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Daphko | hello, has anybody a good instruction to setup an mailserver on ubuntu ? | 00:36 |
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SpamapS | !server-guide | 00:53 |
SpamapS | ^server-guide | 00:53 |
uvirtbot | SpamapS: Error: "server-guide" is not a valid command. | 00:53 |
patdk-lap | !serverguide | 00:54 |
ubottu | The Ubuntu server guide may be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ | 00:54 |
SpamapS | Daphko: ^^ | 00:55 |
* SpamapS wishes bots would just work w/ natural language | 00:55 | |
patdk-lap | well, atleast it does pat-speak :) | 00:58 |
Daphko | thx | 01:00 |
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level15_ | hi, all. I am having massive kernel errors on my linux guests when my host has intensive I/O usage (VM images backup operations). Sometimes, the guest kernel will remount the fs in read only mode, which obviously crashes most of my services. I have been reading and have found that this might be related to host I/O cache, and that it might be a good idea to turn it off by settiong cache=none for all disks of my guests. Is that safe in case of a | 01:16 |
level15_ | host failure? Has anyone had the same issue and, if so, how did you solve it? Thanks. | 01:16 |
SpamapS | level15_: cache=none is safe, yes. | 01:19 |
level15_ | SpamapS: thanks | 01:19 |
SpamapS | level15_: it may result in slower burst I/O speeds, but thats whats killing you now anyway (lots of bursts that hammer the cache) | 01:19 |
sarnold | level15_: that somehow reminds me of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1064521 | 01:19 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1064521 in linux "Kernel I/O scheduling writes starving reads, local DoS" [Medium,Triaged] | 01:19 |
level15_ | reading... | 01:21 |
SpamapS | sarnold: that looks AIO related | 01:21 |
level15_ | I also read something about setting AIO to threads | 01:22 |
sarnold | SpamapS: oh? I may have missed that... | 01:22 |
level15_ | in KVM | 01:22 |
sarnold | SpamapS: does kvm do AIO or async io or mmap or blocking ..? | 01:22 |
SpamapS | I don't think it goes through user space.. | 01:23 |
level15_ | the bug report suggest changing the i/o scheduler... that would be on the host, not the guests, correct? And for that to work, I would need to reboot the host. Correct? | 01:23 |
SpamapS | sarnold: I don't know enough to answer intelligently tho | 01:23 |
SpamapS | looks like you have to pass aio=native to turn on AIO | 01:24 |
SpamapS | level15_: no not correct | 01:25 |
level15_ | I read threads was better than native | 01:25 |
SpamapS | level15_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-io-scheduler-for-harddisk/ | 01:25 |
sarnold | SpamapS: drat :) | 01:25 |
level15_ | SpamapS: good! thanks! | 01:25 |
SpamapS | level15_: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fliaat%2Fliaatbpkvmasynchio.htm | 01:26 |
SpamapS | level15_: no hard data there, but "tests show it improves thigns" blah blah | 01:26 |
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level15_ | SpamapS: So i should use a raw device instead of files... I would have liked to know that before i set up my VMs :-S | 01:31 |
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SpamapS | level15_: thats a pretty common paradigm. Files are only for convenience | 01:42 |
sarnold | but man they are convenient. :) | 01:48 |
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level15_ | thanks for your help earlier today. | 03:23 |
trimeta | I run a home server, which gives me the landscape-based system info whenever I log in. I like this, but I'd like to configure exactly what landscape shows, rather than just seeing the default info. Is there a way to find a sample /etc/landscape/client.conf (or even a landscape-sysinfo man page) without installing the full landscape-client package which doesn't make any sense with a single-server setup? (E.g., a setup wh | 03:33 |
