with the "command" you told me. Yes Korganizer is a GUI. I am running it from {System}{Startup Applications}. It runs fine, but I need it "silent" as a service.
[18:58] <jrib> uw: well the main issue is that the list would be very long unless you were only interested in specific packages
[18:58] <wols_> temporary: and how would you access the data it holds when it runs in the background without any output?
[18:58] <tziOm> What would I edit to change the default language settings and so on in boot image?
[18:58] <wols_> uw: and over time, many packages change names too even when they still do the same things
[18:58] <gardllok> I broke my apt :( I get this error while trying to install or remove ANYTHING http://pastebin.com/vB9i6i2U started getting this error after attemping to install virtualbox (failed) Not sure if I broke apt or something in the kernel. Blackbuntu modified to use 3.0.1-030001-generic.
[18:59] <t00k> just got ubuntu!
[18:59] <dury> some has experience with avconv?
[18:59] <K350> how to find out on what line a certain string is in a file?
[18:59] <temporary> wols: So what I am hoping for (is this absurd, perhaps) is for it to run silently the way it would when I run it iin the forerground, i.e. to access its calendar and implement the "Alarms" which are programmed in.
[18:59] <dury> is it possible to convert .mp4 to .avi with avconv?
[19:00] <gardllok> can somone help me with this error?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> dury, avi is a container
[19:00] <dury> wilee-nilee: what you mean?
[19:01] <bkfitz_> excellent
[19:01] <wols_> temporary: check if there is a way for kde programs to start minimized then?
[19:01] <wols_> dury: probably not since one or both of the codecs you'd need are proprietary
[19:02] <dury> wilee-nilee: the thing it's that I want to edit a .mp4 file
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> dury, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave
[19:02] <wols_> dury: if you get a non-free avconv you can
[19:03] <juniour_> k350 try this cat compiz | pr -n -d -t | grep "./compiz"
[19:03] <juniour_> sorry
[19:03] <dury> is it possible to edit a .mp4 file with ubuntu 12.04
[19:03] <juniour_> k350 try this $cat file | pr -n -d -t | grep "string"
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> dury:edit in what way
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> dury, Instead of asking of possibilities you don't describe, give your final gaol.
[19:04] <llutz> K350: grep -n foo file
[19:06] <dury> to add more frames and add another music for the mp4 I'm editing that's all
[19:07] <dury> lotuspsychje: how do you see that?
[19:13] <temporary> wols: Ah, that sounds promising -- start minimized --  it would serve the purpose, I expect. I have failed to find a list of switches which would include "-minimized", can you advise?
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> dury, I see avidemux the web for this sort of thing, personally I have no idea.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> on*
[19:16] <bazhang> dury, consider Openshot
[19:19] <tonika> hi can someone help. I have lost the launcher bar after a fresh install of ubuntu. I tried to change the display setting to allowdual display instead of mirroring and it has since gone
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> dury, Now raise your right hand and swear this is not another Rick-Roll. ;)
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> tonika, Where did you do this? Unity right?
[19:22] <tonika> yeah in the display settings
[19:22] <jabba_> hello, I am trying to configure a ipsec-l2tpd (openswan-xl2tpd) service on my home-server, to connect a smartphone for example. the vpn-server is 192.168.0.5 on the lan, the ppp0 device gets 192.168.0.240 and the connecting device gets 192.168.0.241. the problem is, that the connecting device only reaches 192.168.0.5 once connected to the server. any suggestions what _could_ be the failure?
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> tonika, There a number of display setting apps was it ccsm
[19:23] <tonika> default all settings, displays
[19:23] <cakeboss> Hey all. I am trying to install Beautiful Soup. Does anyone know how I can do this? I suspect that I can just use, 'apt-get' but I don't know all of what I need to type
[19:24] <Pici> cakeboss: iirc: sudo apt-get install python-beautifulsoup
[19:24] <Boreeas> For some reason, my IRC client catches all mouse input, no matter what window is in front. Any idea why?
[19:24] <cakeboss> Pici: Thanks
[19:25] <tonika> it came up with error "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[19:26] <firc> hey folks
[19:26] <firc> Need some help. I tried installed ubuntu 12.04 ( desktop ) on a server machine, and it doesnt detect my hard disk
[19:26] <tgm4883> Can anyone think of a reason you would want to mount the same drive at the same location twice (eg. I have /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd1 which are both physically the same iscsi mount, both mounting at /srv/mirror at the same time)
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> tonika, Ah actual resolution I missed the dual screen, not sure.
[19:27] <Boreeas> For some reason, my IRC client catches all mouse input, no matter what window is in front. Any idea why?
[19:28] <brontosaurusrexw> i have an app running on another instance of gnome (using nx), how to kill it?
[19:28] <dr_willis> Boreeas: using unity? and compiz? and what client?
[19:28] <Boreeas> gnome3 and gnome-shell
[19:28] <Boreeas> Keyboard input still works
[19:29] <dury> see you.... have to go
[19:29] <bulletrulz> hey guys
[19:30] <tonika> its two screens however one is a tv (constant problems) 1080i and monitor 1920*1080. After unticking the mirror check box it came up with that error then decided to reboot and the launcher has just gone. I'm thinking of doing another fresh install but thought it was worth asking before i do
[19:30] <bulletrulz> im trying to install star wars jedi knight1 through wine
[19:31] <bulletrulz> and when trying i start get to create a cheracter then press start and it says disk one is not inserted though i  have mounted it
[19:31] <IdleOne> bulletrulz: #winehq will be a better place to ask
[19:31] <dr_willis> tonika: some driver/card setups have limits on how big a virt. desktop then can handle
[19:32] <snwh> can some tell me if it is beneficial to stick with 64-bit ubuntu?
[19:32] <Evildoer> c.blessed.net
[19:32] <dr_willis> snwh: i always use 64bit when the hardware supports it.
[19:33] <dr_willis> rarely have issues with 64bit.
[19:33] <guntbert> tgm4883: no, why do you ask?
[19:33] <snwh> dr_willis my biggest greivance is that some 3rd party apps don't run on 64-bit
[19:33] <tonika> i have tried installing fglrx with the additional drivers option. It will install the main driver but not the update. however after the installing the main driver still no launcher
[19:33] <Boreeas> dr_willis: Any idea how to fix it?
[19:33] <tgm4883> guntbert, trying to work out if this is a bug or not, since that is exactly what I am seeing
[19:33] <Jordan_U> snwh: Like what? I can't think of any.
[19:34] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I just asked about installing BeautifulSoup...when I try and import it in my python script python tells me that the modules don't exist...I checked to make sure that they were installed and indeed they are there...
[19:34] <dr_willis> snwh: given how long 64 has been here. tats is almost inexcusable
[19:34] <guntbert> tgm4883: the second mount will hide the first mount - I guess , so it can only be an error
[19:34] <snwh> Jordan_U Guitar Pro 6
[19:34] <tgm4883> guntbert, nope, it successfully mounted both at the same place
[19:34] <snwh> dr_willis I agree
[19:35] <tgm4883> guntbert, further, I had to run umount twice as it only unmounted one each time
[19:35] <enav> ANYONE can tell me official release date for Ubuntu 12.10
[19:35] <enav> it supposed to be today
[19:35] <dr_willis> !schedule
[19:35] <Jordan_U> snwh: And you've tried installing the 32 bit package on a 64 bit system and it doesn't work?
[19:35] <guntbert> tgm4883: thats obvious - can you please !pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab ?
[19:35] <dr_willis> enav: i dont think so.
[19:36] <enav> ok thanks i got the date
[19:36] <enav> thanks for the help ppl
[19:36] <tgm4883> guntbert, fstab is mounting it based on UUID
[19:36] <snwh> Jordan_U I have. Personally I don't use it I'm trying to set it up for someone else.
[19:36] <tgm4883> guntbert, UUID=ec2c12e8-7b73-4127-ad90-39718124f649 /images ext4 defaults 0 1
[19:36] <blob4000> any downside to simply updating when 12.10 is out, or is there a noticeable benefit to wiping and installing 12.10 fresh?
[19:36] <Jordan_U> snwh: What version of Ubuntu are you using, how did you try to install it, and what went wrong? (if you want to pursue this)
[19:37] <guntbert> tgm4883: doesn't matter, I just want to have a look - the complete fstab please
[19:37] <snwh> Jordan_U switching them to 32-bit, i don;t think would bother them much
[19:37] <tonika> wilee-nilee: since this is a fresh install (less than a day) i should probably start again yeah?
[19:37] <tgm4883> guntbert, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1283734/
[19:37] <snwh> Jordan_U I'm on 12.10, the computer I'm trying to get it to work is 12.04.1
[19:38] <john_doe_jr> I have this confi file that points to teh apache rewrite_module @ /usr/lib64/apache2/mod_rewrite but nothing is @ this location…how do I enable something @ this location so I can get rewrite to work?
[19:38] <snwh> Jordan_U I think switching them to 32-bit won't be that noticeable; they're not using the machine to any extent to notice the performance change.
[19:39] <john_doe_jr> do I do a a2enmod rewrite_64 or something?
[19:39] <blob4000> is there any downside to simply updating 12.04.1 when 12.10 is out, or is there a noticeable benefit to wiping and installing 12.10 fresh?
[19:40] <dr_willis> blob4000: depends on how much cruft you got installed. ;-)
[19:40] <xangua> blob4000 it's mostly off to you, for 12.10 please use #ubuntu+1
[19:40] <blob4000> thanks
[19:40] <guntbert> tgm4883: I see only one line there, how did the second mount happen then?
[19:41] <tgm4883> guntbert, both /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd1 were the same UUID
[19:41] <guntbert> *one line for that mount
[19:41] <tgm4883> guntbert, it's possible that we ran 'sudo mount -a' after it booted, but still that shouldn't repeat the mount
[19:41] <tgm4883> guntbert, which is why I think it's due to them having the same UUID
[19:41] <Jordan_U> snwh: I'm still curious how trying to install the package failed.
[19:42] <dr_willis> so change the uuid!
[19:42] <guntbert> tgm4883: true, but in my opinion uuid should be just that: unique, how did they get the same one?
