[00:08] <simplew> to who i need to talk so that can be packaged the kde polkit-kde-kcmodules
[00:26] <simplew> the project ttps://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/base/polkit-kde-kcmodules-1/  is not packaged and it misses a lot since its from there we can configure polkit
[00:52] <michaelc22> where do i find the program after i install it?
[00:53] <michaelc22> i installed macchanger wherwe do i find it
[00:59] <BluesKaj> michaelc22, kmenu>apps>internet , or alt+f2 , type in ,macchanger
[00:59] <OerHeks> why mac-changer ? you can set any mac adress in knetworkmanager
[01:09] <simplew> OerHeks: you dont know what hes doing, maybe he really needs it
[01:10] <simplew> michaelc22: the easiest way and best way is to always have a terminal window open where you can type in the commands
[01:20] <michaelc22> how do i change mac address?
[01:21] <michaelc22> im using kubuntu
[01:25] <michaelc22> can someone help me
[01:43] <simplew> michaelc22: why you want to change it?
[01:44] <simplew> michaelc22: are you following any howto?
[01:46] <michaelc22>  i did this sudo ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:80:48:BA:d1:30
[01:46] <michaelc22> and it changed it
[01:47] <michaelc22> can i make that permnate?
[01:47] <simplew> michaelc22: you still havent said why? and yes you can set it to always be set in boot
[01:48] <michaelc22> i want to get on ebay
[01:48] <michaelc22> becuase i got limted
[01:49] <simplew> you can add that line to /etc/rc.locals and everytime you boot it will run that
[01:49] <michaelc22> is it changed if i dont reboot?
[01:50] <SIR_Taco_> or change it in your /etc/network/interfaces config
[01:50] <michaelc22> in term?
[01:51] <simplew> michaelc22: the easiest way would be tooooo do it in Network Manager
[01:52] <michaelc22> i see network settings
[01:57] <simplew> near where you seethe hours, you have the networkmanager icon
[01:59] <michaelc22> on the bottom?
[01:59] <simplew> michaelc22: yes
[01:59] <michaelc22> manage connection
[01:59] <simplew> michaelc22: remember google is your friend
[02:00] <michaelc22> im using kubuntu
[02:00] <OerHeks> easy peasy to change your mac, clone it or fill in random with a button  > http://picpaste.com/pics/mac-TUBbrOQ4.1350525542.png
[02:02] <OerHeks> what will happen when you clone a mac from an Ebay server ?
[02:10] <michaelc22> i changed it in term
[02:12] <michaelc22> and then i changed it in network connections,  if i change it network connections would  the mac address show up in  term when i type ifconfig?
[02:46] <bjrohan> Heyo - I am having a java and ffmpeg related issues (not really ffmpeg, other dependent packages)
[02:46] <bjrohan> I have asked in +1 to no avail
[03:07] <michaelc22> question, i want a icon on taskbar so i can get to network faster
[03:07] <michaelc22> i exit it by mistak how do i get it back?
[03:08] <bjrohan> reinstall kubunut fcdrom live
[03:08] <bjrohan> from livecd
[03:08] <bjrohan> there is an easier way I jsut don't know it
[03:09] <michaelc22> i dont wanna reinstall it
[03:09] <michaelc22> someone here is gotta know?
[03:11] <bjrohan> Network faster is a program?
[03:11] <bjrohan> can you find it in the app launcher?
[03:12] <michaelc22> network faster isnt a program
[03:12] <bjrohan> How di I install  libx264-120. I can't find it in the package manager
[03:12] <bjrohan> oh
[03:12] <bjrohan> I am a linu newbie too
[03:12] <michaelc22> im learning to
[03:13] <michaelc22> i think illl buy a mac lol
[03:14] <michaelc22> helppppppppppppp
[03:15] <michaelc22> app launcher?
[03:17] <bjrohan> no no MAC
[03:17] <bjrohan> the app launcher is the little blue box you click that lists your installed apps
[03:24] <michaelc22> are u runing kubuntu
[03:24] <bjrohan> yes
[03:24] <bjrohan> stock from 12.10 Beta 1 install
[03:25] <michaelc22> says to run this knetworkmanager in term
[03:25] <michaelc22> do put sudo knetworkmanager
[03:30] <michaelc22> that package would appear to be installed - yet no icon in the tray.
[03:30] <michaelc22> what to do?
[03:30] <michaelc22> network icon?
[03:30] <michaelc22> that package would appear to be installed - yet no icon in the tray.
[03:30] <michaelc22> what to do?
[03:33] <bjrohan> Do you see the blue KDE button bottom left?
[03:35] <michaelc22> i got it
[03:35] <michaelc22> thanks alot
[03:35] <bjrohan> you got it to be an icon?
[03:36] <michaelc22> its in widgegets
[03:36] <michaelc22> look for network management
[03:36] <bjrohan> gotcha
[03:36] <michaelc22> tc bro
[03:37] <michaelc22> hope to seeya again
[03:38] <bjrohan> later
[03:41] <bjrohan> anyone have ffmpeg installed running 12.10?
[03:41] <bjrohan> I can not get it to install
[04:02] <bjrohan> anyone having issues with Dragon Player?
[04:03] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: according to ffmpeg package: "This package contains the deprecated ffmpeg program. This package also serves as a transitional package to libav-tools. Users are advised to use avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg."
[04:05] <bjrohan> SIT_TACO thank you! I am also trying to use Dragon Player it wants me to install libx264-120 when I have -123 and can not find -120 anywhere
[04:05] <ncfi1013> i accidentally deleted my firefox profile. how do i get it back? "un-delete" it?
[04:06] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: what version of Kubuntu?
[04:06] <avihay> OerHeks: How do you change your mac-address from knetworkmanager?
[04:06] <SIR_Taco_> ncfi1013: from the terminal?
[04:06] <bjrohan> 12.10 Beta 1 which I have updated every day
[04:07] <OerHeks> avihay,  to change your mac, clone it or fill in random with a button  > http://picpaste.com/pics/mac-TUBbrOQ4.1350525542.png
[04:07] <ncfi1013> i right clicked
[04:07] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: the 12.10 release should be tomorrow... I'd suggest seeing if it fixes with the updates
[04:08] <avihay> and in wireless it's the clone mac in the wireless tab?
[04:08] <OerHeks> avihay, i don't have a wireless adapter, so i cannot check it.
[04:10] <SIR_Taco_> avihay: yes
[04:10] <avihay> cool, and easy, wish I knew, been ifconfiging it manually for a while, I also took it off first
[04:11] <avihay> thanks
[04:11] <bjrohan> I also have a question about Java. In one instance on a website it works, then says it can't detect it :-(
[04:11] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: which browser?
[04:11] <bjrohan> Chrome and Chromium
[04:12] <ncfi1013> guess nobody can help me?
[04:14] <SIR_Taco_> ncfi1013: is it in your trash bin then?
[04:15] <ncfi1013> no, deleted...not trashed...
[04:15] <SIR_Taco_> bjrohan: sorry, don't use Chromium, not sure about any java issues/settings for it
[04:15] <ncfi1013> is there anyway to recover it?
[04:15] <SIR_Taco_> ncfi1013: then it's gone
[04:16] <ncfi1013> then why are there so many recovery tips for windows and none for linux?
[04:16] <ncfi1013> fucking bullshit
[04:16] <RaringOne> !language | ncfi1013
[04:17] <RaringOne> ncfi1013: look in the trash, it might still be there
[04:17] <ncfi1013> sorry...really...just mad at myself...my apologies
[04:17] <SIR_Taco_> ncfi1013: anyway...
