[00:01] <bjsnider> jbicha, will do
[00:02] <bjsnider> RAOF, thanks. will do
[00:02] <bjsnider> oh, you already did it
[00:02] <RAOF> bjsnider: Well, you won't, because I've already done it :). But next time that's what you're after :)
[00:02] <bjsnider> ain't that a kick in the pants
[00:36] <bjsnider> jbicha, are you going to touch the changelog yourself, or should i worry about which pocket to use? should it be quantal or -proposed?
[00:38] <jbicha> bjsnider: yes, please add an entry to debian/changelog, you can leave the release at UNRELEASED if you like
[00:38] <bjsnider> coolio
[00:38] <jbicha> but at this point uploads will be rejected if they aren't for -proposed
[03:34] <pitti> Good morning
[03:44] <jasoncwarner_> Raring Ringtail indeed, bryce  ;)
[03:48] <kenvandine_> hey jasoncwarner_
[03:48] <jasoncwarner_> hey kenvandine_
[03:48] <jasoncwarner_> how are things?
[03:49] <kenvandine_> good
[03:49] <kenvandine_> looking forward to copenhagen :)
[03:49] <jasoncwarner_> kenvandine_: indeed! I leave here soon (you know...other side of hte world and all). I'm sure you get to leave on Sunday or something ;)
[03:50] <kenvandine_> yeah :)
[03:50] <kenvandine_> saturday
[03:50] <kenvandine_> arrive sunday morning :)
[03:50] <jasoncwarner_> so, you leave after me and you get in before me :/
[03:50] <kenvandine_> hehe
[03:51] <kenvandine_> i have just one stop this time too... i love that
[05:03] <didrocks> good morning
[05:09] <RAOF> Aloha didrocks!
[05:09] <didrocks> hey RAOF, seems we have name!
[05:09] <RAOF> Indeed. Hello, possums!
[05:10] <didrocks> :)
[05:10] <didrocks> how are you?
[05:11] <RAOF> Pretty good.
[05:41] <pitti> hey didrocks
[05:42] <didrocks> morning pitti
[05:42] <pitti> didrocks: feeling quantal today?
[05:42] <didrocks> pitti: more raging TBH! :)
[05:43] <pitti> didrocks: (not raring?)
[05:43] <pitti> too late for raging towards quantal, I guess
[05:43] <didrocks> pitti: ok, I already mispelled it once! :p
[05:44] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, had some fun yesterday with compiz… was my latest "raging towards quantal" I guess
[05:51]  * pitti hugs didrocks, amen
[05:51]  * didrocks hugs pitti back
[05:52]  * pitti is still impressed by "juju deploy --repository ~/ubuntu/charms local:jhbuild jhbuild"
[05:53] <pitti> (jibel's work)
[05:53] <didrocks> I want to have an opportunity to use juju, didn't get the time though :/
[05:53] <pitti> I just used it the first time yesterday
[05:54] <didrocks> pitti: you don't have too much the impression it's running scripts on your machine and that it can be fragile?
[05:54] <didrocks> (well, I trust jibel's scripting ;))
[05:55] <pitti> didrocks: well, I'm using the CanoniStack cloud, not local LXC containers
[05:55] <pitti> so it's not running that much on my workstation
[05:55] <didrocks> ah, ok, so you don't see the full remote story, just see the end result! :)
[05:55] <didrocks> I really need to take some time playing with that
[05:55] <pitti> but either way, all the charms run in containers/VMs, so they can hack up those pretty much any way they like
[05:56] <pitti> didrocks: well, you can see the log of what the charm does, all the apt-get installs, creating files, etc.