[19:42] <tgm4883> dr_willis, that isn't the issue
[19:42] <snwh> Jordan_U Sorry, I can't recall at the moment. It require gksu:i386 and some QT library was missing
[19:43] <guntbert> tgm4883: it *is* the issue ( in my opinion )
[19:43] <Boreeas> For some reason, my IRC client catches all mouse input, no matter what window is in front. Any idea why? I tried replacing gnome-shell, but that didn't fix it.
[19:43] <tgm4883> guntbert, I have a nexenta server sharing iscsi mounts and it's (incorrectly IMO) serving the same iscsi share twice
[19:43] <Boreeas> Keyboard input still works, though, and I can switch between windows with alt-tab
[19:43] <dr_willis> if the fstab is using the uuid i would think its an issue.
[19:44] <guntbert> tgm4883: that should be the bug then - as I said uuids are supposed to be unique
[19:45] <tgm4883> dr_willis, guntbert, yes, while I agree that the nexenta system should only serve the shares once, it's the mount issue I'm discussing now as a possible bug
[19:45] <dr_willis> Boreeas: tried a different window manager? test it with a new test user? could be some weird wm settings
[19:46] <guntbert> tgm4883: you want mount to check the uuids for uniqueness? Not feasibel in my opinion
[19:46] <dr_willis> m
[19:46] <tgm4883> guntbert, no, I'd rather throw an error if it tries to mount something at the same mountpoint twice
[19:47] <tgm4883> guntbert, further, when you run 'mount' is doesn't list it mounted as the UUID, it does it by /dev/sd*
[19:47] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Can you not fix the nexenta system?
[19:48] <zezikaro> Hi, could anyone help me out please? I've got to run ubuntu through a proxy and i'm havign a lot of problems
[19:48] <guntbert> tgm4883: not feasible either, the user/admin on a linux system is supposed to know what she is doing
[19:48] <tgm4883> Jordan_U, working on that
[19:48] <llutz> tgm4883: "mount" always shows device-names, not uuids
[19:48] <zezikaro> is there an easy way to set global proxy settings? a lot of programs see mto ignore the HTTP_PROXY export :/
[19:48] <tgm4883> guntbert, is that why we don't allow 'rm -rf /'
[19:48] <guntbert> !danger
[19:48] <jabba_> anyone there with ipsec/l2tp-knowledge?
[19:48] <tgm4883> guntbert, because admins just know what they are doing (except we do block that with warnings)
[19:49] <snwh> Jordan_U I might just chroot it
[19:49] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: That's because mount follows the symlink and displays the device name, if you "cat /proc/mounts" (which comes from the kernel) you will probably see that /dev/disk/by-uuid/foo is what was mounted.
[19:49] <guntbert> tgm4883: that is a relly dangerous command (when executed ..), the mount command is not
[19:51] <llutz> Jordan_U: also /proc/mounts shows device-names, not uuids however you mounted it (uuid,label, device)
[19:51] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: The /dev/disk/by-uuid/ namespace by its nature cannot handle one UUID symlink pointing to two different devices, and it's entirely possible for the symlink to change as devices come and go.
[19:51] <bulletrulz> !danger
[19:51] <bulletrulz> hi ubottu
[19:51] <bulletrulz> !pie
[19:51] <bazhang> bulletrulz, /msg ubottu
[19:52]  * jrib gives bulletrulz the slowest reaction time in #ubuntu award (also, please /msg ubottu directly instead of using the channel to experiment)
[19:52] <tgm4883> guntbert, Jordan_U so would you say that it is ok to mount '/dev/sdb1   /srv/mirror' and also '/dev/sdd1   /srv/mirror' at the same time?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> llutz: /dev/disk/by-uuid/de0600bd-08a0-4b40-b3aa-e8f71a08f866 is both a device name and has a UUID component :)
[19:52] <guntbert> tgm4883: no, but its a consequence of the duplicate uuids
[19:52] <llutz> Jordan_U: device-name as in "/dev/sdXY" sry
[19:54] <WeThePeople> is theie dos emulation for ubuntu
[19:54] <WeThePeople> their
[19:54] <bekks> WeThePeople: No.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> llutz: Then you're wrong, as I copied the path I just gave directly from my /proc/mounts.
[19:54] <llutz> !info dosemu | WeThePeople
[19:54] <bazhang> WeThePeople, dosbox
[19:55] <dr_willis> or vbox and freedos
[19:55] <llutz>  Jordan_U interesting.... doesn't show that here (but all debians). my bad
[19:57] <ollie_> Have I got any hope of making a Matrox G400 work with multiple monitors on ubuntu?
[19:57] <ollie_> G450*
[19:57] <KarmaKoo> OMG
[19:57] <KarmaKoo> ^^
[19:57] <KarmaKoo> qualche italiano qui dentro?
[19:57] <genii-around> !it
[19:58] <KarmaKoo> thank you so very mach ubottu
[20:03] <grandal_prime> where might i find info about building a port mirror with ubuntu
[20:04] <grandal_prime> has anyone here had any success with that?
[20:06] <guntbert> grandal_prime: what is a "port mirror"?
[20:06] <grogoreo> hi
[20:07] <grandal_prime> umm so imagine you are running ubuntu as a router.  and you recieve traffic on one interface, say eth0 and you want to see all that traffic on another port.  duplicate it.  for like monitoring or something like that.
[20:07] <tgm4883> guntbert, as a guess, it's mirroring all traffic that happens over one port to another port
[20:07] <tgm4883> yep
[20:07] <grandal_prime> so you take that data and copy it and then forward it on to where it needs to go and also a copy to another ip address.
[20:07] <grogoreo> Does anyone have it, after installing dropbox the indicator icon just keeps on saying connecting though it does work and sync?
[20:08] <WeThePeople> grogoreo, do you have a account?
[20:09] <grogoreo> WeThePeople, ye, it's all setup and I've installed both ways (through repositories and off dropbox itself)
[20:10] <MaynardWaters> hello, i attempted to follow this guide to change the boot order in grub, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order  I got some error messages and had to click through a system recovery before i finally got to boot to ubuntu
[20:11] <MaynardWaters> now my screen resolution is messed up, does anyone have any advice for reversing the effects
[20:11] <MaynardWaters> i was just going to use the back up grub.config i made and do sudo update-grub again
[20:14] <User463587> (Reading database ... 95% (Reading database ... 100% (Reading database ... 455996 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libdigidoc (from .../libdigidoc_3.6.0.707-ubuntu-12-04_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libdigidoc_3.6.0.707-ubuntu-12-04_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/etc/digidoc.conf', which is also in package libdigidoc-common 2.7.0-0ubuntu4 No apport report written b
[20:15] <bkfitz> Question: does anyone know how to add/remove something from the indicator applet (I'm trying to add indicator-weather)
[20:15] <User463587> anyone help?
[20:16] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | User463587
[20:16] <TheLordOfTime> !details | User463587
[20:16] <xangua> bkfitz: if you installed indicator-weather search it in the dash and launch it
[20:17] <bkfitz> xangua: yeah... i'm using classic :)
[20:17] <bkfitz> xangua: no likey unity
[20:18] <User463587>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdigidoc_3.6.0.707-ubuntu-12-04_i386.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdigidocpp_3.6.0.771-ubuntu-12-04_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:21] <Eagleman> I want to create or copy a file in my samba share but it says that i need permissions, but i am pretty sure i have permissions
[20:22] <bekks> Eagleman: Obviously you dont.
[20:22] <Eagleman> I have checked everything and i cant figure out why
[20:22] <gartral> how do I call the installer from a console?
[20:23] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[20:23] <guntbert> gartral: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[20:23] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/9UXFm3ha
[20:23] <gartral> guntbert: not that installer, the ubiquity one from a live-usb
[20:23] <monaDeveloper> I just did a dumb mistake I have bh-503 bluetooth headset but I set the mode to off
[20:24] <monaDeveloper> how can I set audio device mode from the terminal?
[20:24] <guntbert> gartral: I misunderstood :)
[20:25] <happy> in an open wifi is it possible to shutdown or access datas of all the connected pcs?
[20:25] <monaDeveloper> I can't find the device in the audio device list in the sound settings
[20:25] <monaDeveloper> but it's paired successfully
[20:25] <bazhang> happy, like crack their security?
[20:26] <guntbert> happy: what has that to do with ubuntu support?
[20:26] <Eagleman> So i am trying to create a file in /media/harddisks/data/users/robin  with the user robin, and it says that i dont have permissions]
[20:26] <happy> just wanna know
[20:26] <User463587>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdigidoc_3.6.0.707-ubuntu-12-04_i386.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdigidocpp_3.6.0.771-ubuntu-12-04_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:26] <happy> nothing with ubuntu
[20:26] <bazhang> happy, its not supported here
[20:26] <happy> ok
[20:26] <bazhang> happy, so dont ask
[20:26] <happy> thanks..:)
[20:26] <zykotick9> happy: you might want to read "/msg ubottu ot"
[20:26] <guntbert> User463587: please use a !pastebin to show us things
[20:27] <happy> got it thanks..:)
[20:28] <riqdiiz> what is pastebins?
[20:28] <Eagleman> WHy does it stop working suddenly....
[20:28] <happy> how can i install .tar.bz2??
[20:28] <zykotick9> riqdiiz: see "/msg ubottu paste" it's a place with a url for long posts
[20:28] <happy> i mean is there ney way to convert it to the .deb?
[20:29] <monaDeveloper> I just did a dumb mistake I have bh-503 bluetooth headset but I set the mode to off
[20:29] <Eagleman> yes extract it
[20:29] <genii-around> riqdiiz: A pastebin is a website for putting in a lot of information that cannot be posted into the channel.
[20:29] <monaDeveloper> how can I set audio device mode from the terminal?
[20:29] <riqdiiz> thanks xylophone
[20:29] <happy> after extracting
[20:29] <User463587> !pastebin
[20:29] <Eagleman> I want to create or copy a file in my samba share but it says that i need permissions, but i am pretty sure i have permissions
[20:29] <Eagleman> I have checked everything and i cant figure out why
[20:29] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/9UXFm3ha
[20:30] <happy> wanna share files using samba??
[20:30] <happy> @eagle?
[20:30] <User463587> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1283843/
[20:30] <particledust> hi
[20:33] <_XMENDES> guys help. i installing plex (media server) and it dont find my movie files. (i think its something with permissions of the group).
