| nixternal | I just noticed that 12.10 isn't respecting the browser I select as default in system settings. i have google-chrome as default, however when i select a link outside of chrome, it gets opened in rekonq | 00:56 |
|---|---|---|
| nixternal | >>> [1005 2] grep google-chrome ~/.kde/share/config/* | 00:57 |
| nixternal | /home/nixternal/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals:BrowserApplication=google-chrome.desktop | 00:57 |
| nixternal | ok, had to restart my session for that to kick in. don't know why that didn't stick during the upgrade | 00:59 |
| nixternal | google-chrome was my default browser in 12.04, but after the upgrade to 12.10 it reverted back to rekonq | 00:59 |
| nixternal | file a boog or let it go? | 00:59 |
| nixternal | Riddell: FYI: installation didn't ask me to make a choice between KDM & LightDM | 01:00 |
| nixternal | I was waiting for that step, but it never happened | 01:00 |
| BluesKaj | think lightdm is default in 12.10 , nixternal | 01:02 |
| nixternal | I think it is as well, but in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu page that Riddell posted, it says it will ask you to choose between KDM & LightDM | 01:04 |
| BluesKaj | ok , understood | 01:05 |
| nixternal | i need to figure out how to make lightdm fit my main screen now with a dual monitor setup. forgot how i did that with kdm | 01:08 |
| nixternal | and to be honest, i really don't care that much about it :) | 01:08 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, I don't get the change from kdm , it worked fine but it's just a greeter so it's no big deal | 01:10 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I took that note out. | 01:33 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 01:33 |
| nixternal | no prob sir, glad I could contribute a lil sumpin' | 01:37 |
| ScottK | We could announce the release again while Riddell's sleeping. | 01:38 |
| nixternal | wasn't he sleeping when he announced it originally? :p | 01:44 |
| nixternal | that's the whole reason I upgraded today. oh well, seems to be ok thus far, though I had my machine just shut off about an hour ago for no reason. | 01:44 |
| nixternal | i thought the power went out, then i realized a) this is a laptop with a battery and b) the lights are still on | 01:44 |
| ScottK | Kernel. Not our fault. | 01:51 |
| === SolidLiq is now known as CodeGuru | ||
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 06:37 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| valorie | actually, it errored out at the same place, saying that | 08:48 |
| valorie | E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6 | 08:49 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 08:57 |
| shadeslayer | thanks spacetime | 08:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we haz stickers http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/IMAG0354.jpg | 08:58 |
| shadeslayer | for some reason my phone takes really noise photos | 08:59 |
| valorie | those stickers are great! | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 09:00 |
| shadeslayer | all thanks to spacetime for getting them printed ;) | 09:00 |
| valorie | yay spacetime! | 09:01 |
| shadeslayer | spacetime: how many are these 0.o | 09:03 |
| shadeslayer | I count 900 | 09:03 |
| * yofel is sure shadeslayer is raring to make some ringtail stickers too | 09:05 | |
| shadeslayer | lol | 09:05 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: the fun part is that we get to write raring in our changelogs for months | 09:06 |
| yofel | indeed | 09:06 |
| yofel | at least it's easy to type :P | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | would have been even more awesome if it was 'roaring' | 09:07 |
| Riddell | 100% ready, awooga | 09:26 |
| micmord | Hello, what about this? http://blogs.kde.org/2012/10/17/kubuntu-not-released-yet | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | micmord: it'll be released sometime later today | 10:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell accidentally left the published button ticked | 10:19 |
| smartboyhw | micmord, of course it hasn't been released on 17th............. it will be on 18th:D | 10:19 |
| micmord | shadeslayer: lol | 10:26 |
| Riddell | rar | 11:23 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you want to roar? | 11:24 |
| Riddell | a polite rar | 11:24 |
| Riddell | getting in the mood for the next six months | 11:24 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :D | 11:25 |
| Riddell | bah kubuntu.org is being crap, what a surprise, images not syncing | 11:31 |
| smartboyhw | ! | 11:32 |
| Mamarok | did somebody find time to package the new libmygpo-qt version yet? | 11:44 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: It's kind of late for quantal but I think I can get to it after maliit if it's not urgent | 11:54 |
| Quintasan | Hi | 11:54 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: yes, I know, but it would be nice to have in the backports for it, as it will be needed for the next Amarok | 11:55 |
| Mamarok | not urgent at all | 11:55 |
| yofel | kubotu: newversion libmygpo-qt 1.0.6 http://stefan.derkits.at/files/libmygpo-qt/libmygpo-qt.1.0.6.tar.gz | 11:58 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1068078 | 11:58 |
| Quintasan | fancy | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 12:02 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I'm on it | 12:02 |
| yofel | sure, I just wanted to make sure it's not lost | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | can we add SRU functionality xD | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Do we put it in kubuntu-backports or apply for inclusion in Ubuntu backports? | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | I don't kike filling out paperworks | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | *paperwork | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Noone does | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | I'd rather do packaging all day long instead of filling our sru's or other magic | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fun fact, the build lp object does not update buildstate once the build state changes | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | so I get stuck with a outdated buildstate | 12:04 |
| yofel | do we need it in quantal *now* ? Otherwise just throw it into raring once it's open and backport as needed | 12:04 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I wouldn't really do packaging all day | 12:04 |
| Quintasan | yofel: No we don't. | 12:05 |
| Quintasan | >raring | 12:05 |
| Quintasan | ? | 12:05 |
| yofel | if you guys really have time go update the screenshots for the feature-tour | 12:05 |
| yofel | Quintasan: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1195 | 12:05 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: new releasename | 12:05 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I'm asking where the backport should go :P | 12:05 |
| Quintasan | backport as needed implies you need to backport it somewhere | 12:05 |
| yofel | well, Mamarok said amarok needs it, so put it wherever you're going to backport amarok ot | 12:06 |
| yofel | *to | 12:06 |
| yofel | probably our backports first | 12:06 |
| Quintasan | kubuntu-backports I say | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | mmm bug fix release | 12:07 |
| * Quintasan uploads and stores the packaging | 12:07 | |
| shadeslayer | doesn't that warrant a SRU? | 12:07 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: It does | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | but you don't feel like filling out paperwork? : | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 12:07 |
| yofel | does it have a point release permission? Othewise you'll still have to review the diff | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | ^ | 12:08 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I'm uploading to kubuntu-backports :P | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | hurrr durrr | 12:08 |
| Quintasan | trolololol | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: you don't get one of these http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/IMAG0354.jpg | 12:08 |