trimeta | Hmm, aptitude show suggests that landscape-client is more about integrating with Ubuntu's cloud infrastructure. I don't want that either; I'm happy to just ssh into my own server. I'd just like to configure what appears when I do so. | 03:34 |
tedski | I'm trying to get 12.04 ready for production to migrate our systems off lucid... we use nis netgroups in ldap and i'm noticing a bug in libpam-modules (pam_access.so specifically) 1.1.3-7ubuntu3. I read that this is fixed in > 1.1.3 but I notice quetzal still has 1.1.3. I tried quetzal's build anyway, but to no avail. If i bring in pam_access.so from a 1.1.1 machine (lucid has 1.1.1), it works fine. What is my best course of action at this point? | 03:42 |
tedski | should I build my own package using pam 1.1.5? | 03:42 |
tedski | should I roll all systems back to lucid's working version of libpam-modules? | 03:42 |
tedski | or is there a more sane way to get an updated version of libpam-modules? | 03:43 |
ReekenX | tedski: First question: is mirgration really important or it can just wait? | 03:47 |
tedski | it's important | 03:47 |
tedski | and a coworker may or may not have already allowed a few precise boxes in prod :( | 03:47 |
tedski | hence my penchant for a shitty workaround | 03:48 |
ReekenX | Well I don't know maybe others have different opinion, but in your place I would just build my own package and when apt repositories will update you will receive developers build package. | 03:50 |
ScottK | tedski: If you can find the exact change from upstream that fixed it, we can get a post-release update done, but in the meantime, if you've tested bringing the lucid package forward and it works in your use case, it's not insane. | 03:50 |
tedski | ScottK: yeah, i haven't tested the whole package, just pam_access.so | 03:51 |
tedski | ScottK: i'll see if i can find the change in the upstream release | 03:52 |
tedski | ReekenX: thanks for the advice, that's what i'll do in the meantime | 03:52 |
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tedski | hrmm... okay... so it is fixed in Linux-PAM-1.1.5 and the fix is somewhere in here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286316/ | 04:33 |
tedski | i'll poke at it a bit more tomorrow and nail down the exact fix | 04:33 |
SpamapS | Man, I used to think NIS was dead | 04:37 |
tedski | heh | 04:37 |
SpamapS | but the number of bug reports I see about it make me think twice | 04:37 |
SpamapS | I mean, it is walking dead, no doubt | 04:38 |
tedski | it is | 04:38 |
tedski | and this is nis migrated to ldap | 04:38 |
tedski | yay for legacy | 04:38 |
ScottK | tedski: Once you get it nailed down, file a bug with the patch and steps for reproducing the issue. Then give me a ping with the bug number and I"ll look at getting it in. | 04:40 |
tedski | ScottK: sweet.. thanks, will do | 04:40 |
* tedski & | 04:41 | |
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chovynz | how do I make functions and where are they stored? | 08:43 |
melmoth | chovynz, what do you mean by functions ? | 08:48 |
chovynz | alias wouldthiswork='find ~ -name "* *" -type f && $(($(find ~ -name "* *" -type f | wc -l -printf 1+)0))' what im trying to do, is list all files that have spaces, then number them. I currently have success. But I want to pass the result of the second find to a variable so I can say echo there are <variable> files that have spaces. Someone suggested I use functions instead of alias | 08:50 |
melmoth | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-8.html | 08:50 |
chovynz | melmoth: where does the function go? in bashrc or in .bash_aliases ? | 08:52 |
melmoth | .bashrc i think | 08:53 |
melmoth | or any file you source before calling it | 08:53 |
chovynz | .bash_aliases is being sourced anyway, so could I continue to use that but with a function inside, instead of an alias? | 08:54 |
melmoth | try :) | 08:57 |
chovynz | lol | 08:57 |
chovynz | melmoth: -bash: /home/nathaniel/.bash_aliases: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `(' -bash: /home/nathaniel/.bash_aliases: line 1: `spacef() {' what am i doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286580/ | 09:08 |