[20:33] <dennis_> hallo
[20:33] <Eagleman> which folder are you movie files in?
[20:34] <Eagleman> use pwd to see
[20:34] <_XMENDES> its starts looking on  / and when show my home/user , the manager dont show the files.
[20:34] <Eagleman> Dont let plex search on / ...
[20:34] <_XMENDES> movies in /home/user/Downloads
[20:34] <Eagleman> can you do ls -la /home/user/Downloads
[20:35] <_XMENDES> plex dont show the Downloads directory too
[20:35] <Eagleman> and pastebin the output
[20:35] <_XMENDES> ok.. 1 min
[20:36] <Eagleman> I want to create or copy a file in my samba share but it says that i need permissions, but i am pretty sure i have permissions
[20:36] <_XMENDES> i dont have pastebin installed yet
[20:36] <Eagleman> you dont have to
[20:36] <Eagleman> its a website where you can copy text to
[20:37] <Eagleman> !pastebin
[20:37] <_XMENDES> ok
[20:37] <Eagleman> So you wont spam the channel
[20:38] <_XMENDES> http://pastebin.com/xGQS80vM
[20:38] <_XMENDES> there is
[20:39] <Eagleman> plex cant look in the folder becuase it does not have permissions, you could try the following: useradd -G plex refeal
[20:39] <Eagleman> see if it works, if not i suggest creating a folder under / and then give plex permissions to that folder
[20:39] <uw> damn automount
[20:40] <Eagleman> What i do is create a group media, add the user plex in that group and let it look in that folder
[20:40] <_XMENDES> i did.. let me try
[20:40] <Eagleman> useradd -G refeal plex
[20:40] <Eagleman> Use the above one
[20:40] <_XMENDES> ok
[20:41] <Eagleman> Not sure if some one else except you can look in your homefolder
[20:41] <_XMENDES> its says "already exists"
[20:41] <Eagleman> Can you show me the output from:  groups
[20:41] <blob4000> maybe this isn't the right room for this, but, does anyone else find KDE to be hideous looking?
[20:42] <bazhang> !ot | blob4000
[20:42] <TheLordOfTime> blob4000, not the right place, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:42] <blob4000> lol ok thanks
[20:42] <Eagleman> Could some one help me with my samba issue?
[20:42] <ibai> hy
[20:43] <ibai> k puedo hacer para instalar el flash?
[20:43] <Eagleman> !spanish
[20:43] <Eagleman> if its even spanish xD
[20:43] <_XMENDES> dont open the folders on plex yet :/
[20:44] <Eagleman> Can you show me the output from:  groups
[20:44] <_XMENDES> how?
[20:44] <Eagleman> type: groups
[20:44] <Eagleman> and copy what it is saying
[20:44] <Eagleman> same like the previous command
[20:44] <_XMENDES> rafael adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[20:44] <Eagleman> useradd -G refeal plex
[20:44] <_XMENDES> sudo?
[20:45] <Eagleman> sudo useradd -G rafael plex
[20:45] <Eagleman> also typed ur name wrong xD
[20:45] <_XMENDES> says "user plex allready exists"
[20:45] <Eagleman> and afterwards show me the output from groups aigan
[20:45] <eamon> How would I hash each image on a webpage and block it if it matches a certain hash on ubuntu?
[20:45] <genii-around> Eagleman: don't forget to add -a or that will be the ONLY group that user will belong to
[20:45] <Eagleman> sudo useradd -G plex refeal
[20:46] <jrib> Eagleman, _XMENDES: stop
[20:46] <_XMENDES> stop plex?
[20:46] <Eagleman> Here comes the cavelry
[20:46] <jrib> Eagleman, _XMENDES: to add the user "refeal" to the group "plex", you should do: sudo adduser refeal plex
[20:47] <jrib> Eagleman: you were probably thinking of the usermod syntax but it's more trouble than it's worth :P
[20:47] <Eagleman> if you have done that can you show me: groups?
[20:47] <_XMENDES> user added
[20:47] <_XMENDES> rafael adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[20:47] <_XMENDES> groups
[20:48] <Eagleman> No samba permissions on this folder any idea why?:  http://pastebin.com/9UXFm3ha
[20:48] <Eagleman> hmm thats weird
[20:48] <_XMENDES> dont add plex
[20:48] <_XMENDES> im using sudo
[20:49] <Eagleman> jrib was wrong i guess
[20:49] <_XMENDES> need reboot?
[20:49] <Eagleman> sudo adduser plex rafael
[20:49] <Eagleman> then group and copy it
[20:49] <jrib> _XMENDES: you need to login again for it to take effect
[20:49] <guntbert> Eagleman: wrong
[20:49] <_XMENDES> ok..wait..
[20:50] <_XMENDES> ok.. 1m
[20:50] <Eagleman> i stop playing with permissions now, giving me a headache....
[20:51] <jrib> Eagleman: can you show how you try to copy a file and the output you get (in pastebin)?
[20:51] <Eagleman> the user refeal needs to be in the group plex to look inside his home folder
[20:51] <Eagleman> omg
[20:51] <Eagleman> the user plex needs to be in the group rafeal
[20:51] <Eagleman> just rm /
[20:51] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | Eagleman
[20:51] <Eagleman> !typo
[20:52] <TheLordOfTime> also, don't suggest dangerous commands btw
[20:52] <Eagleman> I want to create or copy a file in my samba share but it says that i need permissions, but i am pretty sure i have permissions: http://pastebin.com/9UXFm3ha
[20:53] <compdoc> Eagleman, who owns the shared folder
[20:53] <_XMENDES> now its there
[20:53] <_XMENDES> rafael adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare plex
[20:53] <Eagleman> can plex look in the folder?
[20:53] <_XMENDES> let me see
[20:53] <Eagleman> compdoc please look in my pastebin file
[20:54] <compdoc> Eagleman, shows root
[20:54] <Eagleman> Where?
[20:54] <Eagleman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Sep 19 11:25 robin -> /media/harddisks/data/users/robin  is only a symlink
[20:56] <compdoc> who owns the folder?
[20:56] <_XMENDES> plex dont look the folder yet :/
[20:57] <Eagleman> compdoc  drwxrwx--- 10 robin robin 4096 Oct 16 22:07 .
[20:57] <_XMENDES> plex dont have access to my user folder :(
[20:58] <Eagleman> _XMENDES i would suggest making a folder media on / and copy ur content to there and set the permissions to 770 and chown it with media:media and add the user plex to the media group
[20:59] <_XMENDES> can i .. open the permissions of my user folder to plex?
[20:59] <Eagleman> What do you mean?
[20:59] <_XMENDES> change my user folder permission
[20:59] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman, i think he means to allow 'plex' to access the user folder that is not their own
[20:59] <Eagleman> He is
[21:00] <_XMENDES> sorry my english .. im from brazil
[21:00] <Eagleman> No problem
[21:00] <_XMENDES> yes lord..
[21:00] <Eagleman> TheLordOfTime i tried getting that to work but that didnt help
[21:05] <ibere_SP> hi folks. google chrome on ubuntu 12.04.1. is there a way to change the default size of the "edit bookmarks" window? everytime i click on the star to change the bookmark folder, i feel like the "edit bookmarks" window is kind of small. tks!
[21:06] <sveinse> Does it exist a tool that can present server statistics (io-load, network, CPU load, temperature)?
[21:06] <jagginess> ibere_SP, url->  " chome-urls://bookmarks " << you can set that as a new tabpage in the settings
[21:06] <jagginess> ibere_SP, actually i think its  chrome://bookmarks
[21:07] <jagginess> ibere_SP, chrome://chrome-urls/ << i'm just showing off now :)
[21:08] <zykotick9> ibere_SP: i'm just curious, but why are you using the out-of-repo (and thus not technically supported here) google-chrome, instead of the quasi-open-source chromium (that is supported here)?
[21:08] <dalton2345> is there a way to make sure my external HD dont fall asleep?
[21:09] <ibere_SP> i'm from brazil. i followed a guide regarding what to do after installing precise at http://www.ubuntubrsc.com/que-fazer-apos-instalar-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin.html
[21:10] <zykotick9> ibere_SP: i see. well, enjoy ubuntu.
 tks!
[21:11] <dmatt> dalton2345: HD makers might have special tools where you can set timoeout for spindown  /OT here
[21:12] <dalton2345> i'm streaming movies online and it goes to sleep :(
[21:12] <dalton2345> and the stream stop
 tks... but that's kind of a workaround...
[21:12] <michealPW> Yay I finally solved my constantly-breaking KDE by replacing lightdm with kdm.
[21:12] <michealPW> Now I'm stuck with this ugly KDM though haha
[21:13] <zykotick9> dalton2345: fyi, if you are using the drive and it shuts down... that's not really "sleep", or isn't suppose to be anyways.  best of luck.
[21:13] <dijonyummy> is there an easy consistent way to install mythtv on ubuntu 12.04?  i installed it on my laptop and it works fine.  installed in on my desktop, same ubuntu version, but it just doesnt work. the log says there might be some config error.
[21:14] <dalton2345> zykotick9, it dont go offline just sleep takes like a mn to start, enough to mess up my stream
[21:14] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: i OFTEN had issues with mythtv (frontend/backend) and database user accounts.  you need more details on what is happening.  is the backend running?  does running from terminal produce more detailed errors?
[21:14] <genio_> سلام عليكم :)
[21:14] <genio_> أي بشر هنا يتكلمو عربي ؟
[21:15] <michealPW> Right-to-Left looks really neat.
[21:15] <OerHeks> !arabic
[21:17] <w00tner> genio arabe
[21:17] <w00tner> am a gennie in a bottle babyyy ooh oh oh oh
[21:18] <Jordan_U> w00tner: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[21:18] <Reflector666> hey
[21:18] <Reflector666> windows rulezz!!
[21:19] <michealPW> hehe
[21:19] <dalton2345> :o
[21:19] <michealPW> Comedy break :P
[21:19] <dmatt> dalton2345: sounds strange, where is the disk placed and how are you connected to it?
[21:19] <ish_018> hi guys, my ubuntu 12.04 lappy keeps freezing frequently any suggestion.. btw its a Lenevo G580 with intel hd 4000 graphics.
 hi guys, my ubuntu 12.04 lappy keeps freezing frequently any suggestions?.. btw its a Lenevo G580 with intel hd 4000 graphics.