[05:56] <pitti> I wouldn't run _that_ part on my normal user account, of course
[05:56] <pitti> charms assume they have complete control over the machine
[05:57] <didrocks> pitti: ahah, something similar like the launchpad script? "If you had a postgresql database, you can wave it goodbye right now" :)
[05:57] <pitti> heh
[05:57] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, except that juju doesn't run them on your host
[05:57] <pitti> of course you could try hard and manually run the individual files/scripts in the charm, but ordinarily you wouldn't even have the actual charm on your machine
[05:58] <didrocks> yeah, sounds saner. I should try to play with that between my server and my laptop
[05:58] <didrocks> heh, indeed
[05:59] <pitti> didrocks: you can just use the CanoniStack for playing around; getting credentials is a matter of seconds, and there's no other registration etc. to do
[05:59] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, I think I'll try between now and Monday :)
[06:00] <didrocks> just need to find something to deploy to play with ;)
[06:04] <pitti> didrocks: how about jhbuild with https://code.launchpad.net/unity-jhbuild :)
[06:04] <didrocks> pitti: will have a try at that, yeah :)
[07:54] <smspillaz> desrt: hey I just saw your note about relocatable schemas on gddl - should we just change all of the ones in compiz to be relocatable=yes now ?
[07:54] <smspillaz> or will things break ?
[08:14] <rickspencer3> hey all
[08:14] <rickspencer3> whats the word on the street for 12.10 today?
[08:15] <bryce> hi rickspencer3
[08:16] <rickspencer3> heya bryce
[08:16] <seb128> rickspencer3, hey, we are getting close from release ;-)
[08:16] <rickspencer3> seb128, yeah ... any last issues, or does 12.10 seem baked and ready to go?
[08:16] <seb128> rickspencer3, it seems like the foundation guys finally managed to fix the secure boot issues that have been raising through the week
[08:17] <seb128> rickspencer3, looks good to me, fingers crossed!
[08:17] <rickspencer3> seb128, is there another respin planned for today? or was last nights the last one?
[08:17]  * rickspencer3 looks in #ubuntu-release ;)
[08:18] <seb128> rickspencer3, not respin planned that I know about
[08:18] <rickspencer3> \o/
[08:18]  * rickspencer3 goes back to champaign and cigars
[08:19] <didrocks> hey rickspencer3
[08:19] <rickspencer3> hey didrocks
[08:19]  * rickspencer3 burp
[08:19] <seb128> lol
[08:20] <didrocks> too much champaign already? :)
[08:20] <rickspencer3> yeah
[08:20] <rickspencer3> :)
[08:20] <rickspencer3> didrocks, seb128 are you guys raring for 13.04?
[08:21] <seb128> rickspencer3, really raring ryes ;-)
[08:21] <pitti> *chuckle*
[08:22] <seb128> rickspencer3, I learnt a few words again today :p
[08:22] <didrocks> rickspencer3: completely! and I want hope to see some opossums at UDS :)
[08:22] <pitti> rickspencer3: juju deploy beer!
[08:22] <didrocks> s/want//
[08:22] <seb128> pitti, hey ;-)
[08:22] <seb128> pitti, is that the new sudo make me a sandwish? :p
[08:22] <larsu> morning everyone
[08:22] <pitti> seb128: yeah, except that you can instantiate 10 beers at once
[08:22] <pitti> hey larsu
[08:23] <seb128> larsu, howdy
[08:23] <didrocks> seb128: seems you even don't need sudo, looks better :)
[08:23] <didrocks> hey larsu
[08:23] <pitti> seb128: I'm actually hacking on the jhbuild charm now, this is fun :)
[08:23] <seb128> pitti, waouh, that sounds like dangerous :p
[08:23]  * seb128 dispatches the beers around the channel
[08:23] <pitti> seb128: ze powah *burp* of ze c-c-c-loud
[08:23] <seb128> ;-)
[08:24] <larsu> beers at this time?
[08:25] <seb128> larsu, are you german or what? :p
[08:25] <larsu> seb128, ha, I guess you're right. And anyway, it's after 6 somewhere in the world...
[08:25] <seb128> larsu, and we don't release a quantal every day ;-)
[08:27] <bryce> rickspencer3, 13.04 is going to be awesome.  If only we could get unity working properly on nexus 7.  my kingdom for a nux developer!  ;-)
[08:27] <rickspencer3> bryce, we'll get there!
