[00:56] <nixternal> I just noticed that 12.10 isn't respecting the browser I select as default in system settings. i have google-chrome as default, however when i select a link outside of chrome, it gets opened in rekonq
[00:57] <nixternal> >>> [1005 2] grep google-chrome ~/.kde/share/config/*
[00:57] <nixternal> /home/nixternal/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals:BrowserApplication=google-chrome.desktop
[00:59] <nixternal> ok, had to restart my session for that to kick in. don't know why that didn't stick during the upgrade
[00:59] <nixternal> google-chrome was my default browser in 12.04, but after the upgrade to 12.10 it reverted back to rekonq
[00:59] <nixternal> file a boog or let it go?
[01:00] <nixternal> Riddell: FYI: installation didn't ask me to make a choice between KDM & LightDM
[01:00] <nixternal> I was waiting for that step, but it never happened
[01:02] <BluesKaj> think lightdm is default in 12.10 , nixternal 
[01:04] <nixternal> I think it is as well, but in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu page that Riddell posted, it says it will ask you to choose between KDM & LightDM
[01:05] <BluesKaj> ok , understood 
[01:08] <nixternal> i need to figure out how to make lightdm fit my main screen now with a dual monitor setup. forgot how i did that with kdm
[01:08] <nixternal> and to be honest, i really don't care that much about it :)
[01:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, I don't get the change from kdm , it worked fine but it's just a greeter so it's no big deal 
[01:33] <ScottK> nixternal: I took that note out.
[01:33] <ScottK> Thanks.
[01:37] <nixternal> no prob sir, glad I could contribute a lil sumpin'
[01:38] <ScottK> We could announce the release again while Riddell's sleeping.
[01:44] <nixternal> wasn't he sleeping when he announced it originally? :p
[01:44] <nixternal> that's the whole reason I upgraded today. oh well, seems to be ok thus far, though I had my machine just shut off about an hour ago for no reason.
[01:44] <nixternal> i thought the power went out, then i realized a) this is a laptop with a battery and b) the lights are still on
[01:51] <ScottK> Kernel.  Not our fault.
[06:37] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)
[08:48] <valorie> actually, it errored out at the same place, saying that
[08:49] <valorie> E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[08:57] <shadeslayer> hah
[08:58] <shadeslayer> thanks spacetime
[08:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we haz stickers http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/IMAG0354.jpg
[08:59] <shadeslayer> for some reason my phone takes really noise photos
[09:00] <valorie> those stickers are great!
[09:00] <shadeslayer> :)
[09:00] <shadeslayer> all thanks to spacetime for getting them printed ;)
[09:01] <valorie> yay spacetime!
[09:03] <shadeslayer> spacetime: how many are these 0.o
[09:03] <shadeslayer> I count 900
[09:05]  * yofel is sure shadeslayer is raring to make some ringtail stickers too
[09:05] <shadeslayer> lol
[09:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: the fun part is that we get to write raring in our changelogs for months
[09:06] <yofel> indeed
[09:06] <yofel> at least it's easy to type :P
[09:06] <shadeslayer> :D
[09:07] <shadeslayer> would have been even more awesome if it was 'roaring'
[09:26] <Riddell> 100% ready, awooga
[10:18] <micmord> Hello, what about this? http://blogs.kde.org/2012/10/17/kubuntu-not-released-yet
[10:19] <shadeslayer> micmord: it'll be released sometime later today
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell accidentally left the published button ticked
[10:19] <smartboyhw> micmord, of course it hasn't been released on 17th............. it will be on 18th:D
[10:26] <micmord> shadeslayer: lol
[11:23] <Riddell> rar
[11:24] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you want to roar?
[11:24] <Riddell> a polite rar
[11:24] <Riddell> getting in the mood for the next six months
[11:25] <smartboyhw> Riddell, :D
[11:31] <Riddell> bah kubuntu.org is being crap, what a surprise, images not syncing
[11:32] <smartboyhw> !
[11:44] <Mamarok> did somebody find time to package the new libmygpo-qt version yet?
[11:54] <Quintasan> Mamarok: It's kind of late for quantal but I think I can get to it after maliit if it's not urgent
[11:54] <Quintasan> Hi
[11:55] <Mamarok> Quintasan: yes, I know, but it would be nice to have in the backports for it, as it will be needed for the next Amarok
[11:55] <Mamarok> not urgent at all
[11:58] <yofel> kubotu: newversion libmygpo-qt 1.0.6 http://stefan.derkits.at/files/libmygpo-qt/libmygpo-qt.1.0.6.tar.gz
[11:58] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1068078
[11:59] <Quintasan> fancy
[12:02] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:02] <Quintasan> yofel: I'm on it
[12:02] <yofel> sure, I just wanted to make sure it's not lost
[12:03] <shadeslayer> can we add SRU functionality xD
[12:03] <Quintasan> yofel: Do we put it in kubuntu-backports or apply for inclusion in Ubuntu backports?
[12:03] <shadeslayer> I don't kike filling out paperworks
[12:03] <shadeslayer> *paperwork
[12:03] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Noone does
[12:04] <Quintasan> I'd rather do packaging all day long instead of filling our sru's or other magic
[12:04] <shadeslayer> yofel: fun fact, the build lp object does not update buildstate once the build state changes
[12:04] <shadeslayer> so I get stuck with a outdated buildstate
[12:04] <yofel> do we need it in quantal *now* ? Otherwise just throw it into raring once it's open and backport as needed
[12:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I wouldn't really do packaging all day
[12:05] <Quintasan> yofel: No we don't.
[12:05] <Quintasan> >raring
[12:05] <Quintasan> ?
[12:05] <yofel> if you guys really have time go update the screenshots for the feature-tour
[12:05] <yofel> Quintasan: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1195
[12:05] <shadeslayer> yofel: new releasename
[12:05] <Quintasan> yofel: I'm asking where the backport should go :P
[12:05] <Quintasan> backport as needed implies you need to backport it somewhere
[12:06] <yofel> well, Mamarok said amarok needs it, so put it wherever you're going to backport amarok ot
[12:06] <yofel> *to
[12:06] <yofel> probably our backports first
[12:07] <Quintasan> kubuntu-backports I say
[12:07] <shadeslayer> mmm bug fix release
[12:07]  * Quintasan uploads and stores the packaging
[12:07] <shadeslayer> doesn't that warrant a SRU?
