| rick_h_ | jcastro_: ping | 00:26 |
|---|---|---|
| jcastro_ | rick_h_: pong | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro_: pm | 00:51 |
| snap-l | Man, fuck flash | 01:09 |
| brousch | In the neck | 01:09 |
| brousch | Where did they find a sea cow to moderate? | 01:11 |
| brousch | Wow, totally wrong channel | 01:12 |
| rick_h_ | ummm...yea | 01:13 |
| snap-l | brousch: Ouch | 01:14 |
| brousch | Yeah, I am a scrub | 01:15 |
| brousch | I will blame the Dragon's Milk | 01:16 |
| Blazeix | it does not seem wise for Romney to be pushing oil and coal. | 01:18 |
| snap-l | This is a sideshow | 01:20 |
| snap-l | Interrupting cow | 01:20 |
| snap-l | Obama just needs to give Romney enough rope to hang himself | 01:21 |
| Blazeix | seriously. moderator needs a mute button. | 01:24 |
| snap-l | Wow, loaded question | 01:36 |
| snap-l | Wow. | 01:41 |
| snap-l | Romney sounds condescending on this women in the workforce issue | 01:42 |
| Blazeix | "you know what this cabinet needs? some babes" | 01:42 |
| snap-l | I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that | 01:42 |
| snap-l | And by glad, I mean that's pathetic. | 01:42 |
| Blazeix | ... "they're going to be so anxious for workers they're going to be happy to hire women" | 01:43 |
| Blazeix | that could have been better phrased, perhaps. | 01:43 |
| snap-l | Damn, that's a heavy question | 01:46 |
| snap-l | Tapdance | 01:49 |
| Blazeix | hah, i have the exact opposite comments. | 01:50 |
| Blazeix | weak fluffy question, and romney actually answered it | 01:50 |
| Blazeix | ...maybe our streams aren't synched :) | 01:50 |
| snap-l | No, he did answer it, but that was a tapdance | 01:50 |
| snap-l | It was a tough question | 01:51 |
| snap-l | But he executed | 01:51 |
| rick_h_droid | wahoo he scores! | 01:52 |
| rick_h_droid | oh wait... wrong event | 01:52 |
| snap-l | Hah | 01:52 |
| rick_h_droid | :-p | 01:52 |
| Blazeix | oh god, now that was an even weaker question | 01:52 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Yeah, but easy to whiff | 01:53 |
| snap-l | You were born abroad. That doesn't make you a fucking immigrant. | 02:00 |
| rick_h_ | upvotes please http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4662528 | 02:10 |
| snap-l | No account, unfortunately. | 02:10 |
| rick_h_ | boooo | 02:10 |
| Blazeix | voted | 02:11 |
| snap-l | Why hasn't Obama solved the entire middle east problem | 02:15 |
| brousch | Yeah, I mean if anyone can solve it, it would be a Muslim like Obama | 02:15 |
| snap-l | hah | 02:15 |
| snap-l | And he did a mid-east tour to let folks know we weren't going to turn the whole damn region into glass | 02:16 |
| Blazeix | ok, i like this moderator | 02:17 |
| Blazeix | is the moderator often armed with transcripts of speeches? that should be a thing, if not. | 02:18 |
| snap-l | I think she has people on staff to handle this | 02:18 |
| snap-l | I'd be surprised if she isn't wired. | 02:19 |
| snap-l | COol, Obama can cure people too | 02:19 |
| brousch | The Obamessiah | 02:21 |
| snap-l | BAM! | 02:24 |
| Blazeix | yikes, romney is losing to both Obama AND the moderator | 02:24 |
| snap-l | I wish these questions didn't sound like letters to the editor / Santa | 02:27 |
| Blazeix | i think they populated the audience with a bunch of librarians | 02:28 |
| snap-l | hah | 02:28 |
| Blazeix | and that guy from the brain trust or whatever | 02:28 |
| snap-l | "Erm, I'd like to know your opinion on, erm, the DC comics reboot, and if you think the transition of The Oracle back to Barbara Gordon / Batgirl disempowers disabled folk" | 02:29 |
| Blazeix | snap-l++ | 02:30 |
| brousch | snap-l: I have no idea what you're talking about | 02:30 |
| snap-l | brousch: Neither do I. :) | 02:32 |
| snap-l | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Gordon | 02:32 |
| snap-l | Oh fuck | 02:33 |
| brousch | TL;DR | 02:34 |
| snap-l | brousch: Your loss | 02:35 |
| brousch | Ignorance is bliss | 02:35 |
| snap-l | I'm going to ask a tough question. DO you enjoy top or bottom? | 02:36 |
| snap-l | Please tell us something we didn't know. | 02:36 |
| brousch | Stupid question | 02:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, this is pretty silly. | 02:37 |
| snap-l | I'll get everyone up | 02:38 |
| snap-l | God, I want to punch this band's website. | 04:02 |
| snap-l | http://www.moskeo.com/ | 04:03 |
| === lotia-away is now known as lotia | ||
| === lotia is now known as lotia-away | ||