[08:28] <bryce> rickspencer3, yep
[08:28] <pitti> bryce: or for porting to gtk and clutter? :-)
 rickspencer3: juju deploy beer!
[08:28] <rickspencer3> LOL
[08:28]  * didrocks hopes the nux developers can first fix a FTBFS on armhf :)
[08:28] <rickspencer3> perfect
[08:28] <didrocks> (that we have for a week)
[08:28] <rickspencer3> hey, surely someone can hop into the nux code and take a look?
[08:28] <rickspencer3> :)
[08:28] <didrocks> rickspencer3: well, trying to get the integration team and upstream having a look for a week
[08:29] <rickspencer3> didrocks, I mean one you guys can take a look!
[08:29] <didrocks> rickspencer3: seems duflu just had a fix, crossing fingers
[08:29] <rickspencer3> sweet
[08:29] <rickspencer3> \o/
[08:29] <rickspencer3> that's great news
[08:29] <bryce> rickspencer3, trust me, plenty of hopping happening.  just none of us are experienced with nux
[08:29] <bryce> but we'll get it figured out, I'm sure.
[08:29] <rickspencer3> "plenty of hopping" ;)
[08:29] <didrocks> rickspencer3: had other work to do (ask seb, I wasn't waiting and crossing fingers even yesterday with some emergency compiz fixes I had to do)
[08:30] <rickspencer3> didrocks, well, I was thinking about people in addition to you :)
[08:30] <rickspencer3> for example, so far as I can tell, robert_ancel can do anything
[08:30] <rickspencer3> I remember he used to fix basicaly *any* problem while I slept in Seattle
[08:30] <rickspencer3> :)
[08:30] <seb128> ;-)
[08:31] <rickspencer3> he's wake up, I'd tell him about a problem, and it would be Fix Committed when I woke up
[08:31] <seb128> the rocking robert_ancell
[08:31] <rickspencer3> indeed!
[08:31] <rickspencer3> dang, I should call him about my personal life
[08:31] <rickspencer3> let him fix that while I sleep
[08:31] <seb128> lol
[08:31] <seb128> nah, it's all ours in desktop
[08:31] <bryce> in fact robert has got a nexus 7 now and is on the case.  RAOF too.  So I can't imagine the bug remaining unstomped for long.
[08:32] <seb128> you don't get to play that card anymore ;-)
[08:32] <seb128> it's->he's
[08:34] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[08:34] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson
[08:34]  * bryce waves to chrisccoulson 
[08:35] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks
[08:35]  * chrisccoulson waves to bryce
[08:35] <jibel> didrocks, I'm retesting compiz from -proposed, previous upgrade didn't pick the right version
[08:36] <didrocks> jibel: we already got 3 confirm in addition to you 2 from the ppa, please do if you have time, but it's not mandatory anymore I guess
[08:36] <rickspencer3> personally, I'm pretty happy with how 13.04 turned out
[08:36] <rickspencer3> we made some great progress with features
[08:36] <rickspencer3> and it is solid as a rock on my computers
[08:37] <didrocks> rickspencer3: you meant, 12.10? I guess
[08:37] <didrocks> do you have a secret preview of the 13.04 iso? ;)
[08:37] <rickspencer3> oops
[08:37] <rickspencer3> lol
[08:37] <rickspencer3> I mean 12.10
[08:37] <didrocks> rickspencer3: too late, I want the 13.04 iso! ;-)
[08:37] <rickspencer3> I am happy with how 12.10 turned out, and I'm pumped about 13.04
[08:39] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, you're not ambitious enough. you should be pushing for 14.04 already ;)
[08:40] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: speaking of being ambitious, I finally got the gdb stacktrace when thunderbird hangs on close for me
[08:40] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: want to have a look? :)
[08:40] <bryce> rickspencer3, me and my graphs.  Bu tI think it looks a lot better than past releases: http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/ubuntu-x-swat/Reports/totals-quantal-workqueue.svg
[08:41] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, oh, awesome. yes please :)
[08:41] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286546/
[08:41] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: so the ui has been closed for long (like hours)
[08:41] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: and when I try to click on the launcher icon "thunderbird is already running…"
[08:41] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, did you get the other threads by any chance?
