[13:55] <FloatingGoat_> how do i get wifi to work with the realtime kernel
[13:55] <ailo-w> FloatingGoat_: Realtime kernel?
[13:55] <ailo-w> Which one?
[13:55] <FloatingGoat_> lemme see
[13:56] <ailo-w> FloatingGoat_: We don't have one in the repo
[13:56] <FloatingGoat_> what kernel do you have?
[13:56] <ailo-w> linux-generic and linux-lowlatency
[13:56] <ailo-w> linux-lowlatency is the default Ubuntu Studio kernel
[13:57] <ailo-w> It's not realtime
[13:57] <ailo-w> It's basically a -generic kernel, with enhanced preempt configuration
[13:57] <FloatingGoat_> okay this might just solve my problem
[13:57] <ailo-w> About as good as a -realtime kernel, what low latency is concerned. How good, has not really been measured what I know
[13:58] <ailo-w> I recommend the -lowlatency kernel, just for the fact that it has full Ubuntu support, and will work with anything you use -generic for
[13:58] <FloatingGoat_> yeah i was just trying to get the kernel i used in ubuntu studio
[13:58] <FloatingGoat_> since im not using it anymore
[13:58] <FloatingGoat_> i installed the realtime kernel
[13:59] <ailo-w> I assume you added a PPA for the realtime kernel?
[13:59] <FloatingGoat_> yeah kxstudio
[13:59] <FloatingGoat_> im going to try it out now
[13:59] <FloatingGoat_> ill be right back
[13:59] <ailo-w> FloatingGoat_: I'd go and ask on #kxstudio about that
[13:59] <ailo-w> Gotta go. good luck
[20:59] <Kyle__> I'm having trouble with xfsettingsd crashing in my ubuntu-studio image.  It's most often dying after keyboard input (of any kind), with "segfault at 14 ip <some address> sp <some address> error 4 in libxfce4kbd-private-2.
[20:59] <Kyle__> "
[21:26] <holstein> Kyle__: oddd.. what are you doing when that happens? does it happen on the live CD with your hardware?
[21:27] <Kyle__> holstein: livecd seems fine.  I'm running it through vnc (tried vnc4server and tigervncserver).
[21:27] <Kyle__> When I tried from lightdm, it kicks me out immediately.
[21:28] <holstein> Kyle__: what are you changing when you install?
[21:28] <holstein> why are you using VNC? have you tried vino/vinagre?
[21:28] <holstein> i like vino and remmina
[21:28] <Kyle__> holstein: Nothing.  I just let it do an install.  I tried running apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.  Didn't help.
[21:29] <Kyle__> holstein: Virtual system.  vncserver on it's own runs much better than vnc off of a virtualized video card.
[21:29] <holstein> Kyle__: AFAIK, we dont ship vnc4server, so you are installing something, correct?
[21:29] <holstein> Kyle__: nothing about ubuntustudio will work well virtualized
[21:30] <holstein> Kyle__: you might want to try one of the really light ones like lubuntu
[21:30] <Kyle__> holstein: Yes, after it routinely kicked me out when trying to log in via lightdm.
[21:30] <holstein> Kyle__: and vino? how did vino work?
[21:30] <Kyle__> I'm going for the xfce4 desktop; when we showed students xubuntu kubuntu and ubuntu-stuido, they liked the studio desktop best.
[21:31] <Kyle__> holstein: Haven't tried, I can't login via lightdm, and I don't know how to launch vino from the command line.
[21:31] <holstein> Kyle__: im not clear on what your issue is
[21:32] <holstein> Kyle__: maybe you just want to use virtualization in the software.. i know virtualbox has its own
[21:32] <holstein> vino has always worked well for me
[21:32] <holstein> i have only done ubuntustudio installs in vbox to test iso's
[21:32] <Kyle__> holstein: If I try and login in after the install, it returns me to the login screen (lightdm) as soon as accepting the password.
[21:32] <holstein> nothing we have will be useable virtualized
[21:32] <holstein> none of the audio stuff will work
[21:33] <Kyle__> holstein: I'm just using it for the nicely polished desktop.  Asside from gimp, they'll be using office and a browser.
[21:33] <holstein> Kyle__: i would make a different user, and try logging in.. do that now
[21:34] <holstein> Kyle__: xubuntu would be very similar and more appropriate
[21:34] <holstein> i dont think this is the issue you are having though... i think you have a config issue in the /home directory of that usere
[21:34] <holstein> user*
[21:34] <holstein> when you make a nwew user and try logging in, we will know
[21:35] <Kyle__> Hum.  I can log in as the new user.
[21:36] <holstein> Kyle__: so, something you do after install breaks X
[21:36] <Kyle__> But I added it form the CLI, so it didn't get the normal skeleton.
[21:36] <Kyle__> holstein: Before I did anything, I couldn't log in with the initial user.
[21:36] <holstein> Kyle__: you can start tossing things from the /home directory to see what it is
[21:36] <holstein> Kyle__: well, as long as you know where the issue lies
[21:37] <Kyle__> holstein: That's the thing. I know xfsettingsd is dying, I don't know why.
[21:37] <holstein> Kyle__: i think you'll find when you get rid of the xsession config and/or XFCE stuff and let those respawn, you'll be able to login
[21:37] <holstein> Kyle__: why is due to a config in the /home directory
[21:38] <holstein> why your /home directory is having that issue is another question
[21:38] <MaynardWaters> Kyle__:  dont know if this will help you but when I was trying to run ustudio on a eeepc (very weak hardware) the xfce desktop made a great deal of difference in responsiveness
[21:39] <holstein> we also have nautilus
[21:39] <holstein> its just not a good choice for virtualization
[21:40] <Kyle__> Due to the kernel tuning, or the default software?
[21:40] <holstein> yes. and other things
[21:41] <Kyle__> Other things?
[21:41] <holstein> main ubuntu plans for being vitualized, though it would be arguably heavy too... xubuntu and lubuntu liely have a conversation like "lets worry about virtualization"
[21:42] <holstein> we specifically know no one will virtualize ubuntustudio
[21:42] <holstein> we dont test it that way, for performance
[21:42] <holstein> will it work? sure
[21:42] <holstein> but you could just use xubuntu, and have a larger more desktop oriented community and light software
[21:42] <holstein> more appropriate
[21:43] <holstein> i mean, they are all ubuntu... the same repos and software available.. im just talking about out of the box, wha i think is best
[21:44] <Kyle__> Granted.  Was just going for the desktop the students liked best (trying to lower their resistance to using cloud desktops).
[21:44] <holstein> sure.. run it on metal, and id agree
[21:45] <holstein> im not saying this wont work either.. just that if you are running into problems, it could be due to the fact that we dont plan for it being virtualized
[21:47] <Kyle__> if that was the case, I'd expect the problems to be more around load.
[21:47] <holstein> feel free and keep working with it.. im sure you'll sort it out, and make it work, and im glad to have you looking at the project
[21:48] <holstein> im just trying to get you something more appropriate out of the box