[00:08] <BarkingFish> morning guys - anyone awake, I'm in need of help, thanks to my fiddling around with stuff I didn't fully understand.
[00:09] <BarkingFish> I installed the proprietary driver for my nvidia GeForce 6200 graphics card using Jockey-KDE, and now my monitor on the inbuilt graphics card won't go above 50Hz resolution, which is way too low for me.
[00:09] <BarkingFish> I'm a photosensitive epileptic, and at that level, I can clearly see the refresh. I need to get my monitor back to using whatever driver was there prior, but I don't know how to get rid of the driver I just installed :(
[00:10] <BarkingFish> i'm using a GUI at the moment, but I had to pop a spare PCI graphics card in my PC so I could use the display
[00:11] <BarkingFish> can anyone please help me?  Ideally, I need to get my monitor to refresh at 75Hz or higher - on the old driver, it would go to 80Hz.
[00:36] <BarkingFish> sorry guys - lost my connection for a bit.  Can anyone please, please help me fix the problem I pasted up in here about 20 minutes ago?
[00:37] <BarkingFish> At the moment, I'm on the verge of stripping the whole of kubuntu down and reinstalling.  If I can't fix it, and i can't get help to fix it, i reset and start again :)
[00:38] <BarkingFish> i'm not gonna have unnecessary junk in my machine - a second graphics card is junk when there's one already built in :)
[00:39] <genii-around> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current      will probably do it
[00:40] <BarkingFish> excellent :)  thank you.
[01:20] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:21] <SIR_Taco_> !bananasplit
[01:21] <genii-around> Hm
[01:21] <SIR_Taco_> darn...
[02:09] <avihay> !bananasplit
[02:31] <OerHeks> avihay, > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bananasplitter/files/
[02:32] <avihay> thanks, I've expected ubottu to know that
[02:52] <dniMretsaM> ok. my server is now configured to download Quantal via torrent whenever it appears online.
[02:53]  * dniMretsaM considers having it automatically put on a USB stick automatically as well
[02:54] <dniMretsaM> oops. wrong channel, lol
[03:51] <gurrag> How can I set up a Chinese input method in Kubuntu?
[03:55] <SIR_Taco_> !scim
[06:29] <CosmicB> I've told kde to 'show unmanaged windows on : Display containing the pointer' under system settings -> disp. and mon. -> multiple monitors . but still, new windows tend to pop up on my second monitor (the one _not_ containing the pointer) , has anyone run into that ?
[06:31] <shadeslayer> CosmicB: KDE version?
[06:31] <CosmicB> shadeslayer 4.8.5, kubuntu 12.04
[06:33] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: I'm using a laptop, it got 2 monitors connected at work, mabye something get confused when I'm having the internal monitor while at home, but 2 external monitors at work (?)
[06:33] <shadeslayer> CosmicB: could you try 4.9.2 from the PPA? Maybe your bug is fixed there?
[06:34] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: yeah, I could always try that.
