[00:00] <zykotick9> jrib: i'd say anything suggesting adding 10.10 repos to 10.04 is questionable material anyways ;)
[00:00] <darkprincess> Nope found it.
[00:00] <ccbn> darkprincess: cool, good luck, i gotta go, others should be able to help if you still have questions, good luck!
[00:01] <darkprincess> Kk Thanks!
[00:01] <jrib> zykotick9: *nod*
[00:01] <jrib> john_doe_jr: hold on, let me grab a 12.04 iso really quick
[00:02] <john_doe_jr> jrib: man thank you so much for all your help!  Will you have to do a sudo apt-get update  and a sudo apt-get upgrade…that might take some time
[00:03] <john_doe_jr> jrib: it's 64bit 12.04 Server
[00:04] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well at least 10 minutes to download
[00:04] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I've learned to just do a sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade and then immediately snap shot it in vmware....
[00:04] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yeah, that's a good idea
[00:05] <john_doe_jr> jrib: if you can help me get this working….I think I'm going scream b/c I've been @ this for days
[00:06] <john_doe_jr> I have noticed that I do get a dpkg-checkbuilddepts says, unmet build dependencies: gsoap (<< 2.8) libflaim-dev (>= 4.0)
[00:07] <john_doe_jr> *3
[00:09] <ASkogli> Hey. One quick quastion: I used a guide for Ubuntu 10.10 when I was setting up my partitions, is there any difference between that setup and the setup for Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:09] <jrib> ASkogli: what guide?
[00:09] <Biocide> you could just update
[00:09] <john_doe_jr> how do you check the version of your installed software from the command line?
[00:09] <jrib> john_doe_jr: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[00:10] <Biocide> the setup for 12.04 is virtually seamless
[00:10] <zykotick9> ASkogli: assuming you aren't using a 2+TB drive, i doubt there is much, if any difference.  IF it is 2+tb, then yes - things have changed.
[00:10] <Biocide> i upgraded from 11.10 threw the update manager
[00:10] <ASkogli> A guide from linuxBSDos.com.
[00:10] <john_doe_jr> jrib: thanks
[00:10] <ASkogli> It's a 640GB drive
[00:11] <Biocide> i would be running 12.10 beta 2 but whats the point when 12.10 comes out 2mrw
[00:11] <zykotick9> ASkogli: i "bet" it's find then.  but don't use outdated guides!  try to search for official or quasi-offical ubuntu documentation VS some random post on the internet.
[00:11] <zykotick9> ASkogli: s/find/fine/
[00:12] <ASkogli> The reason I wonder is because its a partition called /boot. And when I check other guide there was no /boot in those guides
[00:12] <john_doe_jr> Well, apparently I need a version of gsoap that is << 2.8 but I have 2.8.4-2…do you know how I can down grade my version?
[00:12] <zykotick9> ASkogli: ahh.  /boot separate is silly!
[00:12] <ASkogli> Opps...
[00:12] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I'd check the nofolder documentation to see if that's really required (a version less that 2.8)
[00:13] <ASkogli> How will this effect me when I going to Install Windows 7 as a secondary OS
[00:13] <zykotick9> ASkogli: it has a couple of required "use-cases" but generally, modern systems don't need a separate /boot - that was to address an old limitation.
[00:13] <iceroot> zykotick9: depending on the needs
[00:13] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, nofolder only gives u the installation procedure for open SUSE…http://www.nofolder.com/documentation/installation/server/opensuse/opensuse_11-3/
[00:13] <ASkogli> Ok. Thanks. :)
[00:14] <iceroot> zykotick9: there are cases where a separate /boot is usefull
[00:14] <Dacs> howdy folks
[00:14] <zykotick9> iceroot: "it has a couple of required "use-cases" but  generally
[00:14] <SuperMiguel> if i want to dual boot a ubuntu and windows... But i want to have a intel matrix raid setup.. Which OS should i install first? ubuntu or Windows?
[00:14] <iceroot> zykotick9: yeah, generally / and /home are enough
[00:14] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: is that a fakeraid? or a real hardware raid?
[00:14] <somethingoranoth> stupid question, what's the use in using gksudo over sudo to run a program?
[00:15] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: fake
[00:15] <iceroot> somethingoranoth: the environment
[00:15] <ASkogli> Well, it seems like I have done it right, Ubuntu 12.04 booted just fine. :)
[00:15] <Dacs> i am still not able to get to my desktop in my 12.04.1 this happend after i was following a post on how to remove apach2
[00:15] <actionParsnip> somethingoranoth: sudo is for CLI commands only, gksudo is to be used for GUI apps
[00:15] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: fakeraid is bad
[00:15] <actionParsnip> somethingoranoth: but can be used for both CLI and GUI apps :)
[00:15] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: i would suggest to put windows on fakeraid and linux on software-raid
[00:15] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello!
[00:15] <Dacs> i can still access tty's
[00:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I need to ask an op a question.
[00:16] <somethingoranoth> but running a gui app with sudo still launches it...
[00:16] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: but what is the reason you want a raid for?
[00:16] <Dacs> any help will be highly appreciated
[00:16] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: how can i do that?
[00:16] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: my laptop comes stock with two SSD in raid 0
[00:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I see there are three ops online!
[00:16] <actionParsnip> somethingoranoth: yes but it isn't setup right and you can damage the ownership of files in yur home folder
[00:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> So anyway, my question (for an op)
[00:16] <somethingoranoth> ah
[00:16] <iceroot> somethingoranoth: that does not mean that it will run always successfull, there are cases where sudo will fail and only gksudo will work
[00:17] <ASkogli> One more question: The Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver... Is it safe? (Hade Pear Linux 5 for 2 hours ago, it crashed hooribly after fiddeling with Nvidia drivers, therefor Ubuntu now)
[00:17] <zykotick9> somethingoranoth: using sudo with gui apps can lead to root owning file in a users home director, which leads to tears.
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> How do I get a dock on the bottom of my screen (similar to a Mac)? I see it on videos on Youtube. I have the latest Xubuntu.
[00:17] <actionParsnip> !gksudo | somethingoranoth
[00:17] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: install one, there are many to go at
[00:17] <jrib> Hishamoto_Masuki: was that your question for an op?
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> actionParsnip! You're my favorite op, could you help me out?
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Where could I find one?
[00:17] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: two ssds in raid0?
[00:17] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: yes
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> And yes jrib
[00:17] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: I'm not an op :)
[00:17] <_______________> when 12.10 wil publish? which time?
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> :O
[00:17] <actionParsnip> !dock
[00:17] <Dacs> can anyone help me with this issue
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> But you're so smart :O
[00:18] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Anyways, where could I find a dock?
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: been at this game a long time :)
[00:18] <jrib> Hishamoto_Masuki: ok, keep in mind *everyone* can answer support questions.  ops are really just for managing the channel (keep spam away, etc)
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: search software centre
[00:18] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay, one sec.
[00:18] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: hm sounds useless. ssd is fast enough and raid 0 will increase the change of a complete data fail by 50%
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Dacs: ask and see
[00:18] <Dacs> actionParsnip: i have been since yesterday :)
[00:18] <ASkogli> One more question: The Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver... Is it safe? (Hade Pear Linux 5 for 2 hours ago, it crashed hooribly after fiddeling with Nvidia drivers, therefor Ubuntu now)
[00:18] <Queops> _______________: before the clock strikes 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands on the 18th
[00:18] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I think I might've found one.
[00:19] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: and fakeraid is even more evil because the raid will only work with your specific controller
[00:19] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: you around ?
[00:19] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I'm installing it.
[00:19] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It won't install, it needs Ubuntu
[00:19] <iceroot> ASkogli: you know what Experimental means?
[00:19] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, could you find one for me? *Linux newb*
[00:19] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: I use the ones from the Xorg update archive (less fresh more stable)
[00:20] <ASkogli> Ok, how do I get my hands on them? :)
[00:20] <iceroot> ASkogli: why not using the default drivers?
[00:20] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I really think that gsoap is the problem….when I try to build it it states, "gsoap (<< 2.8)…..when I do a sudo apt-cache policy gsoap…it shows I have 2.8.4-2
[00:21] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:21] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yes, I think you are right.  But I would check that the package has that requirement correct
[00:21] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: gives the 304.51 driver
[00:21] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: well its makes my system very fast =)
[00:21] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: 1200mb/s read speed
[00:21] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I found a good Dock called Docky :)
[00:21] <SolarAquarion> I have a kernel panic
[00:22] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thanks guys gtg
[00:22] <lewellyn> SolarAquarion: join the club
[00:22] <ASkogli> iceroot: In hope of that Nvidia drivers will let me see the hole screen on my 720p TV instead of letting 20% outside the screen
[00:22] <SolarAquarion> Llewellyn ash?
[00:22] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: a normal ssd have 600MByte/s? cant imaging
[00:22] <lewellyn> hm?
[00:22] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: I use it on my 6150LE chip to make Urban Terror playable
[00:22] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how do I do that for the "simias-build-deps_1.0_all.deb" package…sudo apt-cache policy simias-build-deps_1.0_all.deb ?
[00:23] <dr_willis> ASkogli:  that sounds like the overscan settings are set on the TV.
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> My sisters laptop is odd
[00:23] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: but anyways, so how to do it.. fakeraid my windows, and software raid my linux?
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> BusyBox built in shell
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> Initramfs
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> My Ubuntu isn't booting
[00:24] <ASkogli> Maybe, when thinking of it, even Windows didn't work on my TV, had to manually rezise the screen resolution using the Nvidia drive
[00:24] <lewellyn> ok. so 12.10 gets me the kernel panic during cd-rom boot, unlike 12.04. and it's a far more concise kp than before. http://imgur.com/kbl67
[00:24] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: the easiest would be to remove fakeraid and use a normal setup, or you enable a raid0 array in the bios and install windows first, then ubuntu ((alternate cd))
[00:24] <iceroot> lewellyn: #ubuntu+1
[00:24] <dr_willis> ASkogli:  check the tv's menus/configs. and disable overscan if you can.
[00:24] <lewellyn> this is, of course, a boot-time kp unique to ubuntu
[00:24] <lewellyn> iceroot: it happens in 10.04-12.04 too
[00:24] <actionParsnip> SolarAquarion: try booting to liveCD and you can chroot from there to check on Grub config etc
[00:24] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: but in my opinion Raid is totally useless in a notebook
[00:24] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm looking through http://nofolder.googlecode.com/files/ifolder3-linux.tar.gz at the moment
[00:24] <lewellyn> it just so happens that the screen is sane to read from 12.10. i'll post the 12.04 one if you prefer.
[00:25] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: got any input on UEFI vs Legacy?
[00:25] <iceroot> lewellyn: processor context corrupt
[00:25] <john_doe_jr> jrib: what is debian squeeze? This site might help: http://wiki.phys.ethz.ch/readme/compiling_ifolder_packages_on_debian_ubuntu
[00:25] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: dont use UEFI
[00:25] <lewellyn> iceroot: only in ubuntu though. so it's an ubuntu bug.
[00:25] <iceroot> lewellyn: hm
[00:25] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: reason?
[00:26] <lewellyn> just went through a half dozen distros today.
[00:26] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: its a Microsoft Jail developed to steal your freedom
[00:26] <lewellyn> seriously it's unique to ubuntu. even debian boots.
[00:26] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: gotcha... So where do i install grub?
[00:26] <somethingoranoth> Does Ubuntu do anything to override any options entered in /etc/default/grub?
[00:26] <alien2050> SolarAquarion: step 1 - boot live cd step 2 - as root mount your ubuntu partition into /1 (mkdir /1; mount /dev/sda1 /1); do a grub repair (grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sda)
[00:26] <lewellyn> since you don't like talk of 12.10, here's the 12.04 ss of the kp: http://imgur.com/u4Fnk
[00:26] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: create a partition by itself for it? non raided?
[00:26] <jrib> john_doe_jr: squeeze is a release of debian
[00:27] <ASkogli> dr_willis: Cheap TV, no settings.... Hehe. Just have to buy a new TV after christmas I guess. :P
[00:27] <alien2050> SolarAquarion: then reboot it should be ok
[00:27] <lewellyn> more info, but not terribly much more useful.
[00:27] <john_doe_jr> jrib: yup 6.0…that's a while back
[00:27] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: use the fakeraid array
[00:27] <michealPW> actionParsnip: By the way, your advice helped me get KDE 4.9 installed without any problems, everything's working brilliantly now thanks very much :)
[00:27] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: it is one device containing the two drives
[00:27] <michealPW> How do you remember commands like that, with apt-get to find all the kde things? HEHE!
[00:27] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: just use the alternate cd, there is a fakeraid option
[00:27] <Dacs> paste.ubuntu.com/1286123 <--- can someone help me please
[00:27] <actionParsnip> michaelPW: glad you got the gold :)
[00:28] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: so dont do what you recommended first? install windows in fakeraid and ubuntu on a software raid?
[00:28] <lewellyn> so does anyone have suggestions for me, as to how to stop whatever ubuntu-specific behavior the kernel is doing?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> hi
[00:29] <lewellyn> i've, of course, fiddled the acpi options in both the bios and the kernel line. no love.
[00:29] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: just use one fakeraid array for every partition you want
[00:29] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: windows, / and /home + swap
[00:30] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: so create 2 arrays on the bios?
[00:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: u got it downloaded yet?
[00:30] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: find it more handy then one big fakeraid array but raid on notebooks is totally useless...
[00:30] <ASkogli> Anyone got expercience from noobslab? Considering to use the Mac OSX Lion Theme.
[00:31] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: it will increase the chance of a total data loss by 50%
[00:31] <actionParsnip> Dacs: I don't think nv is around anymore, I believe nouveau now replaces it
[00:31] <lewellyn> btw, the output of prior-to-12.04 is the same as 12.04. :/
[00:31] <t|ask> lewellyn: new hardware? memory error?
[00:32] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: ya but that only matters if you care about data.. im more 95% speed 5% data... at least for the type of job im doing
[00:32] <Dacs> actionParsnip: but my laptop was working until i tried to remove apache2. something doesn't add up
[00:32] <lewellyn> t|ask: i've seen this on 2 motherboard/cpu combos now. different ram in each.
[00:32] <actionParsnip> Dacs: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:32] <lewellyn> and again, only ubuntu.
[00:33] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: you know that your cpu is doing the job for the raid?
[00:33] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yeah i'll just run it off the live env
[00:33] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: only on hardware raid the cpu will not do the job
[00:33] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: ya i know :(
[00:34] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: so create 2 arrays in bios, so 2 fakeraid arrays, which OS do i install first?
[00:34] <jrib> john_doe_jr: you take a look at this tar.gz I linked before?
[00:34] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: windows
[00:35] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: and grub on my linux array?
[00:35] <john_doe_jr> jrib: yes I downloaded and read the READ ME file ...
[00:35] <Dacs> precise
[00:36] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen?
[00:36] <alecb> like if I'd want to run it from the command line
[00:36] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: yes and set the boot order to that array
[00:36] <Dacs> actionParsnip: precise
[00:37] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: grub will then boot linux from that array or start the chainloader for windows to start the other array
[00:37] <actionParsnip> Dacs: do you use the proprietary video driver? Do you use an xorg.conf file?
[00:37] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: cool thxs =)
[00:37] <iceroot> alecb: it should be the indicator-applet
[00:37] <iceroot> alecb: so the battery is not a single app
[00:37] <Dacs> actionParsnip: the way everything was setip was when i boot my laptop it goes stright to xbuntu
[00:38] <actionParsnip> Dacs: doesn't answer the questions
[00:38] <kayve_> I just had a life upheaval and
[00:38] <Dacs> actionParsnip: am not understanding your question then
[00:38] <alecb> iceroot: is there a name of a general binary to run though, even if it's for more stuff. indicator-applet wasn't it
[00:39] <actionParsnip> Dacs: did you install the proprietary nvdia driver using the additional drivers app?
[00:39] <Dacs> actionParsnip: i never had to edit Xorg.conf no
[00:39] <Raptors_> Does anyone know if there is software like CrytalDiskMark (memory benchmarking) for linux?
[00:39] <iceroot> alecb: sorry dont know
[00:39] <Dacs> actionParsnip: i want to say yes. but i am not sure
[00:39] <Raptors_> http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html
[00:40] <Dacs> actionParsnip:  i cant remember
[00:40] <actionParsnip> Dacs: run:   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:40] <somsip> !12.10 | somsip
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay
[00:40] <kayve_> I had to move out of my place that had a DSL connection so I got a Sprint Sierra Wireless hotspot and the internet connection is not persistant
[00:40] <kayve_> The Sprint ppl claim it is a problem with my OS
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Parsnip, I got the dock, but I need help
[00:40] <iceroot> Raptors_: memtest
[00:40] <dormito> When I leave my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop idle for an unknow period of time the mouse and keyboard stop responding. They are usb but unpluging and repluging them does now seem to work (and other usb devices continue to work). The openssh still accepts connections. At first I thought it was a standby issue because the screens would be off, however when I disabled screensaver/blanking the issue still would arise. The problem does not seem to occure
[00:40] <dormito> while the the system is in use (but it hasnt happened very often so I can not be sure of that)
[00:40] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen? ie, the name of the binary, that I could run from a command line?
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It says 'enable compositing'
[00:40] <D4rkH4nd> I need some help badly. My desktop keeps crashing i havent a clue why
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> How do I enable compositing?
[00:40] <iceroot> Raptors_: should also check the speed
[00:40] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: it needs 3D accelleration and Compiz window manager
[00:41] <kayve_> Is there a configuration I can investigate to get my Ubuntu 12.04 to maintain a persistant connection to my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot?
[00:41] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did you find something that something interesting about the dependency requirements?
[00:41] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Whaa?
[00:41] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I don't know what that means...um...
[00:41] <Dacs> actionParsnip: its telling me it is the newset
[00:41] <kayve_> I keep getting dropped
[00:41] <somethingoranoth> :S
[00:41] <kayve_> I have to constantly reconnect
[00:41] <jrib> john_doe_jr: nope. I figured the requirements should be in the files used to generate the rpm though
[00:42] <D4rkH4nd> Anyone able to help me desktop keeps crashing so it will crash shortly again
[00:42] <Hishamoto_Masuki> What exactly does that mean, Parsnip?
[00:42] <jrib> john_doe_jr: also, the tar.gz includes a copy of gsoap in dependencies/
[00:42] <actionParsnip> Dacs: what nvidia chip do you use?
[00:42] <kayve_> I can't maintain an internet session
[00:42] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: your video hardware needs to be able to and be configured to do 3D accelleration, then you need to install compiz
[00:43] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen? ie, the name of the binary, that I could run from a command line?
[00:43] <Dacs> actionParsnip: how can i list it
[00:43] <actionParsnip> Dacs: sudo lshw -C display
[00:43] <Dacs> actionParsnip: its not lsmod it is ls"somthing"
[00:43] <D4rkH4nd> Anyone able to help me desktop keeps crashing so it will crash shortly again. Unable to do anything other then web
[00:44] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I see the gsoap folder under linux-2.7…do I just download the src folder and attempt to compile it or something?
[00:44] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I installed it, Parsnip
[00:44] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: or, press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[00:45] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well I'm just suggesting that if you want to avoid using the deb packaging from that bzr repo, you may be able to compile this tar.gz yourself
[00:45] <kayve_> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here
[00:45] <kayve_> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here
[00:45] <kayve_> is there a configuration fix for this?
[00:45] <FloodBot1> kayve_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <spundun> hi all... should I use synaptic or software center?
[00:46] <kayve_> I can't tell WTF I am doing with respect to what you are saying, FLoodBot1 because of my connection problems
[00:46] <Dacs> actionParsnip: paste.ubuntu.com/1286141
[00:46] <D4rkH4nd> AND there goes my desktop Fudge
[00:46] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thank You Parsnip!
[00:47] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen? ie, the name of the binary, that I could run from a command line?
[00:47] <Dacs> actionParsnip: you got it
[00:47] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I've never done that before…hold on let me make a folder and wget that tar.gz file into it
[00:49] <actionParsnip> Dacs: looks fine, the proprietary driver is loaded ok
[00:49] <D4rkH4nd> I could really use some help here LOL. Desktop crashing every 10min or so. im new to linux
[00:50] <actionParsnip> D4rkH4nd: have you tested your RAM using memtest86+ from Grub?
[00:50] <D4rkH4nd> no
[00:50] <D4rkH4nd> just type memtest86+ in term ?
[00:51] <dormito> When I leave my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop idle for an unknow period of time the mouse and keyboard stop responding. They are usb but unpluging and repluging them does now seem to work (and other usb devices continue to work). The openssh still accepts connections. At first I thought it was a standby issue because the screens would be off, however when I disabled screensaver/blanking the issue still would arise. The problem does not seem to occure
[00:51] <dormito> while the the system is in use (but it hasnt happened very often so I can not be sure of that)
[00:51] <actionParsnip> D4rkH4nd: no, its an option in Grub
[00:51] <Dacs> actionParsnip: so why i keep getting the black screen and i am only able to access tty
[00:51] <D4rkH4nd> how do i do it
[00:51] <rocket> which channel should I go to ask ubuntu/debian packaging questions?
[00:52] <actionParsnip> D4rkH4nd: hold SHIFT at boot
[00:52] <D4rkH4nd> okay ill try and come back
[00:52] <michealPW> how come lshw -C display shows my GPU at 33mhz? :|
[00:52] <actionParsnip> Dacs: try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[00:52] <michealPW> That can't be right, it's a radeon 6550D hehe
[00:53] <kayve_> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[00:53]  * adirko is bouncing to 'Howard Stern Show - [Howard Stern Show CDHSRS101712 #01] 10-17-12 CF' 
[00:53] <kayve_> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[00:55] <Joey_> Hey check this out: http://eb68b0af.goneviral.com
[00:55] <Nautilus> anyone around to help me debug/finish my compass install on Ubuntu 12.04?  http://pastebin.ca/2246958
[00:55] <john_doe_jr> jrib: alright so I've downloaded it and untarred it ….it has a autogen.sh file….shouldn't I run ~./configure or something at this point?
[00:56] <kringel84> Is 12.10 released yet? :)
[00:56] <L3top> michealPW: did you install fglrx?
[00:56] <kayve_> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[00:57] <somsip> kringel84: at some point in the next 24 hours, but usually it's some time during the day GMT
[00:57] <L3top> kayve_: why is it not persistent? Why is it dying?
[00:58] <john_doe_jr> jrib: u there?
[00:58] <kringel84> somsip: hard to wait for the CEST people though. ;-) thanks!
[00:59] <BETurner> Hello everyone :)
[00:59] <john_doe_jr> If I've downloaded some source files that have a autogen.sh file in it and a build-linux.sh in it…how do I start the install process?
[00:59] <jrib> john_doe_jr: usually ./autogen.sh first
[00:59] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm going to install 12.04 to vbox since live env is too slow...
[00:59] <BETurner> Yep
[01:00] <BETurner> Are you running the live from a cd/DVD?
[01:01] <lewellyn> so, basically, i'm just hosed with ubuntu?
[01:01] <john_doe_jr> jrib: Alright so ./autogen.sh —prefix=/usr?
[01:02] <jrib> john_doe_jr: sure
[01:02] <Dacs> where is Mr. action ?
[01:05] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I'm getting configure: error: no C Sharp compiler: mcs not found in $PATH…any idea why that means?
[01:05] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I guess you need mono-mcs
[01:06] <L3top> john_doe_jr: apt-cache search c# | grep compiler
[01:06] <L3top> oops... jrib gave it away.
[01:06] <t|ask> release is in about 12h, right?
[01:07] <john_doe_jr> jrib: awesome little command
[01:07]  * jrib steals L3top's credit
[01:07] <L3top> there is no hour t|ask. It releases when it releases. Tomorrow sometime
[01:07] <bnwkeys> L3top: thanks again for your help earlier today.
[01:07] <t|ask> L3top: Oh, I thought there is one, because someone said so... but better if not ,)
[01:08] <CyclicFlux> Greetings all!!!
[01:09] <L3top> Not sure what you meant there t|ask. I was just trying to show you how to find things you may need, whatever that need might be.
[01:09] <Guest69929> I had a quick question, its rather strange. I am not quite sure but I may of deleted the trash can in Ubuntu(however I don't believe this to be the case).  But yet the trash can is gone.
[01:09] <bnwkeys> When I run jockey I don't see any graphics drivers, it says that no third party drivers are installed, but it only lists my broadcom wireless driver.  Anybody have any idea why I can't configure my ATI driver with Jockey (can't see it, using a Gallium ATI driver on precise)?
[01:10] <t|ask> L3top: I guess, you mentioned jrib ... I meant the release hour ,)
[01:10] <john_doe_jr> jrib: almost there….now stating configure: error: Package requirements (simias >= 1.0 were not met:  No package 'simias' found….any ideas how I get that package….I tried to apt-cache search simias and sudo apt-get install but didn't find anything named simias
[01:11] <bnwkeys> Guest69929: did you open Dash and search for "trash"?
[01:11] <kayve> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[01:11] <kayve> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[01:12] <kayve> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[01:12] <kayve> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[01:12] <L3top> !patience | kayve it also helps if you answer questions related to your problem.
[01:12] <D4rkH4nd> I did a memtest and it went thru and idk why my desktop keeps crashing. Something about  a gpu hang up ????
[01:13] <kayve> I suspect I will drop off the server soon once again
[01:13] <xyzone> kayve, sure not isp problem?
[01:13] <lewellyn> ok. i guess i have to throw in the towel on ubuntu for good. i just can't devote any more hours to trying to figure out why even the install CD does KPs at boot :/
[01:13] <obtrusivemouse> i just unzipped a tar.gz file, went inside the folder that it made but when i run make it says /bin/sh: 1: cmake: not found
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> guys, how do I restart the sound driver?
[01:13] <boggle> I am on ubuntu 12.04
[01:13] <jrib> john_doe_jr: don't know :)
[01:13] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: You should make at least 8 passes. You weren't gone long enough.
[01:13] <obtrusivemouse> does it need to find something called install?
[01:13] <boggle> contrast is really high
[01:13] <D4rkH4nd> kayve have you checked with sprint and the compadibility with ubuntu ?
[01:13] <bnwkeys> Has anyone else ever had issues with Jockey/AdditionalDrivers not showing any drivers?
[01:14] <boggle> anyone know how to fix massive contrast on i8xx graphics?
[01:14] <D4rkH4nd> It passes 100%
[01:14] <boggle> its only in movie player
[01:14] <boggle> not in anything else
[01:14] <john_doe_jr> jrib: guess when they were in their IDE there was a package named simias that they didn't include in the dependencies right?
[01:14] <Dacs> exit
[01:14] <Dacs> quit
[01:14] <CyclicFlux> I got disconnected earlier, but I was asking the question with reference to the trash.  This was not the trash icon itself, which is still present.  Upon opening the icon with a simple click everything was the same but the 'empty trash'/'restore trash' buttons were gray-scaled(unclickable)
[01:14] <L3top> bnwkeys: There are no additional drivers for your card. ATI completely dropped support for it.
[01:15] <bnwkeys> oh
[01:15] <bnwkeys> right XD
[01:15] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: im pretty sure its a software issue. Its says gpu hangup. compiz crashes then cairo then gnome.
[01:16] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did you attempt to compile it yet?
[01:16] <KRomeleoN> does 12.10 release at midnight?
[01:16] <jrib> john_doe_jr: nope, still installing
[01:16] <level15_> hi, all. I am having massive kernel errors on my linux guests when my host has intensive I/O usage (VM images backup operations). Sometimes, the guest kernel will remount the fs in read only mode, which obviously crashes most of my services. I have been reading and have found that this might be related to host I/O cache, and that it might be a good idea to turn it off by settiong cache=none for all disks of my guests. Is that safe in case of a host
[01:16] <level15_> failure?  Has anyone had the same issue and, if so, how did you solve it? Thanks.
[01:16] <john_doe_jr> jrib: dang that is taking a whiel
[01:16] <john_doe_jr> *while
[01:16] <L3top> Could very well be... but again, to properly test ram you need to make about 8 passes... what version ubuntu are you on?
[01:16] <jrib> john_doe_jr: have you checked these PPAs? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=ifolder
[01:17] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: 12.04 is a n .10 out tonight ?
[01:17] <KRomeleoN> yeah is .10 rel at midnight?
[01:17] <KRomeleoN> i will stay up late
[01:17] <john_doe_jr> jrib: yes but none have built it for Ubuntu 12.04 Server though
[01:17] <Chiyo> hi there, does anyone here control the domain ubuntu.com?
[01:17] <L3top> no... it will be out sometime tomorrow. THere is no hour eta.
[01:17] <jgautier> I have a usb 3.0 drive and when I boot the computer it is never recognized.  If I unplug and plug it in then it will pop up on the desktop.  ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS.  Here is some logs from when i boot and it is not recognized.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286174/
[01:17] <penguinman> plus .10 has....issues....
[01:17] <penguinman> to put it mildly
[01:18] <db0rg> Hey all, does anyone know if VFIO was included in the ubuntu 3.6.2 kernel?
[01:18]  * L3top doesn't understand moving from LTS to the bleeding latest 
[01:18] <jgautier> it shows up in dmesg and lsusb
[01:18] <jgautier> just not in mount
[01:18] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: what DM are you using?
[01:18] <KRomeleoN> L3top, what about gnomebuntu?
[01:18] <D4rkH4nd> DM ?
[01:18] <L3top> Desktop Manager
[01:19] <L3top> Unity, Gnome Classic, Gnome 2...
[01:19] <bnwkeys> Dungeon Master
[01:19] <john_doe_jr> jrib: is there any way I could just launchpad to install ifolder?
[01:19] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: umm gnome i guess. im nub so not sure if thats right
[01:19] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: gnome3
[01:19] <CyclicFlux> I know the location of trash is in ~/.local/share/Trash, but the folder is not currently there. I attempted creating a directory but was not able to see a difference.  Is it perhaps something that could be fixed with an apt-get upgrade/apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20]  * L3top facepalms at own gnome 2 question...
[01:20] <jrib> john_doe_jr: what do you mean?
[01:20] <rds_> hai guys ! I have a lot  of images in my folder with different pixel size , I want to filter those images like  pixel  below 300x300 is there any option in ubuntu or can i filter using terminal ?
[01:21] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: I am not very familiar with gnome 3... I know that Unity uses compiz and installing things like the compiz manager/various components break it.
[01:21] <john_doe_jr> jrib: those were binaries built on specific version of linux right?  so they couldn't be used on my Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server right?
[01:22] <D4rkH4nd> so take off compiz may help ?
[01:22] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well you can grab the source packages if you want and try to rebuild the
[01:22] <jrib> m
[01:22] <opakavic> Guys i see blank screen after booting 12.04 ! in my laptop
[01:23] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: someone more familiar with gnome 3 should answer that. Just be patient.
[01:23] <opakavic> i guess i have to pass in some boot parameters, can anybody help me
[01:23] <kayve> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[01:23] <kayve> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[01:23] <kayve> I suspect I will drop off the server soon once again
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> Canonical should release 12.10 niw
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> its 10/18 in Australia
[01:25] <L3top> !nomodeset | opakavic
[01:25] <jilebedev> Hi - can anyone recommend me a tool to find out detailed CPU information? cat /proc/cpuinfo doesn't produce a CPU model, and, in fact, it conflicts with what lshw produces. This is an older Intel Xeon CPU and I'd love a tool that's comprehensive and recognizes older model CPUs.
[01:27] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, just let me know when you have installed everything ….I really appreciate the help
[01:28] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciateit
[01:28] <opakavic> L3top: yes let me check
[01:28] <L3top> jilebedev: so cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model        is blank?
[01:29] <jrib> john_doe_jr: installing now
[01:29] <CyclicFlux> I fixed it!!! I made the folder, and just needed a restart, so there was likely a .lock file/etc... for it.
[01:29] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i still wish I coulf find the documentation on what version of gsoap is actually required
[01:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, if you run the configure or attempt to build it..it will tell you what version of gsoap is required
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: still around?
[01:30] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciate it
[01:31] <TheDarkPirate> hi people! does somebody know how to use the computer as a "bluetooth headset"?
[01:31] <TheDarkPirate> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and I'd like to do it with my Android smartphone
[01:32] <jilebedev> L3top: not blank: it just says a generic "Intel Xeon CPU @ 2.8GHz".
[01:32] <jilebedev> L3top: the gents in /r/sysadmin suggested 'dmidecode -t processor' and that's getting me somewhere.
[01:32] <john_doe_jr> jrib: that download is for the linux client…you need to download the ifolder3-enterprise-3.8..etc
[01:32] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciate it
[01:33] <HICorp> Good evening, all!
[01:33] <jrib> john_doe_jr: -enterprise is only available as .rpm though? What's ifolder3.9-linux.tar.gz?
[01:33] <jp2_ubuntu> running lts12.04, trying to install updates in gnome, but when I tell it to install, it doesn't seem to make any progress. How do I know if this is working or not?
[01:33] <L3top> jilebedev: sudo apt-get install cpuid
[01:34] <john_doe_jr> jrib: ifolder consists of a server and a client ...
[01:34] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I'm trying to install the server
[01:34] <john_doe_jr> jrib: check this out: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/17922160/dir/other/com/ifolder3-enterprise-3.8.0.9328.1-2.1.x86_64.rpm.html
[01:35] <Dacs> anyone please
[01:36] <snatale42> Dacs, did you vid driver recently update??
[01:36] <jp2_ubuntu> it's using gnome update manager, says 130mb to be downloaded, but never starts a download :(
[01:36] <L3top> Dacs: did you install the proprietary gpu before shutdown?
[01:36] <pitviper296> how do you restart unity from the command line, i hit reset compiz settings and now I have no desktop or minimize , maximize or close on windows
[01:36] <webfox> Not sure which one is causing my poor old computer to suddenly turn off by heat, Firefox, Flash or Youtube.
[01:36] <L3top> pitviper296: sudo service lightdm restart
[01:37] <Dacs> snatale42: L3top no
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Generally with a compiz replace logging out or rebooting is needed.
[01:37] <Dacs> snatale42: i think i did update before shutdown
[01:37] <altin_> how can I see all the open ports of my router via a command ?
[01:37] <DaemonicApathy> L3top: "sudo restart lightdm" is shorter
[01:38] <pitviper296> L3top: I've tried that keeps restarting but only shows my wall paper , @wilee tried rebooting as well. had to run firefox from terminal
[01:38] <webfox> But I suspect being Flash the villain here.
[01:38] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well at least https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iFolderInstall should also allow for the server to install (if we can get it to work)
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, You might need to reset unity which is alt-f2 unity --reset
[01:39] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, I'm on stand by…I've tried really hard to get it to work using those instructions on that site
[01:40] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciate it
[01:40] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm ignoring the version requirement on gsoap and seeing what happens
[01:40] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  ok I can try that. just started ccsm from terminal and enabled unity. going to service lightdm restart , if noting then unity --reset
[01:40] <alien2050> simple question probably... how do you completely reset gtkrc (I've installed kxstudio repo and it screws with the theme in gtk 2)
[01:40] <Dacs> is it simple to just re-install since no one here is able to figure out what is my issue?!!
[01:41] <john_doe_jr> jrib: alright…on the edge of my chair …maybe you can get this to work
[01:41] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, Dacs. Just time-consuming.
[01:41] <alien2050> even tried ln -sf /usr/share/themes/Radiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0
[01:41] <kringel84> quit
[01:41] <alien2050> but it still is black background quite ugly......
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, That will reset compiz as well I believe so just a heads up. If you are tweaking compiz, there are lots of web pages on doing this. You can also have a compiz restart button using the fusion icon as a launcher on the desktop.
[01:42] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: i mean , every 30min someone ask me to run a command and i hear nothing back from them
[01:42] <jrib> alien2050: you sure it's not a gtk3 issue?
[01:42] <alien2050> also tried gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme --type string "" and gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme ""
[01:42] <alien2050> well it could be... who controls the background is what i d like to know
[01:42] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: It can get hectic in here. We all get lost in the shuffle sometimes.
[01:43] <alien2050> it's not gnome-shell, just unity 3
[01:43] <jrib> alien2050: the wallpaper?
[01:43] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: i understand
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> does 12.10 release at midnight?
[01:43] <alien2050> nope... for example... my skype has a black bg now, also qt designer, and most guis
[01:43] <jrib> KRomeleoN: no; when it's ready
[01:43] <bazhang> KRomeleoN, no
[01:43] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: is there a recovery repair like in windows
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> reporters are already reviewing the final version
[01:44] <alien2050> wallpaper is fine, firefox is fine
[01:44] <jrib> alien2050: how did you change it originally?
[01:44] <bazhang> KRomeleoN, it's not out. so thats not possible
[01:44] <alien2050> like I said, I installed KXstudio repo and it dumps a bunch of gtkrc files
[01:44] <alien2050> but even when I remove them, it's like it's cached
[01:44] <jrib> alien2050: "a bunch"?  which?
[01:45] <jrib> john_doe_jr: this takes a long time to build...
[01:45] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: Not as such. If you're not comfortable doing something like that with what knowledge you have, I normally suggest a clean install.
[01:45] <alien2050> you can have a look at what it does here: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Downloads
[01:45] <alien2050> there's a link to a file called KXstudio artwork
[01:45] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I've got a pretty powerful machine though…what are the commands that you used…did you follow the website exactly?
[01:46] <jgautier> update on my problem the usb drive will be detected if i turn the computer all the way off and back on but will not be recognized if i do a restart/reboot
[01:46] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee: well unity --reset worked. But for some reason when I click my home folder it doesn't show the left panel that has , docs, pictures, mounted drives and other shortcuts
[01:46] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[01:46] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: so basically what you are saying that windows will be a better OS
[01:46] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yes, I'm just waiting for bzr-buildpackage to finish.  All I did was edit the gsoap package requirement
[01:46] <faoiseamh> ^12.04
[01:46] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  nevermind
[01:47] <alien2050> I don't think it's the point though... I just would like to reset it
[01:47] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: this will be the third time for me in the past year i have to follow and update with a clean install
[01:47] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: If you anticipate having to restore your system regularly, sure.
[01:47] <alien2050> there has to be a way to "execute" a gtkrc file
[01:47] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: This started as an update?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296_, You found the button, hehe.
[01:47] <alien2050> is gtk3 theme only for gnome-shell or does it bleed through unity
[01:48] <jrib> alien2050: get rid of the packages you installed
[01:48] <alien2050> somehow
[01:48] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  stupid hot-key shouldn't have played in the rain
[01:48] <alien2050> yeah I tried that... doesn't work
[01:48] <jrib> alien2050: *purge* the packages you installed
[01:48] <alien2050> like I said I did it
[01:48] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  compiz-extra - raind hot key is shift f9
[01:48] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: then i beleive "update faliure gets bundled with ubuntu" will be my new shirt :)
[01:48] <alien2050> actually did even better, I reinstalled the OS to a clean ubuntu
[01:49] <alien2050> but my home dir still has the conf somewhere
[01:49] <jrib> alien2050: so with a fresh new user, you do not have the problem?
[01:49] <L3top> Dacs: I am sure it can be fixed without reinstalling.
[01:50] <alien2050> no, but I really want to track it down cuz there's tons of customization I've got
[01:50] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: How did you go about updating? Sorry if you're repeating yourself.
[01:50] <Dacs> L3top: it is just that eveyone that know how to fix it is busy right?
[01:50] <jrib> alien2050: well it's likely ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini or some sort of dconf/gsettings setting
[01:51] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: 'apt-get update'
[01:51] <alien2050> yeah I know... just having a hard time figuring it out...
[01:51] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  ty for the help on that, going to reboot and might jump back in chat
[01:51] <jrib> john_doe_jr: it finally finished (with an error regarding gsoap)
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296_ cool
[01:51] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: That basically just updates a list of packages...shouldn't break anything.
[01:51] <john_doe_jr> jrib: great…any idea how to correct that problem?
[01:52] <alien2050> settings.ini didn't tried this one yet let me try it
[01:52] <jrib> john_doe_jr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286203/ you probably need to find yourself an earlier copy of gsoap unless you want to hack on this libsimias
[01:52] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: shouldn't is the keyword
[01:52] <L3top> Dacs: you would have had to use apt-get upgrade to actually apply the updated packages. I am not busy, but I burned the bugger out of my left hand... covered in blisters... so I am slow.
[01:52] <alien2050> is there a way to reload gtk-3 without killing unity?
[01:52] <alien2050> is it unity --replace?
[01:53] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how do I do that?
[01:53] <Dacs> is there an op here?
[01:53] <alien2050> unity replace is no good
[01:53] <L3top> there are ops... but they don't arrive unless there is a channel problem.
[01:53] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[01:54] <Dacs> L3top:can you help me then
[01:54] <L3top> Dacs: for fun, try booting with the nomodeset kernel param.
[01:55] <jrib> john_doe_jr: actually the makefile just copies these files for some reason...
[01:55] <L3top> !nomodeset | Dacs
[01:56] <Dacs> L3top: please understand that i am using the same laptop to chat to you now. i can only access tty
[01:56] <Dacs> l3
[01:56] <Dacs> L3top: no mouse btw :)
[01:56] <L3top> Dacs: I see. lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:56] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did you get .deb files in the build area?
[01:57] <jrib> john_doe_jr: no
[01:57] <L3top> Dacs: lynx will give you web btw in tty.
[01:57] <Dacs> L3top: i  have it
[01:58] <jp2_ubuntu> When trying to install updates in gnome on 12.04lts I keep running into "Task cannot be monitored or controlled" the connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.
[01:58] <Dacs> but don't know how to yank and paste from here to there :)
[01:58] <jp2_ubuntu> anyone have a suggestion to get update managet to work?
[01:58] <alien2050> ok.... well... it's not gtkrc because I replaced it with one from the net and it's still black although many color changes are now visible
[01:58] <alien2050> has to be gtk3 then....
[01:58] <L3top> Just give me the XXXX:XXXX part Dacs
[01:58] <Dacs> L3top: 1286209
[01:59] <Dacs> ^^ paste.ubunut.com
[01:59] <L3top> missing a number
[01:59] <john_doe_jr> jrib: any ideas how we can get all this installed?
[01:59] <Dacs> 1286209
[01:59] <L3top> Dacs: you can also sudo apt-get install pastebinit        then <command> | pastebinit
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286209/
[02:00] <aditya_> how long till 12.10 release
[02:00] <bazhang> aditya_, when its ready
[02:00] <Dacs> L3top: that is what i am using the url is http;//paste.ubunut.com/1286209
[02:00] <L3top>  lol... sorry...
[02:00] <Dacs> L3top: no problem
[02:01] <L3top> Dacs: apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep Installed
[02:02] <Dacs> L3top: i have the newest
[02:02] <L3top> pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, I would get it now if you are going to download.
[02:03] <Dacs> L3top: actually return nothing
[02:03] <L3top> ok...
[02:03] <bazhang> need the | L3top
[02:04] <bazhang> and a command
[02:04] <L3top> if you are pastebinning a file you do not use a pipe... pastebinit will paste the content of the file bazhang
[02:04] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  I'm back, are you familiar with using dd to wipe all data from a drive
[02:04] <bazhang> L3top, you need a command
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Not really, I have not needed to.
[02:05] <Dacs> L3top: can you argu with him later :)
[02:05] <alien2050> how can I find out if I have gtk 3.0, 3.2, or 3.4 ?
[02:05] <Dacs> now focus with me :)  at L3
[02:05] <L3top> root@dcerouter:/tftpboot# pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <L3top> http://pastebin.com/4xHES48m
[02:05] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ok , bc I have some drives that i'm looking to sell
[02:05] <pitviper296> anyone familiar with using dd to wipe a drive?
[02:06] <kbentley57> Yes
[02:06] <kbentley57> It's pretty easy
[02:06] <Dacs> pitviper296: i read it bfore in wikipedia
[02:06] <DaemonicApathy> Funny, L3top - when I try that, it just says it can't read it.
[02:06] <L3top> Dacs: lets try to create one for kicks. nvidia-xconfig
[02:06] <Dacs> L3top: any other suggestions
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, I have used dban myself
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> takes forever though
[02:07] <l0p3n> I have an old computer that can read cd's when logged on to Ubuntu boot not upon boot. However I can access the grub menu. Is it possible boot a cd from the grub menu?
[02:07] <john_doe_jr> jrib: found a command to downgrade a package sudo apt-get install gsoap = <version#.
[02:07] <Dacs> L3top: when i type startx it tells me that it is creating that file
[02:07] <L3top> DaemonicApathy: I am root... I am always root. That is probably why.
[02:07] <kbentley57> The basic syntax is "audi dx if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb"
[02:07] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm no longer sure that's the issue
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> l0p3n, grub2?
[02:07] <jrib> john_doe_jr: (and that only works if the package is available in one of your repositories)
[02:07] <kbentley57> Where adv is the drive you want to erase
[02:08] <kbentley57> Sdb
[02:08] <L3top> Dacs: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:08] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I see
[02:08] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: hmm how can I find out ?
[02:08] <pitviper296> Dacs: I'll take a look at that, more or less looking for the best free data wipe possible
[02:08] <DaemonicApathy> L3top: We have something in common, then. But that's not important right now. I'll let you finish. :-)
[02:08] <L3top> Dacs: if the file exists you might need to sudo the earlier pastebinit... I am not sure... as I said... I am terrible at regular user commands...
[02:08] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  not familiar with dban, what exactly is it?