[12:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: It does
[12:07] <shadeslayer> but you don't feel like filling out paperwork? :
[12:07] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:07] <yofel> does it have a point release permission? Othewise you'll still have to review the diff
[12:08] <shadeslayer> ^
[12:08] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I'm uploading to kubuntu-backports :P
[12:08] <shadeslayer> hurrr durrr
[12:08] <Quintasan> trolololol
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you don't get one of these http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/IMAG0354.jpg
[12:09] <Quintasan> Why is that?
[12:09] <shadeslayer> because you're not SRU'ing :P
[12:09] <Quintasan> Do we have SRU things into kubuntu-backports ppa?
[12:09] <Quintasan> mother of god
[12:09] <shadeslayer> no no
[12:09] <shadeslayer> I'm saying that you should SRU libmygpo-qt
[12:09] <shadeslayer> since it's a bug fix release
[12:10] <shadeslayer> and it shouldn't be too much of a hassle
[12:10] <Quintasan> quantal repos just closed
[12:10] <Quintasan> give em a week or something
[12:10] <shadeslayer> right
[12:10] <shadeslayer> I didn't mean right away ;)
[12:11] <Riddell> SRUs need a good reason to get in, known bugs which it fixes
[12:11] <Riddell> and fixes in a verifiable way
[12:11] <Quintasan> I had something similar sitting in my head but I didn't want to spew information I'm not certain of.
[12:12] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: no changelog on website of course xD
[12:13] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: any particular reason libmygpo-qt should be updated via SRU?
[12:13] <shadeslayer> or should we just put it in backports
[12:14] <yofel> uhm, we were talking about backports in the first place
[12:14] <Quintasan> That's shadeslayer we're talking about :P
[12:14] <shadeslayer> right, but the question is if it fixes criticla bugs that would warrant a SRU
[12:14] <Quintasan> Do we even have any bugs reported against it?
[12:15] <shadeslayer> *critical
[12:15] <yofel> 0 bugs on LP
[12:15] <Quintasan> lemme look at the bugzilla
[12:15] <Quintasan> 2 bugs on their buzilla
[12:16] <yofel> otherwise here: https://github.com/gpodder/libmygpo-qt/commits/master
[12:16]  * yofel goes back to work
[12:16] <shadeslayer> I'm just making sure we're not in the dark about some critical bug that Mamarok knows about ;)
[12:16] <Quintasan> Nothing interesting there as well
[12:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer, yofel, Riddell: uploading to kubuntu-backports in 2 minutes if I don't have anyone against it.
[12:17] <shadeslayer> fine by me :)
[12:18] <Quintasan> I almost did not test build additional time
[12:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://github.com/gpodder/libmygpo-qt/compare/1.0.5...1.0.6
[12:19] <shadeslayer> <3 github
[12:20] <Quintasan> oh waut
[12:20] <Quintasan> new symbols!
[12:20] <shadeslayer> yep
[12:20] <Quintasan> just additions
[12:20] <shadeslayer> I was about to say that after looking at the diff ;)
[12:20] <shadeslayer> yep
[12:24] <skaet> Riddell,  its looking like the Kubuntu images are pretty much tested out and ready to go,  could you sign off by adding the date in the "testing sign-off column"  on the manifest?  (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseManifest)
[12:24] <Riddell> what do you think guys?  shall I sign off?
[12:25]  * Quintasan testbuilds
[12:25] <Riddell> (guys in the gender neutral sense)
[12:25] <skaet> ;)
[12:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: I did some testing and I was generally happy with the results, installers were a little bit slow but I blame it on the VM
[12:26]  * smartboyhw thinks Riddell should sign it off
[12:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: +1
[12:26] <Quintasan> the desktop after install was well, normal, nothing special there
[12:27] <Quintasan> so, +1 on sign off
[12:27] <ScottK> Riddell: +1
[12:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: your wiki page needs updating ;)
[12:28] <smartboyhw> :)
[12:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I think I'll save that for another day
[12:29] <shadeslayer> "D
[12:29] <shadeslayer> :D
[12:29] <smartboyhw> XD
[12:29] <shadeslayer> gosh, I'm making all sorts of silly typos today
[12:30] <Quintasan> oh wait
[12:30] <Riddell> skaet: voila
[12:30] <Quintasan> I'm dumb
[12:30] <Quintasan> I marked it as fix released where I uploaded it only to backports
[12:30] <skaet> Riddell,    merci beaucoup!  
[12:30] <Quintasan> any time for R repos to open?
[12:31] <Quintasan> yofel: Which screenshots need to be updated?
[12:31] <yofel> most are ok, if possible replace kopete with ktp
[12:31] <Quintasan> Sure
[12:31] <Quintasan> let me go to VM
[12:31] <yofel> I'm not sure how that water-mirror effect was done though
[12:32] <yofel> s/water-//
[12:32] <kubotu> yofel meant: "I'm not sure how that mirror effect was done though"
[12:38] <yofel> not sure when the repos is open, at least https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Raring-changes already exists
[12:53] <Quintasan> Lemme blur out contact info
[12:54] <Quintasan> ...
[12:55] <Quintasan> is there something like brush tool in krita?
[12:56] <Quintasan> da hell is this crap
[12:57] <Quintasan> why do we provide something saying digital paiting and I can't find a damn brush tool anywhere
[12:57] <Riddell> any thoughts for a tagline to use on the banner image?
[13:00] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can you look into Bug #1066582 ?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:02] <smartboyhw> Hi BluesKaj 
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hey smartboyhw
[13:03] <Quintasan> Quintasan can't into Krita
[13:04] <Quintasan> yofel: Can you take a screenshot of dragon player playing something?
[13:05] <yofel> not until I get home (i.e. in up to 4h)
[13:12] <Quintasan> yofel, Riddell: Here are dem KTP images http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/
[13:12] <Quintasan> I think I might have overdone it with the blurring
[13:13] <yofel> nah, they're ok IMO, question is how that mirror effect was done. But that's better than having Kopete on the page
[13:14] <Riddell> with screenie?
[13:16] <Riddell> here's a question, our download page currently says 32-bit recommended, should we recommend 64-bit now?