[06:34] <shadeslayer> if it's not, please report a bug on bugs.kde.org :)
[06:35] <CosmicB> I did try 4.9.2 before the weekend, but after upgrading to 4.9.2 i wanted to install kubuntu-full for some reason, it wouldn't install because of dependencie problems, som I ended up downgrading againn
[06:35] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: yeah, will do :)
[06:49] <shadeslayer> oh my
[06:49] <shadeslayer> CosmicB: downgrading isn't really supported
[06:49]  * shadeslayer looks why kubuntu-full isn't installable
[06:50] <shadeslayer> hm, looks fine here
[06:51] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: and you've got 4.9.2 in kubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:52] <shadeslayer> yus
[06:53] <CosmicB> shadeslayer downgrade went fine with ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && apt-get autoremove
[06:53] <CosmicB> shadeslayer, but I'm gonna try a new upgrade, 4.9.2 was looking intereseting the 15 or so minutes I ran it
[06:54] <shadeslayer> hmm ... well ... I'm just saying that downgrading isn't really supported ;)
[06:54] <CosmicB> shadeslayer :p
[06:56] <shadeslayer> so you can downgrade, but you might encounter unexpected behaviour
[06:56] <CosmicB> su
[06:56] <CosmicB> $3ssEnc3
[06:56] <CosmicB> fuck
[06:56] <CosmicB> there goes my favorite password
[06:57] <bazhang> !language > CosmicB
[06:57] <shadeslayer> *cough* language
[06:57] <Tm_T> CosmicB: please watch your language
[06:58] <CosmicB> yeah yeah, no offense ment. it's not everyday I wreck my pass by sending it into a public irc channel
[06:59] <shadeslayer> that is exactly the reason why I don't use terminal irc clients like irssi :P
[07:00] <CosmicB> shadeslayer: I'm not, I'm  using konversation
[07:00] <shadeslayer> ah
[07:00] <shadeslayer> in which case, simply bad luck
[07:01] <CosmicB> but I've been in gnome since around 2004, and in unity for the last year or so. haven't been in kde for a long time, it takes a while to get utsed to those small diferences in how it behaves :p
[07:04]  * CosmicB is upgrading to 4.9.2
[09:56] <ovidiu-florin> is there a way I can set up KMail to read the HTML and display the messages with all the html content?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: it should be configurable
[10:12] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: I foud a setting, to add an HTML toolbar
[10:13] <ovidiu-florin> wich is very hard to click on, and by default it goes to plain text
[10:13] <ovidiu-florin> how can I set the default view to be HTML
[10:13] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[10:13] <shadeslayer> lemme see
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ok
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: Settings > Configure KMail > Security > Prefer HTML to text
[10:15] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: thank you
[10:15] <shadeslayer> np
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:45] <xevwork> I'm having an odd issue with X on Kubuntu 12.04.1 - When I leave my system on over night, most of the time when I get to it in the morning, the monitors won't get any signal from the graphics card.
[12:45] <xevwork> It's an ATI 6950
[13:05] <FlashDeluxe> hi! how can i open a .dmp file with linux? Is there a tool for it?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, is that a compressed file , if so try unp
[13:16] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj its a .dmp file, created by thunderbird (its crashing all the time) unp doesn`t know the format :-(
[13:17] <hateball> what is the actual mimetype? file whatever.dmp
[13:17] <hateball> FlashDeluxe: ^
[13:17] <hateball> an extension does not a file make
[13:18] <FlashDeluxe> MDMP crash report data
[13:18] <FlashDeluxe> hateball ^
[13:19] <hateball> Well what do you expect to do with it?
[13:19] <hateball> it's not a human readable crash log
[13:19] <FlashDeluxe> soo i guessed there was a program which makes it human readable?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> .dmp files are windows dump files according google , very hard to read , unless you use visual studio
[13:22] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj i guess with windows you got to use "windows debugging tools" thats the program where i read out minidumps, created by windows. But i thought there was soemthing for linux, too
[13:24] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, there might be a method , but like windows .exe files there's a problem using them in linux , I believe
[13:24] <shadeslayer> from what I'm reading dmp is for windows dumps
[13:24] <shadeslayer> not sure if there'll be a tool to parse them in Linux
[13:25] <FlashDeluxe> Maybe there is no sense in reading windows dumps in linux^^
[13:27] <shadeslayer> probably not
[13:27] <BluesKaj> wine , maybe ?
[13:28] <shadeslayer> well ... if windows has a tool to parse them, you could install wine, run the tool and read them
[13:28] <shadeslayer> but imo that's just so much hassle >.>
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , I avoid wine , sooner deal with windows files on the windows drive
[13:39] <FlashDeluxe> if anyone is interested: i could open it with winedbg
[13:41] <BluesKaj> BBL
[13:49] <danni> does any body know what the status is for synaptic drivers in 12.10
[13:49] <genii-around> danni: There was an update just now
[13:49] <danni> I found a package that lets synaptiks run
[13:49] <genii-around> ( for kde-config-touchpad )
[13:50] <danni> but there are options missing and without those options
[13:50] <danni> 12.10 is unusable for me
[13:50] <danni> (well without starting syndaemon from the command line)
[13:51] <danni> two things really no option to disable touchpad while typing
[13:52] <danni> and 2) no global shortcut for enabling disabling touchpad
[13:53] <danni> are fixes for any of these planned before release?