[08:42] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: urgh, I thought I did thread apply all
[08:42] <chrisccoulson> it looks like it's waiting on another thread to finish something
[08:42] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: ok, for next time then :)
[08:42] <didrocks> I can try to close it and see if I get it today
[08:42] <chrisccoulson> heh, thanks
[08:42] <rickspencer3> for 13.04, let's default to gmail for the mail client!
[08:42] <rickspencer3> we have webapps now, afterall
[08:43] <didrocks> rickspencer3: well, I think more something like:
[08:43] <rickspencer3> hey bryce looking good!
[08:43] <didrocks> - click on the indicator message
[08:43] <didrocks> ask "please enter your email address"
[08:43] <didrocks> if you enter anything @gmail.com or other things that have good web support -> use a webapps
[08:44] <didrocks> otherwise, install thunderbird on demand
[08:44] <rickspencer3> nice
[08:44] <rickspencer3> @yahoo.com -> web apps
[08:44] <didrocks> right :)
[08:44] <rickspencer3> parfait
[08:44] <didrocks> "smart desktop" :)
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, oh, i might not need to see the other threads
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> in frame 5, "mayWait=true" is definitely wrong
[08:58] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: oh?
[08:59] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I tried to close/open it again a lot… but didn't really get it stalled (I get it quite regularly, like every 2/3 days after a day of thunderbird running)
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, oh, i can see a race in shutdown actually. at least, i think i can.
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> well, it looks too obvious to me as well, so i must be wrong ;)
[09:04] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: waow, if you want to get te fix tested, I can try in a ppa for several days :)
[10:07] <seb128> chrisccoulson, didn't firefox used to display a launcher progress bar while downloading? seems to not work for me on quantal...
[10:10] <chrisccoulson> seb128, you need my unityfox addon installed
[10:11] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hum, we don't do that by default?
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> seb128, no, i don't want any more addons in the default install. we have enough already ;)
[10:11] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I probably had it before having webapps screwing my addons a few weeks back
[10:12] <chrisccoulson> yeah, possibly
[10:12] <seb128> need to reinstall it
[10:12] <seb128> chrisccoulson, well, we should have our default browser integrated with our default desktop ;-)
[10:12] <tseliot> seb128: what's up with pidgin and bug #1040259?
[10:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1040259 in skype-wrapper "FFE: libmessaging-menu transitions for quantal" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040259
[10:12] <seb128> tseliot, somebody needs to port pidgin-libnotify to libmessaging-menu
[10:13] <chrisccoulson> seb128, oh, if you go to the addon manager and type "unity" in to the searchbox, it's the first result that appears here :)
[10:13] <tseliot> seb128: just that?
[10:14] <larsu> seb128, btw: I have a 70% port of liferea lying around somewhere. I'll try to finish it before UDS
[10:15] <seb128> tseliot, "just" ... it's always "just" code? ;-)
[10:15] <seb128> larsu, great
[10:15] <tseliot> seb128: I was wondering if other components were involved :)
[10:15] <seb128> no
[10:15] <tseliot> ok
[10:15] <seb128> do you want to have a go at the update? ;-)
[10:16] <tseliot> seb128: probably, I need to check the code first
[10:16] <seb128> I meant to do it but release went crazy with other things
[10:16] <seb128> so if you want to do that would be great
[10:20] <tseliot> ok, I'll think about it
[10:20] <tseliot> thanks
[10:21] <seb128> thank you for thinking about it ;-)
[10:22] <larsu> seb128, do you want to backport http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-messages/trunk.13.04/revision/323
[10:22] <larsu> it fixes the geary crash
[10:25] <didrocks> robru: hey, already up? isn't that early for you?
