| FloatingGoat_ | how do i get wifi to work with the realtime kernel | 13:55 |
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| ailo-w | FloatingGoat_: Realtime kernel? | 13:55 |
| ailo-w | Which one? | 13:55 |
| FloatingGoat_ | lemme see | 13:55 |
| ailo-w | FloatingGoat_: We don't have one in the repo | 13:56 |
| FloatingGoat_ | what kernel do you have? | 13:56 |
| ailo-w | linux-generic and linux-lowlatency | 13:56 |
| ailo-w | linux-lowlatency is the default Ubuntu Studio kernel | 13:56 |
| ailo-w | It's not realtime | 13:57 |
| ailo-w | It's basically a -generic kernel, with enhanced preempt configuration | 13:57 |
| FloatingGoat_ | okay this might just solve my problem | 13:57 |
| ailo-w | About as good as a -realtime kernel, what low latency is concerned. How good, has not really been measured what I know | 13:57 |
| ailo-w | I recommend the -lowlatency kernel, just for the fact that it has full Ubuntu support, and will work with anything you use -generic for | 13:58 |
| FloatingGoat_ | yeah i was just trying to get the kernel i used in ubuntu studio | 13:58 |
| FloatingGoat_ | since im not using it anymore | 13:58 |
| FloatingGoat_ | i installed the realtime kernel | 13:58 |
| ailo-w | I assume you added a PPA for the realtime kernel? | 13:59 |
| FloatingGoat_ | yeah kxstudio | 13:59 |
| FloatingGoat_ | im going to try it out now | 13:59 |
| FloatingGoat_ | ill be right back | 13:59 |
| ailo-w | FloatingGoat_: I'd go and ask on #kxstudio about that | 13:59 |
| ailo-w | Gotta go. good luck | 13:59 |
| Kyle__ | I'm having trouble with xfsettingsd crashing in my ubuntu-studio image. It's most often dying after keyboard input (of any kind), with "segfault at 14 ip <some address> sp <some address> error 4 in libxfce4kbd-private-2. | 20:59 |
| Kyle__ | " | 20:59 |
| holstein | Kyle__: oddd.. what are you doing when that happens? does it happen on the live CD with your hardware? | 21:26 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: livecd seems fine. I'm running it through vnc (tried vnc4server and tigervncserver). | 21:27 |
| Kyle__ | When I tried from lightdm, it kicks me out immediately. | 21:27 |
| holstein | Kyle__: what are you changing when you install? | 21:28 |
| holstein | why are you using VNC? have you tried vino/vinagre? | 21:28 |
| holstein | i like vino and remmina | 21:28 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: Nothing. I just let it do an install. I tried running apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Didn't help. | 21:28 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: Virtual system. vncserver on it's own runs much better than vnc off of a virtualized video card. | 21:29 |
| holstein | Kyle__: AFAIK, we dont ship vnc4server, so you are installing something, correct? | 21:29 |
| holstein | Kyle__: nothing about ubuntustudio will work well virtualized | 21:29 |
| holstein | Kyle__: you might want to try one of the really light ones like lubuntu | 21:30 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: Yes, after it routinely kicked me out when trying to log in via lightdm. | 21:30 |
| holstein | Kyle__: and vino? how did vino work? | 21:30 |
| Kyle__ | I'm going for the xfce4 desktop; when we showed students xubuntu kubuntu and ubuntu-stuido, they liked the studio desktop best. | 21:30 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: Haven't tried, I can't login via lightdm, and I don't know how to launch vino from the command line. | 21:31 |
| holstein | Kyle__: im not clear on what your issue is | 21:31 |
| holstein | Kyle__: maybe you just want to use virtualization in the software.. i know virtualbox has its own | 21:32 |
| holstein | vino has always worked well for me | 21:32 |
| holstein | i have only done ubuntustudio installs in vbox to test iso's | 21:32 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: If I try and login in after the install, it returns me to the login screen (lightdm) as soon as accepting the password. | 21:32 |
| holstein | nothing we have will be useable virtualized | 21:32 |
| holstein | none of the audio stuff will work | 21:32 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: I'm just using it for the nicely polished desktop. Asside from gimp, they'll be using office and a browser. | 21:33 |
| holstein | Kyle__: i would make a different user, and try logging in.. do that now | 21:33 |
| holstein | Kyle__: xubuntu would be very similar and more appropriate | 21:34 |
| holstein | i dont think this is the issue you are having though... i think you have a config issue in the /home directory of that usere | 21:34 |
| holstein | user* | 21:34 |
| holstein | when you make a nwew user and try logging in, we will know | 21:34 |
| Kyle__ | Hum. I can log in as the new user. | 21:35 |
| holstein | Kyle__: so, something you do after install breaks X | 21:36 |
| Kyle__ | But I added it form the CLI, so it didn't get the normal skeleton. | 21:36 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: Before I did anything, I couldn't log in with the initial user. | 21:36 |
| holstein | Kyle__: you can start tossing things from the /home directory to see what it is | 21:36 |
| holstein | Kyle__: well, as long as you know where the issue lies | 21:36 |
| Kyle__ | holstein: That's the thing. I know xfsettingsd is dying, I don't know why. | 21:37 |
| holstein | Kyle__: i think you'll find when you get rid of the xsession config and/or XFCE stuff and let those respawn, you'll be able to login | 21:37 |
| holstein | Kyle__: why is due to a config in the /home directory | 21:37 |
| holstein | why your /home directory is having that issue is another question | 21:38 |
| MaynardWaters | Kyle__: dont know if this will help you but when I was trying to run ustudio on a eeepc (very weak hardware) the xfce desktop made a great deal of difference in responsiveness | 21:38 |
| holstein | we also have nautilus | 21:39 |
| holstein | its just not a good choice for virtualization | 21:39 |
| Kyle__ | Due to the kernel tuning, or the default software? | 21:40 |
| holstein | yes. and other things | 21:40 |
| Kyle__ | Other things? | 21:41 |
| holstein | main ubuntu plans for being vitualized, though it would be arguably heavy too... xubuntu and lubuntu liely have a conversation like "lets worry about virtualization" | 21:41 |
| holstein | we specifically know no one will virtualize ubuntustudio | 21:42 |
| holstein | we dont test it that way, for performance | 21:42 |
| holstein | will it work? sure | 21:42 |
| holstein | but you could just use xubuntu, and have a larger more desktop oriented community and light software | 21:42 |
| holstein | more appropriate | 21:42 |
| holstein | i mean, they are all ubuntu... the same repos and software available.. im just talking about out of the box, wha i think is best | 21:43 |
| Kyle__ | Granted. Was just going for the desktop the students liked best (trying to lower their resistance to using cloud desktops). | 21:44 |
| holstein | sure.. run it on metal, and id agree | 21:44 |
| holstein | im not saying this wont work either.. just that if you are running into problems, it could be due to the fact that we dont plan for it being virtualized | 21:45 |
| Kyle__ | if that was the case, I'd expect the problems to be more around load. | 21:47 |
| holstein | feel free and keep working with it.. im sure you'll sort it out, and make it work, and im glad to have you looking at the project | 21:47 |
| holstein | im just trying to get you something more appropriate out of the box | 21:48 |
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