| rick_h_ | kind of cool, street view of a DC http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=avP5d16wEp0 | 12:07 |
| brousch | Washington DC? | 12:07 |
| brousch | That's a lot of servers | 12:08 |
| rick_h_ | from http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/10/ff-inside-google-data-center/all/ | 12:21 |
| snap-l | Well that was fun | 12:28 |
| snap-l | UPS shut down hard, with just a single tone | 12:28 |
| brousch | heh | 12:29 |
| snap-l | I'm sure it protected me from something ,but I'm not sure what. | 12:29 |
| brousch | Or the battery is going bad | 12:30 |
| snap-l | possible | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | ah USPS, my old friend https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9400110200881515599448 | 12:48 |
| snap-l | OK, just had my machine suspend for no reason | 12:50 |
| brousch | USPS tracking is useless | 12:50 |
| snap-l | I think my UPS is acting up | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | I just love that it said it would be delivered the 15th | 12:50 |
| snap-l | wonder if it's related to a four-legged friend of mine. | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | and still says it | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: ooh, kitty chewed cords are fun | 12:51 |
| brad__ | anyone else in here listen to Wdet? | 13:50 |
| snap-l | On occasion | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | nope | 13:50 |
| brad__ | any idea what happened to marketplace at 6pm ? | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | only radio is 97.1 for my sports fix otherwise it's streaming/podcasts/etc | 13:50 |
| snap-l | brad__: No idea. They seem to have nixed it | 13:50 |
| snap-l | I've been listening to it on SiriusXM until my subscription runs out | 13:51 |
| === brad__ is now known as nullspace | ||
| snap-l | nullspace: I noticed that as well. I know 91.7 is still playing it, but at 6:30pm | 13:52 |
| nullspace | that sucks, so I get to hear all thing considered repeat the news twice instead of hearing about economic news, lame | 13:52 |
| snap-l | But frankly it got me to subscribe back to the podcast feed. | 13:52 |
| snap-l | WDET's been really schitzo re: their schedule | 13:52 |
| snap-l | Ever since they made the big move to pull Ed Love from weekdays, that really soured me on the station | 13:53 |
| nullspace | I have a script to pull and splice news articles and the mornign report podcast in the morning | 13:54 |
| snap-l | from the podcast feed? | 13:59 |
| jrwren | that google data center isn't nearly as awesome as I would have hoped. | 14:17 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It's only because Google doesn't want to show you their hovercars | 14:18 |
| snap-l | self-driving | 14:18 |
| snap-l | That's for a future Google-IO | 14:18 |
| jrwren | i agree. | 14:18 |
| jrwren | the very power efficient data centers are trade secret. the big guys are keeping it to themselves | 14:19 |
| snap-l | I think there's some benefit to sharing notes on this, though | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea, the end of the article brings it all to light | 14:20 |
| snap-l | You don't have to show everything | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | now that they've got the next gen DC going up they can show off last gen | 14:20 |
| rick_h_ | "here, let's open source win95" | 14:20 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: ++ | 14:20 |
| * rick_h_ needs to be medicated today | 14:22 | |
| rick_h_ | come on CHC...is it quitting time yet? | 14:22 |
| jrwren | the things in this wired article are things which were known publicly 10 yrs ago. | 14:25 |
| jrwren | use water, keep the server room warmer, use batteries instead of traditional ups. | 14:25 |
| rick_h_ | right | 14:25 |
| rick_h_ | but they got to see it, they street viewed the DC | 14:26 |
| rick_h_ | there was general info, but not pics | 14:26 |
| rick_h_ | "pics or it didn't happen" | 14:26 |
| jrwren | yup | 14:26 |
| jrwren | i see. | 14:26 |
| snap-l | Does anyone know of a good comparison between Windows CPU and Linux CPU scheduling that I can pass along to someone | 14:26 |
| jrwren | but i wonder if they have inovated even more. | 14:26 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Three guesses why. ;) | 14:26 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, the temp stuff has been known for a while | 14:26 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: which linux scheduler, there are numerous ones. | 14:27 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: oh you've got to be kidding me...scheduler? FIX THE FING CODE!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:27 |