| Quintasan | Why is that? | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | because you're not SRU'ing :P | 12:09 |
| Quintasan | Do we have SRU things into kubuntu-backports ppa? | 12:09 |
| Quintasan | mother of god | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | no no | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | I'm saying that you should SRU libmygpo-qt | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | since it's a bug fix release | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | and it shouldn't be too much of a hassle | 12:10 |
| Quintasan | quantal repos just closed | 12:10 |
| Quintasan | give em a week or something | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | right | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | I didn't mean right away ;) | 12:10 |
| Riddell | SRUs need a good reason to get in, known bugs which it fixes | 12:11 |
| Riddell | and fixes in a verifiable way | 12:11 |
| Quintasan | I had something similar sitting in my head but I didn't want to spew information I'm not certain of. | 12:11 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: no changelog on website of course xD | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 12:13 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: any particular reason libmygpo-qt should be updated via SRU? | 12:13 |
| shadeslayer | or should we just put it in backports | 12:13 |
| yofel | uhm, we were talking about backports in the first place | 12:14 |
| Quintasan | That's shadeslayer we're talking about :P | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | right, but the question is if it fixes criticla bugs that would warrant a SRU | 12:14 |
| Quintasan | Do we even have any bugs reported against it? | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | *critical | 12:15 |
| yofel | 0 bugs on LP | 12:15 |
| Quintasan | lemme look at the bugzilla | 12:15 |
| Quintasan | 2 bugs on their buzilla | 12:15 |
| yofel | otherwise here: https://github.com/gpodder/libmygpo-qt/commits/master | 12:16 |
| * yofel goes back to work | 12:16 | |
| shadeslayer | I'm just making sure we're not in the dark about some critical bug that Mamarok knows about ;) | 12:16 |
| Quintasan | Nothing interesting there as well | 12:16 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer, yofel, Riddell: uploading to kubuntu-backports in 2 minutes if I don't have anyone against it. | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | fine by me :) | 12:17 |
| Quintasan | I almost did not test build additional time | 12:18 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: https://github.com/gpodder/libmygpo-qt/compare/1.0.5...1.0.6 | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | <3 github | 12:19 |
| Quintasan | oh waut | 12:20 |
| Quintasan | new symbols! | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 12:20 |
| Quintasan | just additions | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | I was about to say that after looking at the diff ;) | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 12:20 |
| skaet | Riddell, its looking like the Kubuntu images are pretty much tested out and ready to go, could you sign off by adding the date in the "testing sign-off column" on the manifest? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseManifest) | 12:24 |
| Riddell | what do you think guys? shall I sign off? | 12:24 |
| * Quintasan testbuilds | 12:25 | |
| Riddell | (guys in the gender neutral sense) | 12:25 |
| skaet | ;) | 12:25 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I did some testing and I was generally happy with the results, installers were a little bit slow but I blame it on the VM | 12:25 |
| * smartboyhw thinks Riddell should sign it off | 12:26 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: +1 | 12:26 |
| Quintasan | the desktop after install was well, normal, nothing special there | 12:26 |
| Quintasan | so, +1 on sign off | 12:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: +1 | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: your wiki page needs updating ;) | 12:28 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 12:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I think I'll save that for another day | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | "D | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 12:29 |
| smartboyhw | XD | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | gosh, I'm making all sorts of silly typos today | 12:29 |
| Quintasan | oh wait | 12:30 |
| Riddell | skaet: voila | 12:30 |
| Quintasan | I'm dumb | 12:30 |
| Quintasan | I marked it as fix released where I uploaded it only to backports | 12:30 |
| skaet | Riddell, merci beaucoup! | 12:30 |
| Quintasan | any time for R repos to open? | 12:30 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Which screenshots need to be updated? | 12:31 |
| yofel | most are ok, if possible replace kopete with ktp | 12:31 |
| Quintasan | Sure | 12:31 |
| Quintasan | let me go to VM | 12:31 |
| yofel | I'm not sure how that water-mirror effect was done though | 12:31 |
| yofel | s/water-// | 12:32 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "I'm not sure how that mirror effect was done though" | 12:32 |
| yofel | not sure when the repos is open, at least https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Raring-changes already exists | 12:38 |
| Quintasan | Lemme blur out contact info | 12:53 |
| Quintasan | ... | 12:54 |
| Quintasan | is there something like brush tool in krita? | 12:55 |
| Quintasan | da hell is this crap | 12:56 |
| Quintasan | why do we provide something saying digital paiting and I can't find a damn brush tool anywhere | 12:57 |
| Riddell | any thoughts for a tagline to use on the banner image? | 12:57 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Can you look into Bug #1066582 ? | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066582 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Rekonq tries to save downloads in '/' by default" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066582 | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:02 |
| smartboyhw | Hi BluesKaj | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | hey smartboyhw | 13:02 |
| Quintasan | Quintasan can't into Krita | 13:03 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Can you take a screenshot of dragon player playing something? | 13:04 |
| yofel | not until I get home (i.e. in up to 4h) | 13:05 |
| Quintasan | yofel, Riddell: Here are dem KTP images http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/ | 13:12 |
| Quintasan | I think I might have overdone it with the blurring | 13:12 |
| yofel | nah, they're ok IMO, question is how that mirror effect was done. But that's better than having Kopete on the page | 13:13 |
| Riddell | with screenie? | 13:14 |
| Riddell | here's a question, our download page currently says 32-bit recommended, should we recommend 64-bit now? | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | well | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | the major question would be flash | 13:17 |
| Riddell | just as good on 64-bit these days | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | then imo it shouldn't really be an issue | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | with the advent of multiarch you can install i386 libs on amd64 | 13:18 |
| Riddell | I think the reason for 32 is it works on all PCs while 64-bit won't work on older/cheaper | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | right | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | the question is, does anyone have those old machines which still only run 32 bit archs | 13:18 |
| Riddell | my netbook is 32 bit only | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: about bug 1066582, can you check what Account Details > Path > Download Path says? | 13:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066582 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Rekonq tries to save downloads in '/' by default" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066582 | 13:19 |
| Riddell | and yes of course people will, but are they aware of it I wonder | 13:19 |
| yofel | my eeePC is 32bit only as well | 13:20 |
