| Cheri703 | gilbert: if you want to collaborate on responses to the re-approval stuff, let me know | 01:55 |
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| thafreak | Morning Ohio | 13:04 |
| paultag | holla | 14:15 |
| yano | good morning | 14:28 |
| yano | anyone have any specific websites / RSS feeds they use to catch up on Ohio news? | 14:28 |
| paultag | not here, sadly, I used to read the plain dealer every morning | 14:30 |
| paultag | a rather low-tech solution | 14:30 |
| yano | ah, i'm looking for more sources for ##ohio-news, so far it's only central ohio newspapers and radio/tv stations that do news/politics | 14:32 |
| paultag | Hahahahaha -- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14232970 | 14:32 |
| paultag | yano: oh word, cool | 14:32 |
| yano | paultag: lol | 14:33 |
| yano | i'm open to any suggestions if anyone has any for local news that have RSS feeds | 14:36 |
| Cheri703 | yano: you can do a google news search for ohio? I think you can set up rss or at least alerts. not 100% sure | 14:39 |
| yano | Well I'm not really looking for 'alerts' but feeds I can feed into an IRC bot. | 14:39 |
| paultag | web scrapers :> | 14:41 |
| yano | hehe | 14:41 |
| canthus13 | ...I just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why my wife's rc.lua wouldn't load. I was editing it from an ssh session on my laptop... on my user accont on her laptop. :/ | 14:44 |
| paultag | :( | 14:47 |
| canthus13 | paultag: quite the d'oh moment. | 14:49 |
| paultag | yah, totally | 14:50 |
| paultag | canthus13: so, I think I'm going to tweak my hairycandy setup to better configure awesome | 14:50 |
| paultag | canthus13: I'm going to try something crazy here -- xfce + awesome | 14:50 |
| canthus13 | Hmm... | 14:50 |
| paultag | after using awesome for about 6 months, I see where it's good and where it sucks | 14:51 |
| paultag | I think this can work. | 14:51 |
| canthus13 | cool. | 14:51 |
| paultag | so I might need a tester, if you're up for it | 14:51 |
| paultag | I just need to, well, do it | 14:51 |
| yano | awesome is awesome! | 14:51 |
| canthus13 | I might... I'm kinda annoyed with the gnome-settings-daemon's tendency to eat your mouse clicks. | 14:51 |
| paultag | awesome is okish :) | 14:51 |
| paultag | it's just not bad | 14:52 |
| paultag | it needs a lot of work, though | 14:52 |
| canthus13 | but yeah, I'll test it. | 14:55 |
| paultag | there are some concerns | 14:55 |
| paultag | but yep | 14:55 |
| paultag | canthus13: but yah, the notifications are much much better with xfce's handling | 14:57 |
| paultag | and the toolbar can actually work pretty darn well with the awesomewm bar | 14:57 |
| * canthus13 nods. | 14:57 | |
| * canthus13 isn't fond of toolbars. | 14:58 | |
| paultag | I didn't think I was either | 14:58 |
| canthus13 | laptop screens aren't really made for them. | 14:58 |
| canthus13 | paultag: Do you know of a terminal that doesn't eat long links in awesome? gnome-terminal clips anything that wraps around. Doesn't do that in gnome3. :/ | 14:59 |
| paultag | canthus13: I use gnome-terminal and it doesn't clip here | 14:59 |
| canthus13 | odd. | 14:59 |
| paultag | jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ← came out ok, I can read this a few screens "over" | 15:00 |
| canthus13 | mebbe it's gnome-terminal + ssh + screen + irssi. | 15:00 |
| paultag | do you have another session open screen open? | 15:00 |
| paultag | erm | 15:01 |
| paultag | that came out wrong | 15:01 |
| paultag | one sec | 15:01 |
| canthus13 | like.. this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-Digital-Model-PDP-11-03-L-Vintage-Computer-/370664514436?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item564d53a384 | 15:01 |
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| gilbert | Cheri703: if you have anything to say, please feel free to contribute it to the bug report | 20:24 |
| paultag | hey gilbert | 20:24 |
| Cheri703 | k | 20:24 |
| gilbert | Cheri703: i'm busy, so i'm trying to get to things fast enough, but we only have till the 22nd to address concerns | 20:24 |
| paultag | gilbert: been watching this flamefest unfold, thanks a lot for that :) | 20:24 |
| paultag | gilbert: if you respond, the LC usually cuts slack. | 20:24 |
| paultag | just keep active and you'll be fine | 20:24 |
| gilbert | paultag: whatz up1 | 20:25 |
| gilbert | ! | 20:25 |
| paultag | gilbert: nada! howabout you? How's Ohio? | 20:25 |
| gilbert | paultag: flamefest? | 20:25 |
| paultag | gilbert: debs on upload | 20:25 |