[13:54] <shadeslayer> I would suggest reporting bugs and adding them to the ISO QA tracker
[13:54] <shadeslayer> that gives developers more visibility about pending issues :)
[13:54] <lordievader> danni: There is a unity indicator for disabling the touchpad, this also offers a keyboard shortcut.
[13:54] <shadeslayer> relevant URL : http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[13:57] <danni> using KDE here
[13:57] <danni> i don't think  a unity indicator is going to be much help
[13:57] <lordievader> danni: It will, indicators work fine under kde.
[13:57] <danni> ok
[13:59] <danni> does anybody know the rational behind  the removed functionality?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> just checking out xchat on windows
[13:59] <danni> lordievader: do you know the name of the package?
[14:00] <lordievader> danni: touchpad-indicator, not sure if you needed a ppa for it..
[14:02] <tragopaparo> akouei kanas malakas?
[14:02] <of> What package are you guys use for PPTP vpn connection? Does network-manager-kde work? I can't make it work
[14:03] <shadeslayer> of: do you have the backported package from kubuntu backports?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> I recently uploaded a new nm-kde which had support for vpn's and openconnect
[14:04] <of> I installed kde 4.9 (Recent update)
[14:05] <of> How can i upgrade the network-manager?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> can you check if nm-kde is up to date?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-networkmanagement network-manager-pptp
[14:08] <of> already newest version.... I installed the kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu
[14:11] <shadeslayer> hm
[14:11] <shadeslayer> of: not sure then, can you report a bug on bugs.kde.org ?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> maybe it gets solved with new nm-pptp?
[14:16] <of> nah
[14:16] <shadeslayer> I meant, maybe it's solved with nm-pptp 0.9.6.0-0ubuntu1 :)
[14:17] <shadeslayer> but I can't be sure
[14:21] <tragopaparo> poustaria oloi
[14:23] <danni> is it possible to use dkms to patch a driver already in the kernel?
[14:24] <of> shadeslayer, Is there any deb package of this version?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> !gr | tragopaparo
[14:27] <shadeslayer> kind of
[14:28] <shadeslayer> of: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/0.9.6.0-0ubuntu1
[14:28] <shadeslayer> you'll have to manually install the debs, but I'm not even sure if they'll install
[14:28] <shadeslayer> or work as expected
[14:29] <of> Already looking at that page... Perhaps i should apply the patch using dpkg-source?
[14:30] <shadeslayer> if you have a launchpad account you can make a ppa and run backportpackage to backport that package for precise
[14:30] <lawrence> hello
[14:30]  * BluesKaj avoids NM , except on wifi
[14:30] <shadeslayer> that'll be the right way to do it
[14:31] <lawrence> hello shade
[14:42] <shadeslayer> of: I can't really give you anymore advice since I have absolutely no idea about this :)
[14:42] <Kalidarn> pptp is best avoided
[14:43] <Kalidarn> i believe there's a number of security concerns with that protocol
[14:44] <Kalidarn> you should be using something better like ipsec, openvpn or openconnect
[14:46] <Kalidarn> of: you can however use pptp in the dropdown box for networkmanager
[14:46] <Kalidarn> least i've seen the option there, haven't personally tried that type of VPN connection though
[15:01] <vollnut-3> hullo?
[15:02] <lordievader> Hey Vollnut-3, how are you?
[15:03] <Vollnut-3> nice, you?
[15:03] <lordievader> Vollnut-3: I can't complain :)
[15:03] <lordievader> Vollnut-3: Do you have a problem with Kubuntu?
[15:04] <Vollnut-3> no, i was just seeing how this program works, kinda new with Linux
[15:05] <Vollnut-3> didnt realize this was a support channel, shoulda read more carefully
[15:05] <lordievader> Vollnut-3: It's oke, no worries.
[15:05] <Vollnut-3> Yeah, thanks
[15:06] <Vollnut-3> Just a slow day here.