[13:17] <shadeslayer> well
[13:17] <shadeslayer> the major question would be flash
[13:17] <Riddell> just as good on 64-bit these days
[13:17] <shadeslayer> then imo it shouldn't really be an issue
[13:18] <shadeslayer> with the advent of multiarch you can install i386 libs on amd64
[13:18] <Riddell> I think the reason for 32 is it works on all PCs while 64-bit won't work on older/cheaper
[13:18] <shadeslayer> right
[13:18] <shadeslayer> the question is, does anyone have those old machines which still only run 32 bit archs
[13:19] <Riddell> my netbook is 32 bit only
[13:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: about bug 1066582, can you check what Account Details > Path > Download Path says?
[13:19] <Riddell> and yes of course people will, but are they aware of it I wonder
[13:20] <yofel> my eeePC is 32bit only as well
[13:20] <shadeslayer> imo the right way to approach it would be, "Do you have more than 4 GB's of RAM? Yes? Install the 64 bit iso, for everything else, 32 bit is fine "
[13:20] <yofel> shadeslayer: if you mean the default folder settings, that was set to Downloads I believe. I'll recheck later
[13:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: only without PAE, with that you usually get up to 64GiB
[13:21] <shadeslayer> sigh, I thought all processors had 64 bit capabilities now
[13:21] <yofel> at least on my i7 PAE is 36bit adress width
[13:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: people who have 64 GB's of RAM most certainly know what to do without thinking twice :p
[13:23] <yofel> also, 32bit does use a bit less memory, and has no multiarch issues
[13:23] <yofel> so IMO keep 32bit the default
[13:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: tried that apparently neither amarok nor tomahawk apparently cares, will have to do it myself it appears
[13:27] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw did you get a chance to try the workspace from my ppa?
[13:33] <apachelogger> bug 1039261
[13:38] <shadeslayer> wasn't that fixed?
[13:38] <apachelogger> not for precise :P
[13:38] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[13:39] <shadeslayer> for some reason synaptiks works just fine here
[13:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can I force overwrite firefox github repo
[13:42] <shadeslayer> I messed it up with ff 16 :(
[13:42]  * apachelogger sighs
[13:42] <apachelogger> fix your repo
[13:42] <shadeslayer> https://github.com/shadeslayer/firefox-kde is what I suggest
[13:42] <apachelogger> or forcepush, it is not like i care in particular
[13:43] <shadeslayer> forcepush is what I'm thinking, but we lose all history
[13:43] <apachelogger> as if it matters
[13:43] <shadeslayer> aye
[13:43] <apachelogger> no clue why you need a force push though
[13:43] <apachelogger> point being: learn to use git.
[13:43] <shadeslayer> I know, I just messed it up this time :(
[13:48] <ScottK> apachelogger: Not yet.
[13:52] <apachelogger> raring?
[13:52] <apachelogger> seriously
[13:52] <apachelogger> Oo
[13:53]  * ScottK wanted roasted
[13:53] <shadeslayer> roasted rump? :P
[13:54] <ScottK> rabbit
[13:55] <apachelogger> ScottK: quantal-proposed upload for bug 1066892 incoming
[13:57] <shadeslayer> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[13:57] <shadeslayer> ISO release page is up it seems
[14:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ssh, it's a secret
[14:02] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:02] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I will tell EVERYBODY in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:02] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: um please don't
[14:03] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)
[14:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I will;P
[14:04] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you did, even though it's not released yet
[14:04] <shadeslayer> sigh
[14:04] <smartboyhw> sigh
[14:06] <shadeslayer> that channel is insanely active, so hopefully that link would have scrolled past by for most people
[14:07] <apachelogger> sigh
[14:10] <cmagina>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[14:10] <cmagina> not sure why that wasn't a command, must need more coffee
[14:11] <Riddell> an extra space
[14:11] <cmagina> ah, yeah, i see it
[14:12] <jjesse> is #ubuntu-release-party where i go and spam "is it out yet" "is it out yet"
[14:13] <cmagina> thanks for a great release everyone, been a pretty smooth ride since alpha
[14:13] <Riddell> cmagina: it's not out yet!
[14:13] <Riddell> jjesse: yes that's the one
[14:13] <cmagina> it will be soon :)
[14:14] <jjesse> the page scrolls way to fast, but i assume thats what is going to be asked 
[14:16] <apachelogger> I totally don't get that channel
[14:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's a fun community thing
[14:16] <jjesse> yeah i don't understand it eithe r:)
[14:17] <apachelogger> <<-- not social enough
[14:17] <Riddell> there's not much to understand, marcel proust it is not
[14:21] <shadeslayer> http://i.imgur.com/UrBPd.png < it's alive :D
[14:22] <yofel> shadeslayer++
[14:22] <shadeslayer> I'm just testing it now to check if it actually does show notifications once the package starts building
[14:23] <shadeslayer> so it should go something like : i386 build of KDevelop started!!!
[14:24] <apachelogger> hm
[14:25] <apachelogger> more notifications
[14:25] <apachelogger> that's what we need
[14:25] <apachelogger> :P
[14:27] <apachelogger> allee: pingpingpingping
[14:28] <apachelogger> bambee: pingpingping
[14:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it was getting annoying to refresh build pages :P
[14:31] <ScottK> Riddell: Quote for you from #u-r-p: "haggis is the new bacon" - I've no idea the context.
[14:32] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:32] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 368061 is impossible is it not?
[14:32] <apachelogger> well, installation-wise
[14:32] <ScottK> It is.
[14:32] <shadeslayer> ScottK: started with : [19:57:33] <TheHaggisBeast> HAGGIS FTW!
[14:34] <Riddell> now I'm tempted to buy one of the lovely haggis pizzas for tea this evening
[14:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: isn't that in direct conflict with bug 1066225
[14:34] <bambee> apachelogger: pongpongpong
[14:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes-no
[14:34] <shadeslayer> if you encrypt your home folder, you should not be allowed to choose autologin and hence the radio button makes sense
[14:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: turns out that bug argues that it should be visually apparent that encryption only is possible iff one does not use auto-login
[14:35] <apachelogger> which makes sense
[14:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no it does not
[14:35] <apachelogger> it does not visually indicate the requirements
[14:35] <shadeslayer> oh so you want to make it a checkbox, but disable it on auto login?
[14:35] <apachelogger> (*) autologin
[14:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: See the screen shot of the Ubuntu installer.
[14:35] <apachelogger> ( ) login
[14:35] <apachelogger>     [ ] encrypt home
[14:36] <ScottK> The way they do it make it very clear what goes with what.
[14:36] <ScottK> Yes.  Like that.