[21:20] <monopole> lol Reflector666
[21:20] <dalton2345> external drive..usb...working fine it just idle after like 2-3hrs even if vlc playing a movie
[21:20] <Reflector666> hi guys..my girlfriend broke up with me..cos she says than linux is sucks...guys what should i do?
[21:20] <dalton2345> i dont understand either..it shouldn't go to idle if i'm using it...but it does
[21:21] <monopole> dalton2345: how are you waking it up?
[21:21] <brainiarc7> ish_018, compile the latest Intel driver from www.intellinuxgraphics.org
[21:21] <Guest4375> hi all
[21:21] <juniour_>  Reflector666 use linux without telling her
[21:22] <dalton2345> monopole, well by that time my stream is messed up...i just stop
, thanks, i'll try that..
[21:23] <dalton2345> i'm trying to do it 24/7 but can't cause it will idle :(
[21:23] <ealeon> hey guys. for some reason i have two ubuntu installed and when i start my computer I see the list of those two ubuntu and I want the default to be the second one
[21:23] <ealeon> how can i do that?
[21:24] <dmatt> dalton2345: make a script to write to disk every 10 minutes some small txt file :)
[21:24] <monopole> dalton2345, maybe if you setup a cron job to write something to disk every few minutes?
[21:24] <dmatt> monopole: lol
[21:24] <Jordan_U> ealeon: You don't know why you have two Ubuntu installations?
[21:25] <dalton2345> hehe good idea :)
[21:25] <chaos_> i know why
[21:25] <ealeon> Jordan_U no.. I dont know why. I installed
[21:25] <chaos_> he just loves it that much!
[21:25] <ealeon> and it shows two different ones
[21:25] <WeThePeople> is there a such thing as a hotkey for ubuntu to start a app
[21:25] <WeThePeople> ?
[21:26] <ealeon> it might be two diff ubuntu. 11 and 12.04
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ealeon: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces so that we can tell what your actual situation is.
[21:26] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ealeon
[21:26] <chaos_> shows the kernel modes when you boot up not different OS's
[21:26] <ealeon> okay let me try that real quick
[21:27] <jack_> yoooo
[21:27] <chaos_> ubuntu 12 the clock on the panel is gone i can not figure out for the life of me how to bring it back.
[21:27] <chaos_> any ideas?
[21:28] <chaos_> i tried dconf-editor
[21:28] <chaos_> any powerful users up in here?
[21:29] <Gorfo> hi
[21:29] <Gorfo> here
[21:29] <Gorfo> how r u ?
[21:29] <jack_> fine and you
[21:29] <Gorfo> quite fine
[21:29] <Gorfo> i should already be at bed, but anyway, my ubuntu is questioning me ;)
[21:30] <buc> Hello all, would like to degrade my machine from ubuntu 12.10 to 12.04 without loosing my data is it possible. Please help
[21:30] <WeThePeople> how do i assign hotkey to open dosbox?
[21:31] <zykotick9> buc: terrible idea.  see "/msg ubottu downgrade" for confirmation it's not supported.
[21:31] <xangua> buc: backup your data and install 12.04
[21:31] <jrib> buc: I'm curious why you want to do that
[21:31] <chaos_> seems like a bunch of questions and no answers omg lol im bout to blaze more weed and say fuk the time clock
[21:32] <Gorfo> my question is : is it ipossible to change the size of the elements of hte dash ? (i'm not speaking about the icons of the launcher)
[21:32] <jrib> chaos_: please stay on-topic and mind your language
[21:32] <buc> jrib, I am unable to run phpmyadmin on it but phpmyadmin works fine in ubuntu 12.04
[21:33] <jrib> buc: maybe #ubuntu+1 can help you with phpmyadmin on 12.10
[21:33] <chaos_> jrib: please be careful about confronting me as i am crazy
[21:33] <Gorfo> buc: i would say it's not possible to downgrade your os ... but wait a bit for official release of 12.10
[21:34] <Gorfo> phpmyadmin problem: isn't just a problem with the conf of your apache ?
[21:34] <zykotick9> Gorfo: fyi, apt scripts are all configured for one direction only - upgrade.  so trying to downgrade will ususally result in very broken config files/etc.
[21:34] <buc> ok, thanks all for your help
[21:34] <ealeon> Boot Problem RESULT.txt pastbin. pastebin.com/qqFBnCPC
[21:36] <Gorfo> zykotick9: thx for the info ... i had few doubt about that anyway... Could be an idea (not easy to implement i can understand) to enable the contrary ...
[21:36] <Gorfo> imagine, you install something that upgrade some dep
[21:36] <Gorfo> and finally you do not want it anymore
[21:36] <TheBeast> can ubuntu isos be dd-ed to usb sticks?
[21:36] <Gorfo> hop something like apt-unget and back to the future
[21:37] <zykotick9> TheBeast: they're hybrid iso/usb yes.  fyi, technically cat is suggested by the developers...
[21:37] <TheBeast> ok so they're hybrid. makes sense. thanks.
[21:38] <BlouBlou> So ubuntu 12.10 will be released in 2 days, right?
[21:38] <L3top> When does Lucid drop support
[21:38] <zykotick9> BlouBlou: see "/msg ubottu schedule"
[21:38] <jrib> !lucid | L3top
[21:39] <miguel_> my virtualbox doesnt see my usb devices :( i added my user to the vboxusers rebooted few times and nothing
[21:39] <chaos_> did you install the extensions pack?
[21:40] <ealeon> Boot Problem RESULT.txt pastbin. pastebin.com/qqFBnCPC Could anyone look at this. I want to get rid of the 106 one
[21:40] <ealeon> and i just want the second one
[21:40] <L3top> ty jrib
[21:42] <chaos_> ealon: your install looks fine. you just made certain choices when you installed the software
[21:43] <vivid> anyone have an idea when we can expect nvidia 310 to hit the precise repositories?
[21:43] <zykotick9> miguel_: you might want to ask in #vbox.  but, i "believe" you need to install something "extra" to get usb support.  best of luck.
[21:44] <chaos_> LVM is whats throwing you i bet
[21:44] <ealeon> chaos_, how do i remove the one of them
[21:44] <dandkburt> if its on a computer you can do it
[21:44] <chaos_> miguel: you need the extensions pack for sure and the right one at that
[21:44] <ealeon> so instead of having tow, i just have one
[21:44] <ealeon> two*
[21:45] <zykotick9> ealeon: does the 2nd install still exist?  if so, are you sure you want to remove it?
[21:45] <chaos_> you can not just remove it. there is nothing wrong with it, it just no knowing whats going on thats proably confusing you
[21:45] <chaos_> you coul reinstall and not use LVM's
[21:45] <ealeon> zykotick9, yes 2nd exists. i want to get rid of the first one and have the 2nd one as default
[21:45] <zykotick9> ealeon: see /etc/default/grub and the GRUB_DEFAULT= line to choose which one is default.
[21:46] <chaos_> in grub you can remove the extras so you dont see them when they boot.
[21:46] <chaos_> ya
[21:46] <zykotick9> ealeon: 0 = first option, 1 = 2nd option, etc
[21:46] <chaos_> go get a ubuntu book dude. they help alot too
[21:46] <ealeon> zykotick9, where do i bring up grub terminal thingy?
[21:46] <zykotick9> ealeon: ;) and don't forget to run "sudo update-grub" after making any changes ;)
[21:47] <ealeon> okay let me try that
[21:47] <zykotick9> ealeon: hold shift after bios.  BUT that's only a 1 time change!  you need to edit the configs to make it permanent.
[21:47] <chaos_> ya be careful modifying grub. if you mess up you might boot to a ugly grub terminal instead your desktop
[21:47] <ealeon> update-grub command not found
[21:47] <chaos_> omg be careful ealon
[21:48] <chaos_> i wouldnt worry about it much if i was you but you wont learn if you dont try
[21:48] <chaos_> catch 420
[21:48] <zykotick9> ealeon: what ubuntu version are you using ("lsb_release -sc" from terminal if unsure)?  could you still be using grub1 (aka grub-legacy)?
[21:48] <ealeon> okay ill try that
[21:49] <ealeon> so im at grub right now
[21:49] <ealeon> type SET DEFAULT =1
[21:50] <zykotick9> ealeon: are you rebooted to a grub prompt?
[21:50] <ealeon> unrecognized command
[21:50] <ealeon> yes im at a grub prmpt
[21:50] <ealeon> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[21:50] <zykotick9> ealeon: i can't help you from grub> (perhaps someone else want to, but i sure don't)  booting from grub> is non-trivial, best of luck.
[21:54] <rsser> what do you do when you have to installed everything you need on ubuntu?
[21:54] <rsser> s/ to
[21:54] <rsser> oops... it is w/
[21:55] <zykotick9> rsser: right an install script ;) "sudo apt-get install foo1 foo2 etc" is how i deal with that...
[21:55] <chaos_> i do it manually
[21:56] <UbuntuRookie> O:-)
[21:57] <miguel_> my virtualbox doesnt see my usb devices :( i added my user to the vboxusers rebooted few times and nothing, i also instaled guest additions and no go.. My vm is a windows xp machine... And the dice is a flash drive which is detected by my host (ubuntu 12.04)
[21:58] <bekks> miguel_: Did you install the extension pack on the host?
[21:58] <rsser> zykotick9: what does foo mean?
[21:58] <rsser> foo script
[21:59] <zykotick9> rsser: "foo" is a variable, insert what you really need in place ;)  it's a unix thing.
[21:59] <miguel_> bekks, i did
[22:00] <rsser> I tried to install the package foo, the system says: impossible to find this package
[22:00] <zykotick9> rsser: sorry, lol.  there is no foo package ;)
[22:00] <user> hello
[22:00] <rsser> :(
[22:01] <rsser> why are you  mocking me?
[22:01] <zykotick9> rsser: i didn't mean too!  sorry.
[22:01] <rsser> :(
[22:01] <zykotick9> rsser: could you possible ask your question again - all on one line, so the entire channel can see it, thanks.
[22:02] <rsser> so
[22:03] <rsser> I asked something like that: "What does it come next after you've installed everything on your ubuntu?