[15:08] <Vollnut-3> well thanks for the  welcome, ill be sure to come here if i need help. Thanks take care
[15:53] <Wizard> Yo ;)
[16:34] <martinjh99> GUys if 12.10 is out then there is no release files at cdimage.ubuntu.com only both Betas
[17:21] <Riddell> 12.10 candidate images needing testing now, join us in #kubuntu-devel
[17:27] <evll> just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 - went as smooth as possible. thank you guys
[17:28] <Peace-> evll: good
[17:29] <Riddell> evll: can you report that on iso.qa.ubuntu.com ?
[17:34] <evll> Riddell: unfortunately I do not see where I can do this on that site
[17:34] <Riddell> evll: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26094/testcases
[17:34] <Riddell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26095/testcases
[17:35] <evll> I press login and see
[17:35] <evll>  Access denied
[17:35] <evll> You are not authorized to access this page.
[17:36] <evll> http://susepaste.org/90706424
[17:36] <evll> but I am logged in
[17:36] <evll> Complete the registration by filling out the form below. - this error message is misleading as well
[17:36] <evll> there is no form below
[17:36] <evll> as you can see from the sreenshot
[17:36] <Riddell> uh hmm dunno, time to give up I guess, thanks for trying
[17:37] <evll> :) np
[18:00] <danni> ok I partially have gotten this patch to work
[18:00] <danni> https://github.com/mmonaco/PKGBUILDs
[18:15] <brohan> I am having 2 issues with my system I am hoping for help with. #1 sometimes Java is detetected on websites and works, sometimes it is not, even on the same website. 2nd, is with video and ffmpeg. I can not watch video (I can hear audio) with Dragon player (I have no other player installed) it looks for gstreamer package, but can't install it
[18:16] <brohan> when I try to manually install, it needs various other packages that can not be installed, same if I just try to install ffmpeg package
[18:20] <genii-around> brohan: Please try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-gstreamer
[18:21] <brohan> Will do, but I get a can't get lock message, even though I don't see any package programs open, update etc.
[18:22] <brohan> OH didn't put sudo in first
[18:23] <brohan> Here is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285576/
[18:24] <genii-around> brohan: For the java issue, can you pastebin result of: update-alternatives --list java
[18:25] <brohan> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[18:25] <brohan> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[18:25] <genii-around> !pastebin
[18:25] <shadeslayer> genii-around: I'd say 2 line pastes are acceptable :)
[18:25] <brohan> I had figured 2 was a limit
[18:26] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Yes, I was expecting more to come actually....
[18:26] <shadeslayer> as a general rule, I find 3 lines to be an acceptable limit
[18:26] <brohan> genii-around here is what is interesting. On a website I have to use a screencast recorder that is a plugin, that website says no Java detected. I go to the maker of the plugin screenr, and can record a screencast just fine, no error. HOWEVER if I go to the screenr get java page it says no java detected
[18:27] <brohan> even though on that same site it works fine. That baffles me (which baffling me in Linux doesn't take much)
[18:28] <shadeslayer> java is fun
[18:28] <brohan> I can go back to the ffmpeg issue (and dragon player) and post screenshots of what happens when trying to play a video and trying to rectify it
[18:28] <shadeslayer> brohan: what's the video type you're trying to play?
[18:28] <genii-around> work, afk 5-7 minutes, sorry
[18:28] <brohan> .mov. It says I need th h.264 decoder, no surprise there
[18:29] <shadeslayer> right
[18:29] <brohan> the surprise is when I try to get the recommeded package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:29] <shadeslayer> do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[18:29] <shadeslayer> mhmm?
[18:29] <brohan> package could not be initialized, config broken
[18:29] <shadeslayer> hmph
[18:30] <shadeslayer> could you pastebin the error?
[18:30] <brohan> yes the plugins-ugly is installed
[18:30] <brohan> the error comes in the form of screenshots, I will take and post sequencially
[18:31] <shadeslayer> well ... I just need the output of what happens when you try and install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:31] <brohan> I tried that from the package manager, not command line
[18:31] <brohan> how do I do it command line style?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> can you try via command line?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[18:32] <brohan> from GUI:
[18:32] <brohan> The "gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:
[18:32] <brohan> 	or libavformat53, but is not installable
[18:32] <brohan> 	or libavcodec53, but is not installable
[18:32] <FloodBotK1> brohan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <brohan> ok, 3 is the limit
[18:33] <brohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285605/ is the result
[18:34] <brohan> installing libavcodec53 give me the error it depends on libx264-120 but it is not installable
[18:35] <shadeslayer> what happens when you try and install  libx264-120
[18:35] <brohan> searching for libx264-120 in the package manager returns no results BUT I do have libx264-123 installed
[18:36] <shadeslayer> odd
[18:36] <shadeslayer> brohan: are you sure you have universe enabled?