[14:36] <shadeslayer> ahhhh
[14:36] <ScottK> I thought 1066225 was kind of bogus until I saw the screen shot.
[14:36] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: same here
[14:38] <apachelogger> bug 542856
[14:38] <apachelogger> we really need some policy on desktop files
[14:38] <apachelogger> right now we often have them in a -data package which screws epically with all sorts of software
[14:41] <apachelogger> ScottK: what do we do with bug 876399
[14:42] <vista_killer> nice work with the 12.10 i have just upgrade
[14:42] <vista_killer> gz :)!!
[14:42] <apachelogger> totally valid and stuff, but that would potentially downgrade startup of setups that don't need that crap
[14:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: If it's a good fix, upload it.  People can still use kdm if they want.
[14:42] <apachelogger> (FWIW: lightdm also does not do it)
[14:42] <ScottK> Maybe now that we have lightdm by default, that's ok.
[14:43] <Riddell> thanks vista_killer 
[14:43] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, if we let that kdm change in one could argue that lightdm should also be able to take network into account, seeing as lightdm is now default ;)
[14:43] <vista_killer> you welcome :)
[14:44] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'd suggest the opposite.  Lightdm is for the ~common case and if you need the networky stuff, use kdm.
[14:44] <apachelogger> actually I think my question is: if we don't let it in, what would be a good way to allow for people to still enable that feature
[14:45] <apachelogger> because... perhaps it would be more general a solution to simply have two upstart configs, and the admin can decide which one to use
[14:45] <ScottK> How does one switch?
[14:45] <yofel> document it how people can set that themselves? should just be adding an override
[14:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: alternatives
[14:46] <apachelogger> all of dm stuff is handled via alternatives
[14:46] <ScottK> alternatives are between packages, not within one though.
[14:46] <ScottK> IIRC
[14:46] <apachelogger> can be latter unless I misremember things
[14:46] <apachelogger> anywho, so you have a package upstart-kdm-network for example
[14:46] <yofel> one could ship more in a package as long as it's properly set up in postinst
[14:46] <apachelogger> which contains only the upstart config
[14:47] <apachelogger> which actually makes it even more accessible as you then get a nice prompt when installing that additional package
[14:47] <apachelogger> "which dm do you want to use..."
[14:47]  * apachelogger has a which problem
[14:47] <apachelogger> bambee: whatever happened to userconfig getting into kde? and going c++? and stuff?
[14:48] <apachelogger> also polkit ^^
[14:48] <yofel> what's wrong with polkit?
[14:48] <yofel> or was it supposed to get a new UI?
[14:48] <apachelogger> userconfig doesn't use it
[14:48] <yofel> ah
[14:49] <ScottK> Riddell: You aren't the only one to publish early: http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1210-breaks-down-barrier-between-pc-and-web
[14:52] <Riddell> ScottK: so easy to do, missing those pre-ticked boxes
[14:52] <ScottK> Apparently that one doesn't actually say it's released.
[14:59] <apachelogger> yofel, Riddell: I cannot reproduce bug 1066861
[15:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: really?
[15:00] <Riddell> that's surprising
[15:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: live system?
[15:01] <apachelogger> it only happens on live?
[15:01] <apachelogger> Oo
[15:01] <allee> apachelogger: pong
[15:02] <apachelogger> allee: any other digikam bugs that may be SRUable?
[15:07] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)
[15:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: with network or without?
[15:09] <apachelogger> what graphics driver?
[15:09] <Riddell> intel, probably without network
[15:09] <apachelogger> started into netbook or desktop and then swichted to netbook?
[15:09] <apachelogger> also i386?
[15:09] <Riddell> I only have a i386 netbook
[15:09] <Riddell> from a newly installed quantal image
[15:10]  * apachelogger tries with today's snapshot of i386
[15:10] <apachelogger> unfortunately I do not have my netbook here
[15:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you still reproduce it in the install?
[15:10] <Riddell> yep
[15:11] <apachelogger> curious enough
[15:11] <ScottK> Riddell: Does https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-kubuntu-ubiquity-other need a session at UDS?
[15:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you have time to try something right now?
[15:11]  * ScottK thinks we should accept it.
[15:12] <Riddell> ScottK: yes, especially if xnox can come
[15:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: could do
[15:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: first please paste your plasma-netbook-appletsrc
[15:12] <apachelogger> plasma-netbookrc too
[15:12] <ScottK> OK.
[15:13] <apachelogger> bulldog98: didn't you want to redo ubiquity in qml?
[15:13] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  Done.  Would you please make yourself essential on that one.
[15:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-netbookrc
[15:16] <Riddell> http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-netbook-appletsrc
[15:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: forbidden
[15:18] <Riddell> apachelogger: try now
[15:18] <shadeslayer> w00t
[15:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://i.imgur.com/T6CTD.png
[15:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: did you run a full plasma-netbook session or just run plasma-netbook binary from a desktop session?
[15:20] <apachelogger> latter, it was an older build though
[15:21] <ScottK> We should probably make some specs for UDS.
[15:21] <Riddell> ScottK: I wasn't going to think about that until we were released :)
[15:21] <ScottK> OK.
[15:22] <Riddell> but don't let me put you off
[15:22] <ScottK> Except once we release you probably won't be able to get to the data center to do it.
[15:22] <Riddell> a postponed-review session would be good
[15:22] <ScottK> Well, I'm allegedly doing $work ATM.
[15:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287092/
[15:23] <apachelogger> appletsrc that is
[15:27] <apachelogger> bleh
[15:27] <apachelogger> usb-creator once again seems broken
[15:27] <apachelogger> -.-
[15:27] <ScottK> Works here just fine.
[15:27] <apachelogger> doesn't enable the bottom 2 options for me
[15:27] <ScottK> The ones about persistence?
[15:28] <apachelogger> aye
[15:29] <ScottK> Hmm.  Fine here.
[15:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: that makes the issue go away
[15:29] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: that looks nice, how does it know what builds it should notify you about?
[15:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you supply the ppa's to monitor :)
[15:30] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: want a test?