[04:17] <RaringOne> !trash
[04:18] <RaringOne> !undelete
[04:18] <RaringOne> you might be able to recover it
[04:20] <avihay> ncfi1013: first hit in google for "undelete linux" www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-ext3-ext4-deleted-files-recovery-howto.html
[04:42] <bjrohan> ANyone here use Deja Dup? I am looking for a good backup tool?
[04:43] <bjrohan> Deja Dup will backup but honestly SUCKS, every time I start my laptop it says no backup waiting for network connection, but it has not ever connected and runa backup
[04:52] <bjrohan> what do you guys use for backup utility?
[04:53] <basketballstar> when does 12.10 come out tommarrow
[05:06] <bjrohan> no one does a regular back up on here?
[05:10] <ernesto_> hola! tengo kubuntu y se apaga solo tras actualizar, sine no encuentra motor de audio y aparece este mensaje
[05:10] <ernesto_> No se han proporcionado los argumentos de la orden
[05:10] <ernesto_> Uso: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <orden>
[05:10] <ernesto_> KdeSudo se cerrará ahora.
[05:10] <ernesto_> alguien me puede ayudar?
[05:11] <ernesto_> mi version de kubuntu es 8.04
[05:11] <bjrohan> I have a hard time with Kubuntu in English, sorry I can't help ernesto_
[05:15] <frogonwheels> bjrohan: btw, you should be able to just say  !es
[05:15] <bjrohan> !es
[05:16] <bjrohan> !es is a translator?
[05:16] <bjrohan> no
[05:16] <frogonwheels> bjrohan: just an easy way to redirect people :)
[05:16] <bjrohan> ah
[05:16] <bjrohan> !rs
[05:16] <bjrohan> wow
[05:17] <ernesto_> No se han proporcionado los argumentos de la orden
[05:17] <ernesto_> Uso: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <orden>
[05:17] <ernesto_> KdeSudo se cerrará ahora.
[05:17] <bjrohan> !fr
[05:17] <frogonwheels> ernesto_: !es
[05:17] <frogonwheels> !es
[05:17] <bjrohan> Bueno!
[05:17] <ernesto_> ok, got a problem with kubuntu 8.04 just turns itslef off every 5 min. or so...
[05:17] <ernesto_> just install it and it's the same issue
[05:17] <frogonwheels> stoopid bot. Hate it when bots don't direct.
[05:18] <frogonwheels> ernesto_: That's exciting.  anything in the logs?
[05:18] <ernesto_> also, xine cannot find the engine, when afew moments was working fine!...
[05:18] <ernesto_> nope,
[05:19] <frogonwheels> ernesto_: does it close down gracefully? or maybe there's a problem with cpu overheat or something?
[05:19] <ernesto_> i've just checked out BIOS, all ok
[05:19] <ernesto_> thermal and so...
[05:20] <ernesto_> just like that, appears the close options and if I don't cancel it it goes for shut down!
[05:20] <ernesto_> by the way, if i got disconnected it's because of the same... ok'
[05:20] <frogonwheels> ernesto_: could it be power-saving on you?
[05:20] <Shaan7> bjrohan: btw about backup, I just use duplicity from the command line
[05:21] <ernesto_> also got that one disabled, from the monitor and the effects on desktop...
[05:21] <bjrohan> thanks. I am looking for a GUI I am not that Linux literate yet :-(
[05:27] <Shaan7> bjrohan: well coincidentally, I am using deja dup for the first time, it seems to be working fine
[05:28] <bjrohan> over ssh, and for subsequent auto backups?
[05:28] <bjrohan> I get the first one done over SSH fine
[05:28] <bjrohan> it is the auto backup that fails me
[05:28] <Shaan7> ah not over the network, I do it to a USB hdd
[05:28] <bjrohan> :-)
[05:30] <frogonwheels> Shaan7: I use backuppc - little bit fidly to set up (text files) but works nicely and efficiently across different transports,
[05:33] <Shaan7> partimage was good as well, sadly it doesnt support ext4
[05:36] <ernesto_> aah
[05:36] <ernesto_> ! got no idea!!!
[05:36] <ernesto_> dang!
[05:41] <avihay> ubottu is so modest
[05:47] <ernestoA> well, hope that someone can help me, got kubuntu 8.04 but goes off automatically after a short time
[05:48] <ernestoA> when starts xine cannot find engine and also kdesudo goes for closure
[05:48] <Unit193> !eol | ernestoA
[05:49] <ernestoA> right know i-m using the live cd for the 7.10 to avoid another blackout!1
[05:52] <avihay> ernestoA: you'd need to supply more information, define "goes off automatically after a short time" better or look in /var/log/dmesg*
[05:54] <BadDesign> Does the proprietary AMD Linux x64 driver work for ATI RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]  ?
[05:55] <avihay> I mean  /var/log/dmesg* on the hdd, not the cd
[05:56] <ernestoA> yes, i got the one on the HDD
[05:57] <ernestoA> what info is needed?
[06:00] <avihay> usually the last few lines should indicate an error, in any case, yse pastebin.kde.org or similar service to share it here
[06:01] <avihay> BadDesign: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[07:50] <arian> hello
[07:50] <arian> Is there anything like HUD for kde ??
[07:50] <Guest60067> hello
[07:50] <Guest60067> hello
[08:05] <jmichaelx> so, i am trying to upgrade to quantal right now, but it would appear that things ground to a halt at 'starting virtuoso open source edition'. anyone have a suggestion?
[08:25] <ohzoi> hello, how can i upgrade to 12.10?
[08:27] <lordievader> ohzoi: It hasn't been released yet. You need to wait, when it has been released: sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:27] <babalu> ok thanks
[08:30] <algnux> hello ,is there any software like gimp in kubuntu?I don't like gtk+ under kde .
[08:35] <danni> algnux: Krita would be my first port of call
[08:36] <danni> though I find with the oxygen theme I find gtk under kde quite tolerable
[08:37] <almoxarife> algnux: look at 'qtcurve' for both gtk and kde rendering, works for me
[08:39] <algnux> danni:thx ,i will have a try
[08:40] <algnux> danni:    thx ,i will have a try
[08:40] <danni> algnux: it's more of a digital painter and less of a general image editor than gimp. What kinds of things are you planing to do?
[08:42] <algnux> danni: general image editor will be better
[08:51] <algnux> danni: is ImageMagick a good choice?It seems quite hard to use .
[08:52] <danni> image magick is more of a tool for scripters - For instance I use it in my day job on windows in 3d studio max to process textures for our game engine
[08:52] <danni> Krita will suit you better than that - but GIMP is more general purpose
[08:53] <danni> have a look here http://www.krita.org
[09:03] <algnux> danni: yeah ,it seems better than my imagine.Thx!!!
[09:35] <xenoph> Greetings, channel. I have a two-fold question; I seem to have managed to move my main... er, panel? Task manager? to the top of the monitor. How do I make it just be at the bottom again, so that all my open programs are listed there? Secondly, I run two monitors, any way of duplicating the task manager to the second monitor?
[09:38] <lordievader> xenoph: Right click on the panel -> panel options -> panel settings.
[09:39] <lordievader> xenoph: Here with screen-edge you can move the bar down.
[09:40] <xenoph> I appear to have managed to move the task manager back. I didn't realise it was just a widget. I thought the task manager was the actual panel, if you know what I mean.