[22:03] <dalton2345> what you mean rsser
[22:03] <zykotick9> rsser: i still find that a bit unclear.  i guess i misunterpreted what you wanted the first time ;)  best of luck.
[22:04] <chaos_> we all did
[22:04] <dalton2345> after you installed it..you add whatever you wish
[22:05] <rsser> what I meant: I'd like to know  what comes next... I've installed ubuntu with all software that I need.
[22:05] <josy1982_> my boyfreind beats me help
[22:05] <chaos_> i usually destroy it and do it all again
[22:05] <rsser> what have I learn?
[22:05] <chaos_> nothing
[22:05] <k1l> josy1982_: schlechter scherz, geh woanders trollen
[22:05] <chaos_> you learn point and click.. oh so fun
[22:05] <rsser> I'm not satisfied
[22:05] <genii-around> josy1982_: That's not a tech support issue. Get off the computer and call the cops about it.
[22:06] <aguadito> josy1982_,  does your boyfriend run ubuntu?
[22:06] <josy1982_> achja irgendwas muss ich ja machen lol
[22:06] <zykotick9> rsser: do you have a technical issue right now?  if not, it's OT (see "/msg ubottu ot" for details)?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> rsser  'foo' means 'blah blah', like saying 'something'
[22:06] <chaos_> josy 1982: hey
[22:06] <chaos_> why you tell us that
[22:06] <WeThePeople> where is the /opt dir?
[22:07] <k1l> chaos_: dont mind him, he is trolling
[22:07] <bekks> WeThePeople: As the "/opt" suggests, in your / directory.
[22:07] <chaos_> ****
[22:07] <rsser> chaos, because you can help me, to give a direction about what I should learn
[22:07] <WeThePeople> bekks, its not there
[22:08] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: What is the output of "ls -ld /opt/"?
[22:08] <WeThePeople> bekks, if its suppose to show up in root fs it doesnt
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> rsser  pick something here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise
[22:08] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: /opt/its_unsupported ;)
[22:09] <chaos_> rsser: you are not being clear == newb...  start with a book kid
[22:09] <WeThePeople> jordan_u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284017/
[22:09] <rsser> hummm.. wow,  I remembered => there is a problem I can't solved yet. I can't run the compiz on VM
[22:09] <chaos_> any power user has many books. all you newbs start there for sure and here of course but start there first
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> rsser  first learn the basics, don't start with compiz in virtual machines
[22:10] <chaos_> rsser: you are crying about compiz in a VM? that is not important
[22:11] <chaos_> rsser: try this command to fix that....    'compiz; rm-rf /' usually fixes for me
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> chaos_  don't say that
[22:12] <bekks> !danger
[22:12] <iceroot> !ops | chaos_
[22:12] <decbot> rsser: here's what I did, try to run linux as your sole operating system. Email, web, games, etc... you'll figure out what you don't know and what doesn't work and you start from there.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> chaos_  btw, I tried it in a VM, it does nothing
[22:12] <rsser> chaos, stop to be jerk. If you don't want help me,  everything is fine
[22:12] <iceroot> chaos_: with something like that you are not welcome here, stop that
[22:13] <Myrtti> chaos_: when helping, be helpful. If you don't have something productive to say, then stay quiet.
[22:13] <chaos_> oops
[22:13] <bkerensa> What Myrtti said
[22:13] <rsser> decbot:  I need to test first of serveral ways
[22:13] <chaos_> wow i didnt even know all you was sandbagging on the conversation. you can at least help and not just watch what we say
[22:14] <iceroot> chaos_: the same for you, you can start help others and stop being a troll
[22:14] <Myrtti> now that we've establish it wasn't ok to suggest rm'ing your system, can we move on?
[22:14] <chaos_> if you cry about what to do with ubuntu and then ask about compiz in a VM then of course you get some smart a$$ remark
[22:15] <chaos_> sorry though i know it was mean and could been devastating
[22:15] <decbot> so what do we move on do? dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda
[22:15] <gardllok> NEED HELP! I broke my apt :( or perhaps the kernel itself? I cannot apt-get install/remove anything without getting an error that leads to this log file: http://pastebin.com/vB9i6i2U , This has occured since a failed attempt to install virtual box almost a week ago. Google not helping :(
[22:15] <iceroot> !danger
[22:15] <iceroot> decbot: the same for you
[22:16] <actionParsnip> decbot: no, don't run that
[22:16] <rsser> chaos, on ubuntu don' t I have the power to make anything what I want? Why don't I have to install compiz on VM?
[22:16] <decbot> yeah, don't run what I posted, it's another bad command
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> rsser  I repeat: first learn the basics, don't start with compiz in virtual machines
[22:16] <chaos_> you can you just need hardware to support it.
[22:16] <rsser> I can't install video drives on VM
[22:16] <AMDAthlon> how do i defrag ext4?
[22:16] <rsser> chaos, I have the hardware
[22:16] <chaos_> pump up your vm settings and see if you can get it to work
[22:17] <chaos_> ya but its being used in an abstract way
[22:17] <actionParsnip> AMDAthlon: there is a tool, but its largely not needed in any way
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> !defrag > AMDAthlon
[22:17] <iceroot> gardllok: what is the output of "uname -r" and "cat /etc/issue"?
[22:17] <rsser> but this vm looks like own video drive. It's not allow to install another video drive here
[22:17] <chaos_> notice how you can control the memory cpu and all that
[22:17] <AMDAthlon> MonkeyDust:  thanks ^_^
[22:17] <actionParsnip> !info e4defrag
[22:17] <rsser> chaos, I've tried
[22:17] <actionParsnip> AMDAthlon: http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ext4-defragmentation-with-e4defrag/
[22:17] <rsser> and it wasn't worked
[22:18] <chaos_> does your vm video card support openGL? thats gonna be key i bet
[22:18] <rsser> My system: Linux xxxx-vbox 3.6.1-030601-generic #201210071322 SMP Sun Oct 7 17:30:30 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[22:18] <iceroot> gardllok: strange is that you are running 3.2 and make is using the 3.0 headers
[22:18] <rsser> yes, chaos
[22:18] <k1l> AMDAthlon: there is no need for the windows-manner to defrag the partitions yourself
[22:18] <rsser> it's nvidia GT220
[22:19] <moogly> hi
[22:19] <gardllok> iceroot: ubuntu 10.10 \n \l with 3.0.1-030001-generic.....its a blackbuntu i modded for 3.0.1-030001-generic
[22:19] <iceroot> rsser: and that is ubuntu? because ubuntu is not usinf 3.6
[22:19] <moogly> i just downloaded this, how do i change it to look black like in the software center?
[22:19] <iceroot> gardllok: not supported here
[22:19] <gardllok> iceroot: only way i could get my wireless drivers to work was go 3.0.1-030001-generic
[22:19] <iceroot> gardllok: and 10.10 is eol and we dont support ubuntu forks here
[22:19] <bkerensa> gardllok: We do not support blackbuntu here.
[22:19] <bluefox83> well...for whatever reason my college seems to be blocking regular irc connections (outgoing) it's rather annoying...
[22:19] <gardllok> kk ty
[22:19] <gardllok> ty anyway :)
[22:19] <Jordan_U> AMDAthlon: You do not need to do 90% of the things listed in http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/ext4-defragmentation-with-e4defrag/ . You can use the e4defrag utility out of the box with Ubuntu 12.04 (though you'll probably find that you don't have much fragmentation to begin with.
[22:19] <moogly> someone haing trouble with wireless drivers?
[22:19] <chaos_> i dont know. sorry i cant help bro
[22:19] <uw> ugh so aparently ctrl-alt-d doesn't show the desktop anymore?
[22:19] <uw> why are these changes being made
[22:19] <uw> seriously
[22:20] <bkerensa> !offtopic > bluefox83
[22:20] <actionParsnip> !find e4defrag
[22:20] <rsser> okay, chaos
[22:20] <rsser> thank you anyway
[22:20] <k1l> uw: ctrl+super+d perhaps?
[22:20] <xtingray> hi, I want to include my project as part of the official repository of Ubuntu... someone can help me?
[22:20] <bkerensa> !justask | uw
[22:20] <k1l> uw: hold super down for the shortcut table
[22:21] <uw> wow thanks k1l didnt know that
[22:21] <rsser> iceroot: I'm running ubuntu 12.04 with kernel version 3.6.1
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> xtingray  make a ppa, hope someone picks it up and if it's good enough, it may in time be incuded in the official repos
[22:21] <uw> wonder why they changed it
[22:21] <iceroot> rsser: ok
[22:21] <uw> to piss users like me off?
[22:21] <rsser> people told me my system would instable
[22:21] <uw> mission accomplished!
[22:21] <rsser> but it is working fine
[22:21] <k1l> uw: alt is needed for the HUD
[22:21] <ItsAllGoneWierd> hi how r u?
[22:22] <xtingray> MonkeyDust, got it... I already made the ppa, so I'll wait for "someone"... thanks
[22:22] <uw> btw holding super down is supposed to make a menu appear?
[22:22] <actionParsnip> rsser: we can't support 3rd party kernels here, its probably the source of your issue
[22:22] <bekks> uw: No.
[22:22] <uw> doesnt look like anything is comming up
[22:22] <the_dudez0r> ROFL @ PPA'S
[22:22] <k1l> uw: no, tippping super is suposed to open the dash
[22:22] <rsser> actionParsnip: ?
[22:22] <rsser> I didn't get it
[22:22] <actionParsnip> rsser: the3.6 kernel is not from the Ubuntu repos
[22:22] <rsser> okay
[22:23] <rsser> yes, actionParsnip, I got it
[22:23] <shadedpixel> actionParsnip: was about to say that
[22:23] <rsser> thank you
[22:23] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Why am I warned every time i want to install something from the software center? Not authorized packages.. how can I get rid of the warnings, both in SC and in terminal
[22:24] <shadedpixel> If im up-to-date the latest kernel version in the repos is 3.2.0
[22:24] <Jordan_U> ItsAllGoneWierd: "sudo apt-get update" usually fixes that.
[22:24] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Jordan_U, thx, will do that
[22:24] <rsser> shadedpixel: you're right
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> xtingray  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tip/
[22:24] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update     Thanks
[22:24] <xtingray> MonkeyDust, thanks
[22:25] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, ok
[22:25] <Jordan_U> ItsAllGoneWierd: You're welcome.