[15:30] <Quintasan> supply neon ppa
[15:30] <Quintasan> xD
[15:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://paste.kde.org/573410/
[15:30] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:30] <shadeslayer> test it yourself :P
[15:31] <Quintasan> put it into kubuntu-dev-tools
[15:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's going to go into lptools :P
[15:32] <shadeslayer> I fear a 10 second poll interval is too little however
[15:32] <Quintasan> indeed
[15:32] <shadeslayer> should probably make it one minute
[15:32] <Quintasan> change it to like 2 minutes
[15:32] <Quintasan> publishing also takes time
[15:32] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:33] <ScottK> shadeslayer: 100 milliseconds is a good poll interval. LP will appreciate the stress test.
[15:33] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[15:33] <Quintasan> admin will kill us ScottK
[15:33] <shadeslayer> ^
[15:33] <Quintasan> not like we are already using tons of space wiht Project Neon
[15:33] <Quintasan> :P
[15:34] <shadeslayer> anywho, right now the poll interval is something like 10.1 seconds
[15:34] <Quintasan> set it to 2 minutes
[15:34] <Quintasan> and we should be L
[15:34] <Quintasan> K*
[15:34]  * shadeslayer downloads 12.10 to server to seed it
[15:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: any change with that rc?
[15:39] <allee> apachelogger: Bug 1011211   I think wie should  s/konqueror/rekonq | www-browser/
[15:39] <shadeslayer> oh man
[15:39] <shadeslayer> I love this script
[15:39] <shadeslayer> I don't even have to check the page now :D
[15:39] <shadeslayer> and I know kdevelop i386 built
[15:39] <apachelogger> allee: it may actually require kfmclient, which at some point was part of konqueror
[15:39] <allee> apachelogger: AFAIR it was needed to displya the results.  Now when I tried flickr with digikam 2.8 immediately  chrome (my default browser poped up)
[15:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: poll of 100ms I also recommend
[15:40] <apachelogger> allee: that's what kfmclient would do ;)
[15:40] <apachelogger> though kfmclient is a deprecated way to do it, so I should hope it does not use it ^^
[15:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'll set the script to identify itself as "Harald Sitter's test script"
[15:41] <shadeslayer> though I guess that'll do no good since I have to supply login credentials
[15:41] <allee> I have no flickr account so I'm not sure what happens after authentification
[15:41] <allee> apachelogger: grep -Ri kfm in flickr source found nothing
[15:42] <shadeslayer> I am also certain that there'll be a hourly limit on API calls from a user
[15:42] <allee> apachelogger: it uses invokeBrowser(url.url())
[15:42] <apachelogger> and what does that do?
[15:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: lol
[15:43] <allee> apachelogger: open the browswer that configured in kde system settings
[15:43] <apachelogger> allee: I mean codewise ^^
[15:43] <apachelogger> so this is fun
[15:44] <shadeslayer> and if you want to run stress tests, try opening https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+packages
[15:44] <allee> apachelogger: it opens a browser to login to flickr.  Then one should 'click'  continue button.  But I've no account to test
[15:44] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/573422/
[15:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please explain that to me
[15:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: explain what?
[15:45] <apachelogger> allee: I mean the function invokeBrowser
[15:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: why there be an applet that upstream does not have
[15:45] <shadeslayer> huh?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> I have no idea what you're talking about
[15:46] <shadeslayer> whooo script segfaults when there are a large number of packages
[15:46] <shadeslayer> so utterly uses on neon
[15:46] <allee> apachelogger: my guess maybe t's plasma active addon not plasma addon 
[15:46] <apachelogger> debian/patches/kubuntu_01_news_applet_name.diff:+X-KDE-PluginInfo-Name=org.kde.news-qml
[15:47] <apachelogger> YOU GOT TO BE FING KIDING ME
[15:47] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:47] <shadeslayer> kubuntu-default-settings has loads of crap
[15:47] <shadeslayer> hidden 
[15:47]  * apachelogger slaps Riddell with an intel tablet
[15:47] <shadeslayer> we need to clean it next cycle
[15:47] <apachelogger>   * Add kubuntu_01_news_applet_name.diff revert name of News plasmoid,
[15:47] <apachelogger>     prevents broken widget on Kubuntu Active workspace LP: #1046437
[15:48] <apachelogger> your kickass solution here breaks it for fing netbook
[15:48] <Riddell> doh
[15:48] <apachelogger> how do you even get the idea that changing a plugin name is a good idea? :'(
[15:48]  * apachelogger needs to go out for a bit
[15:49] <Riddell> it's what active expects :(
[15:49] <shadeslayer> fun fun fun
[15:50] <shadeslayer> python crashes if I start more than 3-4 threads one after the other
[15:50] <shadeslayer> adding a 1 second delay in between removes said crash
[15:50] <shadeslayer> *giggle*
[16:01] <shadeslayer> I have a steady 2 MBps upload speed on the i386 + amd64 torrents @_@
[16:03] <Riddell> how's this? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download2
[16:04] <shadeslayer> why do we recommend 32 bit for 12.10 but 64 bit for 12.04?
[16:04] <Riddell> we recomment 32bit on the 12.04 download page
[16:04] <shadeslayer> wait
[16:04] <shadeslayer> wait
[16:05] <shadeslayer> it says 12.10 LTS
[16:05] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:05] <genii-around> Heh
[16:05] <Riddell> where?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/16W4U.png
[16:05] <Riddell> ooh
[16:06] <Riddell> rekonq's search function doesn't find text in buttons :)
[16:08] <genii-around> If those are the only choices why are they in a dropdown?
[16:09] <Riddell> mostly historical
[16:09] <genii-around> Aaah
[16:10] <allee> apachelogger: Maybe kipi-plugins should just recommend www-browser not konqueror just like digikam
[16:11] <allee> digikam also recommends mplayerthumbs but this pkg seem not to exist (and I have multiverse enabled)
[16:13] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:13] <shadeslayer> iirc there used to be a channel for preseeders
[16:13] <ScottK> allee: Is that kdegraphics-thumbnailers now?
[16:14] <allee> ScottK: not sure.  I'm trying to find out ...
[16:14] <apachelogger> allee: it existed at some point
[16:14] <ScottK> mplayerthumbs existed through precise.
[16:14] <apachelogger> ScottK: no, mplayerthumbs is in multimedia
[16:15] <apachelogger> not graphics
[16:15] <ScottK> Oh.
[16:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: also is a recommends change valid for a SRU?
[16:15] <apachelogger> (in addition to more reasonable stuff)
[16:15] <ScottK> Possibly.