chovynz | oops | 09:08 |
melmoth | works here | 09:09 |
chovynz | how do you get it to work? | 09:10 |
melmoth | i mean i just pasted the function ina file, sourced it and launched spacef | 09:10 |
chovynz | whats the output? | 09:10 |
melmoth | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1286581/ | 09:11 |
melmoth | it s still running :) | 09:11 |
melmoth | i m not sure about what the find is doing | 09:11 |
melmoth | but i can call the function all right | 09:11 |
melmoth | well, it show the number of file but $spacef is not correctly set | 09:12 |
melmoth | it s actually.. not set at all | 09:12 |
chovynz | the find is trying to find all files with a space in it, | 09:12 |
chovynz | how do i set it lol | 09:12 |
melmoth | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1286585/ | 09:13 |
chovynz | ah | 09:14 |
chovynz | $me=dumby. echo chovynz is $me | 09:15 |
chovynz | melmoth: i would kiss you even if you were a hedgehog | 09:18 |
chovynz | thank you very much | 09:18 |
* melmoth think nobody knows you are a dog on the internet :-) | 09:20 | |
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pitti | hello everyone | 10:48 |
pitti | I've got a question aboutu charms again | 10:48 |
pitti | I checked out jibel's jhbuild charm and was making some edits to it, in particular hooks/install | 10:48 |
pitti | (locally, nothing committed to LP) | 10:49 |
pitti | I run this as "juju deploy --repository ~/ubuntu/charms local:jhbuild jhbuild-test" | 10:49 |
pitti | shoudl this use the actual files in ~/ubuntu/charms/quantal/jhbuild/* ? | 10:49 |
pitti | because every time I do this, the thing that lands in the newly created VMs is the old version without my changes | 10:50 |
pitti | what does seem to help is to run upgrade-charm afterwards | 10:59 |
pitti | I even bumped revision, but it still seems to deploy revision 1 | 10:59 |
pitti | is that cached somewhere? | 10:59 |
melmoth | pitti, i think you need to increment your charm revision file | 11:04 |
pitti | that's what I tried after the first failed attempt | 11:04 |
pitti | but after bumping it still deployed versino 1 | 11:04 |
pitti | I now destroyed teh whole env and re-bootstrapping | 11:04 |
pitti | melmoth: where in the stack does it cache the old revisions? | 11:05 |
melmoth | i have no idea | 11:05 |
* melmoth is a juju n00b | 11:05 | |
pitti | ok, thanks | 11:05 |
pitti | destroying env & re-bootstrap helped | 11:06 |
pitti | but that can't be the final answer | 11:07 |
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skaet | hiya, anyone around that can help us finish off the testing of Ubuntu Server for 12.10? We've still got some manditory tests that need to be run: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds | 12:03 |
DevilsOwn | 1 | 12:12 |
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ubsrv | hi, trying to install a packet using ppa geting this probleme , http://pastebin.com/YJFSsWuV | 13:38 |
TLoT | is that a private PPA? | 13:39 |
TLoT | i'm assuming so since the team its connected to doesnt show for normal people | 13:40 |
ubsrv | its open bravo comunity edition for ubuntu servers | 13:40 |
TLoT | ubsrv: you sure that ppa link is right? | 13:41 |
TLoT | the format returns a 404 when i convert it to its LP link | 13:41 |
ubsrv | yes right ! | 13:41 |
subman | I'm installing Ubuntu Server for the first time and it seems to have stalled after successfully configuring the network. No error, just a purple screen. | 13:42 |
tedski | ubsrv: according to open bravo's documentation... you're using the wrong ppa | 13:43 |
TLoT | ubsrv: nnnope. https://launchpad.net/~openbravoisv fails. try using ppa:openbravo-isv/ppa instead | 13:43 |
tedski | add-apt-repository ppa:openbravo-isv/ppa | 13:43 |
TLoT | and you're probably using the wrong ppa if you're using the wrong link | 13:43 |
TLoT | which i said already, your link was likely wrong. | 13:43 |
tedski | that's from http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu | 13:43 |
ubsrv | thx guyz ! | 13:46 |