[18:36] <brohan> universe?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> !find libx264-123
[18:36]  * shadeslayer doesn't see a libx264-123 on his precise install
[18:36] <shadeslayer> !find libx264-123 quantal
[18:37] <shadeslayer> uhhh
[18:37] <shadeslayer> brohan: are you on quantal?
[18:37] <brohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1285611/
[18:37] <brohan> I believe so. I did a fresh install when it was BETA 1
[18:37] <shadeslayer> that was not for you :P
[18:38] <brohan> I had Ubuntu 12.04 giving me issues from too many desktop installs, so I wiped clean and installed fresh with Kubunutu 12.10 Beta 1 live cd
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Ideally libavformat53 should depend on  libx264-123
[18:39] <shadeslayer> also
[18:39] <shadeslayer> #ubuntu+1
[18:40] <brohan> try the beta channel?
[18:41] <brohan> or wait till tomorrow when it is fully released :-)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> please ask in #ubuntu+1 since Quantal isn't really released ;)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> plus, no way for me to help since I don't have a quantal system to debug
[18:42] <lordievader> Shouldn't Quantal be discussed in #ubuntu+1?
[18:43] <brohan> Okay. I will ask there. Same with my Java issues?
[18:43] <lordievader> Nvm I can't read...
[18:43] <brohan> Isn't the official release date of 12.10 tomorrow?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> dunno, can't really say anything about java
[18:43] <brohan> Okay.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> brohan: yes, and until then, you use #ubuntu+1 since it's not been released yet
[18:44] <brohan> I really do appreciate your help
[18:44] <brohan> okay
[18:44] <brohan> TTYL!
[18:45] <genii-around> Didn't go to +1 so probably we'll see them here tomorrow
[18:46] <Wizard> Java? +1?
[18:49] <shadeslayer> genii-around: heh yeah
[18:49] <shadeslayer> but I still won't have quantal, so still won't be able to help him :P
[18:50] <genii-around> Wizard: #ubuntu+1 which is the channel for 12.10
[18:50] <Wizard> :)
[18:51] <Wizard> Quantal panics on my powerbook, so I won't risk updating.
[18:51] <Wizard> LTS is fair enough.
[18:52] <lordievader> I'll just see when I'm going to upgrade, I think somewhere tommorow I'll update my desktop to see how it is, and later (perhaps) update my laptop.
[18:53] <Wizard> Tommorow is the issue date?
[18:53] <piotrn1> luckily there is weekend coming up, update on Saturday, fix it on Sunday :)
[18:53] <Wizard> :D
[18:53] <lordievader> Hehe
[18:54] <piotrn1> there are bound the be some issues... I'll wait with update for sure
[18:55] <lordievader> My desktop is just a machine to ssh into my server (where this irc client is running), so I don't really care if the update breaks the machine...
[18:56] <piotrn1> Well... I'm sure ssh will work... what I'm afraid about are: ati drivers, flash on x64, ect...
[18:57] <piotrn1> i have to reinstall anyway, since i'm on 32bit now, but need more ram...
[18:58] <Wizard> piotrn1: Ubuntu supports himem.
[18:58] <Wizard> At least works for me.
[18:58] <piotrn1> hmm
[18:58] <piotrn1> gota read about it
[18:59] <Wizard> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[19:00] <Wizard> :P
[19:00] <piotrn1> thanks
[19:00] <LordOfTime> there is a PAE limit, though, if you want something, like, 8GB of mem, go 64bit
[19:00] <LordOfTime> (just saying0
[19:00] <piotrn1> how about having graphisc drivers compiled against pae kernel / no problems there ?