| shadeslayer | imo the right way to approach it would be, "Do you have more than 4 GB's of RAM? Yes? Install the 64 bit iso, for everything else, 32 bit is fine " | 13:20 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: if you mean the default folder settings, that was set to Downloads I believe. I'll recheck later | 13:20 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: only without PAE, with that you usually get up to 64GiB | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | sigh, I thought all processors had 64 bit capabilities now | 13:21 |
| yofel | at least on my i7 PAE is 36bit adress width | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: people who have 64 GB's of RAM most certainly know what to do without thinking twice :p | 13:21 |
| yofel | also, 32bit does use a bit less memory, and has no multiarch issues | 13:23 |
| yofel | so IMO keep 32bit the default | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: tried that apparently neither amarok nor tomahawk apparently cares, will have to do it myself it appears | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: btw did you get a chance to try the workspace from my ppa? | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | bug 1039261 | 13:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1039261 in synaptiks (Ubuntu Precise) "Version Error loading touchpad kcm: Xinput extension is too old" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039261 | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | wasn't that fixed? | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | not for precise :P | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | oh ok | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | for some reason synaptiks works just fine here | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: can I force overwrite firefox github repo | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | I messed it up with ff 16 :( | 13:42 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 13:42 | |
| apachelogger | fix your repo | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | https://github.com/shadeslayer/firefox-kde is what I suggest | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | or forcepush, it is not like i care in particular | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | forcepush is what I'm thinking, but we lose all history | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | as if it matters | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | no clue why you need a force push though | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | point being: learn to use git. | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | I know, I just messed it up this time :( | 13:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Not yet. | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | raring? | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | seriously | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 13:52 |
| * ScottK wanted roasted | 13:53 | |
| shadeslayer | roasted rump? :P | 13:53 |
| ScottK | rabbit | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: quantal-proposed upload for bug 1066892 incoming | 13:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066892 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Quantal) "initial power profiles do not use suspend support" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/quantal/release/ | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | ISO release page is up it seems | 13:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ssh, it's a secret | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 14:02 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I will tell EVERYBODY in #ubuntu-release-party | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:02 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: um please don't | 14:03 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I will;P | 14:03 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you did, even though it's not released yet | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | sigh | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | sigh | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | that channel is insanely active, so hopefully that link would have scrolled past by for most people | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | sigh | 14:07 |
| cmagina | /join #ubuntu-release-party | 14:10 |
| cmagina | not sure why that wasn't a command, must need more coffee | 14:10 |
| Riddell | an extra space | 14:11 |
| cmagina | ah, yeah, i see it | 14:11 |
| jjesse | is #ubuntu-release-party where i go and spam "is it out yet" "is it out yet" | 14:12 |
| cmagina | thanks for a great release everyone, been a pretty smooth ride since alpha | 14:13 |
| Riddell | cmagina: it's not out yet! | 14:13 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes that's the one | 14:13 |
| cmagina | it will be soon :) | 14:13 |
| jjesse | the page scrolls way to fast, but i assume thats what is going to be asked | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | I totally don't get that channel | 14:16 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's a fun community thing | 14:16 |
| jjesse | yeah i don't understand it eithe r:) | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | <<-- not social enough | 14:17 |
| Riddell | there's not much to understand, marcel proust it is not | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | http://i.imgur.com/UrBPd.png < it's alive :D | 14:21 |
| yofel | shadeslayer++ | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | I'm just testing it now to check if it actually does show notifications once the package starts building | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | so it should go something like : i386 build of KDevelop started!!! | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | more notifications | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | that's what we need | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | :P | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | allee: pingpingpingping | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | bambee: pingpingping | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it was getting annoying to refresh build pages :P | 14:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Quote for you from #u-r-p: "haggis is the new bacon" - I've no idea the context. | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug 368061 is impossible is it not? | 14:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368061 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "auto-login should not work with encrypted home" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368061 | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | well, installation-wise | 14:32 |
| ScottK | It is. | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: started with : [19:57:33] <TheHaggisBeast> HAGGIS FTW! | 14:32 |
| Riddell | now I'm tempted to buy one of the lovely haggis pizzas for tea this evening | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: isn't that in direct conflict with bug 1066225 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066225 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt home folder needs to be checkbox not radio button" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066225 | 14:34 |
| bambee | apachelogger: pongpongpong | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yes-no | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | if you encrypt your home folder, you should not be allowed to choose autologin and hence the radio button makes sense | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: turns out that bug argues that it should be visually apparent that encryption only is possible iff one does not use auto-login | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | which makes sense | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no it does not | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | it does not visually indicate the requirements | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | oh so you want to make it a checkbox, but disable it on auto login? | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | (*) autologin | 14:35 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: See the screen shot of the Ubuntu installer. | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | ( ) login | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | [ ] encrypt home | 14:35 |
