[00:26] <wxl> phillw: just to verify something i know that technically the testcase doesn't pass for me because of #19 here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1437/info but if i make the xorg.conf which i know i have to (and this will go in the wiki) then it works fine … so should i call it passed?
[00:43] <phillw> wxl: you can either leave a comment, or, preferred.. .raise a grey bug that points to the work around.
[00:43] <phillw> balloons: which do you prefer?
[00:44] <balloons> phillw, sounds like you prefer a bug?
[00:45] <balloons> are we going to fix it at some point? I would pass it but point it at the bug
[00:45] <phillw> balloons: I prefer release note.
[00:45] <balloons> since the install completes
[00:45] <balloons> if the install did not complete, I would fail it
[00:45] <phillw> balloons: it passes, if you do the xorg.conf
[00:46] <phillw> balloons: as all the ppc need xorg.conf, I do not see this as a 'red' bug?
[00:49] <phillw> balloons: if the instructions are in the release notes, can it marked as a pass?
[00:50] <balloons> phillw, if you have known workaround yes people mark as pass
[00:51] <phillw> wxl: ensure that it goes into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/PPC
[02:49] <nm_geo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1067566
[02:49] <xnox> nm_geo: known, work in progress.
[02:49] <nm_geo> k
[04:08] <wxl> ppc: one down, 17 more to go
[04:08] <wxl> time to go home
[04:59] <wxl> phillw: suggestion— update testcases for alternate to allow for offline install which will be particularly relevant for all those apple laptop users
[05:51] <wxl> why is lubuntu powerpc disabled?//
[05:51] <wxl> i'm over here trying to test!
[05:55] <Noskcaj> why is xubuntu amd64 disabled?
[05:57] <Noskcaj> wxl: can you test the netboot as i was really weird for me but i want a second opinion before i report a bug
[06:02] <wxl> Noskcaj: my goal is to get alternate ppc entirely taken care of and then maybe do ppc sevrer too
[06:02] <wxl> after that if i have time (unlikely) sure
[06:02] <Noskcaj> ok, just if you do
[06:08] <Noskcaj> wxl: are there any you would like me to do?
[06:09] <wxl> you wanna cut ubuntu server ppc in half?
[06:12] <wxl> well fooey guided resize is being funky
[06:19] <Noskcaj> wxl: i have no idea what your talking about, how to test server or if my g4 will run it
[06:21] <wxl> Noskcaj: i'm sure it will. i'm gonna test it on mine. it'as basically a gui-less system
[06:21] <wxl> so the install is pretty simple but the testcases involve installing a bunch of extra server software
[06:21] <Noskcaj> ok, so which case do i do, i will start downloading it
[06:21] <wxl> getting there :)
[06:22] <wxl> i'm on the last of my desktop installs
[06:22] <wxl> after which i'll do whatever it is you didn't get done
[06:22] <wxl> here we go http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26079/testcases
[06:24] <wxl> we should start with the regular installs
[06:24] <wxl> Install (Default), Install (Default + crypted LVM), Install (Default + LVM)
[06:25] <wxl> i got dibs on the no network connection
[06:25] <Noskcaj> ok, i will do the default and see how much time i have after that
[06:26] <Noskcaj> wxl: after today how do i vsync the iso?
[06:26] <wxl> you mean zsync?
[06:28] <Noskcaj> yes
[06:29] <wxl> technically it should be the same as throughout testing
[06:30] <wxl> well
[06:30] <wxl> by my time zone XD
[06:30] <wxl> it must already be the 17th, no?