[02:08] <jrib> john_doe_jr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286203/ why does it copy stdsoap2.h ok but not stdsoap2.c?  It's copying these files from the originally distributed source, right?
[02:08] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[02:09] <L3top> Dacs: brb, need more ice
[02:09] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: It says (GRUB) 1.99
[02:09] <jrib> john_doe_jr: never mind, I take back what I said in the last minute
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> l0p3n, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[02:10] <john_doe_jr> jrib: no problem…once again I really appreciate the help
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Dban is Dericks boot and Nuke
[02:11] <mcl0vin> L3top, this is Dacs
[02:11] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: wow many thanks. never thought this was possible :)
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, It is slow though.
[02:11] <jrib> john_doe_jr: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=344043 is probably related.  The gsoap package doesn't include this stdsoap2.c file
[02:11] <mcl0vin> L3top, i am in i used 'sudo statx and it let me in
[02:11] <john_doe_jr> jrib: you see I've tried to install the rpm's from the following site: http://www.nofolder.com/documentation/installation/ifolder/ under 64bit using alien on Ubuntu but I keep getting log4net errors
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> l0p3n, Grub can do just about anything other then make my coffee in the morning. ;)
[02:11] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ok I'll take a look, from what I just read on wiki how to: dd may take a very long time. But it should be worth it.
[02:12] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: LOL =D
[02:12] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: bought a hd on ebay and recovered all sorts of files off of it with testdisk, going to wipe it so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands and re-sell
[02:13] <L3top> mcl0vin!! good deal... cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:14] <mcl0vin> L3top, /usr/sbin/lightdm
[02:15] <john_doe_jr> jrib: what do you think of attempting to install the rpms from the site: http://www.nofolder.com/documentation/installation/ifolder/ under 64bit using alien…is that just asking for trouble?
[02:15] <algnux> hello ,guys,i just got a crash ,when i wanted use xchat and pidgin on my kubuntu12.04
[02:16] <mcl0vin> L3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286224/ <---- my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:16] <jrib> john_doe_jr: you can try I guess; you won't lose much since we can't get these to build
[02:17] <john_doe_jr> jrib: they build using the method on that page …can you try it ?
[02:17] <algnux> the report said the reason was they used the libenhant.so.1
[02:17] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  whats the general topic channel?
[02:17] <L3top> mcl0vin: that is a terrible xorg.conf. But it seems the issue is lightdm is not starting... more than that.
[02:17] <adoniscik> how do you launch URL files by clicking?
[02:17] <adoniscik> like in windows
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, There is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:18] <mcl0vin> L3top, what do you suggesting i should do
[02:19] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ok , curious how do i connect to new channel using the web irc?
[02:19] <L3top> well if you are only running one monitor, try dumping the xorg alltogether... sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/old.xorg.conf      and reboot... now that you know you can manually start x.
[02:19] <L3top> mcl0vin: ^
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296 /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <jrib> john_doe_jr: let me try one last thing with this deb packaging
[02:20] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ty sir
[02:24] <L3top> mcl0vin: My hand is covered in blisters, and I cannot stand typing one handed... so I have to pull it out of ice water, and dry it, every time I type... until it burns so bad I have to dunk it again... I am going to have to bow out of support right now. Sorry.
[02:26] <mcl0vin> L3top, no worries mate i hope you feel better soon , and thank you for helping me
[02:26] <jrib> L3top: time to learn one-handed dvorak
[02:27] <L3top> Ahv got blistahs on me fingahs!
[02:27] <bfortified> TEST
[02:28] <cfhowlett> bfortified: we see you.
[02:28] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i got past gsoap anway... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286234/
[02:28] <cfhowlett> !test>bfortified
[02:28] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how did you do that?
[02:29] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I removed gsoap and just used the copy of gsoap that's in /tmp/build-area/simias-1.8.3.10200.0/dependencies/external/tools/gsoap/
[02:29] <bfortified> jeez
[02:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did it build the libsimias*deb files in the build area?
[02:30] <jrib> john_doe_jr: the makefile actually uses $(GSOAP) so there's probably a ./configure parameter but I just copied it to /usr/include/ .  Anyway, now there's this new issue but I must go to bed
[02:30] <jrib> john_doe_jr: no, they won't get built if debian/rules throws an error
[02:30] <bfortified> just needed a refrence point to check persistence with smuxi
[02:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: crap…dang you got to go to bed….we are almost there
[02:38] <john_doe_jr> jrib: good night..hey u did teach me a lot ..thanks!
[02:49] <KRomeleoN> I am gonna get 12.10 tattooed on my ass
[02:49] <KRomeleoN> im so excited
[02:50] <bjrohan> Can someone help me with a weird (to me anyway) java issue? Website says it can't detect Java while still allowing the Java app to work
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | KRomeleoN
[02:52] <bjrohan> Quiet in here too, everyone must be celebrating 12.10 official release
[02:52] <Jeremy3D> anyone having problems with ubuntu 12.04 and google chrome?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> !ask > Jeremy3D
[02:52] <Theodoros> Hello, does anybody know how to disable the lowmemorykiller? (not the OOM killer)
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Theodoros, YOu were asking that on debian this is ubuntu support.
[02:53] <Theodoros> Well it's not something that specific to either?
[02:54] <Jeremy3D> sorry wilee-nilee . Ubuntu 12.04, Chrome. I have a hard time scrolling, posting in text boxes, etc.  When I write in text box nothing shows up. I can't even click and get the mouse cursor
[02:56] <whoever> Theodoros: ... ya uninstall it
[02:56] <sdollins> What time do you think 12.10 will hit final release?
[02:56] <bfortified> I have never had a problem with a chrome and Ubuntu 12.04
[02:57] <Theodoros> whoever: what's the packagename in ubuntu?
[02:57] <cfhowlett> sdollins: patience.
[02:57] <sdollins> cfhowlett: buttttttttt
[02:57] <talsamon> sdk
[02:57] <Jimster480> hey anyone around
[02:57] <sdollins> Patience and I do not like each other.
[02:57] <Jimster480> i need an expert
[02:57] <Jimster480> for a problem that is raging the hell out of me now
[02:57] <talsamon> sdollins,  it is released, i haved already installed
[02:57] <Flynsarmy> !ask | Jimster480
[02:57] <xz124> talsamon: he likely meant iso images
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> sdollins, im excited for .10 too
[02:58] <bfortified> I am an EXPERT
[02:58] <talsamon> ok
[02:58] <cfhowlett> sdollins: it's coming. It's not an iphone.  Wait.
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> im waiting for Gnomebuntu
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> since unity is so poor
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> the amazon.com thing scares me
[02:59] <Jimster480> I have an Ubuntu 10.10 Install (well its been partially upgraded a bunch of times) I installed a new 3.6.2 kernel for it today that I built myself. Now when i was installing the new fglrx i did a auto-deconfigure on the apt-get and it uninstalled all dependencies in the whole system.
[02:59] <sdollins> cfhowlett: I need a new iPhone too. :(
[02:59] <Flynsarmy> KRomeleoN: sudo apt-get remove unity-shopping-lens or something isn't ti?
[02:59] <sdollins> You can just disable it now.
[02:59] <Jimster480> What do i Do now? The ubuntu-desktop is uninstalled as well as xorg completely uninstalled and all its dependencies.
[02:59] <KRomeleoN> Flynsarmy, it should be opt in not opt out
[02:59] <Flynsarmy> sdollins: that's not great. they provide an all or nothing switch. i may not want shopping btu do like music/movie news for instance
[03:00] <Flynsarmy> KRomeleoN: agreed
[03:00] <bfortified> OHHHHHH an expert with Ubuntu! sorry total nooob here!
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> im a huuuuge gnome fan tho
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> i always install ubuntu and then gnome. i cant wait for Gnomebuntu
[03:00] <Jimster480> KRomeleoN me too
[03:00] <xangua> !ot | KRomeleoN Jimster480
[03:00] <whoever> Theodoros: tried this and nothing came up
[03:00] <Jimster480> but the thing is that Gnome3 is a complete piece of trash
[03:00] <Jimster480> so
[03:00] <whoever> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lowmemorykiller&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> i love gnome 3!
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !ot|Jimster480:
[03:00] <Jimster480> im trying to keep my old Gnome 2 setup
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> im running 3.6 its adream
[03:00] <Jimster480> its just bad in literally every way
[03:00] <xangua> Jimster480: the thing is you are usin a no loger supported ubuntu version
[03:01] <noiro> hey now, I love gnome3
[03:01] <zf> does ubuntu support cinnamon?
[03:01] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480,  have you tried mate
[03:01] <Jimster480> yea mate is a flaming POS
[03:01] <Jimster480> itsl ike half updated
[03:01] <KRomeleoN> haha
[03:01] <Jimster480> half the things work
[03:01] <KRomeleoN> idk, i love gnome 3
[03:01] <Jimster480> none of the dependencies line up right
[03:01] <noiro> They could have made customizing it a bit more user-friendly, but it's freaking awesome. And mine works fine
[03:01] <Jimster480> id rather cut myself than use gnome 3
[03:02] <Jimster480> its slow as hell, the window management is an example of how to not manage windows, the apps themselves are bad, the window bars are non interactive, it looks ugly as hell
[03:02] <Jimster480> idk
[03:02] <noiro> I just think KDE looks and 'feels' so hollow.
[03:02] <Jimster480> i cant thing of one good thing
[03:02] <Jimster480> and since i always hated KDE and still doe
[03:02] <Jimster480> i cant move to that
[03:02] <zf> I don't want to be hyperbolic but gnome 3 is literally worse than hitler
[03:02] <FloodBot1> Jimster480: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <KRomeleoN> kde feels like windows xp copied by the chinese
[03:02] <Jimster480> yea it does because KDE is terrible also
[03:02] <noiro> lol. Jim, just move to Openbox
[03:02] <Jimster480> the only desktop i ever liked was Gnome2
[03:02] <Jimster480> lol openbox is like
[03:02] <zf> actually @Jimster480 I Gnome3 isn't slow compared to Gnome2
[03:02] <zf> it just sucks more
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, xfce is pretty sweet
[03:03] <cfhowlett> Can we please move personal opinions to #ubuntu_offtopic and maintain this channel for actual support?  Thank you.
[03:03] <Jimster480> for kids running 386
[03:03] <Jeremy3D> where should i download chrome for ubuntu 12.04. from the software center or from googles website?
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> Jeremy3D, u need the .dev
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> deb
[03:03] <noiro> I dunno....Crunchbang did Openbox pretty well. ;)
[03:03] <Jimster480> well i do need support i want to know how i can install the dependencies again
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> from google
[03:03] <xangua> Jeremy3D: chromium is in the software center
[03:03] <xz124> jeremy3d: software if you want chromium, google if you want chrome
[03:03] <Jimster480> is there any way to install them again
[03:03] <Jimster480> despite them being old
[03:03] <xz124> chromium is the open source version of chrome, missing a few features that nobody uses
[03:04] <bfortified> My grandpa loved his 55 chevy doesnt mean he never bought a car besides that one
[03:04] <KRomeleoN> Chrome is kinda shitty to use on linux since its not open source
[03:04] <xz124> use chromium then
[03:04] <KRomeleoN> Firefox is still where its at
[03:04] <xangua> !language | KRomeleoN
[03:04] <Jimster480> idk i mean
[03:04] <Jeremy3D> whats the dev KRomeleoN ?
[03:04] <KRomeleoN> im kinda sad that there isnt more celebration in this chan on the eve of a major release
[03:04] <Jimster480> i like what i had
[03:05] <KRomeleoN> Jeremy3D, .deb
[03:05] <xz124> jeremy3d: .deb, not dev
[03:05] <Jimster480> well because 12.10 is not worth downloading
[03:05] <somsip> KRomeleoN: it's a supoprt channel. Try off-topic?
[03:05] <Jimster480> beause it uses unity
[03:05] <Jeremy3D> which is better, chromium or chrome? i been using chrome but having text box problems, scrolling problems, etc
[03:05] <Jimster480> which is another example of how to not do a desktop interface
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !loco>kRomeleoN
[03:05] <bfortified> I feel bad for using Chrome but I still use Chrome I like it so much better. There is always Chromium
[03:05] <Jimster480> if anyone really knows how to help me with my dependencies
[03:05] <Jimster480> please pm me
[03:05] <Jimster480> so i can get this fixed
[03:06] <Jimster480> I am a software developer and debugging is not a issue for me
[03:06] <Jimster480> i just need to get my packages resinstalled
[03:06] <xz124> !enter | Jimster480
[03:06] <Jimster480> ...
[03:06] <Jeremy3D> anyone else have a prerence, chrome or chromium for ubuntu 12.04?
[03:07] <somsip> !poll | Jeremy3D
[03:07] <xz124> jeremy3D: it honestly doesn't matter much.
[03:07] <Jimster480> ive only ever used chromium on desktops
[03:07] <KRomeleoN> i like chrome better than chromium but chromium is open so Chromium is my preference
[03:07] <Jimster480> idk that there was a chrome for linux now
[03:07] <KRomeleoN> Chrome is the only way to get new versions of adobe flash on linux
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> yea Jimster480 but i dont know if its chrome or ubuntu i'm having trouble with
[03:07] <KRomeleoN> if u need flash
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> everything else seems to act fine. just chrome i have weird issues
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> KRomeleoN, Chromium doesnt support flash?
[03:08] <bfortified> Chromium doesnt support anything proprietary right?
[03:08] <KRomeleoN> it supports flash
[03:08] <noiro> Hey guys, one thing that bugs me about Ubuntu is, is there an addon I can include with gnome or something so when I click the middle mouse button, the auto scroll wheel shows up for quickly going to the top of pages?
[03:08] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy what's your sisue with chrome?
[03:08] <KRomeleoN> but only 11.2
[03:09] <KRomeleoN> and thats it
[03:09] <Jimster480> can someone please help me get my xserver reinstalled?
[03:09] <KRomeleoN> if u need adobe flash greater than 11.2, u need Google Chrome
[03:09] <Flynsarmy> err, that was for Jeremy3D
[03:10] <KRomeleoN> i had issues with chrome where i would enter a url and nothign woukd gappen
[03:10] <KRomeleoN> happen
[03:10] <bfortified> isnt that just sudo apt-get install xorg?
[03:10] <Jimster480> no lol
[03:10] <Jeremy3D> Flynsarmy, Weird issues. Sometimes can't click in a text box, dont get cursor in text box, weird scrolling issues where only parts of the page scroll, problems with videos on youtube someitmes. etc
[03:10] <Jimster480> because all dependencies are broken now. Thats the whole reason why i am here.
[03:10] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy3D: the YT issue is that it goes at half or twice speed?
[03:11] <Jeremy3D> half and jumps around. but i'm more worried about not being able to type in text boxes
[03:11] <bfortified> maybe its time to update? 10.10 really? why not 10.04 atleast?
[03:11] <BETurner> Chrome on Linux usually has that problem primarily on HTML5 video pages.
[03:11] <Jeremy3D> also when playing videos sometimes the audio will skip 3 or 4 times in a row
[03:12] <Jeremy3D> BETurner, is chromium a better alternative for this case then?
[03:12] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy3D: it's a known issue. there's a few fixes mentioned here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=116435 the one that worked for me was disabling the built in flash and usingteh system one by goign to about:flags
[03:12] <Jimster480> 10.04 was broken
[03:12] <Jimster480> thast why i dont use it. Because the major issue with hibernation made it unusable if you had a laptop. As there was no way to sleep or hibernate
[03:12] <obtrusivemouse> need help, saying a required package was not found during a make installation but it doesnt say what the package is
[03:13] <Jimster480> and if i go to 11.04 or anything else
[03:13] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, its time to grow up to gnome 3
[03:13] <bjrohan> ffmpeg won't install and I can trace it back to it not being able to get  libx264-120. In the package manager it is not available, however  libx264-123 is, which I have installed. How do I install  libx264-120
[03:13] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy3D: not sure on your other issues. i have noticed that the mouse can disappear in VLC when running synergy...only thing i can think of that's similar
[03:13] <bfortified> yea yea unity
[03:13] <Jimster480> then im just fkd because im stuck with Either unity which is not usable or Gnome 3 which is not usable.
[03:13] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, have you tried xfce?
[03:13] <Jimster480> so i might as well just delete the linux partition and just use my Win 7 exclusively
[03:13] <bfortified> i love unity so...
[03:13] <bfortified> lol
[03:13] <Flynsarmy> Jimster480: you can disable most of unity. that's what i've done. Only bits of unity I still have are the dash and the run menu. everything else is basically gnome2
[03:14] <Jimster480> yea i hate it also, its like KDE but its made by even worse people than the morons that code that KDE crap
[03:14] <Flynsarmy> though the run menu is a PITA because you can't use tab for autocomplete
[03:14] <Jimster480> the dash is the worst part lol!
[03:14] <bfortified> really win7 is better then unity? i say enjoy windohs
[03:14] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, maybe you can buy a mac mini?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> bjrohan: that package shows it's in the universe.  Enable universe repos and you should be able to install
[03:14] <Jeremy3D> interesting read Flynsarmy
[03:14] <xangua> !eol | Jimster480 in the upgrade link, check the Requirements to change your repository to old-releases.ubuntu.com and please remember this channel is only for ubuntu supported versions
[03:14] <Jimster480> Windows 7 is better than any desktop linux lewl, but I like linux because its faster and gives me better battery life on the go, so I tinker with it.
[03:15] <obtrusivemouse> hello ?
[03:15] <KRomeleoN> hello
[03:15] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: we see you
[03:15] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, no one respond to me
[03:15] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: what's your ubuntu question?
[03:15] <Jimster480> Mac Mini LOL
[03:16] <l0ui625> ubuntu 12.10 NOW! plzz
[03:16] <Flynsarmy> Jimster480: wait until you try to build a HTPC that plugs into your amp and then to tv :( there is no perfect oS. linux = no BD and often not great codec support, XP = slow boot, vista is super sluggish, 7 and up have a screen res issue when primary monitor is turned off - they dont always fix when you turn the TV on resulting in a black screen
[03:16] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, it was about package not found in installation, now my question is, i need packages from intrepid release (im trying to install awesome 3)
[03:17] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: wait 1
[03:17] <xangua> obtrusivemouse: you are using a no longer supported ubuntu version, you need to upgrade to a supported one
[03:18] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, i am using 12.04, i need reps from a non supported ubuntu version
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !eol|obtrusivemouse: Intrepid is End of Life
[03:18] <bjrohan> How do I enable universe repos?
[03:18] <bjrohan> cfhowlett, how do I enable universe repos
[03:18] <xz124> !repos | bjrohan
[03:19] <bjrohan> ok
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !cookie|xz124:
[03:19] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, not sure if anyone understands. I'm following instructions from this site: awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/awesome-3-ubuntu-git now if you go down to step 5-7 , you see i need intrepid packages
[03:19] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: here's the link to the old iso  old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[03:19] <xangua> bjrohan: software center > edit > sources > check the first and second tab
[03:20] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, how is that going to help? do i install it and take the dependencies manually?
[03:20] <Flynsarmy> anyone happen to know if you're able to replace the unity run menu with the older run menu?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: as it's end of life, I believe you'll have to do everything manually
[03:20] <Jimster480> Windows 7 is great for a HTPC i have a HTPC with 7 on it in my living room lol
[03:20] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: you are installing awesome wm from git?
[03:21] <Ameen> awaits ubuntu 12.10
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Jimster480: stop trolling
[03:21] <xangua> awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/awesome-3-ubuntu-git < "There is currently no text in this page" obtrusivemouse also awesome is on precice repos
[03:21] <obtrusivemouse> somsip, yes i'm trying to, the installation is quite... broken
[03:21] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: as xangua has just said, awesome is in the repos. If you insist from installing from git, expect it to be more tricky
[03:21] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, you sure? so i just type in awesome and it'll download? wait trying it out.
[03:21] <Flynsarmy> Jimster480: it's great other htan the screen issue. it resizes res when the primary monitor is turned off. when you turn the tv back on it can occasionally not fix itself so you get no picture. it doesn't happen on all TVs but was happening on my samsung. it sucked hard. otherwise it was a brilliant HTPC OS
[03:22] <Ameen> when ubuntu 12.10 can be downloaded?
[03:22] <xangua> !info awesome | obtrusivemouse
[03:22] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: seriously urge you to consider upgrading to the latest LTS release 12.04
[03:22] <xangua> !isitout | Ameen
[03:22] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, great i'm an idiot.
[03:22] <Flynsarmy> Ameen: you might be looking for the #ubuntu-release-party channel
[03:23] <Ameen> I can not download it
[03:23] <Jimster480> im not trolling lol, I just want my damn Gnome 2 old distro to be fixed :/
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Ameen: it is NOT out yet.
[03:23] <somsip> Ameen: It is not out yet. Wait, then come back here and type '!isitout'
[03:23] <obtrusivemouse> flynsarmy, are you meaning something other that logging out and changing wm's?
[03:24] <Flynsarmy> obtrusivemouse: huh? what're you referring to?
[03:24] <obtrusivemouse> flynsarmy, i thought that's what you meant when you mean running an older menu
[03:25] <anders_> Hey, I need some help with an internet problem. My stationary computer is freshly installed with Ubuntu 12.04, and uses a Netgear N300 WNA3100 wireless USB to connect to the internet, but I'm missing drivers. I have internet on my laptop, but don't know how to share the internet. No guides on the internet have helped....
[03:25] <xz124> !wifi|anders_
[03:25] <Flynsarmy> obtrusivemouse: oh the run menu? the old run menu was just a standard window that you coudl use tab to autocomplete. the new unity run menu doesn't support autocomplete making it hard to get to folders quickly
[03:25] <Flynsarmy> the new run menu is relatively useless TBH. until they fix autocomplete at least
[03:25] <anders_> thanks. :)
[03:26] <Ubuntuoooga> does anyone know what time 12.10 will be released?
[03:26] <cfhowlett> !isitout|Ubuntuoooga:
[03:26] <somsip> !isiout | Ubuntuoooga
[03:27] <bfortified> I use synapse as my run menu and it works great and auto completes
[03:27]  * Ubuntuoooga silently heads over to the other channel
[03:27]  * Flynsarmy doesn't think 'silently' means what you think it means...
[03:27] <alien2050> ne1 knows how to change the unity top bar (dash?) TEXT color ?
[03:28] <Flynsarmy> gnome-tweak-tool perhaps?
[03:28] <alien2050> nah.... not there... myunity can change color but only bg
[03:29] <alien2050> gnome-tweak-tool can't do color... yet
[03:29] <Flynsarmy> Unsettings has quite a few settings but dont see colour there either
[03:30] <alien2050> maybe a css file... but I can't see which
[03:30] <tedski> I'm trying to get 12.04 ready for production to migrate our systems off lucid... we use nis netgroups in ldap and i'm noticing a bug in libpam-modules (pam_access.so specifically) 1.1.3-7ubuntu3.  I read that this is fixed in > 1.1.3 but I notice quetzal still has 1.1.3.  I tried quetzal's build anyway, but to no avail.  If i bring in pam_access.so from a 1.1.1 machine (lucid has 1.1.1), it works fine.  What is my best course of action at this point?
[03:30] <tedski> should I build my own package using pam 1.1.5?
[03:30] <tedski> should I roll all systems back to lucid's working version of libpam-modules?
[03:31] <Mcl0vin> ok so now i am able to load my desktop normal except ... i am stuck in login screen loop
[03:31] <tedski> or is there a more sane way to get an updated version of libpam-modules?
[03:31] <Mcl0vin> any ideas guys
[03:32] <alien2050> Mcl0vin: missed the first part of your problem, but usually when in a login loop there is a permissions problem on the homedir of the user youre trying to login with
[03:32] <McDickChunk> ^very true, try loggin in as root
[03:32] <alien2050> I usually do chown -R userid /home/userid
[03:33] <Mcl0vin> alien2050, but i am able to login as guest fine. so that in a sense confirm it is an issue with permissions you thing ?
[03:33] <McDickChunk> Yep
[03:33] <tedski> Mcl0vin: i would think so
[03:34] <tedski> Mcl0vin: login as guest and do ls -ld /home
[03:34] <alien2050> yeah I think so guest is not a reference for the problem
[03:34] <bfortified> sure caint hurt to chown it
[03:34] <tedski> Mcl0vin: see if /home/userid is owned by userid
[03:34] <tedski> and yeah, as bfortified noted... it won't hurt one bit to chown it anyway
[03:34] <alien2050> you can always hit ctrl-alt-f1 and login as root there
[03:34] <alien2050> no need to open a session I'd say
[03:35] <Mcl0vin> tedski, drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep  1 11:09 /home
[03:35] <Mcl0vin> this is guest
[03:35] <alien2050> not /home, check /home/userid
[03:35] <tedski> err, sorry, yeah
[03:35] <tedski> what alien2050 said
[03:35] <alien2050> do a ls -al /home/"youruseridhere"
[03:36] <tucemiux> anyone here has experience installing ubuntu on a win7 ultrabook?  The ultrabook comes with 4 primary partitions so I need to figure out which partitions I can safely delete
[03:36] <D4rkH4nd> Hello, who was it that told me to do a memtest86 ???
[03:37] <KRomeleoN> 30 minutes till 12.10
[03:37] <somsip> KRomeleoN: why do you say that?
[03:37] <bfortified> tucemiux: all of them ;)
[03:37] <D4rkH4nd> KRomeleoN: are you sure ?
[03:37] <KRomeleoN> 10/18 is in 30 min
[03:37] <xangua> !isitout | KRomeleoN D4rkH4nd
[03:37] <Mcl0vin> tedski, yes userid is owned by userid
[03:38] <tedski> Mcl0vin: interesting
[03:38] <somsip> KRomeleoN: it's released when it's ready, it takes time to propagate. Chill
[03:38] <bfortified> tucemiux: are you installing ubunut now?
[03:38] <McDickChunk> KRomeleoN: it's like a wizard, never early, never late, it comes precisely when it means to
[03:39] <Mcl0vin> tedski, any suggestion on how to fix it
[03:39] <D4rkH4nd> So i did a memtest86  as i was told. No errors. But my desktop still crashes in this order. compiz/cairo/gnome
[03:39] <tucemiux> bfortified, if i was then i wouldnt be asking here o.O
[03:39] <tucemiux> bfortified, im trying to set up a dual boot here o.O
[03:40] <urgodfather> hello room, i have a slightly off topic question. does anyone have a copy of the 4.21 FW for a PS3? i would prefer not to go to 4.25 b/c i intend to put ubuntu on it
[03:40] <bfortified> tucemiux: figured as much. sarcasim wont get you far when asking for help
[03:40] <somsip> urgodfather: you're right - offtopic. Elsewhere please.
[03:40] <Jimster480> hey guys do you know if i use my 10.10 CD can i use it as a repo to reinstall all my missing components?
[03:40] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: have you does a hdd test?
[03:40] <D4rkH4nd> yep
[03:41] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: no swolen caps?
[03:41] <D4rkH4nd> nope
[03:41] <tedski> Mcl0vin: humor us and do: chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername
[03:41] <D4rkH4nd> im gonna reinstall compiz with out mangr. I read that the mangr will crash gnome3 idk thou
[03:41] <tedski> Mcl0vin: just to make sure that's not the issue
[03:41] <dtx> Hello everyone, I have installed the arm build tools and now for some reason my amd64 ubuntu precise box keeps referring to packages ending with linaro on the end of them. Is there a way to force reinstallation of ubuntu-desktop (it was removed after I added the packages and it keeps failing installation because it references the linaro packages for everything)
[03:41] <alien2050> Mcl0vin: did you try the command I sent
[03:41] <urgodfather> somsip: im aware... but gotta try my luck
[03:42] <xangua> Jimster480: i already told you you need to use old.releases.ubuntu as the repository and the detailes instrucciones are in the Upgrade EOL web, in the Requirement section
[03:42] <dwlocks> I noticed something odd on my 11.04 install about dpkg versions: dpkg --version: 1.15.8 while dpkg -l dpkg: 1.16.0
[03:42] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: i have mgr on mine no problems
[03:42] <dwlocks> any clue as to why that might be?
[03:42] <tucemiux> bfortified, answera question with a question doesnt help much unless you dont understand the problem in which case I doubt you would help finding a solution
[03:43] <D4rkH4nd> well it said it happends with intell gpu. do have ?
[03:43] <bfortified> tucemiux: im happy to help join #tucemiux-help
[03:44] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: mine is an intel gma (netbook)
[03:44] <dwlocks> if anyone here has 11.04 installed, I'd appreciate if they could check the output of dpkg --version vs dpkg -l dpkg
[03:44] <dwlocks> my versions don't match!
[03:44] <D4rkH4nd> so it dont have intell HD then ?
[03:45] <dtx> Anybody familiar with my issue?
[03:45] <urgodfather> dtx: open a terminal and try sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:45] <Mcl0vin> tedski, what next
[03:45] <tedski> Mcl0vin: still looping?
[03:46] <dwlocks> dtx: what's linaro?
[03:46] <dtx> it removed nothing
[03:46] <dtx> urgodfather: it removed nothing
[03:46] <Mcl0vin> tedski, i will have to reboot
[03:46] <dtx> dwlocks: I was wondering that as well
[03:46]  * dwlocks googles linaro
[03:46] <dtx> dwlocks: I believe it has to do with some broken ti-imap
[03:46] <tedski> Mcl0vin: you shouldn't have to... you should be able to just log out and log back in
[03:47] <dtx> dwlocks: ti-omap package repos which I thought were for building for the platform
[03:47] <dtx> It is listed in the Software Center but then breaks when you try to install it
[03:47] <dwlocks> hmm.  Precise, is that 12.04?
[03:47] <dtx> indeed
[03:47] <urgodfather> dtx do yo have an arm chip?
[03:48] <dtx> urgodfather: I am running on an amd64 machine right now, but I was trying to get arm cross-compile for this panda board I have which does have arm
[03:48] <urgodfather> oic
[03:48] <dtx> I was trying to get tools for compiling for arm on my amd64 that is
[03:48] <dwlocks> dtx, I don't think the multi-arch stuff is quite complete enough to handle cross-compiles without chroots yet.
[03:48] <trimeta> I run a home server, which gives me the landscape-based system info whenever I log in. I like this, but I'd like to configure exactly what landscape shows, rather than just seeing the default info. Is there a way to find a sample /etc/landscape/client.conf (or even a landscape-sysinfo man page) without installing the full landscape-client package which doesn't make any sense with a single-server setup? (E.g., I'm not using Ubu
[03:49] <urgodfather> dtx for arm i would recommend archlinux
[03:49] <dtx> dwlocks: is there anyway I can force it to reinstall the amd64 ubuntu-desktop without referencing the other stuff?
[03:49] <dwlocks> I'm fighting with multi-arch in a package I'm building atm  :-(
[03:49] <bfortified> panda huh? very jealous those look fun
[03:50] <brightsparks> I can't upgrade beyond flash 10.3? I downloaded and installed 11.3 but the system just refuses to work with so went back to 10.3. ?
[03:50] <dtx> urgodfather: I just ended up running Ubuntu and compiling on the panda itself. I just want to rid myself of whatever is b0rking my system atm.
[03:50] <dwlocks> dtx: what does dpkg --print-architectures say?
[03:50] <dtx> bfortified: pandas are pretty fun, especially with stepper motors hooked up to it. :P
[03:50] <dtx> amd64
[03:51] <urgodfather> dtx didnt know ubuntu was (officialy) available for arm, yet
[03:51] <dwlocks> rly.  is the linaro reference look like something like  "libc6:linaro"
[03:51] <bfortified> dtx: I want one for a automotive pc built in wi-fi and bt right?
[03:51] <dtx> urgodfather: It's not officially supported. It's community project but it is on the download page for 12.04.1
[03:52] <dtx> dwlocks:  compiz-plugins-default : Depends: libdecoration0 (= 1:0.9.7.8-0ubuntu1.4) but 1:0.9.8+bzr3287-0linaro3 is to be installed
[03:52] <dtx> that's an example
[03:52] <urgodfather> dtx thanks for the tip
[03:52] <dwlocks> dtx: I would uninstall the cross-building tools first.
[03:52] <dtx> bfortified: bt doesn't work so far, wifi works
[03:52] <dwlocks> yeah, that's the the multi-arch stuff giving you hell.
[03:53] <dtx> is there a way to reset arch
[03:53] <dtx> force arch?
[03:53] <bfortified> dtx: no bt? no firmware support?
[03:53] <dwlocks> --force-arch forces dpkg to install what it thinks is a wrong arch.
[03:54] <dtx> bfortified: I just haven't pursued the support. It might be out there somehow.
[03:54] <dwlocks> there's a standard "fix my broken requirements" flag.
[03:54]  * dwlocks looks for it.
[03:55] <dtx> dwlocks: I did apt-get -f apt-get -m... it just keeps wanting to refer to those packages
[03:55] <bfortified> dtx: glad for the heads up  was pretty close to buying but i will have to to look into bt support. bt is a must for my project
[03:56] <Jimster480> okay you wizards its time for another question
[03:56] <PeoplesAdvocate> Is there a new Ubuntu out tomorrow? I have been out of the loop since school started!
[03:56] <dtx> bfortified: it would be nice for mine but not necessary.
[03:56] <xangua> !isitout | PeoplesAdvocate
[03:56] <Jimster480> i have the 10.10 CD mounted, Now i want to use the CD as a repository so that i can rebuild my old dependencies that it uninstalled. How do I do this?
[03:56] <bfortified> dtx: do you have a specific goal in mind or just hacking on it for now?
[03:57] <anders_> I've been to the site you guys advice me to, but no luck. Do you know of any secure way to share my wireless connection from my laptop to my stationary using cable?
[03:57] <dtx> bfortified: art project involving a magnet, sand, two steppers and a chrome ball
[03:57] <cbeust> Jimster480: tu use it as a repository, use apt-cdrom, i'm not sure I understand what you are saying about rebuilding old dependencies"
[03:58] <xangua> Jimster480: i have already told you what to do to have working repositories, so please stop asking for support for a no longer supported version
[03:58] <dwlocks> dtx: have you tried "apt-get install -f"?  Honestly, I'd try dpkg -P <cross-building-tools> first.  whatever the crossbuild tools were.
[03:58] <ssshvb> hey I installed ubuntu on my hp workstation without problems (from CD)  but i can not boot it.  the system does not show an ubuntu boot menu .  I have Win7 on the station as well.  as a result i can load only win7 and i can not get access to ubuntu
[03:58] <bfortified> dtx: art project or bedroom toy :0
[03:58] <trigger_kill> If I install 12.04 now, and then upgrade when given the chance, will there be any diffrences to if i simply installed 12.10 directly?
[03:58] <dtx> dwlocks: I think it's actually this TI OMAP specific crap in the repo. It was broken so I tried to fix the line, and probably f#$%ed everything.
[03:59] <Jordan_U> ssshvb: Do you have more than one hard drive, and do you know of your computer uses UEFI?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> trigger_kill: of course.  Do you really NEED 12.10?
[03:59] <dwlocks> dtx: gonna make a japanese garden with a magic rolling ball bearing?  nifty.
[03:59] <dtx> bfortified: no bedroom toy should involve sand ;)
[03:59] <trigger_kill> No, but my current install is messed up
[03:59] <cfhowlett> trigger_kill: 12.04 is Long Term Support good for 5 years.
[03:59] <Jeremy3D> whoever was helping with my chrome issue earlier, I downloaded Chromium and installed Flash and everything seems to be working better for now. Thanks for the help!
[03:59] <dwlocks> dtx: "crap in the repo"?  you mean sources.list?
[03:59] <bfortified> dtx: valid
[03:59] <dtx> dwlocks: not too far off
[03:59] <dtx> yeah
[03:59] <anders_> I've been to the site you guys advice me to, but no luck. Do you know of any secure way to share my wireless connection from my laptop to my stationary using cable?
[03:59] <KRomeleoN> Jeremy3D, good to hear
[03:59] <cfhowlett> trigger_kill: suggestion install 12.04. Stick with LTS only releases.  Next LTS will be 14.04
[03:59] <dtx> It added a couple bad source lines
[04:00] <dtx> I can tell you the package
[04:00] <dtx> hold on
[04:00] <Jeremy3D> thanks KRomeleoN
[04:00] <dwlocks> dtx: ahh...  I've never needed to tease out what packages come from what repo.
[04:00] <ssshvb> Jordan_U do not know what is uefi
[04:01] <dwlocks> dtx: there's probably a log of what got installed.  uninstall and remove the TI-OMAP repo package last.
[04:01] <dwlocks> *then do apt-get install -f
[04:01] <dtx> I don't think I got anything actually from it
[04:01] <Nautilus> The other day I ran "sudo apt-get install libcompass-ruby" ... it seemed to go ok and installed many dependencies.  What I'd like to do is a nice uninstall that uninstalls the dependencies too.  What's a good way of doing it ... I don't want to make a mess by experimenting.
[04:02] <trimeta> If the dependencies are only there because apt-get installed them, apt-get remove should remove them, IIRC.
[04:02] <trigger_kill> wouldn't you need to use apt-get autoremove?
[04:02] <trimeta> That is, apt-get remove libcompass-ruby will also remove its dependencies, if nothing else needs them.
[04:02] <Nautilus> that's my understanding but am hoping to confirm
[04:02] <dwlocks> dtx: I guess then just comment out the TI-OMAP sources in /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt-get update, and try apt-get install -f
[04:02] <Jordan_U> ssshvb: It's a new kind of boot firmware (replacing the BIOS interface). If you boot from a LiveCD, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces I can tell you what type of firmware you have, and hopefully how to get Ubuntu booting.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ssshvb
[04:02] <cbeust> Nautilus: apt-get remove libcompass-ruby ; apt-get autoremove
[04:03] <dwlocks> dtx: <disclaimer>but I'm really not a super duper expert. </disclaimer>
[04:03] <dtx> Yeah that's what I kinda tried
[04:03] <Nautilus> cbeust: 'remove', not 'uninstall'?
[04:03] <cbeust> Nautilus: yes
[04:03] <cbeust> Nautilus: (man apt-get)
[04:03] <Nautilus> what does the autoremove do?
[04:03] <ssshvb> i booted right now from livecd
[04:03] <dtx> That package should be removed
[04:03] <trigger_kill> automaticly removes unused dependicies, i think
[04:04] <dwlocks> dtx: did you apt-get update?
[04:04] <cbeust> Nautilus: removes packages which were installed only to satisfy dependencies which are no longer needed
[04:04] <Nautilus> thanks, lemme give them a go
[04:05] <dwlocks> Nautilus: I always use apt-get -s when I'm not sure what's going to happen...
[04:05] <dtx> dwlocks: Yep
[04:05] <ssshvb> thanks let me have a look
[04:05] <dtx> It looks like it pulls them from here
[04:05] <dtx> http://ppa.launchpad.net/tiomap-dev/release/ubuntu/dists/precise/
[04:05] <Nautilus> dwlocks: ah, gotcha
[04:05] <cbeust> Nautilus: when you apt-get install a b c and that results in Q W E in also being install, apt marks a,b,c as being "manually installed" and Q,W,E as being "automatically installed".  autoremove asks to remove any packages which are marked as auto which aren't depended on by installed packages marked as manual to be removed
[04:05] <trimeta> Hmm, does aptitude remove add an autoremove at the end? I always use aptitude, rather than apt-get, so that may be why I've seen it remove dependencies in one step.
[04:06] <dwlocks> dtx: if sources.list has those repos commented out, then the packages should not be listed as available
[04:06] <dtx> dwlocks: That's what's baffling me
[04:06] <dtx> hold on a sec
[04:06] <dwlocks> dtx: did you try apt-get install -f?  you've already done everything I'd do.
[04:06] <xangua> !aptitude | trimeta
[04:07] <Nautilus> removing didn't take out the dependencies but autoremove did
[04:07] <dtx> dwlocks: yep
[04:07] <trimeta> xangua: I mean, does aptitude remove have a different behavior from regular apt-get remove? I'm not actually having any issues regarding this, I'm just curious.
[04:07] <dtx> Is there a way I can say install ubuntu-desktop assuming nothing is downloaded?
[04:08] <dwlocks> ok... you need to find whatever package is trying to pull in the *-linaro package.
[04:08] <cbeust> trimeta: it also does autoremove
[04:08] <anders_> In pure desperation I deleted Ubuntu and trying over again with Windows Installer, but is there anyway I can use the Windows driver to run the Wireless USB stick in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <dtx> The problem is it is a linaro package
[04:08] <dtx> I'm just going to keep uninstalling until it works and hope my system keeps working
[04:09] <dtx> lol
[04:09] <dwlocks> dtx: that's ok.  dpkg -P every *linaro package.
[04:09] <dtx> omg
[04:09] <dtx> dwlocks: I removed a ton already
[04:09] <dtx> I was just one package away
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> anders_, wireless sticks are cheap, there is a wiki that lists ones that work, buy one that works.
[04:10] <trimeta> cbeust: Ah, that's what I was wondering. I knew there was a reason I got into the habit of using aptitude rather than apt-get. (I'm on an amd64 system, so unless multilib runs into the same problems as multi-arch, which I do not believe is the case, I don't have to worry about the aforementioned aptitude bug.)
[04:10] <dtx> It looks like it will install now
[04:10] <dtx> lol
[04:10] <xangua> anders_ if there are no native drivers for that dongle you could try ndiswrapper to load the windows driver (.inf file, the xp driver version is advised)
[04:10] <dtx> I'm gonna file a bug on the TI IMAP package saying it's a POS and they need to kill it with fire
[04:10] <anders_> Ok, will try that xangua
[04:10] <dtx> OMAP*
[04:10] <dwlocks> dtx:  well there you go!
[04:11] <cbeust> trimeta: i dunno.  I haven't found the need for multi-arch stuff yet
[04:11] <obtrusivemouse> having trouble connecting to wifi on command line, what's the wireless app?
[04:11] <trimeta> I once did some cross-compiling to get software running on an Arduino, but I used my Gentoo laptop for that, not my Ubuntu server.
[04:12] <ssshvb> ive got the result of bootinfoscript
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> ssshvb, Pastebin the text.
[04:12] <dtx> How do I reinstall the 386 pkgs?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[04:13] <obtrusivemouse> also http://askubuntu.com/questions/138472/how-do-i-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-network-using-the-command-line can anyone explain the textbox in answer 1? i tried it but it gives me unknown global field and invalid config
[04:14] <ssshvb> have no idea how to do it
[04:14] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ssshvb
[04:15] <ssshvb> thanks
[04:15] <Pholey> hey a quick question, dont know if anybody here runs linux mint
[04:15] <Jimster480> xangua: thanks i figured out how to add it to my system. hopefully this will fix it
[04:15] <ssshvb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286306/
[04:16] <xangua> !mint | Pholey they do there
[04:16] <Pholey> gahh
[04:16] <Pholey> well do any of you have any idea on how to get a notification to come up when your battery is low?
[04:18] <cbeust> Pholey: have you tried draining the battery?
[04:18] <jam__> hey everybody. does boot repair recomended button delete ubuntu?
[04:19] <Pholey> cbeust yes, i have lost my work a couple of times due to sudden shut offs.
[04:19] <jam__> I needed to reinstall my windows 7 but I still need my dual boot
[04:19] <cbeust> Pholey: have you tried ubuntu?
[04:19] <cbeust> Pholey: have you tried file-> save?
[04:19] <dwlocks> dtx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchCross  oy.  good luck!
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> jam__, The recommended button loads the mbr with the grub bootloader.
[04:20] <Jimster480> xangua: i love you
[04:20] <Pholey> cbeust very funny, honestly. but when im grinding on a paper, i dont think about anything but words lol
[04:21] <jam__> so what does it mean wilee? I have grub????!! so why i can not see that purple page to choose windows or ubuntu
[04:21] <cbeust> is "grinding on a paper" a sexual thing?  I don't know what this means
[04:21] <GoodHeartedGuy> hi.. any one knows the release time of the ubuntu 12.10?
[04:21] <GoodHeartedGuy> is it 4 pm UK time?
[04:21] <xangua> !isitout | GoodHeartedGuy
[04:22] <Jordan_U> ssshvb: OK. It looks like your computer is configured to boot via BIOS, but also has UEFI. Ubuntu installed a UEFI bootloader (since your machine booted the CD via UEFI) but Windows is using a BIOS based bootloader. So, the way to get Ubuntu working is to install a BIOS based bootloader for Ubuntu.
[04:22] <GoodHeartedGuy> i mean its suppose to be released today.. but don't know the time
[04:22] <jam__> wilee-nilee__,if i still have grub2 so why i cannot see the dual boot page to choose ubuntu?
[04:23] <GoodHeartedGuy> no body knows whats the GMT time for release of ubuntu?
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> jam__, You will need to backup and give me more info.
[04:23] <ealeon> ive never lefT?
[04:24] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> jam__, Did you install ubuntu from windows to begin with?
[04:24] <ealeon> yes he did
[04:25] <jam__> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and win7 dualboot in seperate partition(not wubi  installer) they are completely separate
[04:25] <ealeon> yeah but they share RAM
[04:25] <ealeon> how much RAM you got on ubuntu?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> jam__, So you have to installs W7 and Ubuntu what is the problem would help here.
[04:25] <jam__> ubuntu is not installed on windows
[04:26] <ealeon> ubuntu is OS and so is windows.....
[04:26] <l0ui625> anyone got the ubuntu 12.10 yet?