| ScottK | The way they do it make it very clear what goes with what. | 14:36 |
| ScottK | Yes. Like that. | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | ahhhh | 14:36 |
| ScottK | I thought 1066225 was kind of bogus until I saw the screen shot. | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: same here | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | bug 542856 | 14:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 542856 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "gdm has entry for kde but kde is not fully installed" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542856 | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | we really need some policy on desktop files | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | right now we often have them in a -data package which screws epically with all sorts of software | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: what do we do with bug 876399 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 876399 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm upstart profile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876399 | 14:41 |
| vista_killer | nice work with the 12.10 i have just upgrade | 14:42 |
| vista_killer | gz :)!! | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | totally valid and stuff, but that would potentially downgrade startup of setups that don't need that crap | 14:42 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: If it's a good fix, upload it. People can still use kdm if they want. | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | (FWIW: lightdm also does not do it) | 14:42 |
| ScottK | Maybe now that we have lightdm by default, that's ok. | 14:42 |
| Riddell | thanks vista_killer | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, if we let that kdm change in one could argue that lightdm should also be able to take network into account, seeing as lightdm is now default ;) | 14:43 |
| vista_killer | you welcome :) | 14:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'd suggest the opposite. Lightdm is for the ~common case and if you need the networky stuff, use kdm. | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | actually I think my question is: if we don't let it in, what would be a good way to allow for people to still enable that feature | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | because... perhaps it would be more general a solution to simply have two upstart configs, and the admin can decide which one to use | 14:45 |
| ScottK | How does one switch? | 14:45 |
| yofel | document it how people can set that themselves? should just be adding an override | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: alternatives | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | all of dm stuff is handled via alternatives | 14:46 |
| ScottK | alternatives are between packages, not within one though. | 14:46 |
| ScottK | IIRC | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | can be latter unless I misremember things | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | anywho, so you have a package upstart-kdm-network for example | 14:46 |
| yofel | one could ship more in a package as long as it's properly set up in postinst | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | which contains only the upstart config | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | which actually makes it even more accessible as you then get a nice prompt when installing that additional package | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | "which dm do you want to use..." | 14:47 |
| * apachelogger has a which problem | 14:47 | |
| apachelogger | bambee: whatever happened to userconfig getting into kde? and going c++? and stuff? | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | also polkit ^^ | 14:48 |
| yofel | what's wrong with polkit? | 14:48 |
| yofel | or was it supposed to get a new UI? | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | userconfig doesn't use it | 14:48 |
| yofel | ah | 14:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You aren't the only one to publish early: http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1210-breaks-down-barrier-between-pc-and-web | 14:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: so easy to do, missing those pre-ticked boxes | 14:52 |
| ScottK | Apparently that one doesn't actually say it's released. | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | yofel, Riddell: I cannot reproduce bug 1066861 | 14:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066861 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Quantal) "Plasma-netbook freezes after clicking on 'Page one' in the panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066861 | 14:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: really? | 15:00 |
| Riddell | that's surprising | 15:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: live system? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | it only happens on live? | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 15:01 |
| allee | apachelogger: pong | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | allee: any other digikam bugs that may be SRUable? | 15:02 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: with network or without? | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | what graphics driver? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | intel, probably without network | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | started into netbook or desktop and then swichted to netbook? | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | also i386? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | I only have a i386 netbook | 15:09 |
| Riddell | from a newly installed quantal image | 15:09 |
| * apachelogger tries with today's snapshot of i386 | 15:10 | |
| apachelogger | unfortunately I do not have my netbook here | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: can you still reproduce it in the install? | 15:10 |
| Riddell | yep | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | curious enough | 15:11 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Does https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-kubuntu-ubiquity-other need a session at UDS? | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you have time to try something right now? | 15:11 |
| * ScottK thinks we should accept it. | 15:11 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: yes, especially if xnox can come | 15:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: could do | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: first please paste your plasma-netbook-appletsrc | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | plasma-netbookrc too | 15:12 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: didn't you want to redo ubiquity in qml? | 15:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Done. Would you please make yourself essential on that one. | 15:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-netbookrc | 15:15 |
| Riddell | http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-netbook-appletsrc | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: forbidden | 15:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: try now | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | w00t | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://i.imgur.com/T6CTD.png | 15:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: did you run a full plasma-netbook session or just run plasma-netbook binary from a desktop session? | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | latter, it was an older build though | 15:20 |
| ScottK | We should probably make some specs for UDS. | 15:21 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I wasn't going to think about that until we were released :) | 15:21 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:21 |
| Riddell | but don't let me put you off | 15:22 |
| ScottK | Except once we release you probably won't be able to get to the data center to do it. | 15:22 |