[06:31] <wxl> you know what i've done before? had an x86 iso laying around and renamed it to to ppc and then run zsync on it and indeed it picks up which parts of it are the same. zsync is a super powerful tool
[06:32] <Noskcaj> wow
[06:32] <Noskcaj> its the 17th here too
[06:32] <Noskcaj> i have no expireience woth zsync at all, just testdrive
[06:32] <wxl> there's always a zsync link available, whether it's release or not
[06:35] <wxl> whoa i didn't know abotu testdrive
[06:35] <wxl> we both have something to learn from one another :)
[06:36] <Noskcaj> wxl: thanks, testdrive auto-syncs and either VMs or burns any daily build. i think its x86 only though
[06:37] <wxl> wxl: wouldn't matter; my experience and phillw can confirm this is that testing ppc in vm is a total waste of time unless we can figure out how to properly emulate the troublesome hardware, most notably the video cards
[06:38] <wxl> we would literally have to have several hundreds of commands to represent all the possible configurations that apple made
[06:38] <Noskcaj> ok
[06:38] <wxl> hahah i just pointed that message at myself XD
[06:39] <Noskcaj> i will pause my download and play COD. i will be back soon. *clap clap clap*
[06:40]  * wxl goes back to testing and watching dark shadows
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <wxl> mourn
[07:33] <wxl> interesting
[07:34] <wxl> now i have to start my ubuntu server all over
[07:34] <wxl> argh
[07:43] <Noskcaj> wxl: lolololollol
[07:43] <Noskcaj> i will do lubuntu
[07:43] <wxl> luckily i didn't have the cd already burnt and testing already done
[07:43] <wxl> so no big deal really but it does mean i'm probably not going to get much done on it tonight
[07:44] <wxl> i need to get up in like 5 hours to go to work
[07:44] <jibel> mvo, hey
[07:44] <jibel> dholbach, good morning
[07:44] <dholbach> salut jibel
[07:44] <wxl> the annoying thing is rebuilding and until it's done i can't zsync it
[07:44]  * wxl sighs
[07:45] <jibel> mvo, upgrade-testing clean-up yesterday has been a bit ... strong
[07:46] <jibel> mvo, the runner now fails with "ImportError: No module named DistUpgradeConfigParser"
[07:47] <wxl> come on, queuebot, hurry up
[07:47] <wxl> :)
[07:57] <wxl> ok officially can't do it
[08:04] <mvo> jibel: sorry for that, it needs python3-distupgrade now, but I guess that is not availalbe on precise yet?
[08:04] <mvo> jibel: so I guess I need to revert this, but I don't much like the duplication we have I whish bzr had something like "import file from a different bzr branch automatically"
[08:06] <jibel> mvo, ah ok, I'll see how I can fix it without a revert
[17:33] <wxl> NO!
[17:33] <wxl> not another update
[17:33] <wxl> argh
[17:33] <wxl> are we done updating yet??? ;)
[17:35] <balloons> wxl, I don't believe it affected you
[17:36] <wxl> well better safe than sorry, right
[17:36] <balloons> fortunately...
[17:36] <balloons> ;-)
[17:36] <wxl> i was just in the process of doing 20121017.1 on ppc server
[17:36] <wxl> seems like we have 20121017.2 now
[17:37] <wxl> so i'm going to do this guided resize lubuntu ppc alternate 20121017 again
[17:37] <wxl> hopefully that's not getting respun again ;)
[17:42] <wxl> i suspect i shouldn't fail this because it was 2gb off in its calculation of 50% of the drive during resize? XD
[17:43] <wxl> i.e. 50.97288676% ;)
[17:44] <wxl> well i'm gonna pass it
[17:44] <balloons> wxl, weird
[17:45] <balloons> are you sure it was off?
[17:45] <balloons> or calculating it differently
[17:45] <wxl> balloons: according to the drive size it reported, yes
[17:45] <balloons> 1024 / 1000 mb = 1 gb
[17:45] <wxl> so basically i just took reported size/2
[17:45] <wxl> anywho it may be because of ppc
[17:45] <wxl> with its apple bootstrap partition and whathaveyou
[17:46] <balloons> I would file the bug, unless you can figure out why
[17:46] <balloons> it passes ofc, but it can pass with a bug :-)
[17:46] <wxl> :)
[18:02] <wxl> balloons: the alternate installer is which package?
[19:03] <balloons> wxl, debian-installer
[19:03] <wxl> oh forgot to say i figured that out but thx balloons :)
[19:03] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1067841
[19:13] <Noskcaj> wxl: did you get around to testing the netboot?
[19:14] <wxl> Noskcaj: no, i wanted to redo lubuntu alternate
[19:14] <wxl> and then i want to do server
[19:14] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:15] <Noskcaj> i will try to do some of server now
[19:19] <wxl> phillw: i got you 2/3 passes on lubuntu ppc alternate last night plus with my entry today we have 3/4 passes today. lars had a fail due to that recusive thingy but i didn't have it-- that is a red bug, though. that being said, what else can i do to help?
[19:37] <ScottK> At this point, for a red bug, write a good release note.
[19:45] <balloons> wxl, Noskcaj the iscsci bug should be completely fixed now
[19:46] <wxl> balloons: for netboot?
[19:46] <balloons> no, server
[19:46] <wxl> oh
[19:46] <wxl> haven't got there yet
[19:46] <wxl> just got my cd burnt
[19:46] <wxl> literally just now :)
[20:02] <Noskcaj> wxl: never mind my internet is so slow, i cant do the server ppc
[20:04] <wxl> no worries Noskcaj
[20:04] <wxl> if you have the iso already you can do the no internet connection one
[20:06] <Noskcaj> i dont
[20:06] <wxl> Noskcaj: don't worry about it then. thanks for trying!