[04:26] <ealeon> not out yet
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !isitiout|l0ui625:
[04:26] <dwlocks> is anyone still running 11.04 (natty)
[04:27] <ealeon> no 12.03
[04:27] <ealeon> 04
[04:27] <jam__> no Im reinstalling win7 and i used bootrepair to continue win install process. and I can not see ubuntu anymore should i install ubuntu from the begining or it is still there?
[04:27] <jam__> to sum up how can i log in ubuntu after reinstalling windows
[04:28]  * dwlocks does not believe in  multiboot
[04:28] <ealeon> get w8
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> jam__, Why would you use the bootrepair to finish a windows install, is this a UEFI setup?
[04:28] <l0ui625> i want 12.10 NOW!
[04:28] <Elesa> Hi, just a quick question, is a /boot partition really needed? If yes, why?
[04:28] <jam__> I don't know uefi?
[04:28] <dwlocks> windows installers usually overwrite the boot sector, but I haven't done it in awhile.
[04:29] <dwlocks> uefi is a new way to specify where the boot info is, right?
[04:29] <jam__> but i can not continue installing windows after the first restart in instaling windows
[04:29] <cbeust> Elesa: if / is on raid. if / is encrypted.  if / is on lvm. probably others
[04:29] <jam__> I face with a page grub repair
[04:29] <dwlocks> http://www.uefi.org/about/
[04:30] <nytona> ciao
[04:30] <ocrpy> buenas
[04:30] <l0ui625> hola
[04:30] <nytona> ed ora ome faccio a scaricare
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> jam__, So windows boots now correct? You wont see ubuntu from windows in the bootloader or in computer, you can reload grub using the recommended button in bootrepair, it also generates a bootscript, if you have problems post the HTTP address of that script.
[04:30] <ealeon> how do you access an ip addr thats not registered on DNS or within your network?
[04:31] <ocrpy> alguien puede ayudarme?
[04:31] <l0ui625> que necesitas?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> english channel
[04:31] <ocrpy> problema con ubuntu
[04:31] <ealeon> si senor
[04:31] <jam__> wilee-nilee__, so i need to run boot repair for second time?
[04:31] <ealeon> que pasa?
[04:31] <nytona> italiano canale ??
[04:31] <l0ui625> cual es tu problema?
[04:31] <jam__> again recomended setting?
[04:32] <ealeon> aieee papi
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> jam__, YOu have left so much out here, second time has no context.
[04:32] <ocrpy> cuando instale la version del grub de ubuntu ya no pude ver las particiones de windows
[04:32] <ealeon> aieee papi
[04:32] <l0ui625> tipico
[04:32] <Elesa> thanks cbeust, I guess I don't need it :D
[04:32] <ocrpy> esq formatee la maquina
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> ocrpy, This is an english channel.
[04:32] <jam__> ok then thanks wilee-nilee
[04:33] <ealeon> chulo pinga
[04:33] <xangua> !es |  l0ui625 ocrpy
[04:33] <l0ui625> busca info en google
[04:33] <xangua> ealeon: stop that please
[04:33] <Elesa> ocrpy: Si no estoy equivocada, el canal en espanol es #ubuntu-es
[04:33] <usr13> Elesa: Separate /home is more important that /boot
[04:33] <ealeon> xangua, sorry
[04:33] <Elesa> usr13: Cool, thanks!
[04:33] <l0ui625> tienes que hacer recovery con el dvd de windows
[04:33] <ocrpy> ok thanks
[04:34] <l0ui625> y reparar el inicio desde cmd
[04:34] <l0ui625> googlea es algo tipico
[04:34] <usr13> Elesa:  I use 3 partitions, swap and / and /home (in that order).
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !es|l0ui625:
[04:34] <T_A_N_K> Hello
[04:34] <Elesa> Why swap first?
[04:34] <usr13> Elesa: speed
[04:34] <l0ui625> i talk both dude cfhowlett
[04:35] <l0ui625> i just want to help
[04:35] <T_A_N_K> I am sorry to bother you all, how do i get the .deb for wine 1.4 for the macintosh ubuntu archetexture? I have been looking for it for about 6 hours now and there is no trace of it on launchpad, i am trying to install wine on a computer with no internet.
[04:35] <usr13> Elesa: Speed and convenience.  Swap is smallest, /  is second smallest, /home is large
[04:36] <Elesa> I always made / first, then swap and finally home lol
[04:36] <Elesa> Is that slower?
[04:36] <usr13> Elesa: swap maybe 4G  / maybe 20G  and the rest for /home
[04:36] <nytona> ciao
[04:36] <Elesa> I have 4 GB of RAM
[04:37] <usr13> Writing takes place on the outer edge of a disk first.
[04:37] <T_A_N_K> So i am guessing ubuntu does not carry offline debs for the macintosh architecture any more?
[04:37] <nytona> lista fila
[04:37] <Elesa> T_A_N_K: You mean Power PC?
[04:37] <nytona> lista film
[04:37] <T_A_N_K> Yes
[04:38] <T_A_N_K> I have been trying to find wine 1.4 for powerpc for about 6 hours now
[04:38] <Elesa> To be honest I don't even know if there's wine for Power PC
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> There is, but i cannot use the internet
[04:39] <SqueakyBelle> I don't think wine for PPC would work because of the x86 vs PPC arch differences
[04:39] <usr13> T_A_N_K: Why not?
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> i need wine to install my netgear adapter, i know, it sounds strange, but i just need it to work because i've done this before
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> T_A_N_K, Have you stopped by #winehq
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> Just not on powerpc
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> Good idea
[04:39] <dubwoc> ask one ask all
[04:39] <dubwoc> ahh yeah
[04:39] <Elesa> I don-t think that would work in Power PC
[04:40] <Elesa> Since that driver is supposed to be for x86?
[04:40] <Elesa> You could try ndiswrapper instead?
[04:40] <SqueakyBelle> I think that's what he's trying to do
[04:40] <dubwoc> you can't mix drivers and architectures like that..
[04:40] <SqueakyBelle> ^
[04:41] <ssshvb> sorry got DC
[04:41] <Elesa> I figured ndiswrapper doesn't work with drivers of different architectures. xD
[04:41] <SqueakyBelle> It doesn't. I've tried.
[04:42] <T_A_N_K> ndiswrapper does not work at all, it is crap. Wine works great for installing netgear adapters.
[04:43] <Elesa> Umm, like.. Wine is supposed to run Windows software, not integrate drivers with a *NIX system. o_o
[04:43] <OerHeks> Elesa +1
[04:43] <SqueakyBelle> Elesa +2
[04:44] <T_A_N_K> Would there be a way to install windows over ubuntu?
[04:44] <Elesa> Hehe. <3
[04:44] <Elesa> Windows OVER Ubuntu?
[04:44] <OerHeks> T_A_N_K, no
[04:44] <T_A_N_K> Yes, i am running a hackintosh
[04:45] <Elesa> You mean installing Windows drivers? I don't think so.
[04:45] <T_A_N_K> No, i mean booting windows with grub.
[04:45] <SqueakyBelle> How can you run a PPC hackintosh?
[04:45] <Elesa> ^
[04:46] <T_A_N_K> I was running it before, but it crashed. Now i am using the same model, but i've forgotten what i did.
[04:46] <SqueakyBelle> Uhhh...
[04:46] <Elesa> T_A_N_K: First of all, you can't run Windows in a Power PC machine. ._.
[04:46] <T_A_N_K> I've already done it.
[04:47] <Elesa> Also, you couldn't have a Hackintosh since a Mac computer with a Power PC should have.. well, Mac OS.
[04:47] <Elesa> lol
[04:48] <Elesa> T_A_N_K: Either you're virtualizing Windows, or you really have a x86/x64 processor. xD
[04:48] <T_A_N_K> I have a powerpc architechture
[04:48] <dtx> OMG my system is so fucked
[04:48] <Elesa> Then how can you say that you have booted Windows on it? That's impossible unless you virtualize it.
[04:48] <RaringOne> dtx: No swearing in here please
[04:49] <dtx> RaringOne: Sorry, thought I was in chat
[04:49] <Elesa> Anyway, you're better off searching for a Netgear driver written specifically for your.. Power PC machine.
[04:49] <Elesa> You can't mix architectures.
[04:49] <T_A_N_K> Nevermind, i found the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYBWMD6cg8
[04:50] <T_A_N_K> Good day to you all.
[04:50] <basketballstar> what time tomarrow will 12.10 be up for installation
[04:52] <Elesa> Umm, encrypting /home is not a very good idea, is it?
[04:52] <Elesa> I tried it twice, and the two times, some lvm thing failed to mount the drive.. or something.
[04:52] <Elesa> It's also slower, right?
[04:53] <nytona> ciao
[04:53] <somsip> !list | nytona
[04:53] <Areckx> how to use pastebinit or any similar packages? It keeps saying incorrect API
[04:54] <nytona> film
[04:54] <cbeust> ciao
[04:54] <basketballstar> when does 12.10 come out
[04:55] <cbeust> october?
[04:55] <whatwhat> why everyting in linux is difficult
[04:55] <whatwhat> not user friendly
[04:55] <Elesa> whatwhat: It depends on your definition of user friendly and easy.
[04:55] <RaringOne> somsip: You were right in this case but please don't assume all italian users are looking for warez.
[04:55] <cbeust> and everything
[04:55] <alien2050> whatwhat: it's not, but you need to shift your mentality
[04:56] <whatwhat> it is alien unless you are talking about some programming stuffs
[04:56] <whatwhat> it is not
[04:56] <alien2050> it's more powerful, more flexible, and you can finally work with a computer instead of updating your OS and antivirus every 2 minutes
[04:56] <somsip> RaringOne: that's 2 nil to me. I'll stop while I'm ahead. Point taken
[04:56] <Elesa> whatwhat: Also, things are different in Linux, not precisely harder. For example, would you rather download Firefox from the Software Center, or open up another browser, type firefox.com, go to the download page, wait for it to download, and install it yourself?
[04:56] <cbeust> whatwhat: huh?
[04:56] <GothicKitty93> Obvious troll is obvious...
[04:56] <Elesa> ^
[04:57] <whatwhat> install a software should be easy but in linux is it tough
[04:57] <whatwhat> to get this done
[04:57] <cfhowlett> whatwhat: so use something else
[04:57] <bjrohan> What are some backup utilites you use? I tried Deja Dup, but it is NOT automatic, never has been for me, always says it is waiting for a network connection when I am connected to my network and can browse the ssh directory I want to store the backup in
[04:57] <gartral|2> hey all, can someone tell me what's going on here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286340/
[04:58] <RaringOne> !manual | whatwhat
[04:58] <Elesa> whatwhat: did you even read what I typed? Installing most things a typical user needs takes like 1 search and 2 clicks in Ubuntu. In Windows it involves Googling stuff and installing them yourself.
[04:58] <whatwhat> that's the reason why linux will not be a wildly adopted
[04:58] <Elesa> Obvious troll, is obvious.
[04:58]  * Elesa shuts up.
[04:58] <RaringOne> whatwhat: Do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[04:58] <alien2050> whatwhat: no it's not... it s actually a lot easier than M$ where you need to run on all the different websites one by one
[04:58] <GothicKitty93> Can we vote kick like TF2 lol?
[04:58] <cbeust> gartral|2: its trying to load a file that doesn't exists
[04:59] <alien2050> to get software that may or may not be free
[04:59] <cbeust> exist*
[04:59] <gartral|2> cbeust: but it does exist!
[04:59] <cbeust> gartral|2: try ldd or strace to figure out what
[04:59] <Elesa> GothicKitty93: That would be awesome! xD
[04:59] <cbeust> gartral|2: which exists?
[04:59] <gartral|2> cbeust: the SPAZ installer binary
[04:59] <dominic_> whatwhat: as what alien2050 said, you need to change your point of view
[04:59] <alien2050> or even worst, winbloze doesn't boot anymore, why ? nobody knows
[05:00] <cbeust> gartral|2: and running that tries to load something that doesn't exist
[05:00] <whatwhat> dominic , the developer of linux os need to change their view instead
[05:00] <Elesa> I think we shouldn't argue with him. >.>
[05:00] <GothicKitty93> !votekick
[05:00] <whatwhat> if they care to make it big
[05:00] <Elesa> "The developer of Linux OS"
[05:00] <cbeust> whatwhat: send the devleoper of linux an email
[05:00] <Elesa> LMAO
[05:00] <Elesa> xDDDDDDDDDDD
[05:00] <alien2050> good luck repairing the OS! in ubuntu it is extremely modular so a lot easier, but also a bit more basic knowledge needed initially
[05:01] <GothicKitty93> This guy is obviously a spy...
[05:01] <RaringOne> !ot | Everybody
[05:01] <Elesa> He's obviously trolling. I suggest we stop arguing with him. Also, whatwhat, type this: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:01] <alien2050> ;)
[05:01] <dominic_> +1
[05:01] <Elesa> There you can evangelize all of us into using Windows or Mac.
[05:02] <RaringOne> Elesa: please take your own advice and drop it
[05:02] <gartral|2> cbeust: strace is giving me very strange output
[05:02] <cbeust> Elesa: not mac, he's identified unix as the problem
[05:02] <alien2050> ha! good one
[05:02] <anders_> Then I'm back again.... Fresh Ubuntu yet again, still no luck with the wireless USB. How can I install Ndiswrapper without internet? I got a .tar.gz file, but I don't know how to install it
[05:03] <starbuck33> one question: is 12.10 going to be officially released today?
[05:03] <gartral|2> cbeust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286350/
[05:03] <RaringOne> !party | starbuck33
[05:03] <xangua> !isitout | starbuck33
[05:03] <cbeust> gartral|2: you'll want -f to strace
[05:03] <starbuck33> !party
[05:03] <cbeust> gartral|2: the "bin" file is probably forking
[05:05] <cbeust> gartral|2: are you on 64 bit and this bin is 32 bit?
[05:07] <schnappi> is it out?
[05:07] <whatwhat> fanboy will always be fanboy  ignoring the probem .
[05:07] <gartral|2> cbeust: I think it's supposet to be a universal
[05:07] <bjrohan> Does anyone on here use a GUI to do a regular backup over ssh? If so what?
[05:08] <cbeust> gartral|2: huh?
[05:08] <gartral|2> cbeust: I think the binary is suppost to be architecture-independant
[05:08] <bjrohan> Can anyone on here hear me?
[05:08] <bjrohan> :-D
[05:08] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is it better to run ubuntu on a virtual machine under windows, or to run windows on a virtual machine under linux?
[05:08] <cbeust> gartral|2: what does "file" say it is?
[05:08] <Elesa> dsnyders: I think it depends on what you want to do.
[05:08] <dtx> bjrohan: no, I have tts turned off.
[05:09] <bjrohan> :-)
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> dsnyders, It is a personal choice there is no better
[05:09] <Elesa> Or what system you feel more comfortable with.
[05:09] <bjrohan> dsnyder - deleted windows
[05:09] <cbeust> gartral|2: i don't know what an architecture independant binary means
[05:09] <Elesa> I'm not sure if Ubuntu with Unity will behave well in a Virtual Machine though. D:
[05:09] <bjrohan> dsnyders - remove windows
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> !who
[05:10] <bjrohan> !tab
[05:10] <bjrohan> aahh
[05:10] <Elesa> Bbl.
[05:10] <gartral|2> cbeust: I thought it would be able to be used for either 32 or 64 bit. but indeed it's 32-bit only
[05:11] <cbeust> gartral|2: well in any case, its the same answer, its trying to load a library you don't have installed
[05:11] <cbeust> gartral|2: have you tried ldd?
[05:12] <gartral|2> cbeust: the binary is not a dymaic exacutable
[05:12] <gartral|2> executable*
[05:12] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I'm not sure what you mean by your comment "remove windows".
[05:12] <cbeust> gartral|2: lies.  your ldd doesn't know how to read it.
[05:13] <cbeust> gartral|2: are you running a 64 bit os?
[05:13] <gartral|2> cbeust: indded
[05:13] <cbeust> gartral|2: is libc6-i386 installed?
[05:13] <anders_> Can anybody tell how the f... I can get ndiswrapper on my Ubuntu 12.04 without internet?
[05:14] <gartral|2> cbeust: will be soon
[05:14] <dsnyders> anders_, USB thumb drive from another machine?
[05:14] <bjrohan> dsnyders sorry I was being funny.
[05:15] <bjrohan> Does anyone have a good backup app that works well over ssh?
[05:15] <bjrohan> or recommend one?
[05:15] <dsnyders> bjrohan, rsync perhaps?
[05:16] <anders_> dsnyders: I've tryed with .deb files and tar.gz but haven't got it to work either way
[05:16] <Juego> How do I turn down the graphics on the live CD?
[05:16] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyders: For what it's worth, I switched completely to Ubuntu with a new SSD, and run Win8 in a VM.
[05:16] <bjrohan> dsnyders is it a gui? I need GUI :-(
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> Juego, Turn down?
[05:17] <dsnyders> DaemonicApathy, That was the direction I was heading in.  I am without experience when it comes to virtual machines.  Can two VMs talk to each other via networking?
[05:17] <anders_> I've been working to get Ubuntu work on mye stationary for 5 hours now... please help...
[05:18] <dsnyders> bjrohan, No, it's not gui itself, but I believe there are wrappers for it.
[05:18] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyder: I've never needed to go that far down the rabbithole, but I do know you can share a host folder as an intermediary.
[05:18] <bjrohan> so grsync would work well?
[05:18] <bjrohan> better than deja crap?
[05:18] <DaemonicApathy> * dsnyders
[05:19] <bjrohan> Deja Dup worked otay once, won't do it on schedule
[05:19] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I can
[05:19] <bjrohan> dsnyders you can what?
[05:19] <anders_> Is it easy to share my internet (from laptop) to my stationary (via cable) in 12.04?
[05:20] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I can't say.  I've never used it.  My "backup strategy" is to buy the next sized up hard disk and drag/drop
[05:20] <bjrohan> Gotcha
[05:20] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I accidentally hit return on that one, sorry.
[05:22] <bkc_> bjrohan: If you're familiar with the terminal I'd recommend rsync :)
[05:23] <dsnyders> Well, thanks all for your help and advice.  Sunrise in in a few hours and I need to get enough beauty sleep to keep children from screaming in horror when they see me.
[05:23] <anders_> dsnyders: can you help me with a easy guide or step-by-step on how to share internet?
[05:23] <dsnyders> anders_, Sadly, I can't tonight.
[05:24] <anders_> Ok, but thanks. :)
[05:24] <excedere> Trying to get logkeys to run on ubuntu 12 on an older Mac, just prints the help every time I try to start it.  Any ideas?
[05:25] <hai> ？？
[05:27] <bjrohan> will rsync allow for the exclusion of subfolders?
[05:28] <lestus> which flavour of ubuntu does everyone prefer>
[05:30] <lestus> do you gutu?ys like xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu or plain ol' ubun
[05:31] <dArKd3ViL> where's ubuntu release party?
[05:31] <bkc_> lestus: If I'm forced to use ubuntu at all, I prefer Kubuntu on high-end computers and xubuntu/lubuntu on mid/low-end computers... plain ubuntu is out of the question because I simply hate unity...
[05:31] <bkc_> dArKd3ViL: everywhere?
[05:31] <excedere> Xubuntu on my older machine, plain Ubuntu on the girlfriends rig
[05:31] <excedere> she loves unity, lol
[05:31] <dArKd3ViL> nopf, i mean on what irc channel? :P
[05:31] <dArKd3ViL> *no
[05:31] <bkc_> ooh
[05:31] <bkc_> !releaseparty
[05:31] <bkc_> dArKd3ViL: ^
[05:33] <dArKd3ViL> i miss partybot
[05:33] <dArKd3ViL> where is he anyway?
[05:34] <AcidHaze> anyone taking questions about 12.04
[05:34] <smw> !ask | AcidHaze
[05:34] <bjrohan> !patience
[05:36] <AcidHaze> ihave an issue : using 12.04 on an asus x401a * Model * where no media cards will mount manually or auto mount i have tried writing in the fstab but still no go
[05:39] <excalibr> can someone explain me how the value Y in grub's "set root (hdX,Y)" is numbered?
[05:40] <c_nick> I read a couple of links on how to install windows 8 on Virtualbox(Ubuntu) But i constantly get http://imageshack.us/a/img87/8428/win8errorscreenshot.png error even though i followed everything properly.
[05:40] <bkc_> excalibr: 0 -> (partition-count - 1)
[05:42] <excalibr> bkc_: what do you mean by 0..doesn't the value starts from 1?
[05:43] <lbbef> Hi, I would like to help update the blender package in the universe repo, how do i go about doing that?
[05:43] <bkc_> mine says "root (hd0,0)", for sda1... so it's from 0 :)
[05:43] <chovynz> hi all. What is the CLI command's for finding all files with spaces and renaming them with underlines? I have done this before with this channels help but cannot remember the command.
[05:43] <bkc_> lbbef: become a maintainer :)
[05:43] <info> i want to check whether a command exist of not, in shell script. how can i do that?
[05:44] <chovynz> info: man command or info command
[05:44]  * bkc_ slaps chovynz with "read what he said again..." :)
[05:44] <chovynz> info: there's also command -? or command --help
[05:45] <obtrusivemouse> i cant get xdefaults to pop up, i don't think it exists, should it exist?
[05:45] <bkc_> info: if [ `which command` != "" ]; then echo "I exist ^.^" ; fi
[05:45] <chovynz> bkc is my statement not true?
[05:45] <bkc_> chovynz: nope :)
[05:45] <chovynz> bkc lol ok
[05:45] <bkc_> chovynz: also, for [
[05:45] <lbbef> bkc_: how do i become a maintainer??
[05:45] <excalibr> info:: command -v foobar
[05:45] <bkc_> aargh... I hate my enter-key -.-
[05:46] <bkc_> lbbef: no idea, havn't used ubuntu since may :/
[05:46] <chovynz> bkc_: can you substitute it for the any key?
[05:46] <bkc_> and never been a maintainer
[05:46] <bkc_> chovynz: ;)
[05:47] <chovynz> bkc_: may i ask why you stopped using ubuntu?
[05:47] <obtrusivemouse> is it true you have to create your own xdefaults, vimrc and xsession files?
[05:48] <bkc_> chovynz: found Arch Linux :)
[05:48] <bkc_> chovynz: I like simplicity, that's all :)
[05:48] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: they are to add your own settings. By default, they are empty (never used .xsessions myself though)
[05:49] <somsip> s/empty/absent
[05:49] <obtrusivemouse> somsip, thanks, i thought i had to download more files, right now i'm trying to customize my own desktop
[05:50] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: be aware that you need to look at .xDefaults and .vimrc - not as you typed them
[05:51] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: sorry - .Xdefaults
[05:52] <obtrusivemouse> somsip, does the capitalization matter?
[05:52] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: yes
[05:52] <chovynz> hi all. What is the CLI command's for finding all files with spaces (ex-windows-files) and renaming them with underlines? I have done this before with this channels help but cannot remember the command.
[05:53] <somsip> chovynz: this migth help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4617275/how-to-replace-backslashes-from-windows-formatted-files-into-nix-format-and-ree
[05:54] <excalibr> chovynz: find + rename
[05:54] <BadDesign> Does the proprietary AMD Linux x64 driver work for ATI RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]  ?
[05:55] <SAKUJ0> i am curious, at what time is 12.10 release due? it is probably around us afternoon, amirite?
[05:56] <somsip> SAKUJ0: when it's ready. It's not a fixed time
[05:56] <info> chovynz: i want to check whether  command "fuser" exist, and if it exist it shouldn't print in terminal, it should return true or 1
[05:56] <smw> wow, 12.10 is this month... lol
[05:57] <osteenbergen> info, try "which fuser | wc -l"
[05:57] <SAKUJ0> but we can expect it to be within 24h?
[05:57] <excalibr> i think some mirrors already have the 12.10 final iso
[05:57] <somsip> SAKUJ0: due on the 18th, so in the next 24 hours
[05:57] <somsip> !isitout | excalibr
[05:57] <Bhavesh> I always keep on getting "The proxy moz-proxy://10.0.1.21:800 is requesting a username and password. The site says: "Enter your MIS Credentials "" when ever I open codeacademy.com 's python course. And it keeps on coming again and again. What should I do?
[05:58] <info> osteenbergen: i want to try that in shell script
[05:58] <SAKUJ0> thank you, soms! bloody ms.. i am way too scared to upgrade my ubuntus :p
[05:59] <somsip> SAKUJ0: then I would recommend leaving it a few days and waiting to gauge reaction to the upgrade. That's what I do
[05:59] <SAKUJ0> haha i am the kind of guy who just starts from scratch and performs a clean install on every desktop
[06:00] <Bhavesh> Can somebody please give me a zipped version of google chrome .deb for ubuntu? I cannot download .deb directly from my college
[06:00] <excalibr> SAKUJ0: that screams ocd! :D
[06:00] <SAKUJ0> i even cannot remember the last time do-release-upgrade disappointed me :p
[06:02] <osteenbergen> info, in shell script you can just use that
[06:03] <SAKUJ0> <3 i just read thunderbird 16 is packed :p
[06:03] <osteenbergen> result=`which fuser | wc -l` or just run "which fuser" and check the status of the exit code with $!
[06:03] <SAKUJ0> that one is only a few days old i love you guys
[06:04] <info> osteenbergen: thanks it worked
[06:04] <info> :-)
[06:05] <cortexA9> Is 12.10 available ?
[06:05] <osteenbergen> info, owh typo: exit code you get with $?
[06:05] <somsip> !isitout | cortexA9
[06:05] <overclucker> info: command -v ls && echo true || echo false
[06:06] <ringtail> cortexA9: But you can still party!
[06:07] <osteenbergen>  #zabbix
[06:10] <SAKUJ0> haha, I got you somsip ! 12.10 might come out in 24-28 hours! damn you nautical time zone >:p
[06:10] <chovynz> how do i make a file in CLI that i can list a bunch of useful command in? e.g. once I finalise my FIND SPACES AND RENAME TO UNDERSCORE command, I can refer to that file again instead of asking the same question here every two or so weeks?
[06:11] <somsip> chovynz: you maybe want to make some aliases in ~/.bash_aliases
[06:11] <chovynz> nano ~useful.commands.txt or something?
[06:11] <osteenbergen> chovynz, bash_aliases is your best bet ;)
[06:11] <somsip> chovynz: See here for some examples http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374947
[06:13] <ComraDerpy> is there an early release torrent yet?
[06:14] <somsip> !isitout | ComraDerpy
[06:14] <ComraDerpy> k
[06:14] <hackers72> slt a vous tous
[06:14] <HackerII> be patient
[06:15] <hackers72> je cherche irc anonymous merci
[06:16] <somsip> !fr | hackers72
[06:16] <ComraDerpy> speaking of which, anybody use the X series radeons?
[06:17] <chovynz> how do i edit .bash-aliases?
[06:17] <somsip> chovynz: with a text editor. gedit, or vi or nano in CLI
[06:17] <somsip> chovynz:  and it's .bash_aliases
[06:17] <chovynz> thanks somsip
[06:18] <hackers72> slt a vous tous
[06:19] <hackers72> cherche irc anonymous fr merci
[06:20] <cheesytiger> hello all. I am thinking of using Ubuntu and need some questions answered. I would like to instal Ubuntu, but I don't have a  discrete graphics card (I have an Intel integrated graphics card). I really don't need a 3D desktop like Unity. Is it possible to install Ubuntu but have a 2D desktop?
[06:20] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, intel is the way to go
[06:20] <cheesytiger> if the answer is yes, what are my options
[06:20] <cheesytiger> ?
[06:20] <SAKUJ0> is your hardware up to date?
[06:20] <somsip> !fr | hackers72 vous ai déjà dit
[06:20] <SAKUJ0> i am using an intel card on my 5 year old laptop right now cheesytiger - it has all the 3d gimmicks on
[06:20] <chovynz> Can you explain to me what this will do? I think this might be it. sudo find ~/usb -name "* *" -type d | rename 's/ /_/g'
[06:20] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: thanks. i went with a basic laptop (not a high-end one)  for budget reasons
[06:21] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, ram and cpu?
[06:21] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: what do you mean by up-to-date hardware?
[06:21] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: 4 GB ram, and CPU is (how do i find out?)
[06:21] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: what command to run
[06:21] <SAKUJ0> it is enough cheesytiger - your hardware won't be too slow (even graphics)
[06:22] <SAKUJ0> it is quite the contrary, cheesytiger - if you had a dedicated nvidia graphics card you would not be able to use it anyway
[06:23] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, just put in any live cd and you can test the system from there. you can test your '3d environment' by hitting window+s and windows+w - it should do some animated stuff
[06:23] <SAKUJ0> but pretty sure you have no need to worry whatsoever
[06:23] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i see. well, it's good to know that my computer can handle the 3D environment (I believe this is called Unity, right). but i still would like to know whether I can have a 2D desktop instead, just in case?
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, it gets removed *today* with the release of the next ubuntu
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> if you are really worried, stick to 12.04.1 LTS
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> which is available now
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> it is packed with unity-2d
[06:24] <chovynz> Can someone explain this to me? sudo find ~/usb -name "* *" -type d | rename 's/ /_/g'. As far as I know it, sudos find all directories with a space in it and renames the space to underscore. What does the 's/ /_/g' mean or do?
[06:25] <SAKUJ0> but there is a reason the devs remove unity-2d
[06:25] <wachpwnski> How do you make an installer on a usb stick on the mac?
[06:25] <SAKUJ0> it sounds harsh especially since unity was in a bad place for a long time
[06:25] <SAKUJ0> if you have a laptop with an intel based onboard graphics adapter that is not older than 5 years unity should run find with '3d mode'
[06:25] <HackerII> wachpwnski-  does unetbootin work for mac ?
[06:26] <wachpwnski> HackerII:  looks like it
[06:26] <HackerII> use that
[06:26] <HackerII> when you dl it, go to properties and turn it on
[06:26] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: ok. what about Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. What are the 2D desktop options? (By the way, my CPU is Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU        P6200  @ 2.13GHz)
[06:26] <excalibr> chovynz: that cmd search for dir names that contain spaces and replace the spaces with _
[06:27] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i see your other lines to me
[06:27] <chovynz> excalibr: what does the 's/ /_/g' stand for?
[06:27] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, in the login screen you can (maybe you need to install a package for it but i think it was not necessary) the option to boot Unity 2d
[06:27] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i didn't see them initially because you did not type my nickname in them, and thus were not highlighted by my xchat program
[06:27] <SAKUJ0> the only times i have ever found myself in need of Unity 2D was when attaching a 2nd monitor to my 5 year old laptop
[06:28] <ruscour> is there any official release time or anything?
[06:28] <excalibr> chovynz: substitute all occurences of space with _
[06:28] <somsip> ruscour: just 'today', as in the 18th
[06:28] <SAKUJ0> ruscour, the only thing official is that it will be here within 27 hours and 30 minutes
[06:28] <SAKUJ0> ruscour, that however is only the promise
[06:29] <chovynz> excalibr: what does the g do?
[06:29] <ruscour> well my current 12.04 install is pretty horrifically messed up so I might as well do a clean install, meaning I might as well just wait for 12.10
[06:29] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i do plan on using another monitor with my laptop
[06:30] <excalibr> g=global..apply to all occurrences
[06:30] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, things could get worse there but pretty sure it will be ok
[06:31] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i don't follow. What things could get worse? Worse than what?
[06:31] <SAKUJ0> meaning you might have to disable '3d' for that
[06:32] <SAKUJ0> if you depend on it i would stick to 12.04.1 LTS - and then see if you have to fall back to unity-2d
[06:33] <SAKUJ0> also it was a bit rough before, meaning that 3d only worked on 1 screen or other issues on my hardware
[06:33] <SAKUJ0> but you should be able to test it with the live cd
[06:33] <SAKUJ0> *on 1 screen at the same time
[06:35] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0:  sorry, i don't understand your last line (On 1 screen at a time).
[06:35] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i want to test out a multimonitor setup. What do you mean by "on 1 screen at a time"?
[06:37] <chovynz> how do i find the number of files that FIND finds?
[06:37] <chovynz> how do i count the number of files that FIND finds?
[06:37] <somsip> chovynz: find {pattern} | wc -l
[06:39] <osteenbergen> chovynz, what are you building?
[06:39] <kieppie> ?release
[06:39] <kieppie> !release
[06:39] <chovynz> osteenbergen: a monument to my insanity
[06:40] <kieppie> ETA on 12.10 release? already 19:40 here in NZ
[06:40] <somsip> !isitout | kieppie
[06:40] <kieppie> somsip cheers
[06:40] <jagginess> find -type f |wc -l
[06:41] <osteenbergen> chovynz, insanity can be done in a few characters: ":(){ :|: & };:" (Do not try at home warning)
[06:44] <chovynz> nano .bash_aliases doesnt seem ti work. what am i missing?
[06:44] <chovynz> *to. excuse typos. sleeping baby on arm
[06:44] <somsip> chovynz: after addnig then, do 'source ~/.bash_aliases'
[06:44] <lestus> @osteenbergen do i have to be insane to get it?
[06:45] <osteenbergen> lestus, thats a fork bomb ;) brings your pc to a halt by spawning processes of itself
[06:45] <alien2050> is there a way to exit the live cd without ejecting the cd drive?
[06:45] <somsip> !danger | osteenbergen
[06:46] <osteenbergen> somsip, i already had a do not try at home warning ;)
[06:46] <chovynz> somsip: -bash: alias: list: not found
[06:46] <somsip> osteenbergen: don't post it at all please
[06:46] <lestus> wow epic, and how do i reply to you in highlight?
[06:46] <Kartagis> alien2050: no
[06:46] <osteenbergen> sorry will do :)
[06:46] <somsip> chovynz: post your .bash_aliases in pastebin
[06:48] <wachpwnski> you can fork processes of self with that command osteenbergen?
[06:48] <wachpwnski> PM me an explanation of the syntax.
[06:49] <osteenbergen> wachpwnski, just google it ;)
[06:49] <jcrza> fork bomb eh
[06:49] <jcrza> I'm really tempted to run it
[06:49] <chovynz> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286445/ It had a space in it, and I forgot that spaces are forbidden in commands. I fixed that, now, nothing happens, no error and no message.
[06:49] <Kartagis> what are pros and cons of lvm over extx/reiserfs?
[06:49] <jcrza> I've always heard of it
[06:49] <lestus> trololololo
[06:49] <osteenbergen> there is an exelent wikipedia article on it
[06:49] <jcrza> ... how quickly would it anhialate my computer?
[06:49] <lestus> instantly
[06:49] <jcrza> ...
[06:49] <lestus> in human eyes
[06:49] <jcrza> I just put it in terminal?
[06:50] <lestus> or milliseconds
[06:50] <jcrza> I really.. can't resist
[06:50] <lestus> LOL
[06:50] <osteenbergen> chovynz, remove the = after the echo
[06:50] <somsip> chovynz: syntax error, try alias hello='echo hello world'
[06:50] <overclucker> Kartagis: you mean lvm vs. primary and extended partitions?
[06:50] <somsip> chovynz: syntax error, try alias listspaces='echo hello world'
[06:51] <Kartagis> overclucker: lvm over filesystems
[06:51] <chovynz> nothing still. im going to man echo
[06:52] <osteenbergen> chovynz, works for me: alias test='echo "Hello World!"'
[06:52] <wachpwnski> That is actually pretty funny.
[06:52] <somsip> chovynz: in a terminal type "alias test='echo hello world'"
[06:52] <somsip> chovynz: then type "test" and it will run the echo
[06:52] <jcrza> wow, you weren't kidding
[06:53] <dman7> My audio jack does not work in Ubuntu. I have dual boot and tested it in Windows; works perfectly. The speakers play with no problem; it's the audio jack. Any pointers?
[06:53] <jcrza> that ... worked really well
[06:53] <overclucker> Kartagis: I'm not exactly sure what you mean. lvm volumes still need a filesystem.
[06:53] <jcrza> Took like 5 seconds and my mouse stopped moving.
[06:53] <jcrza> that's so cool.
[06:53] <actionParsnip> dman7: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[06:53] <somsip> osteenbergen: now do you see?
[06:53] <Kartagis> overclucker: hmm, what are pros and cons of lvm volumes then?
[06:54] <osteenbergen> somsip, my humble apologies
[06:55]  * chovynz is puzzled, it's doing something but what I dont know. I have both of yours in there with separate lines and separate words to test each type, and it's still no echoing
[06:55] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: looks interesting: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/whatisvolman.html
[06:55] <jcrza> Is there a windows equivalent to that fork bomb code?
[06:55] <dman7> actionParsnip: neat tool. Info located here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d693cc0110cd581c358f0338f0d48efda1574a99
[06:55] <actionParsnip> jcrza: probably, ask in ##windows
[06:55] <chovynz> ok, now it is working.
[06:55] <dman7> What should I be looking for?
[06:56] <actionParsnip> dman7: thanks, let me search
[06:56] <chovynz> where is aliases stored? I think im putting them in the incorrect file
[06:56] <actionParsnip> dman7: try:   echo "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[06:56] <actionParsnip> dman7: reboot to test
[06:57] <overclucker> Kartagis: the biggest pro is that volume groups can have multiple physical volumes, and so span multiple disks.
[06:57] <somsip> chovynz: you can put them anywhere but ~/.bash_aliases is run automatically when you login so they're ready for use
[06:59] <actionParsnip> dman7: if it's no good I have an alternative line you can use, but we'll see if that flys
[06:59] <overclucker> Kartagis: the biggest con is that if you use any otehr bootloader than grub2, you cant boot off lvm, but require a separate boot partition.
[07:00] <alien2050> it is possible to do it I found it
[07:00] <Kartagis> thanks overclucker
[07:01] <chovynz> somsip where does alias command from terminal get stored?
[07:01] <somsip> chovynz: not sure. It probably has scope in that terminal session and that's all
[07:01] <chovynz> somsip: I'm ssh'ed to my home server
[07:02] <somsip> chovynz: same answer applies
[07:02] <chovynz> could it be printing the echos on my server monitor instead of my ssh window?
[07:02] <somsip> chovynz: no
[07:02] <TJ-> chovynz: Add the aliases to "~/.bash_aliases" then do ". ~/bash_aliases"
[07:03] <TJ-> chovynz: the dot "." command in bash is the same as "source" which reads a file into the bash interpreter. You could also do "source ~/.bash_aliases"
[07:04] <somsip> TJ-: for now he can't get any aliases working at all, even: somsip> chovynz: in a terminal type "alias test='echo hello world'"
[07:04] <chovynz> somsip: that one worked
[07:04] <somsip> chovynz: I stand corrected
[07:04] <chovynz> somsip: but its the exact same syntax that is in the .bash_aliases file I created.
[07:05] <chovynz> somsip: and when I run the other commands, it recognises the command but doesnt echo
[07:05] <somsip> chovynz: the one you posted was not the same. that had 'echo='Hello world' in it
[07:05] <chovynz> somsip: I made the syntax the same as yours
[07:05] <somsip> chovynz: can you repast it?
[07:05] <chovynz> will do
[07:06] <actionParsnip> chovynz: put it in ~/.bashrc   there are other aliases defines there too
[07:06] <Eagleman> Where do i see which app uses fe80::2c96:5de2:12b5:c18b ?
[07:07] <Eagleman> The IPV6 apipa address
[07:07] <wachpwnski> Is there a way to explicitly declare what device I want to install grub on?
[07:07] <actionParsnip> chovynz: to apply the new change, run:   source ~/.bashrc
[07:07] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: yes, use:  sudo grub-install /dev/whateveryouwant
[07:07] <dman7> actionParsnip: just rebooted; that did not work.
[07:08] <actionParsnip> dman7: ok, run:   gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    change the last line's model to:  model=generic    instead of:  model=thinkpad     save the new file and reboot
[07:11] <chovynz> somsip: TJ- actionParsnip : thanks for the helps. I'm a doofus. I forgot to source the ~/.bash_aliases
[07:11] <actionParsnip> chovynz: yes ;) or you can close the terminal and reopen it, same deal
[07:11] <actionParsnip> chovynz: makes the file be reread :)
[07:13] <chovynz> somsip: FYI http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286472/ test3 is yours renamed.
[07:13] <Eagleman> Where do i see which app uses fe80::2c96:5de2:12b5:c18b ?
[07:13] <somsip> chovynz: k - so the basics are working now, so you need to just get some helpful aliases in there
[07:13] <chovynz> somsip: yeah thanks :)
[07:15] <chovynz> but still, where does the alias command store things? It seems to be in a different file
[07:16] <somsip> chovynz: no idea. It works. Good enough for me
[07:16] <dman7> actionParsnip: awesome, it worked! Thanks.
[07:17] <dman7> What's the reasoning behind setting model=generic, btw?
[07:17] <scroduck> hello, i fixed nvidio zotac geforce 210 in my computer, but its not working on ubuntu 11.04. how do i make the graphics card work?
[07:17] <Odd-rationale> chovynz: I believe aliases are stored within the bash environment
[07:17] <actionParsnip> dman7: the default is model=generic   some sound chips need to be told to load the module differently
[07:18] <actionParsnip> scroduck: why bother. Natty is dead in less than 2 weeks. I don't suggest you waste any time on Natty
[07:19] <actionParsnip> dman7: the line you added simply tells the OS to use that option by default when it's loaded. The other .conf files in the same folder give options for other modules and a few other things too
[07:19] <dman7> hmm, looking through the alsa-project url I sent you earlier, it appears that I didn't have that set to anything.
[07:19] <Eagleman> Where do i see which app uses fe80::2c96:5de2:12b5:c18b ?
[07:19] <dman7> ok that makes sense. Thanks again, actionParsnip!
[07:19] <actionParsnip> dman7: well, nothing more than default, which is attempt to auto detect, which wasn't working, so you told it what to use :)
[07:20] <dman7> yeah
[07:20] <linelevel> Empty room?
[07:21] <actionParsnip> linelevel: not quite
[07:21] <actionParsnip> Eagleman: netstat -a     maybe
[07:24] <arvindh> \passwd @Admin123
[07:24] <Adie> :/
[07:24] <actionParsnip> Adie: time for a pass change? ;)
[07:24] <jakeR333> how to disable  IEEE 802.3 SNAP in ubuntu ?
[07:24] <jakeR333> in windows it's easy
[07:24] <jakeR333> TCP/IP feature
[07:25] <jakeR333> ipv4 i think
[07:25] <linelevel> I have an external 1.5GB hdd with a single ext4 partition. Usually Ubuntu detects and automounts it. Starting today, I can see it in Disk Utility, but it doesn't mount. I ran an extensive scan on it in Disk Utility, and it came back as "Disk has a few bad sectors" (there are 10 bad sectors), and 2 warnings (reallocated sector count, airflow temperature), but it says it "passed" the self-assessment.
[07:26] <linelevel> Can anyone help me by suggesting how to troubleshoot this issue further?
[07:26] <jcrza> your disk is dying
[07:26] <jcrza> make your time
[07:26] <Eagleman> actionParsnip  http://pastebin.com/cfBFk2xK
[07:27] <actionParsnip> linelevel: when you last unplugged it, did you safely remove it, or just yank it out?
[07:27] <jcrza> You could try getting a HD just like it and swapping out the board, I've done it before, it works sometimes
[07:27] <linelevel> If it were already dead, why would it pass the self assessment?
[07:27] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I only yank without ejecting if it's asleep (not spinning).
[07:27] <scroduck> SO
[07:28] <scroduck> actionParsnip: my computer crashed
[07:28] <jcrza> I said dying, not dead
[07:28] <scroduck> i cannot upgrade right now
[07:28] <scroduck> now is there any way to do something :(
[07:28] <jcrza> Honestly it could be nothing, maybe some shit just happened and you lost some of your re-allocatable sectors
[07:28] <linelevel> jcrza: Well if it's not dead, shouldn't there be a way I can use it to access my data?
[07:28] <jcrza> It could be the HD starting to fail, so I'd be wary
[07:28] <linelevel> jcrza: The problem is that it doesn't mount.
[07:28] <actionParsnip> linelevel: it still needs unmounting properly
[07:28] <jcrza> I've had disks have sectors go bad and still work for a while
[07:29] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I have restarted my computer since then.
[07:29] <jcrza> and I've had them fail the next day, I'd follow whoevers advice will get you mountable again and abandon that disk
[07:29] <actionParsnip> linelevel: caaches ned syncing and the OS needs to forget the device before it can be physically removed
[07:30] <actionParsnip> linelevel: If you have bad sectors then the device is dying, probably due to not being unmouted correctly or other things
[07:30] <actionParsnip> linelevel: it's only 1.5Gb so no huge loss really (didn't know they made 1.5Gb drive that span)
[07:31] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I have never pulled out the USB cable without ejecting first unless the disk wasn't spinning.
[07:31] <linelevel> actionParsnip: regardless of the size, I do have some data on it which has not been recently backed up, so if there's anything I can do to get this thing mounted I would like to try it.
[07:31] <actionParsnip> linelevel: regardless of it spinning, it still needs to be safetly ejected
[07:32] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Okay, I did not realize that.
[07:33] <actionParsnip> linelevel: you could try foremost on the mounted partition. You will need enough space to hold all the space on the device as ALL files will be recovered, you can then sift through and find what you need
[07:34] <linelevel> actionParsnip: but how do I mount the partition?