jamespage | bug 1067929 | 14:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1067929 in maas "maas-region-celeryd connects to the wrong queue." [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067929 | 14:10 |
hggdh | matsubara: how's the maas test going? | 15:05 |
matsubara | hggdh, bad | 15:07 |
matsubara | hggdh, trying to figure out why the nodes are not enlisting at the moment in the lab | 15:07 |
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hallyn | SpamapS: hi, could you pls accept https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=lxc soon? or if you won't get a chance, lemme know and i may add 2-3 bugs to that queue | 15:16 |
hallyn | stgraber: it looks like you haven't merged my github.com/hallyn/lxc with lxc-oracle? I'm going to push his last patch to there now, so when you do merge it you can get it all at once (in a few mins) | 15:25 |
stgraber | hallyn: ok, sounds good | 15:26 |
stgraber | hallyn: a bit busy with release, should have time to pull later today or tomorrow | 15:26 |
acidflash | ubuntu server 12.04 -> I am trying to add nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces ; isnt it added like this -> nameserver 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 | 15:27 |
stgraber | acidflash: dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 | 15:29 |
acidflash | stgraber: has it changed from nameserver to dns-nameservers ? | 15:30 |
SpamapS | hallyn: SRU processing is about 2 weeks behind right now | 15:31 |
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stgraber | acidflash: no | 15:31 |
hallyn | stgraber: understood, thanks! | 15:34 |
hallyn | stgraber: latest patch pushed to staging.oct15.1.d | 15:38 |
acidflash | ok i figured that i would just change it in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail | 15:38 |
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anomaly | I have ssmtp setup, where root is sending emails without issue. what am I missing, because I can not send email as a user. I get the error "send-mail: Cannot open mailhub:25" | 16:31 |
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ANDwlkp | what is the best chose bacula, amanda or other system to backup data? | 16:48 |
ANDwlkp | do you have any idea? | 16:48 |
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alysur | hey | 17:17 |
alysur | Can someone point me to a channel to help with website troubles running LAMP on ubuntu server? | 17:17 |
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TheInfinity | heyho | 17:24 |
TheInfinity | i have a 64bit system with a cups printing server (via samba). i just upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04. now my 32bit printer driver does not work any more. | 17:25 |
TheInfinity | what would be the best way to get it back working (and btw - why did just force install work before - and now it fails?) | 17:25 |
RoyK | it fails if there are dependencies that can't be resolved | 17:26 |
RoyK | please pastebin errors | 17:26 |
TheInfinity | RoyK: just force install results into a dependency problem and into non working filters | 17:27 |
TheInfinity | which is trange, in 10.04 everything was ok, also the filters (/usr/lib/cups/filter/ | 17:28 |
alysur | there can be problems upgrading versions, what method did you use? | 17:31 |
TheInfinity | do-system-upgrade | 17:31 |
RoyK | or do-release-upgrade | 17:32 |
TheInfinity | yea i meant this ;) | 17:32 |
TheInfinity | http://pastebin.com/GSTDBruY | 17:32 |
alysur | ok good | 17:33 |
alysur | lol thats about all i know about upgrading with minimal problems | 17:34 |
alysur | still learning what i can. | 17:34 |
TheInfinity | alysur: eben zimbra was no problem. upgrade was really, really smoth (when i remember dapper ... huh!). but this printer driver ... huh. -.- | 17:35 |
TheInfinity | *even | 17:35 |
alysur | anyone able to point me to a channel more appropriate for php parsing problems? | 17:35 |
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alysur | I often just backup necesary files and then do fresh installs of ubuntu and then reload the data i need back onto the machine, i view it as a safer method | 17:36 |