| Riddell | a postponed-review session would be good | 15:22 |
| ScottK | Well, I'm allegedly doing $work ATM. | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287092/ | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | appletsrc that is | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | bleh | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | usb-creator once again seems broken | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 15:27 |
| ScottK | Works here just fine. | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | doesn't enable the bottom 2 options for me | 15:27 |
| ScottK | The ones about persistence? | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | aye | 15:28 |
| ScottK | Hmm. Fine here. | 15:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that makes the issue go away | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: that looks nice, how does it know what builds it should notify you about? | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: you supply the ppa's to monitor :) | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: want a test? | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | supply neon ppa | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | xD | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://paste.kde.org/573410/ | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | test it yourself :P | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | put it into kubuntu-dev-tools | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: it's going to go into lptools :P | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | I fear a 10 second poll interval is too little however | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | indeed | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | should probably make it one minute | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | change it to like 2 minutes | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | publishing also takes time | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 15:32 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: 100 milliseconds is a good poll interval. LP will appreciate the stress test. | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | admin will kill us ScottK | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | ^ | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | not like we are already using tons of space wiht Project Neon | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | :P | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | anywho, right now the poll interval is something like 10.1 seconds | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | set it to 2 minutes | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | and we should be L | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | K* | 15:34 |
| * shadeslayer downloads 12.10 to server to seed it | 15:34 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: any change with that rc? | 15:38 |
| allee | apachelogger: Bug 1011211 I think wie should s/konqueror/rekonq | www-browser/ | 15:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1011211 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam depends on konqueror" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1011211 | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | oh man | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | I love this script | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | I don't even have to check the page now :D | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | and I know kdevelop i386 built | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | allee: it may actually require kfmclient, which at some point was part of konqueror | 15:39 |
| allee | apachelogger: AFAIR it was needed to displya the results. Now when I tried flickr with digikam 2.8 immediately chrome (my default browser poped up) | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: poll of 100ms I also recommend | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | allee: that's what kfmclient would do ;) | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | though kfmclient is a deprecated way to do it, so I should hope it does not use it ^^ | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I'll set the script to identify itself as "Harald Sitter's test script" | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | though I guess that'll do no good since I have to supply login credentials | 15:41 |
| allee | I have no flickr account so I'm not sure what happens after authentification | 15:41 |
| allee | apachelogger: grep -Ri kfm in flickr source found nothing | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | I am also certain that there'll be a hourly limit on API calls from a user | 15:42 |
| allee | apachelogger: it uses invokeBrowser(url.url()) | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | and what does that do? | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: lol | 15:43 |
| allee | apachelogger: open the browswer that configured in kde system settings | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | allee: I mean codewise ^^ | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | so this is fun | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | and if you want to run stress tests, try opening https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+packages | 15:44 |
| allee | apachelogger: it opens a browser to login to flickr. Then one should 'click' continue button. But I've no account to test | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/573422/ | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please explain that to me | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: explain what? | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | allee: I mean the function invokeBrowser | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why there be an applet that upstream does not have | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | huh? | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | I have no idea what you're talking about | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | whooo script segfaults when there are a large number of packages | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | so utterly uses on neon | 15:46 |
| allee | apachelogger: my guess maybe t's plasma active addon not plasma addon | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | debian/patches/kubuntu_01_news_applet_name.diff:+X-KDE-PluginInfo-Name=org.kde.news-qml | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | YOU GOT TO BE FING KIDING ME | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | kubuntu-default-settings has loads of crap | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | hidden | 15:47 |
| * apachelogger slaps Riddell with an intel tablet | 15:47 | |
| shadeslayer | we need to clean it next cycle | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | * Add kubuntu_01_news_applet_name.diff revert name of News plasmoid, | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | prevents broken widget on Kubuntu Active workspace LP: #1046437 | 15:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1046437 in plasma-mobile (Ubuntu Quantal) "empty plasmoid on default active workspace" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046437 | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | your kickass solution here breaks it for fing netbook | 15:48 |
| Riddell | doh | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | how do you even get the idea that changing a plugin name is a good idea? :'( | 15:48 |
| * apachelogger needs to go out for a bit | 15:48 | |
| Riddell | it's what active expects :( | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | fun fun fun | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | python crashes if I start more than 3-4 threads one after the other | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | adding a 1 second delay in between removes said crash | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | *giggle* | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | I have a steady 2 MBps upload speed on the i386 + amd64 torrents @_@ | 16:01 |