[19:01] <piotrn1> 8gb is where i will go for sure, 16 if my motherboard can handle it../
[19:01] <piotrn1> sony says it cant, but gona check anyways..
[19:02] <Wizard> piotrn1: Dunno, i've never cared about gfx drivers.
[19:02] <LordOfTime> piotrn1, GFX usually work with PAE
[19:02] <piotrn1> Wizard: thanks anyways. :)
[19:02] <LordOfTime> if it doesn't file a kernel bug
[19:02] <piotrn1> LordOfTime: :) good to know, thanks
[19:02] <LordOfTime> the 32bit vs. 32bitPAE kernels arent too substantially different
[19:03] <LordOfTime> and drivers end up as part of the kernel eventually, so...
[19:03] <LordOfTime> *shurgs*
[19:03] <piotrn1> :)
[19:03] <LordOfTime> tbh...
[19:03] <LordOfTime> 95% of the stuff I do is CLI anyways
[19:03] <LordOfTime> so i don't *need* to have a GUI ;P
[19:04] <Wizard> And what about porn?
[19:04] <piotrn1> hehehe
[19:04] <piotrn1> asci graphisc :)
[19:04] <LordOfTime> um...
[19:04] <LordOfTime> i think that's  against the 'family friendly' atmosphere dude...
[19:04] <LordOfTime> *shrugs*
[19:04] <LordOfTime> not my call though
[19:05] <Wizard> Ok, sorry.
[19:05] <Wizard> I thought families should be aware of what pr0n is. This political correctness makes me sick sometimes ;)
[19:05] <Wizard> (Further discussions on this → #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:21] <danielle> recherche   des   images  de   robes   mariges
[19:22] <hellslinger> the the apt/ppa servers slow today or is it just me?
[19:23] <genii-around> hellslinger: They've slowed down, yes. High loads as 12.10 nears completion.
[19:31] <danielle> danielle  : vervisch @ numericable,fr connectez-vous  sur  : http : // assistance ,numericable , fr / assistance_mail  et para mm
[19:32] <danielle> rechercc
[19:33] <danielle> recherche  motifes  de  noels
[19:33] <bazhang> !fr
[20:10] <oneadvent> ok, tomorrow 12.10 releases, should i move from 12.04 to it? what will be the advantages/disadvantages
[20:13] <Graf_Westerholt> oneadvent, you would get new versions of the software.
[20:13] <Wizard> And new bugs.
[20:13] <Graf_Westerholt> You can fix or report them. ;)
[20:14] <oneadvent> hmm
[20:14] <oneadvent> i'm wondering cause i'd be going from LTS to regular releases if there would be problems
[20:14] <oneadvent> i once had a bad upgrade and i think it was cause i had to do that
[20:14] <oneadvent> is there a list of the updated packages?
[20:15] <Wizard> You can check wiki.
[20:15] <Wizard> Technically, all packages in the system will be upgraded.
[20:16] <soee> 12.10 work perfect for me :)
[20:16] <oneadvent> well specifically i'm thinking of gimp, it is the only program i need updated, everything else is good to go at this point, no problems
[20:16] <Wizard> oneadvent: Have you checked backports?
[20:17] <Wizard> Maybe newer gimp is there.
[20:17] <oneadvent> hmm no, i'm not sure where to do that. i'm looking for the version that allows for single window mode
[20:17] <oneadvent> kinda not very important :P
[20:19] <dahlia> how do I share a folder with windows computers? I set user and password in the sharing panel in system settings but I cant find anything that lets me specify wihch folders to share
[20:19] <dahlia> Ive clicked all over dolphin but nothing there either
[20:20] <oneadvent> dahlia: i'm not sure if this is defaut, but on mine i can right click on the folder i want to share and then click properties and then share tab
[20:20] <dahlia> I right click and nothing happens
[20:21] <dahlia> oh I see I have to click the name, not the folder
[20:21] <oneadvent> you can right click on the folder but not on the + and -
[20:21] <oneadvent> so you know
[20:22] <dahlia> on dolphin?