[20:07] <Noskcaj> i will maybe start for r-series
[20:21] <ScottK> psivaa: I see you did the Ubuntu amd64+mac tests.  Would it be possible for you to do at least some of Kubuntu amd64+mac too?  We've got no one with the right hardware.
[20:23] <ScottK> plars: ^^^ same question for you?
[20:28] <phillw> wxl: assuming your base installs go okay for server, I'll do the others tomorrow. I'm downloading the iso now, but it will take a couple of hours.
[20:28] <wxl> phillw: you mean server of course?
[20:29] <phillw> wxl: sorry, yes :)
[20:29] <wxl> i'm working on my 2nd test now :/
[20:29] <wxl> phillw: did you see my comments about alternate and whether or not we consider it passed?
[20:29] <phillw> wxl: yeas, did you see the reply from Scott?
[20:29] <wxl> phillw: yeah, ok. just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page XD
[20:30] <wxl> phillw: one other thing: remove all mention of grub from your ppc testcases. it's not relevant in light of yaboot, which just gets installed automagically
[20:31] <phillw> seem to be, in the mailing list, Julien is going to link to the new lubuntu/ppc-faq area as well.
[20:31] <wxl> saw that
[20:31] <phillw> wxl: can you email me that, else I'll forget. Ut won't be done in time for 12.10, but I will get onto it for 13.04.
[20:31] <phillw> s/Ut/It/
[20:32] <wxl> i would normally make a bug report but it sort of applies universally
[20:32] <wxl> so yeah, i'll email you
[20:32] <phillw> I'll create a new suite for PPC machines, as it will apply to any flavour running PPC.
[20:33] <wxl> email sent
[20:33] <phillw> this is really going down to the wire! I am praying there is no more respins needed... along with a lot of other people.
[20:34] <wxl> i was ready to do server last night and just as i sat down to do it it respun
[20:34] <wxl> so made a new disc this morning, got through one install, and it respun again
[20:34] <wxl> sheeeeeeeeeeesh ;)
[20:35] <phillw> yeah, my image was pre- respin, on the plus side, it's only going to take 10 minutes to zsync up (I forgot I set it running last night before I went to bed!).
[20:38] <phillw> I'm getting scared to ask lars to do AMD64-MAC again!
[20:38] <wxl> :)
[20:46] <phillw> wxl: are we not shipping a desktop ppc, just the alternate?
[20:47] <wxl> phillw: well i can't make it work on nvidia
[20:47] <wxl> if someone wants to pass it on radeon…
[20:47] <phillw> as long as one gets out, it'll be okay. I'll poke L-QA list.
[20:49] <wxl> anywho bbl
[20:49] <wxl> lunch calls
[20:50] <Noskcaj> wxl: i will try on my ibook, not sure if radeon or nvidia
[20:50] <Noskcaj> later
[20:56] <plars> ScottK: will try to take a look as soon as I can, I only have a single macbook but I can give it a few runs through at least
[20:56] <ScottK> plars: Thank you very much.
[20:57] <plars> ScottK: np :)
[21:03] <Noskcaj> Scottk: i could do some on my brother's imac but nothing could be changed(not sure if that helps)
[21:03] <Noskcaj> i.e. no persistence tests
[21:08] <ScottK> Right now we don't even have a live CD test, so that would be helpful, unless plars is already doing it.
[21:08] <ScottK> thanks Noskcaj
[21:09] <Noskcaj> Scottk: i wouldn't be able to do it until later and i'm not even sure my brother would let me, but i will try
[21:09] <psivaa> ScottK: i could do a few tests for kubuntu as well
[21:10] <patdk-wk> yay, iscsi works again :)
[21:17] <ScottK> psivaa: That would be great.  I think between you and plars, you're our only hope for releasing amd64+mac images.
[21:19] <ScottK> Noskcaj: I'd say check in with plars and psivaa when you can ask and see where we are.  Thanks.
[21:19] <Noskcaj> scottk: ok
[21:19] <Noskcaj> i dont think we can release the netboot ppc, i had problems with it but mybe that was just me
[21:20] <Noskcaj> can we get someone else to test it?
[21:30] <balloons> patdk-wk, excellent!
[21:31] <shadeslayer> plars: question, if you're doing amd64+mac testing, what hardware do you have?