| gilbert | paultag: ah yes, course | 20:25 |
| gilbert | paultag: i'm always stirring up trouble | 20:25 |
| paultag | sure are | 20:25 |
| gilbert | :/ | 20:25 |
| paultag | (in a good way!) | 20:25 |
| gilbert | yaya, i wouldn't have it any other way | 20:26 |
| paultag | wine's in good shape, and now we might actually get to strip debs that come from DDs machines | 20:26 |
| gilbert | not a fan of maintaining status quos | 20:26 |
| paultag | I'm tired of seeing odd usernames in my apps | 20:26 |
| paultag | yah totally | 20:26 |
| paultag | gilbert: oh man, I'm about to kick up another little bucket of hell myself, soon | 20:27 |
| gilbert | paultag: nice | 20:27 |
| paultag | gilbert: I (in secret) rewrote dput to not, well, suck | 20:27 |
| gilbert | paultag: uh oh, that does sound like trouble | 20:28 |
| gilbert | paultag: r u going to call it dput? | 20:28 |
| paultag | dput-ng, naturally | 20:28 |
| gilbert | :) | 20:28 |
| paultag | but I'm in the middle of squashing namespace | 20:28 |
| paultag | gilbert: but -- full documentation, 100% backwards compatable, full tests, correct implementations | 20:28 |
| paultag | and I'm going through the BTS, and fixing all the open bugs on dput-old | 20:28 |
| paultag | so I can comment there "Hey, look, dput-ng does this already" | 20:29 |
| paultag | gilbert: secret project pages - http://dput.rtfd.org/ - http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/dputng.git - http://people.debian.org/~paultag/dput-ng/ -- arno and I did it in a few weeks (daemonkeeper) -- feel free to screw around with it and let me know where you find issues, I've dput stuff to the archive with it already | 20:29 |
| paultag | gilbert: hell, I got it to *tweet* after an upload - https://twitter.com/paultag/status/257981606139133954 | 20:30 |
| paultag | dcut's incomplete, though | 20:30 |
| paultag | so be careful if you decide to try it out on your primary devel system | 20:30 |
| gilbert | haha, nice! | 20:31 |
| gilbert | seems pretty cool, i'll mess around with it a bit | 20:34 |
| paultag | gilbert: cheers -- my big seller right now is that it checks changelog suite matches changes distribution | 20:35 |
| paultag | gilbert: e.g. if you sbuild with -c unstable for an exp package, it'll target unstable and get uploaded there | 20:35 |
| paultag | unless you do -c unstable -d experimental | 20:35 |
| paultag | so this checks for that sanity OTB (as well as a few other things) | 20:35 |
| gilbert | interesting | 20:35 |
| paultag | It's a bit rough right now, but in the end, it'll be like dput, but better. | 20:35 |
| gilbert | i'll complain loudly when it doesn't work right ;) | 20:36 |
| paultag | please! :) | 20:36 |
| paultag | gilbert: we have a secret channel (#torabora on oftc) if you need to leave something for us to see, but I'm not around (or daemonkeeper) | 20:36 |
| dzho | I'm having trouble parsing: > Changes which make extending dput downstream will likely be accepted in dput main. | 20:36 |
| paultag | dzho: yah, it's poorly written | 20:37 |
| dzho | it makes sense s/which make// | 20:37 |
| dzho | or something | 20:37 |
| paultag | dzho: basically, I want to make Ubuntu'ers feel free to contribute Ubuntu checkers to dput's main source tree | 20:37 |
| paultag | dzho: it needs a rewrite, half of this was on the train back after a night of drinking | 20:37 |
| dzho | no worries here, just trying to be constructive | 20:37 |
| paultag | please continue! | 20:38 |
| dzho | heh | 20:38 |
| paultag | I'm happy you pointed it out :) | 20:38 |
| paultag | just explaining why | 20:38 |
| gilbert | paultag: ur quite the fan of inebriated coding ;{ | 20:38 |
| dzho | a shocking proponent of the Balmer Peak | 20:38 |
| paultag | gilbert: yah, sadly :) | 20:39 |
| paultag | well, most of this is sober code | 20:39 |
| paultag | the docs -- totally smashed. | 20:39 |
| paultag | I had to be careful, a lot of people are going to use this (hopefully) | 20:39 |
| paultag | I need to fix some conf-file stuff | 20:41 |
| paultag | it's a HUGE pref dent | 20:41 |
| paultag | I'm going to fix it tonight, but right now, it's ULTRA slow for big operations (like dput -H) | 20:41 |
| paultag | I made a bad implementation decision that I'm going to gut tonight | 20:41 |
| gilbert | ah | 20:42 |
| gilbert | my new kitty really likes to sit in front of my screen and bat at the mouse pointer :/ | 20:46 |
| paultag | hahaha, awwww | 20:46 |
| gilbert | he's pretty crazy | 20:46 |