| Riddell | how's this? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download2 | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | why do we recommend 32 bit for 12.10 but 64 bit for 12.04? | 16:04 |
| Riddell | we recomment 32bit on the 12.04 download page | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | wait | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | wait | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | it says 12.10 LTS | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 16:05 |
| genii-around | Heh | 16:05 |
| Riddell | where? | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/16W4U.png | 16:05 |
| Riddell | ooh | 16:05 |
| Riddell | rekonq's search function doesn't find text in buttons :) | 16:06 |
| genii-around | If those are the only choices why are they in a dropdown? | 16:08 |
| Riddell | mostly historical | 16:09 |
| genii-around | Aaah | 16:09 |
| allee | apachelogger: Maybe kipi-plugins should just recommend www-browser not konqueror just like digikam | 16:10 |
| allee | digikam also recommends mplayerthumbs but this pkg seem not to exist (and I have multiverse enabled) | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | iirc there used to be a channel for preseeders | 16:13 |
| ScottK | allee: Is that kdegraphics-thumbnailers now? | 16:13 |
| allee | ScottK: not sure. I'm trying to find out ... | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | allee: it existed at some point | 16:14 |
| ScottK | mplayerthumbs existed through precise. | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: no, mplayerthumbs is in multimedia | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | not graphics | 16:15 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: also is a recommends change valid for a SRU? | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | (in addition to more reasonable stuff) | 16:15 |
| ScottK | Possibly. | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: sorry if I was a bit harsh earlier | 16:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no you weren't | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: that plasmoid is a completely different thing btw | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | part of declarative-plasmoids | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | which we have not packaged :S | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | so what we perhaps should do is ... revert the change to addons and bundle declarative-plasmoids in plasma-mobile | 16:17 |
| Riddell | yeah that seems reasonable | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | !find kfmclient | 16:18 |
| ubottu | File kfmclient found in app-install-data, kde-baseapps-dbg, kde-l10n-ar, kde-l10n-bg, kde-l10n-bs, kde-l10n-ca, kde-l10n-ca-valencia, kde-l10n-cs, kde-l10n-da, kde-l10n-de (and 133 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kfmclient&mode=&suite=quantal&arch=any | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | allee: I am reasonable certain that invokeBrowser uses kfmclient | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | looking at code right now | 16:21 |
| allee | apachelogger: I've purged konqueror (so kfmclient is no longer there). digikam still opens chrome with flickr client | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | it is tricky code | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | so | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | what happens is... it will try to get the configured default browser | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | and use that | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | if there is none it will try to use whatever is assciated with text/html | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | no direct kfmclient usage though | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | so I think we are fine | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | alright, all major ISO's seeding | 16:24 |
| allee | apachelogger: so recommends: rekonq | www-browser or only recommends www-browser like digikam | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | allee: so flickr plugins uses that? | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | that = invokebrowser | 16:25 |
| allee | apachelogger: yes, opens flickr login page. | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | also only www-browser would the way to go | 16:26 |
| allee | as very first action | 16:26 |
| * apachelogger has language issues | 16:27 | |
| ScottK | We know. | 16:29 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | and here I thought you had apachelogger issues | 16:29 |
| allee | apachelogger: as long as by default dolphin does not produce video icons, I think it's okay if digikam does not too. (IMHO I would like to have a opposite default, but I use quite powerful HW) | 16:30 |
| ScottK | No. I have lots of issued, but noe that kind. | 16:30 |
| allee | apachelogger: core/README say video icosn delagate to KDE. Please install ffmpegthumbs pkg. If this still is what KDE uses we should s/mplayerthumbs/ffmpegthumbs/ | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | allee: technically speaking nepomuk should provide those :P | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | allee: we have both mplayerthmubs and ffmpegthumbs upstream IIRC | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | on a technical level it does not matter which one is installed as digikam does nto interact with them directly anyway | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | so if we have ffmpegthumbs in the archive and no mplayerthumbs I assume a change would be in order ;) | 16:43 |
| allee | apachelogger: :-) | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | allee: bug 1011211 also fixable for precise? | 16:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1011211 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam depends on konqueror" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1011211 | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | digikam 2.5 IIRC | 16:44 |
| allee | I'll check if this really fixes the problem, becaues ffmpegthumbnailer is installed here, but dolphin does not let me confiigure video thumbs (and I assume dolphin used KDE video icon method too) | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | allee: bug allee: if you find | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | eh | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | allee: bug 1068220 | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1068220 in digikam (Ubuntu) "SRU preparation tracking bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068220 | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | oh, and if you find more stuff also add that there and a comment to the bug as to whether it can be fixed for 2.5 and 2.8 etc. | 16:48 |
| allee | apachelogger: at least in my bug e-mail folder there are no more digikam bugs that I found worth keeping. If I'll find the time I check launchpad list | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | allee: as a matter of fact, perhaps gilles knows about a major issue in 2.5 that he might want to have fixed to silence upstream bug reports | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: any update on the freeze thing with new rc file? | 16:53 |
| * apachelogger actually should go have something to eat | 16:53 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I don't understand, freeze thing with new rc file? | 16:58 |
| xnox | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes?os=kubuntu&ver=12.10&lang=en is broken... | 17:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: He wanted you to try the page one thing with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287092/ | 17:03 |
| ScottK | xnox: I don't think we can fix it here. | 17:06 |
| Riddell | 16:29 < Riddell> apachelogger: that makes the issue go away | 17:06 |
| allee | apachelogger: ffmpegthumgs was not enough. I had to install kffmpegthumbs to get video icons in dolphin and digikam | 17:07 |
| xnox | ScottK: hmmm well it's a simply redirect and it will go wherever you want it to go.... for ubuntu it goes to the wiki. | 17:08 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 17:08 |
| allee | apachelogger: I'm sure the phenominals better know what the default KDE method for video icons is | 17:08 |