[21:35] <plars> shadeslayer: just a macbook
[21:36] <shadeslayer> right, but which series?
[21:36] <plars> macbook pro, not sure how to tell too much more than that, they all look like a big metal etch-a-sketch to me
[21:36] <plars> :)
[21:36] <shadeslayer> I have a 8,2 and I can boot the standard amd64 ISO's just fine
[21:37] <plars> shadeslayer: I haven't actually tried the regular amd64 iso, since we have a +mac one I tend to use that for testing because it's the only way that image gets exercised.
[21:37] <shadeslayer> plars: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[21:37] <plars> shadeslayer: the one issue I really have is that I can't boot from usb with it
[21:37] <shadeslayer> I can solve that :P
[21:37] <plars> shadeslayer: 8,1 it seems
[21:38] <shadeslayer> but anywho, from what I was told a long time ago, those images are for some specific macbooks
[21:38] <shadeslayer> hm, should boot the standard iso just fine
[21:38] <shadeslayer> plars: want instructions on how to boot via USB?
[21:38] <shadeslayer> but it entails EFI booting
[21:38] <plars> shadeslayer: ok, good to know.  However my point isn't to test the macbook, but rather to test the image itself since it requires some mac hardware to test on
[21:38] <plars> shadeslayer: sure
[21:39] <shadeslayer> plars: but the ISO was meant for a different version of the macbook , so I'm not sure if testing on the 8 series even matters
[21:40] <shadeslayer> as in, it'll boot fine, but the real test will be against hardware that can't boot the standard ISO
[21:40] <shadeslayer> let me write down instructions for efi booting + usb somewhere
[21:40] <shadeslayer> sec
[21:41] <plars> I see
[21:41] <plars> So I hadn't actually tried it before, but yeah it seems this image will actually boot on non-mac hardware
[21:41] <plars> or even in a vm
[21:43] <balloons> I thought jibel used to use an older macbook 5 or 6 to test this?
[21:48] <plars> balloons: this is what he sent me
[21:48] <plars> but it is somewhat useful to be able to test it in a vm
[21:48] <balloons> gotcha
[21:49] <plars> as shadeslayer says, it won't really test that it works on the hardware that it *has* to work on, but it will at least sanity test the image itself
[21:58] <silverarrow> hi
[21:58] <balloons> hey silverarrow
[22:00] <silverarrow> so desktop ppc needs attention but might not get it?
[22:00] <shadeslayer> plars: http://paste.kde.org/572918/
[22:01] <shadeslayer> you'll probably have to hold down the option key
[22:01] <shadeslayer> and more examples for grub.cfg can be found here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples
[22:02] <shadeslayer> I'm around for another hour if you still need help :)
[22:04] <phillw> silverarrow: desktop ppc seems unhappy with nVidia, wxl has asked if someone with Radeon can give it a try.
[22:05] <phillw> silverarrow: wxl should be shortly, I'm getting an early night, I've got about 12 test cases to do tomorrow!
[22:05] <phillw> *should be back*
[22:06] <silverarrow> yeah, I am downloading now
[22:07] <silverarrow> I had hickups with networks last night, but better now
[22:07] <silverarrow> and I can pick up my HP tomorrow !!
[22:07] <silverarrow> repair is finished
[22:08] <silverarrow> apparently they replaced the lcd and updated BIOS
[22:10] <wxl> what up?
[22:17] <silverarrow> where is the guy who managed to have b43 drivers and installer on usb?
[22:18]  * wxl shrugs
[22:18] <silverarrow> he must have done something clever
[22:18] <wxl> you need to have firmware-b43-installer, the firmware that it downloads, and b43-fwcutter
[22:19] <silverarrow> he mentioned it had to be "persistent"
[22:19] <silverarrow> iso download went quickly tonight
[22:20] <wxl> i'm working on server installs
[22:49] <ScottK> psivaa and plars: Thank you again for the Kubuntu amd64+mac testing.
[22:50] <plars> ScottK: glad to help :)
[22:50] <psivaa> ScottK: any time :)
[22:50] <ScottK> Lubuntu looks like they could use some help to, FWIW.
[22:50] <plars> ScottK: yeah, I need to do some stuff at home, but I saw.  I'll probably try to give those a run later this evening
[23:20] <hggdh> ScottK: BTW, I am on kubuntu armhf-omap4
[23:21] <hggdh> ah, no need, someone already got it
[23:21]  * hggdh looks for another target
[23:51] <ScottK> hggdh: Thanks.
[23:51] <ScottK> Kubuntu is all done now.  Thanks everyone.