[16:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: sorry if I was a bit harsh earlier
[16:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: no you weren't
[16:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: that plasmoid is a completely different thing btw
[16:16] <apachelogger> part of declarative-plasmoids
[16:16] <apachelogger> which we have not packaged :S
[16:17] <apachelogger> so what we perhaps should do is ... revert the change to addons and bundle declarative-plasmoids in plasma-mobile
[16:18] <Riddell> yeah that seems reasonable
[16:18] <apachelogger> !find kfmclient
[16:19] <apachelogger> allee: I am reasonable certain that invokeBrowser uses kfmclient
[16:21] <apachelogger> looking at code right now
[16:23] <allee> apachelogger: I've purged konqueror (so kfmclient is no longer there).  digikam still opens chrome with flickr client
[16:23] <apachelogger> yeah
[16:23] <apachelogger> it is tricky code
[16:23] <apachelogger> so
[16:23] <apachelogger> what happens is... it will try to get the configured default browser
[16:23] <apachelogger> and use that
[16:24] <apachelogger> if there is none it will try to use whatever is assciated with text/html
[16:24] <apachelogger> no direct kfmclient usage though
[16:24] <apachelogger> so I think we are fine
[16:24] <shadeslayer> alright, all major ISO's seeding
[16:25] <allee> apachelogger: so recommends: rekonq | www-browser  or only recommends www-browser like digikam
[16:25] <apachelogger> allee: so flickr plugins uses that?
[16:25] <apachelogger> that = invokebrowser
[16:26] <allee> apachelogger: yes, opens flickr login page. 
[16:26] <apachelogger> also only www-browser would the way to go
[16:26] <allee> as very first action
[16:27]  * apachelogger has language issues
[16:29] <ScottK> We know.
[16:29] <ScottK> ;-)
[16:29] <shadeslayer> and here I thought you had apachelogger issues
[16:30] <allee> apachelogger: as long as by default dolphin does not produce video icons, I think it's okay if digikam does not too.  (IMHO I would like to have a opposite default, but I use quite powerful HW)
[16:30] <ScottK> No.  I have lots of issued, but noe that kind.
[16:41] <allee> apachelogger: core/README say video icosn delagate to KDE.  Please install ffmpegthumbs pkg.  If this still is what KDE uses we should  s/mplayerthumbs/ffmpegthumbs/
[16:41] <apachelogger> allee: technically speaking nepomuk should provide those :P
[16:42] <apachelogger> allee: we have both mplayerthmubs and ffmpegthumbs  upstream IIRC
[16:42] <apachelogger> on a technical level it does not matter which one is installed as digikam does nto interact with them directly anyway
[16:43] <apachelogger> so if we have ffmpegthumbs in the archive and no mplayerthumbs I assume a change would be in order ;)
[16:43] <allee> apachelogger: :-)
[16:44] <apachelogger> allee: bug 1011211 also fixable for precise?
[16:44] <apachelogger> digikam 2.5 IIRC
[16:44] <allee> I'll check if this really fixes the problem, becaues ffmpegthumbnailer is installed here, but dolphin does not let me confiigure video thumbs (and I assume dolphin used KDE video icon method too)
[16:47] <apachelogger> allee: bug allee: if you find 
[16:47] <apachelogger> eh
[16:47] <apachelogger> allee: bug 1068220
[16:48] <apachelogger> oh, and if you find more stuff also add that there and a comment to the bug as to whether it can be fixed for 2.5 and 2.8 etc.
[16:49] <allee> apachelogger: at least in my bug e-mail folder there are no more digikam bugs that I found worth keeping.  If I'll find the time I check launchpad list
[16:50] <apachelogger> allee: as a matter of fact, perhaps gilles knows about a major issue in 2.5 that he might want to have fixed to silence upstream bug reports
[16:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: any update on the freeze thing with new rc file?
[16:53]  * apachelogger actually should go have something to eat
[16:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't understand, freeze thing with new rc file?
[17:02] <xnox> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes?os=kubuntu&ver=12.10&lang=en is broken...
[17:03] <ScottK> Riddell: He wanted you to try the page one thing with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287092/
[17:06] <ScottK> xnox: I don't think we can fix it here.
[17:06] <Riddell> 16:29 < Riddell> apachelogger: that makes the issue go away
[17:07] <allee> apachelogger: ffmpegthumgs was not enough.  I had to install kffmpegthumbs to get video icons in dolphin and digikam
[17:08] <xnox> ScottK: hmmm well it's a simply redirect and it will go wherever you want it to go.... for ubuntu it goes to the wiki.
[17:08] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[17:08] <allee> apachelogger: I'm sure the phenominals better know what the default KDE method for video icons is
[17:09] <Riddell> xnox: it goes to the release announcement which isn't published yet since we haven't released yet
[17:09] <Riddell> but it will be
[17:10] <xnox> Riddell: we did release.
[17:11] <xnox> Riddell: =))) unless somehow ubuntu != kubuntu released.
[17:11] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1013626] systemsettings crashed with ImportError in /usr/share/kde4/apps/language-selector/language... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013626 (by Xavier Besnard)
[17:11] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)
[17:12] <Riddell> xnox: where?
[17:12] <tsimpson> xnox: to be fair, there hasn't been an announcement yet
[17:13] <tsimpson> Riddell: ubuntu.com main page
[17:13] <Riddell> hum
[17:13] <Riddell> well time to publish then
[17:14] <yofel> xnox: y'know, a mail to ubuntu-announce would've been nice :/ - usually people say to please wait on that
[17:15] <xnox> yofel: the person who sends those announcements was waiting on the website to go live.
[17:15] <tsimpson> they could just be publishing everything so when they announce it's all ready
[17:15]  * xnox can't email announce btw.
[17:15] <yofel> xnox: well, and we were waiting for the announcement to make our page go live
[17:15] <xnox> tsimpson: well mirrors were syncing up for the past two hours now. now there is enough capacity the website is up.
[17:15] <yofel> so *someone* needs to switch priorities
[17:16] <xnox> yofel: ok. as long as the release-notes link will work when you do
[17:16] <xnox> =)
[17:16] <yofel> :)
[17:16] <yofel> "Avoid the pain of Windows 8." - hehehehe
[17:16]  * xnox assumed that all websites flip at the same time. sorry.
[17:17] <david_> just installed Quantual Beta on a brand new machine completely fresh. Very impressed. 
[17:17] <Riddell> d_ed: thanks :)
[17:17] <d_ed> aha, nickname back - that's better.