| Riddell | xnox: it goes to the release announcement which isn't published yet since we haven't released yet | 17:09 |
| Riddell | but it will be | 17:09 |
| xnox | Riddell: we did release. | 17:10 |
| xnox | Riddell: =))) unless somehow ubuntu != kubuntu released. | 17:11 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1013626] systemsettings crashed with ImportError in /usr/share/kde4/apps/language-selector/language... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013626 (by Xavier Besnard) | 17:11 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 17:11 |
| Riddell | xnox: where? | 17:12 |
| tsimpson | xnox: to be fair, there hasn't been an announcement yet | 17:12 |
| tsimpson | Riddell: ubuntu.com main page | 17:13 |
| Riddell | hum | 17:13 |
| Riddell | well time to publish then | 17:13 |
| yofel | xnox: y'know, a mail to ubuntu-announce would've been nice :/ - usually people say to please wait on that | 17:14 |
| xnox | yofel: the person who sends those announcements was waiting on the website to go live. | 17:15 |
| tsimpson | they could just be publishing everything so when they announce it's all ready | 17:15 |
| * xnox can't email announce btw. | 17:15 | |
| yofel | xnox: well, and we were waiting for the announcement to make our page go live | 17:15 |
| xnox | tsimpson: well mirrors were syncing up for the past two hours now. now there is enough capacity the website is up. | 17:15 |
| yofel | so *someone* needs to switch priorities | 17:15 |
| xnox | yofel: ok. as long as the release-notes link will work when you do | 17:16 |
| xnox | =) | 17:16 |
| yofel | :) | 17:16 |
| yofel | "Avoid the pain of Windows 8." - hehehehe | 17:16 |
| * xnox assumed that all websites flip at the same time. sorry. | 17:16 | |
| david_ | just installed Quantual Beta on a brand new machine completely fresh. Very impressed. | 17:17 |
| === david_ is now known as d_ed | ||
| Riddell | d_ed: thanks :) | 17:17 |
| d_ed | aha, nickname back - that's better. | 17:17 |
| Riddell | but beta is old | 17:17 |
| yofel | xnox: nah, thanks for telling us that it's released ;) | 17:18 |
| d_ed | well, whatever the latest ISO was 2 days ago. | 17:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You might want to update the time on the news posting. It says it's from yesterday. | 17:19 |
| xnox | d_ed: we did spins ~24h ago. | 17:19 |
| ScottK | Congratulation everyone. | 17:19 |
| d_ed | oh.. you've actually released - I'm so slow | 17:19 |
| xnox | not all. | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 17:19 |
| ScottK | Not Kubuntu. | 17:19 |
| d_ed | I was travelling, that's my excuse. | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | mck182 is having issues though | 17:19 |
| d_ed | he's always having issues. | 17:19 |
| ScottK | Back to $work. | 17:19 |
| yofel | ScottK: well, that's drupal's fault :( | 17:19 |
| yofel | (the time) | 17:19 |
| d_ed | one comment (and I'm not sure which bug to file this under) | 17:19 |
| yofel | hm | 17:20 |
| * yofel goes digging through the settings | 17:20 | |
| d_ed | fresh install of Kubuntu, appears in Grub as "Ubuntu" | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 17:20 |
| yofel | d_ed: that's same for all, and has always been. Now it's just missing the kernel version | 17:20 |
| d_ed | I'm sure you used to have it write the 'correct' name out in the list? | 17:20 |
| d_ed | oh, ok. | 17:20 |
| d_ed | long time since I've dual booted | 17:20 |
| Riddell | ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/ | 17:20 |
| yofel | but yeah, it's supposed to be just ubuntu now | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: you mean like 'Rohan' ? | 17:21 |
| mparillo | yofel, ScottK: The time on the posting is a feature. It tells when it was created, and if you do not check the publish button for a couple of days, it will remind you that it was sitting unpublished for a couple of days. | 17:21 |
| yofel | \o/ | 17:21 |
| d_ed | \o/ ! | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | hahah, "Avoid the pain of W8" | 17:22 |
| mparillo | Congratulations, and it looks as if time on the news posting is fixed. | 17:22 |
| d_ed | shadeslayer: hmm? | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | <d_ed> I'm sure you used to have it write the 'correct' name out in the list? | 17:23 |
| Riddell | is this still needed in the #kubuntu topic? "Kmail users read this before upgrading: http://bit.ly/o841iy" | 17:23 |
| allee | apachelogger: ah my top 2 phonen questions : Seeing the all those 'portrait videothumbs reminds me, will phonon support rotation during runtime? And maybe even slow/fast moting | 17:24 |
| d_ed | ah :) | 17:24 |
| Riddell | thanks for your help on release ScottK , skaet , yofel , apachelogger , shadeslayer | 17:24 |
| yofel | Riddell: not really, that was up til precise. Now it won't matter | 17:24 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Upgrades from 12.04 -> 12.10 should be fine. | 17:24 |
| allee | s/moting/motion | 17:24 |
| ScottK | (re kmail) | 17:24 |
| ScottK | Maybe make it limited to "upgrading to 12.04. | 17:25 |
| genii-around | There have been maybe 3-4 cases I've seen since 12.04 came out where the kmail link was needed | 17:25 |
| * Quintasan celebrates | 17:26 | |
| Quintasan | Where is my beer | 17:26 |
| shadeslayer | in the cloud | 17:26 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 17:27 |
| * Quintasan goes to the kitchen | 17:27 | |
| * Riddell runs out for a bit | 17:27 | |
| * genii-around slides Quintasan that beer | 17:30 | |
| Quintasan | genii-around: oy, thanks mate | 17:30 |
| yofel | kubotu: order beer for everyone | 17:30 |
| * kubotu is going to his secret storehouse to get beer for everyone - might take some time. | 17:30 | |
| * kubotu is back and slides beer down the bar to everyone | 17:30 | |
| Quintasan | now I've got three of them! | 17:31 |
| genii-around | yofel: Hah, nice! | 17:31 |
| yofel | ok, announce out on identi.ca too | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | brrrr | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | someone forgot to change torrent links to quantal | 17:31 |
| yofel | oops ^^ | 17:32 |
| * shadeslayer is fixing | 17:32 | |
| mparillo | Should I remove the Beta-2 from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu ? | 17:35 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Do you want to fix the plasma-netbookrc and reupload your workspace SRU before I accept the power profiles fix? | 17:35 |
| yofel | mparillo: yes | 17:36 |
| yofel | mparillo: and the "12.10 LTS" should be "12.10" ^^ | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | can someone just double check "Get Kubuntu" ? | 17:37 |
| genii-around | shadeslayer: Both torrent links work now | 17:38 |
| mparillo | yofel: Good catch. 12.10 LTS is simply 12.10, and Beta-2 is removed. | 17:41 |
| genii-around | shadeslayer: "/kubuntu/releases/12.10/release/kubuntu-12.10-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4.img.gz was not found on this server." | 17:43 |
| skaet | Riddell, ScottK, and rest of Kubuntu team, Congratulations on getting Kubuntu 12.10 released! :) | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | genii-around: try now? | 17:44 |
| genii-around | shadeslayer: Works now | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 17:45 |
| genii-around | And Kubuntu-Active link is good too | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | awesomeness | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | sigh, I think this needs more firefighting | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | clicking on the images gives a 404 | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | not sure how that's even possible | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | well .. http://www.kubuntu.org/files/ubiquity-partitioner-wee.png is 404 | 17:49 |
| genii-around | 64bit torrent file has some issue, says can't locate tracker | 17:50 |
| genii-around | Restarted it now, seems OK | 17:50 |
| yofel | that always happens... | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | genii-around: works fine on my VPS | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | right | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | wheee .. we get 400 free stickers | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | thanks to spacetime | 17:51 |