| gilbert | makes it kind of hard to be productive tho :( | 20:47 |
| paultag | productivity is overrated | 20:48 |
| gilbert | oracle is insane. vbox and about 20 jdk issues :( | 20:49 |
| gilbert | security issues | 20:49 |
| paultag | ugh | 20:49 |
| paultag | typical | 20:49 |
| gilbert | productivity is needed to fix rc bugs | 20:49 |
| paultag | openjdk or sun jdk in stable? | 20:50 |
| gilbert | and 2 new ones are those oracle sec issues :( | 20:50 |
| gilbert | openjdk | 20:50 |
| paultag | bleh | 20:50 |
| paultag | wait, wait, what? | 20:51 |
| paultag | oracle maintains openjdk? | 20:51 |
| canthus13 | If they do, they're prolly trying to figure out how to either monetize it or kill it. | 20:51 |
| paultag | holy shit | 20:52 |
| paultag | they do, that's awesome | 20:52 |
| gilbert | well, i guess not, but pretty much all of the oracle jdk issues affect openjdk | 20:52 |
| paultag | gilbert: it's the java SE 7 ref impl | 20:52 |
| paultag | http://openjdk.java.net/ ← copyright oracle | 20:52 |
| paultag | http://openjdk.java.net/faq/ ← more corp. copy | 20:53 |
| gilbert | ah, ur right | 20:53 |
| paultag | this is amazing, I'm actually not pissed | 20:53 |
| paultag | I mean, it sucks that we have to pick up after them | 20:53 |
| paultag | but still, wow | 20:53 |
| paultag | I don't feel so bad about ditching the old java nonfree packages | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | Hah, some sites still need oracle java. :P | 20:54 |
| paultag | openjdk is oracle java | 20:55 |
| paultag | (my new comeback) | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | Not according to some Finnish banks. | 20:55 |
| paultag | they should be corrected | 20:55 |
| gilbert | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkMm8_U6rok | 20:56 |
| gilbert | (if anyone likes the walking dead) | 20:57 |
| paultag | totes watching now | 20:57 |
| gilbert | oh, and this is very nice of oracle: http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/oracle-leaves-fix-java-se-zero-day-until-february-patch-update-101712 | 20:58 |
| paultag | haha, this is great | 20:58 |
| paultag | wait | 20:59 |
| gilbert | also Jon and I at olf (in background): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6pVA_CkqPw | 20:59 |
| paultag | if they're tapdancing | 20:59 |
| paultag | in sneakers | 20:59 |
| paultag | why does it make tapey noises | 20:59 |
| paultag | gilbert: \o/ (watching now) | 20:59 |
| gilbert | they're zombies dude! they're feet are just bone | 20:59 |
| paultag | truf | 20:59 |
| gilbert | *their* | 20:59 |
| jrgifford | i've started to reconsider the whole jruby thing... it's nice, but oracle is so freakin' lame. | 20:59 |
| * gilbert sometimes forgets correct grammar | 20:59 | |
| paultag | jrgifford: so, for python anyway | 21:00 |
| paultag | jrgifford: jython features some big improvements from cpython | 21:00 |
| paultag | and java also pre-allocates a lot of memeory, which is a good thing for things like search engines | 21:00 |
| paultag | it's memory management is also better, less overhead then python | 21:01 |
| paultag | not to mention real threading | 21:01 |
| paultag | I assume some of this holds for ruby too | 21:01 |
| paultag | gilbert: hey loo, there's you! | 21:01 |
| gilbert | yep | 21:01 |
| jrgifford | paultag: jruby is amazing for the memory management stuff | 21:01 |
| gilbert | me feeling awkward being on camera | 21:02 |
| jrgifford | i really wanted to run jruby in production for #railsrumble, but unfortunately we ran out of time to figure out how to deploy it. | 21:02 |
| paultag | gilbert: hahaha, awww | 21:02 |
| paultag | jrgifford: mmm. | 21:02 |
| paultag | self-hosting ftw | 21:03 |
| gilbert | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyq-zyE-wU | 21:07 |
| paultag | haha, oh apple maps | 21:08 |
| gilbert | oh apple anything :( | 21:08 |
| paultag | new favorate work - gubernator | 21:15 |
| paultag | word* | 21:15 |
| paultag | (from, 1500s or so) | 21:16 |
| paultag | gilbert: from dhclient here (ubuntu) - PATH=/build/buildd/isc-dhcp-4.1.ESV-R4/debian/tmp/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin | 21:39 |
| paultag | (but again, we don't know in what context that is used) | 21:39 |
| gilbert | its used as the search path for scripts that dhclient may call, which run as root | 23:24 |
| gilbert | so, ubuntu security team says its not an issue since user's don't have a /build dir | 23:25 |
| gilbert | debian security is not blazeh | 23:26 |
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