[09:40] <xenoph> So, dumbness factor: high. I still need to, if possible, duplicate the main panel to my secondary monitor though, if possible.
[09:40] <lordievader> xenoph: Yes, create a panel on the 2nd monitor and add the task manager widget to it.
[09:42] <xenoph> lordievader: Of course! So simple! Your help is much appreciated! :D
[09:42] <lordievader> xenoph: No problem ;)
[09:46] <xenoph> Another question, if I may. Sometimes the tasks on the task manager overlap eachother, and I don't know why, or how to fix it.
[09:48] <lordievader> xenoph: Few months ago I had the same problem, however I added the backports ppa and since haven't seen it anymore. So I think with the update to 12.10 you'll be fine.
[09:48] <xenoph> lordievader: Ah, all right. Good to know. Thanks again! :)
[09:48] <lordievader> xenoph: If not, file a bug report ;)
[10:41] <oneadvent> anyone know of a way to hide virtualbox from the task bar?
[10:43] <almoxarife> oneadvent: the icon?
[10:43] <oneadvent> gonna try alltray
[10:44] <oneadvent> yea
[10:44] <oneadvent> the window picker almoxarife
[10:45] <almoxarife> oneadvent: you could blank the icon for vbox? not sure what you are trying to do
[10:45] <oneadvent> hmmm
[10:45] <oneadvent> lemme screenshot then
[10:45] <almoxarife> ok
[10:46] <oneadvent> http://i.imgur.com/tOfze.png
[10:46] <oneadvent> almoxarife: see how you can see virtualbox windows 7 running
[10:46] <oneadvent> i have two cause i have dual monitors, i want that realestate back
[10:47] <oneadvent> relestate...something like that
[10:47] <almoxarife> oneadvent: i use icon-only taskbar because of the same reason
[10:47] <oneadvent> well lemme try alltray, i think that might be the solution
[10:48] <lordievader> oneadvent: There is probably something in the Window Settings or the Application Settings that can help you.
[10:48] <almoxarife> oneadvent: takes up one icons worth of space
[10:49] <oneadvent> maybe lordievader i was looking but hadn't found anything
[10:49] <almoxarife> lordievader: i don't see how task bar would hide something that one has asked to see, hence 'task-bar'
[10:50] <hateball> oneadvent: you can force that behavior for the app by rightclicking the taskbar
[10:50] <lordievader> oneadvent: You can change the window type, maybe tricking the task bar into not showing the application.
[10:51] <hateball> you can set a custom window rule for virtualbox, tell it to "skip taskbar"
[10:51] <hateball> or whatever the english translation is
[10:51] <lordievader> That was what I was aiming for.
[10:51] <oneadvent> hmmm it doesn't give me that option when it is in the task bar, and switching to seamless seems to kill it off too
[10:51] <hateball> just rightclick the window title of a running virtualbox window, thats easiest
[10:52] <hateball> or alt+f2 -> "rules" and create a new one with your desired rules
[10:53] <lordievader> oneadvent: It's under Special Application Settings
[10:53] <oneadvent> hmm looking for that option under application specific settings
[10:54] <hateball> "arranging and accessibility?" I dunno, I use swedish locale :p
[10:54] <oneadvent> ahh lemme see if seemless mode works
[10:54] <oneadvent> PERFECT
[10:54] <oneadvent> thanks!
[10:54] <almoxarife> hateball: i stand corrected, just like you said
[10:54] <oneadvent> trying a restart for prosperity but i think we are good to go!
[10:55] <hateball> almoxarife: :)
[10:55] <hateball> KWin can do pretty much all the things.
[10:55] <oneadvent> thanks everyone!
[10:55] <oneadvent> another +1 to linux
[10:55] <lordievader> Hehe :)
[10:56] <almoxarife> imagine that, the don't taskbar option
[10:56] <oneadvent> well for something like "seamless" it is needed, i was getting cluttered.
[10:57] <almoxarife> oneadvent: i used to run xp-ubuntu seamless, talk about getting confuses sometimes
[10:57] <oneadvent> yea, i just have it running for windwos ff and ie9
[10:57] <oneadvent> i can't seem to figure out how to get the old firebug back
[10:58] <oneadvent> so windows works for those two specific things
[12:33] <akis> my dolphin instead of 'trash' shows 'wastebin'. i think it because the language of the system. is it possible to fix it?
[12:36] <Peace-> akis: where are you from ?
[12:37] <akis> greece, but i am using english_us version as the primary language of my system. greek is my 2nd language for my keyboard layout.
[12:37] <Peace-> akis: right click on the icon wastebin
[12:38] <Peace-> edit wastebin
[12:38] <Peace-> you can change the name
[12:38] <akis> i did already. it says 'trash'!!!
[12:38] <Peace-> akis: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/18/plasma-desktopSU6222.png
[12:39] <akis> ok. i know. the label is already : trash
[12:39] <Peace-> akis: mm
[12:40] <Peace-> akis: dolphin  ~/.kde/share/config
[12:40] <Peace-> rename dolphinrc
[12:40] <Peace-> akis: dolphin  ~/.kde/share/apps
[12:40] <Peace-> and rename the dolphin folder
[12:41] <tsimpson> wastebin is the name in en_GB locale, are you sure you're using en_US?
[12:41] <Peace-> tsimpson: btw it should change the label
[12:41] <Peace-> no matter if you are using gb or us
[12:42] <tsimpson> it's possible that it's actually (still) being translated
[12:42]  * tsimpson is guessing about that
[12:43] <akis> look. i am usng eng_US but i made a trick and i put en_UK to my /.profile so i can have date in european style: dd/mm/yyyy and not mm/dd/yy
[12:43] <Peace-> omg
[12:43] <Peace-> hahahah
[12:43] <Peace-> akis: you dont  need to do that
[12:43] <Peace-> akis: you can configure the date in the system settings
[12:44] <akis> i have to, because thunderbird doesnt work otherwise! its a bud of thunderbird.
[12:44] <akis> bud=bug
[12:44] <akis> google is plenty about this bug
[12:44] <Peace-> i have no idea
[12:44] <Smurphy> Peace-: You can. But as Akis said. Some programs do require some fine tuning. and manipulating the locale is nice.
[12:45] <Smurphy> doing the same here. System messages etc. alls C/Posix, all the rest german type/style.
[12:45] <Smurphy> works nice.
[12:45] <joker_> hey
[12:45] <joker_> you
[12:45] <joker_> how are you today
[12:45] <wmp> Hello, when 12.10?
[12:46] <joker_> hmm, no, at 18. 10
[12:46] <Peace-> !quantal
[12:46] <Peace-> ah...
[12:46] <Peace-> well today tomorrow
[12:46] <Peace-> i dunno
[12:47] <wmp> Ok
[12:47] <akis> yep thats right. thunderbird reads your local lang and auto customizes everything in eng_US. So i put 'export LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8' and i solve this issue! but i have the probl with trash. Peace: what do i have to do with  dolphinrc file?
[12:48] <Peace-> akis: nothing thi is not a standard problem
[12:48] <akis> i made already a trick and works. I wrote as label: Trash (the 1st T in greek layout) and worked!
[12:48] <Peace-> pk
[12:48] <Peace-> ok
[12:48] <akis> because there is no translation for this word!
[12:49] <akis> the system cannot recognize a word starting from T (greek) and ending with rash!