[07:34] <actionParsnip> linelevel: with foremost you don't want the partition mounted
[07:34] <actionParsnip> linelevel: or you can attempt to manually mount it
[07:34] <linelevel> oh okay
[07:35] <linelevel> you said "try foremost on the mounted partition"
[07:35] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sorry, unmounted. my bad
[07:35] <linelevel> gotcha
[07:35] <actionParsnip> linelevel: have you attempted to manually mount?
[07:38] <brightsparks> Hi - could someone tell how to deal with this? W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://repository.spotify.com/ stable/non-free i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:38] <yayLINUX> hey at what time will ubuntu 12.10 released?
[07:38] <yayLINUX> release *
[07:39] <llutz> brightsparks: "grep -r spotify /etc/apt/*"   remove one of the duplicate entries
[07:40] <alakoo> yayLINUX: well the release cycle is 6 months you can count from that
[07:40] <Kartagis> can I get the opensource nvidia drivers without the card actually installed?,
[07:41] <Kartagis> yayLINUX: at the end of this month
[07:41] <yayLINUX> I saw that it was at october 18
[07:41] <alakoo> oh wait, it's release date already :)
[07:41] <yayLINUX> yeah -.-
[07:42] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: they are in a default install
[07:42] <yayLINUX> I mean at what time today
[07:42] <alakoo> yeah dunno
[07:42] <Odd-rationale> yayLINUX: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[07:43] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: they are xserver-xorg-video-nouveau which is in a default install and gives the open source Nvidia driver
[07:43] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: install of what? I don't remember installing anything after I installed the card. besides, it always showed up in third party drivers
[07:43] <Kartagis> thanks actionParsnip
[07:44] <Elesa> Hi, I used dist-upgrade and after the packages were downloaded, I accidentally aborted in the part where it asks you if you want to install new packages. How can I install them without downloading them again?
[07:44] <wachpwnski> What would prevent me from installing grub bootloader on a disk?
[07:44] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: its in a default install, so you don't manually install anything
[07:44] <llutz> Elesa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    it won't download again
[07:45] <Elesa> I'm using apt-fast
[07:45] <brightsparks> <llutz:
[07:45] <Elesa> It tried to download again. =/
[07:45] <actionParsnip> Elesa: gotta love apt-fast :)
[07:45] <brightsparks> llutz: Thanks
[07:45] <actionParsnip> Elesa: try:    sudo apt-get -f install
[07:46] <Elesa> It says I have 453 non updated packages, sheesh
[07:46] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: it seems I don't have that package
[07:46] <llutz> !find apt-fast
[07:47] <actionParsnip> llutz: its from a 3rd party source. It's axel + apt-get
[07:47] <Elesa> I'm in Linux Mint 13 but I'd rather ask here since this has to do with apt-get/fast, not Ubuntu precisely
[07:47] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: should I install it after I install the card?
[07:47] <Elesa> And I like it here.
[07:47] <llutz> actionParsnip: ok, i never heard that before... why don't people just use systemtools which work...
[07:47] <Elesa> I guess I have to download again.. -_-
[07:48] <actionParsnip> llutz: apt-fast downloads from multiple sources, apt-fast uses axel and downloads from 4 (by default)
[07:48] <llutz> Elesa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    if the packages are downloaded already, they will be used
[07:48] <Elesa> Nope, it's downloading them again. And I checked that they had been downloaded. D:
[07:48] <llutz> or does "apt-fast axel" store them somewhere out of any standard location?
[07:49] <Elesa> I guess I'll just use regular apt-get
[07:49] <Elesa> Thanks!
[07:49] <Elesa> oh
[07:50] <fredriksk> at what time does 12.10 get released?
[07:50] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: re-checked, and the package is there, but the driver is not being picked up. what do you suggest?
[07:51] <Kartagis> fredriksk: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[07:51] <actionParsnip> llutz: I believe its in the same place, let me check
[07:52] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I did not try to manually mount yet, but GParted says: "Warning: Unable to detect file system! Possible reasons are: -The file system is damaged -The file system is unknown to GParted -There is no file system available (unformatted)".
[07:52] <zutgorak> morning
[07:52] <Elesa> Seems like it worked out of nowhere. :D
[07:52] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Is there anything I can do to try to recover my ext4 partition on this drive?
[07:52] <Elesa> It was trying to download some other stuff? Thanks again!
[07:53] <actionParsnip> linelevel: try the manual mount
[07:53] <llutz> Elesa: thats how apt is supposed to work
[07:53] <zutgorak> question: is there a way to create an alias that creates a user with the nologin shell, but still creates an alias?
[07:53] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[07:53] <zutgorak> err.. still creates a home dir
[07:53] <actionParsnip> llutz: yeah, same place as apt-get
[07:54] <fredriksk> Kartagis, thanks!
[07:54] <Kartagis> np
[07:54] <zutgorak> tried alias webuser='useradd -s /sbin/nologin' but that seems to create the user, but not dragging anything from /etc/skel or create a home dir
[07:55] <llutz> actionParsnip: anything else would have disqualified the tool forever ;)
[07:55] <Kartagis> zutgorak: add a -m, that will create $HOME
[07:55] <zutgorak> so alias webuser='useradd -s -m /sbin/nologin' ?
[07:56] <Kartagis> zutgorak: wait a minute, why do you want to create a $HOME for a nologin user?
[07:56] <wachpwnski> I have two network cards, how do I configure those in /etc/networking/interfaces?
[07:56] <Kartagis> oh, FTP only?
[07:56] <zutgorak> yes
[07:56] <actionParsnip> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286515/
[07:56] <zutgorak> im using usermod for apache
[07:57] <llutz> wachpwnski: read "man 5 interfaces"
[07:57] <Kartagis> zutgorak: and yes, the snytax is correct
[07:57] <Kartagis> man useradd for additional information
[07:57] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[07:57] <Kartagis> !interface
[07:58] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: !nvidia suggests that I do a nvidia-xconfig. does it apply in any case?
[07:58] <chovynz> hwo can i make this work better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286520/
[07:58] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: it can be needed
[07:59] <stevecam> when im copying a large file over 100mb to usb, my progress bar doesnt update properly, it moves about 80% then stays there for about 5 minutes, is this a common problem?
[07:59] <Kartagis> brb then
[08:00] <actionParsnip> stevecam: what apps have you used to copy the file with?
[08:01] <chovynz> actionParsnip: why am I getting     -bash: alias: /_/g: not found    from this?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286520/ . Rather, I know why it's exiting the command - because it reaches another ' and thinks it is ending the alias. So how can I re-write the alias to do the terminal command properly?
[08:02] <actionParsnip> chovynz: my bashfu isn't great. I'd ask in #bash as well
[08:03] <stevecam> actionParsnip, nautilus
[08:03] <actionParsnip> stevecam: any others?
[08:03] <EdwardIII> hey
[08:04] <actionParsnip> stevecam: install another, like pcmanfm  and try that, see if the same occurs
[08:04] <EdwardIII> just connected up to a fresh ubuntu install over ssh. created a new user 'edward', copied the contents of /etc/skel/ into $HOME, but odd things aren't working like tab completion
[08:04] <stevecam> actionParsnip, no, haven't really thought of anything else to use, not really an issue as it seems to just not be updating the progress bar properly n othing else but i would like to get it working normally again
[08:07] <chovynz> actionParsnip: #bash answered. It is because I cannot have ' inside '. They recommended " inside ' instead
[08:07] <actionParsnip> stevecam: you could try it, if its not causing any issues then I'd just let it be
[08:07] <Fernest> If I want to install Boost (C++ libraries) on Ubuntu with Synaptic, how do I do that? (There are like 200 packages which are called something-boost-something and none of them seems to be the main one)
[08:07] <actionParsnip> chovynz: cool
[08:09] <stevecam> actionParsnip, just tried it in midnight commander, the progress bar reaches 100% and it just stays there
[08:09] <actionParsnip> Fernest: maybe:  libboost1.49-dev - Boost C++ Libraries development files
[08:09] <actionParsnip> Fernest: I'm on Quantal, so your package may be slightly different
[08:10] <Fernest> actionParship: is "dev" meant like "SDK" or "development status" (=beta)
[08:11] <actionParsnip> Fernest: its the development files and headers to make the package work / integrate with the library, not beta
[08:11] <actionParsnip> Fernest: all the lib packages have -dev packages so that compilation of apps that use those libds can happen
[08:12] <Fernest> ah. ok
[08:12] <the_dark_knight> i have one question related to shell
[08:12] <Josh-> Hello
[08:12] <blazemore> I have one answer, the_dark_knight if you go ahead and ask it
[08:12] <the_dark_knight> when i run https://oftcpython.privatepaste.com/b3a004e393
[08:12] <Fernest> If I mark this for installation, Synaptic wants to uninstall like 20 packages (which have something to do with boost). Should I just continue or is it risky and can lead to errors?
[08:13] <actionParsnip> Fernest: if they are needed then you'll need to pull them in
[08:13] <the_dark_knight> even if that file exists in the script it says 'file doesn't exists' why?
[08:13] <Josh-> Why ubuntu 12.04 treats left and right super key different ?
[08:13] <the_dark_knight> see my script here https://oftcpython.privatepaste.com/b3a004e393
[08:13] <Fernest> actionParship: Is there a way to find out if something needs them?
[08:13] <actionParsnip> Josh-: because they are different keys
[08:14] <Josh-> If I press any shortcut using Right Super key, then only it works
[08:14] <blazemore> the_dark_knight: try it without the square brackets
[08:14] <Josh-> actionParsnip, How to make one act exactly like other?
[08:14] <blazemore> Also the_dark_knight try it without the quotes around $nameBkpLzma
[08:14] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Tried `mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media/my_mount_point`. Got back "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error\ In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so"
[08:15] <actionParsnip> josh-: http://thetechjournal.com/how-to/tutorial-how-to-make-certain-keyboard-keys-act-like-other-keys.xhtml
[08:15] <the_dark_knight> blazemore: still errors '-e: command not found' and then 'file not found'
[08:16] <blazemore> the_dark_knight: sorry - try *with* the square brackets, but *without* the quotes
[08:16] <actionParsnip> Josh-: that's windows based, gimme a sec
[08:17] <the_dark_knight> blazemore: gives 'file doesn't exist' again
[08:17] <the_dark_knight> blazemore: i mean it works on prompt
[08:17] <llutz> the_dark_knight: does it work if you replace ~ by the full path?
[08:17] <the_dark_knight> lemme check
[08:18] <susebh> can't ping or ssh to PCs using name, but dns-nameserver is set to my router's IP
[08:18] <actionParsnip> Josh-: may help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KEYMAP
[08:18] <the_dark_knight> llutz: blazemore it works if i remove ~
[08:19] <the_dark_knight> don't know why but should work with ~ too.
[08:19] <llutz> the_dark_knight: "remove ~"? ~ is a shortcut for $HOME or /home/$USER
[08:19] <actionParsnip> linelevel: you can fsck the partition using a different superblock, there are a few in the partition
[08:19] <llutz> (except for root)
[08:20] <linelevel> actionParsnip: That's over my head.
[08:20] <actionParsnip> linelevel: so is websearching?
[08:21] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sudo e2fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/sdb1
[08:21] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Good call, sorry.
[08:21] <llutz> the_dark_knight: what is the real location of that file, is it /backup/foo   or /home/.../backup/foo?
[08:21] <linelevel> I'll read google.
[08:21] <actionParsnip> linelevel: I gave the command for you
[08:21] <nootje> hoi
[08:22] <the_dark_knight> llutz: it is /home/foo/backup/bkp.sql.lzma
[08:22] <ac> Hello everyone
[08:22] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I ran your command, it says: http://dpaste.org/OAVFd/
[08:22] <the_dark_knight> llutz: so should i avoid using ~ and use /home/foo everywhere or just with shell
[08:23] <nootje> how late ubuntu 12.10
[08:23] <ohzoi> hello, how can i upgrade to 12.10?
[08:23] <llutz> the_dark_knight: to be on the safe side, use full pathes
[08:23] <nootje> how late come ubuntu 12.10
[08:23] <Josh-> actionParsnip, hehe, linking arch's website in ubuntu huh
[08:23] <the_dark_knight> llutz: ok. thanks. but what was it taking when i used ~
[08:23] <Josh-> 11.04 was never LTS right?
[08:23] <the_dark_knight> llutz: is there any way I can know what my shell script mean by ~
[08:24] <nootje> how late come ubuntu 12.10
[08:24] <Tropicana> hmmm, why does my wireless network stop working when i pull out my cable?
[08:24] <gabkdlly> the_dark_knight, echo ~
[08:24] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sudo e2fsck -f -b 32768 /dev/sdb1
[08:25] <actionParsnip> Josh-: no, natty is not LTS
[08:25] <Tropicana> when the cable is in it find the wireless and connect to it
[08:25] <Josh-> I wonder why
[08:25] <actionParsnip> Josh-: not all releases are LTS
[08:25] <the_dark_knight> gabkdlly: echo ~ gives the same /home/foo not /home/foo/ is it the problem
[08:25] <Josh-> Yea well, but after 10.04 directly 12.04 :O
[08:25] <actionParsnip> Josh-: 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 are LTS, the intermediate releases are not
[08:25] <Josh-> huge gap
[08:25] <linelevel> actionParsnip: It says it's fixing it now.
[08:25] <SixThousandOwls> It would take a lot more effort and resources(programmers) to provide LTS for all releases.
[08:26] <actionParsnip> linelevel: there are superblocks all around the partition, its that important :)
[08:26] <SixThousandOwls> The mini-releases are kind of like times of experimentation. Then the good elements of those mini-updates are often added to the next LTS.
[08:26] <llutz> the_dark_knight: ~ usually will be expanded to the home-dir as defined in /etc/passwd. did you run that from cron or as a different user?
[08:26] <cheshair> Hi! I am using Ubuntu backup software. I do want to restore a single file and decided to use this command: http://dpaste.com/815022/
[08:26] <susebh> can't ping or ssh to PCs using name, but dns-nameserver is set to my router's IP
[08:26] <linelevel> actionParsnip:  I will need to read about what it is doing. I don't understand what superblocks are yet.
[08:26] <Josh-> SixThousandOwls, We already have Six Thousand Owls >_>
[08:26] <nootje> how late come ubuntu 12.10
[08:26] <actionParsnip> susebh: can you ping it via IP?
[08:26] <the_dark_knight> llutz: same user foo. not from cron
[08:26] <actionParsnip> nootje: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal things
[08:27] <nootje> oke
[08:27] <Josh-> He has been asking same thing for quite a long time
[08:27] <Josh-> >_>
[08:27] <gabkdlly> the_dark_knight, well, if you need /home/foo/ , then you can do :  echo ~/
[08:27] <cheshair> the point is that i am asked a gpg passphrase although i didn't set one at the time of backup, any ideas?
[08:27] <karneisada> I d/led a daily build a few days ago and it was already 12.10
[08:27] <karneisada> didn't realize it at the time
[08:28] <llutz> the_dark_knight: sorry, i don't know why it wasn't expanded then.
[08:28] <actionParsnip> karneisada: well, yeah. Quantal is out soon :)
[08:28] <linelevel> actionParsnip: This seems like it's going to take a long time, so I'll see what happens. Thanks for the help so far.
[08:29] <susebh> actionParsnip: yup
[08:29] <actionParsnip> susebh: is the ssh's server name and IP in the DHCP clients table in the router?
[08:29] <Josh-> actionParsnip, I had file manager as shortcut for Super+E
[08:29] <karneisada> i'm using lubuntu, though
[08:29] <Josh-> But, It only works when I press Right Super + E
[08:29] <Josh-> Left Super + E dosn't work same
[08:29] <Josh-> :3
[08:29] <karneisada> I might try out unity
[08:30] <karneisada> it's been a while
[08:30] <Josh-> Nah, I am liking cinnamon :3
[08:30] <actionParsnip> Josh-: if you run:  xev      and press both keys, you'll see they make different keycodes
[08:30] <susebh> actionParsnip: DHCP is disabled into the router
[08:31] <the_dark_knight> llutz: thanks
[08:31] <actionParsnip> susebh: then add an entry for it in /etc/hosts and itwill work
[08:31] <llutz> susebh: how should the router know the hostnames then?
[08:31] <Josh-> actionParsnip, So is there anyway for both to perform same task?
[08:32] <Josh-> or one map to another?
[08:32] <actionParsnip> Josh-: you can map the other to make the same code
[08:32] <susebh> llutz: please, explain me, I'm really n00b in networking
[08:33] <llutz> susebh: if you don't use dhcp on the router, the router cannot know the static hostnames of those clients
[08:33] <actionParsnip> susebh: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/hosts     and you can add an entry there to make the name resolve to an IP locally
[08:33] <susebh> llutz: so... No DHCP service, no name resolving: am I right?
[08:33] <Fernest> isn't 12.10 out today?
[08:34] <susebh> actionParsnip: ty
[08:34] <actionParsnip> susebh: np :)
[08:34] <gabkdlly> the_dark_knight, I think what was throwing you off might have been the difference in behavior between '~/' and "~/"; the second one gets expanded, the first one does not
[08:34] <actionParsnip> Fernest: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <minas> hi, has 12.10 become available yet?
[08:35] <the_dark_knight> gabkdlly: ok. ill try that one. 1 sec
[08:35] <actionParsnip> minas: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:36] <minas> ok, thanks
[08:36] <cheshair> hi, do you know a specific place where i can ask of ubuntu backup and duplicity?
[08:36] <susebh> llutz: what if I bring an old PC and I turn it into a DNS server? It will resolve names in my LAN even if all PCs are static?
[08:36] <actionParsnip> cheshair: here is a good start
[08:36] <cheshair> actionParsnip: nice, thanks
[08:37] <the_dark_knight> gabkdlly: it is not working
[08:38] <cheshair> hi, i am trying to restore a single file from my ubuntu backup. I am using a duplicity command from cli: http://dpaste.com/815022/ The problem is, I am asked a passphrase even though I didn't set one! :-(
[08:40] <gabkdlly> cheshair, did you try just hitting enter when you are asked for the passphrase ?
[08:40] <cheshair> gabkdlly: yep, and I am told: "Cannot use empty passphrase with symmetric encryption!  Please try again."
[08:40] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[08:41] <Gabriel_SOE> Hello All
[08:41] <chovynz> how and where do I make functions?
[08:41] <cheshair> gabkdlly: if I enter a fake passphrase, whatever it is, I succeed in getting the file. The point is this is so obscure
[08:42] <cheshair> gabkdlly: I am afraid of giving all my important data to a software I don't understand
[08:42] <Gabriel_SOE> I was under the impression that 12.10 is out today.
[08:42] <Gabriel_SOE> is it?
[08:42] <actionParsnip> Gabriel_SOE: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:43] <Gabriel_SOE> K
[08:43] <blazemore> Gabriel_SOE: It'll be announced all over the place, check the ubuntu releases mailing list, and blogs like OMG, webupd8 and r/linux
[08:43] <somsip> Gabriel_SOE: or us !isitout
[08:43] <gabkdlly> cheshair, oh, that is kind of weird behavior. It has been a long while since I used duplicity. It is a great tool, but requires some reading.
[08:43] <somsip> !isitout | Gabriel_SOE
[08:43] <actionParsnip> !party | Gabriel_SOE
[08:44] <adoniscik> how can you set arbitrary file associations; the application I want is not listed?
[08:44] <Gabriel_SOE> Thanks for the info m8
[08:44] <cheshair> gabkdlly: oh I see. I'll read docs again then and then try to open a question to the duplicity or deja-dup developers
[08:45] <cheshair> gabkdlly: thanks
[08:46] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: the only way I can think is to make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications   and it will be listed
[08:47] <cheshair> gabkdlly: ah! insight! I managed to solved my problem! this is the right command to use! http://dpaste.com/815029/ I have to add the --no-encription option since I didn't use encription when creating the backup first
[08:47] <linelevel> actionParsnip: Quick question: Do you know if there is any way to say "fix all" or something? It's asking me "Free blocks count wrong for group #xxxx ... Fix<y>?"  But it's asking that for EVERY SINGLE group.
[08:47] <cheshair> gabkdlly: thank you so much, cheers
[08:48] <gabkdlly> cheshair, awesome
[08:48] <actionParsnip> linelevel: I suggest you read:  man e2fsck
[08:50] <adoniscik> thanks, action, I'll give it a try
[08:51] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: you can copy one from ~/.config/autostart   they are simpler, its the only way I can really think to make it work. Others may have a sleeker solution
[08:52] <adoniscik> should I place it in .config/autostart?
[08:52] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: shove it in /usr/share/applications and it will also appear in dash :)
[08:53] <Josh-> So, for one of my C++ projects I need -Xrandr
[08:53] <Josh-> It seems its not present in Ubuntu
[08:54] <Josh-> Anybody knows How to install it?
[08:54] <actionParsnip> Josh-: xrandr is in a default install
[08:54] <Josh-> It was there from beginning when I was using Ubuntu for wubi
[08:54] <Josh-> actionParsnip, It seems G++ can't find it
[08:54] <actionParsnip> Josh-: how are you calling it?
[08:54] <Josh-> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXrandr
[08:55] <mkvubuntu> Hi everybody
[08:55] <Josh-> actionParsnip, -Xrandr
[08:55] <Josh-> err
[08:55] <Josh-> -lXrandr
[08:55] <mkvubuntu> I would render my videos (mkv 1080p and 720p) fluent on ubuntu 12.04 pc is Asrock 330, could u help me?
[08:56] <actionParsnip> Josh-: shouldn't it all be lower case?
[08:56] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: do you mean display the video?
[08:56] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: how can I verify that I am now using nvidia open source drivers?
[08:57] <mkvubuntu> yes actionParnsip, now the videos are like step  by step not fluent
[08:57] <Josh-> actionParsnip, No?
[08:57] <Josh-> actionParsnip, It was working as is on Ubuntu 12.04 installed on Wubi
[08:57] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: sudo lshw -C display     driver=nouveau   means you are using the open source driver.  driver=nvidia    means you are using the proprietary driver
[08:57] <Josh-> it seems to not working on a proper installation of Ubuntu 12.04
[08:58] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[08:58] <actionParsnip> Josh-: the installs areidentical. With Wubi you use a file stored in NTFS which is loop mounted at boot. The OS and hardware access is identical in every way
[08:58] <scoundrel> hi, I'm in the UK and was wondering when 12.10 was available for download
[08:58] <Josh-> actionParsnip, Exactly
[08:58] <actionParsnip> scoundrel: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:58] <gordonjcp> !isitoutyet
[08:59] <scoundrel> oh ok, sorry about that didnt know, thanks
[08:59] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks
[08:59] <mkvubuntu> yes ok
[08:59] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
[08:59] <scoundrel> #join #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <Kartagis> :S
[09:00] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: you have theproprietary driver then
[09:00] <Josh-> actionParsnip, Can't find -lxrandr -lXrandr
[09:00] <mkvubuntu> PCI (sysfs)
[09:00] <Josh-> any of those :p
[09:00] <Josh-> :[
[09:01] <iceroot> Josh-: its xrandr
[09:01] <Josh-> iceroot, yes?
[09:01] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: how can I replace it with the open source driver? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau says it's the latest version
[09:01] <Josh-> iceroot, In LIBS of makefile you should be writing, -lxrandr
[09:01] <Josh-> right?
[09:02] <mkvubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286572/
[09:02] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: you could uninstall the nvidiadriver and the nouveau will beused
[09:02] <susebh> in /etc/resolv.conf tells me not to edit this file by hand... What files should I modify to change the value of "search" variable?
[09:03] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:04] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: what's the package name to uninstall?
[09:04] <belgianguy> hmm is it normal that 12.10 isn't popping up in my Update panel yet?
[09:04] <actionParsnip> susebh: you can add your own nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[09:04] <DJones> belgianguy: Its not released yet
[09:05] <TJ-> susebh: /etc/resolv.conf is generated by scripts under /etc/resolconf/. The "search" entry is created by /etc/resolvconf/update.d/libc
[09:05] <Kartagis> I'm removing nvidia-current and nvidia-common
[09:05] <belgianguy> DJones: oh, I thought it was released, as I just read an article at Ars Technica
[09:05] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: if you run:   dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-common           should list the packages
[09:05] <belgianguy> but pêrhaps that was a late beta
[09:06] <susebh> TJ-: ok, ty, how can I use that to modify "search"?
[09:07] <wachpwnski> I am getting /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys is not a regular file
[09:07] <killer_> hi.....when is 12.10 going to release
[09:07] <niluje> I run ubuntu 12.04 with Unity. I have a dual screen. There's no option sticky edges in my display settings. How can I remove it?
[09:07] <actionParsnip> killer_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <wachpwnski> Is that a permission thing with sshd?
[09:07] <somsip> !isitout | killer_
[09:08] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: is that on the client on the server?
[09:08] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: do you use ssh keys?
[09:08] <wachpwnski> that is the server in /var/log/auth.log
[09:08] <SixThousandOwls> I was wondering, is there a way to minimize everything at once? I'm using 12.04.
[09:08] <wachpwnski> Yes
[09:09] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: then I'd look at your keys, make sure they are all good
[09:09] <TJ-> susebh: You can create "/etc/default/resolvconf" and add specific variables to it which will be used by that script to set "search"
[09:09] <actionParsnip> SixThousandOwls: if you ALT+TAB, you will get to a show desktop item
[09:09] <SixThousandOwls> Okay, thank you.
[09:10] <peto_> hi
[09:10] <linelevel> actionParsnip: I ran your last e2fsck command with the 'y' switch. It just finished. Now I manually mounted it successfully!
[09:10] <actionParsnip> linelevel: sweet! now get a backup off it
[09:10] <linelevel> will do!
[09:11] <linelevel> Thanks for the help.
[09:11] <actionParsnip> linelevel: no problems :)
[09:12] <mkvubuntu> thans actionParsnip i'm trying
[09:12] <thepreacher> from time to time the transparent conky window on my ubuntu 12.10 install turns all white so that I cannot see the white text. It doesn't stay that way for long though then changes back to transparent. I never had this with ubuntu 12.04. Any ideas what is going on?
[09:13] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: its a copy and paste to a terminal. What's to 'try'?
[09:13] <DJones> thepreacher: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 questions until its officially released
[09:13] <mkvubuntu> yes I put in it and I am waiting to finish and trying it if after all be solved :)
[09:13] <susebh> find it!!! :D to modify the "search" variabile in resolv.conf you need to first modify /run/resolvconf/interface/eth0.inet and the run #resolvconf -u
[09:13]  * susebh HAPPY! :D
[09:14] <venelin> how can I check AMD Catalyst Control Center version installed?
[09:14] <actionParsnip> susebh: seems a bit pointless to use DNS if you only have a small LAN and no DHCP.
[09:14] <Sefid_par> I wanna see the content of DVD1; I wanna know if it has Eclipse in it.
[09:14] <adoniscik> parsnip: i've created the desktop file and can see it in the dash, but I can't get it to appear in the file associations. any pointesr?
[09:14] <actionParsnip> venelin: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[09:14] <bkeith> What time will Ubuntu 12.10 be released at?
[09:14] <crizis> venelin, open catalyst center and check 'information' tab in the menu
[09:14] <actionParsnip> adoniscik: I believe it's to do with the categories line
[09:15] <susebh> actionParsnip: you say? Why? Explain, explain!!!
[09:15] <wachpwnski> actionParsnip:  authorized_keys isn't supposed to be a folder is it?
[09:16] <actionParsnip> susebh: the name translation can be handled by /etc/hosts   especially if you have something like 3 systems.
[09:16] <venelin> crizis, thanks a lot I should see it there
[09:16]  * Sefid_par werer glad if knew that Eclipse is in DVD1
[09:16] <actionParsnip> wachpwnski: i've not used ssh keys, so no idea. sorry
[09:16] <actionParsnip> bkeith: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:17] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: when I uninstalled nvidia, I got stuck with 720x400 as screen resolution
[09:17] <susebh> actionParsnip: ok, 'cause it's not a pain if you set up one-by-one manually... Right. But what if the LAN has got a complex config with a lot of PCs in there? Could be another way instead of doing it manually?!?
[09:17] <wachpwnski> got it
[09:17] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: sounds like your display isn't giving edid. You could use an xorg.conf file to set the resolution
[09:18] <mkvubuntu> Right same problem and even I cannot open xbmc now...
[09:19] <BadDesign> How can I find out how many inchs my monitor has with some kind of tool?
[09:19] <actionParsnip> susebh: if the network gets complex then yes maybe, DNS in the router just makes life convenient. Its not much different than adding the DNS file you just had to add.....
[09:19] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: did you reboot
[09:19] <somsip> BadDesign: you mean, a ruler?
[09:20] <mkvubuntu> I didn't reboot, should I reboot pc?
[09:20] <susebh> actionParsnip: ok! Understood. ty for your time!! :]
[09:20] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: yes, to reload the new driver
[09:21] <mkvubuntu> ok just give me the link to be in this webchat.freenode.net again thanks
[09:21] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: that's the link, why do I need to give you anything?
[09:22] <mkvubuntu> just in case something won't be fine then...
[09:23] <iceroot> BadDesign: maybe xrandr can read that information
[09:23] <adoniscik> parsnip: do you have to do anything after placfing the desktop file in the folder to get it to appear the file assocations list?
[09:23] <adoniscik> the right folder, that is
[09:24] <actionParsnip> mkvubuntu: I don't follow you
[09:35] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: still no :S
[09:36] <dyd> guys i'm installing linux mint, but i don't know what version i should install
[09:37] <dyd> now i use ubuntu
[09:37] <actionParsnip> dyd: mint isn't supported here
[09:37] <Kartagis> I've put in the line Modes        "1680x1050" in Subsection "Display" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but the resolution is still the same
[09:37] <dyd> actionParsnip, oh yea, #ubuntu xX
[09:37] <actionParsnip> !mint | dyd
[09:40] <liend> lnk
[09:42] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: can you help?
[09:45] <osteenbergen> Kartagis, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[09:45] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286621  is my xorg.conf   which may help
[09:45] <ace> i have a strange error i don't know how to fix when i installed gcc4.4 i386
[09:45] <ace> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-4.4-base_4.4.7-1ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:45] <ace> './usr/share/doc/gcc-4.4-base/README.Debian.gz' is different from the same file on the system
[09:46] <Kartagis> actionParsnip: Modes shouldn't be in Subsection "Display" then
[09:47] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: are there any bugs reported?
[09:47] <Kartagis> where?
[09:48] <actionParsnip> Kartagis: launchpad.net
[09:48] <actionParsnip> ace: are there bugs reported?
[09:48] <Kartagis> no idea
[09:50] <Knuffelbot> Knuffelbot voor de commandos van de bot typ je  !commands
[09:50] <Knuffelbot> kexwork voor de commandos van de bot typ je  !commands
[09:50] <TJ-> Kartagis: "man xorg.conf" gives detailed specifications of how Modes are used, from the Monitor, Modes, Display  sub-sections
[09:56] <Kartagis> TJ-: I'm seeing that Modes should be within SubSection "Display", but no luck for me :S
[09:57] <tunnuz> Hi there, does anyone know the release date of 12.10?
[09:58] <Laice> today i thought
[09:58] <Valtam> 18th
[09:58] <dontknow> seriously
[09:58] <dontknow> it will be released today?
[09:59] <Laice> nah they might just bin it
[09:59] <ncv> hello, have someone 11.10? If yes, can you verify if there is a macro/function __read_chk on include/*/asm/uistd*.h? thank you :)
[09:59] <Arnold> dontknow, indeed. 18th of October is the plan.
[10:00] <Laice> looking forward to inst'ing didnt try any of the betas/RCs this time round
[10:00] <Joel_re> does anyone use the karaoke app - ultrastar dx?
[10:00] <tunnuz> It's already October 18 where I live :D
[10:01] <tunnuz> Oh, yes, everywhere probably
[10:01] <tunnuz> but does anyone know the time?
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> Joel_re  there's performous in ubuntu
[10:01] <tunnuz> The release time
[10:01] <dontknow> i think i will go on with 12.04
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> tunnuz  of what timezone?
[10:01] <tunnuz> GMT+1
[10:01] <dr_willis> there never is a set time
[10:01] <tunnuz> (Italy)
[10:02] <TJ-> Kartagis: It says, under sub-section Display, Modes: "They  must  correspond  to  those specified or referenced in the appropriate Monitor section (including implicitly referenced built-in VESA standard modes)."
[10:02] <tunnuz> ok
[10:02] <riqdiiz> is there Ubuntu for android?
[10:02] <Joel_re> MonkeyDust: ah, yeah.. well Ive just been trying to guage how many users of ultrastar delux are out there, or if people are generally aware
[10:02] <resetknopje> 12.10 pm ???
[10:02] <Joel_re> the project is lacking devs and needs some love
[10:02] <tunnuz> resetknopje: yup
[10:02] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  there is an ARM release of ubuntu. but ive not seen a specific ubuntu on a tab;et/phone yet. except in a vm.
[10:03] <TJ-> Kartagis: Usually it is sufficient to specify the correct HorizSync and VertSync in the Monitor section. From those, the server can figure out which modes will work on the monitor
[10:03] <dontknow> if there is a gude to remove adware elements from 12.10, i may switch 12.10
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  adware elements?
[10:03] <dr_willis> dontknow:  just remove the shopping lense. its not adware
[10:03] <dr_willis> theres a check box option also i recall
[10:04] <Arnold> dontknow, there's also an option to disable online searching from the Privacy settings category
[10:04] <riqdiiz> ok Dr what is vm?
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  virtual machine
[10:04] <hetkat> help: I booted up once with my ps2 mouse disconnected and now after rebooting with it connected it does not work
[10:04] <dontknow> after that dash doesn't send what i typed?
[10:05] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  dozens of 'ubuntu in android os' apps on the marketplace/googlrplay store
[10:05] <riqdiiz> can it be used on smartphones?
[10:05] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  search the google play market...  yes.. it depends on your device
[10:06] <hetkat> help: I booted up once with my ps2 mouse disconnected and now after rebooting with it connected it does not work
[10:06] <dr_willis> they put  ubuntu in a vm on the phone, you then connect to via a vnc cliennnt to get a desktop normally.
[10:08] <riqdiiz> you get Ubuntu desktop version on the phone?
[10:09] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  yes.. may not be identical. to whats on the pc.
[10:09] <rich_> Can anyone suggest why I cant upgrade my ubuntu server to 12.10? http://pastebin.com/dW9CAQJ1
[10:10] <rich_> Nothing on apt-get update either, surely it should be able to update
[10:10] <DJones> rich_: Its released yet
[10:10] <jrib> rich_: 12.10 isn't out yet
[10:10] <patcito> jrib: will it be out today?
[10:10] <riqdiiz> does it offer bios multiboot on the phone?
[10:10] <jrib> patcito: that's the plan
[10:11] <dr_willis> so you used the 'update to developement' option?
[10:11] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  it runs in a vm.. so that would make no sence
[10:11] <rich_> Oh, I thought it had been http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-takes-flight-with-a-bag-full-of-juju/
[10:11] <patcito> rich_: ars is BS
[10:12] <rich_> Fair enough
[10:12] <rich_> that explains that then
[10:12] <rich_> thanks
[10:12] <dr_willis> or they just failed to state the actual release date
[10:12] <riqdiiz> ok because its not installed on firmware
[10:12] <jrib> rich_: you can join #ubuntu-release-party while you wait :)
[10:13] <belgianguy> lol, I got fooled by the ars article as well
[10:13] <belgianguy> perhaps I should update my news resources
[10:14] <riqdiiz> thanks Dr
[10:15] <dr_willis> every release we get the same things. :) 'this site says its out... no its not' 'whats the time of release.. there is no set time'.... and so on. ;)
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> that's why there are factoids, i guess, to answer always the sae
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> the same questions
[10:16] <dr_willis> and yes you can update/upgrade to final from beta.. ;)  that will cover 80% of what people will be asking..
[10:16] <dr_willis> i forget that  shopping lense disable factoid..
[10:16] <dr_willis> !ads
[10:17] <meomic> sorry to ask here - but i can not find any info on the web - maybe anyone knows at what time 12.10 will be released?
[10:17] <jrib> dr_willis: !adlens
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> meomic  any time now
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> developpers are having coffee
[10:19] <dr_willis> heh heh... and  theres the first... of the 80%
[10:19] <zalgor> Hello. I got printers listed in firefox, but not in kde applications. I am using local cups with browsepoll to a cupsserver. Any ideas?
[10:19] <meomic> MonkeyDust: so there wont be any conference or anything like that? - sorry im not familiar with that topic - im using already for 2 years but never cared and now i am having incopatible noebook - 12.10 will fix most of these things... thats why i am asking :)
[10:20] <dr_willis> some time soon meomic . theres never a set 'time'
[10:20] <meomic> ah oke, ive waited 1,5 month so its ok : )
[10:21] <dr_willis> if you were in a hurry there the daily build/last beta isos.
[10:21] <meomic> yea but i dont like to get into betas etc. - its hard to get out later of it...
[10:21] <dr_willis> i updated my beta install last night.. now to buckle down for the release day storm.
[10:21] <iceroot> meomic: dist-upgrade will give you the final when it is releases
[10:22] <dr_willis> get out of it?
[10:22] <dr_willis> and yes you can update/upgrade to final from beta.. ;)  that will cover 80% of what people will be asking..
[10:22] <iceroot> meomic: but i dont see a reason to install 12.10 today
[10:23] <meomic> dr_willis: ah ok, didnt knew it was easy to switch from beta to 'final' :)
[10:23] <dr_willis> wait for the release then wait an hr or so for the torrents to get going..  download the iso in 5 min.. then when you install the servers will be getting hammered  so you cant install other packages for a day or 3
[10:24] <dr_willis> meomic:  no switching at all.. ;)  you just update/updrade
[10:24] <dr_willis> the joy of apt.
[10:24] <jassi> hi
[10:24] <jassi> i have problem raegarding ubuntu 1204
[10:24] <iceroot> !details | jassi
[10:25] <dr_willis> i do tend to do a clean rrreinstall of my beta test box once final is out to 'learn' the proceeess and clean out the beta stuff id tested that i dont need
[10:25] <meomic> yea that is a nice idea - about downloading from torrent. thanks alot - will save alot of time
[10:25] <jassi> When I used to login into my system i got an error messg : Failed to apply network settings org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct You might not be able to connect to the Bluetooth network via this machine.
[10:26] <jassi> m using dual boot system
[10:26] <dr_willis> grab the torrents then wait a day or 3 untill i install ;) is normally for me
[10:26] <jassi> ubutnu version is 12.04
[10:26] <jassi> also wifi is not working
[10:26] <HollyRain> does 12.10 is going to coming with the search in Amazon enabled by default?
[10:26] <jassi> n blutooh too is not working
[10:27] <jassi> any help?
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> jassi  use blueman (bluetooth manager)
[10:28] <jassi> also
[10:28] <jassi> pendrives are aslo not visible
[10:28] <jassi> when i used to shutdown my system i always get ubuntu lgin screen
[10:28] <jassi> drive are not visible
[10:28] <jassi> what to do?
[10:28] <FloodBot1> jassi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <kompensator> is there a release party channel? :)
[10:29] <TJ-> jassi: Have you recently done an update on that system?
[10:29] <somsip> !party | kompensator
[10:29] <kompensator> thx
[10:30] <jassi> here is my problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> jassi  try ctrl-alt f1 sudo-apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade (do you have network in the tty screen?)
[10:30] <jassi> no
[10:31] <jassi> internet is not working
[10:31] <jassi> error is related to network
[10:31] <jassi> den how can i update
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> true
[10:32] <jassi> any help
[10:32] <TJ-> jassi: please pastebin the output of this command, run at a terminal: "sudo ls -l /"   - sometimes this can be the result of a permissions problem
[10:32] <abdelghani> is there any developper from Algeria?
[10:33] <ikonia> abdelghani: is there a reason you need someone from Algeria
[10:33] <addrae> help, my ubuntu looks like this
[10:33] <jassi> ok let me do
[10:34] <squev_> having problems logging in on ubuntu in my VM just loops back to login screen
[10:34] <abdelghani> ikonia: to install a specific thing
[10:34] <ikonia> abdelghani: you don't need someone in Algeria for tha
[10:34] <ikonia> abdelghani: just ask your question and someone maybe able to help
[10:35] <addrae> help my ubuntu looks like this http://i.imgur.com/7DCyv.png
[10:35] <jrib> squev_: create a fresh new user and see if it happens with the new user as well
[10:36] <addrae> help my ubuntu looks like this http://i.imgur.com/7DCyv.png
[10:36] <Zybe> How do you switch between terminals?
[10:36] <abdelghani> ikonia: we have here an internet pack called NEDJMA pack internet doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:37] <ejv> Zybe: if you wish to scroll tty's when physically attached, ctrl+alt+F[1-10] are usually mapped
[10:38] <ikonia> abdelghani: ok ?
[10:38] <addrae> help my ubuntu looks like this http://i.imgur.com/7DCyv.png
[10:38] <ejv> !patience | addrae
[10:38] <ikonia> abdelghani: you need to talk to the people who make it to find out why it's not working
[10:39] <jassi> i am back
[10:39] <susuke> hi guys
[10:40] <cdavis> Any torrents have 12.10 yet?
[10:41] <Angelicxhc> Hello guys! I'm having problem with installing Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS via USB stick. I'm restarting my Laptop (ASUS X59GL) and starts "Install Ubuntu" after time the Graphic Welcome Screen appears and just freeze...  where's the problem and how can I fix it anyone knows? Thanx in advance!
[10:42] <TJ-> !md5 | Angelicxhc
[10:42] <TimothyA> just got a new server...and it's exhibiting the same problems as my server with the dead harddisk. except, there are no bad blocks on the disk this time.... what else should I look for?
[10:42] <TJ-> Angelicxhc: Check the image downloaded and written to the flash device matches the checksum published on the download web-site - it could be the result of corruption
[10:44] <Angelicxhc> thanx
[10:44] <shwaiil> hi
[10:44] <shwaiil> Q: There's articles saying that 12.10 is released, but... that's not actually truth, at least I can't find it in the ubuntu website ?! tks for looking
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> shwaiil  any time now
[10:45] <DJones> shwaiil: Thats right, its not been officially released yet, although it is due at some point today
[10:45] <somsip> !isitout | shwaiil
[10:49] <racha> Am I mis-understanding the apt-get -purge switch?  I thought it was supposed to remove every trace of a program.
[10:49] <jassi> hi
[10:49] <jassi> i have problem
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> racha  try this line     dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[10:50] <jassi> here is the problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:50] <hetkat> help: ps/2 mouse stopped working. it is detected by mdetect but pointer doesnt move
[10:50] <hetkat> any ideas?
[10:51] <jassi> please help me
[10:51] <racha> MonkeyDust: thanks, I'll try that next time
[10:51]  * racha goes off to manually remove files and dirs :(
[10:52] <jassi> :(
[10:52] <susuke> hetkat, try this "modprobe psmouse"
[10:52] <hetkat> susuke -> blank response
[10:53] <ravn> anyone know where to find octave 3.6 packages for mint/ubuntu?
[10:53] <susuke> hetkat, oh... then sry dude...
[10:53] <hetkat> susuke i dont seem to have that module installed
[10:54] <susuke> hetkat, it works for me. when it was stuck i used this... it will work
[10:54] <hetkat> any idea how to install it?
[10:54] <jassi> hi
[10:54] <jassi> is there any to help me
[10:54] <jassi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:55] <AtoxIO> where is the waiting for quantal channel?
[10:55] <DJones> AtoxIO: #ubuntu-release-party
[10:55] <susuke> hetkat, try this "http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mouse-modules-2.6.32-5-powerpc64-di"
[10:55] <AtoxIO> DJones: thanks :D
[10:57] <jassi> hello
[10:58] <jassi> please help me
[10:58] <jassi> knock knock
[10:58] <jassi> hi
[10:58] <ikonia> jassi: you need to ask a question to get help
[10:58] <bkc_> !ask | JesseC
[10:58] <bkc_> !ask | jassi
[10:58] <jassi> here is my problm
[10:58] <jassi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[10:59] <ikonia> jassi: saying "knock knock" doesn't put anything for us to work on
[10:59] <ikonia> jassi: forget about the bluetooth error at this time
[10:59] <ikonia> jassi: concentrate on your wireless networking first
[10:59] <ranjan> Hi all, when will ubuntu 12.10 release?
[10:59] <Adam1213> ranjan: join #ubuntu-release-party
[11:00] <crizis> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-takes-flight-with-a-bag-full-of-juju/ ars technica review already out btw :P
[11:00] <ikonia> and only an idiot would read those reviews as it's not released.
[11:01] <blazemore> Like they're going to fix the fundamental issues between yesterday's daily and today's final build
[11:01] <jassi_> hi
[11:01] <blazemore> the issues are political, not technical. you can't open a bug report for that
[11:01] <jassi_> i have a probelm : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[11:02] <ikonia> jassi: and you've been told what do to
[11:02] <ikonia> what to do
[11:02] <ikonia> jassi: asking again won't change that
[11:02] <ikonia> jassi: concentrate on getting your wireless networking setup first
[11:02] <ikonia> ignore the bluetooth error
[11:02] <jassi_> soory
[11:02] <ikonia> then work on what's left
[11:02] <jassi_> i was offline
[11:02] <sturmi> jassi post your question on askubuntu
[11:02] <sturmi> without further information we can't do much
[11:02] <sturmi> a forum is better for that
[11:02] <jassi_> I already posted there
[11:02] <sturmi> well then i'm sorry but you have to wait a little bit
[11:03] <jassi_> what type of info do u want to know?