RoyK | TheInfinity: I'd say file a bug, but please set LC_ALL=C before filing it, since not all people understands German ;) | 17:36 |
alysur | might just be paranoid though +P | 17:36 |
alysur | ich verstehe nicht | 17:37 |
TheInfinity | RoyK: the deb is a i386 deb ... which is the problem at all. the main problem is - what's the right way to use 32bit printer drivers in 64bit systems? | 17:38 |
sarnold | warum nicht? :) | 17:38 |
RoyK | TheInfinity: there seems to be conflicts between libs | 17:38 |
alysur | running a 64bit version? | 17:39 |
* TheInfinity runs a 64 bit server, yea | 17:39 | |
alysur | I had problems that i was directed to make sure i downloaded the 32bit libraries | 17:39 |
RoyK | does anyone run 32bit OSes anymore? ;) | 17:39 |
TheInfinity | RoyK: ... at a server? ;= | 17:39 |
alysur | i do, on 32 bit systems =P | 17:39 |
RoyK | well, not much choice | 17:39 |
* RoyK only has a couple of ARM machines on 32bit | 17:40 | |
alysur | not a server, that was a desktop enviornment, but i remember having troubles running 32bit applications on a 64bit version | 17:40 |
RoyK | alysur: afaics this isn't a 32/64bit problem, but a problem with older libs installed than what's needed | 17:41 |
alysur | alrighty, i never did get the 32bit apps running . not really relavent here though | 17:42 |
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TheInfinity | ok that's scary. first time i tried apt-get -f install's only sollution was to uninstall my driver package. now - i do not think i changed anything - it provides an solution which installs several i386 libs | 17:42 |
TheInfinity | wtf Oo | 17:42 |
TheInfinity | i dont like different behaviour at same request. | 17:42 |
sarnold | TheInfinity: there were a few hours yesterday with busted mirrors; did you perhaps get the "remove" option during those hours? | 17:42 |
TheInfinity | sarnold: everything yesterday | 17:43 |
TheInfinity | *today | 17:43 |
TheInfinity | in the last 6 houres | 17:43 |
sarnold | ah, then ignore me again ;) | 17:43 |
alysur | ill be back in a short bit here | 17:43 |
TheInfinity | sarnold: but thanks, such "minor" issues often have quite unhealthy results :) | 17:43 |
sarnold | TheInfinity: yes, I spent half an hour investigating my own local system before questioning the mirrors... hehe. | 17:44 |
RoyK | http://www.ubuntu.com/ <-- :D | 17:50 |
TheInfinity | wow | 17:57 |
TheInfinity | this seems to work | 17:57 |
TheInfinity | i have _no_ idea how ubuntu decides that this specific cups filters have to be run in 32bit mode | 17:57 |
sarnold | TheInfinity: was the filter produced by xerox or something, and just provided as a binary blob? | 17:58 |
TheInfinity | and i habe also no idea why ubuntu offered me this time the 32bit lib solution | 17:58 |
TheInfinity | sarnold: binary blob, it's a dell printer which seems to be a relabled fuji xerox | 17:59 |
sarnold | hahaha | 17:59 |
sarnold | how's that for confusing? :() | 17:59 |
sarnold | :) | 17:59 |
TheInfinity | i have _no_ idea what dell, xerox and fuji had in mind when they developed this. i hope nothing. i'm afraid it's pure sadism -.- | 18:00 |
patdk-wk | well, dell doesn't make anything, it's all rebranded stuff | 18:13 |
patdk-wk | well, I guess the do make their motherboards, or have them made for them | 18:14 |
RoyK | patdk-wk: Dell has bought a few companies over the time, and thus are making their own things more and more | 18:22 |
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RoyK | such as EqualLogic SANs | 18:22 |
patdk-wk | ya, that is the only oneI can think of | 18:22 |
RoyK | which I have begun to get a rather bad feeling about | 18:22 |
RoyK | no checksumming, just trusting drives' ECC | 18:22 |
RoyK | bad indeed | 18:22 |
RoyK | the chance for a checksum collision on most drives are low, said to be 1:10^14 or 1:10^15, in practice perhaps 1:10^12 | 18:23 |
RoyK | still a high number, unless you have a truckload of drives | 18:24 |
RoyK | better use something sane like ZFS :รพ | 18:24 |