[12:50] <joker_> hmm, i am thinking there is a bug  with rekonq and some times with keyboard
[12:50] <joker_> rekonq - some times doesnot loading the clips
[12:50] <joker_> keyboard - sometimes stop writhing
[12:51] <Peace-> joker_: well rekonq is all a bug
[12:51] <joker_> yes :D
[12:52] <joker_> hmm dudes i am having problem with 64 bit, some times it is get laag
[12:52] <akis> thank you guys. i quit. bye!
[12:55] <FlyingElvis> i have a question...can i install ubuntu restricted extras alongside the kubuntu restricted extras?
[12:55] <Smurphy> Try it.
[12:57] <FlyingElvis> well it installed...my problem is i am unsure is the msttfonts thing installed correctly
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:02] <SIR_Taco_> Links not up yet, but the images seem to be out: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[13:03] <SIR_Taco_> hi BluesKaj
[13:04] <BluesKaj> hey SIR_Taco_
[13:35] <BluesKaj> I prerfer to load 3 fav pages in browsers , but rekonq seems to allow only one , or is there a workaround to add more
[13:35] <BluesKaj> err home pages rather
[14:04] <SIR_Taco_> BluesKaj: it would seem not...
[14:06] <BluesKaj> SIR_Taco_, yeah , also rekonq still have javascript issues , not much has changed ..they don't seem to be working on it much
[14:06] <BluesKaj> still has
[14:07] <Smurphy> Hmm. Still can't get X to work on my netbook ...
[14:08] <SIR_Taco_> my impression from the last few releases is that they're working on 'ooooh shiny' things and the core is still not complete
[14:09] <Lynoure> SIR_Taco_: people work on what people like to work on... unless paid to do differently (and sometimes even then)
[14:10] <SIR_Taco_> Lynoure: yes, absolutely
[14:12]  * BluesKaj wonders if there's a #kubuntu-release-party
[14:13] <genii-around> Smurphy: Is it giving you any kind of errors that might assist in diagnosing the issue?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> nopr , redirects to ubuntu-release-party
[14:13] <Smurphy> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[14:14] <Smurphy> *lol* Yeah - now, how to corect hat :)
[14:15] <Smurphy> genii-around: It's an ASUS EeePC - 1025C.1105
[14:17] <sostenes> bazinga
[14:18] <genii-around> Smurphy: Usually with that error, it can't find some compatible setting of what the video card can do and what the monitor/screen reports back it is capable of.
[14:18] <Smurphy> genii-around: I know. I suppose it has something to do with this:
[14:18] <Smurphy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[14:19] <genii-around> Smurphy: What vendor:device is does lspci -nn say for that card?
[14:19] <Smurphy> [8086:0be2] (rev 09)
[14:19] <Smurphy> Just updated the pciids's - may provide more verbose output.
[14:20] <Smurphy> Nope, no change.
[14:20] <genii-around> Intel Cedarview video
[14:20] <Smurphy> Yup.
[14:22] <genii-around> Smurphy: Does: modprobe -l| grep gma500       show a driver: gma500_gfx       ?
[14:23] <Smurphy> root@EeePC:~# lsmod | grep gma500
[14:23] <Smurphy> gma500_gfx            187730  1
[14:23] <Smurphy> drm_kms_helper         45271  1 gma500_gfx
[14:23] <Smurphy> Yups ... Loaded.
[14:23] <FloodBotK1> Smurphy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <Smurphy> I'm running the latest beta 12.10 b2.
[14:23] <Smurphy> 12.04 did actually run - but after the upgrade - lost the Ability to use X.... very weird.
[14:25] <Smurphy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/168986/cedar-view-drivers-arent-working :)
[14:25] <genii-around> Yes, frustrating!
[14:26] <Smurphy> I actually upgraded that Netbooks memory to 4GB :) and now no X ...
[14:27] <Smurphy> Eventually I'll run a left4dead server on it. It's 2 cores (4 with HT :) ) ...
[14:31] <Smurphy> genii-around: There are no Quantal binaroes :(
[14:40] <genii-around> Smurphy: Have you tried a generic driver like vesa to just get up and running?
[14:40] <genii-around> ( apologies on lag, work required me)
[14:40] <Smurphy> Yup. Won't take it.
[14:40] <genii-around> Smurphy: How about intelfb ?
[14:41] <Smurphy> can I force it ?
[14:41] <vista_killer> nice work guys for 12.10
[14:41] <vista_killer> gz :)!!
[14:42] <Smurphy> Last time I had issues with X  ist about 10 or 15 Years ago, but then, we calculated the modelines by hand :) *hahaha* What mess. You screwed your screens if you made a mistake - so you calculate an entire day to be sure it wouldn't break anything :d
[14:42] <genii-around> Smurphy: You could make an xorg.conf and put it in the driver line
[14:42] <Smurphy> You hav a link for reference ?
[14:44] <genii-around> Smurphy: eg: Section "Device"
[14:44] <genii-around>         Identifier      "Default Device"
[14:44] <genii-around>         Driver  "intelfb"
[14:44] <genii-around> EndSection
[14:44] <genii-around> Would be all it really needs in there
[14:44] <FloodBotK1> genii-around: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <Smurphy> right :)
[14:45] <Smurphy> And - I got the same message from stupid bot ...
[14:45] <genii-around> I probably should have put it in a pastebin but it was short.
[14:46] <aleste> Hi!, I have this problem: Could kdeinit not launch '/ usr / bin / konsole'. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[14:47] <genii-around> aleste: Does it say it exactly like that with the spaces around the slashes or without spaces?
[14:50] <aleste> Without the spaces
[14:53] <Smurphy> genii-around: Nope. Won't do it ...
[14:54] <Smurphy> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[14:54] <genii-around> Smurphy:  Damn.
[14:54] <Smurphy> That's what I alwayes get ...
[14:58] <SIR_Taco_> Isn't the intelfb driver normally blacklisted?
[14:58] <aleste> I have this problem: Could kdeinit not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[14:58] <genii-around> Smurphy: Can you do: sudo rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log&& sudo touch /var/log/Xorg.0.log &&  sudo restart lightdm     ..then to make sure pastebinit is installed and then pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[14:59] <genii-around> aleste: Is the package konsole installed?
[14:59] <Smurphy> With our without loading the xorg.conf file ?
[14:59] <aleste> yes
[15:00] <genii-around> Smurphy: Just rm the xorg.conf file first so we can see what it's trying to do with the gma500 driver
[15:01] <genii-around> aleste: I would suggest to ctrl-alt-f1 , then login and do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole        then do alt-f7 to return to kubuntu and try again.
[15:01] <Smurphy> http://pastebin.com/6hABQbX6
[15:02] <aleste> genii-around: ok, I'll try
[15:02] <genii-around> Smurphy: Might be able to add some usable mode with xrandr hopefully
[15:02] <Smurphy> Pasted the X start (X as root from a remote console :} ) - and the made a cat of the Xorg.0.log file
[15:02] <Smurphy> xrandr needs a Display and a X Server.
[15:02] <Smurphy> It does not even start here.
[15:04] <genii-around> Smurphy: Looks like you have nomodeset turned on for boot. Do you get any usable video when it is not used?
[15:04] <Smurphy> doesn't make a difference. I jsut want it to boot in plain mode so I can see all kernel messages.
[15:05] <Smurphy> Thing is - it detects 4 possible screens while it can service only 3 ... :}
[15:06] <genii-around> Yes, odd
[15:07] <genii-around> Smurphy: Can you also pastebin the .xsession-errors  file from your home dir?