[22:25] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: use http://pastie.org or similar. Thanks
[22:27] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1284041/
[22:27] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, Hent = Get and Funnet = Found :)
[22:28] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[22:29] <WeThePeople> does anybody know autokey program very well?
[22:29] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, Alright, but I dont understand what this is.. why is this nessasary?
[22:31] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: its the key to authenticate the packages with, you added a source but not the key
[22:31] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: is; sudo apt-get update    now smooth? no key error?
[22:31] <ItsAllGoneWierd> lets see
[22:32] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: then run:  wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[22:32] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: thats if its still giving the key error
[22:33] <ItsAllGoneWierd> This thing was not valid :BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[22:34] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, sorry forget to adress you.. :)
[22:35] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: no worries, try the command I gave, its a script running the synaptic package fix list of commands
[22:35] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, doing it now
[22:35] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: hopefully removing al knowledge of packages online then redownloading them will square things off
[22:36] <n0sq> can ubuntu be put on a tablet pc?
[22:37] <Dext> it could
[22:37] <Dext> if it had android on it
[22:37] <Dext> I have for example ubuntu on my Samsung S3
[22:37] <n0sq> i'd rather have a laptop
[22:37] <OptikKore> hey i know this is completely ot but i just got an inspirion mini 9 for free and it has a 3gb ssd, whats the best distro to use for such small space?
[22:37] <Dext> witch is not a tablet but a phone
[22:37] <Dext> use ubuntu
[22:37] <actionParsnip> OptikKore: puppy, tinycore
[22:37] <Dext> or xubuntu
[22:37] <genii-around> OptikKore: Probably lubuntu
[22:38] <vivid> OptikKore, a friend of mine really likes crunchbang
[22:38] <actionParsnip> xubuntu requirements
[22:38] <OptikKore> lubuntu doesnt fit
[22:38] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, is this a common problem?
[22:38] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: its not really a problem, just a nice to have or the package system moans
[22:38] <dr_willis_> OptikKore: id say tinycore ;-)
[22:38] <OptikKore> thank you
[22:39] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, there, no errors :)
[22:39] <actionParsnip> Dext: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Lightweight_GUI_alternative_.28Xubuntu_and_Lubuntu.29   xubuntu needs 5Gb minimal
[22:39] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: great :D
[22:39] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, Hang on, Ill try to install something from SC.
[22:39] <vivid> thats because lightweight gui != lightweight system
[22:40] <actionParsnip> vivid: it can contribute to it though
[22:40] <stefano> BUONASERA!
[22:42] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, It seems to work fine! Thanks alot, youre awesome!
[22:42] <blob4000> hey all. i noticed that my Ubuntu 12.04.1 login screen still shows 12.04 at the bottom, did something go wrong during the upgrade?
[22:42] <vivid> blob4000, no
[22:42] <actionParsnip> blob4000: not sure the login page shows the dot releases
[22:42] <vivid> blob4000, if you enter a tty it should show 12.04.1, the login page does not
[22:43] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: if you copy the file to /usr/bin   you can run it when you need it
[22:43] <PRabyte> hey gotta a quick question: how do i remove a program i installed with tar -xzvf whatever.tar. i know i can remove this dir. however, it created dirs all over the place. is there a way i can remove quickly and simply ./configure --prefix=/etc/whatever this time?
[22:43] <vivid> blob4000, you can edit that 12.04 image though, adding the .1 :p its open source
[22:43] <genii-around> PRabyte: It *may* have an uninstall option for "make"
[22:43] <zykotick9> PRabyte: installing from source on ubuntu isn't a great idea IMO.  but look for a make uninstall option
[22:44] <PRabyte> genii-around: ill check, what am i looking for...
[22:44] <blob4000> thanks for the responses. i guess my question has more to do with keeping my unbutu always up to date, and if things like the login screen version number don't change, i wonder what else didn't update
[22:44] <PRabyte> ok. brb
[22:44] <actionParsnip> PRabyte: you may need the source then run the same configure command, then run:   sudo make clean
[22:44] <gordonjcp> blob4000: stuff like that won't update for something like a point release
[22:44] <genii-around> PRabyte: eg: make uninstall                   if it exists, if not then make clean or make dist-clean
[22:44] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, ok, thx! done :)
[22:44] <vivid> blob4000, nothing didnt update.  that image has never changed in any release to date
[22:45] <blob4000> gordonjcp: oh ok, but it will update if i go to 12.10?
[22:45] <blob4000> and beyond
[22:45] <PRabyte> genii-around: will i need to specify the --with statements as well?
[22:45] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: I have a few cheeky scripts like that, dead handy
[22:45] <vivid> blob4000, yes, but not likely to show the point release nu bers
[22:45] <gordonjcp> blob4000: yes
[22:45] <actionParsnip> blob4000: the login screen has 12.10 here
[22:46] <blob4000> thanks! another side question. if i do a distro upgrade from 12.04.1, does it get 12.10? or is that only this Thursday?
[22:46] <blob4000> after* this Thurs
[22:46] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, one day I will learn that myself, i hope
[22:46] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade  | blob4000
[22:46] <vivid> blob4000, you could dist-upgrade any time you like, but its best to wait for the official release
[22:46] <actionParsnip> blob4000: you can uprade to the beta 2 pre-release now if you want
[22:46] <ItsAllGoneWierd> actionParsnip, i will see you again, tnx :)
[22:46] <blob4000> thanks for the answers!
[22:46] <genii-around> PRabyte: If they pointed to system locations to put the binaries it made, yes
[22:46] <actionParsnip> ItsAllGoneWierd: you will, with time :)
[22:47]  * zykotick9 thinks dist-upgrade MUST be one of the most misunderstood commands
[22:47] <PRabyte> there is no uninstall with make, sighs...
[22:47] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: not so much misunderstood as badly named
[22:47] <vivid> zykotick9, not really, it used to serve that purpose with debian, ubuntu has changed its method
[22:47] <blob4000> gordonjcp: yeah the name really throws people off, understandable
[22:48] <hikmet> hi
[22:48] <hikmet> ı am using voyager 12.4 xfce my bluetooth doesnt work can you help me
[22:49] <zykotick9> actionParsnip: 12.04 -> 12.10, is LTS -> non-LTS.... in some ways, a downgrade of sorts ;)  </OT>
[22:49] <actionParsnip> hikmet: how do you mean 'voyager'?
[22:49] <actionParsnip> zykotick9: depends if you want bleeding edge ;)
[22:49] <blob4000> zykotick9: are you sticking with 12.04?
[22:49] <hikmet> voyager xfce
[22:49] <zykotick9> blob4000: i don't use ubuntu, so no ;)
[22:50] <blob4000> oh, what do you use?
[22:50] <zykotick9> blob4000: doesn't matter.
[22:50] <genii-around> hikmet: Voyager is not a supported derivative
[22:50] <zykotick9> blob4000: OT
[22:50] <actionParsnip> hikmet: is it this: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=voyager
[22:51] <vivid> wtb nvidia-experimental-310
[22:51] <hikmet> yes
[22:52] <hikmet> actionParsnip yes
[22:52] <actionParsnip> hikmet: then it's nt Ubuntu, so not supported here
[22:52] <actionParsnip> *not
[22:52] <hikmet> it is xubuntu based
[22:52] <vivid> hikmet, doesnt change his comment, look for a channel for your distribution
[22:52] <actionParsnip> hikmet: yes, based. Ubuntu is based on debian, but if you ask for Ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[22:53] <actionParsnip> hikmet: this channel only supports canonical releases, not the spinoffs which people make
[22:53] <zykotick9> hikmet: see "/msg ubottu derivatives" for details
[22:53] <hikmet> ok
[22:55] <juniour_> hi guys can i send message from one pc to anothe via terminal as they are connected in lan
[22:55] <WeThePeople> is their a way to dbug all of Lucid ?
[22:56] <actionParsnip> juniour_: you could SSH and run: export DISPLAY=0.0; notify-send 'Message' 'Hello this is a test'
[22:56] <OerHeks> juniour_, bsd-write could do that > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/bsd-write.1.html
[22:56] <chuck_tes> Hello. I have a question. Does Ubuntu Server come with Apache 2 Web Server and ProFTP Server?
[22:57] <actionParsnip> chuck_tes: not default but they can be installed
[22:58] <Dragonster82> Hello everybody!
[22:58] <chuck_tes> okay i will try and isntall them using the synaptics package manager. one more question...is Ubuntu Web Server like a terminal command line OS or does it have a GUI?
[22:58] <zykotick9> chuck_tes: fyi, ftp must die.  BUT proftpd was my fav when i used to run ftp servers.
[22:58] <actionParsnip> chuck_tes: the server OS has no GUI and is all CLI, if you need a desktop, I suggest you install the desktop OS
[22:59] <zykotick9> actionParsnip: +1
[22:59] <chuck_tes> ack. ok im going to ge the desktop. thank you. zykotic: why must ftp die? i thought ftp is quite useful for transferring files?
[23:00] <iceroot> chuck_tes: ftp is unsecure and should not be used anymore
[23:00] <Dragonster82> @chuck_tes did FTP die?
[23:00] <actionParsnip> chuck_tes: it's inefficient and unsecure. I'd suggest SFTP which you will get when you install openssh-server
[23:00] <zykotick9> chuck_tes: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie  fyi you might want to see "/msg ubottu tab"
[23:00] <dencoltd> HELLO
[23:01] <chuck_tes> 0oo i see whats your saying. k.
[23:01] <Dragonster82> Hey, anyone here codes in C++ or C#?
[23:02] <Radikal08> Hi there, i hope someone can help me. I have installed ubuntu 12.04.01 that i am using now.. when i boot up, i have the option to start ubuntu 9.04 if i want, i tried that and it asked for the username and password which i entered.. I entered the same as for 12.04.01, but it tells me its wrong. Is this a common problem or is it something that im missing?
[23:02] <actionParsnip> Dragonster82: try in #c++
[23:02] <uw> i read that as c#++ at first
[23:02] <Dragonster82> actionParsnip: What do you mean?