[11:03] <ikonia> jassi: what have you done to resolve the wireless networking so far ?
[11:03] <jassi_> nothing
[11:04] <jassi_> ikonia nothing is workig
[11:04] <ikonia> jassi_: right
[11:04] <ikonia> jassi_: so what make/model of network card do you have ?
[11:04] <ikonia> (wireless)
[11:04] <jassi_> how to know this
[11:04] <jassi_> ?
[11:05] <ikonia> jassi_: can you use the wired network on this machine ?
[11:06] <jassi_> related to netwrk nothing is working
[11:06] <jassi_> working
[11:06] <jassi_> :(\
[11:06] <bkc_> bring up a terminal and paste the output of lspci
[11:06] <blazemore> omg not in here though
[11:06] <bkc_> ^ !!!
[11:06] <blazemore> paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <ikonia> jassi_: please READ what is being said to you
[11:07] <blazemore> And paste the URL in here :-)
[11:07] <ikonia> jassi_: and answer the questions
[11:07] <ikonia> jassi_: can you use wired networking on this device ?
[11:07] <jassi_> ikonia: no
[11:07] <jassi_> but i have tried data card
[11:07] <jassi_> but dats not working
[11:08] <ikonia> jassi_: ok, is there a reason you can't use the wired card ? is that not working also ?
[11:08] <jassi_> right now i don't have wired connection
[11:08] <bkc_> jassi_: as I said, bring up a terminal and run lspci and then paste the result on http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the link here :)
[11:09] <hetkat> how can i find out which device my seriual mouse is attached to?
[11:09] <hetkat> I gather its either ttyS0 or ttyS1 but which?
[11:10] <bkc_> hetkat: neither
[11:10] <hetkat> go on..
[11:10] <bkc_> hetkat: /dev/input/mouse0
[11:11] <ikonia> jassi_: ok, run lspci and you should be able to see what your wirless card is, tell us that info
[11:11] <ikonia> jassi_: or paste the whole lot in a pastebin (not in this channel)
[11:11] <bkc_> hetkat: serial, ps-2 or usb has nothing to do with it... it has to be in /dev/input to work...
[11:11] <jassi_> ok
[11:11] <jassi_> let me do
[11:12] <hetkat> well if I do "sudo inputattach --daemon --intellimouse /dev/input/mouse0" it says "can't set line discipline"
[11:15] <marsfligth> Does exist a gui/frontend application to change defaults applications? Thanks
[11:15] <hetkat> bkc_ any ideas how I can get my mouse to work?
[11:16] <RaringOne> marsfligth: gnome-tweak-tool
[11:19] <jassi_> hi ikonia
[11:19] <jassi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286725/
[11:19] <marsfligth> RaringOne: Thanks
[11:19] <jassi_> please chacek the output
[11:20] <jassi_> ?
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> what time ubuntu 12.10 will release
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> what time ubuntu 12.10 will release
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> who konw?
[11:21] <RaringOne> !isitout
[11:21] <google_360_baidu> ?
[11:21] <jassi_> hi
[11:22] <jassi_> please help me
[11:23] <trijntje> !ask | jassi_
[11:24] <jassi_> here is the problem : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[11:25] <sturmi> and again we can't do anything with that
[11:25] <sturmi> add the output of lspci for example
[11:25] <jassi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286725/
[11:25] <jassi_> stuemi see the output
[11:26] <nannes> bububububuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
[11:26] <nannes> no quantal no quantal no quantal
[11:26] <^moonriver^> hi all
[11:27] <jassi_> sturmi here is the o/p : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286725/
[11:29] <Kartagis> when I uninstalled nvidia, I got stuck with 720x400 as screen resolution
[11:29] <Kartagis> please help
[11:31] <marsfligth> RaringOne: Sorry, in my 'gnome-tweak-tool' there are no option to change default applications, in my case the default music player
[11:34] <jassi> is there to help me
[11:34] <sabdfl> are we there yet?
[11:35] <somsip> !isitout | sabdfl
[11:35] <jassi> here is my problem
[11:35] <jassi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286666/
[11:36] <trijntje> jassi: that's multiple problems actually
[11:37] <the_dark1knight> hey where do i get the name that I have as a root - /home/foo. I want to get foo without knowing what my root dir is. i have tried uname
[11:37] <trijntje> have you tried installing nonfree drivers for your wifi?
[11:37] <jassi> hm
[11:37] <jassi> what to do
[11:37] <jassi> ?
[11:37] <RaringOne> sabdfl: :)
[11:37] <blazemore> the_dark1knight: You can use ~ which is your home directory
[11:37] <sabdfl> nice nick, RaringOne
[11:37] <trijntje> the_dark1knight: what do you mean, the root dir is always /
[11:37] <RaringOne> sabdfl: Thank you sir.
[11:37] <blazemore> the_dark1knight: For example, ~/Music = /home/username/Music
[11:38] <blazemore> uname has nothing to do with it
[11:38] <RaringOne> sabdfl: you should come party with us in #ubuntu-release-party
[11:38] <trijntje> jassi: open update manager
[11:38] <sabdfl> RaringOne, am there already
[11:38] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:38] <jassi> internet is not working
[11:38] <the_dark1knight> trijntje: oh yeah forgot / is root . i meant home. my bad
[11:39] <trijntje> the_dark1knight: echo $USER
[11:39] <trijntje> jassi: wireless is not working, so you have to attach a network cable first
[11:40] <jassi> i treid data card
[11:40] <jassi> but not working
[11:40] <trijntje> jassi: data card?
[11:41] <jassi> dongle
[11:41] <jassi> relience dongle
[11:41] <the_dark1knight> trijntje: good
[11:42] <mamed> i wonder how much ram does ubuntu 1204 consume normally? my laptop has 1204 and it consumes 800 Mb and my ram is 2Gb
[11:42] <the_dark1knight> trijntje: can i use uname with some option and find out?
[11:42] <mamed> the_dark1knight: uname -a
[11:44] <mamed> i wonder how much ram does ubuntu 1204 consume normally? my laptop has 1204 and it consumes 800 Mb and my ram is 2Gb
[11:44] <trijntje> jassi: you have to use a  cable to install the wireless driver
[11:44] <the_dark1knight> mamed: no -a doesn't work
[11:45] <the_dark1knight> mamed: just wanted foo from /home/foo/
[11:45] <mamed> the_dark1knight: wht are you looking for
[11:45] <musa_> exit
[11:48] <happiness_design> hi
[11:51] <akis> any idea how can i disable windows minimize effect at gnome classic (no effects) under 12.04?
[11:55] <jmbZero> hi@all, any news about quantal release? :-)
[11:55] <Guillem_> akis, probably at metacity properties under gconf-editor
[11:55] <jmbZero> i just can't wait anymore
[11:55] <somsip> !isitout | jmbZero
[11:55] <Guillem_> akis,  there used to be a sort of  "low resources" settings
[11:56] <Guillem_> setting
[11:56] <akis> i look at this right now
[11:57] <jmbZero> somsip: thanks :-)
[11:57] <AxonetBE> is it possible to put in raid and SCSI disk with an SATA disk?
[11:57] <Guillem_> akis: gconf_editor->/aps/metacity/general/reduced_resources
[11:58] <akis> do i have to check it? probably yes?
[11:58] <Guillem_> akis, yes
[11:58] <ellorenz> Hi to all
[11:58] <akis> that it. great. now is working very very fast.
[11:58] <Guillem_> akis, the "long description" tells what it actually does
[11:59] <akis> yes i know. i used already gconfig to customize windos buttons form left to right.
[12:01] <marsfligth> Does exist a gui/frontend application to change defaults applications? Thanks
[12:02] <akis> one more question. when my gnome classic is loading 'konversation' or is emptying my trash in dolphin i can see in my panel running something starting from k...(must be a kde source). this doesnt happen under xcfe. is it possible to disable it? after some seconds it auto disappeares
[12:02] <stimpie> marsfligth, settings->details has default application
[12:03] <Fodi69> marsfligth: on the top right corner, you open Settings and there is a Details option on the bottom right corner
[12:03] <ovidiu^^> what's the channel for ubuntu 12.10?
[12:04] <k1l_> ovidiu^^: #ubuntu+1
[12:04] <ovidiu^^> thq
[12:04] <Dragonster82> Hey what's up people!
[12:04] <Dragonster82> How are all of you?
[12:04] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, sup!
[12:04] <livingdaylight> !hi | Dragonster82
[12:05] <Dragonster82> Hey what's up livingdaylight ,do you have any problem?
[12:05] <Dragonster82> with ubuntu, etc.
[12:05] <riqdiiz> fine dragonster;)
[12:05] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, yes, many.
[12:05] <Dragonster82> That's great riqdiiz!
[12:05] <Dragonster82> What problem do you have? I might be able to help you. @livingdaylight
[12:05] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, I have xfce on my laptop
[12:06] <Dragonster82> Okay, and?
[12:06] <suigeneris> hi
[12:06] <[twisti]> is there any reason not to mount /tmp as a ramdisk, assuming i can spare the ram ?
[12:06] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone?
[12:06] <livingdaylight> Drag0nir, I don't know if it is a good choice. It's saying I don't have permission to 'hibernate' = weird
[12:06] <ellorenz> I need to create an hotspot wifi with apn, i have an intel interated wifi  somebody can help me?
[12:06] <marsfligth> stim and Fodi69, thanks, was under my eyes and I never seen. Great!
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, I don't know if it is a good choice. It's saying I don't have permission to 'hibernate' = weird
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Drag0nir, sorry
[12:07] <suigeneris> I uninstalled nvidia-* but nvidia-common, and now I'm stuck with 720x400 resolution. can you help?
[12:07] <Dragonster82> Whoa, that's weird livingdaylight, I have never seen an operating system not allowing you to hibernate, maybe it wants you to work. Haha.
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, also the Date is on top of the Time all scrunched up on the panel, instead side by side. Looking in preferences I don't see a solution
[12:08] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone?
[12:08] <riqdiiz> dragonster82;)is there a way of altering a machines IP?
[12:08] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, yea, the slave master :/
[12:08] <Dragonster82> riqdiiz , do you mean the static IP or what?
[12:08] <riqdiiz> ye
[12:08] <livingdaylight> is today the release of quetzal?
[12:08] <Dragonster82> You can do that by accessing your router's localhost if I'm not wrong.
[12:08] <livingdaylight> quetzal is a bird?
[12:08] <Ansii> riqdiiz start using TOR :)
[12:09] <Dragonster82> livingdaylight have you done a complete re-installation of xcde
[12:09] <riqdiiz> Ansii wat is TOR?
[12:09] <livingdaylight> is this the quetzal bird we're naming our distro after? http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html
[12:10] <livingdaylight> Dragonster82, its a fairly new/clean/fresh install - about 5 days old
[12:10] <Guillem_> akis, I would say that you have something in your session
[12:10] <Guillem_> try gnome-session-properties
[12:10] <Ansii> riqdiiz start using TOR .. TOR is a network application to hide ure IP info over the network.. which is made possible through a number of ways..
[12:11] <Ansii> riqdiiz visit the TOR site and you'll get to know what i mean..
[12:11] <Ansii> riqdiiz start using TOR .. TOR is a network application to hide ure IP info over the network.. which is made possible through a number of ways..
[12:11] <Guillem_> akis, kde has a GUI for the session as well, and as far as I can tell, they tend to mix things one to the other
[12:11] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone?
[12:11] <Eagleman> Any idea why my crontab backup job was executed each minute for 1 hour long? When i run the script mannualy it just runs one time:   *        4       *       *       3      /scripts/backups/configbackup
[12:11] <Dragonster82> livingdaylight, I think it may be a problem with your permissions.
[12:12] <riqdiiz> I'd be glad to know ;)
[12:12] <suigeneris> Eagleman: the first * means every minute
[12:12] <akis> gnome-session-properties opens my startup applications
[12:12] <Dragonster82> riqdiiz If you want to set your static IP, you have to access your localhost, which by default would be 192.168.1.1
[12:13] <Guillem_> akis, check there is no entry with a "k..." at the beginning
[12:13] <Guillem_> akis, just a gess
[12:13] <Guillem_> guess
[12:13] <suigeneris> I uninstalled nvidia-* but nvidia-common, and now I'm stuck with 720x400 resolution. can you help?
[12:13] <akis> Guillem_: nothing. i have only thunderbird and nvidia driver
[12:13] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help
[12:13] <Guillem_> akis, OK, forget it
[12:13] <Eagleman> suigeneris doesnt it mean on which minute of the hour like 3:30?
[12:14] <suigeneris> Eagleman: then it has to be 30 15 * * *
[12:14] <Guillem_> akis, I would say that when you start a KDE app (konversation, dolphin, ...) it does start some KDE services. What you see is that.
[12:14] <suigeneris> Eagleman: if you want it to run on 3:30PM every day
[12:14] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help.. i have a HPDV61152TX machine
[12:14] <akis> Guillem_: yes thats right. but it happens only in gnome classic. not in unity, not in gnome 3 and as i wrote already not in xcfe under xubuntu 12.04. why?
[12:15] <Eagleman> *        4       *       *       3      /scripts/backups/configbackup   gets executed on wednesday night on 4:00, i have no idea why it just keeps going for an hour
[12:15] <Guillem_> akis, probably what happens is that xfce and gnome-3 don't care to show that in their "systray" whereas gnome-classic uses an older "systray" concept that gets puzzled and shows that
[12:16] <Guillem_> akis, very few people use gnome-classic, you know...
[12:16] <Eagleman> I had like 60 files in the configbackup directory, each different with one minute
[12:17] <suigeneris> Eagleman: do you want it to run at 4AM every Wednesday?
[12:17] <Eagleman> Yes
[12:17] <suigeneris> Eagleman: try 00 4 * * 3
[12:18] <mure> ciao
[12:18] <mure> list
[12:18] <suigeneris> Eagleman: or 00 4 * * wed
[12:18] <dr_willis> no file listing here mure
[12:18] <suigeneris> !list | mure
[12:19] <akis> i am came in gnome classic because i am dissapointed from both unity and gnome 3. Actually i am running gnome like xcfe because i don't have the courage to fresh install xubuntu 12.04.
[12:19] <Eagleman> suigeneris i will try   30       14      *       *       4      /scripts/backups/configbackup
[12:19] <Eagleman> So it will run in like 11 minutes
[12:19] <Eagleman> thursday 14:30
[12:19] <suigeneris> dr_willis: can you help me?
[12:20] <dr_willis> suigeneris:   depends on the issue.
[12:20] <suigeneris> Eagleman: use 30 14 * * * thu just in case
[12:20] <samuel> argh, i upgraded to the beta of 12.10 and everything was fine, today whole bunch of updates with the release and now none of my proprietary drivers are activated and my touchpad doesnt work waaahhhh :P
[12:20] <suigeneris> dr_willis: uninstalled nvidia-* but nvidia-common, and now I'm stuck with 720x400 resolution. can you help?
[12:20] <samuel> who's bright idea was it to remove jockey
[12:20] <dr_willis> why did you uninstall them suigeneris ?
[12:20] <Dragonster82> I have no idea samuel .
[12:21] <maxvi> When will be released ubuntu 12.10?
[12:21] <Eagleman> 30       14      *       *       thu    /scripts/backups/configbackup
[12:21] <suigeneris> I'm trying to use nouveau (I think that's the opensource driver)
[12:21] <Eagleman> Now i have to wait
[12:21] <samuel> i just downloaded it from the software center and got my wifi going again (had to tether to my phone to do it though)
[12:21] <suigeneris> maxvi: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[12:21] <maxvi> Thanks
[12:21] <suigeneris> dr_willis: I'm trying to use nouveau (I think that's the opensource driver)
[12:22] <dr_willis> suigeneris:  that   would be the default. but why use it if the nvidia driver works
[12:22] <suigeneris> dr_willis: otherwise xen shuts down the monitor
[12:22] <Dragonster82> I can help you suigeneris
[12:22] <dr_willis> suigeneris:  check your x logs to see what driver is being used now
[12:22] <suigeneris> Dragonster82: please do
[12:23] <Dragonster82> Hang on suigeneris
[12:23] <suigeneris> dr_willis: sudo lshw -C display says nouveau
[12:23] <suigeneris> brb, getting coffee
[12:23] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[12:24] <toremirk> faoiseamh: do a memtest.
[12:25] <mure> hallo
[12:25] <toremirk> ehlo
[12:25] <mure> list
[12:25] <Dragonster82> suigeneris are you back?
[12:25] <Fluggs> hi
[12:26] <mure> quasi amici
[12:26] <Fluggs> is it right that 12.10 release is today?
[12:26] <Dragonster82> Hello there fluggs
[12:26] <GoodHeartedGuy> hi.. ubuntu 12.10 still not uploaded .. any idea when will it be released?
[12:26] <cdavis> I just have no patience on release day either
[12:27] <suigeneris> I'm back
[12:27] <Dragonster82> Are you there suigeneris?
[12:27] <Dragonster82> Okay, good.
[12:27] <GoodHeartedGuy> i am going crazy !!!! ..
[12:27] <FlyingElvis> whats the name of the launch party channel?
[12:27] <suigeneris> FlyingElvis: #ubuntu-release-party
[12:28] <FlyingElvis> ty suigeneris
[12:28] <Dragonster82> I want you to open up terminal, type in this: "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  remove the quotes of course. Then go to the monitor lines , and overwrite these two lines : HorizSync and VertRefresh with this:
[12:28] <nikolam> I have message: "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." while updating from 10.04 LTS 64-bit to 12.04 , while pulseaudio is using 100% CPU (both cores).. What should I do now (Seems like upgrade is at the end)...
[12:28] <Dragonster82>     HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
[12:28] <Dragonster82>     VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
[12:29] <Dragonster82> @nikolam try restarting?
[12:29] <phet> Hi. I installed w7 in a disk, and then linux in another disk. Linux says the disk with linux is sda and the one with w7 is sdb, but I cannot boot w7, grub2 doesnt seem to detect it, its like it doesnt exist, but I can see it with gparted (the other disk)
[12:29] <savio> hello
[12:29] <Dragonster82> Hello there savio.
[12:29] <GoodHeartedGuy> the release date of ubuntu 12.10 is today only right???
[12:29] <Dragonster82> @GoodHeartedGuy google it.
[12:29] <suigeneris> Dragonster82: then?
[12:29] <Dragonster82> suigeneris I'll PM you the steps again.
[12:30] <suigeneris> GoodHeartedGuy: /j #ubuntu-release-party
[12:30] <savio> Dragonster82, hey
[12:30] <suigeneris> Dragonster82: I did those changes, what now?
[12:30] <GoodHeartedGuy> Dragonster82: it says today.. and its not uploaded yet !
[12:31] <nikolam> Dragonster82, problem is, will everything be allright after it?
[12:31] <somsip> !isitout
[12:31] <Dragonster82> nikolam : what were we speaking about again?
[12:31] <suigeneris> GoodHeartedGuy: it's today sometime between now and 23:59:59 (quoting the /topic)
[12:32] <Dragonster82> Suigeneris : reboot
[12:32] <suigeneris> brb
[12:32] <Eagleman> suigeneris you were right:   http://pastebin.com/Hf7hEdp0
[12:32] <Eagleman> And the config backups only exists one time
[12:32] <nikolam> Dragonster82, upgrade process halted with pulseaudio 100%
[12:32] <nikolam> now precise process is using 100%
[12:33] <nikolam> "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[12:33] <xuqindong> Hi
[12:33] <Dragonster82> @Nikolam: I have no idea what the problem is.
[12:33] <Dragonster82> Why don't you PM me the errors
[12:33] <nikolam> Dragonster82, but you suggested restarting. Thanks for it.
[12:33] <Dragonster82> nikolam restarting MIGHT fix it.
[12:34] <nikolam> khm. khm, I guess I MIGHT be thankful this is not the server I am upgrading.
[12:34] <Kartagis> yay!
[12:35] <Kartagis> Dragonster82: I'm suigeneris, thanks it worked
[12:35] <Dragonster82> No problem kartagis.
[12:35] <Kartagis> now I'm using nouveau and I have 1380x768 screen res
[12:36] <Dragonster82> That's great to hear Kartagis.
[12:36] <Kartagis> now to find out if sen works alright
[12:36] <Dragonster82> Or rather, read.
[12:36] <Kartagis> the only glitch is, it gives me horizontal stripes on the screen at splash screen
[12:37] <Kartagis> that's acceptable I guess
[12:37] <Kartagis> or is it?
[12:37] <nikolam>   Package libkparts4 is not configured yet.
[12:37] <nikolam>  kate depends on libktexteditor4 (>= 4:4.8.1); however:
[12:37] <nikolam>   Package libktexteditor4 is not configured yet.
[12:37] <nikolam>  kate depends on libplasma3 (>= 4:4.8.1); however:
[12:37] <FloodBot1> nikolam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:37] <nikolam>   Package libplasma3 is not configured yet.
[12:37] <nikolam>  kate depends on libqt4-qt3support (>= 4:4.5.3); however:
[12:37] <Dragonster82> I have no idea about that one, Kartagis, because I've used that method to fix my laptop, too. It had no problems.
[12:37] <ruscour> !party
[12:37] <Kartagis> !paste | nikolam
[12:38] <Kartagis> brb, to check xen
[12:38] <Dragonster82> Okay kartagis.
[12:38] <onats> where is the download for the new version?
[12:38] <amac> is 12.10 coming out today?
[12:38] <Dragonster82> New version of what, onats? You can check out all the version at www.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <nikolam> Anyway it is restarting. in GU now. After waited for precise process to stop (after killing sound)
[12:39] <amac> I am looking forward to new amazon feature. It will help me find things I need to buy.
[12:39] <onats> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-takes-flight-with-a-bag-full-of-juju/
[12:39] <onats> so it hasn't been released?
[12:39]  * nikolam is sorry again for flooding I thought I send /msg.
[12:39] <jingjong> hi
[12:40] <tsimpson> onats: sometime later today
[12:40] <Dragonster82> Hello there jingjong.
[12:40] <amac> what would be better is if ubuntu would periodically give you full screen ads of products which you might want based on your usage habits
[12:40] <onats> tsimpson: ok thanks. are you familiar with juju and openstack?
[12:40] <onats> anyone familiar with that? openstack + juju?
[12:40] <tsimpson> onats: I'm not, no
[12:40] <onats> !juju
[12:41] <Kartagis> yay! I'm using nvidia with open source drivers, on 1320x640 screen resolution AND on xen kernel
[12:41] <mtx1980> hi ppl
[12:42] <mtx1980> anyonde there?
[12:42] <Eagleman> !ask
[12:42] <oDiafanos> !πατιενψε
[12:43] <oDiafanos> !patience
[12:44] <phet> any help with linux seems unable to detect w7 in sub?
[12:44] <phet> sdb sorry
[12:45] <osteenbergen> phenom, what commands are you running?
[12:45] <osteenbergen> phenom, sorry should be phet
[12:46] <kuukie> hey guys, does anybody know when the ubuntu 12.10 final version will be there to download?
[12:46] <phet> osteenbergen: I just installed it, and it is not detected. So I tried os-prove, it doesnt find it
[12:47] <osteenbergen> phet, so windows was installed and then you added ubuntu or did you already have an installation?
[12:47] <locherm> kuukie, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[12:47] <phet> osteenbergen: I had 2 empty disks. I installed windows in 1, then linux in the other
[12:48] <kuukie> it should be released today but it isnt there until know
[12:48] <osteenbergen> phet, I got both on a single disk multiple partitions and it auto detected them... looking for the command to update grub
[12:48] <locherm> kuukie, according to the link i just posted it should be release next week
[12:49] <kuukie> hmpf...okay thanks
[12:49] <locherm> np
[12:49] <somsip> locherm: it's 18th Oct, sometime
[12:49] <phet> osteenbergen: my problem is that I have both systems in different disks, and it seems to fail to detect it
[12:50] <Papa> elooo is ubuntu 12.10 available for download if yes please give me links
[12:50] <theadmin> Papa: Not yet.
[12:50] <somsip> !isitout | Papa
[12:50] <osteenbergen> phet, and you are sure you installed grub on the correct disk?
[12:50] <Papa> how many hrs left?
[12:50] <somsip> Papa: more
[12:51] <Papa> any ideas how many more hours?
[12:51] <osteenbergen> phet, http://askubuntu.com/questions/197868/grub-does-not-detect-windows
[12:51] <somsip> Papa: no. it will be out when it's out
[12:51] <kuukie> locherm, according to that site it sould be released today
[12:51] <phet> osteenbergen: grub is installed in the linux disk
[12:51] <osteenbergen> phet, basically run "sudo os-prober" and check if it sees windows
[12:51] <Papa> some wbesites saying ubuntu 12.10 is available for download
[12:51] <somsip> !isitout | Papa
[12:52] <Papa> but when i go to download 12.04.1
[12:52] <osteenbergen> phet, mine says: "/dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain"
[12:52] <joker__> hello i have a problem witch my ubuntu 10.10 i'm know is old one but i dont have so good internet conect to update it
[12:52] <locherm> the ubuntu wiki says it's going to be release next week
[12:52] <theadmin> Papa: "Some sites" aren't a trustable source. ubuntu.com is. It's NOT out.
[12:52] <somsip> Papa: it is not out yet. It could be any minute, or it could be a while
[12:52] <Treaver> Umm where is the release at for 12.10??? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[12:52] <phet> osteenbergen: this is my exact same error (the link you pasted)
[12:52] <Papa> xD
[12:52] <joker__> my problem is witch libusb-dev i can't to install it
[12:53] <osteenbergen> phet, follow the steps and vote if it works ;)
[12:53] <Papa> 12.04 gave me problems so can't wait
[12:53] <theadmin> joker__: That's not surprising. 10.10 is not supported, the repos are no longer around.
[12:53] <phet> osteenbergen: I will try, thank you, I have the computer in another office lol
[12:53] <theadmin> joker__: Upgrade or, well...
[12:53] <Papa> phoronix is saying unity is lower than kde is it true
[12:53] <Papa> slower
[12:53] <osteenbergen> phet, your welcome
[12:53] <theadmin> Papa: Probably depends on your hardware... For me, yes, it is.
[12:54] <Papa> huh kde is fast than gnome based unity ?
[12:54] <ItsAllGoneWierd> hi, if i make changes like installing wifi drivers while running linux from USB, those changes will be permanent, right?
[12:54] <joker__> sad its no way to install libusb-dev i need to switchmode on my huawei modem
[12:54] <Papa> ubuntu 12.10 will ship with which kernel any ideas ?
[12:55] <theadmin> !info linux-image-generic quantal | Papa
[12:55] <Papa> kk
[12:55] <Papa> what do u think abt amazon integration ?
[12:55] <Papa> some people not liking it
[12:55] <Dragonster82> Whoa, "Papa", what a nice name.
[12:56] <theadmin> Papa: Please refrain from offtopic discussion. This channel is support only. Quantal discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 until release.
[12:56] <Papa> dragonstar this is my real nickname :)
[12:56] <Treaver>  /join #Ubuntu+1
[12:59] <ibere_SP> hi folks. what's the current, stable and supported java to install on ubuntu 12.04: openjdk-7-jre or openjdk-6-jre?
[13:00] <theadmin> ibere_SP: Both are stable and supported, just choose the one that fits your needs better. I'd go with 6 myself, 7 still has some problems even upstream.
[13:00] <wols> !java
[13:01] <hackeron> anyone know of a PPA that has ffmpeg 1.0?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:03] <ibere_SP> i was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java but i'm confused once in Synaptics there's an Ubuntu icon saying only openjdk-6-jre is supported...
[13:04] <CorrupterThelost> how do i get a voice?
[13:04] <CorrupterThelost> oh nevermind.
[13:04] <CorrupterThelost> good day everyone.
[13:04] <theadmin> CorrupterThelost: Hello.
[13:04] <Ramsed>  /join #Ubuntu+1
[13:05] <CorrupterThelost> java 7 is still pretty new
[13:05] <CorrupterThelost> might be some time until it is fully adopted and updated in synaptics.
[13:07] <Eagleman> How do i create a user and group in one command? like what happend when i had to fill in a username on startup
[13:08] <Eagleman> when installing*
[13:08] <drag0nius> is there something extra i need to do to run /etc/cron.d/ folder?
[13:09] <drag0nius> i've file containing http://pastebin.com/BPmNLM7t but it never runs
[13:09] <iceroot> drag0nius: just install cron and cron will execute the files in /etc/cron.d/ when they have the correct syntax
[13:10] <drag0nius> i have it installed
[13:10] <Naeblis> Hi. I want to connect an external monitor with my Compaq laptop, but I keep getting a blank monitor. The Display settings also don't show the second monitor as being detected. I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers. Any help?
[13:10] <iceroot> drag0nius: /var/log/syslog  should show the script (imo)
[13:10] <drag0nius> tried restarting with sudo service cron restart
[13:10] <drag0nius> but still nothing
[13:10] <CorrupterThelost> eagleman side chat me.
[13:10] <Guillem_> Naeblis, nvidia-settings
[13:11] <htraki> What is the release time today for 12.10?
[13:11] <Eagleman> what CorrupterThelost?
[13:11] <Guillem_> Naeblis, setup the external monitor there
[13:11] <Guillem_> Naeblis, "Display settings" is OK for oss drivers but I think it does not work OK with nvidia proprietary
[13:11] <dontknow> i will try to build chromium
[13:11] <Ivani> Hello folks...
[13:11] <Zybe> How do I open a application from terminal without the terminal beeing connected to the application?
[13:11] <Naeblis> Guillem_, thanks! Will look into it. :)
[13:11] <Eagleman> !pm CorrupterThelost
[13:12] <huggy-bear> Zybe: append an ampersand or & to the command
[13:12] <huggy-bear> e.g.: rhythmbox &
[13:12] <drag0nius> got it, the file had some weird owner
[13:12] <drag0nius> wasnt root
[13:12] <Guillem_> Naeblis, among the options regarding mutiple monitor there, you most  probably you want "twinview"
[13:12] <Guillem_> Naeblis, what a horrible syntax. Hope the message is clear though.
[13:13] <zykotick9> Naeblis: be sure you are using nvidia-settings, and enable the monitor in there
[13:13] <Zybe> huggy-bear: If I do that and then close the terminal the application closes to.
[13:14] <theadmin> Zybe: application &disown
[13:14] <theadmin> Zybe: Then close the terminal.
[13:14] <Qaa> o/
[13:15] <Naeblis> Guillem_, seems to be working. At least the monitor is showing something other than blank. :)
[13:15] <zykotick9> Zybe: you might want to try "nohup rhythmbox" then try closing the terminal, and see if rhythmbox stays open...
[13:15] <theadmin> Zybe: (or yeah, if "application" is already running, then nohup it)
[13:17] <phet> osteenbergen: no luck with that. I have tried other things and nothing. I can see the partition and mount it, but os-probe won't recognize it
[13:18] <osteenbergen> phet, maybe the bootloader of windows 7 is corrupt so the partition doesn't register as a windows
[13:18] <Guillem_> Naeblis, in twinview mode, the monitor extends the desktop. You may change the relative position and/or overlay them. Drag windows to make them show at the other monitor.
[13:18] <CorrupterThelost> bootloader of windows 7 goes corrupt alot and is easily fixable.
[13:18] <phet> osteenbergen: I havent touch anything in that other disk
[13:18] <theadmin> phet: Have you maybe removed the boot partition?
[13:19] <theadmin> phet: Windows installs it's bootloader to a separate, 100MB partition, for EFI compatibility.
[13:19] <phet> boort partition? the one created by the installer? no, it's there
[13:19] <Guillem_> Naeblis, you may also clone the monitors (useful for presentations with a beamer)
[13:19] <CorrupterThelost> windows uses a small 100-350 MB partition for the bootloader or places a file called boot which is hidden on the first primary partition of that disk
[13:19] <phet> theadmin: I have a disk with w7 and a disk with linux. I didnt touch the w7 disk at all
[13:19] <CorrupterThelost> did you do anything to change that?
[13:20] <CorrupterThelost> oh i see, you say you installed win7 and then disconnected it while installing linux and then plugged it back in and tried to register it with grub?
[13:20] <phet> CorrupterThelost: no, both were contected while I installed linux
[13:20] <phet> but linux was installed in another disk
[13:20] <akis> hi all. althougt i installed en_US while i installed my system now this is 'gray" and everything is running under en_UK. How can i re-load en_US?
[13:20] <osteenbergen> phet, there is also boot-repair to help diagnose some issues: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info#Step_2_-_Install_Boot-Repair
[13:22] <JoeyJoeJo> How do I save static routes so I don't have to re-enter them after every reboot?
[13:23] <susuke> hi .... how can i remove rhythmbox from volume indicator and also want to replace vlc insteam of rhythmbox. can anyone tell me
[13:24] <BluesKaj> phet , which media did you use to install ubuntu ?
[13:25] <theadmin> susuke: Not really possible -- Ubuntu developers developed it specifically for RB I'd think.
[13:25] <truexfan81> i have buntu 12.04 on my pc, i have a samba share setup. On my netbook i dualboot 12.04 and xp. 12.04 does not see the samba share, xp sees it and can access it
[13:25] <truexfan81> whats up with that?
[13:25] <susuke> theadmin, oh .. ok
[13:27] <ubsrv> Hi, trying to install a packet using apt-get , im geting this error
[13:27] <ubsrv> http://pastebin.com/YJFSsWuV
[13:28] <bkfitz> Need help: Using 12.04 Classic with Compiz but the 'grid' effect (snap windows to 1/2 screen) is not working even though it is enabled in Compiz Config Settings Manager.  Anyone have any ideas???
[13:30] <truexfan81> anyone?
[13:30] <bkfitz> Crazy... now it's working
[13:30] <bkfitz> sporatically
[13:30] <Index> hey
[13:30] <BluesKaj> phet  booy into th elive cd or usb and open a terminal , run sudo fdisk -l to determine the assigned device designation /dev/sdX of your ubuntu install , X being a letter /dev/sda or b or c etc ..then in the terminal run , sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , that should reinstall grub and it should show the OSs on your system
[13:31] <bkfitz> its working with some windows but not others...
[13:31] <bkfitz> xchat = working
[13:31] <BluesKaj> err boot into a live cd or ..
[13:31] <bkfitz> chrome = not working
[13:31] <bkfitz> firefox = working - wt?
[13:32] <truexfan81> more info: netbook does not show the share when i do smbtree either
[13:33] <Index> does nobody actually talk in this chat? O_o
[13:33] <CrypticS_> Index: did you have a question of some kind?
[13:33] <Index> nah i  just want to kill some time instead of do college work
[13:34] <Pici> Index: Its a support channel, if you're looking for general chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-release-party (though thats just for today)
[13:34] <DJones> Index: You may want to join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party for general chat
[13:34] <Index> ah ok, thanks man :D
[13:38] <zoktar> So did everyone read about the  ubuntu phone & tablet?, im excited! i was wondering if someone more knowledgable could tell me how hard/easy/possible it would be to run existing android apps on such a device? and or how much work would need to be put in to port existing android apps to work with a ubuntu phone / tablet. since its all linux based and whatnot.
[13:39] <truexfan81> well since i'm being ignored i'll just leave
[13:41] <daviddoria> has anyone successfully compiled gcc 7.2 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:44] <flomoto> hi everybody. Release after release, I see less and less infatuation around a new ubuntu version. And for 12.10, it's even worse : no countdown on websites, nobody seems to be waiting for it. Today, the 12.10 is supposed to be released, and no one care. Does it mean people are disappointed by unity ? Or some kind of hype effect about ubuntu born in 2006 or so has vanished ? I don't know.
[13:45] <kroson> Hello, where is ubuntu 12.10? xD
[13:45] <Pici> flomoto: This isn't a discussion channel.  If you want to talk about the release theres #ubuntu-release-party
[13:45] <Pici> kroson: ITs not out yet.
[13:46] <flomoto> Pici: pffff......
[13:46] <jrzabott> flomoto: In my ludricous opinion... After I installed kubuntu-desktop, i'm a bit disapointed with unity... The average response speed in everything is very slow in my old notebook... =( I do believe in unity, but in this moment I choose kubuntu-desktop.
[13:54] <akis> i am running gnome classic on 12.04. every time i launch a kde application i see in my bottom panel 'launching kde global shortcuts server'. is it possible to disable this?
[13:55] <Basit> hello, I want to ask something
[13:55] <belgianguy> !isitout
[13:55] <belgianguy> dangit
[13:56] <Basit> At what time (in GMT) will Ubuntu 12.10 release?
[13:56] <kroson> Basit: the time is: When it's done :). Be patient
[13:57] <Basit> can you tell me the exact time of ubuntu release party?
[13:58] <compdoc> Basit, its invite only
[13:58] <compdoc> only the cool ppl are allowed
[13:58] <ludolan> Hi, is it possible to put ubuntu iso on an USB key WITH the last updates ?
[13:59] <Basit> I know that, just tell me when 12.10 will be out.
[13:59] <ZahnPastor> Does anyone know the exact time for the ubuntu 12.10 update? In european time?
[13:59] <Basit> in GMT +5:00
[13:59] <Pici> ZahnPastor, Basit: There is no preset time.  It will be out when its done.
[14:00] <ZahnPastor> :C
[14:00] <Basit> OK, so what are the new features in 12.10?
[14:00] <fidel_> Basit: #ubuntu+1 ;)
[14:01] <fidel_> as this channel is always focusing on the current version
[14:01] <arunkumar413> hi, is ubuntu 12.10 released?
[14:01] <fidel_> and #ubuntu+1 on the coming one
[14:01] <Vegancheesesteak> i think this is an apt-get question... what is the command to remove unused old kernel based files? my /boot is getting bloated.
[14:01] <Myrtti> arunkumar413: no set time.
[14:02] <arunkumar413> Myrtti, today is the release date, right?
[14:02] <Myrtti> arunkumar413: yes.
[14:03] <Basit> 12.10 will be launched tomorrow, according to softpedia.com's link: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-10-Is-Now-in-Final-Freeze-Launches-Tomorrow-300194.shtml
[14:03] <fidel_> never trust softpedia ;)
[14:04] <Myrtti> Basit: when was the article published?
[14:04] <fidel_> they write tones of wrong infos about apps theyhavent even talked to the dev or anyone else ... at least thats my experience with them ;)
[14:06] <huggy-bear> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[14:11] <jono> hey
[14:11] <jono> can someone set the topic to: 12.10 Release Party in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:12] <Pici> jono: *poof*
[14:13] <jono> Pici, you rock
[14:13] <jono> as ever :-)
[14:13] <ogra_> thx !
[14:13] <arunkumar413> in how many hours will the new version release
[14:14] <iceroot> arunkumar413: when its done
[14:14] <arunkumar413> iceroot, but today is the release date
[14:14] <kroson> For people here that (plan to) use Ubuntu as main OS and Windows for gaming, what % of your disk do you give to your NTFS partition(s)? Thank you
[14:15] <Odd-rationale> kroson: How large is your drive?
[14:15] <kroson> Odd-rationale: 500 GB
[14:15] <kroson> windows will be only for games, ubuntu for everything else :)
[14:15] <masterfaster> Kardos: 20 Gig for Windows + X Gig for games
[14:15] <marsfligth> How can I avoid that the background output of my croned bash scripts as root aren't saved into the root mail?
[14:16] <kroson> masterfaster: what is X Gig?
[14:16] <masterfaster> kroson: if you have 50 Gig of Games you need 50 Gig :)
[14:16] <iceroot> arunkumar413: and my argument is still valid
[14:17] <kroson> any space? i wanted opions on what that X should be, without being less than needed but also not more
[14:17] <Odd-rationale> kroson: Yeah, depends how much games you have.
[14:17] <iceroot> kroson: we dont know which games you are using, so its your choice about the size
[14:17] <masterfaster> kroson: 10 gigs for a modern game
[14:17] <arunkumar413> iceroot, u mean that it could be postponed
[14:18] <wols> kroson: 20GB for windows is way too small. and games should be on the same partitions as movies, music, etc. aka "whatever is left". hundreds of GBs or even TBs
[14:18] <iceroot> arunkumar413: i mean this channel is for 12.04 and because 12.10 is not released yet and everyone is askinig when does 12.10 comes out, we dont like these kinds of questions because when it is there you will see it because of that "its done when its done"
[14:19] <wols> masterfaster: > /dev/null  in the crontab
[14:19] <wols> kroson: I suggest 100GB for windows and its programs (browsers, office, IDEs,...), 20GB for ubuntu depending how much data you have there and rest for games,movies, etc
[14:19] <awestroke> kroson: for reference, my virtual windows 7 image (compressed, few programs), is 24 GB
[14:20] <the000owl> f
[14:20] <the000owl> f
[14:20] <the000owl> f
[14:20] <FloodBot1> the000owl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <kroson> wols: thank you, i was thinking about something around those sizes too
[14:22] <AcidHaze> ihave an issue : using 12.04 on an asus x401a * Model * where no media cards will mount manually or auto mount i have tried writing in the fstab but still no go
[14:23] <masterfaster> wols: he only wants win for games. i have the same setup and my win7 partition uses 16 gig
[14:23] <Virunga> Hi, is Ubuntu One Music Store available in Europe, specifically in Italy?
[14:23] <Myrtti> Virunga: it works fine in Finland.
[14:24] <Rutz> Hello
[14:24] <awestroke> Hello Rutz
[14:24] <Virunga> Myrtti: did you buy music?
[14:24] <wols> masterfaster: my \windows alone uses 27GB I think. then add pagefile, c:\programs etc. remember: windows "solved" DLL hell by keeping ALL dlls it ever encounters forever and using hardlinks.typically awful MSFT "solution" to a problem. the end result is that \windows always, always increases it's size on disk
[14:24] <Myrtti> Virunga: yes.
[14:24] <Virunga> Myrtti: cool, euros or dollars?
[14:25] <Myrtti> Virunga: euros.
[14:25] <Virunga> That's a nice service.
[14:25] <dArKd3ViL> #ubuntu-release-party is going crazy
[14:25] <Virunga> I'll try it.
[14:25] <Virunga> Myrtti: thanks.
[14:25] <kroson> masterfaster: 16gb is the default install. If you apply updates and install programs it will increase
[14:25] <kroson> the windows folder
[14:26] <wols> kroson: we are very very much OT :)
[14:27] <kroson> wols: we're talking about dual booting xD
[14:27] <Rutz> wow..ther's much traffic in the #ubuntu-release-party .. and here..oh god..this wonderful silence <3 :D
[14:27] <ncopa> hi
[14:28] <ncopa> congrats with 12.10
[14:28] <masterfaster> kroson: i dont know, i checked, its 16 GB including drivers, libreoffice, firefox, gimp2
[14:28] <kroson> masterfaster: i'd say that you installed a lite version
[14:28] <sbietho> Hi, I am having issues compiling a vb.net project with monodevelop, anyone can help?
[14:28] <masterfaster> kroson: nope :)
[14:28] <kroson> but let's leave offtopic and start partying xD
[14:29] <masterfaster> kroson: ha
[14:29] <ncopa> anyone knows if ubuntu 12.10 uses less, more or about the same of memory than 12.04?
[14:29] <ncopa> 12.04 is at the limit on my wifes pc
[14:29] <himanshu_linux> i love ubuntu . :)
[14:29] <ncopa> and i cannot add more ram :-(
[14:29] <kroson> ncopa: around the same
[14:29] <cerrajero> hi
[14:29] <wols> ncopa: new OS rarely uses less...
[14:30] <akis> suddenly my system 12.04 lost the greek names of my files and has unrecognizesd characters and the files cannot be opened. any idea to fix ti?
[14:30] <Rutz> the shit about 12.10 ist, that it does not support unity2d
[14:30] <wols> ncopa: then you need to cut down a few programs she might not need
[14:30] <bazhang> Rutz, no cursing here
[14:30] <RaringOne> !language | Rutz
[14:30] <kroson> if i were to risk 'more or less', i would say less
[14:30] <ncopa> wols: it happens apps does mem optimizing
[14:30] <Myrtti> Rutz: I'm sceptical about your claim, and you can continue that discussion elsewhere
[14:30] <wols> ncopa: sure, but new features need more RAM. no way around that
[14:31] <kroson> ncopa: or use xubuntu xD. Even kde probably will be faster than unity at this stage
[14:31] <Rutz> :D
[14:31] <wols> otoh you could go to top, sort for memory and maybe cut some useless weeds out of that tree
[14:31] <ncopa> tried that
[14:31] <ncopa> and i use xfce myself
[14:31] <dubac0_> !gpg
[14:31] <ncopa> but its for my wife :-/
[14:32] <ncopa> ubuntu used to be ideal for her
[14:32] <zalgor> is there a way to reduce the high number of continuing requests by the print interface (unity/gnome/kde) to cupsserver? Out of technical reason we are using "servername printerserver" and not "servername localhost". Opening a printer selection box is like a DOS-Attack to our cupsserver.
[14:32] <kroson> ncopa: if she likes unity, and LTS works fine, just keep it
[14:32] <huggy-bear> ncopa: if it's for your wife, why not stick to ubuntu 12.04 and unity2d? is there a reason you really need 12.10?
[14:32] <huggy-bear> ncopa: 5 years of support!
[14:33] <ncopa> no, that was my question, actually, should i bother upgrade it...
