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jbichadarkxst: good catch! I'm testing it now00:07
darkxstoh no, it cached every attempt to add gmail account, now its loading them all at once00:07
jbichadarkxst: it still doesn't work with GOA, does it?00:26
darkxstI didnt try, but that could well be a different bug00:29
darkxstjbicha, actually yes it fixed the GOA issue also00:30
jbichahmm, actually it still failed here00:30
jbichaoh, let me try logging out00:31
darkxstyou may need to make sure evolution-source-registry process gets reloaded00:31
jbichaoh yeah, you're right about all the other attempted accounts magically showing up00:35
darkxstyeh, obviously they were shoved into a queue that never got processed due the missing modules00:35
jbichaawesome, it works00:36
darkxstyep :)00:38
jbichadarkxst: wow, e-d-s has been broken since July01:00
jbichaooh, I believe that fixes Contacts being broken with GOA too01:02
darkxstwell, thunderbird is the default these days isnt ?01:04
darkxstbut gnome-shell is quite heavily integrated with e-d-s01:05
jbichaContacts is shipped in Ubuntu because of Empathy01:05
jbichathunderbird uses e-d-s too but I don't know if it was affected01:05
darkxstoh right, I just got a bunch of gmail addressbook in thunderbird'01:07
darkxstso it was a whole lot of broken ....01:10
darkxstjbicha, are you planning to build isos with -proposed?02:41
darkxstor should gdm not have gone into proposed?02:46
jbichadarkxst: I'm pretty sure uploads at this point are supposed to go to -proposed02:57
jbichawhat are the pros/cons of building with -proposed to ensure we get the gdm update?02:58
darkxstpros - there are atleast 4 bug fixes02:58
darkxstcons - you may pull in unrelated broken packages02:59
darkxstgnome-shell  package also fixes a few pesky bugs03:00
darkxsti.e. user switching is essentially broken without the updates from proposed03:01
jbichagnome-shell is in quantal already03:01
jbichaI'll probably build with -proposed because I'm worried about upgrading gdm03:02
jbichaafter upgrading, I logged out and my login screen didn't come back...even though I tried sudo service gdm restart; stop; start, etc. and I just had to reboot03:03
jbichaI don't know how common that issue is, but gdm scares me because it's currently fairly fragile03:04
darkxstI have not hit that03:07
darkxstbut I am convinced there is an upstart issue causing problems with restarting gdm03:07
darkxsthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/104307703:09
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1043077 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart restarts DM to quickly" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:09
darkxstalso this is fixed in gdm 3.6.1 which I have hit a few times https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68598803:11
ubot5Gnome bug 685988 in general "Unable to unlock the screen after locking it, session state is closing" [Normal,Unconfirmed]03:11
DangerMhi hi03:18
darkxstjbicha, so essentially it is that last bug and classic/unity mode user switching03:20
darkxstand shutdown/restart in gdm fallback03:20
darkxstDangerM, hi03:20
DangerMhey bro03:21
DangerMhey jbicha03:21
darkxstjbicha, actually not entirely sure about the unlocking bug, seems to be systemd related03:22
darkxstbut I have had issues unlocking at times03:23
darkxstrobert_ancell, did you ever see this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/104307703:25
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1043077 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart restarts DM to quickly" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:25
darkxstjbicha, I wonder if we should add a short section to the release notes on how to get basically to ubuntu GNOME edition, without actually reinstalling?03:37
darkxsti.e. dist-upgrade, add the meta package, enable gdm etc03:38
jbichauh, has anybody tested that?03:42
jbichaI think I'd rather people did a clean install (but they can keep their /home)03:45
jbichato get the full effect, they'd need to set gdm as default & not have ubuntu-settings installed (but that's a dependency of ubuntu-desktop)03:46
jbichaand they'd have firefox, thunderbird, & libreoffice as default03:47
darkxstI kind of tested it, apart from removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice03:48
darkxstobviously a fresh install is better, but many people possibly won't bother03:50
darkxstwhereas people seem happy to paste in random commands off the interwebs!03:51
jbichaok, you can try adding that description to the release notes if you like with some kind of caveat that it's not quite the same as a fresh install03:52
DangerMthis is true03:55
DangerMbut installing gnome AND removing unity is patchy at best03:55
DangerMso anything below medium intelligence PC user and they've buggered their install beyond repair03:55
DangerMand when I say patch I mean dependancies and needed files change from one build to the next and its hard to keep tabs on them from my experience.03:56
jbichano, we're not going to recommend they remove unity03:56
DangerMOh just install Gnome ontop of the ubuntu/unity install03:56
DangerMyeah thats pretty straightforward03:56
DangerMfew apt-get commands and dpkg-reconfigure and you're off03:57
DangerMbit messy though03:57
darkxstwell we can handle most of it with dpkg --set-selections03:59
darkxstbut they will need to reconfigure gdm, unless we remove lightDM (which probably wouldn't do)04:00
DangerMOr you're not writing a howto you're building an installer04:00
DangerMI see04:00
darkxstno it will be a 2 liner howto I guess04:01
darkxstits a little to late to be building an installer!04:01
DangerMLol true however its not going to be a "clean" Gnome install04:02
DangerMbut anything that builds more traction to switching to the remix can't be bad I guess04:02
darkxstjbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284355/ that should be enough right?04:10
jbichayeah, but I'd just use apt-get04:19
jbichagood night!04:19
darkxstthis basically works.. but is a little messy! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.1004:53
darkxstsee 'upgrade' section04:54
Guest96819hello10:48
Guest96819does anyone knows where i can choose my keyboard model in gnome 3.4 ?10:48
jbichadarkxst: looks like we don't have to use -proposed after all for gdm :)13:26
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