l0p3n | Hello! I am trying to load ubuntu-server iso from grub but I am failing. Could someone please take a look at the commands I'm using and tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/4NTFqexJ | 18:49 |
sarnold | l0p3n: perhaps a forgotten 'insmod fat'? | 18:55 |
sarnold | l0p3n: you also have hyphens before noprompt and noeject -- is that intentional? (unlikely to be related) | 18:55 |
TheInfinity | thanks for everything, especially @ RoyK :) | 19:00 |
RoyK | :) | 19:01 |
l0p3n | sarnold: Oh I see that now. But I did use --noeject and --noprompt in grub. And I have also tried using insmod fat. | 19:07 |
l0p3n | sarnold: When I followed the steps in the tutorial using an Ubuntu-desktop image I had no problems booting the image. I just can't understand why I can't do the same thing with a ubuntu-server-image :/ | 19:09 |
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Sentynel | hi folks, just upgraded my ec2 server to 12.10 and it won't boot. I suspect grub is broken; the server starts up but fails EC2's reachability check, and nothing is getting written to /var/log/boot* or anything. I've got the root volume mounted to another ec2 server and chrooted in, but running grub-install fails saying "path /boot/grub is not readable by grub on boot." | 20:37 |
Sentynel | I also tried just running update-grub, which ran with no complaints but didn't make any difference | 20:38 |
Sentynel | any suggestions? | 20:38 |
hallyn | Sentynel: is /boot a different drive? did you mount it? any errors upon mounting? any drives full by chance? | 20:48 |
Sentynel | hallyn: no, single volume. I mounted it and chrooted in. there's plenty of space on the drive. | 20:49 |
RoyK | call amazon | 20:49 |
patdk-lap | hmm, the drive was setup at sector 2048 or higher right? | 21:11 |
Sentynel | whatever the amazon defaults are | 21:11 |
patdk-lap | I know many people where having issues cause grub breaks the 32k limit now | 21:11 |
Sentynel | it's worked fine for the last year and two upgrades | 21:11 |
patdk-lap | yes, but you said you upgraded | 21:11 |
Sentynel | hrm | 21:11 |
patdk-lap | and upgrade from what install would matter | 21:11 |
Sentynel | it was originally 11.04 | 21:11 |
patdk-lap | so it should be, but I can't confirm | 21:12 |
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chovynz | I have a bunch of music on my server, what can I use to get them served? currently I can access them via http, but that's clunky. What program (on both ends), one that serves, and one that controls or can make their own playlist independantly of other computers? | 21:28 |
diogo_79 | hi guys | 21:46 |
diogo_79 | i have install ubuntu server 12.04 | 21:46 |
diogo_79 | and i am having trouble to install modem 56k | 21:47 |
diogo_79 | is this possible? | 21:47 |
diogo_79 | i want to use this server has a fax server | 21:47 |
diogo_79 | but i need to install a modem | 21:47 |
diogo_79 | i have us robotics cr-21 56k pci | 21:48 |
diogo_79 | but i cannot get it to work | 21:48 |
sarnold | what fails? | 21:49 |
dannf | sudo start | 21:49 |
dannf | oops | 21:49 |
paco1 | hello @ll! | 22:03 |
paco1 | im creating a dns test server with ubuntu server 12.04. I have problems with the new resolvconf configuration. In fact, with ubuntu server 10.04, with the same configs dns files, all works fine | 22:04 |
paco1 | and i think the problem is resolvconf | 22:09 |
paco1 | i don't know really how to setup it, meanwhile there are a lot of documentations | 22:10 |
paco1 | for exemple, what is the difference between dns-search and dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces and search and namserver in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base? | 22:13 |
paco1 | thamks very much | 22:13 |
hallyn | smb`: filed bug 1068365 about the openvswitch problem. gotta go, bbl. | 22:19 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1068365 in linux "openvswitch gre tunnels not working in quantal" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068365 | 22:19 |
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