| jrwren | maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completely_Fair_Scheduler ? | 14:27 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Just a broad overview | 14:27 |
| rick_h_ | hulk rick says "SCHEDULER NO FIX BROKEN A$$ CODE" | 14:27 |
| jrwren | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduling_%28computing%29 then? compare section 3.1 to 3.4.3 | 14:27 |
| devinheitmueller | There are a variety of different scheduling algorithms under Linux. That said, whatever the problem is is almost certainly *not* the scheduler. | 14:28 |
| rick_h_ | devinheitmueller: yea, you'd have to know/see this crap if it's what I think it is | 14:28 |
| jrwren | no no, snap-l just wants to point something out to a windows person | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | pile of crap on top of crap on top of crap | 14:29 |
| devinheitmueller | (and if the person doesn't know how the Linux scheduler works compared to Windows, he/she is certainly not qualified to blame the scheduler) | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | no, clearly they've maxed out the 64GB of ram windows machine and hoping a 64GB linux machine will run faster | 14:29 |
| jrwren | i don't think anyone is blaming the scheduler | 14:29 |
| snap-l | Well, the problem is that OpenSSH on the Windows machine is becoming unresponsive | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | oh I bet someone is...living in NC | 14:29 |
| jrwren | the first problem is openssh on windows. | 14:30 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:30 |
| snap-l | Previously one core was dedicated (how, I'm not sure) to openssh | 14:30 |
| snap-l | and now even that is not enough | 14:30 |
| devinheitmueller | Does Windows even support dedicated CPU affinity? | 14:30 |
| jrwren | zomg, processor affinity on a process? | 14:30 |
| jrwren | devinheitmueller: fuck yes it does. | 14:30 |
| devinheitmueller | Well, I know you can do a per-process affinity, but I didn't realize you could dedicate a processor exclusively to a single process. | 14:31 |
| snap-l | devinheitmueller: I know as much about Windows scheduling as a 8 year old boy knows about girls | 14:31 |
| snap-l | they exist, and they're icky. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | watch a few russinovich presentations if you want to learn about NT Kernel stuff like this. | 14:31 |
| devinheitmueller | Lord. If you're dedicating an entire CPU to openssh, you're doing somethign wrong. | 14:32 |
| devinheitmueller | I've actually done NT kernel development, and have been reading sysinternals since the early 2000's. | 14:32 |
| jrwren | by CPU you mean core, right? so if it is a 64core server, only 1 core isn't so bad to dedicate. | 14:32 |
| jrwren | but you certainly DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS | 14:32 |
| snap-l | I think it's cores, yes | 14:32 |
| snap-l | It's an Amazon EC2 instance | 14:32 |
| snap-l | so it's virtual, whatever it's using | 14:32 |
| jrwren | ec2 instance, there is your second problem :) | 14:33 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I think that's problem #5, frankly. | 14:33 |
| devinheitmueller | Is openssh *completely* unresponsive? Or is responsiveness just poor? | 14:33 |
| snap-l | devinheitmueller: It's not responding to outside requests. | 14:33 |
| rick_h_ | all he probably knows is that he can't init a new ssh connection | 14:33 |
| devinheitmueller | At all? Or just slowly? | 14:33 |
| snap-l | I tried it yesterday and was unable to get it to ack anything | 14:33 |
| devinheitmueller | Firewall problem? | 14:34 |
| snap-l | devinheitmueller: Unlikely | 14:34 |
| devinheitmueller | Well, it's EC2, so it's not unheard of. | 14:34 |
| snap-l | unless the windows firewall somehow gets triggered | 14:34 |
| rick_h_ | ec2 has auto firewall based on security setup | 14:34 |
| devinheitmueller | If you get onto the box, do you see OpenSSH listening on the port via netstat? | 14:34 |
| devinheitmueller | Also, if you tcpdump, do you see the TCP handshake completing? | 14:35 |
| snap-l | devinheitmueller: will pass along, but I have no direct access to this machine | 14:35 |
| snap-l | just passing along postulations | 14:35 |
| devinheitmueller | Yeah, jumping to the notion that it's a scheduler problem seems like a real stretch. Much more likely to be some sort of networking problem. | 14:35 |
| snap-l | frankly, this would be on a Linux machine | 14:35 |