[10:26] <robru> didrocks: no... haven't slept yet I'm afraid ;-)
[10:26] <didrocks> robru: ok, the other way around, it's even worse ;-)
[10:26] <robru> didrocks: yeah... but I'm doing some work though, so it's not wasted time ;-)
[10:26] <didrocks> heh ;)
[10:27] <seb128> larsu, is that happening often? we can backport sure, but we can also wait if there are a bit more to backport or if other issues are raised after release
[10:28] <larsu> seb128, I heard geary removed messaging menu integration because of it (I'm not entirely sure though)
[10:28] <larsu> seb128, the crash should happen for all applications that call register(); unregister(); register();
[10:29] <larsu> (I don't know why geary would do that by the way)
[10:29] <seb128> larsu, where did you hear that? (geary has messaging menu integration broken in quantal because they have a stupid build system and they turned it off  in 0.2.1 is intltool is not installed and we didn't have it in build-depends)
[10:30] <seb128> larsu, I've a uploaded a fixed geary yesterday, it's waiting to be approved in the queue
[10:30] <larsu> seb128, hm, alright, let's wait a little then. At least for a fix to bug 1065169
[10:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1065169 in indicator-messages "segfault when used in plugin load, unload, load cycle" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065169
[10:30] <seb128> larsu, ok
[10:31] <larsu> oh, there's a branch on there now... just without a merge request
[11:42] <tsdgeos> do you guys know what defines GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID ?
[11:45] <seb128> tsdgeos, gnome-session
[11:45] <tsdgeos> seb128: ok
[11:45] <tsdgeos> it's weird, may it be that yesterday wasn't defined?
[11:45] <tsdgeos> i do remember trying something yesterday that depends on it being there and failed and today doesn't fail anymore
[11:45] <seb128> tsdgeos, yesterday wasn't defined?
[11:46] <seb128> tsdgeos, that variable is deprecated for years but the code didn't change for years either
[11:46] <seb128> GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
[11:46] <tsdgeos> yep
[11:46] <seb128> gnome-session/main.c:        gsm_util_setenv ("GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID", "this-is-deprecated");
[11:46] <tsdgeos> must have been a PEBKAC then
[11:46] <seb128> or you started something from an environment with is not gnome-session's one
[11:47] <seb128> like DISPLAY=... command from a vt
[11:47] <seb128> ?
[11:47] <tsdgeos> hmmmm
[11:47] <tsdgeos> maybe i was restarting unity from the vt
[11:47] <tsdgeos> that might have happened
[11:50] <tsdgeos> i'll have a nother question about gconf/gsettings/dconf whatnot
[11:50] <tsdgeos> but that'll be after lunch
[11:50]  * tsdgeos waves
[14:54] <tsdgeos> we don't use gconf anymore, right?
[14:55] <Laney> it is still used, but we're working towards getting rid of it
[14:56] <tsdgeos> ok
[14:56] <tsdgeos> because i see Qt tries to get the icon theme from /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme in gconf
[14:57] <tsdgeos> and that is not the correct info anymore, right?
[15:12] <mitya57> tsdgeos: that key contains right icon theme in Ubuntu, but one can't rely on it
[15:13] <mitya57> tsdgeos: see https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-25718
[15:13] <tsdgeos> mitya57: does it contain the right icon theme?
[15:13] <tsdgeos> not when i change it
[15:15] <mitya57> tsdgeos: neither gnome-control-center nor gnome-tweak tool change the gconf entry
[15:15] <mitya57> but by default it contains ubuntu-mono-dark
[15:15] <tsdgeos> mitya57: right, that's the problem
[15:15] <tsdgeos> once i change the setting using gnome-control-center
[15:15] <tsdgeos> it changes a different key (i can see it change in dconf-editor)
[15:16] <tsdgeos> but not that one
[15:16] <tsdgeos> thus we should patch it to watch that key (or patch g-c-c to change the other one)
[15:16] <tsdgeos> because to be honest i don't see the Qt guys fixing that by themselves
[15:16] <mitya57> tsdgeos: the correct fix will be making Qt reading the icon theme from XSettings
[15:17] <mitya57> http://standards.freedesktop.org/xsettings-spec/xsettings-spec-0.5.html
[15:17] <mitya57> it'll make it work on most DEs if not all
[15:18] <mitya57> tsdgeos: from that bug report ^^:
[15:18] <mitya57> Jerome Leclanche: "One of our Razor-Qt developers is working on this afaik."