[14:33] <Artheist> hi all
[14:33] <ncopa> she was not too happy when i upgraded to 12.04
[14:33] <kroson> i believe your wife won't need any of the new features of 12.10, so probably no :)
[14:33] <huggy-bear> ncopa: nope.
[14:33] <caycep> if i do apt-get —no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop, i get unity w/o all the extra apps and the shopping bits?
[14:33] <dr_willis> home users really need 5 years of support?
[14:33] <wols> ncopa: I would wait around 1 maybe 2 months before considering to upgrade to a new ubuntu release. they need the time to fix their bugs
[14:33] <ncopa> yeah
[14:33] <the_dark1knight> why this error when starting apache2ctl http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286999/
[14:33] <ncopa> good idea
[14:33] <wols> dr_willis: yes they do :)
[14:34] <huggy-bear> you will always have the latest firefox and thunderbird, lots of other apps are available through PPAs or elswhere if you really need to upgrade them, so why bother with 12.10?
[14:34] <kroson> ncopa: is she used to windows? if so, you could use kubuntu and personalize it to look & fell more similar to windows
[14:34] <Artheist> I just did an update of my system 12.04, it broke my git package ...
[14:34] <ncopa> and btw, she has asked if its long to next ubuntu release
[14:34] <ncopa> she used windows long time ago
[14:34] <wols> dr_willis: the less stuff changes for my aunt, the better. if it worked, I would want 10 years of support and upgrade only her browser
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello
[14:34] <ncopa> 4-5 years ago
[14:34] <Artheist> does this issue has to do with the 12.10 release today ?
[14:34] <ncopa> been ubuntu since
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I have some big trouble
[14:34] <t4nk803> does anybody know when ubuntu 10.04 LTS is not supported anymore?
[14:34] <t4nk803> I mean the exact date?
[14:34] <geecat> How can i install eclipse 4.1 in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Umm, it won't let me change my Window Stlye.
[14:34] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's stuck on this one only.
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I want to change it to Mac-Style buttons
[14:35] <iceroot> t4nk803: when 13.04 (15.04) will be releases
[14:35] <ncopa> kroson, kubuntu might be an option yes
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[14:35] <JMS32> Hello. My PC on ubuntu freeze. All that i can see is just a black screen. No response to keyboard/mouse. How to know why? It's not first time.
[14:35] <kroson> ncopa: so if she likes the gnome way of using things, personalize gnome fallback for her, or use cinnamon
[14:35] <kroson> or keep unity
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I have some big trouble
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Umm, it won't let me change my Window Stlye.
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[14:35] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I want to change it to Mac-Style buttons
[14:35] <geecat> I tried lot I am able to execute eclipse using ./eclipse but icon doesn't show in the launcher
[14:36] <geecat> can any one help
[14:36] <geecat> ?
[14:36] <kroson> Linux is all about choice. If you can't decide just give her different options for her to try and let her decide
[14:36] <t4nk803> iceroot: No, when 10.04 LTS will not be supported anymore.
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I want to change it to Mac-Style buttons
[14:36] <huggy-bear> t4nk803: all i can see is April 2013
[14:36] <ncopa> i have this love/hate relation with unity. its great for those 1024x600 screens, but requires more mem than those boxes have...
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It won't let me
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> ANYONE?!
[14:36] <FloodBot1> Hishamoto_Masuki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I just need help!
[14:36] <huggy-bear> Hishamoto_Masuki: do you mean the window decoration?
[14:36] <kroson> but, like huggy-bear said, if she doesn't complain about nothing at all, just stay with LTS
[14:36] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Yes Huggy
[14:37] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It will not let me change in Window Manager
[14:37] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It doesn't show the list anymore
[14:37] <huggy-bear> Hishamoto_Masuki: what version?
[14:37] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Latest Xubuntu/
[14:37] <ncopa> yeah, i'll probably let her stay on 12.04 for a few moths at least
[14:37] <ncopa> and see
[14:37] <ncopa> thanks!
[14:37] <JMS32> How to know why my PC freeze?
[14:37] <t4nk803> Now, after April I basically have to upgrade to a newer version? I mean it, won't good to be online if I still use 10.04?
[14:38] <geecat> How can I install eclipse juno manually in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:38] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello?:/
[14:38] <shaneo> hey guys would it be a bad idea to jump the gun and install 12.10
[14:38] <JMS32> Hishamoto_Masuki, hello
[14:38] <kroson> geecat: very easily. Just go to eclipse website, download it
[14:38] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello
[14:38] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Could you help me
[14:38] <ncopa> Hishamoto_Masuki, hi
[14:38] <kroson> and unzip it to wherever you want to have it
[14:38] <Garr255|Mobile> shaneo, I wouldn't
[14:39] <shaneo> :) thats all I needed to hear thanks Garr255|Mobile
[14:39] <marsfligth> How to avoid that the background output of my croned bash scripts as root aren't saved into the root mail?
[14:39] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's too crowded...I'll come later...
[14:39] <huggy-bear> Hishamoto_Masuki: some themes don't allow you to change the button order.
[14:39] <wols> marsfligth: I already told you.  > /dev/null
[14:40] <wols> marsfligth: you can do this for stderr too of course but that's a bad idea
[14:40] <geecat> kroson, i did download the file and extracted but when i run it using "./eclipse", it runs but icon is missing it does not shows up in icon panel
[14:41] <Artheist> Nobody had git package issues today ?
[14:41] <wols> geecat: which JRE?
[14:41] <geecat> let me check
[14:41] <geecat> ?
[14:41] <geecat> wols, 1.7
[14:41] <kroson> geecat: you can run it directly from a file manager, no need to use terminal. As for the icon, you will have to select it somewhere
[14:41] <kroson> *from somewhere
[14:42] <ncopa> thanks all!
[14:42] <wols> geecat: there is no such JRE. the important part is: openjdk or oracle
[14:42] <geecat> kroson, icon is present in the eclipse folder along with the executable
[14:42] <geecat> wols, sorry its oracle
[14:42] <aleste> hi, Does anyone know when will be the release of Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:43] <kroson> geecat: what is the problem you are facing? does the eclipse executable have the eclipse icon on it?
[14:43] <kroson> aleste: today xD. Seriously, no one knows xD
[14:44] <basketballstar> how do i install 12.10
[14:44] <ttgr> hey, any idea how to configure SNMP on Cisco EPC3825 ?
[14:44] <geecat> kroson, no,  two are separate files icon has xmp extension
[14:44] <somsip> !isitout
[14:45] <kroson> geecat: i suppose you want to create a launcher, so create one, in "application" write eclipse, in "icon" write eclipse
[14:46] <geecat> kroson, can you suggest me some url which i can refer to for writing the launcher
[14:46] <kroson> geecat: eclipse has an executable on your PATH, so you don't need to use ./eclipse, just eclipse
[14:46] <alecb> `% dhcpd \ zsh: command not found: dhcpd` wat do? :/
[14:46] <Saip> Where do I get to download Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:47] <alecb> sorry, meant dhcpcd (same problem)
[14:47] <kroson> geecat: i'm not on unity right now, can't remember, but i'd say right-clicking the desktop or something
[14:47] <geecat> kroson,  when i type eclipse i get message that eclipse is not install
[14:47] <kroson> similar
[14:48] <geecat> kroson,  thx for the help i will figure out and try to write launcher
[14:48] <conley> To upgrade, can I just download the torrent now and tell the update manager to use that?
[14:48] <ttgr> if i do snmpwalk to 192.168.0.1 (my CIsco EPC3825) it returns: "no response received", any ideas ?
[14:48] <conley> I doubt ubuntu's servers are going to need any extra load today. Or does update manager use a torrent automatically?
[14:49] <kroson> geecat: ahh sorry, you installed it manually, so it is not in your path.
[14:50] <thienma> morning guys! anyone get silverlight working on linux?
[14:50] <geecat> kroson, yea i tried to include it in my path but that also is not working eclipse is running file the problem is icon, it is not loading up or what i don't understand
[14:51] <iceroot> ttgr: guess its blocked there, see the manual of your router
[14:51] <DJones> !silverlight | thienma
[14:51] <geecat> kroson, i tried creating  eclipse.desktop but that is not working
[14:51] <kroson> geecat: that is strange, it should run without trouble
[14:51] <masterfaster> thienma: it does not work with netflix though
[14:51] <thienma> wait let me rephrase my sentence, anyone knows a fork project for silverlight?
[14:52] <thienma> oh
[14:52] <conley> thienma: because it does not support the drm in silverlight
[14:52] <thienma> oh
[14:52] <geecat> kroson, yea earlier i never faced any problem , i am facing this in unity
[14:52] <masterfaster> thienma: yep drm sucks
[14:52] <allan_> Ohay
[14:52] <thienma> so running virtualmachine for now?
[14:52] <thienma> yeah
[14:52] <kroson> geecat: i don't know what is happening then. Maybe someone with unity and eclipse here has the same problem and can help you
[14:52] <masterfaster> thienma: yep vm
[14:52] <thienma> thanks guys!
[14:52] <conley> masterfaster: clearly it provides a better experience for consumers
[14:52] <allan_> Unity sucks.
[14:53] <masterfaster> conley: yes but no linux support sucks
[14:53] <conley> masterfaster: that was sarcasm ;) drm is shit
[14:53] <masterfaster> conley: haha
[14:53] <geecat> Any one tried installing eclipse manually in Unity(12.04)?
[14:54] <PeoplesAdvocate> nope
[14:54] <iceroot> geecat: why not using the one from the repos?
[14:54] <RaringOne> !language | conley
[14:54] <kroson> geecat: use the version from the repositories
[14:54] <g0bl1n> setting an Online Account makes it available for what ? What is the IM client by default ? Empathy ?
[14:54] <g0bl1n> do the account need to be inserted in the Empathy accounts area also ?
[14:55] <geecat> kroson, repositories is not updated it still has 3.7 but current one is 4.1
[14:55] <marsfligth> wols, thaks for answering, I didn't see your previous, sorry. My scripts are made to save stdout and stderr on a log into /var/log, so, if I send to /dev/null I think that has no sense. Maybe, I can make a script to invoke as first that it croned and stdout sent to /dev/null, then, the croned script will launch another one that save 2>&1 to /var/log. I just verified once more my scripts and abjectly I inserted the 'tee'
[14:55] <marsfligth> command (just an extract: otale.sh 2>&1 | tee /home/), Do you think that is 'tee' to create that unwanted output?
[14:55] <geecat> iceroot, repo has 3.7 but i want to install 4.1
[14:56] <gradeA> clear
[14:56] <zenx> hi i just deleted /etc/sudoers accidentally, and now i dont know how to restore it
[14:56] <zenx> i dont have a root password
[14:56] <zenx> and cant execute sudo
[14:56] <zenx> ...
[14:57] <ovidiu^^> ok so ubuntu 12.10 is out
[14:57] <compdoc> zenx, even a typo in the sudoers file can prevent you from running sudo
[14:57] <deadmund> zenx: boot a live CD, use root on the CD to replace the /etc/sudoers, edit that file to include your user.
[14:57] <compdoc> zenx,  ^
[14:57] <zenx> thanks, thats a good idea
[14:57] <zenx> damn...
[14:57] <zenx> lol
[14:58] <kroson> geecat: i don't know why it doesn't work, but maybe... unity bug? xD
[14:58] <kroson> what features do you need from eclipse 4.1 that are not in 3.7?
[14:59] <kroson> ubuntu 12.10 is in the repositories now!
[15:00] <geecat> kroson, i don't know the difference its the latest so i am trying it all the new version has something new which helps in development
[15:00] <dr_willis> and this is a suprise? ;)
[15:00] <huggy-bear> geecat: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops4/R-4.2.1-201209141800/eclipse-SDK-4.2.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[15:02] <lillo> salve a tutti
[15:03] <geecat> kroson, sorry its not eclipse 4.1 its eclipse 4.2
[15:05] <lawe> Hi, would using dd on Linux make a bootable Windows 8 USB?
[15:05] <dr_willis> lawe:  #windows might know
[15:06] <kroson> geecat: its the same procedure, i don't know why eclipse isn't running at all
[15:06] <wols> marsfligth: what is the full line for one of your scripts in your cron?=
[15:06] <knowj> Does anyone here use Bind9?
[15:06] <kroson> geecat: what is the output of eclipse in terminal?
[15:07] <zalgor> is there a way to reduce the high number of continuing requests by the print interface (unity/gnome/kde) to cupsserver? Out of technical reason we are using "servername printerserver" and not "servername localhost". Opening a printer selection box is like a DOS-Attack to our cupsserver.
[15:08] <dusares> knowj, I do
[15:08] <geecat> kroson, no output it runs normal no error , probably some unity bug
[15:08] <kroson> geecat: if it runs normal in terminal, it HAS to run normal from the GUI
[15:09] <kroson> simply put, double-clicking eclipse in the file manager is the same as writing 'eclipse' in terminal
[15:09] <knowj> dusared: I've just set it up on a devbox for internal domains/dns cache but every so often I try a local domain it doesn't find a result
[15:10] <geecat> kroson, yea thats true its strange that icon is not showing up
[15:10] <knowj> dusared: All external domains work fine but the internal ones don't resolve when apache and bind9 both return status running
[15:10] <dusares> knowj: did you set the search domain correctly in the resolv.conf and did you end all names with a '.'
[15:11] <kroson> geecat: try 3.7 from the repositories, see if it works in unity
[15:11] <marsfligth> wols, in 'sudo crontab -e' I've: '00 */2 * * * nice -18 bash /root/uus.sh' anything else
[15:11] <kroson> it should
[15:11] <buzzinh1> RaringOne, why did you ban me?
[15:11] <geecat> kroson, i tried 3.7 it works
[15:11] <dusares> knowj: what do you get as response when you try to resolve the names on the command line ?
[15:12] <gx> hey guys, i'm looking for the best/most efficient way to delete files from a folder older than 180 days. We're talking almost 80GB in one folder, though. I can't even ls the directory
[15:12] <knowj> dusares: I don't think I touched the resolv.conf :S
[15:12] <linuxman1> Hello. How do I delete read-only files from my USB stick Trashes Directory? I have been Googling it but I havent found a solution yet. I am using UBUNTU 10.04.
[15:12] <geecat> but since 4.2 is not in repo i tried installing it manually and it is not working
[15:12] <dr_willis> gx:  find has options like that
[15:12] <dusares> gx take a look at find
[15:12] <L3top> Does anyone know if there will be a backported precise kernel for lucid? To answer the obvious question, we have too much plumbing to do a full upgrade.
[15:12] <gx> thats what ive been trying to do, but it's just sitting/frozen, due to how many files are in the dir
[15:13] <knowj> dusares: I am accessing the local domain from another machine btw
[15:13] <kroson> geecat: so either ignore unity or eclipse 4.2 :)
[15:13] <gx> the directory has almost 80gb of images in it, that have been accumulating over almost 2 years unnecessarily, id like to setup a cron job to remove older than 180 days, every day
[15:13] <dr_willis> gx:  it may take some time.. no magic tricks will remove that
[15:13] <gx> ok
[15:13] <gx> thanks
[15:14] <gx> find . -name '*.*'  -mtime +180
[15:14] <gx> that's what i'm using, just to get a listing of the files. does that syntax look good? (i'm in the working dir)
[15:14] <dr_willis> make some subdirs, have a cron job sort/move them weekly  ;)
[15:14] <geecat> kroson, i will try some more i will look at other applications and see how they are installed and then try eclipse that way
[15:14] <gx> yeah, thats the plan
[15:14] <jsubl2> t
[15:14] <geecat> kroson, thx for you help
[15:15] <wols> marsfligth: add >/dev/null   your redirections inside will take precedence for your logging
[15:15] <linuxman1> Can anyone help me out, please?
[15:15] <dusares> knowj that should be no problem
[15:15] <ghostcart> Is there any way to get wine windows to show on the view with all the windows?
[15:15] <ghostcart> for ubuntu 12.x
[15:16] <alecb> how can I check what drivers my wifi card is using right now? (ie, if they're the built-in drivers, compiled kernel drivers, vendor drivers, etc)
[15:16] <knowj> dusares: I had my local dns config set to 192.168.0.*, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.8.4 It may have been trying to use one of the Google DNS
[15:16] <ghostcart> I don't know the name of it, it's the view that appears when I press the windows button
[15:16] <deadmund> alecb: You can use sudo lspci -k  and then google the driver names
[15:16] <deadmund> alecb: most likely, they're open source kernel modules.
[15:16] <RaringOne> buzzinh1: join #ubuntu0ops
[15:16] <RaringOne> buzzinh1: join #ubuntu-ops
[15:17] <alecb> deadmund: I might have tried using the vendor drivers but I don't remember if I did a fresh install since then or not
[15:17] <deadmund> alecb: alright.  use sudo lspci -k then
[15:17] <banjolaila> Hey, i'm new to ubuntu. Just installed ubuntu server, and I am having some problems with installing Samba. Could anyone help me?
[15:17] <L3top> alecb: lspci -nnk | grep -iE '(wlan|wireless)'
[15:17] <L3top> alecb: lspci -nnk | grep -iE '(wlan|wireless)' -A3
[15:18] <resetknopje> ;
[15:18] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  give some more details. how are  you installing, and what errors?
[15:18] <z2s8> ovidiu^^: where can download?
[15:18] <mehmet_> heyyy
[15:18] <kroson> Does anyone know if ubuntu blocks telnet client access by default, or is it open?
[15:18] <kroson> so, telnet, as the client
[15:18] <BluesKaj> knowj, if you need to add dns nameservers to resolv.con, that's no longer the correct file , add them to  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , that file writes to resolv.conf now , and just ignore the warning and add your dns IPs as nameserver
[15:19] <banjolaila> Dr_willis i installed it but every time i try to start I type in the admin password and nothing more happens
[15:19] <kroson> sorry, i wanted to mean server
[15:19] <kroson> telnet server
[15:19] <dr_willis> kroson:  theres no telnet server installed by default if thats what you mena
[15:19] <somsip> kroson: closed here
[15:19] <ubuntu-studio> hello!
[15:19] <kroson> somsip: thanks
[15:19] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  try to start what? the samba service should start at boot time automatically
[15:19] <knowj> BluesKaj: I've got my nameservers set within the networking/interfaces and that seems to do the trick
[15:20] <BkD> disconnect
[15:20] <banjolaila> Dr_willis. Oh ok. But how do i config it?
[15:20] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  via the samba config files in /etc/
[15:20] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[15:20] <BluesKaj> knowj, yes that works if you're using network manager
[15:21] <banjolaila> Dr_willis could you elaborate? I'm a total noob
[15:21] <dr_willis> the samba-doc package has like 3 books on configuring samba ;)
[15:21] <deadmund> I have my computer connected to a receiver (a stereo system).  The sound played by music files on the computer is about 10db quieter than the sound from a component CD player through the same receiver / speakers.  If I turn the volume up on the computer the audio gets crackling (I think it's peaking the signal).  What is going on here?
[15:21] <L3top> deadmund: in terminal type alsamixer. Check master and device output levels
[15:22] <banjolaila> Dr_willis Ok, thanks for the help :)
[15:22] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  its a text file you edit in /etc/ if you know 0% about samba its time to read a few beginner guides on it.
[15:22] <knowj> BluesKaj: Is network manger not ideal on a server then?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> deadmund, using the analog connection ?
[15:22] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  why are you using the server edition anyway?
[15:22] <banjolaila> Dr_willis i'm setting up a server at home for media and stuff like that
[15:23] <deadmund> BluesKaj: yes, analog out on the PC (1/8" stereo "headphone" jack) and typical left / right RCA jack into the receiver (I have an adapter cable)
[15:23] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  the desktop edition can do that...
[15:23] <deadmund> L3top: The levels are set to 0db gain
[15:23] <banjolaila> Dr_willis yeaaah... no one told me that lol
[15:23] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  unless you ppperfer a cli only interface
[15:23] <BluesKaj> knowj, well if network manager is working , stick with it
[15:24] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  server had no gui desktop by default is about the only differance in your case
[15:24] <BluesKaj> deadmund, do tou have a digital input on the stereo amp ?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> do you
[15:24] <banjolaila> Dr_willis Ok, i installed the desktop feature anyway.
[15:25] <deadmund> BluesKaj: the receiver has digital input but the PC does not (but the video card has HDMI out)
[15:25] <deadmund> BluesKaj: What does analog / digital matter here?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> deadmund, most audio cards have a digital/coax output , looks like an orange rca analog jack
[15:26] <lowtax> retarded ringtail
[15:26] <dr_willis> banjolaila:  be sure to check out the ubuntu manual also.
[15:26] <carlo> I'm tryin to download ubuntu 12.10 but the speed of download it's just 205 KB/s ?  I used to download .iso file in the blink of an eye before and now it's going so slooow!
[15:27] <dr_willis> !manual > banjolaila
[15:27] <deadmund> BluesKaj: My (onboard audio) does not have digital out.  What does it matter though?  Will using digital out fix the problem?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> deadmund, better audio and more control with the digital
[15:27] <dr_willis> carlo:  use torrents on release day... is the best way
[15:27] <L3top> deadmund: digital is better... and either on or off. Volume is handled at the receiver.
[15:27] <deadmund> BluesKaj: I see.
[15:27] <deadmund> Ahhh
[15:27] <deadmund> instead of having two volume controls
[15:28] <carlo> Does someone got link to torrent file for Ubuntu 12.10 (i386) ? The one on the sites doesn't work.
[15:28] <Zybe> I'm looking for a application to display different "endpoints/units" on my network. I know mac has something called ting or something like that. Is there anything like that for ubuntu?
[15:28] <dr_willis> carlo:  could be its being updated now.
[15:29] <deadmund> thanks for the help guyz
[15:29] <dr_willis> carlo:  today is release day.. so things are chaotic. ;)
[15:29] <fidel_> Zybe: how would you define endpoint/units? network devices like host/printers?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> yup the audio is passed thru to the digital input on the amp prctically unchanged (less processing) and ther dac on the stereo is probly much higher quality than the pc , deadmund
[15:30] <Zybe> fidel_: yes printers firewalls, computers anything that's connected to the network really
[15:30] <fidel_> Zybe: using 'nmap' would be 1 method
[15:30] <dury> hi there all :-)
[15:31] <fidel_> Zybe: which is available for both: osx and linux. never heard of 'ting' or something similar on osx
[15:31] <ArubaDods> hi
[15:31] <ArubaDods> Hi everyone
[15:31] <tottto-drummond> gday all
[15:31] <carlo> dr_willis: yep that's what I thought... is there any possibility of getting torrent file becuase I can't download it from offical website
[15:32] <Zybe> fidel_: a friend told me about ting, he may be totaly wrong to :D
[15:32] <dury> why not screensaver in 12.04.1
[15:32] <ArubaDods> I need help
[15:32] <dr_willis> carlo:  when its officially released it should  be everywhere
[15:32] <fidel_> Zybe: well doent matters at the end. there are tons of network scanners available
[15:32] <carlo> dr_willis: never mind just downloaded this torrent file seems like they fixed the problem :)
[15:33] <tottto-drummond> does someone knows if the problem with ndiswrapper has been fixed with the final release of 12.10
[15:33] <dr_willis> make sure you are not torrenting an old release/beta/rc ;)
[15:33] <fidel_> Zybe: in case of namp a simple start would be: nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 (or whatever matches your network)
[15:34] <dury> is there screensaver in 12.10?
[15:34] <marsfligth> wols: thanks for helping.
[15:34] <ArubaDods> when I insert a second cd after the first one, it does give me files with chinese names is there anyone who knows why
[15:34] <dr_willis> tottto-drummond:  given the huge # of issues ndiswrapper can have with specific hardware differances... you whould have to give more details
[15:34] <dr_willis> dury:  install one if you want
[15:34] <dury> xscreensaver
[15:35] <ArubaDods> I have to restart to be able to see the real files with original names
[15:36] <maxvi> will ubuntu 12.10 be released today?
[15:36] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  actual  chinease/real names? or just really messed up filenames?
[15:36] <tottto-drummond> dr_willis the current problem regarding ndiswrapper is allready well documented on the bug reporting system of launchpad
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> maxvi, That's the scuttlebut.
[15:37] <dury> dr_willis: does it work properly if I'm going to install it... you said: install one... so are there more than one xscreensaver to install
[15:37] <ArubaDods> it looks like chinese not garbage
[15:37] <dr_willis> dury:  the xscreensacer 'system' has dozens of screensacers you can install for it to use
[15:38] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  you are ejecting the cd's ? or how removeing them?
[15:38] <MonkeyDu1t> dury  best way to find out, is by trying
[15:38] <Saip> what time is the ubuntu 12.10 release scheduled?
[15:38] <MonkeyDu1t> Saip  any time now
[15:38] <dr_willis> there is no set time....
[15:38] <ArubaDods> i use the eject button (software)
[15:39] <Saip> Thanks MonkeyDult :)
[15:39] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  try the 'eject' command from a terminal
[15:39] <alecb> alright, so I did what the realtek site said to do to install their drivers, but the lspci output hasn't changed (it's still rtl8192ce). does this mean it didn't work? or might they just be calling their driver the same thing?
[15:40] <dury> MonkeyDust: can you assist me to install it properly?
[15:41] <lowtax> why would lspci change
[15:41] <dury> MonkeyDust: I'm using 12.04.1
[15:41] <ArubaDods> which is the eject command?
[15:41] <dr_willis> dury:  ive seen guides on setting up xscreensaver on the omgubuntu!, or webupd8  blog sites
[15:41] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  'eject' is the command....
[15:41] <lowtax> too many noobs
[15:41] <lowtax> use ubuntu
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> dury  fastest and easiest is a fresh install - backup first, if you don't have a separate /home
[15:41] <ArubaDods> hahaha...thanks
[15:41] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  open terminal.. type eject ;)
[15:42] <ikonia> lowtax: I'm sorry what ?
[15:42] <Furai> Is there going to be booze at the party?
[15:42] <ikonia> lowtax: tone it down please, the name calling is not welcome, or needed
[15:42] <MickStep> Hi, probably about once eveyr 2-3 days my always on pc crashes, like instant crash from which all I can do is switch it off and on, even alt-shift-print screen RSEIUB fails to reboot it.
[15:42] <MickStep> I suspect this is a hardware fault, any idea how I can diagnose the problem?
[15:42] <lowtax> ikonia: is there a non support channel
[15:42] <carlo> dr_willis: it's beta release <facepalm> so I think I need to download it with slow speed like everyone else...
[15:42] <BluesKaj> alecb,  sudo modprobe rtl8192ce , if there's not output from the command then the driver is loaded
[15:42] <ikonia> lowtax: none for you to rant and name call in
[15:42] <dury> MonkeyDust: what you mean separate /home ?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> lowtax  #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:42] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: NO
[15:42] <lowtax> MonkeyDust: thanks
[15:42] <dr_willis> carlo:  err.. its not released yet.. i think....
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  sorry, havent followed
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> sorry, really
[15:43] <ArubaDods> it says unable to find or open device for: 'cdrom'
[15:43] <dr_willis> MickStep:  ssh in, monitor logs
[15:43] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  weird. try eject /dev/sr0
[15:44] <MickStep> dr_willis: do you mean after the crash occurs or upon reboot?
[15:44] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  or 'sudo eject'
[15:44] <dury> MonkeyDust: what you mean separate when you saying... backup ... /home ?
[15:44] <dr_willis> MickStep:  in realtime befor it crashes
[15:44] <dury> MonkeyDust: sorry
[15:44] <carlo> dr_willis: it's now. just visited ubuntu website and download again the torrent file and it seems like this is the right one :) finally
[15:44] <ArubaDods> ok eject /dev/sr0 works
[15:44] <ArubaDods> thanks
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> dury  if you have a separate /home, you can more easily fresh install
[15:44] <L3top> dury: he means on its own partition
[15:44] <dr_willis> ArubaDods:  /dev/cdrom is normally a link to /dev/sr0
[15:45] <g0bl1n> I added online accounts, but opening Empathy doesn't show them. Do I have to manually insert those accounts again on Empathy ?
[15:45] <MickStep> OK, I see what you mean, which logs specifically should I monitor?
[15:45] <L3top> dury: so it remains untouched when you reinstall on the main partition, and you just point to it during install.
[15:45] <ArubaDods> ok I insert the cd back it gives me the real files on it, thanks a lot
[15:46] <somsip> It does look like the torrents are live http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[15:46] <dury> MonkeyDust, L3 top: "df -h" ->command to check that
[15:46] <dr_willis> MickStep:  look in /var/log perhaps kern.log, dmesg, mayby others
[15:46] <ikonia> somsip: please don't post that stuff
[15:46] <somsip> ikonia: really? ok
[15:46] <MickStep> thanks for your help dr_willis
[15:47] <ikonia> yes, it's not been released.....there is a reason people aren't giving that information out until it's released,
[15:47]  * dr_willis waits for the actual  official release anouncement....
[15:47]  * MonkeyDust has the ubuntu page open
[15:47] <dr_willis> hititing reload every 5 sec?
[15:47] <dr_willis> ;)
[15:47] <dury> MonkeyDust, L3top: "df -h" ->command to check that
[15:48] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, are we there yet ? :)
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> dury  use sudo fdisk -l to get an idea of partitions
[15:48] <edve> anyone here knows SQUID ?
[15:48] <Praxi> wth my chrome keeps closing
[15:49] <L3top> !anyone | edve
[15:50] <jeremyst> what is the best way to setup ubuntu as an access point? my wii cannot detect ubuntu hotspot.
[15:50] <L3top> !pm | edve
[15:50] <dury> MonkeyDust: after    sudo fdisk -l ?
[15:50] <bencc> is there ETA for gnomebuntu? http://gnomebuntu.org/
[15:51] <jeremyst> what is the best way to setup ubuntu as an access point? my wii cannot detect ubuntu hotspot.
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> dury  that's for a first impression
[15:51] <edve> How can I keep my squid log historic for like 60 days ?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> !partition > dury
[15:51] <dury> all right
[15:52] <jeremyst> what is the best way to setup ubuntu as an access point? my wii cannot detect ubuntu hotspot.
[15:53] <varikonniemi> how safe is the update process to 12.10 for other installed os:es? Namely, is it any way that something could go wrong so that the data on windows partition gets lost?
[15:54] <JMS32> How to set maximum FPS in string like v4l:///dev/video0 ?
[15:55] <Guest26731> varikonniemi what is the upgrade path
[15:55] <varikonniemi> 12.04->12.10
[15:56] <Insomn1a> vari i dont see any problem with upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, however, I myself prefer to stay on LTS releases
[15:56] <L3top> edve: see if this is helpful to you http://etutorials.org/Server+Administration/Squid.+The+definitive+guide/Chapter+13.+Log+Files/13.7+Rotating+the+Log+Files/
[15:56] <varikonniemi> i would only on commercial servers limit myself to staying lts
[15:57] <Insomn1a> it will not interfere with any windows partitions currently installed on the system
[15:58] <Insomn1a> it might update the grub bootloader, but that being said grub will still allow you the option to boot into your windows environment
[15:58] <L3top> I prefer stability over "new thing" varikonniemi. If I wanted to reinstall every few months I would still be on windows.
[15:58] <Insomn1a> lol
[15:59] <varikonniemi> LOL, i have not had any problems since i ditched fedora 15 alpha (which was the distro i started my linux career on) so you are exaggerating quite a bit
[15:59] <varikonniemi> err, i have had problems, but not so that i have had to reinstall
[16:00] <Insomn1a> what are you afraid of happening when you upgrade vari
[16:00] <Insomn1a> that you will lose your windows partition?
[16:01] <Night_Owl> 188.165.95.115:10300
[16:02] <ArubaDods> is there a command line for stitching videos together?
[16:02] <somsip> ArubaDods: what kinds of videos - what codec/extension?
[16:02] <ArubaDods> I know the one cat
[16:03] <ArubaDods> hmmm...mp4
[16:03] <codemaniac> !factoid
[16:03] <excalibr> it's out!
[16:03] <somsip> ArubaDods: I have used ffmpeg and converted to something else, then used cat, and joined them banck. Faffy but it worked
[16:04] <dury> there will be xcreensaver in 12.10
[16:04] <somsip> *converted them back...
[16:04] <ArubaDods> ok, I will try that one, thanks for the info
[16:04] <Wipster> hey all, when I do 'top' in my new 12.04.1 server install my load is 1, however I dont see a process in the table with a cpu over 2%, where is this load coming from?
[16:04] <dury> yes or not?
[16:04] <prashant_123456> what files are needed to make a bootable pen drive ubuntu
[16:04] <CupOfCocoa> Hey everyone, just installed ubuntu but I get some really weird error when trying to run an executable: http://pastebin.com/YrS0mUwM what am I missing?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | dury
[16:05] <somsip> !info xscreensaver | dury
[16:05] <somsip> dury - still 12.04 info here...Surprised if it's not though
[16:05] <ArubaDods> sorry I am new here, how do you send a message in red color to me?
[16:05] <dury> all right
[16:05] <dury> thanks
[16:05] <somsip> !who | ArubaDods
[16:05] <dileep> object doesn't support this action error wine
[16:06] <_Trullo> what is best, tracker or beagle?
[16:06] <somsip> !best | _Trullo
[16:06] <_Trullo> what a useless tip somsip.
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> _Trullo:keep polite here
[16:07] <codemaniac> !bestbot
[16:08] <_Trullo> he could have told me, tracker is good for searching for files, beagle is good when you want to search for content in files
[16:08] <_Trullo> I'm going with tracker
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> _Trullo:be happy someone wants to help you
[16:08] <ArubaDods> !who | somsip Ok thanks
[16:08] <somsip> _Trullo: you have your own answer. Great. The factoid worked :)
[16:08] <G__81> is 12.10 released ?
[16:08] <ArubaDods> !somsip thanks
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | G__81
[16:09] <somsip> !tab | ArubaDods
[16:09] <_Trullo> well, it's bad when you get help on google faster than in a channel with humans :/
[16:09] <ArubaDods> !somsip
[16:09] <dr_willis> not really _Trullo
[16:09] <jrib> _Trullo: hmm, pretty sure tracker searches inside files too
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> _Trullo:if you like google why come ask here?
[16:09] <ArubaDods> I dont know, I will keep trying here
[16:09] <somsip> ArubaDods: just put som{press tab} and wall will be good
[16:10] <ArubaDods> ok
[16:10] <G__81> lotuspsychje: is it getting released today ?
[16:11] <seednode> In theory
[16:11] <ArubaDods> ! somsip now
[16:11] <ArubaDods> ! somsip | ok
[16:11] <somsip> ArubaDods: using ! only works to get the bot to say something. So !bot | ArubaDods would get the bot to address the 'bot' factoid to you
[16:11] <_Trullo> lotuspsychje, I prefer asking experts than wading through 100 of differents answers on google :/
[16:11] <D3RGPS31> does a dist upgrade involve installing packages that were uninstalled after installation :v
[16:12] <ArubaDods> somsip, oh ok
[16:12] <genii-around> D3RGPS31: It can, if you removed packages which were Suggested or Recommended originally.
[16:13] <somsip> ArubaDods: yay :)
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> _Trullo:the experts recommended you there's no such thing as best software
[16:13] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | D3RGPS31
[16:13] <Jimster480-Lapto> hey guys, whats an easy way to get a "script" (its really 1 line) to be run when i login, but it requires root?
[16:13] <D3RGPS31> !upgrade
[16:13] <jrib> Jimster480-Lapto: what script?
[16:13] <D3RGPS31> thank you :v
[16:14] <Jimster480-Lapto> i need to set the xorg-radeon-driver to low power, bceause it sucks at power/fan management on my card and it overheats my laptop to 80C on idle
[16:14] <lnwlf2121> Jimster480-Lapto, there are a number of ways to do this... the end solution being one that bypasses the issue... but... again, lots of ways...
[16:15] <CupOfCocoa> Anyone? http://pastebin.com/YrS0mUwM
[16:15] <ArubaDods> somsip, oh ok now I get it, finally. thanks for you patience :)
[16:15] <somsip> ArubaDods: yr welcome
[16:15] <Jimster480-Lapto> so i need to do echo "low" < /sys/class/card0/device/power_profile
[16:16] <ArubaDods> ubottu, thanks for your patience also :)
[16:16] <prashant_123456> bootable pen drive by just copying some files from a bootable media
[16:16] <pulb> hey guys! is ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso  on the releases.* domain the final image?
[16:16] <tsimpson> pulb: when you see the announcement on www.ubuntu.com, that's when it's final
[16:16] <somsip> CupOfCocoa: permissions?
[16:16] <devjustforfun_> \join mysql
[16:17] <devjustforfun_> \join #mysql
[16:17] <jrib> devjustforfun_: / not \
[16:17] <JMS32>  How to set maximum FPS in string like v4l:///dev/video0 ?
[16:17] <dr_willis> try a / devjustforfun_
[16:18] <schreber> When is the 12.10 iso supposed to be released, I've checked some mirrors and I've only seen src
[16:18] <jrib> pulb: 12.10 hasn't been officially released yet
[16:18] <jilebedev> Hi hi - are there alternative methods to mounting a physical hdd automatically after reboot beside the standard modifying of /etc/fstab?
[16:18] <dr_willis> JMS32: you sure thats even doable?
[16:18] <CupOfCocoa> somsip: set to chmod 777
[16:18] <Jimster480-Lapto> JMS you would use the echo command
[16:18] <jrib> pulb, schreber: #ubuntu-release-party if you want to party while you wait :D
[16:18] <dr_willis> jilebedev:  mount command in rc.local or an autofs service
[16:19] <CupOfCocoa> and even then I should only get a permission error not a not found
[16:19] <lnwlf2121> Jimster480-Lapto, so... just on boot right? not when you login to xwindows?
[16:19] <djzn> delay on release?
[16:19] <Jimster480-Lapto> well it can be when i login to x
[16:19] <Jimster480-Lapto> since i mean its a xorg driver so.... xD
[16:19] <lnwlf2121> sudo crontab -e
[16:19] <lnwlf2121> add
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a decent gnucash alternative
[16:19] <lnwlf2121> @reboot echo "low" > blah blah blah
[16:19] <Jimster480-Lapto> kk thanks
[16:20] <[1]Jeff> Anyone have any advice on a tzdata bug on lucid that prevents dpkg from installing anything?
[16:21] <lnwlf2121> Jimster480-Lapto, or really : @reboot echo "low" < /sys/class/card0/device/power_profile
[16:21] <JMS32> dr_willis: nope. But i have a hope in that
[16:21] <Jimster480-Lapto> i got it thanks!
[16:21] <lnwlf2121> also, you could put the script in /etc/rc3.d
[16:21] <Jimster480-Lapto> never used crontab in ubuntu
[16:22] <djzn> when is it released
[16:22] <Jimster480-Lapto> ive only ever used it in CentOS and Fedora for servers
[16:23] <JMS32> dr_willis: it's impossible?..
[16:23] <alecb> how can I check if vendor wifi drivers have been installed/are being used correctly?
[16:24] <Jimster480-Lapto> for how much longer will 10.04 be supported?
[16:24] <lnwlf2121> alecb, check the output of dmesg
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> alecb:if it works :p
[16:24] <dr_willis> JMS32: no idea. id search for  v4l docs and examples. insread if asking hiw to do somthing that may not even be doable on irc
[16:24] <lnwlf2121> alecb, which should also be recorded in /var/log/messages
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> alecb:what card brand are you looking for?
[16:25] <lnwlf2121> alecb, it will tell you releases and copyrights and yadada yadada
[16:25] <sturmi> Jimster480-Lapto: Until April 2013
[16:26] <Jimster480-Lapto> kk thx
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> oldskool lillo
[16:26] <Jimster480-Lapto> i think im going to point my repos there so that i can do some updates
[16:26] <fungus> Jimster480-Lapto, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[16:26] <JMS32> dr_willis i'm a;ready found. But it won't work
[16:26] <mikecc> hey guys, update manager yesterday told me that the nvidia driver has been updated. so i did it, and now when i go to use the NVIDIA display manager to detect my external monitor, it says my driver isn't new enough. should i revert back? any other ideas?
[16:26] <alecb> lotuspsychje: I'm hving wifi problems -- don't know if it's in spite of vendor drivers or if they're installed but not helping
[16:27] <lnwlf2121> alecb, maybe /var/log/syslog
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> alecb:please tell us what wifi card you haveing?
[16:27] <Jimster480-Lapto> thansk fungus i know LTS, i just forgot how long they were supported. Ive had ubuntu installed on atleast one of my machines since 2005
[16:27] <lnwlf2121> alecb, linux distros get confusing :P
[16:27] <fungus> Jimster480-Lapto, yes, that page shows detailed support timelines.
[16:27] <fungus> including the info you requested.
[16:27] <alecb> lotuspsychje: I have a realtek 8188CE
[16:28] <sturmi> Can I just install Ubuntu on a SSD (Crucial M4) or do I have to make some kind of special adjustments?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> alecb:i think many realtek drivers are listen on their website
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> sturmi:set ahci to bios
[16:28] <noiro> sturmi, just put the / partition on it
[16:29] <sturmi> noiro: I'm going to make a clean install so I would just tell the installer to chose the SSD, that should do trick or?
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> sturmi:if BIOS is set to ACHI, it will detect your ssd fine
[16:29] <sturmi> lotuspsychje: okay thanks. I think it's already set to AHCI
[16:30] <Sove> After reading guides from multiple sources, i'm still a bit undure about installing from USB drive
[16:30] <sturmi> lotuspsychje: but I'm checking it before installation
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> sturmi:i think ubuntu is already optimized for ssd trim
[16:30] <edve> edve
[16:30] <lcabreza> hi guys, quick question. i want to upgrade my hard drive from 320GB to 500GB. How can i copy all the partition and files w/out reinstalling?
[16:30] <Sove> Do I just put the ISO there, set boot order and it's good to go
[16:31] <alecb> not realy sure what I'm looking for in the dmesg output?
[16:31] <alecb> (sorry, just got dropped from wifi)
[16:31] <alecb> what am I looking for in the dmesg output?
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Sove:you need to unpack the iso on the usb, with software so it makes the usb bootable
[16:31] <Jimster480-Lapto> 1 sec lcabreza, ill get you the command. YOu want to copy from one drive to another one right? the partition and all?
[16:32] <Sove> And such softeware would be
[16:32] <lnwlf2121> alecb: dmesg|grep <wifi device name, like... wan0 or whatever>
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> lcabreza:there are several clone packages around
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Sove:what Os are you on now?
[16:32] <Sove> Windows 7
[16:32] <lcabreza> Jimster480-Lapto: yes that's right ..
[16:32] <jcrza> you guys tried the new release yet?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Sove:we cant support win7 lol
[16:32] <jcrza> thinking about upgrading my desktop
[16:32] <lcabreza> lotuspsychje: i want to make sure i choose the best one ..
[16:33] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabreza: check out this link http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> !info clonezilla
[16:33] <Sove> Well, I need to b able to install ubuntu >_>
[16:33] <Jimster480-Lapto> it explains how to use dd to copy your partition over. It works wonders, I did it with this laptop that im using right now.
[16:33] <Jimster480-Lapto> you dont need clonezilla lotuspsychje. You can use dd just fine, its pretty simple if you read the short instructions.
[16:34] <lcabreza> Jimster480-Lapto: Thanks, my objective here, so that when i plug it back to my laptop i don't have to reconfigure again. it's just replace the hard drive..
[16:34] <anomaly> I have ssmtp setup, where root is sending emails without issue.  what am I missing, because I can not send email as a user.  I get the error "send-mail: Cannot open mailhub:25"
[16:34] <L3top> clonezilla ftw... dd is a brilliant tool... but if you don't do it right, it can destroy your data.
[16:34] <alecb_> what am I looking for in the dmesg output? (not trying to spam, connection getting dropped so often I don't know what's going through and what's not)
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Sove:on ubuntu you can use the usb tool, but plz join ##windows for usb tools/iso
[16:34] <Jimster480-Lapto> yea all you need to do is connect both drives in some fashion, and then dd from one drive to the other drive. Then you can put the new drive in your laptop and it will work as if nothing has happened.
[16:35] <Sove> Oh well, found a software to do that already
[16:35] <lcabreza> Jimster480-Lapto: thats great..exactly what i needed ...Thanks bro ..
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> Sove:you made a good choice for sure to install ubuntu
[16:35] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabreza: no problem man
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> L3top:how can it destroy
[16:36] <L3top> lotuspsychje: its nickname is "disk destroyer". google it.
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> L3top:lets see
[16:37] <alecb_> what am I looking for in the dmesg output? (not trying to spam, connection getting dropped so often I don't know what's going through and what's not)
[16:37] <lcabreza> Jimster480-Lapto: quick inquiry, after copying, will it allocate only the space on the old drive and then other remaining space as unallocated ?
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> L3top:you mean the zero commands and such
[16:38] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabreza: you can choose these options i believe. You can format the other drive first and then copy the data over.
[16:38] <lcabreza> Jimster480-Lapto:lets say , from 320GB to 500GB will it use only the 320 of 500 and leave the other 180 as empty or free space
[16:39] <lcabreza> Jimster480-Lapto:ok, what about it's partition table ? does it going to be automatic ..
[16:39] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabreza: you should be able to format the 500 and then copy the data, if it will overwrite and give you 320? I'm not sure, but if it does you can use a pratition manager to expand your partition to the whole drive.
[16:39] <L3top> wrong if of... 0... wrong block size... just all sorts of issues that result in failure if not outright destruction for newbs I find clonezilla to be just fantastic at without much risk... as well as the ability to run over network easily etc... It is fast, and clean. That was all I was saying.