[23:02] <uw> i was like, whoa there
[23:03] <actionParsnip> Dragonster82: its a C++ channel
[23:03] <zykotick9> Dragonster82: "/join #c++" in your irc client
[23:03] <stefano_> ciao
[23:03] <judahlion> Radikal08:you have to use the pass that you configured for 9.04..
[23:03] <michealPW> Konversation turns those channels into clickable links.
[23:04] <michealPW> That's slick :|
[23:04] <Radikal08> Judahlion: but i never configurated any pass for it, do i do that on ubuntu 12.04.01?
[23:04] <Dragonster82> Cya guys, I've got to go to school.
[23:05] <judahlion> Radikal: you have to chose a pass when you install it, no?
[23:05] <Radikal08> Judahlion: but I never installed ubuntu 9.04... thats strange
[23:05] <michealPW> Yea, pretty sure every Ubuntu install asks for a username and password :\
[23:06] <Radikal08> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 the day it actually came out.. but after that, this harddrive has been formated many times.. so its not supposed to be able to find ubuntu 9.04.. and its definately not supposed to be able to actually start it and start up the login screen, because i dont have it
[23:06] <judahlion> Radikal08: do this command:
[23:06] <Radikal08> so i thought it was an option that came with ubuntu 12.04.01 to
[23:06] <Radikal08> oh
[23:06] <schultza> i wish that rsync had a % copied showing
[23:06] <judahlion> sudo update-grub
[23:07] <Radikal08> whjat the
[23:07] <judahlion> Radikal:no that's not an option for sure!
[23:08] <Radikal08> "found ubuntu 9.04 on /dev/sda3
[23:08] <Radikal08> i never installed it
[23:08] <Radikal08> how can i find that sda3?
[23:08] <monopole> Radikal08: thats a partition on your sda hard disk
[23:08] <schultza> sudo fdisk -l
[23:08] <judahlion> Radikal: use gparted or something to format that again
[23:09] <wyvern> #4chan @ Rizon
[23:10] <Radikal08> I will try and do that, thank you
[23:13] <judahlion> Radikal08: and don't forgete to do this afterwards: sudo update-grub
[23:15] <checkingoutirc> testing
[23:15] <michealPW> It's a "ghost in the computer", like Johny Mnuemonic!
[23:15] <michealPW> hehe
[23:15] <zykotick9> checkingoutirc: fail ;)
[23:15] <checkingoutirc> cool there is life out there
[23:15] <michealPW> Nice name ^
[23:15] <bluelion> depends on your definition of life
[23:15] <checkingoutirc> ive never been on irc
[23:15] <checkingoutirc> first time
[23:16] <bluelion> welcome
[23:16] <checkingoutirc> thanks
[23:16] <zykotick9> checkingoutirc: you might want to see "/msg ubottu ask" or "/msg ubottu topic" best of luck!
[23:16] <michealPW> irc is nice. Lots of power-trippin' ops though :P
[23:16] <michealPW> So you have to be on your best behavior (rofl)
[23:16] <checkingoutirc> thanks for the tips
[23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi i cant get input to work on ubuntu
[23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> i can hear the feedback of my mic thru my headphones
[23:16] <judahlion> and irssi is the best! :)
[23:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i cant get it to work on actual apps
[23:16] <michealPW> No way, XChat is the best!
[23:17] <kristopher> first time here. is this a ubuntu help chat?
[23:17] <michealPW> Konversation is awesome, too, though... Try them all! :)
[23:17] <zykotick9> judahlion: redundant comments are OT here ;)
[23:17] <blackshirt> kristopher,yes
[23:17] <vulcanmum> hey room
[23:17] <vulcanmum> I am new to ubuntu and brand new to xchat
[23:18] <kristopher> thank you blackshirt... do i just ask all or is there a person to speak to?
[23:18] <Guest93516> hi somebody knows about cgi programming?
[23:18] <blackshirt> !ask | kristopher
[23:19] <Rallias> is there an equivelant to screen for graphical applications?
[23:19] <zykotick9> Rallias: no that i've ever heard of.  screen ftw ;)
[23:19] <actionParsnip> Rallias: thereare 4 workspaces by default
[23:19] <vulcanmum> I was directed here from reddit, someone said this was a good room for ubuntu help
[23:19] <Rallias> actionParsnip: I want something that works with x forwarding.
[23:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anyone able to help with a sound problem? I can hear my mic through my headphones but cant get it to work with actual apps
[23:19] <actionParsnip> vulcanmum: its the official support channel for the distribution
[23:20] <Rallias> Like, I log out the machine, when I log back in, the window is just like I left it.
[23:20] <zykotick9> Rallias: vnc.  BUT that's not like screen ;)
[23:20] <vulcanmum> thanks
[23:20] <judahlion> whereismyspoon: did you checked you settings with alsamixer?
[23:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> judahlion: i havent got anything muted and have stuff turned up
[23:20] <PRabyte> tanks l8
[23:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> judahlion: have sound card selected
[23:21] <Rallias> zykotick9: yeah... I dislike vnc... otherwise I would go with that.
[23:21] <vulcanmum> I don't even know how to use xchat yet, I tried adding my server that I use for another chat room I go to but it didn't open
[23:21] <zykotick9> Rallias: i think vnc is silly...
[23:21] <Rallias> Proof in point.
[23:21] <compdoc> vnc is awesome
[23:21] <zykotick9> Rallias: use terminal apps, then screen works flawlessly ;)
[23:22] <Rallias> VNC is awesome, except for the fact that I can't overlap multiple windows running on separate machines.
[23:22] <vulcanmum> how do you address someone specifically in here, in chat, without having to type thier whole name?
[23:22] <judahlion> Whereismyspoon: so you want to hear the mic trough your speakers in place of you headphone right?
[23:22] <compdoc> overlap multiple windows?
[23:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> judahlion: i dont want to hear or not hear the mic
[23:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> judahlion: i want the mic to be detected by apps so it will work in them
[23:22] <Rallias> vulcanmum: type part their name, hit tab
[23:22] <actionParsnip> vnc is horrible
[23:22] <compdoc> I can open several vnc sessions at the same time, so not sure what that means
[23:22] <judahlion> vulcanmum: in irssi its: /q nickname
[23:22] <vulcanmum> ok thanks Rallias
[23:23] <kristopher> i would like to use my laptop as a desktop but after i make external display my main and reboot it goes back to laptop display. then i have to redo the settings after every reboot or shut down
[23:23] <flyinprogramer> following this guide to setup a home ldap/samba server; http://www.danbishop.org/2012/06/02/ubuntu-12-04-ultimate-server-guide-first-draft/3/;  which is awesome, except ldap definitely isn't working right now, i try and do ldapaddgroup and i get: DNS SRV: Could not turn DN="localhost" into a domain, -> Error adding group domainadmins to LDAP
[23:23] <Rallias> compdoc my big anti-vnc reason is that it's all one window when I connect, I can't pull those windows outside of the VNC.
[23:23] <michealPW> vulcanmum: In XChat use the top menu: XChat -> New -> Server Tab
[23:23] <michealPW> vulcanmum: That will open a new server tab. Then in that new server tab, just type /server address.of.server
[23:24] <vulcanmum> ok I'm having a problem with ubuntu restricted extras
[23:24] <compdoc> Rallias, hmm, I think I see how you do it. Its the client, then
[23:24] <michealPW> vulcanmum: Or, in that new tab, click XChat -> Network List.. and use that.
[23:24] <actionParsnip> vulcanmum: in what way?
[23:24] <flyinprogramer> err i get: ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) errors
[23:24] <Rallias> I just want to do x-forwarding
[23:24] <Rallias> but with windows that stick around even after I log out.
[23:24] <vulcanmum> oh ok thanks guys let me see if I can make this work
[23:25] <vulcanmum> I just only recently got decent internet, I've been stuck on dial up since we got it in 97!
[23:25] <kristopher> i want my external display to stay as my main but i have to change it back after every reboot
[23:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anyone able to help with a sound problem? I can hear my mic through my headphones but cant get it to work with actual apps
[23:26] <zykotick9> kristopher: save to your xorg.conf (if you have one).  what video card are you using ("lspci | grep -i vga" from terminal if unsure)?
[23:27] <michealPW> vulcanmum: Woot, I remember dial-up!
[23:27] <Radikal08> Hello, im trying to install a theme... and im trying to run a command, but its not workign, but i can use something called "PPA" instead, what is a ppa?
[23:27] <zykotick9> Radikal08: see "/msg ubottu ppa"
[23:27] <vulcanmum> ok I figured out how to add my other server thanks guys
[23:28] <bazhang> !addppa | Radikal08
[23:28] <Radikal08> thank you!
[23:28] <WeThePeople> anybody know what this error means>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284113/
[23:28] <vulcanmum> michaelni,  I have only had satellite internet for like three weeks, so I'm playing web catch up hard
[23:29] <kristopher> i hate to be that guy but im a noob. i use a hp pavilion dv5-1183cl with nvidia geforce 9600m gt. its a laptop i use as a desktop.
[23:30] <kristopher> so i close the lid and just use a external tv hooked up hdmi
[23:30] <zykotick9> kristopher: in nvidia-settings use the "save settings" (or similar named) button
[23:30] <vulcanmum> ok with ubuntu restricted extras I'm trying to intall it, it wouldn't install thru software center so I copied  "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" to that terminal
[23:31] <kristopher> zykotick9: i do save it but i have to redo it after every reboot
[23:31] <vulcanmum> I got all the way thru it until it had a $ sign and a command prompt
[23:32] <zykotick9> kristopher: sorry. i have no suggestion then. best of luck.
[23:32] <vulcanmum> :)
[23:32] <vulcanmum> so xchat doesn't have smilies
[23:32] <kristopher> np thanks for trying.
[23:32] <vulcanmum> zykes-,  any help with my problem?
[23:32] <vulcanmum> brb coffee
[23:33] <zykotick9> kristopher: when you run/open nvidia-settings, does it ask for your sudo password?  if not, then try "gksudo nvidia-settings" make your changes, then use the save button.
[23:33] <Deckking> Yo peoples
[23:34] <rcmaehl> I need help unlocking a HDD with hdparm. It's been forever and a half since I last used it so I forgot how.