| snap-l | if it were my baliwick | 14:36 |
| brousch | This is pretty cool. An Android app with Python embedded in the APK, and a full screen gui https://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/gyrotest-PythonAPK.apk | 15:00 |
| brousch | I think all of the pieces I need are there | 15:01 |
| snap-l | Release party information: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/2049/detail/ | 16:40 |
| snap-l | Hopefully this will work out for most folks. | 16:41 |
| * snap-l is hoping to delegate the release party planning to someone else in the near future. | 16:43 | |
| snap-l | If you're planning on attending (even if you're undecided) please RSVP. | 16:46 |
| snap-l | Want to have an accurate count if possible. | 16:46 |
| brousch | snap-l: You need to leverage your Canonical employee friends ;) | 17:24 |
| jcastro_ | and by friends he means rick | 17:35 |
| snap-l | jcastro_: We've been leveraging on rick_h_ | 17:36 |
| snap-l | He was like a proto-jcastro | 17:36 |
| snap-l | But now that the real thing is back in Michigan... ;) | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | what are we using me for? | 17:37 |
| jcastro_ | I see what you did there | 17:40 |
| jcastro_ | well, I will be close to the Ypsi brewery | 17:40 |
| jcastro_ | finally. Good to see openiduser626 join us. | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | grrr this sim/att crap is annoying as $#@$@# | 17:43 |
| snap-l | jcastro_: You're also close to the Ypsi library | 17:45 |
| snap-l | where they have a fireplace. | 17:45 |
| snap-l | Fortunately nowhere near Farenheit 451 | 17:45 |
| greg-g | ba dum ching | 17:47 |
| brousch | snap-l: Was your release party tweet supposed to have a link? | 17:48 |
| snap-l | brousch: It's from identi.ca | 17:48 |
| snap-l | so no, no link | 17:48 |
| greg-g | brousch: http://identi.ca/event/10bd74ea-e454-430f-883e-e24364193567!!!!! | 17:51 |
| snap-l | Just sent another one with the link | 17:51 |
| greg-g | er | 17:51 |
| greg-g | brousch: http://identi.ca/event/10bd74ea-e454-430f-883e-e24364193567 !!!!! | 17:51 |
| brousch | ah | 17:52 |
| lmorchard | I'm still not sure why I'm "openiduser626" or how to fix that | 18:38 |
| brousch | you look like lmorchard to me | 18:38 |
| * waldo323_ registered | 18:38 | |
| lmorchard | On here I don't, or at least not to me: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/2049/detail/ | 18:39 |
| lmorchard | Though launchpad.net thinks I'm "lmorchard" | 18:39 |
| brousch | Pidgin says you're lmorchard | 18:39 |
| lmorchard | Yeah, but I'm talking about that event page, like jcastro_ mentioned | 18:40 |
| * rick_h_ is going to bomb att soon | 18:40 | |
| brousch | Ah, now I see | 18:40 |
| lmorchard | Far as I can tell, there's no way for me to affect that name | 18:40 |
| === lotia-away is now known as lotia | ||
| snap-l | lmorchard: Do you have your full name set in your launchpad profile | 19:05 |
| lmorchard | As far as I can tell, yeah: https://launchpad.net/~lmorchard | 19:05 |
| snap-l | Yeah, not seeing anything off | 19:05 |
| snap-l | https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+filebug | 19:06 |
| snap-l | Post the link of your bug in here, and we'll see it gets attention | 19:06 |
| lmorchard | I think there might be existing bugs, my fuzzy memory tells me | 19:11 |
| lmorchard | I seem to remember this being an issue for me when I first registered a year ago :) | 19:11 |
| rick_h_ | bwuhahaha, ATT support person that says it won't work...it works boom! | 19:17 |
| snap-l | https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+bug/574049 <- lmorchard, please say this bug affects you. | 19:19 |
| snap-l | There's a link at the top that should ask if it affects you. | 19:19 |
| lmorchard | It sounds like it affects me, but I did in fact login from launchpad.net | 19:19 |
| * lmorchard clicks the link | 19:20 | |
| snap-l | Danke | 19:21 |
| brousch | snap-l: I'm setting up a west MI event now | 19:27 |
| snap-l | brousch: Awesome! | 19:34 |
| snap-l | Do you have edit perms to add it to the calendar? | 19:34 |
| brousch | I can add it to the events | 19:34 |
| brousch | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/2051/detail/ | 19:35 |
| jjesse | did ubuntu release while I was out and about today? | 19:38 |
| brousch | I don't think so | 19:40 |
| jjesse | just saw some weird announcements on my feed | 19:40 |
| brousch | snap-l: I'll advertise it tomorrow | 19:49 |
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