[15:07] <Smurphy> there is none ...
[15:08] <Smurphy> It cannot even start X :)
[15:08] <Smurphy> for a .xsession file - I need a running x.
[15:08] <tsimpson> ~/.xsession-errors does not need a running X
[15:09] <tsimpson> just that there was one at some point ;)
[15:09] <Smurphy> tsimpson: Well - I hav an old one (while still running 12.04). But with 12.10b2 - I start X as root - and root has no .xsession-errors file in it's root directory.
[15:10] <Smurphy> it is incredible how slow that box is (Used to use linux on a mac mini with 2.4GHz CPU and 8GB of ram :) ) ...
[15:10] <genii-around> work, afk 5-7 minutes
[15:12] <Smurphy> OK - I quit ... Have to prepare dinner. The Horde will be here soon :)
[15:12] <Smurphy> Cya later folks and Thx for the support ;)
[15:15] <KurtS> So is Kubuntu 12.10 coming out today?
[15:17] <tsimpson> KurtS: yes, sometime today
[15:17] <KurtS> Ok, cool.
[15:17] <lordievader> KurtS: The images are already available somewhere, ask OerHeks if you want to know where.
[15:19] <OerHeks> carefull, torrents are out, but the update servers are not ready ... yet
[15:19] <SIR_Taco_> Smurphy: when you get back... have you looked through: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2039705
[15:20] <SIR_Taco_> Links not up yet, but the images seem to be out: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[15:20] <Smurphy> SIR_Taco_: Thx. Will check it ...
[15:21] <Smurphy> lucky - I just came back to get the recipe ... :}
[15:21] <SIR_Taco_> ;)
[15:21]  * genii-around runs away from work, makes more coffee
[15:21] <tsimpson> it's best to wait until the announcement, though you're probably fine in getting the image now and rsync'ing after release if it changes
[16:12] <Jimster480-Lapto> k
[16:41] <kdeT_> hi guys i tried to install office 2010 with playonlinux but  the installation "stops"(not really stops but passing on without coming to an end) while updates are done at the end ... any idea for this ?
[17:12] <uglyoldbob> im having a problem with grub. I cannot get grub to update and show the linux 3.x kernels
[17:14] <uglyoldbob> update-grub and grub-mkconfig see the new kernels, but when I boot in only see the previous 2.6.32 kernels
[17:16] <genii-around> uglyoldbob: Is that grub perhaps installed on the second disk and not the first?
[17:16] <uglyoldbob> geneii-around: only one hard drive is installed
[17:19] <uglyoldbob> so it appears my grub is using /boot/grub/grub.cfg, how do I update that?
[17:19] <genii-around> uglyoldbob: Try: sudo grub-install /dev/sda         and then: sudo update-initramfs -u        and see if it shows on next reboot
[17:20] <genii-around> uglyoldbob: Is your /boot on a separate partition? It may be gettting full as well.
[17:21] <SIR_Taco> or possibly not mounted
[17:21] <Shaan7> yay! its here :D
[17:22] <Riddell> ** http://www.kubuntu.org/  Kubuntu 12.10 out
[17:24] <uglyoldbob> so my update-grub modifies /boot/grub/menu.lst, but my grub actually uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:24] <Shaan7> RaringOne: tsk tsk, you were late, I announced it first :P
[17:24] <Shaan7> oops
[17:24] <Shaan7> ^ Riddell
[17:25] <Riddell> :)
[17:26] <genii-around> uglyoldbob: That means you have a grub1 versus grub2 problem
[17:26] <uglyoldbob> ok im installing grub2 to try to fix it
[17:27] <livingdaylight> is kubuntu rocking
[17:27] <genii-around> uglyoldbob: I would use the grub-pc package instead of the grub2 package
[17:27] <livingdaylight> what new and great?
[17:28] <RaringOne> Riddell: torrent links on kubuntu.org are 404
[17:28] <shadeslayer> oh snap, he just went out
[17:28] <tsimpson> !torrent
[17:28] <tsimpson> !torrents
[17:28] <RaringOne> get him back!
[17:28]  * shadeslayer has a look
[17:29] <shadeslayer> RaringOne: don't worry, I'll fix0r
[17:29] <RaringOne> thank you tsimpson
[17:30] <Smurphy> Desktop+mac iso - is there a possibility to update to that through normal ways ???
[17:30] <Smurphy> :}
[17:30] <RaringOne> doubtful
[17:31] <Smurphy> what's different from the normal release, or is it just the Mac EFI stuff and drivers for the hardware that will be handled during boot ?
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Download links should be fixed
[17:38] <genii-around> shadeslayer: Yup
[17:38] <shadeslayer> genii-around: can you double check all links on that page?
[17:38] <shadeslayer> just to make sure we're covered
[17:39] <genii-around> will do
[17:39] <genii-around> Can't check the Wubi
[17:39] <shadeslayer> that's fine, it works here
[17:39] <genii-around> armhf 404
[17:40] <genii-around> amd64mac good
[17:41] <SIR_Taco> "(1038522) Manual partitioning in installer crashes when handling many partitions" thought that one was fixed
[17:41] <genii-around> 32bit iso good
[17:41] <genii-around> 64bit iso good
[17:41] <shadeslayer> shouldn't have that gz at the end
[17:47] <kRush_> so, resizing a partition kinda killed grub and I was stuck in a bootloop. booting from livecd I was abled to chroot back in and reinstall grub, but now the entry for win7 is missing, any ideas how to get that back? the partiton still exists and is readable
[17:48] <lordievader> kRush_: sudo update-grub might work.
[17:49] <kRush_> that's what I did on the livecd env.
[17:50] <kRush_> but it found win7 just now, weird
[17:51] <lordievader> kRush_: I thought it would ;)
[17:51] <SIR_Taco> kRush_: it was hiding behind one of the cylinders :)
[17:51] <kRush_> thx, will try to boot it =)
[18:10] <kroson_> so, is calliga office better than libreoffice?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> kroson_: define better
[18:14] <shadeslayer> is it better into KDE? yes
[18:14] <shadeslayer> does it export to .doc/.docx? nope
[18:14] <kroson_> shadeslayer: more features, and better compatibility with ms office formats
[18:14] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:14] <kroson_> ok, thank you
[18:14] <shadeslayer> it's obviously not as feature complete as libreoffice
[18:15] <shadeslayer> it's getting there :)
[18:16] <systemclient> Using FN+F5, I can switch bluetooth on and off. How can I do this from the command line?
[18:21] <systemclient>  Using FN+F5, I can switch bluetooth on and off. How can I do this from the command line?
[18:23] <Peace-> systemclient: mm
[18:23] <shadeslayer> systemclient: sudo rmmod btusb?