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> L3top:i agree on the gui easy part of clonezilla
[16:40] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabreza: it has been a while since i cloned a drive, but dd is very specific. Either way if it does you can just expand the partition after it has been copied over.
[16:41] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabreza: there are all kinds of tutorials that explain how to do it, and its only a few simple commands. I used to do it on my enterprise servers all the time.
[16:41] <lcabreza>  Jimster480-Lapto: great..i'll give it a try ..
[16:41] <Jimster480-Lapto> lcabraza: and the drives were all sorts of sizes.
[16:42] <L3top> lotuspsychje: I really like the easy ability to traverse the network to clone or drop images... but we are offtopic.
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> L3top:does that work for cloning huge data hd's too from one to another in ubuntu?
[16:44] <L3top> as long as your destination drive is of equal size yes.
[16:44] <L3top> not exactly in ubuntu though... it is a live disk
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> L3top:also if its not system drive, like just a file hd 1tb to 1tb?
[16:45] <L3top> yes lotuspsychje.
[16:45] <Jimster480> there is also the gparted distrobution lol
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> L3top:cool to know tnx
[16:45] <Jimster480> i used that one a few times for our enterprise SCCI drives years ago
[16:45] <L3top> It will clone individual partitions or whole disks
[16:45] <NoBlueTooth> Hello all, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and trying to setup a bluetooth headset, the device has paired but not showing up in sound prefencies. I followed the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset that didn't work either any suggestions?
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> L3top:got an idea what speed it would clone a 1tb?
[16:46] <L3top> allows me to do stupid destructive things to my system, because a restore is just 15 min away
[16:46] <lcabreza> i have another question, im sure you can help me. after doing an rdesktop-vrdp on a ubuntu desktop. i won't be able to connect again. what could be the issue here? the temp solution is to reboot
[16:46] <lnwlf2121> while we're on the topic of clonezilla, I seem to remember there was a way to take live backups of servers without them going down... like... via dd and nc and the recover them from baremetal via clonezilla
[16:46] <L3top> A full 1tb would take some time.... cloning is longer than restoring... and it depends on whether the drive was local or over the network I would guess.
[16:46] <lnwlf2121> is that right?
[16:46] <leifmadsen> afternoon all -- I have an ubuntu 12.04 server in a VM spun up by vagrant. When the machine spins up, it obtains it's nameservers via eth0, but I'd like to configure it to pull from eth1 (since that is the bridged interface). Any suggestsions?
[16:46] <codemaniac> !gender
[16:46] <lcabreza> NoBlueTooth:you need to install the bluetooth manager and then right click on your headset and click audio sink
[16:47] <CyberPerk> I just did a clean install from CD a 12.04.1 LTS, the install program did not find a network connection but I installed anyway hoping the install would find the network. It did not.  any help?
[16:47] <lnwlf2121> dd if=/dev/sda|pv|nc mybackupserver <myport>
[16:47] <NoBlueTooth> lcabreza is that blueman? or something different?
[16:47] <alecb> just tried installing vendor drivers for wifi card instead of built-in kernel modules -- how do I check if I'm actually using the vendor drivers
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> L3top:ok tnx mate
[16:47] <lnwlf2121> something like this?
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> souper time here
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> !realtek
[16:47] <acolytetojippity> did i read somewhere that 12.10 Quantal dropped today?
[16:47] <lcabreza> NoBlueTooth: yes blueman manager v1.23
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> alecb:read that url mate
[16:48] <NoBlueTooth> I installed the latest via apt-get when I right click on headset, I do not see any "audio sink" option
[16:49] <Jimster480> yea lnwlf2121, we used to do live backups of servers years ago, but idr if we were using dd or not. My server admin was taking care of that at the time.
[16:49] <L3top> some time today yes acolytetojippity. Not sure if it has yet or not.
[16:49] <Maxstyvason> hey today is the release date for 12.10 correct?
[16:49] <ZahnPastor> yes....
[16:49] <D3RGPS31> Maxstyvason: yes
[16:49] <islandmonkey> Yes
[16:49] <Maxstyvason> awesome
[16:49] <ZahnPastor> and we are waiting....
[16:49] <lcabreza> NoBlueTooth: what version of headset you have ?
[16:49] <ZahnPastor> and waiting...
[16:49] <Maxstyvason> ill get my backups going then
[16:49] <acolytetojippity> @L3top how does one go about upgrading?  i have 12.04 atm.
[16:49] <ZahnPastor> for hours...
[16:50] <acolytetojippity> do you need to do a new instal?
[16:50] <Maxstyvason> my backups wont be done until tomorrow so its a non issue for me
[16:50] <lcabreza> NoBlueTooth: try turning it off and back on and then search again > sometimes you have to remove and pair it again
[16:50] <Maxstyvason> acolytetojippity: probably not but I always do
[16:50] <NoBlueTooth> Not sure, however I just clicked refresh services and got "the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus secuirty policy blocked the reply"
[16:50] <ZahnPastor> ...and again waiting...
[16:50] <NoBlueTooth> I googled this in the past and got no where
[16:50] <L3top> acolytetojippity: WHEN there is a release, you should be able to sudo do-release-upgrade I believe
[16:50] <dury> Maxstyvason: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:50] <Maxstyvason> so yes thanks for the info, sorry for a queston thats probably been asked 10 million times already
[16:51] <acolytetojippity> ok, cool.  I guess i'll just wait until it's ready.  thanks!
[16:51] <totem> hmmm coffee, www.kopiluwak.org
[16:51] <No_Internet> I just did a clean install from CD a 12.04.1 LTS, the install program did not find a network connection but I installed anyway hoping the install would find the network. It did not.  any help?
[16:51] <Maxstyvason> same here I dont mind waiting an extra day or so
[16:51] <Maxstyvason> get it done right
[16:52] <NoBlueTooth> I tried repairing + changing usb ports for the dongle
[16:52] <Maxstyvason> I have to backup EVERYTHING anyway its been a few releases since ive done a clean install
[16:52] <NoBlueTooth> I tested the headset and it works with my mobile phone
[16:52] <Maxstyvason> should I upgrade to 64 bit yet?
[16:52] <Maxstyvason> 32 bit sees all my ram just fine btw
[16:52] <bazhang> Maxstyvason, reinstall you mean
[16:52] <Maxstyvason> yes I have to things are messy
[16:52] <Jimster480> 64 bit is great. You should def use 64 bit if you are ron any system from the last 4 years imho.
[16:53] <Maxstyvason> my etc folder is cluttered
[16:53] <bazhang> wonder if I can cat ubuntu.iso > usb flash stick
[16:53] <Maxstyvason> janitor crashes when trying to clean things out :-P
[16:54] <Maxstyvason> I love how you can just click a switch and turn off amazon kudos for making that a simple "click and done" feature
[16:54] <Maxstyvason> although I use amazon for EVERYTHING I buy now adays so its a non issue
[16:54] <alecb> I don't understand option 2 in that realtek link... what is it actually saying to do?
[16:55] <Maxstyvason> im serious I get toilet paper, and paper towels delivered to my house I hate shopping
[16:55] <Maxstyvason> some will hate on Ubuntu for amazon, I say thanks for making my day one step easier
[16:56] <No_Internet> amazon can be turned off, correct?
[16:56] <Maxstyvason> yes
[16:56] <Maxstyvason> in the control center under privacy
[16:56] <jrib> !adlens
[16:56] <ctaloc> hello!
[16:56] <Maxstyvason> (I polayed with the beta in virtualbox)
[16:57] <alecb> err, ok, so, I just tried to install vendor drivers for my realtek 8188CE wifi card -- how do I check if they actually installed properly/are being used
[16:57] <ctaloc> I'm so excited, I cant deny it (8)
[16:57] <Maxstyvason> im not excited anymore
[16:57] <jrib> ctaloc: #ubuntu-release-party
[16:58] <Maxstyvason> after 8 years is it now? I sort of expect it
[16:58] <carlo> guys what's the best RSS reader for Ubuntu ? What would u recommend me?
[16:58] <jrib> let's get back on the topic of support here :)
[16:58] <jrib> carlo: BestBot can tell you what people like
[16:58] <jrib> !best | carlo
[16:58] <wojtek> is 12.10 released?
[16:58] <L3top> bazhang: I would expect that to put a file *.iso on the drive... but you can dd it.
[16:58] <jrib> wojtek: no
[16:58] <k1l_> wojtek: sit and wait in #ubuntu-release-party  to be announced
[16:59] <NoBlueTooth> in blueman I just got "Page Timeout"
[16:59] <hwhomeworld> hit o all
[16:59] <NoBlueTooth> is it worth reinstall bluez?
[16:59] <hwhomeworld> has anyone tried instlaling ubuntu using the vmware player
[17:00] <bekks> hwhomeworld: I bet someone did.
[17:00] <L3top> Yes you can install ubuntu in vmware, or virtualbox, or KVM-Qemu hwhomeworld
[17:00] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: have you tried installing some of the bluetooth firmware?
[17:00] <hwhomeworld> thought so.
[17:00] <carlo> ubottu: Ok thanks for the tips!
[17:00] <NoBlueTooth> I'll be honest I did apt-get install blue* when things wasn't working i have all the blues packages
[17:01] <Deivid> Avoid the pain
[17:01] <Deivid> of Windows 8.
[17:01] <Deivid> The all-new Ubuntu 12.10 is out now.
[17:01] <Deivid> Get Ubuntu 12.10
[17:01] <FloodBot1> Deivid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <ac_> 12.10 iss available !!!
[17:02] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: but I think you might need some of the firmware-* packages.
[17:02] <codemaniac> is checkpoint vpn client is available for ubuntu?
[17:02] <bekks> codemaniac: As the vendor, thats not GPL'ed :)
[17:02] <NoBlueTooth> huggy-bear do you know which ones i'll need?
[17:02] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: what is the device in question?
[17:03] <bekks> codemaniac: *ask even.
[17:03] <NoBlueTooth> the bluetooth dongle or headset
[17:03] <codemaniac> bekks: is it available for free download and use?
[17:03] <bekks> codemaniac: Ask the vendor - Checkpoint. :)
[17:03] <codemaniac> ok thanks bekks
[17:03] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: what company?
[17:04] <NoBlueTooth> USB Dongle, Belkin FBT009   Headset, Tritron 90700
[17:04] <xubuntu115> i have uninstalled and reinstalled xserver
[17:04] <alecb> I just tried to install vendor drivers for my realtek 8188CE wifi card -- how do I check if they actually installed properly/are being used
[17:05] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: about your belkin thingie: I just googled a forum post where someone said it didn't work in 2009
[17:06] <NoBlueTooth> did they say it didn't work with a fix? or ..
[17:07] <DX099> hello, how do I disable all my ppas ? do I also have to uninstall everything that comes from a ppa ?
[17:07] <theadmin> DX099: You don't have to, but it is a good idea as you won't get updates for such software anymore
[17:08] <alecb> I just tried to install vendor drivers for my realtek 8188CE wifi card -- how do I check if they actually installed properly/are being used
[17:08] <DX099> theadmin, is the "Y-my-ppa" (or smth like) software a good way to do so ,
[17:08] <DX099> ?
[17:08] <theadmin> DX099: Not even sure what that is
[17:09] <theadmin> DX099: You can use ppa-purge to remove PPAs and simply use apt-get to remove software
[17:09] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: apparently there are no drivers for it :(
[17:09] <DX099> and by the way thanks for the advice yesterday, dd worked just fine. t
[17:09] <theadmin> DX099: Oh, good to hear
[17:09] <NoBlueTooth> its weird how the device pairs though
[17:09] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: but it's old news. as for your headset, can't find any info on it. but you can read this, maybe it will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[17:09] <NoBlueTooth> I tried that
[17:10] <NoBlueTooth> even the steps for the ubuntu 9 (the second bit)
[17:10] <NoBlueTooth> fails to start the modules
[17:10] <DX099> theadmin, I know but how do I check which software comes from ppa and so on ?
[17:11] <dalton2345> hello everyone, anyone know of a program like mpd but for videos, so i can manage the playlist?
[17:11] <theadmin> DX099: I'm not too sure of that.
[17:11] <DX099> theadmin, ok, I'll just try with synaptic
[17:12] <alecb> I just tried to install vendor drivers for my realtek 8188CE wifi card -- how do I check if they actually installed properly/are being used? (sorry if spam, not sure if my messages are going through at all)
[17:12] <alecb> I just tried to install vendor drivers for my realtek 8188CE wifi card -- how do I check if they actually installed properly/are being used? (sorry if spam, not sure if my messages are going through at all)
[17:12] <g105b> I'd like help with Ubuntu 21.10, the latest version.
[17:12] <jrib> g105b: are you from the future?
[17:12] <g105b> jrib: no, 21.10 is the current stable version
[17:12] <islandmonkey> g105b: Is it really 2021?
[17:13] <g105b> https://help.ubuntu.com/ there, 21.10
[17:13] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: how does it fail to start the modules? can you give me the error?
[17:13] <jrib> g105b: ha
[17:13] <NoBlueTooth> Failure: Module initalisation failed
[17:14] <NoBlueTooth> it happened when trying to run "pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=btheadset
[17:15] <huggy-bear> NoBlueTooth: could be that you are missing that module. not sure
[17:15] <Ikarus_> hello
[17:15] <wojtek> what was the name of release party channel?
[17:16] <valnour> g105b: funny! looks like someone transposed some digits
[17:16] <kroson_> someone update the topic xD
[17:16] <dubac0_> gimp save as jpg png or jpeg ? how to?
[17:16] <Ikarus_> does any one know why i have a username and password prompt when i just instaled unbuntu?
[17:17] <theadmin> Ikarus_: Well duh, you define a username and password when you install
[17:17] <bekks> Ikarus_: Because you where prompted to create one during the installation process.
[17:17] <Ikarus_> i didn't and thats wat i thought it was, but its asking me to actually log in. Duh
[17:17] <Krenair> Trying to run 'vagrant', but I get "The program 'vagrant' is currently not installed."
[17:18] <Krenair> When I do "sudo aptitude show vagrant" it says "State: installed"
[17:18] <theadmin> Krenair: dpkg -L vagrant | grep -L bin/
[17:18] <theadmin> err
[17:18] <Ikarus_> any idea how to log in or do i have to install all over again
[17:18] <theadmin> Krenair: dpkg -L vagrant | grep bin/
[17:19] <theadmin> Ikarus_: You'll have to use the recovery mode to reset your password or reinstall
[17:19] <joakim> bittorent links doesnt work
[17:20] <Krenair> theadmin, ah, that reveals where it's actually installed... Running it from there works. I'll have to remember that trick, thanks
[17:20] <Ikarus_> oh...euh....how do i do that. I'm honestly a windows kind of guy, but want linux on the desktop
[17:20] <theadmin> Ikarus_: Then I suggest you just reinstall. This time please remember the password you create.
[17:22] <Lazure> ok, so, ubuntu 12.10 is out, yet i can't seem to download it.
[17:22] <Ikarus_> thats the thing. I didn't get to creat it
[17:22] <Lazure> the website tries to send me 12.04 when i ask for 12.10
[17:22] <Lazure> and when i try the alternative downloads with torrent, it says the file isn't fond on their server
[17:22] <Lazure> found*
[17:22] <Ikarus_> but i'll try again
[17:22] <jcrza> I was gung-ho about the new ubuntu until I read the tagline "avoid the pain of windows 8" ... I can't be the only one who thinks that's pretty assinine
[17:23] <jcrza> Can't I like both?
[17:23] <jcrza> I don't think windows 8 will have the tagline "fuck ubunt" .. I mean cmon
[17:23] <Lazure> i won't use windows 8 until someone finds a way to bring back aero glass. i will NOT use that fugly DOS looking UI they got going there with the flat rectangles
[17:23] <Lazure> i cannot stand to look at that.
[17:24] <grandal_prime> hey guys...i got a situation where i built a machine with a bunch of ram in it. and the installer used half my hd space for a swap drive.
[17:24] <grandal_prime> i want to shrink that now...
[17:24] <jcrza> I just figured I'd register my annoyance, not that it really matters
[17:24] <unless> Hello folks!
[17:24] <Lazure> anyways, does anyone have a link to the proper torrent file for the official 12.10 64-bit release? the official website links it, but it's broken
[17:24] <jcrza> I think ubuntu is better than making its tagline "fuck windows"
[17:24] <grandal_prime> its all done with lvm and gparted dows not work with that.
[17:24] <Ikarus_> lol well i'm begininb to hate windows. I dont know what microsoft is doing but it sucks
[17:24] <devslash> is ubuntu server 12.10 stable ?
[17:24] <bazhang> jcrza, stop the cursing
[17:24] <RaringOne> !language | jcrza
[17:24] <reuf> Unix text file format -  what is the encoding?
[17:25] <karm61> ciao
[17:25] <karm61> !list
[17:25] <jcrza> You'd rather scold me for cursing than talk about something vaguely ubuntu related, alright
[17:25] <olinux> can i hide the taskbar on left of screen
[17:25] <i7c> i'm printing some pdf on ubuntu... it takes like forever then it prints one page, then it takes like for ever again and prints next page... what's wrong there?
[17:26] <Lazure> ok there it's finally working. i can finally download ubuntu 12.10 64-bit
[17:26] <unless> Since I've installed hp driver for my hp printer I get the following message showing besides some eventual system breaks. http://imagebin.org/232400
[17:26] <olinux> i7c, i have a pdf that does that on windows, i was thnking the file must be crazy
[17:26] <Lazure> i figure the torrent will be faster since ubuntu releases always result in dialup speed downloads directly
[17:26] <unless> Could someone help me figure what could I do to solve this issue please?
[17:26] <i7c> olinux: :o you think it's file related? mhm i'll check that out
[17:26] <unless> Is there any other hp driver user at this channel which passed for some sircunstances like that please?
[17:27] <unless> I'd like to talk to someone which passed throw this issue in some time of his live.
[17:27] <unless> Please, could someone try helping me here?
[17:27] <JoseeAntonioR> guys, I'm having a prob. After a sudo apt-get update, sudo do-release-upgrade is still not showing any new versions.
[17:28] <gilmar> Alguem fala portugues!
[17:29] <unless> gilmar, não
[17:29] <Pici> !pt | gilmar
[17:29] <mbalmer> mais uma caneca!
[17:29] <gilmar> Obrigado vc
[17:30] <WeThePeople> how are are local dir. mounted?
[17:30] <DX099> hello, I backuped my home, I backuped the whole /etc/ with sudo, not to loose my users, groups, and co. I saved my ppas, can I do a clean install ?
[17:31] <lnwlf2121> DX099, if you're asking if anyone can think of anything else you might want
[17:31] <Jimster480-Lapto> well where did you back it up?
[17:31] <lnwlf2121> DX099, I usually also get a listing of all the packages I have installed
[17:31] <DX099> on an externel hdd
[17:31] <lnwlf2121> DX099, not that that ever is 100%, but its helpful :)
[17:31] <DX099> lnwlf2121, dpkg --get-selections is done
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> DX099  yes and better create a separate /home partition, it makes fresh install a lot easier
[17:32] <hapster> download link to ubuntu 12.10 torrent broken?
[17:32] <DX099> MonkeyDust, I will this time
[17:33] <DX099> also what about the encryption ? does it work well apart from slower disk I/O ?
[17:34] <ngomes> hello , i used to stream audio from my pc to internet with this command -> vlc -vvv /dev/snd/hwC0D0  --sout '#transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=256,channels=2} :standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=:8080}' but now with pulseaudio and stuff , the device does not work anymore ... can anyone help with the right device ?
[17:36] <MarcN> I switched back from cinnamon wm to the default ubuntu unity one.  Cryptkeeper is no longer displayed in the icon bar.  What am I missing?
[17:37] <L3top> ngomes: I would purge pulse and be done with it.
[17:37] <ngomes> L3top, wont that broke my sound system ?
[17:37] <ngomes> or ubuntu
[17:38] <MarcN> cryptkeeper is running, but not displayed in the icon bar.  Any guesses why not? dbus related? I'm running an up to date 12.04
[17:39] <billkd> I'm using Ubuntu quantal, but pulseaudio doesn't work once I logi n. It works at the lightdm login screen but after that it breaks. Any suggestions?
[17:39] <olinux> any reason not to run 64 bit?
[17:39] <olinux> website says 32bit recommended
[17:39] <kroson_> olinux: short answer, no
[17:40] <kroson_> long answer: if you don't have very very old hardware, no
[17:40] <kroson_> xD
[17:40] <dr_willis> thats for people who have no idea what 32 or 64bit means olinux
[17:40] <dr_willis> 'idiot proofing' in the form of reccomendatings ;)
[17:40] <grandal_prime> grrrr i cant disable the swap drive?
[17:41] <billkd> solution, make a multiarch diskimage and recommend that.
[17:41] <dr_willis> grandal_prime:  you used 'swapoff' ?
[17:41] <varikonniemi> oh yeah, fingers crossed. do-release-upgrade in progress
[17:41] <billkd> I'm using ubuntu quantal, pulseaudio doesn't work after I log in but it does work at the lightdm login screen. Any suggestions for how to fix that don't include switching audio systems?
[17:42] <varikonniemi> has people been reporting failures in upgrading yet?
[17:42] <grandal_prime> dr_willis, trying that it wont off
[17:42] <olinux> ok thanks, just got a new machine and installed 12.04 late last night
[17:42] <grandal_prime> dr_willis, trying that it wont off
[17:42] <dr_willis> billkd:  try twiddling with that pavcontrol center tool to select the  output device perhaps?
[17:42] <Papa> is 12.10 available for download ?
[17:43] <elgaton> Papa: yes
[17:43] <Papa> link pls
[17:43] <varikonniemi> sudo do-release-upgrade or from ubuntu.com
[17:43] <grandal_prime> hey dr_willis what im trying to do is shrink it
[17:43]  * dr_willis hasent noticed any 'its released' anouncements yet,,,
[17:43] <Papa> wooohoooo
[17:43] <olinux> new to ubuntu, any tricks or favorite apps recommends?
[17:43] <grandal_prime> its huge...like 35 gigs
[17:43] <grandal_prime> i have 16 gigs of ram in the box
[17:43] <dr_willis> grandal_prime:  i tend to use live cd's for such tasks
[17:43] <Papa> Avoid the pain
[17:43] <Papa> of Windows 8.lol
[17:44] <varikonniemi> oh well sorry if its not "officially" released yet, i thought it was since do-release-upgrade started working a moment ago
[17:44] <dr_willis> olinux:  start with the ubuntu manual. ;)
[17:44] <dr_willis> !manual
[17:44] <grandal_prime> ya but dr_willis  what tool do i use to shrink the swap..its an lvm formated system gparted does not work
[17:44] <Jhonen> i just installed 12.10. what a complete mess
[17:44] <dr_willis> grandal_prime:  no idea on lvm.
[17:44] <billkd> package name?
[17:44] <awole20> what's so bad about windows8, aside from the weird start menu dock thing?
[17:44] <kroson_> olinux: if you are new, test the default ones, see which ones you like, and you are always free to try adding new ones to the bunch
[17:45] <varikonniemi> Jhonen, bashing ubuntu in general or compared to 12.04 ?
[17:45] <olinux> windows8 will be great
[17:45] <kroson_> if you desire
[17:45] <dr_willis> rants are for other channels please.
[17:45] <billkd> package name?
[17:45] <Jhonen> compared to 12.04 - That version could at least handle my nvidia card
[17:45] <Papa> ubuntu > windows 8 dude
[17:45] <Papa> Ubuntu 12.10 will be supported for two years woot
[17:45] <varikonniemi> what happens with 12.10
[17:45] <varikonniemi> don't say black and white stripes
[17:45] <kroson_> Papa: 1.5 years
[17:46] <domtron> hello, I'm looking for an editor that can give a realtime preview for text files like html, markdown, and latex and is/is like vim.
[17:46] <Papa> nice
[17:46] <Jhonen> if i press dash, the whole screen goes blurry and then freezes
[17:46] <h00k> Jhonen: please feel free to file bugs
[17:46] <nik90> Jhonen, the graphics card problem and performance fixed will be the focus of attention for 13.04..so that should not be a long time issue
[17:46] <awole20> Papa: no disagreement here. just hearing everyone's rants, but most of it seems to boil down to the start menu weirdness.
[17:46] <billkd> perhaps use vim?
[17:46] <Papa> naah dude microsoft is evil ppl should be windows free mero gah stupidity
[17:47] <Papa> metro
[17:47] <Papa> sucks
[17:48] <grandal_prime> ok dr_willis got it
[17:48] <billkd> package name for pavcontrol-center
[17:48] <olinux> domtron, i'm a vim fan for several years and lately using sublimetext exclusively
[17:48] <grandal_prime> ummm used Logical volumne management tool.. its in the 1204 repost
[17:48] <awole20> Papa: haven't given it a test drive, so I wouldn't be able to say.
[17:48] <domtron> billkd: I don't belive it provides real time rendering of those files. I found a plugin that renders .md files and serves them on a localhots port.
[17:48] <grandal_prime> repos that is...works good...but now creating new swap partition..what file system type?
[17:48] <grandal_prime> swap is not in the lis
[17:49] <kostkon> MarcN, check this blog post:  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/cryptfolder-indicator-ubuntu.html
[17:49] <kroson_> grandal_prime: select the mount point Linux-swap
[17:49] <billkd> package name for pavcontrol-center?
[17:49] <domtron> olinux: thanks I'll check it out
[17:49] <DX099> also what about the encryption ? does it work well apart from slower disk I/O ?
[17:50] <kostkon> MarcN, if you don't want to app the ppa, you can download the deb directly from here https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/indicators/+files/cryptfolder-indicator_0.0.4.4-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[17:50] <DX099> on 12.10 ?
[17:50] <unless> Since I've installed hp driver for my hp printer I get the following message showing besides some eventual system breaks. http://imagebin.org/232400
[17:51] <Jhonen> Does anyone know where to find the restricted drivers?
[17:51] <billkd> nevermind I think it's paprefs
[17:51] <kostkon> MarcN, nevertheless, the ppa page is located here, along with instructions on how to add it: https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/indicators
[17:52] <domtron> olinux: wow that's pricey, and I didn't see rendering as a feature
[17:52] <MarcN> kostkon, thanks for the pointers
[17:53] <kostkon> MarcN, cryptkeeper is an pretty old app, it only works with gnome2.
[17:53] <mangozy> #ubuntu-release-party
[17:54] <MarcN> kostkon, I've been using it for a long time....
[17:54] <billkd> in paprefs what can I change to fix it?
[17:54] <kostkon> MarcN, not on 12.04 i presume :P
[17:55] <unless> Since I've installed hp driver for my hp printer I get the following message showing besides some eventual system breaks. http://imagebin.org/232400
[17:55] <daddyapis> I noticed there's no alternate install (yet, maybe ever) for 12.10. Does the desktop installer still try to force UEFI? Anyway to disable this, if I don't have the option in my BIOS?
[17:56] <Calinou> no alternative installs in 12.10
[17:56] <MarcN> unless, which package is that?
[17:56] <Praxi> hmm google chrome keeps crashing at random times, I've tried uninstall/reinstall with no luck yet
[17:56] <kostkon> MarcN, ok, it is an gtk 2 tray app, so it works on xfce and/or other similar DEs.
[17:56] <unless> MarcelT3, not s
[17:57] <unless> .
[17:57] <unless> ure
[17:57] <xodiak> hello!
[17:58] <xodiak> I have 12.10 beta 2 installed. Do I need to reinstall 12.10 official or can I just upgrade?
[17:58] <bipul> how shud i know that my ubuntu is being infected by some virus
[17:58] <DJones> !final | xodiak
[17:58] <unless> MarcN, I am not sure.
[17:58] <Jhonen> xodiak: if i were you, i'd wait with the upgrade
[17:58] <i7c> olinux: really seems to depend on the file... is there any way to "correct" the pdf so that it is properly printable?
[17:58] <Papa> any1 installed 12.10 final release?
[17:58] <bekks> Papa: I bet someone already did.
[17:59] <xodiak> cool
[17:59] <delinquentme> on ubuntu ... will a mv operation of the same size be faster than a CP?
[17:59] <billkd> so how can I fix pulseaudio? Not trying to be annoying here
[17:59] <kickingvegas> not that
[17:59] <bekks> delinquentme: Only when staying in the same filesystem.
[18:00] <unless> MarcN, how do I figure it?
[18:00] <kostkon> billkd, mmm?
[18:00] <billkd> any ideas?
[18:00] <kostkon> billkd, what's your problem exactly?
[18:01] <billkd> sound works on the login screen(lightdm) but then breaks.
[18:01] <billkd> after login
[18:01] <MarcN> unless, what did you type at the terminal to run it? or from the menu?
[18:01] <kostkon> billkd, right. and what have you tried so far?
[18:01] <olinux> can i snap windows to the right or left 50% of screen like win7 / fedora?
[18:01] <kickingvegas> question: will an upgrade respect the wifi driver / module I installed in 12.04?
[18:02] <billkd> rm -rf /home/billkd/.pulse upgrading packages reinstalling pulse by dpkg-r pulseaudio and reinstalling and nothing works
[18:02] <billkd> gnome-control-center shows only dummy output
[18:02] <Notimik> anyone having graphical hickups with 12.10 and amd radeon cards in unity?
[18:02] <kostkon> billkd, you are using 12.04?
[18:02] <billkd> quantal
[18:03] <unless> MarcN, Iǘe installed HPLIP 3.12.10
[18:03] <L3top> Notimik: what driver are you using/what card
[18:03] <L3top> Notimik: what hickups
[18:03] <Notimik> L3top: amd prop one 5850
[18:03] <hwhomeworld> my vmware virtual install is hang at installing screen. is it a good idea to restart??
[18:03] <kostkon> billkd, ok, try killing it: pulseaudio -k, then restart it:  pulseaudio -D
[18:04] <kostkon> billkd, see if you are getting any error messages
[18:04] <Notimik> L3top: flashes the screen when i move the mouse up or down the unity bar
[18:04] <billkd> from the cli or gnome-terminal?
[18:04] <poine> so, what time will 12.10 be released?
[18:04] <kostkon> billkd, terminal
[18:04] <dr_willis> olinux:  that feature works for me in unity by default like that. ;)
[18:04] <kostkon> billkd, gnome terminal
[18:04] <DX099> poine, it is out
[18:05] <Notimik> L3top: works well in kubuntu though
[18:05] <poine> DX, the update manager doesn't show it to me... what am I missing?
[18:05] <DX099> poine, releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[18:05] <dr_willis> ive not seen an official anouncement yet poine ...
[18:05] <bekks> poine: Just wait until it shows up.
[18:05] <Papa> lol comodo has released antivirus for linux lol
[18:05] <dr_willis> but ive been busy ;)
[18:05] <poine> Thanx DX
[18:06] <L3top> Notimik: I would submit a bug. That sounds like quantals problem to me.
[18:06] <DX099> poine, maybe the server you're updating from hasn't been updated yet, just wait
[18:06] <dr_willis> papa theres at least 3 different av tools for linux that i know of.
[18:06] <billkd> daemon start failed
[18:07] <kostkon> billkd, does: ps -A | grep pulse produce any output
[18:07] <DX099> dr_willis, http://www.ubuntu.com/
[18:07] <dr_willis> DX099:  im on my phone, so im not reloading that site every 5 sec like others. ;)
[18:07] <billkd> yes
[18:08] <billkd> looks like it's running on pids 2868 and 10203
[18:08] <DX099> dr_willis, not need to reload , that's actually the first time i load that page since like 5 days
[18:08] <dr_willis> upgradeing  to 12.10 today will be nasty slow i bet due to server load.
[18:08] <kostkon> billkd, ok. try: pkill pulseaudio
[18:08] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, is dist-upgrade to 12.10 available yet?
[18:08] <billkd> yes! edit sources.list
[18:08] <kostkon> billkd, then, give again: ps -A | grep pulse
[18:08] <Notimik> L3top: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/960469 found this one
[18:08] <billkd> replace your codename wwith quantal
[18:09] <DX099> dr_willis, just go to cdimages.ubuntu.com, the lastest daily of quantal is bit-wise the same Iso everyone is rushing for
[18:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, thanks :)
[18:09] <dr_willis> billkd:  i dont think thats the right way to upgrade
[18:09] <billkd> \
[18:09] <billkd> no output now
[18:09] <dr_willis> DX099:  i dont think i need to download it to my phone. ;)
[18:09] <kostkon> billkd, ok, then give: pulseaudio -D
[18:10] <billkd> no more output
[18:10] <DX099> dr_willis, yeah, though that would be great :)
[18:10] <DX099> can anyone help me decide if I should choose partition encryption when doing 12.10 fresh install ?
[18:10] <xodiak> It looks like I might be successfully updating now! :)
[18:10] <billkd> hold on
[18:10] <kostkon> billkd, now open your sound prefs and check, i mean your gnome sound prefs, not papprefs or pavucontrol etc
[18:10] <dr_willis> DX099:  plus i updated my beta box 6 hrs ago. :0
[18:10] <billkd> same
[18:10] <dr_willis> DX099:  you on a laptop?
[18:11] <DX099> dr_willis, yes
[18:11] <billkd> ok hang on
[18:11] <dr_willis> DX099:  worried it may get stolen and people may get your stuff? if so encrype. ;)
[18:11] <kostkon> billkd, ok, then do the following: pkill pulseaudio, then go and delete your .pulse folder again, then give: pulseaudio -D
[18:11] <DX099> dr_willis, does it really slow down everything ?
[18:12] <billkd> headphones builtin audio now displays
[18:12] <DX099> will it be ok with Grub ?
[18:12] <kostkon> billkd, and make sure you don't have any apps running, like ffox or totem, anything that has to do with audio
[18:12] <billkd> but that's alsa
[18:12] <dr_willis> DX099:  no idea. i never use it. i see way to many people with issues  with it in here
[18:12] <kostkon> billkd, alsa?
[18:12] <DX099> ok
[18:12] <grandal_prime> dr_willis, problem is im trying to figure out wich one is the swap partion
[18:12] <billkd> I'm totally blind so I have speakup in the console to talk to you.
[18:12] <kostkon> billkd, you mean alsamixer?
[18:12] <billkd> I killed pulse so it fell back to alsa
[18:13] <dr_willis> grandal_prime:  should be listed in fstab or mount output
[18:13] <kostkon> billkd, right. ok, try deleting your .pulse folder again and then try restarting pulseaudio with pulseaudio -D
[18:13] <enkeron> Hello! Everybody use dwm + conky?
[18:13] <billkd> I use orca to get arouynd. The way I knew it worked on login only is orca talked on the login page but then it stopped talking so I lost sound and volkume keys didn't do anything/nmake any clicks I had somneone look at it and I was on dummy
[18:13] <dr_willis> enkeron:  you mean 'does anyone' ?
[18:14] <kostkon> billkd, ok. got it
[18:14] <dr_willis> !info dwm
[18:14] <grandal_prime> /dev/mapper/FPHQ--KVM-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[18:15] <Papa> guys anyone have ubuntu gnome shell remixdownload ?
[18:16] <decci> Hi Guys
[18:16] <decci> I need to create Xubuntu live cd with mkahawa (http://www.mkahawa.net). I am in verse to build two sets of live cd, one for the server and another for the client. On the Server Live Cd : 1.)Webmin 2.)Mkahawa Server  3.)Gofris 4.)Wine
[18:16] <Papa> yo
[18:16] <abete80> ciao
[18:16] <abete80> !list
[18:16] <dr_willis> papa not an officially supported vaiant so not really supported here.
[18:16] <keith> anyone ever got the ubuntu installer giving you 'no space left on device' when trying to install?
[18:16] <Papa> nope
[18:16] <decci> I read about uck tool. Anyone who have experience wit this tool?
[18:17] <IdleOne> dr_willis: not supported here.
[18:17] <teddyp1cker> hi all
[18:17] <xodiak> okay --- stupid question... How will I know if I successfully upgraded from 12.10 beta2 to 12.10 official?
[18:17] <teddyp1cker> does anyone tried to use 12.10 + wayland under virtual box?
[18:18] <trism> IdleOne: why isn't the remix supported here, it is in universe
[18:18] <jelly-home> Hi, I get a 404 on http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases//quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso when trying to download
[18:18] <DX099> dr_willis, ok so If I don't REALLY need, I should avoid ?
[18:18] <IdleOne> xodiak: what does lsb_release say
[18:18] <enkeron> Anyone use dwm with conky? Have some problems with starting conky, can't understand what command I must write in .xinitrc..
[18:18] <IdleOne> trism: it is?
[18:18] <decci> xodiak: apt-get upgrade
[18:18] <trism> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop quantal | IdleOne
[18:18] <dr_willis> DX099:  i perfer to keep things simple. ;)
[18:18] <IdleOne> hmm, ok I was wrong
[18:18] <IdleOne> trism: thanks :)
[18:18] <trism> IdleOne: no prob
[18:19] <rwolcott> #umngv
[18:19] <dr_willis> enkeron:  most basic command would be 'conky &'
[18:19] <kostkon> xodiak, either open and check your version in the system monitor, or just give:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:19] <genii-around> xodiak: lsb_release -r  will just say Release:        12.10
[18:19] <King_Arthur> what is the basic difference between xubuntu and lubuntu?
[18:19] <enkeron> yes, I tried it, but nothing work
[18:19] <xodiak> IdleOne: is that a command?
[18:19] <dr_willis> enkeron:  open a teminal and see if it works
[18:19] <kroson_> King_Arthur: desktop environment. xfce for first and lxde for second
[18:20] <nopestickyrice> hey 12.10 came out, but it doesnt showup in update manager
[18:20] <kroson_> xfce has more features, but is a little bit heavier than lxde
[18:20] <IdleOne> xodiak: yes, lsb_release -a
[18:20] <King_Arthur> thanks +kroson_
[18:20] <kroson_> if in doubt, go with xfce, or try both, my opinion...
[18:20] <nopestickyrice> anyone else have that problem?
[18:20] <dr_willis> nopestickyrice:  have patience..
[18:20] <enkeron> yes, it's working. But can't work in dwm status bar
[18:20] <oscalation> nopestickyrice: same here , any solution? no update given in update manger, settings are set to show update for any version
[18:20] <IdleOne> nopestickyrice: if you are on 12.04 you will need to go into Software Centre and change from LTS only to All Releases
[18:21] <dr_willis> actually for lts to non lts you have to check a 'allow non lts upgrsades' dont you?
[18:21] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:21] <nopestickyrice> IdleOne: thanks will try that
[18:21] <xodiak> IdleOne: NO LSB modules are available,
[18:21] <DX099> dr_willis, ok, maybe better that way... and also I backed up my /etc/folder with permissions and stuff as well as passwd and shadow, to keep my groups and users. Will it be okay to overwrite the fresh /etc/ of 12.10 with my backup ?
[18:21] <xodiak> IdleOne: Description: Ubuntu 12.10
[18:21] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help.. i have a HPDV61152TX machine
[18:21] <IdleOne> xodiak: do you see Release:	12.10?
[18:21] <enkeron> I think someone use bunch of program, and share his work script
[18:22] <IdleOne> 4 lines down
[18:22] <dr_willis> DX099:  never tried it. i only have 3 users. so i always readd them in the same order
[18:22] <Queops> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.1.2 doesn't have Ubuntu 12.10 on the list : |
[18:22] <Evdb> HiHi
[18:22] <DX099> ok, thanks
[18:22] <xodiak> IdleOne: Yes I do.
[18:22] <IdleOne> xodiak: you're good to go :)
[18:22] <dr_willis> enkeron:  start with the default conky setup and make it work. then start tweeaking it
[18:23] <anuaitt> hi
[18:23] <xodiak> Thanks... This is crazy in here
[18:23] <w30> King_Arthur, Lubuntu will give you a light weight set of default apps like Abiword instead of Libre Office etc.
[18:23] <Evdb> Need a little help with scripting. I know how you can create a file in a script, but how can you create a script within a script? I know how to make the .sh file, but how do I determine the contents of the script made in the script?
[18:23] <anuaitt> hi i see the statement "Avoid the pain  of Windows 8." on ubuntu's home page which is not at all good
[18:23] <anuaitt> can someone explain me what was the need to do so ??
[18:23] <dr_willis> Evdb:  determine what commands go in the new script?
[18:23] <jelly-home> anuaitt: I agree that schadenfreude is distasteful
[18:24] <Queops> anuaitt: i dont like it as well, it's sinking a bit low
[18:24] <Evdb> dt_willis yeah, Do you know how?
[18:24] <DX099> anuaitt, one of the first goal of ubuntu is to eat Windows mshares, they clearly stated that from the beginning
[18:24] <Evdb> *dr_willis
[18:24] <stobix> yo. Can I install Ubuntu by simply untaring all neccessary files unto an empty partition? I have an empty partition, but no cd drive or the likes...
[18:24] <DX099> anuaitt, look for bug #1 in launchpad
[18:24] <anuaitt> but this does not mean u can say like this
[18:24] <dr_willis> Evdb:  how can anyone but yourself know what commandsa are needed to be IN the script.. we dont know what its supposed to do..
[18:24] <enkeron> I tried to start conky with default config in Gnome - all right. I think problen not in conky's config, but in .xinitrc
[18:24] <Queops> DX099 it's still sinking a bit low
[18:25] <Queops> and read proprietary, not just window.s
[18:25] <Queops> anyway usb installer for 12.10 any recomends?
[18:25] <dr_willis> enkeron:  i thought x used .Xsession these days not .xinitrc
[18:25] <Evdb> dr_willis yeah but I just need to now how to place it in the script. I have a script, and when that script runs it makes a new .sh script. I just need to know how to determine the contents of the script made with the script dr_willis
[18:25] <anuaitt> if you want to see you will sell it for your features not by defaming others ..
[18:26] <anuaitt> it is totally wrong
[18:26] <ardchoille> dr_willis: it does but he may be starting apps from a wm
[18:26] <dr_willis> Evdb:  you can use echo or 'here documents' to echo the commands you want into the new file.
[18:26] <xangua> anuaitt: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[18:26] <Evdb> dr_willis hmm, I'll go try that ;)
[18:26] <kostkon> !ot | anuaitt
[18:26] <Evdb> dr_willis thanks in advance
[18:26] <enkeron> oh. cool idea. I forgot about this. Thanks
[18:27] <anuaitt> ok
[18:28] <nopestickyrice> IdleOne: it worked, i am now upgrading to 12.10 :)
[18:28] <enkeron> lucky man :)
[18:28] <DX099> Queops, of course, but since Windows still owns more than 80% of desktop, it's not that inappropriate  for me. FOSS needs to get more offensive. The disaster that happened with OGL4 and Direct3D is proof enough that doing things like the concurrence doesn't exist don't work well when it comes to dragging regular users to FOSS. Anyway, just "dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx" where x is your usb device like sdb/c/d...
[18:29] <Queops> DX099 offtopic for that.
[18:29] <nopestickyrice> if you want to do it yourself you have to change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, change lts to normal   and then run  sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:29] <xodiak> when I run apt-get update. I'm getting for "Failed to fetch" ... 404 not found. Any reason for concern?
[18:29] <Queops> And DX099 sadly I only have a windows machine right here
[18:29] <xodiak> *for = four*
[18:29] <Queops> I overloaded the universal usb filter though, should work.
[18:30] <jrib> xodiak: try a local mirror
[18:30] <ummmmm> hmm
[18:30] <dr_willis> xodiak:  servers are under heavy load right now i imagine. ;)
[18:30] <DX099> Queops, yes, that should do it.
[18:30] <xodiak> you think!? lol
[18:30] <Queops> DX099 ^^
[18:31] <dr_willis> this is why i update my beta befor release then wait a week to update again after release
[18:31] <dr_willis> :)
[18:31] <ardchoille> pretty smart
[18:31] <nopestickyrice> the one time university internet is useful :<
[18:32] <calmpitbull> hello i need help
[18:33] <calmpitbull> cant install anything
[18:33] <calmpitbull> have error Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:34] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help.. i have a HPDV61152TX machine
[18:35] <dr_willis> impressive that skype could crash so badly
[18:35] <dr_willis> it actually reboots. not closes X ?
[18:35] <Ansii> Hi all .. need help.. I have ubuntu12.04 LTS , have installed skype on it.. the problem is.. that every time i start skype and start video, the system randomly chrashes and reboots, it happens immediately when i try to share a file or screen thru skype.. anyone? please someone help.. i have a HPDV61152TX machine
[18:36] <xangua> Ansii: did you installed from the software center¿¿
[18:36] <xangua> i've had that issue but only skype chashes...not all the system
[18:37] <Ansii> yeah
[18:37] <Ansii> xangua yess
[18:38] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[18:38] <Ansii> xangua yess why??
[18:38] <user__> hi everyone, I got a question: can I upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and add full disk encryption during this upgrade?
[18:39] <Thisguy_> Does --match iprange allow use of ranges in --dport?
[18:39] <Thisguy_> In iptables ofc
[18:39] <cgtdk> Are people experiencing issues with 12.10? Thinking about upgrading from 12.04.
[18:40] <Papa> 12.10  > 12.04
[18:40] <jcrza> How can I upgrade my server easily?
[18:40] <Thisguy_> Oh, is 12.10 out?
[18:40] <cgtdk> yes
[18:40] <jrib> !upgrade | jcrza
[18:40] <jcrza> =)
[18:40] <Thisguy_> Sweet.