[15:19] <tsdgeos> been on that 4 months
[15:19] <tsdgeos> for what is probably a 50 lines patch :D
[15:19] <tsdgeos> anyway
[15:19] <tsdgeos> if we are not interested in fixing stuff
[15:19] <tsdgeos> fair enough
[15:20] <mitya57> I'll now add a comment asking what is the progress
[15:22] <mitya57> ... done
[15:23] <mitya57> and that's not a "50 lines patch", as Qt doesn't yet have any XSettings implementation
[15:24] <tsdgeos> well, you have to read an X property and decode it
[15:24] <tsdgeos> from a quick look to that spec
[15:24] <tsdgeos> can't be that hard
[15:26] <mitya57> another problem is that gtk reads "gtk-icon-theme-name" property (and all DEs (even KDE) set it),
[15:26] <mitya57> and I'm not sure if Qt developers will appreciate it reading something that contains gtk in its name...
[15:26]  * Laney stabs webkit
[15:27] <Laney> micahg: you know how you wanted to maintain it? :) :) :)
[15:27] <tsdgeos> to be honest the spec is a big short on stuff
[15:27] <tsdgeos> it doesn't even mention names
[15:27] <mitya57> oh, I got a reply from Jerome, he says they "ran out of time to work on it".
[15:27] <tsdgeos> probably because noone really adopted it besides gnome
[15:28] <tsdgeos> making it "one of those specs"
[15:28] <mitya57> tsdgeos: that's sad, but using it still seems the most universal way for me
[15:30] <tsdgeos> maybe
[15:47] <bjsnider> jbicha, you saw that debdiff i made right?
[15:52] <jbicha> bjsnider: yes, but I haven't had time to get to it because of the release today
[15:52] <bjsnider> ok, just making sure you saw it. i also built it and tested it here, and it works.
[16:31] <chrisccoulson> hah, https://twitter.com/JBarol/status/258271137702756352/photo/1
[16:32] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: at least, they don't cheat :)
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, actually, when you get that tb hang again, can you get a trace with all threads? the race that i thought existed actually might not exist, and this might just be a case of a thread that never returns to its main loop (ie, it's hung)
[17:27] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: sure, will do :)
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> thanks :)
[17:28] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, i'll try and figure out if there's a way to identify the actual thread too
[17:29] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: ok, I'll thread apply all first, as I generally get that in the morning way before you wake up :)
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, ok, if you could switch to the frame where nsThread::Shutdown is, and do "call (char*)PR_GetThreadName(mThread)", then that will tell you the name of the hanging thread if it has one
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> although, not all threads have a name
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> in fact, it looks like most thunderbird threads don't have names. but most threads that are common to firefox and thunderbird do have them
[17:40] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: sure, will do
[17:52] <bcurtiswx> Congrats everyone on 12.10 :)
[20:46] <chrisccoulson> i like this bit inbetween release and UDS. i actually get a chance to finish things :)
[20:50] <kenvandine> yeah :)
[20:50] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, although it's short this cycle
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, it's probably shorter for you ;)
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> i've got a whole week to work on stuff next week :)
[20:52] <kenvandine> yeah... i leave saturday
[20:52] <kenvandine> i get 2 days :)
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> heh
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> i'm wondering whether getting overlay scrollbars working before UDS might be a bit ambitious, with only 1 week
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> i didn't realize it was quite that short
[20:58] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, you can do it!
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> brb, need to see what tooltips look like without compositing
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> ok, the answer is "bad". sigh :(
[21:57] <Dino901> Does anyone here have experience with using a touchscreen display with Ubuntu?