[23:34] <WeThePeople> yo deckking
[23:34] <Guest39623> my siund dont work
[23:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anyone able to help with a sound problem? I can hear my mic through my headphones but cant get it to work with actual apps
[23:34] <Guest39623> sound
[23:34] <kristopher> wait one while i try because no it has never asked me for password.
[23:34] <bobofosho123> hello
[23:34] <michealPW> vulcanmum: Well, after apt-get runs unless there was a problem it will just exit and bring you back to your terminal (The dollar sign $)
[23:35] <bobofosho123> I know this an ubuntu support channel, but does anyone here use windows 7 at all?
[23:35] <rcmaehl> bobofosho123: ##windows
[23:35] <bobofosho123> much obliged
[23:35] <kristopher> do i type that in terminal?
[23:35] <zykotick9> kristopher: "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[23:38] <kristopher> sweet it came right up and didnt even have to go through settings.... but it already had the settings im using now. should i reboot then do it the way you said?
[23:38] <michealPW> vulcanmum: You can test it by simply playing an MP3, I think (ubuntu-restricted-extras provides mp3 codecs, among others right?)
[23:39] <Marzatha> if I have 8-16 GB RAM, what size the swap should be?
[23:39] <zykotick9> kristopher: did you click the "save to xorg" button?  if so, yes, reboot to test.
[23:39] <zykotick9> Marzatha: do you want to use hibernate?
[23:39] <Marzatha> zykotick9: yes and suspend
[23:40] <zykotick9> Marzatha: must be larger then physical memory then!
[23:40] <kristopher> is that the save to x configuration file at the bottom?
[23:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> Anyone able to help with a sound problem? I can hear my mic through my headphones but cant get it to work with actual apps
[23:40] <zykotick9> Marzatha: fyi for hibernate only, suspend doesn't have that limitation.
[23:40] <zykotick9> kristopher: yes.
[23:41] <Marzatha> zykotick9: ok, if not hibernate? what size the spam?
[23:41] <kristopher> then im screwed... it came back with Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[23:41] <vulcanmum> mich yes that's what it does, I'm hoping by installing it I will be able to get my music off of my harddrive
[23:42] <actionParsnip> kristopher: run: sudo nvidia-xconfig     first
[23:42] <zykotick9> kristopher: spam = 0 ;)  swap with 8GB+ memory could be fairly small, but you need some!
[23:42] <Guest39623> i have sb 24 bit live.....wheres my sound
[23:42] <zykotick9> kristopher: actionParsnip is correct
[23:42] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[23:43] <vulcanmum> when I installed clementine it brought in my music from my usb drive but not my computer...anyone know how I can do that? will I just have to put all my music on my flashdrive using windows for clementine to use it?
[23:43] <zykotick9> Marzatha: spam = 0 ;)  swap with 8GB+ memory could be fairly small, but you need some!
[23:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: made alsa info file
[23:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: want it pastie'd?
[23:44] <DenverDave> hello.. just installed 12.04 and trying to get middle mouse button scrolling in FF.. found several items but none work.. any pointers?
[23:44] <michealPW> vulcanmum: I dont' use Clementine but you probably just have to open it's settings and point it to your music on your computer, like the directory it's in.
[23:44] <Marzatha> zykotick9: so do ppl use hibernate at all?
[23:44] <kristopher> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[23:44] <kristopher> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[23:44] <kristopher>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[23:44] <kristopher> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[23:44] <kristopher> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[23:44] <FloodBot1> kristopher: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <michealPW> vulcanmum: By default it probably just isn't looking in the particular directory (Folder) your music is stored on your computer.
[23:45] <zykotick9> Marzatha: i do, it's an uptime cheat ;)  but it's disabled by default in recent ubuntu versions!
[23:45] <kristopher> i didnt mean to screw that up sorry
[23:45] <kristopher> but thats what i got
[23:45] <Marzatha> zykotick9: but with 16 GB ....
[23:45] <Marzatha> zykotick9: thank you!
[23:46] <ls612> Does anyone know if there is an Eclipse Juno package for 12.04? Currently the one on the Software Center is still the Indigo package.
[23:46] <zykotick9> Marzatha: in order to use hibernate you'd need 16+GB swap ;)
[23:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: http://pastie.org/5070464 is the output
[23:46] <kristopher> after i did the sudo nvidia thin you said
[23:46] <zykotick9> kristopher: DON'T use sudo with GUI apps, use gksudo!!!
[23:46] <zykotick9> kristopher: you can read "/msg ubottu gksudo" for deatils
[23:47] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install --reinstall pavucontrol linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[23:47] <kristopher> i thought you said... kristopher: run: sudo nvidia-xconfig     first
[23:47] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: wait 10 seconds, then reboot
[23:47] <michealPW> LOL who posted that "FTPMustDie" article? It's hilarious, good read ;)
[23:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: i dont have pulse installed
[23:47] <DenverDave> hello.. just installed 12.04 and trying to get middle mouse button scrolling in FF.. found several items but none work.. any pointers?
[23:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> but will do that
[23:47] <zykotick9> kristopher: SORRY!  nvidia-xonfig IS a terminal application!  my bad.
[23:48] <michealPW> DenverDave: In the firefox configuration, you need to enable "Autoscrolling"
[23:48] <kristopher> and i ran it like you said but it came back with bunch of stuff i posted on here. but the web bot got on to me.
[23:48] <DenverDave> michealPW, I did and still not like in winbloze..
[23:49] <michealPW> DenverDave: What do you mean, what's the problem exactly?
[23:49] <zykotick9> kristopher: you might want to see "/msg ubottu paste" in your irc client
[23:49] <Guest39623> got sb 24 bit live......wheres my sound
[23:49] <DenverDave> michealPW, I want to be able to use my middle scroll button to scroll up and down in FF
[23:49] <DenverDave> I have tried the pushbutton of scroll button but not liking it
[23:50] <ph1rm> hello, i think im haveing trubble with my repos. when i go to install anything it comes up with a bunch of errors and cant download anything
[23:50] <actionParsnip> Guest39623: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[23:50] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[23:50] <juniour_> ph1rm restart you system
[23:50] <michealPW> Right.. But after you check that option in FF's config and you press down your scroll wheel, you get an autoscroll icon appear and you can scroll up and down by moving your mouse up and down yes?
[23:50] <ph1rm> okay will do
[23:50] <michealPW> Sorry, DenverDave ^
[23:50] <DenverDave> michealPW, no worries..
[23:51] <zykotick9> DenverDave: do you mean scroll wheel BUTTON (aka button3) then mouse pointer to scroll up/down?  OR just mouse wheel scroll?
[23:51] <kristopher> i hope you have a heart for noobs cause i have no idea what you mean by that im sorry. /msg ubottu paste in irc client
[23:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: did what you said, still mic doesnt work
[23:52] <DenverDave> zykotick9, just scroll the middle button up and down and have the page do the same without moving the mouse
[23:52] <PMantis> Hi guys. Is there a way to show a different background on the lock screen than on my desktop?
[23:52] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: did you run the command I gave?
[23:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: yes
[23:52] <michealPW> kistopher: Just type that into this chat "/msg ubottu paste" without the quotes :P
[23:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: then waited and rebooted
[23:52] <ph1rm> what i get.. http://pastebin.com/P1dnmS26
[23:52] <actionParsnip> PMantis: ubuntu-tweak can do that I believe
[23:52] <zykotick9> DenverDave: IF you had an xorg.conf i'd suggest << Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[23:53] <PMantis> actionParsnip: I'll check. thank you. :)
[23:53] <michealPW> It will send a message to a bot, ubottu "paste" which causes the bot to reply automatically with useful information about pastebinit, I think.
[23:53] <zykotick9> DenverDave: sorry, >>
[23:53] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:53] <ph1rm>  precise
[23:53] <kristopher> thanks for that michealPW very much. now what?
[23:53] <michealPW> DenverDave: Oh! You mean your middle-mouse wheel doesn't scroll the screen at all?
[23:53] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: yet you have lucid in the output?
[23:54] <DenverDave> michealPW, bingo sir :)
[23:54] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: does the system have web access?
[23:54] <ph1rm> i attempted to fix it, i can take the lucid out easly
[23:54] <ph1rm> yes it dose
[23:55] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: what should i do now? =/
[23:55] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list; sudo apt-get update      is it smooth?
[23:55] <michealPW> DenverDave: Ah, well, that's a completely seperate issue then! I see, I'm on the right page now ;)
[23:55] <ph1rm> actuall i backed it up before tampering with it ill try that
[23:55] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: if you run the 'sound' app in dash, are the right input and output devices selected?
[23:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: you mean alsamixer?
[23:56] <Guest39623> someone help me with my sound
[23:56] <DenverDave> michealPW, sorry for the misunderstanding
[23:56] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: no, in dash there is a sound app.
[23:56] <WhereIsMySpoon> not in my dash
[23:57] <rcmaehl> I need help unlocking a HDD with hdparm. It's been forever and a half since I last used it so I forgot how.
[23:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: i have the "mixer" app
[23:57] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: search for the word:  sound   and you'll see it, or in the cog menu in top right you may seeit there
[23:57] <ph1rm> now i get
[23:57] <ph1rm> http://pastebin.com/Tqw6bs1d
[23:57] <Guest39623> my sound?
[23:58] <michealPW> DenverDave: Well normally Xorg should automatically probe and detect your mouse's wheel. I suppose you could use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to create an xorg.conf and then manually add the mapping for your mouse wheel to it.. :\
[23:58] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[23:58] <michealPW> Maybe somebody else in here has a better idea, DenverDave :P
[23:58] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: then run:   sudo apt-get update
[23:58] <WeThePeople> how do i run a setup.py  script
[23:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> WeThePeople: "python setup.py"
[23:58] <ph1rm> that had no return,
[23:58] <michealPW> So, should DenverDave use dpkg-reconfigure to generate an xorg.conf or is there a better way?
[23:58] <ph1rm> oh ok
[23:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> WeThePeople: or if you specified the env in the script, just ./setup.py
[23:59] <DenverDave> michealPW, can I try and reconfigure the mouse using one of the system tools?
[23:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: ok found it, volume control app with tabs n
[23:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> *on
[23:59] <WeThePeople> ok thanks
[23:59] <ph1rm> hmm no errors that time, how did you do that?
[23:59] <michealPW> DenverDave: Sure, maybe that will work better :)