[18:24] <shadeslayer> ( assuming btusb is what's controlling your bt device )
[18:24] <shadeslayer> ( if it's not, pastebin output of lsmod and I'll have a guess )
[18:24] <genii-around> systemclient: sudo stop bluetooth
[18:24] <Peace-> systemclient: use xdotool
[18:24] <Peace-> systemclient: for example
[18:24] <Peace-> systemclient: xdotool key alt+F2
[18:24] <Peace-> will show krunner :)
[18:25] <systemclient> Peace-: problem is that I want to to toggle it without the wifi
[18:26] <genii-around> systemclient: As I said. sudo stop bluetooth    then to start it again: sudo start bluetooth
[18:27] <Peace-> genii-around: xdotool is nicer and if y r lazy you have not to type password D
[18:27]  * Peace- is lazy
[18:30]  * genii-around slides Peace- a really weak coffee he made when he was being lazy
[18:30] <genii-around> ;-)
[18:31] <Peace-> genii-around:  xdotool key s u r e
[18:31] <Peace-> xD
[18:49] <SIR_Taco_> well that explains alot.... my videos have been a little choppy on my laptop.... seems I forgot to install the proprietary AMD/ATI drivers. Must say that the Radeon driver has come a long way though
[18:55] <tane> hello
[18:55] <tane> i have just installed kubuntu but would like to disable KDE, so that itll boot with no gui. How can i do that?
[18:59] <keithzg_> As long as you disable autostarting whatever DM you're using, that'll do the trick.
[19:01] <Wizard> Hi.
[19:02] <Wizard> I have got a strange problem with sleep mode. Seems my laptop is going to sleep.. twice.
[19:03] <Wizard> For example, I close lid, it goes to sleep. I open lid, click mouse, it wakes up, than goes to sleep again.
[19:37] <Smurphy> Hmmm.. The packages show up in the archives - but still unresolved dependencies here ...
[19:41] <SIR_Taco_> did my ATI/AMD card get depreciated when I wasn't looking?
[19:44] <nicolas_> help
[19:44] <livingdaylight> is everyone rocking on their new shiny KDE ?
[19:45] <lordievader> ! ask |nicolas_
[19:45] <nicolas_> je viens d'installer kubuntu 12.04 et je galère un peu... quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider?
[19:46] <SIR_Taco_> !fr | nicolas_
[19:47] <livingdaylight> nicolas_, qu'est ce qu'il y a?
[19:47] <livingdaylight> raconte?
[19:48] <livingdaylight> is kde modular?
[19:53] <SIR_Taco_> livingdaylight: I would say it is, as much as it can be
[20:07] <SIR_Taco_> hmm.. 'no such device', anyone else having issues with radeon cards in 12.10?
[20:07] <livingdaylight> SIR_Taco, so, would i be able to uninstall kmail for eg?
[20:08] <livingdaylight> or is it part of a metapackage that requires me to keep kmail?
[20:08] <SIR_Taco_> livingdaylight: yes, you can remove kmail without messing up your KDE install
[20:08] <livingdaylight> I remember encountering issues like that with Ubuntu
[20:08] <livingdaylight> SIR_Taco, ok, that's good to know
[20:09] <livingdaylight> I'm looking at xfce. I hear one reason people like it is coz its 'modular' which apparently means just that: being able to de/install what one wants /needs
[20:09] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, it's safe remove kmail and kontact but not nepomuk or akonadi
[20:09] <SIR_Taco_> livingdaylight: most things are modular, there are the odd package (like akonadi for instance) which have ties into many programs and systems. But generally, normal programs you would use can be removed safely
[20:10] <SIR_Taco_> BluesKaj: beat me to it :P
[20:10] <livingdaylight> :)
[20:10] <livingdaylight> If I can only make kde look like gnome :p
[20:11] <SIR_Taco_> you could put a furry hat on it... ;)
[20:11] <BluesKaj> SIR_Taco_,  your explanation is more thorough :)
[20:11] <AMDAthlon> if i installed kubuntu 12.10 when it was beta do i need to reinstall it to get kubuntu 12.10 final?
[20:12] <SIR_Taco_> AMDAthlon: no, just update
[20:12] <AMDAthlon> ok ^_^
[20:12] <SIR_Taco_> use Muon, or in terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:22] <[Relic]> is there an easy way to go back to a previous version of the nvidia current?
[20:27] <wmp_> why 12.10 show me only one CPU thread?
[20:28] <yofel> wmp_: where does it do that?
[20:28] <wmp_> yofel: ? AMD C-50
[20:28] <yofel> no, I mean where do you see only one thread?
[20:29] <wmp_> /proc/cpuinfo and in htop
[20:30] <yofel> that's... odd then, cpuinfo should be accurate
[20:31] <yofel> I fear I don't know what could be wrong there (except a wrong BIOS setting, which sounds unlikely)
[20:31] <wmp_> [    0.109863] CPU0: AMD C-50 Processor stepping 00
[20:31] <wmp_> [    0.218211] NMI watchdog: enabled on all CPUs, permanently consumes one hw-PMU counter.
[20:31] <wmp_> [    5.578007] CPU1: Not responding.
[20:31] <wmp_> [    5.578175] Brought up 1 CPUs
[20:31] <FloodBotK1> wmp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <wmp_> yofel: on 12.04 work good
[20:32] <wmp_> sorry for flood
[20:32] <ptomblin> Holy crap, 4 lines is a flood?
[20:32] <wmp_> ;
[20:32] <wmp_> )
[20:32] <[Relic]> a very small damn burst
[20:33] <mark3> Im soaked
[20:33] <ptomblin> Whoever configured this "Floodbot" needs to get to higher ground.
[20:34] <yofel> it's set to >3 lines, that's the paste limit policy
[20:35] <ptomblin> That\nis\nlame\n!
[20:35] <wmp_> ok, i try upgrade bios
[20:43] <BluesKaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[20:58] <[Relic]> this is not going well, 12.04 is there an easy way to undo an update in muon, the last update which contained nvidia driver update is locking the computer up while playing a specific fps game so I would just like to roll back hte updates I did today if possible
[21:02] <wmp_> i dont understand... after go to bios setup and run kubuntu in rescure mode, i have 2 CPU
[21:02] <wmp_> after normal running i have one
[21:03] <SIR_Taco_> [Relic]: do you know which version you had before?
[21:04] <[Relic]> it is in the history
[21:05] <SIR_Taco_> [Relic]: if you know the package name, just type:  sudo dpkg -i packagename
[21:05] <[Relic]> would force version in muon work?
[21:05] <SIR_Taco_> likely it's still on your system if you don't do apt-get clean too often
[21:06] <SIR_Taco_> [Relic]: possibly... haven't tried
[21:08] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: are you running it in a VM?
[21:08] <wmp_> no
[21:10] <wmp_> maybe problem is without support pae?
[21:10] <wmp_> on 12.04 i havent this problem
[21:11] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: 32-bit system or 64-bit?
[21:11] <wmp_> 64
[21:13] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: maybe change from a PAE kernel to a normal kernel then? PAE is more for 32-bit systems to address more memory
[21:13] <SIR_Taco_> see if it helps/changes
[21:14] <SIR_Taco_> or are you running 32-bit Kubuntu?
[21:15] <wmp_> SIR_Taco_: no, i have only x64
[21:16] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: there's no point in using PAE kernel then. Wonder if that's the problem
[21:19] <genii-around> wmp_: Do you have hyperthreading turned on in your bios?
[21:19] <wmp_> genii-around: this is amd
[21:19] <wmp_> and on 12.04 work good
[21:27] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: here's a user that had a similar problem, the issue was to do with APIC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1740798
[21:27] <SIR_Taco_> sorry, ACPI
[21:47] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: here's a user that had a similar problem, the issue was to do with APIC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1740798
[21:47] <wmp_> SIR_Taco_: hmmm, in 12.04 i have acpi=off
[21:47] <wmp_> so i try this
[21:50] <netzsooc> hi there, I am having a problem trying to share files between an android 4.0 Lg optimus l5 phone and kubuntu any idea on why could that be?