[17:17] <Riddell> but beta is old
[17:18] <yofel> xnox: nah, thanks for telling us that it's released ;)
[17:18] <d_ed> well, whatever the latest ISO was 2 days ago.
[17:19] <ScottK> Riddell: You might want to update the time on the news posting.  It says it's from yesterday.
[17:19] <xnox> d_ed: we did spins ~24h ago.
[17:19] <ScottK> Congratulation everyone.
[17:19] <d_ed> oh.. you've actually released - I'm so slow
[17:19] <xnox> not all.
[17:19] <shadeslayer> \o/
[17:19] <ScottK> Not Kubuntu.
[17:19] <d_ed> I was travelling, that's my excuse.
[17:19] <shadeslayer> mck182 is having issues though
[17:19] <d_ed> he's always having issues.
[17:19] <ScottK> Back to $work.
[17:19] <yofel> ScottK: well, that's drupal's fault :(
[17:19] <yofel> (the time)
[17:19] <d_ed> one comment (and I'm not sure which bug to file this under)
[17:20] <yofel> hm
[17:20]  * yofel goes digging through the settings
[17:20] <d_ed> fresh install of Kubuntu, appears in Grub as "Ubuntu"
[17:20] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:20] <yofel> d_ed: that's same for all, and has always been. Now it's just missing the kernel version
[17:20] <d_ed> I'm sure you used to have it write the 'correct' name out in the list?
[17:20] <d_ed> oh, ok.
[17:20] <d_ed> long time since I've dual booted
[17:20] <Riddell> ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/
[17:20] <yofel> but yeah, it's supposed to be just ubuntu now
[17:21] <shadeslayer> d_ed: you mean like 'Rohan' ?
[17:21] <mparillo> yofel, ScottK: The time on the posting is a feature. It tells when it was created, and if you do not check the publish button for a couple of days, it will remind you that it was sitting unpublished for a couple of days.
[17:21] <yofel> \o/
[17:21] <d_ed> \o/ !
[17:22] <shadeslayer> hahah, "Avoid the pain of W8"
[17:22] <mparillo> Congratulations, and it looks as if time on the news posting is fixed.
[17:22] <d_ed> shadeslayer: hmm?
 I'm sure you used to have it write the 'correct' name out in the list?
[17:23] <Riddell> is this still needed in  the #kubuntu topic? "Kmail users read this before upgrading: http://bit.ly/o841iy"
[17:24] <allee> apachelogger: ah my top 2 phonen questions : Seeing the all those 'portrait videothumbs reminds me, will phonon support rotation during runtime?  And maybe even slow/fast moting
[17:24] <d_ed> ah :)
[17:24] <Riddell> thanks for your help on release ScottK , skaet , yofel , apachelogger , shadeslayer 
[17:24] <yofel> Riddell: not really, that was up til precise. Now it won't matter
[17:24] <ScottK> Riddell: Upgrades from 12.04 -> 12.10 should be fine.
[17:24] <allee> s/moting/motion
[17:24] <ScottK> (re kmail)
[17:25] <ScottK> Maybe make it limited to "upgrading to 12.04.
[17:25] <genii-around> There have been maybe 3-4 cases I've seen since 12.04 came out where the kmail link was needed
[17:26]  * Quintasan celebrates
[17:26] <Quintasan> Where is my beer
[17:26] <shadeslayer> in the cloud
[17:27] <Quintasan> :/
[17:27]  * Quintasan goes to the kitchen
[17:27]  * Riddell runs out for a bit
[17:30]  * genii-around slides Quintasan that beer
[17:30] <Quintasan> genii-around: oy, thanks mate
[17:30] <yofel> kubotu: order beer for everyone
[17:30]  * kubotu is going to his secret storehouse to get beer for everyone - might take some time.
[17:30]  * kubotu is back and slides beer down the bar to everyone
[17:31] <Quintasan> now I've got three of them!
[17:31] <genii-around> yofel: Hah, nice!
[17:31] <yofel> ok, announce out on identi.ca too
[17:31] <shadeslayer> brrrr
[17:31] <shadeslayer> someone forgot to change torrent links to quantal
[17:32] <yofel> oops ^^
[17:32]  * shadeslayer is fixing
[17:35] <mparillo> Should I remove the Beta-2 from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu ?
[17:35] <ScottK> apachelogger: Do you want to fix the plasma-netbookrc and reupload your workspace SRU before I accept the power profiles fix?
[17:36] <yofel> mparillo: yes
[17:37] <yofel> mparillo: and the "12.10 LTS" should be "12.10" ^^
[17:37] <shadeslayer> can someone just double check "Get Kubuntu" ?
[17:38] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Both torrent links work now
[17:41] <mparillo> yofel: Good catch. 12.10 LTS is simply 12.10, and Beta-2 is removed.
[17:43] <genii-around> shadeslayer: "/kubuntu/releases/12.10/release/kubuntu-12.10-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4.img.gz was not found on this server."
[17:44] <skaet> Riddell,  ScottK, and rest of Kubuntu team,   Congratulations on getting Kubuntu 12.10 released!  :)
[17:44] <shadeslayer> genii-around: try now?
[17:45] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Works now
[17:45] <shadeslayer> cool
[17:46] <genii-around> And Kubuntu-Active link is good too
[17:47] <shadeslayer> awesomeness
[17:48] <shadeslayer> sigh, I think this needs more firefighting
[17:48] <shadeslayer> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release
[17:48] <shadeslayer> clicking on the images gives a 404
[17:48] <shadeslayer> not sure how that's even possible
[17:49] <shadeslayer> well .. http://www.kubuntu.org/files/ubiquity-partitioner-wee.png is 404
[17:50] <genii-around> 64bit torrent file has some issue, says can't locate tracker
[17:50] <genii-around> Restarted it now, seems OK
[17:50] <yofel> that always happens...
