[00:07] <jbicha> darkxst: good catch! I'm testing it now
[00:07] <darkxst> oh no, it cached every attempt to add gmail account, now its loading them all at once
[00:26] <jbicha> darkxst: it still doesn't work with GOA, does it?
[00:29] <darkxst> I didnt try, but that could well be a different bug
[00:30] <darkxst> jbicha, actually yes it fixed the GOA issue also
[00:30] <jbicha> hmm, actually it still failed here
[00:31] <jbicha> oh, let me try logging out
[00:31] <darkxst> you may need to make sure evolution-source-registry process gets reloaded
[00:35] <jbicha> oh yeah, you're right about all the other attempted accounts magically showing up
[00:35] <darkxst> yeh, obviously they were shoved into a queue that never got processed due the missing modules
[00:36] <jbicha> awesome, it works
[00:38] <darkxst> yep :)
[01:00] <jbicha> darkxst: wow, e-d-s has been broken since July
[01:02] <jbicha> ooh, I believe that fixes Contacts being broken with GOA too
[01:04] <darkxst> well, thunderbird is the default these days isnt ?
[01:05] <darkxst> but gnome-shell is quite heavily integrated with e-d-s
[01:05] <jbicha> Contacts is shipped in Ubuntu because of Empathy
[01:05] <jbicha> thunderbird uses e-d-s too but I don't know if it was affected
[01:07] <darkxst> oh right, I just got a bunch of gmail addressbook in thunderbird'
[01:10] <darkxst> so it was a whole lot of broken ....
[02:41] <darkxst> jbicha, are you planning to build isos with -proposed?
[02:46] <darkxst> or should gdm not have gone into proposed?
[02:57] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm pretty sure uploads at this point are supposed to go to -proposed
[02:58] <jbicha> what are the pros/cons of building with -proposed to ensure we get the gdm update?
[02:58] <darkxst> pros - there are atleast 4 bug fixes
[02:59] <darkxst> cons - you may pull in unrelated broken packages
[03:00] <darkxst> gnome-shell  package also fixes a few pesky bugs
[03:01] <darkxst> i.e. user switching is essentially broken without the updates from proposed
[03:01] <jbicha> gnome-shell is in quantal already
[03:02] <jbicha> I'll probably build with -proposed because I'm worried about upgrading gdm
[03:03] <jbicha> after upgrading, I logged out and my login screen didn't come back...even though I tried sudo service gdm restart; stop; start, etc. and I just had to reboot
[03:04] <jbicha> I don't know how common that issue is, but gdm scares me because it's currently fairly fragile
[03:07] <darkxst> I have not hit that
[03:07] <darkxst> but I am convinced there is an upstart issue causing problems with restarting gdm
[03:09] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1043077
[03:09] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1043077 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart restarts DM to quickly" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:11] <darkxst> also this is fixed in gdm 3.6.1 which I have hit a few times https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685988
[03:11] <ubot5> Gnome bug 685988 in general "Unable to unlock the screen after locking it, session state is closing" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[03:18] <DangerM> hi hi
[03:20] <darkxst> jbicha, so essentially it is that last bug and classic/unity mode user switching
[03:20] <darkxst> and shutdown/restart in gdm fallback
[03:20] <darkxst> DangerM, hi
[03:21] <DangerM> hey bro
[03:21] <DangerM> hey jbicha
[03:22] <darkxst> jbicha, actually not entirely sure about the unlocking bug, seems to be systemd related
[03:23] <darkxst> but I have had issues unlocking at times
[03:25] <darkxst> robert_ancell, did you ever see this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1043077
[03:25] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1043077 in upstart (Ubuntu) "upstart restarts DM to quickly" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:37] <darkxst> jbicha, I wonder if we should add a short section to the release notes on how to get basically to ubuntu GNOME edition, without actually reinstalling?
[03:38] <darkxst> i.e. dist-upgrade, add the meta package, enable gdm etc
[03:42] <jbicha> uh, has anybody tested that?
[03:45] <jbicha> I think I'd rather people did a clean install (but they can keep their /home)
[03:46] <jbicha> to get the full effect, they'd need to set gdm as default & not have ubuntu-settings installed (but that's a dependency of ubuntu-desktop)
[03:47] <jbicha> and they'd have firefox, thunderbird, & libreoffice as default
[03:48] <darkxst> I kind of tested it, apart from removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice
[03:50] <darkxst> obviously a fresh install is better, but many people possibly won't bother
[03:51] <darkxst> whereas people seem happy to paste in random commands off the interwebs!
[03:52] <jbicha> ok, you can try adding that description to the release notes if you like with some kind of caveat that it's not quite the same as a fresh install
[03:55] <DangerM> this is true
[03:55] <DangerM> but installing gnome AND removing unity is patchy at best
[03:55] <DangerM> so anything below medium intelligence PC user and they've buggered their install beyond repair
[03:56] <DangerM> and when I say patch I mean dependancies and needed files change from one build to the next and its hard to keep tabs on them from my experience.
[03:56] <jbicha> no, we're not going to recommend they remove unity
[03:56] <DangerM> Oh just install Gnome ontop of the ubuntu/unity install
[03:56] <DangerM> yeah thats pretty straightforward
[03:57] <DangerM> few apt-get commands and dpkg-reconfigure and you're off
[03:57] <DangerM> bit messy though
[03:59] <darkxst> well we can handle most of it with dpkg --set-selections
[04:00] <darkxst> but they will need to reconfigure gdm, unless we remove lightDM (which probably wouldn't do)
[04:00] <DangerM> Or you're not writing a howto you're building an installer
[04:00] <DangerM> I see
[04:01] <darkxst> no it will be a 2 liner howto I guess
[04:01] <darkxst> its a little to late to be building an installer!
[04:02] <DangerM> Lol true however its not going to be a "clean" Gnome install
[04:02] <DangerM> but anything that builds more traction to switching to the remix can't be bad I guess
[04:10] <darkxst> jbicha, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284355/ that should be enough right?
[04:19] <jbicha> yeah, but I'd just use apt-get
[04:19] <jbicha> good night!
[04:53] <darkxst> this basically works.. but is a little messy! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[04:54] <darkxst> see 'upgrade' section
[10:48] <Guest96819> hello
[10:48] <Guest96819> does anyone knows where i can choose my keyboard model in gnome 3.4 ?
[13:26] <jbicha> darkxst: looks like we don't have to use -proposed after all for gdm :)
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