[21:51] <BarkingFish> Firstly how are you trying to share? Are you using a Bluetooth PAN?
[21:51] <wmp_> ok, reboot
[21:52] <netzsooc> BarkingFish I am trying to share them via usb
[21:52] <netzsooc> the thing is that I connect the telephone and it is not detected
[21:54] <BarkingFish> ah. I don't share via USB, so I'm not in the best position to be able to help you deal with that.  Might be best to just sit tight and hang on for a bit :)
[21:55] <Torch> netzsooc: might not work that great even if the phone was detected becuase google, in their wisdom, are using MTP on ICS and jelly bean to share files via usb
[21:55] <Torch> netzsooc: and MTP is not supported all that well on linux generally (being an MS-protocol)
[21:56] <avihay> ^
[21:56] <netzsooc> BarkingFish ok, thank you well is it possible to share files via wifi or something like that?
[21:56] <netzsooc> Torch I read something about it I already have installed libmtp
[21:57] <BarkingFish> I share via bluetooth, where available.  I have a bluetooth adapter in my PC and the kde bluetooth daemon running
[21:57] <Torch> netzsooc: i'm just pulling/pushing via adb
[21:58] <avihay> netzsooc: you should try a free app called airdroid. it runs an http server on your phone that lets you do some nice stuff on your phone from a computer
[21:59] <tedewen> Hi All, Just installed kubuntu 12.10 as a new linux user and have installed the AMP stack. I am trying to get subdomains off of localhosts working and followed the instructions at http://actweblist.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/adding-subdomain-to-localhost-in-ubuntu-12-04-apache/  Unfortunately, it does not seem to work - might one of you help me out?
[22:00] <netzsooc> thanks for that avihay. Torch thanks I will google about it "adb" first time I hear it (just noob with smartphones this is my first one and was amazed that android being linuxborno is uncompatible :S)
[22:00] <avihay> includeing uploading and downloading files
[22:00] <Torch> netzsooc: it's the android debug stuff for developers
[22:01] <wmp_> SIR_Taco_: nothing and on noacpi i havent wifi
[22:01] <netzsooc> ok... will watch both airdroid and adb...
[22:01] <netzsooc> see you later, gotta go now
[22:01] <monkeyhybrid> tedewen, what seems to be the problem?
[22:02] <ptomblin> Has anybody tried upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04 yet?
[22:02] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_: hmmm... I'll keep looking for a solution
[22:03] <wmp_> thank
[22:03] <wmp_> now i check if live usb have 2 threads
[22:04] <tedewen> Hi monkeyhybrid. Well, I try testing the subdomain, having created test.htm in the lionked directory byt visiting http://sub1.localhost/test.hrm and get the default apache It's working page instead. The link seems to be doing something though as if I try to go to a noneistant sub it give the 'not found' page instead
[22:04] <tedewen> wow, -typos of course ;)
[22:07] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: mac book?
[22:12] <monkeyhybrid> tedewin: ok, so your hosts file is setup ok because it's resolving sub1.localhost to 127.0.0.1, and Apache is obviously running and accepting connections, so sounds like it's something to do with your virtualhost config. Did you definately use sub1.localhost as the ServerName in the virtualhost config? And enabled the virtual host with 'sudo a2ensite <config-name>' ? And reloaded apache config with 'sudo service
[22:12] <monkeyhybrid> apache2 reload'?
[22:13] <Torch> maybe pastebin the config
[22:16] <monkeyhybrid> tedewin: to test that your config is valid, do a 'sudo apache2ctl -t'. That should report 'Syntax OK'.
[22:16] <monkeyhybrid> tdewin: and if it is valid, do a 'sudo apache2ctl -S' to list all virtualhosts that Apache knows about
[22:19] <monkeyhybrid> tdewin: in the output of that last command, you should see a line like '*:80 is a NameVirtualHost' which means Apache knows to do named based virtualhosts on port 80 for any IP. And also a line like 'port 80 namevhost sub1.localhost (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<your-config>:1)' to show it knows about your virtual host
[22:20] <tedewen> 2 things: 1 the test.htm gives a 404, sub1.localhost returns the default apache working page. As for the virtual hosts I did it as an additional file named sub1 in etc/apache2/sites-available/
[22:20] <monkeyhybrid> tedewin: check my messages above that I directed to 'tdewin' by mistake
[22:20] <tedewen> not sure if that changes thoise instructions at all monkeyhybrid
[22:21] <SIR_Taco_> wmp_:  two more... just pulling straws at this point. The only other option I can think of is bad core....: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144905 http://superuser.com/questions/219017/second-cpu-missing-of-dual-core (2nd answer)
[22:22] <wmp_> SIR_Taco_: i have 2 threads after turn off and turn on computer
[22:22] <drbobb> is the lightdm-kde still as buggy as it was a few days ago, in the beta?
[22:22] <wmp_> after reboot i havent
[22:22] <drbobb> and is the touchpad configurator still broken?
[22:22] <monkeyhybrid> tedewin: sounds like your virtualhost config is not being used by Apache correctly, so sub1.localhost is being matched to Apache's default virtualhost instead. try the commands I mentioned previously to check your config, etc
[22:23] <drbobb> telepathy-kde was also broken last I tried it, wouldn't connect to any of my accounts
[22:24] <drbobb> so isn't it a mistake to replace known-to-work defaults like kdm and kopete?
[22:24] <SIR_Taco_> drbobb: I had problems with Nvidia and LightDM during the beta, but they have been solved
[22:24] <drbobb> oh I have an nvidia as well, so maybe it will work for me now
[22:24] <tedewen> working on them now monekyhybrid will have results here in a sec
[22:25] <SIR_Taco_> drbobb: if you have a problem.... in a console, type: dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[22:25] <SIR_Taco_> it will give you an option to switch back to KDM
[22:25] <drbobb> yea I know
[22:25] <monkeyhybrid> oki doki tedewen. let me know how you get on with that and then we can get to root of the problem
[22:26] <SIR_Taco_> drbobb: what's wrong with the touchpad config?
[22:27] <tedewen> all seems ok monkeyhybrid results here: http://paste.kde.org/573668/
[22:27] <drbobb> uh, like, it doesn't work
[22:27] <drbobb> it just spews some nonsensical error message
[22:27] <drbobb> the bug was reported quite a while ago
[22:28] <drbobb> synaptiks just crashes
[22:29] <Torch> <Directory /home/ahsan/mysite> -- does that exist?
[22:29] <Torch> ah, wait
[22:29] <Torch> you set the documentroot, but not the directory rule
[22:30] <Torch> those two have to match
[22:30] <Torch> DocumentRoot /home/tedewen_2/www/sub1  <--this has to be the same as in the <Directory> rule
[22:30] <Torch> and the dir has to exist of course
[22:30] <monkeyhybrid> tedewen: you are using the ServerName 'mysite.localhost' in you virtualhost config, but using sub1.localhost in your hosts file. If you want to use sub1.localhost as your site's domain name, you need to use that as ServerName in virtualhost config too
[22:31] <tedewen> ahhhh I missed the edit on line 5!
[22:31] <monkeyhybrid> tedewen: once you change your virtualhost config, remember to tell Apache to reload config too. sudo service apache2 reload
[22:32] <monkeyhybrid> tedewen: yep, the edit on line 5 too. but most importantly, make sure ServerName on line 4 is what you intend to use and same as you have in your hosts file
[22:32] <SIR_Taco_> drbobb: on 12.10 or 12.04?
