[04:56] <viniciusarq> has anyone experienced in LXDE a loss of "transparency" in notification area in a panel when opening some software that add or remove a button in there?
[04:58] <holstein> with non transparent buttons
[04:59] <viniciusarq> like battery manager
[04:59] <viniciusarq> when i open xchat for example it kinda loses it fake transparency...
[05:00] <viniciusarq> that begins when i changed notification-daemon for xfce4-notifyd
[05:04] <viniciusarq> holstein, do you have an idea what may be the problem?
[05:09] <viniciusarq> brb
[05:13] <viniciusarq> yeah as i thought... the problem continues
[05:14] <redderhs> use tint2
[05:14] <redderhs> more customizable
[05:14] <NUCLEARWINTER> use tint2-svn
[05:14] <NUCLEARWINTER> even more
[05:16] <redderhs> its gonna take a little bit of work to get things properly set up, but in the end it's worth it.
[05:16] <viniciusarq> is it lighter than lxpanel?
[05:16] <redderhs> yes
[05:32] <viniciusarq> tks
[15:17] <zleap> is 12.10 officially out yet, 12.10 of ubuntu doesn't appear to be so i am guessing lubuntu 12.10 will be out after ubuntu 12.10
[15:18] <tsimpson> zleap: they generally all release at the same time
[15:18] <zleap> ok
[15:18] <tsimpson> so once "ubuntu" 12.10 is out, Lubuntu 12.10 will be out
[15:18] <zleap> i will keep checking then
[15:18] <infectedorganism> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.10/release/
[15:18] <infectedorganism> im assuming that is correct
[15:18] <infectedorganism> just grabbed it, about to install
[15:19] <zleap> hmm,  i would expect a big 12.10 is here on the ubuntu website
[15:19] <tsimpson> it's propagating through the mirrors, though there can be changes right up until the announcement (unlikely though)
[15:20] <zleap> k
[15:20] <infectedorganism> *shrugs* either way, doubt much has changed. if so, update manager will give me the changes
[15:20] <tsimpson> could be a change in the installer for example, so I'd advice you just wait until it's actually announced ;)
[15:21] <infectedorganism> point taken
[15:25] <wxl> yep exactly what i was going to say
[15:25] <wxl> !isitout
[16:51] <websterhamster> Can someone point me to the link for the lubuntu 12.10 ISO images?
[16:51] <wxl> !isitout
[16:52] <websterhamster> It says it is on the lubuntu.net homepage
[16:53] <wxl> where?
[16:53] <websterhamster> On the homepage, on the left sidebar, there's an image that says "Lubuntu 12.10 It's here!"
[16:54] <websterhamster> It links to GetLubuntu, but that page has no links to 12.10, only 12.04
[16:54] <wxl> then what does that tell you?
[16:55] <websterhamster> Guess all the websites that said it was coming out today were misinformed?
[16:55] <wxl> it's not "today" everywhere websterhamster
[16:55] <websterhamster> ohhh.... I get it ! <facepalm>
[16:55] <wxl> seriously join the party channel
[16:55] <wxl> or just keep hitting:
[16:55] <wxl> !isitout
[16:55] <wxl> uh
[16:55] <websterhamster> !isitout
[16:56] <wxl> :)
[16:56] <websterhamster> oh
[16:56] <websterhamster> thanks
[16:56] <wxl> that channel is practically a channel flood tho
[16:56] <wxl> insane
[16:56] <wxl> people are dying for their releases :)
[16:56] <wxl> < Shrikee:#ubuntu-release-party> omg i've been sitting here for hours
[16:56] <wxl> ;)
[17:11] <wxl> !isitout
[17:21] <wxl> it's out
[17:23] <NUCLEARWINTER> !isitout
[17:42] <leszek> hi
[17:43] <leszek> Its release day :)Download the new version right now.
[17:45] <skaet> lubuntu team,   congratulations on getting Lubuntu 12.10 released!     :)
[17:51] <Unit193> Heh, howdy skaet, leszek.  Danke.
[17:57]  * wxl bows
[20:29] <fds3> hi i have 2 questions, is lubuntu 12.10 released? , and how can i upgrade lubuntu 12.04 to lubuntu 12.10 if its released?
[20:33] <NUCLEARWINTER> !upgrade
[20:34] <fds3> thanks!
[20:34] <NUCLEARWINTER> so your update manager should tell you that there's 12.10
[20:34] <NUCLEARWINTER> or you can use do-release-upgrade command from terminal
[20:37] <Unit193> May need -d since 12.04 may think it is LTS.
[20:42] <wxl> do-release-update: wiping global configuration files since 2009
[22:34] <twrivera> hi does anyone have instructions on how to upgrade to lubuntu to 12.10 using 12.10 iso file?
[22:35] <twrivera> I downloaded the iso and I wanted to upgrade using the iso
[22:35] <redderhs> Just curious does pcmanfm crash for anyone to the point to where it cannot be executed again till restart? It wont even at this moment pull up the gui means of reporting a bug.
[22:36] <redderhs> 12.04 x64
[22:39] <bizhanMona> hi is there a lubuntu version of the 12.10 release? thx
[22:44] <twrivera> bizhanMona: yes
[22:44] <twrivera> out today
[22:47] <bizhanMona> twrivera: thank I just used the upgrade process and it is upgrading, thank you again.
[23:11] <twrivera> I figured it out you have to download the alternate iso and mount it then gksudo ./cdromupgrade
[23:12] <twrivera> my upgrade is running now on my netbook
[23:12] <twrivera> I hope it doesn't break anything
[23:14] <holstein> i never upgrade.. i find it so much faster to save the data and reinstall... i usually stick with lts's anyways
[23:19] <twrivera> holstein: I just hate having to reinstall all the apps and configuring everything
[23:19] <twrivera> it's annoying
[23:19] <holstein> i find it easier than fixing what might get broken
[23:20] <twrivera> I usually son't have many issues  crossing fingers :-)
[23:20] <holstein> i usually do a test upgrade...i dont cross fingers, i just do what works.. and if it works for you, great