[20:22] <oneadvent> yea
[20:22] <dahlia> hmmm
[20:22] <oneadvent> see how when you hover you get a green +
[20:22] <oneadvent> dont right click on that or it just turns to a -
[20:22] <dahlia> in list view?
[20:22] <oneadvent> it is used to select multiple folders
[20:22] <oneadvent> (or files)
[20:23] <oneadvent> oh i'm not sure, lemme look, i'm in icon view, medium sized
[20:23] <dahlia> oh I dont get anything when I hover
[20:23] <dahlia> tried icon view too
[20:23] <oneadvent> oh yea, you are in detailed mode and the plus does take up the whole icon
[20:23] <oneadvent> well whatever it works to do it on the folder name anyway :D
[20:24] <dahlia> ty
[20:25] <oneadvent> np good luck with windows side
[20:25] <dahlia> so I get a sharing tab but it only has a place to allow guest, not regular uwers
[20:25] <oneadvent> easiest way i've found is to just map it and use the name like: \\192.168.1.1\shareFolder
[20:25] <dahlia> *users
[20:25] <dahlia> I have windows side working
[20:25] <oneadvent> lol :P
[20:26] <dahlia> lol
[20:26] <oneadvent> the users should be listed under the Allow Guests
[20:26] <oneadvent> you dont have to allow guests you could use your own system users
[20:26] <dahlia> its all dark under allow guests
[20:26] <oneadvent> but you can use the drop downs right?
[20:26] <dahlia> hmmm
[20:27] <dahlia> nope drop down is disabled
[20:27] <dahlia> maybe somthing else is borked
[20:27] <oneadvent> i only ever just allow everyone, my network is just in my house so pretty insecure
[20:27] <oneadvent> can you not click those drop downs?
[20:27] <dahlia> nope greyed out
[20:27] <oneadvent> did you click the top box (share with samba)
[20:28] <oneadvent> above name there
[20:28] <oneadvent> i think that is what allows the rest of that box
[20:28] <dahlia> ok I see full control drop down now
[20:29] <dahlia> I think my theme may be making it difficult to see
[20:29]  * dahlia is legally blind and has UI use difficulties...
[20:29] <oneadvent> yea i know mine does...i work at night so i try and keep everything dark
[20:29] <serkan> Hi everybody.
[20:30] <oneadvent> hi
[20:30] <dahlia> YAY it works now, TYVM oneadvent :)
[20:30] <oneadvent> no prob dahlia glad you got it!
[20:37] <dahlia> hmmm it wont let me share my home folder
[20:39] <genii-around> Do you have samba installed?
[20:39] <dahlia> ya I can share subfolders but not my home folder
[20:41] <oneadvent> hmm maybe it is taking a while to do it all
[20:41] <oneadvent> i mean that would be much bigger than a subfolder
[20:41] <oneadvent> never tried to do the home folder but can't think of why you COULDN'T
[20:42] <dahlia> I used to share / which is what I really want
[20:42] <lordievader> oneadvent: Because it has it permission set to 600.
[20:43] <lordievader> Or 700...
[21:32] <oneadvent> lol i stepped away lordievader and dahlia, i am sure you can't share /, and really that isn't a great idea to do it. you would have to run samba as root and that would be bad bad
[22:37] <Ramtron> Hi, is there a command to re-install Java? Mine is messing up.
[22:43] <genii-around> Ramtron: Depends on what java you're using. But probably sudo apt-get install --reinstall openjdk-7-jre
[22:44] <Ramtron> darn can you say that again? i clicked clear instead of copy
[22:44] <Ramtron> second time today
[22:44] <Ramtron> just the command, if you will
[22:45] <genii-around> Ramtron: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall openjdk-7-jre      or put 6 instead of 7 there
[22:45] <Ramtron> Perfect, thank you
[22:50] <michaelc22> question for kuuntu is there any mac address changer program?
[22:53] <yofel> !info macchanger | michaelc22
[23:06] <bjrohan> I could use some help with 2 things, Java which is acting weird on the same website, and ffmpeg - video issue
[23:11] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: did you try #ubuntu+1 as was suggested to you earlier?
[23:16] <bjrohan> Yes, no answer
[23:16] <bjrohan> dead
[23:17] <julien__> a