[22:33] <drbobb> 12.10 of course
[22:33] <drbobb> 12.04 was fine
[22:34] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: pm-powersave dont help
[22:35] <tedewen> gentlemen, you are stars. thank you very much monkeyhybrid, Torch
[22:35]  * tedewen dances a happy dance
[22:35] <SIR_Taco_> drbobb: you what error(s) do you get then?
[22:36] <monkeyhybrid> tedewen: hehe, no worries mate. take it you're in business now?
[22:36] <tedewen> working a charm :D
[22:36] <monkeyhybrid> nice one :)
[22:36] <tedewen> I gotta say, everything seems to be falling together between me and ubuntu this time round. Having a blast.
[22:37] <monkeyhybrid> coool. I do find it gets smoother and smoother every release
[22:37] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: what about changin grub boot options to :" pci=nomsi pnpbios=off ro quiet splash"
[22:37] <yofel> drbobb: the bug where synaptiks told nonsense about 2.0 not being >= 2.0 is fixed
[22:37] <drbobb> yofel: duh, I'm staring at that very same message right now
[22:38] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: now i try this
[22:38] <tedewen> Thanka again gents, I can sleep peacefully now. \o
[22:38] <yofel> drbobb: using kde-config-touchpad 0.8.1-1ubuntu2 ?
[22:38] <SIR_Taco_> drbobb: being polite and appreciative of the help people are attempting to give you is an asset
[22:40] <drbobb> yofel: okay, my version has a terminating 1, looks like not all mirrors are updated yet
[22:40] <yofel> yeah, 1 is broken, 2 has the fix
[22:41] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: hmmm, looking that work
[22:43] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: ok. so the answer was " pci=nomsi pnpbios=off ro quiet splash" ?
[22:44] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: maybe, now i trying without pci=nomsi
[22:44] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: ok, let me/us know
[22:45] <michaelc22> question  is their a program something llike crap cleaner for kuubuntu????
[22:45] <wmp> And i have problem with clicking disc... now i execute manual hdparm -B 255 but this isnt good methid
[22:46] <wmp> Method*
[22:46] <SIR_Taco_> michaelc22: there's 'cruft'
[22:49] <SIR_Taco_> wmp:  you want them to mount when you boot? or you just want them to mount when you click them (like in Dolphin)
[22:49] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: without pci=nomsi i havent loggin screen
[22:50] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: you dont understand me, my disc clicking and i hear them
[22:51] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: disc as in hard drive? or as in DVD/CD drive?
[22:51] <wmp> Hdd
[22:51] <yofel> sounds like he wants to turn the HDD power management off so the head doesn't get parked
[22:51] <wmp> Yes
[22:52] <SIR_Taco_> ah
[22:53] <SIR_Taco_> still... clicking hdd isn't usually good in my experience
[22:53] <yofel> my eeePC does the same when running on battery
[22:53] <SIR_Taco_> ok
[22:54] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: without pci=nomsi dont work
[22:56] <yofel> hm, maybe try -M 254 (or 128, 0), that changes the acoustic management. Otherwise i would've expected -B to do something as well :/
[22:56] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: ok, so i need this 2 options to work good
[22:56] <SIR_Taco_> yofel: would that not defeat the purpose (both options)?
[22:56] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: it would seem so
[22:58] <yofel> well, depends on what you want. If you want to save power the drive should spin down. For that it has to park the head to prevent a headcrash. If you want it to be quiet you'll need to tell the drive to never go into powersave mode
[22:59] <wmp> yofel: i want have 255 automatical
[22:59] <Torch> modify /etc/hdparm.conf, then?
[22:59] <yofel> there's /etc/hdparm.conf
[22:59] <wmp> ok, i try this
[23:01] <SIR_Taco_> yofel: ok, fair enough
[23:02] <wmp_> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/hdparm: file does not exist
[23:02] <wmp_> ...
[23:06] <wmp> Now i havent login panel... and must restart...
[23:06] <Torch> wmp: you probably need the pci=nomsi option for you graphics card (wild guess)
[23:07] <wmp> I have
[23:07] <sithlord48> any of you upgrade to 12.10 yet?
[23:08] <wmp> My graphic card is stupid...ao722 is good but on windows, on linux is tragedy
[23:09] <SIR_Taco_> sithlord48: yes
[23:10] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_: cool.  eveything go smoothly for you ?
[23:11] <SIR_Taco_> lost my proprietary drivers for my Radeon card on my laptop, but everything else and my desktop went fine
[23:11] <FlyingElvis> whats the konsole command to upgrade?
[23:12] <monkeyhybrid> Does Kubuntu 12.10 offer full disk encryption as an option during the normal install (don't have to use alternative install method)?
[23:12] <SIR_Taco_> FlyingElvis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:12] <FlyingElvis> ty SIR_Taco
[23:12] <SIR_Taco_> monkeyhybrid: yes
[23:12] <monkeyhybrid> coool, cheers SIR_Taco
[23:13] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_:  you should for safty remove any proprietary drivers before install , i have in the past lost my GUI badly from upgrades and not doing it..
[23:14] <FlyingElvis> interesting  that did not work....
[23:14] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_:  i also have Radeon propritary driver on laptop the deskop runs  the open source driver.
[23:14] <sithlord48> FlyingElvis:  your trying to upgrade what ?
[23:14] <FlyingElvis> kubuntu gfrom 12.04 to 12.10
[23:14] <FlyingElvis> from*
[23:14] <sithlord48> sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:15] <FlyingElvis> ty
[23:15] <SIR_Taco_> sithlord48: seems my HD3200 is no longer supported by AMD/ATI
[23:15] <sithlord48> you still need -d for some ready at the end idk why
[23:15] <sithlord48> so FlyingElvis : use sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[23:15] <SIR_Taco_> *with a 3.5.x kernel that is
[23:15] <sithlord48> oh very FlyingElvis nice.
[23:15] <sithlord48> oh SIR_Taco_ very nice that is  (typo much)
[23:17] <FlyingElvis> bbl...upgrading
[23:17] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_: the radeon driver is not that bad. it works just fine for my desktop.
[23:18] <wmp> SIR_Taco_: ok, thank for help
[23:18] <wmp> good night
[23:18] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_:  i even have sound out my HDMI port (HD4830)
[23:18] <wmp> sithlord48: what kernel?
[23:18] <SIR_Taco_> sithlord48: I agree it's 'not that bad' but it's not up to par with the AMD driver
[23:18] <sithlord48> 3.2.032
[23:18] <wmp> sithlord48: install 3.3 or later
[23:18] <wmp> good night
[23:19] <sithlord48> wmp:  upgrading to 12.10 atm..
[23:19] <SIR_Taco_> wmp: you're welcome, good night
[23:19] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_:  idk for my needs,basicly just desktop /some video and few games it does everything just fine.
[23:21] <SIR_Taco_> sithlord48: I get the odd frame lagging when watching a video with the Radeon drivers, that I didn't used to get. I don't really play games on my laptop
[23:23] <sithlord48> SIR_Taco_:  it could also be cause its a laptop version of the a card too. sometimes the manufacture will use differnt firmware on them
[23:23] <SIR_Taco_> sithlord48: true
[23:26] <sithlord48> the encryption via normal install is a good excuse to format my netbook..
[23:32] <sithlord48> does anyone know if you can use encryption with manual partition mode in the 12.10 installer?