[17:50] <shadeslayer> genii-around: works fine on my VPS
[17:50] <shadeslayer> right
[17:50] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:51] <shadeslayer> wheee .. we get 400 free stickers
[17:51] <shadeslayer> thanks to spacetime
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> !info kdbg natty-backports
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> !info kdbg natty
[17:51] <yofel> put some in an envelope and send them to me pretty please >.>
[17:52]  * spacetime hopes you liked em :)
[17:52] <shadeslayer> :D
[17:52] <yofel> JontheEchidna: natty had no kdbg because 2.5 didn't make it in time for release
[17:53]  * shadeslayer fixes links
[17:53] <JontheEchidna> was it backported later? My dad seems to think so
[17:53] <JontheEchidna> he sent me this email: http://paste.kde.org/573554/
[17:53] <yofel> hm, I believe I at least put it in the PPA... maybe someone just purged everything
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> So I'm wondering if I should tell him to try upgrading to a newer Kubuntu, or just reply that I use gdb myself :P
[17:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: Don't ask me how that happened, but the filenames don't match for the images
[17:56] <yofel> I'll try to fix it
[17:56] <shadeslayer> because they got renamed to foo-wee
[17:56] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:56] <shadeslayer> I fixed ktp and the installer
[17:56] <d_ed> I assume the -wee suffix was added to imply it's a thumbnail. And then the originals were never uploaded
[17:56] <shadeslayer> aye
[17:56] <d_ed> "wee" is scottish for "small"
[17:56] <shadeslayer> I know
[17:56] <d_ed> oh, you clearly know scottish.
[17:57] <maco> we know riddell
[17:57] <shadeslayer> ^
[17:57] <JontheEchidna> oha: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/kubuntu-ppa_backports/natty/main/base/kdbg
[17:57] <yofel> shadeslayer: wait, are you editing the page now? We probably shouldn't both do that
[17:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: I'm not editing it right now, I was editing it about 20 seconds ago
[17:57] <d_ed> shadeslayer: I have never heard an indian-scottish accent..that would be amazing. Work on it
[17:57] <shadeslayer> xD
[17:57] <yofel> ok, then I'll edit it now
[17:57] <shadeslayer> cool
[18:00] <yofel> shadeslayer: the links aren't supposed to use wee, instead some images are already there, so drupal added _<num>
[18:00] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:01] <shadeslayer> so the images are supposed to open the actual size images
[18:01] <shadeslayer> gotcha
[18:03] <yofel> fixed
[18:41] <shadeslayer> ->sleep
[18:46] <ScottK> Interesting how something that is feature frozen (kdelibs) can need a newer cmake.
[18:49] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:51] <Quintasan> afiestas: ping
[18:57] <afiestas> Quintasan: kinda busy
[19:04] <genii-around> Just a quick Q ... we are having some discussion on this subject in another area... Does anyone feel the "Avoid the pain of Windows 8" banner on ubuntu.com is inappropriate? I'm trying to get a feel for this
[19:07] <ScottK> I think it would be more appropriate on canonical.com than ubuntu.com, but that's about the same thing, so not really.
[19:08] <genii-around> Hm
[19:09] <sreich> where is this banner?
[19:10] <genii-around> I know some guys like Mozilla take little pokes with about:mozilla and such but I figured it would never happen with *buntu folks.
[19:10] <genii-around> sreich: On the main ubuntu.com page at the top.
[19:10] <sreich> weird..i'm not seeing it?
[19:10] <sreich> oh
[19:10] <sreich> nvm, i'm completely blind -_-
[19:11] <sreich> honestly i like it, microsoft, apple make the same kind of pokes anyways
[19:12]  * genii-around makes more coffee and contemplates
[19:15] <ScottK> genii-around: Also, keep in mind that that page is done by people in Canonical marketing.  The people that do Ubuntu the distro have no control over it.
[19:16] <genii-around> ScottK: Hah, yes. Now it begins to make more sense.
[19:16] <sreich> as with anything, the marketing dept controls everything ;)
[19:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you ever finish your Qt 4.8.3 backport to see how quassel works with it on 12.04?
[19:25] <mparillo> I have a Telepathy screenshot to replace the Kopete screen shot on the Feature Tour. Is there a guide on how to replace it?
[19:29] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[19:31] <yofel> mparillo: edit the feature-tour content page?
[19:31] <yofel> you can now edit it from the drupal admin interface
[19:32] <mparillo> yofel: Yes, thank you. I have changed the text from the admin interface to read KDE Telepathy instead of Kopete.
[19:34] <mparillo> yofel: But when I tried to attach my screen shot to the page, I used the URL it generated for the .png file in the IMG link, but that showed broken. And I did not see the images attached to the page either. They are stored elsewhere, in what looked like a regular file system.
[19:34] <yofel> mparillo: if you mean http://www.kubuntu.org/files/KDEtelepathy.png - it's there
[19:35] <mparillo> That's it, thanks.
[19:35] <mparillo> Now, they do not use full URLs, right?
[19:36] <yofel> take the part after srv/ in the link drupal shows
[19:36] <yofel> mparillo: src="/files/KDEtelepathy.png" should be enough
[19:40] <mparillo> yofel: Thank you. That did it. However, the image is too huge. I will try to scale it down later.
[19:42] <yofel> :)
[20:10]  * ScottK wonders where apachelogger got to?
[20:25] <genii-around> ScottK: Mark just said in -release-party the marketing guys didn't run it by him first and it has now been taken down. Good call there.
[20:26] <yofel> still up from what I see
[20:27] <ScottK> Canonical's web team is infamously not speedy.
[20:42] <genii-around> Changed now to "Your wish is our command"
[20:44] <ScottK> Ah.  Marketing irony.
[21:22] <Riddell> evening
[21:22] <Riddell> any panics while I was out?
[21:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: dinner
[21:25] <ScottK> Ah.
[21:26] <ScottK> apachelogger: See my ping about the workspace SRU.
[21:26] <apachelogger> allee: with qml possibly
[21:26] <Riddell> random nice e-mail just arrived http://paste.kde.org/573638/
[21:26] <Riddell> which I think is for everyone not just me :)
[21:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: netbook needs further investigation
[21:27] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[21:27] <apachelogger> all I did in the fixed rc was remove all plasmoids from pageone
[21:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.
[21:27] <ScottK> I see.
[21:27] <apachelogger> so the question which one is to blame remains
[21:27] <apachelogger> actually Riddell could toy with that
[21:27] <apachelogger> simply remove applet after applet in the bottom most containment
[21:41] <Riddell> just now I can't seem to get plasma netbook to show Page One at all
[21:41] <Riddell> even if I log out, remove .kde and log in again it doesn't get created
[21:53] <apachelogger> Oo
[21:53] <apachelogger> afiestas: bug 1066892 needs verification
[21:54] <afiestas> apachelogger: in a trip, can't test much
[21:54] <afiestas> rm -rf the config works for me
[22:21] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)