| JontheEchidna | !info kdbg natty-backports | 17:51 |
| ubottu | Package kdbg does not exist in natty-backports | 17:51 |
| JontheEchidna | !info kdbg natty | 17:51 |
| ubottu | Package kdbg does not exist in natty | 17:51 |
| yofel | put some in an envelope and send them to me pretty please >.> | 17:51 |
| * spacetime hopes you liked em :) | 17:52 | |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:52 |
| yofel | JontheEchidna: natty had no kdbg because 2.5 didn't make it in time for release | 17:52 |
| * shadeslayer fixes links | 17:53 | |
| JontheEchidna | was it backported later? My dad seems to think so | 17:53 |
| JontheEchidna | he sent me this email: http://paste.kde.org/573554/ | 17:53 |
| yofel | hm, I believe I at least put it in the PPA... maybe someone just purged everything | 17:53 |
| JontheEchidna | So I'm wondering if I should tell him to try upgrading to a newer Kubuntu, or just reply that I use gdb myself :P | 17:54 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: Don't ask me how that happened, but the filenames don't match for the images | 17:55 |
| yofel | I'll try to fix it | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | because they got renamed to foo-wee | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | I fixed ktp and the installer | 17:56 |
| d_ed | I assume the -wee suffix was added to imply it's a thumbnail. And then the originals were never uploaded | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 17:56 |
| d_ed | "wee" is scottish for "small" | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | I know | 17:56 |
| d_ed | oh, you clearly know scottish. | 17:56 |
| maco | we know riddell | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | ^ | 17:57 |
| JontheEchidna | oha: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/kubuntu-ppa_backports/natty/main/base/kdbg | 17:57 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: wait, are you editing the page now? We probably shouldn't both do that | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I'm not editing it right now, I was editing it about 20 seconds ago | 17:57 |
| d_ed | shadeslayer: I have never heard an indian-scottish accent..that would be amazing. Work on it | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 17:57 |
| yofel | ok, then I'll edit it now | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 17:57 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: the links aren't supposed to use wee, instead some images are already there, so drupal added _<num> | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | so the images are supposed to open the actual size images | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | gotcha | 18:01 |
| yofel | fixed | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | ->sleep | 18:41 |
| ScottK | Interesting how something that is feature frozen (kdelibs) can need a newer cmake. | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 18:49 |
| Quintasan | afiestas: ping | 18:51 |
| afiestas | Quintasan: kinda busy | 18:57 |
| genii-around | Just a quick Q ... we are having some discussion on this subject in another area... Does anyone feel the "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" banner on ubuntu.com is inappropriate? I'm trying to get a feel for this | 19:04 |
| ScottK | I think it would be more appropriate on canonical.com than ubuntu.com, but that's about the same thing, so not really. | 19:07 |
| genii-around | Hm | 19:08 |
| sreich | where is this banner? | 19:09 |
| genii-around | I know some guys like Mozilla take little pokes with about:mozilla and such but I figured it would never happen with *buntu folks. | 19:10 |
| genii-around | sreich: On the main ubuntu.com page at the top. | 19:10 |
| sreich | weird..i'm not seeing it? | 19:10 |
| sreich | oh | 19:10 |
| sreich | nvm, i'm completely blind -_- | 19:10 |
| sreich | honestly i like it, microsoft, apple make the same kind of pokes anyways | 19:11 |
| * genii-around makes more coffee and contemplates | 19:12 | |
| ScottK | genii-around: Also, keep in mind that that page is done by people in Canonical marketing. The people that do Ubuntu the distro have no control over it. | 19:15 |
| genii-around | ScottK: Hah, yes. Now it begins to make more sense. | 19:16 |
| sreich | as with anything, the marketing dept controls everything ;) | 19:16 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Did you ever finish your Qt 4.8.3 backport to see how quassel works with it on 12.04? | 19:23 |
| mparillo | I have a Telepathy screenshot to replace the Kopete screen shot on the Feature Tour. Is there a guide on how to replace it? | 19:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 19:29 |
| yofel | mparillo: edit the feature-tour content page? | 19:31 |
| yofel | you can now edit it from the drupal admin interface | 19:31 |
| mparillo | yofel: Yes, thank you. I have changed the text from the admin interface to read KDE Telepathy instead of Kopete. | 19:32 |
| mparillo | yofel: But when I tried to attach my screen shot to the page, I used the URL it generated for the .png file in the IMG link, but that showed broken. And I did not see the images attached to the page either. They are stored elsewhere, in what looked like a regular file system. | 19:34 |
| yofel | mparillo: if you mean http://www.kubuntu.org/files/KDEtelepathy.png - it's there | 19:34 |
| mparillo | That's it, thanks. | 19:35 |
| mparillo | Now, they do not use full URLs, right? | 19:35 |
| yofel | take the part after srv/ in the link drupal shows | 19:36 |
| yofel | mparillo: src="/files/KDEtelepathy.png" should be enough | 19:36 |
| mparillo | yofel: Thank you. That did it. However, the image is too huge. I will try to scale it down later. | 19:40 |
| yofel | :) | 19:42 |
| * ScottK wonders where apachelogger got to? | 20:10 | |
| genii-around | ScottK: Mark just said in -release-party the marketing guys didn't run it by him first and it has now been taken down. Good call there. | 20:25 |
| yofel | still up from what I see | 20:26 |
| ScottK | Canonical's web team is infamously not speedy. | 20:27 |
| genii-around | Changed now to "Your wish is our command" | 20:42 |
| ScottK | Ah. Marketing irony. | 20:44 |
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| Riddell | evening | 21:22 |
| Riddell | any panics while I was out? | 21:22 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: dinner | 21:25 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 21:25 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: See my ping about the workspace SRU. | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | allee: with qml possibly | 21:26 |
| Riddell | random nice e-mail just arrived http://paste.kde.org/573638/ | 21:26 |
| Riddell | which I think is for everyone not just me :) | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: netbook needs further investigation | 21:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | all I did in the fixed rc was remove all plasmoids from pageone | 21:27 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. | 21:27 |
| ScottK | I see. | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | so the question which one is to blame remains | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | actually Riddell could toy with that | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | simply remove applet after applet in the bottom most containment | 21:27 |
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| Riddell | just now I can't seem to get plasma netbook to show Page One at all | 21:41 |
| Riddell | even if I log out, remove .kde and log in again it doesn't get created | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: bug 1066892 needs verification | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066892 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "initial power profiles do not use suspend support" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 | 21:53 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: in a trip, can't test much | 21:54 |
| afiestas | rm -rf the config works for me | 21:54 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 22:21 |
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