[18:40] <jilebedev> Hi: ls -l gives me permissions in this order: user(read/write/execute), group (read/write/execute), and 'other' (read/write/execute). Normally in ls -lah, the 'read/write/execute' is abbreviated to rwx. If I see rws for the 'group' column, what does that mean?
[18:40] <AstralStorm> hello
[18:40] <angela-> hi all i hav nau ubuntu 12.04 whan das the new upgrate comming out ?
[18:40] <AstralStorm> how can I get rid of unity's autohide of the panel?
[18:40] <cgtdk> angela-: it's out
[18:40] <Papa> it is out dude
[18:40] <AstralStorm> it is annoying in my virtualbox
[18:40] <jcrza> I meant my server.. those are desktop instructions
[18:41] <cgtdk> AstralStorm: because of Unity?
[18:41] <jrib> jcrza: actually, see the release notes because that wiki may not be up to date
[18:41] <jrib> !notes | jcrza
[18:41] <angela-> cgtdk,  whist one is it ?
[18:41] <cgtdk> angela-: 12.10
[18:42] <angela-> ok thanks cgtdk  i`m conne download him rigjt owy
[18:42] <xangua> AstralStorm: right clic in the desktop, change background, check the second tab
[18:42] <stobix> hm. Can I do a network install of ubuntu?
[18:42] <Jimster480> k
[18:42] <cgtdk> stobix: yes
[18:42] <z2s8> Hi, i made a live usb of the new ubuntu, and one of my pc booted from that fine, but my other pc can't boot from that anyone have same problem or know the solution to solve? thx
[18:42] <cgtdk> stobix: at least I think so
[18:42] <AstralStorm> xangua, hmm, thanks, I never thought to look in the "change background"
[18:43] <stobix> cgtdk: oh, nice. That might save the day for me. Know of any guide to help me through the process?
[18:43]  * stobix googles
[18:43] <cgtdk> stobix: I'm not actually sure. I thought I saw it on the website before, but now it's gone.
[18:43] <cgtdk> I think
[18:43] <Jimster480> oh so it is finally out lul
[18:44] <stobix> cgtdk: Found an even better option for me while googling. Thanks for your help! :)
[18:44] <cgtdk> :)
[18:44] <webm0nk3y> join #u1db
[18:44] <varikonniemi> is the amazon link in the launcher after the upgrade supposed to open a limited chrome tab?
[18:45] <valnour> jilebedev: get an answer for you question yet?
[18:45] <varikonniemi> kinda weird to just put a url link into launcher
[18:46] <valnour> jilebedev: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[18:47]  * stobix is going to use the wubi ubuntu installation in windows to install ubuntu on a separate partition. (Inception much)
[18:47] <decci> Hi Guys
[18:47] <decci> I need help with uck tool
[18:48] <black_puppydog> hm, upgrade 12.04 --> 12.10 asks for kerberos servers for my realm with a blank default. do I need this setting?
[18:48] <decci> What If I want to install few number of fixed packages. How to do that?
[18:48] <Thisguy_> Oh wait
[18:48] <Thisguy_> Is Quantal the release version or is it still Beta?
[18:48] <dniMretsaM> is it possible to install and set the home folder name to something other than the username?
[18:49] <nagel> hello. As i saw all the ubuntu variants came out. Where is gnomebuntu?
[18:49] <trism> nagel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[18:50] <cyberjunkie> is 12.10 called ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[18:50] <cyberjunkie> weird... cause the dwonload link is sending me to that
[18:51] <dniMretsaM> or should I install using a different username and then change the that?
[18:51] <nagel> thank you very much trism
[18:51] <Diabo-Leopoldina> alguém me le?
[18:51] <jrib> !pt | Diabo-Leopoldina
[18:52] <Soonn> Hi. I'm in doubt if update my 12.04 or make a clean instalation of 12.10. I have my /home in a separate partition but installed some programs and if I make a clean installation should reinstall. Is safe the update?
[18:53] <jrib> Soonn: with backups, everything is safe
[18:53] <Soonn> thanks jrib yes, but don't whant spend time in update and after that have to make a clean installation :-)
[18:54] <xodiak> anyone hear if myunity will be available for 12.10?
[18:54] <jrib> Soonn: update should be ok, but there's always a chance of things going terribly wrong.
[18:54] <varikonniemi> why did the raid mounting move from /media/ to /media/$USERNAME ? Now my whole torrent collection is lost for seeding since the path has changed
[18:54] <trism> xodiak: unfortunately it wasn't ported to gsettings so it was removed, though I haven't checked recently if upstream has been working on it *looks*
[18:54] <Soonn> hahaha yes jrib
[18:54] <budtaz> hello Ubuntu... any know can help me with gimp 2.6   im look for HDR high  dynamic range   .. thank you for ur help
[18:55] <Soonn> I'll try to update, cross my fingers not to have to make a clean installation, personal and important things are in /home in a diffeent partition
[18:55] <upset> Changing the default applications does not take effect/effects inconsistently. This was fixed in Quantal, but is there a way to fix it in 12.04?
[18:56] <trism> xodiak: yeah doesn't look like any work on it upstream either so probably dead for now, gnome-tweak-tool is still available though and dconf-editor for anything else
[18:57] <scarrs> experienced ubuntu user... I cannot gksu but I can sudo in terminal help?
[18:57] <luckybunny> hi folks, slight problem...
[18:57] <luckybunny> I've lost unity, probably a compiz crash
[18:57] <upset> luckybunny: What do you think happened?
[18:57] <luckybunny> I can't get a terminal, or change window to a browser or anything
[18:58] <upset> luckybunny: Did you install gnome?
[18:58] <Thisguy_> Where do i go to ask about the Bourne shell?
[18:58] <kriskropd> I'm writing a script that runs at random intervals, it needs to adjust the volume of only one specific application then return it to the default volume value - ubu server 12.04
[18:58] <upset> luckybunny: Did you install gnome 3, I mean
[18:58] <luckybunny> but kvirc is working fine, with the exception of no menus (they're usually on the unity panel of course)
[18:58] <MickStep> Hi I am havig a recurring crash problem, one second the system is working fine then next not even alt-shift-printscreen RSEIUB will have an effect. This crash happens on average once every 2 days but can happen more frequently than that or less frequently. For instance I have had my computer on for 4 hours and had a crash. It is an always on PC. kern.log: http://pastebin.com/epwhhQ73 dmesg: http://pastebin.com/GSU7UhYR
[18:58] <MickStep> 19:57 <MickStep> syslog: http://pastebin.com/bGiSDE22 Can anyone glean any information from these logs as to what might be causing the crash?
[18:58] <Thisguy_> I got it, never mind
[18:58] <jovi> !list
[18:58] <luckybunny> upset: no, although it might be installed as part of the dist upgrade I'm halfway through and can't switch to
[18:59] <luckybunny> lol
[18:59] <luckybunny> basically I'm stuck on kvirc right now, because unity has crashed
[18:59] <upset> luckybunny: Woah. Too much for me, sorry
[19:00] <upset> luckybunny: That sucks, though. A messed up dist upgrade
[19:00] <Logan_> !pastebin | calmpitbull, can you please paste bin the full message you receive when attempting to install packages?
[19:00] <luckybunny> I can switch to the tty1 etc, but can't relaunch unity because going to tty1 means leaving the current x session
[19:00] <scarrs> help, I cant use gksu... I can sudo just fine
[19:00] <luckybunny> and since unity should be on this session, switching to tty1 won't help
[19:00] <upset> luckybunny: I'm pretty sure there isn't a way to restart x without killing those processes
[19:00] <Guest1905> hello
[19:01] <jovi_> !list
[19:01] <luckybunny> I probably don't need to restart x
[19:01] <jovi_> hello
[19:01] <luckybunny> just either unity or compiz
[19:01] <upset> luckybunny: But isn't that the problem?
[19:01] <luckybunny> no
[19:01] <upset> luckybunny: You won't have a usable gui if you do that
[19:02] <upset> Changing the default applications does not take effect/effects inconsistently. This was fixed in Quantal, but is there a way to fix it in 12.04?
[19:02] <luckybunny> if I could switch window and get into terminal, I could just fire up compiz --replace and unity --replace
[19:02] <luckybunny> and all would be well
[19:02] <calzifer> hi, how stable or whats the quality of the LTS packages? is it still that only core packages gets bugfixes fast and everything else does take a lot of time for bugfixing?
[19:02] <luckybunny> but since I can't even fire up kvirc's terminal, nevermind the regular terminal, can't do that
[19:03] <jcrza> I love how easy it is to upgrade distros
[19:03] <luckybunny> oh... I can get a browser up, thanks to a http link
[19:03] <upset> luckybunny: Huzzah!
[19:03] <scarrs> !gksu
[19:04] <upset> Oh, thanks ubottu, that's actually pretty interesting
[19:04] <luckybunny> everything is working fine, really. All it is is a loss of window switching and virtually everything desktop environment related
[19:04] <scarrs> ok
[19:04] <MickStep> luckybunny: You should be able to restart compiz like this DISPLAY:7 compiz --replace
[19:04] <scarrs> why does gksudo work, but gksu not?
[19:05] <sturmi> Is there any way to add an ICQ Account to empathy?
[19:05] <luckybunny> MickStep: thanks.. will try that now
[19:05] <luckybunny> MickStep: will I need to sudo that?
[19:05] <kostkon> luckybunny, no
[19:05] <erictr1ck> Getting software packages is taking forever...
[19:05] <MickStep> no
[19:06] <luckybunny> DISPLAY:7 - command not found
[19:06] <upset> erictr1ck: Everyone is upgrading right now.
[19:06] <MickStep> sorry DISPLAY=:7
[19:06] <erictr1ck> upset: i know, im just too excited i guess :)
[19:06] <luckybunny> ah
[19:06] <upset> erictr1ck: I wouldn't even try to upgrade immediately. I would wait for other folks to do it and find the problems and the like
[19:07] <upset> erictr1ck: Let braver more knowledgeable folks break their extra machines, alert devs, and then upgrade
[19:07] <kriskropd> I'm writing a bash script on my ubu server 12.04 that needs to adjust the volume of one specific program (vlc) when it runs, but im having trouble finding a way to do this ~ anyone have ideas? :)
[19:08] <kostkon> sturmi, install the package: telepathy-haze, then restart empathy
[19:08] <erictr1ck> upset: i hear ya... this is my work put too. maybe i really should wait
[19:08] <sturmi> kostkon, i found a different solution online just now
[19:08] <kostkon> sturmi, which is
[19:08] <sturmi> you can add icq to the online accounts by installing the package "account-plugin-icq"
[19:09] <upset> erictr1ck: You probably can't since you've already started, right? Don't cancel a dist upgrade.
[19:09] <dr_willis> kriskropd:  vlc has command line options i recall to adjust its volume.
[19:09] <domtron> hi does anyone know of a text editor that can render a preview of html, markdown, and latex in real time?
[19:09] <kriskropd> dr_willis: yes, but those are for the instances you begin fromt he command line, not an exiting process of vlc
[19:09] <dr_willis> kriskropd:  check vlc --help
[19:09] <Naughxius> Hai everyone! :D
[19:10] <kriskropd> dr_willis: also --volume is buggy in vlc, which is what you are referring to i believe
[19:10] <erictr1ck> upset: yes i did start already but at this rate itll be enough time for people to bug by the time it actually downloads
[19:10] <kostkon> sturmi, yes, that will also install telepathy-haze, but also add icq as an option in the online accs, so yeah, install it.
[19:10] <kriskropd> dr_willis: im expecting a pulseaudio or alsamixer solution
[19:10] <dr_willis> kriskropd:  ive seen them used befor via ssh to controll a existing vlc instance.
[19:10] <upset> erictr1ck: But you'll be in their boat!
[19:10] <Naughxius> Someone got mirror links for 12.10?
[19:10] <Naughxius> downloads slowly... :(
[19:10] <dr_willis> kriskropd:  theres command line mixer volume controll tools also
[19:10] <kriskropd> dr_willis: i run vlc in ncurses mode, however my script is made for autonomous running
[19:11] <luckybunny> that gets my windows back, but still all borders and unity missing... weirdly
[19:11] <upset> Anyway, no responses to my query. I guess I'll take the slow route and go to the forums or research more
[19:11] <pmdz> Hi guys, can someone help with package pinning? Details: http://pastebin.com/C6Zg8c1E. I want to pin compiz and dependencies to "quantal" release
[19:11] <kriskropd> dr_willis: the script must be able to adjust volume without my interaction, thats the whole point
[19:11] <upset> luckbunny: Metacity I guess
[19:11] <dr_willis> watching videos in the ascii aet output mode? ;)
[19:11] <jrib> kriskropd: look into pactrl or pacmd, but with vlc it's probably easier to use its remote capabilities directly
[19:11] <kostkon> luckybunny, try resetting unity, you may lose some customisations but you'll get your desktop back
[19:11] <kriskropd> jrib: thanks
[19:11] <upset> Later guys
[19:11] <lawe> Can someone do my Linux IT homework for me?
[19:11] <snoopydroppy> domtron: you ever find one, tell me!
[19:12] <MickStep> do DISTPLAY=:7 unity --replace too, form a different tty
[19:12] <stefano_> ciao a tutti
[19:12] <snoopydroppy> domtron: you could always run autosave in the editor, watch the directory with inotify and let in compile and update evince.
[19:13] <kriskropd> jrib: do you know if vlc remote canbe controlled via scripts? this is honestly something that must work without any interaction from anyone
[19:13] <snoopydroppy> domtron: sounds like a script you could publish on github and get some recognition for.
[19:13] <jrib> kriskropd: yes
[19:13] <domtron> snoopydroppy: gedit has a plugin that gives a markdown preview http://blog.philippklaus.de/blog/2011/06/26/markdown-for-the-gedit-text-editor-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[19:14] <varikonniemi> wasn't 12.10 to start promoting 64 bit version? on the web page it still recommends 32bit...
[19:14] <domtron> snoopydroppy: but I'm hunting for a vim like editor or plugin
[19:14] <dormito>  my usb keyboard and mouse seem to randomly quit working, repluging them in does not fix the issue (but other usb devices continue to work). as far as I can tell without a mouse/keyboard the rest of the system continues to work. I am running ubuntu 12.04 desktop. I found a kernal message in the syslog at about the right time " xhci_queue_intr_tx: 1 callbacks suppressed" I dont know if its related, but its my best guess (but I have no idea what
[19:14] <dormito> to do about it if it is related). excerpt from syslog:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287538/ around 12:01 I sshed in and issued a shutdown -r now command
[19:15] <domtron> snoopydroppy: found one for markdown but it is not working on my computer
[19:16] <insano> How can I patch Menlo font for gnome-terminal?
[19:16] <scarrs> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[19:16] <scarrs> ?
[19:16] <domtron> snoopydroppy: https://github.com/suan/vim-instant-markdown that is all I have found though :/
[19:16] <scarrs> how to fix?
[19:16] <sturmi> btw is somebody using a Radeon HD and has installed 12.10? I tried to use the additional drivers but after logging in after a restart I'm only seeing the wallpaper.
[19:17] <Matan> hello, i have problem with indicator applet in u12.04 (mail/message menu), i have no idea why they is can't open in dock so i can't see integration with pidgin, xchat, thunderbird and other apps, someone know how to solve that problem?
[19:18] <ardchoille> !sudo | scarrs
[19:18] <varikonniemi> sturmi, i have seen many people complaining about graphical issues with 12.10, both on amd and nvidia side
[19:18] <pmdz> Can someone help with package pinning? Details: http://pastebin.com/C6Zg8c1E. I want to pin compiz and dependencies to "quantal" release
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> sturmi, It would probably help if you name the radeon and the drivers you installed.
[19:19] <kostkon> dormito, first of all, try connecting them to different ports. if they are connected to a usb hub, then try to connect them directly to your pc
[19:19] <natefoo> so i've got upstart stuck, it appears to be this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582745
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> varikonniemi, That s hardly helpful.
[19:19] <insano> How can I patch Menlo font for gnome-terminal?
[19:19] <natefoo> is there really no way around this other than rebooting?
[19:20] <tim> !lista
[19:20] <varikonniemi> wilee-nilee, it is in the fact that he does not get desperate when no-one have better clues so he knows he is not alone
[19:20] <kostkon> Matan, for xchat, you need to install the package xchat-indicator
[19:20] <sturmi> wilee-nilee well I tried both of the proprietary drivers from the addtional drivers section (fglrx and fglrx-updates) for my Radeon HD 78000
[19:20] <sturmi> and with both it doesn't work
[19:21] <luckybunny> apparently, there's no way to open x display 7 at all
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> sturmi, Cool, I can't help here, but the channel works best with details, thanks. ;)
[19:21] <Matan> kostkon, but i can't see that menu in bar
[19:21] <MickStep> try DISPLAY=:0
[19:22] <kostkon> Matan, you need to add or setup and account on an app that supports the messaging menu first for the envelope icon to appear, in 12.10
[19:22] <zeli> not sure if simley, or code
[19:22] <kostkon> an*
[19:22] <kostkon> in*
[19:22] <kostkon> :/
[19:23] <dormito> kostkon : they are a wireless pair, but they reviecer is pluged directly into the pc. however I have (if I understand my motherboard correctly) a set of usb 1 ports, a set for usb 2 and a set for three, I just moved it to 3. However I tried moving the reviecer from a usb 1 port to a usb 2 port while it was being unresponsive and it did not fix the issue
[19:23] <insano> How can I patch Menlo font for gnome-terminal?
[19:24] <luckybunny> aha!!
[19:24] <luckybunny> working (sort of) now
[19:24] <luckybunny> thanks MickStep
[19:25] <MickStep> luckybunny: np
[19:25] <kostkon> dormito, i think you should try all the available ports first
[19:26] <dormito> kostkon: alright I'll do that (since the problem occures randomly I'll have to wait till it next happens again). thanks
[19:26] <kostkon> dormito, no prob
[19:26] <Naughxius> ok, I've one nice mirror :D
[19:27] <insano> How can I patch Menlo font for gnome-terminal?
[19:28] <bobop> hello
[19:28] <pmdz> Can someone help with package pinning? Details: http://pastebin.com/C6Zg8c1E. I want to pin compiz and dependencies to "quantal" release
[19:29] <kriskropd> jrib: thanks, ive setup vlc to run on telnet then have the script telnet to the RC interface for vlc to contorl volume ~ i just need to figure out how to get it to send the command over telnet by itself now (never scripted for telnet before) , nonetheless ty
[19:30] <jrib> kriskropd: probably just use netcat?  Not sure, but I'm sure you can find plenty of examples
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> pmdz, You are running precise correct?
[19:32] <pmdz> correct
[19:32] <xodiak> running software updater and get this error: Failed to download repository information
[19:33] <infranet12> off topic a bit here, check out my phone up for sale at: http://tiny.cc/4r2dmw thanks!
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> pmdz, You are using precise compiz as of now correct?
[19:33] <pmdz> wilee-nilee: correct
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> pmdz, I'm curious as to why without the quantal compiz even installed you think it is a better choice.
[19:34] <jrib> infranet12: please don't advertise here
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> the desktops are different releases pmdz
[19:34] <jcrza> Will upgrading from 12.something server to 12.10 mess with my iptables settings?
[19:34] <jrib> jcrza: it shouldn't
[19:34] <pmdz> wilee-nilee: some bugs which annotiny me were fixed
[19:34] <infranet12> ok, np didnt know i couldnt
[19:34] <pmdz> wille-nilee: *which annoying
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> pmdz, how do you know this will extrapolate to running this in precise?
[19:35] <jschall> infranet12: that rule pretty much applies to the entire internet unless otherwise specified.
[19:35] <pmdz> wilee-nilee: I don't
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> pmdz, I would just be careful then if you mess with this be sure to be backed up and or know how to fix it. ;)
[19:36] <infranet12> jschall, :) i got it
[19:36] <jschall> pmdz: why not just upgrade to 12.10?
[19:37] <pmdz> wilee-nilee: I know how to fix it. Don't have time for upgrade
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> pmdz, Actually this channel is for within release support by and large, so you may not get support as quickly or at all doing this as well.
[19:38] <pmdz> wilee-nilee jschall : already fixed my problem, thanks for response
[19:38] <ubuntu> hello
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> hehe jarhead syndrome
[19:40] <bobop> I am having a problem getting the upgrade how do I mannually get it
[19:40] <Guest70997> I want to to a fresh install of ubuntu from 12.10, however, on the reinstall option, it won't change my partition map so that it automatically separate boot from home and so on. 12.04 has a utility to do this, but reinstalling would just use current partition map. How can have ubuntu to access that mode so that it plans automatically how much space I need for this & that ?
[19:40] <Guest70997> bobop, www.ubuntu.com
[19:41] <rawx> hey
[19:41] <bobop> ....
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> bobop, The mirror you are on may have it yet, software sources is where you would look.
[19:41] <Maxstyvason> how come Ubuntu 12.10 wont boot at all after install?
[19:41] <Guest70997> Maxstyvason, grub working ?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> !details > Maxstyvason
[19:41] <Maxstyvason> I install it to my secondary hard disk and it wont work
[19:41] <rawx> id like to talk to someone privately about ubuntu?
[19:41] <bekks> Guest70997: "Install" - that will cause you to lose your current data without backing them up before.
[19:41] <Myrtti> bobop: if you're on 12.04, it might be that the settings are so that it looks for only long term releases as upgrades
[19:41] <javierf_> Hi. I upgraded to 12.10 and have problems with message-indicator. I use pidgin and incoming messages are not indicated there, neither it changes colour. Also, won't work for incoming mails... any one knows what can be? thanks!
[19:41] <Maxstyvason> uh I gave enough details
[19:41] <Naughxius> ftp://ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca/Ubuntu/releases/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:41] <blodamned> Hi ubuntu-users
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> Maxstyvason, Hardly.
[19:42] <Naughxius> ftp://ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca/Ubuntu/releases/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:42] <Maxstyvason> I install to secondary hard drive, I select secondary hard drive and it skips over to Windows and boots
[19:42] <hpram99> Have a standard ATI video card, just updated 12.04 to 12.10, now it states my video Driver "Unknown", no additional drivers options
[19:42] <Guest70997> anyone has a clue ?
[19:42] <Naughxius> If someone needs mirror.
[19:42] <kroson_> hpram99: what is the video card?
[19:42] <rawx> i have a issue with my graphics drivers aswell
[19:42] <hpram99> dunno, 3 year old ATI Radeon something something
[19:43] <Maxstyvason> if you want people to "avoid headaches of Windows 8" make the goddamn thing work better than Windows, at least Windows 8 fucking boots
[19:43] <rawx> its nothing to worry about, just install as a fresh copy
[19:43] <hpram99> lol
[19:43] <rawx> and it should boot
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> Maxstyvason, Did you make sure grub was installed in that secondary HD's mbr. If you run the bootscript it would help us help you.
[19:43] <Maxstyvason> buit its not
[19:43] <Maxstyvason> I shouldnt have to
[19:43] <Maxstyvason> it should do it
[19:43] <kroson_> hpram99: go to terminal and write 'lspci |grep ATI'
[19:43] <Maxstyvason> idk what grub is
[19:43] <rawx> grub is a boot launcher
[19:43] <SolarisB1y> grub is da bomb
[19:44] <rawx> it lets you decide what OS to boot from
[19:44] <Naughxius> Windows 8 is totally crap... with that metro-style thingy...
[19:44] <hpram99> ATI RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
[19:44] <Maxstyvason> no shit sherlock idk what it does specifically outside of not working at all
[19:44] <kroson_> Maxstyvason: what do you think of ubuntu 12.10 unity?
[19:44] <Maxstyvason> idk I cant use it
[19:44] <SolarisB1y> all windows fan boys have this "give me the answer now" attitude
[19:44] <Maxstyvason> id like to but I cant boot
[19:44] <blodamned> Hi everybody, I'm on lucid and I need some help for a problem of (new) hard drive partitioning... Is it a good place to ask my question ?
[19:44] <Maxstyvason> you people make a shit os
[19:44] <kroson_> hpram99: support for HD4xxx cards using the "Additional (proprietary) driver"
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> Maxstyvason, I was going to try and help you, but your attutude along with the swearing which is against channel policy has you in my ignore list as of now
[19:44] <Maxstyvason> learn to make sure everything fucking works retards
[19:44] <rawx> max, ubuntu is a good os
[19:45]  * SolarisB1y enjoying my working ubuntu
[19:45] <hpram99> kroson_, I realize that, however the tab shows no available drivers, it's greyed out
[19:45] <kroson_> so you already have the latest driver you can use right now, which is integrated in ubuntu kernel
[19:45] <bekks> rawx: He's gone.
[19:45] <rawx> yeah
[19:45] <bekks> blodamned: yes.
[19:45] <rawx> i noticed that
[19:45] <kroson_> hpram99: you are in the "Software Sources" application?
[19:45] <blodamned> Great !
[19:45] <hpram99> kroson_, yes
[19:46] <Naughxius> @hpram99; there is lots of mirrors there.
[19:46] <niervol> hey
[19:46] <blodamned> It's a bit complicated for me. The fact: I just bought a Seagate barracuda HD and trying to format it in a HD enclosure, using gparted on Lucid
[19:47] <rawx> whats the best IRC for discussion of new ideas for ubuntu?
[19:47] <Naughxius> Lucid is quite old.
[19:47] <bekks> blodamned: And...?
[19:47] <lnwlf2121> do usb connected HDs keep a record of the computer's they're plugged into?
[19:47] <kroson_> hpram99: you don't see the Tab "Additional Drivers" or it is greyed out?
[19:47] <bekks> blodamned: Whats the specific problem doing so?
[19:47] <blodamned> My problem is that there is a "bad signature"
[19:47] <hpram99> Naughxius, I'm not sure if that was meant for me, there's no mirrors in there
[19:47] <lnwlf2121> or usb sticks in general?
[19:47] <Naughxius> @hpram; my bad >.<
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> rawx, #ubuntu-offtopic might be one but there is no best for that really.
[19:47] <MrGizmo757> hey dose anybody know how to get Compiz-plugins-extra installed?  it's only giving me the transitional dummy package.
[19:47] <WeThePeople> wierd thing just happened.. i put the trash from glx dock in dir. where it wasnt suppose to go, and now cant login, i am booted into backtrack, how do i fix this
[19:47] <hpram99> Naughxius, my issue is that the "Additional Drivers" is blank, the buttons are greyed out, and I cannot install the drivers
[19:47] <blodamned> And either gparted, parted or other alternatives that I though always ends with the same problem
[19:48] <kroson_> hpram99: you can't install the drivers, because like i told you, they no longer exist for your card
[19:48] <kroson_> hpram99: AMD no longer provides them
[19:48] <hpram99> kroson_, you did? huh, I missed that.
[19:48] <Mneumonic> Enabling the experiment Nvidia driver breaks my system.  It starts up and i get a low resolution desktop with no panel or unity bar.  Anyone know how to properly install the experimental drivers in 12.10?
[19:49] <kroson_> but the Open source community has a driver for your card, so unless you play games in linux, you won't notice a big difference between the AMD fglrx driver, and the opensource driver
[19:49] <rawx> gotta love non open soruce drivers
[19:49] <bobop> I actually am getting a error about the 12.10 beta disc and it failed to install fakeroot and that is preventing me from upgrading
[19:49] <hpram99> kroson_, the fglrx driver is slow :/
[19:49] <rawx> for 12.10 i wiped my drive and did a fresh install to bypass errors
[19:49] <kroson_> hpram99: do you play games on ubuntu? 3d games
[19:50] <Naughxius> sudo shred -n 1 -v -z /dev/sda ???
[19:50] <hpram99> kroson_, no, the occasional minecraft, but regardless, is it included?
[19:50] <Naughxius> I play minecraft :P
[19:50] <blodamned> bekks: for example: I try to make a msdos mbr, and the standard ubuntu tool tells me: "Error creating partition table: timeout (10s) waiting for change"
[19:50] <kroson_> hpram99: go to terminal and write 'glxinfo |grep Vendor'
[19:50] <hpram99> kroson_, because even the dash takes 1-2 seconds to appear and my CPU spikes any time something moves
[19:50] <kroson_> tell me the output
[19:50] <Gnea> Naughxius: they have minecraft legos now
[19:51] <Naughxius> :P
[19:51] <bekks> blodamned: Then just use sudo fdisk :)
[19:51] <hpram99> have to install tools... one sec
[19:51] <truexfan81> when does 11.10 reach eol?
[19:51] <Gnea> !11.10
[19:51] <hpram99> kroson_, no output
[19:52] <rollitup> i am trying to upgrade to 12.10 and i got this message so do you guys suggest to go ahead with the upgrade or abort it ?
[19:52] <rollitup> Your graphics hardware may not be fully supported in Ubuntu 12.10.  Running the 'unity' desktop environment is not fully supported by your graphics hardware. You will maybe end up in a very slow environment after the upgrade. Our advice is to keep the LTS version for now. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/UpdateManagerWarningForUnity3D Do you still want to continue with the upgrade?
[19:52] <Gnea> truexfan81: I think it went eol when 12.04 came out (it wasn't a big release)
[19:52] <Mneumonic> Has anyone tried installing the Experimental Nvidia Driver in 12.10?
[19:52] <kroson_> hpram99: go to terminal and write 'glxinfo |grep vendor'
[19:52] <blodamned> bekks: I didn't try as I do not know how to use it safely
[19:52] <Gnea> rollitup: I would play it safe and not upgrade
[19:52] <hpram99> server glx vendor string: SGI
[19:52] <hpram99> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
[19:52] <hpram99> OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
[19:53] <sburjan`> Hello. How can I change from GDM to lightgmd ? I have issues with GDM, I guess VMWare's video acceleration is not enough
[19:53] <bekks> !fdisk | blodamned
[19:53] <Evdb> Hey guys I have a problem with my keyboard:
[19:53] <bekks> hhmmm, hmmm.
[19:53] <kroson_> hpram99: you are with the opensource driver, that is the one you have to use now
[19:53] <Naughxius> @Rollitup; keep your Long-term support (LTS) version.
[19:53] <rollitup> thanks Gnea :
[19:53] <Gnea> sburjan`: did you install lightdm yet?
[19:53] <rollitup> :)
[19:53] <truexfan81> Gnea: how long after eol do the repos stay?
[19:53] <sburjan`> Gnea: yes, it's installed
[19:53] <Evdb> I have an AZERTY keyboard, and can't get a backslash. I want to xmodmap it, would xmodmap -e "keycode 60 = colon slash backslash" work?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> rollitup, Without information on your graphic card at the least how would we know?
[19:53] <Gnea> truexfan81: good question. I do not know.
[19:53] <bekks> blodamned: http://www.howtogeek.com/106873/how-to-use-fdisk-to-manage-partitions-on-linux/
[19:53] <hpram99> kroson_, that's odd, I'm pretty sure unity is being rendered in software, it's killing a core on my i7 just to move a window
[19:54] <Evdb> because normal gives colon, shift gives slash but the third one, what's needed for that one?
[19:54] <rollitup> wilee-nilee: yeah thats a point but i think i can wait
[19:54] <rollitup> :)
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> rollitup, I would until you are sure. ;)
[19:55] <Evdb> Has anyone read my problem?
[19:55] <Guest37771> Dears i have bt5r3 when i did ap-get update it said {{{{Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[19:55] <kroson_> hpram99: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx?field.series_filter=quantal use this ppa, when it says that fglrx-legacy is working. For now, it doesn't seem to be working (I haven't tested it)
[19:55] <Guest37771>   404  Not Found
[19:55] <Guest37771> Get:34 http://packages.fwbuilder.org lucid/contrib Packages [407B]
[19:55] <Guest37771> Get:35 http://archive.getdeb.net lucid-getdeb Release [7,252B]
[19:55] <Guest37771> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[19:55] <FloodBot1> Guest37771: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <Guest37771>   404  Not Found}}}} could u help me for this error plz
[19:55] <Naughxius> @Evdb, try to change your keyboard settings.
[19:55] <Evdb> \\\\\\
[19:55] <Evdb> yay
[19:55] <snoopydroppy> Evdb: this might not be exactly what you wanna hear, but test "US international keyboard (altgr dead-keys)". It is worth the short learning curve, trust me!
[19:55] <xodiak> As an Ubuntu user Is it obnoxious of me to feel superior to a mac-user?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> !patience > Evdb
[19:56] <Evdb> I found it guys nvm and excuse me
[19:56] <Naughxius> @xodiak, yes! since mac is a closed OS :D
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> xodiak, It is obnoxious to feel superior to anyone. ;)
[19:56] <xodiak> lol good point. I'll just switch to pity for them
[19:56] <Naughxius> Mac is wost than windows.
[19:56] <Naughxius> worst*
[19:56] <Evdb> Thanks anyways snoopydroppy ;)
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> xodiak, Empathy is the best.
[19:57] <dariebi> hi all, does anybody knew why i cant install remastersys at my ubutnu 12.04?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> dariebi, Can you describe the problem.
[19:57] <L3top> *worse
[19:57] <Jean-Jaques> Hello
[19:57] <xodiak> Hello
[19:57] <L3top> dariebi: which repo did you use?
[19:58] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[19:58] <Jean-Jaques> How can I enable the installation of untrusted source please ?
[19:58] <L3top> Jean-Jaques: Why do you want an untrusted source and what is it?
[19:58] <kroson_> hpram99: as an alternative, do what is said here: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-enable-opengl-30-support-for.html . If you do this, you are at your own risk.
[19:58] <crizis> http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/warsow | for ubuntu, www.warsow.net | free!! :>
[19:58] <dariebi> oneiric iam using, i cant install it. (sudo apt-get install remastersys) i was reading in ubuntuusers but it failured
[19:59] <Jean-Jaques> Python ASF Video player
[19:59] <xodiak> good-day to you all have fun with the upgrades. Thank you ubottu for the auto-help. And the other guys whom I cannot remember.
[19:59] <hpram99> kroson_, are you saying that the drivers aren't working in 12.10?
[19:59] <L3top> Jean-Jaques: what is the source?
[19:59] <hpram99> kroson_, oh, upgrade kernel, hrm... btrfs devs are asking me to do the same thing...
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> dariebi, It is not in the repos. http://askubuntu.com/questions/133272/how-do-i-install-remastersys
[20:00] <L3top> dariebi: as I understand it remastersys is not in repos, you have to add their source. Instructions are on their website for various versions.
[20:00] <dariebi> ok thank you for the link.
[20:01] <xflr6> Bonjour tt le monde
[20:01] <kroson_> hpram99: tell me the output of 'glxinfo |grep renderer'
[20:01] <L3top> !fr | xflr6
[20:01] <Jean-Jaques> Ubuntu is automatically detecting them
[20:01] <guest_ee87> hello.
[20:01] <xflr6> OK
[20:01] <xflr6> ...
[20:02] <stobix> hm. aptitude just removed aptitude... Not the best action IMHO.
[20:02] <xflr6> I thought I was on u-fr...
[20:02] <kroson_> hpram99: and from what you say, you are not using the full potential of your card. So you can do what i said, and is in that link. But that is not supported by ubuntu. Although you can backup and see if you have luck xD
[20:02] <hpram99> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770
[20:02] <Naughxius> I speak french :D | Je parle français :D
[20:02] <truexfan81> Gnea: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101479/are-existing-updates-available-after-end-of-support
[20:02] <knxville> I had a SCSI harddrive attached to my ubuntu server hosting video surveillance video, but suddenly it is empty, have you guys ever tried that? It was after a restart
[20:02] <dysoco> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 but I can't get a decent resolution because of the Nvidia drivers: So I tried installing them but apparently Jockey wasn't installed, so I installed it via de Software Center, then installed nvidia-current via Jockey, but apparently failed... but the software center says nvidia-current is installed and now I can't boot into Unity, and the resolution still is crap... any ideas ?
[20:02] <xflr6> me too
[20:03] <bekks> knxville: Tried what?
[20:03] <kroson_> hpram99: i don't know. Test some GPU intensive apps to evaluate its performance
[20:03] <dariebi> thx again, now iam right. :-)
[20:03] <guest_ee87> I finished installing 12.10 should I restore my /etc/ before booting it for the 1st time or should I wait to have booted once ?
[20:03] <knxville> bekks: losing data from a harddisk after a reboot?
[20:03] <kroson_> see if it is comparable to what you had previously
[20:03] <L3top> Not here Naughxius
[20:03] <Naughxius> :D
[20:03] <kroson_> hpram99: as alternatives, you can upgrade your kernel, and also use xorg-edgers ppa, but this procedure is risky
[20:03] <kroson_> i have to leave now, good luck
[20:04] <hpram99> kroson_,  thanks
[20:04] <dysoco> I also get buggy icons in Unity
[20:04] <L3top> hpram99: Can you restate your problem?
[20:04] <Jean-Jaques> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly liba52-0.7.4 libdvdnav4 libdvdread4 libmad0 libmp3lame0 libmpeg2-4 libopencore-amrnb0 libopencore-amrwb0 libsidplay1 libtwolame0 libx264-120
[20:04] <Jean-Jaques> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[20:05] <ccvvcc> When i connect to smb share on ubuntu which the shared directory is /mnt/ mounted with NTFS i get empty directories
[20:05] <ccvvcc> why?
[20:05] <guest_ee87> I finished installing 12.10 should I restore my /etc/ before booting it for the 1st time or should I wait to have booted once ?
[20:05] <hpram99> L3top, I have an ATI card, and updated to 12.10, it appears that unity (and any other rendering) is using CPU instead of GPU
[20:05] <Gnea> truexfan81: awesome.
[20:05] <L3top> that is the ugly plugin that is likely throwing that Jean-Jaques. It is not necessarily legal depending on your location.
[20:06] <dysoco> so can anyone help me ? I messed the nvidia drivers... what package should I install if I have a new Nvidia GTX550 card ? I want the propietary drivers
[20:06] <stobix> ehm, what's the latest version of ubuntu called?
[20:06] <stephenmac7> Hey, I was wondering why my computer's graphics keep glitching and making weird lines.
[20:06] <stephenmac7> stobix: Quantal Quetzal
[20:06] <wachpwnski> is this valid for an fstab entry, they said I can break ubuntu if I do it wrong: UUID="143fca20-e8f9-4c73-83e0-ce12d667c20a" /incoming ext4 defaults 0 1
[20:07] <L3top> hpram99: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed; and give me the output of lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 in a pastebin please
[20:07] <hpram99> L3top, opening the Unity dash causes a core on my CPU to spike, typing in XChat I can tell is very slightly delayed
[20:07] <stobix> stephenmac7: ah, thanks
[20:07] <L3top> hpram99: I believe the R7xx is an HD 34xx series... not positive.
[20:07] <stephenmac7> Like so: http://i.imgur.com/17EAQ.png
[20:08] <hpram99> L3top, it's a 4850
[20:08] <L3top> k... still need those outputs hpram99.
[20:08] <hpram99> L3top, http://pastebin.com/Z6QSxxvX
[20:08] <stephenmac7> Maybe install nvidia might help?
[20:09] <iLogical> how do I make .txt files to be opened automatically by gedit?
[20:10] <L3top> hpram99: what is the output of apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Candidate     you can put that here
[20:10] <dysoco> what is the correct way to install the nvidia drivers ? Jockey keeps failing
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | wachpwnski
[20:10] <L3top> and are you opposed to using the proprietary driver hpram99?
[20:10] <hpram99> $ apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Candidate
[20:10] <hpram99>   Candidate: 2:9.000-0ubuntu3
[20:11] <hpram99> L3top, no, I don't have any preference to proprietary vs open
[20:11] <hpram99> L3top, whatever works best
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> wachpwnski, It might help to look at the wiki info, fstab does have a bit of control but us easily fixable, although you may have to chroot in to do it if broken.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> is*
[20:13] <L3top> hmmm... I will have to look at that more closely... as of CCC 12-5 or 6 they dropped support for your chipset... and I do not know what is in the Ubuntu version hpram99... so give me a few minutes
[20:13] <senden9> Hi!
[20:13] <senden9> Can anyone confirm the following on Ubuntu 12.10: "sudo service networking restart" kill the window manager (unity).
[20:13] <guestolyp> Hello, do you know when the gnome3 12.10 remix will be up ?
[20:14] <hpram99> L3top, I have other cards...
[20:14] <L3top> senden9: that will not kill unity, it will restart the networking.
[20:14] <luisgbm> hi guys! a quick question: how does the ubuntu integration with twitter deals with those restrictions from twitter API? tokens and etc
[20:14] <L3top> hpram99: it may not be an issue... it is just kind of a pain to undo if it does not display... so I want to see what version is there.
[20:14] <dysoco> why the hell Jockey depends on kdelibs and Kdevelop ?
[20:14] <dysoco> I'm guessing it's for Jockey-kde but it's completly dumb
[20:15] <hpram99> L3top, is there somewhere I can go to see the list of still supported cards?  I have no particular attachment to this one
[20:15] <trism> guestolyp: available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[20:15] <easykill> I uh, lost power in the middle of upgrading my ubuntu. It no longer works. Is there any way to fix it without just wiping it and loading a month old backup?
[20:16] <jrib> easykill: describe the current state
[20:16] <seednode> Well, can you boot at all? Or does the install not show up?
[20:17] <L3top> no hpram99. They drop support, they do not tell you what they support. As of 1204 if THIS returns a result, it is NOT supported: lspci -nn | grep VGA | grep -Ei '((R.)([2-5])|(9|X|ES)(1|2?)([0-9])(5|0)0|Xpress)'
[20:17] <abaratican> How can I get apt-get to give me a version of vim that supports :set clipboard=unnamedplus ?  (so I can yank to the clipboard)
[20:17] <easykill> when i boot it it shows the usual sort of purple screen it shows for ubuntu booting then it goes black and stays like that forever
[20:17] <L3top> however they dropped support for the HD2xxx - HD4xxx series with the latest round hpram99
[20:17] <hpram99> L3top, no result
[20:18] <wachpwnski> I'm just looking to auto mount a partition.
[20:18] <L3top> right... so it is supported on 1204 hpram99... you are on a different version, and I need to match up the ubuntu version with the AMD version to see if it is the one that drops support or is the last one before the drop, which would have been smart.
[20:18] <hpram99> L3top, I carefuly watched the upgrade process, there was no mention of unsupported video
[20:19] <L3top> hpram99: that is because you were running the radeon driver, which is open.
[20:19] <kostkon> dysoco, open your software sources and select the additional drivers tab. that's how you install your proprietary drivers in 12.10
[20:19] <L3top> However how well THAT driver works with quantal, clearly not as well gelled as your previous version
[20:19] <hpram99> L3top, oh, you're right, I was, I switched back due to dual-head issues, I forgot...
[20:19] <senden9> @L3top: That's why I entered it. But "sudo service networking restart" kills (for me) also Unity.
[20:19] <matzipan[aw]> hmmm.. guys, any idea why dist-upgrade is not picking any updates?
[20:20] <ccvvcc> When i connect to smb share on ubuntu which the shared directory is /mnt/ mounted with NTFS i get empty directories,why?
[20:20] <easykill> fuck it i will just wipe my computer then
[20:20] <IdleOne> !language | easykill
[20:20] <L3top> senden9: that is very wrong. I would look at syslog and dmesg log in /var/log and see if I could figure out why your desktop is crashing.
[20:21] <easykill> sorry
[20:21] <chovynz> how can I write the result of find to a file, overwriting each time? (I want to create a log each time I run a command, that writes to a file and does not append)
[20:21] <jrib> chovynz: redirect the output of find with >.  But why?
[20:22] <senden9> @L3top: I try it 3 times. I think it's a bug. always the same result.
[20:22] <dontknow> lol avoid the pain of windows 8
[20:23] <olinux> avoid the pain of ubuntu
[20:23] <dontknow> anyone tried to update from 12.04?
[20:23] <roSievers> Hi, I just freshly reinstalled 12.04 (SSD broke). Now I'd like to get my old /home back (on the HDD). This is from 12.04.1 - can I refstab /home anyway or should I first update to 12.04.1?
[20:24] <kroson_> olinux: what do you mean?
[20:24] <SolarisB1y> uhoh
[20:24] <chovynz> jrib: I've created a function to find and list all files and directories with spaces in them. I want the output to go to a file instead of the screen - so I can read it at a later date and fix it up as I need to, rather than being bombarded with screen vomit. :-) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287702/
[20:24] <chovynz> jrib: I deal with alot of files from windows users.
[20:24] <jrib> chovynz: you prefer that to just having them renamed automatically?
[20:25] <chovynz> jrib: how do I go about that?
[20:25] <fyksen> Hey! I just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop pc. I got 2 ssd, and I wanted them to be in RAID0, so Iv installed the server version. After this, I installed ubuntu-desktop. But now I cant find the apps that lets me install the nvidida driver. Should I install it directly from Nvidia?
[20:25] <jrib> chovynz: you can pass '-exec' to find and it will execute a command on what it finds
[20:25] <olinux> kroson_, mac has problems, windows has problems, unbuntu has problems
[20:25] <dontknow> anyone tried to update? and did it give you trouble?
[20:26] <kroson_> chovynz: you write a script that runs find
[20:26] <chovynz> jrib: oh yeah, I have the rename in a separate function, but this helps me to see where the conflicts are if there are two files named the same.
[20:26] <kroson_> writes that like you say, and then > to a specific name of file
[20:27] <chovynz> I'll probably name it spacerz lol
[20:27] <kroson_> olinux: sure, but canonical is not saying that ubuntu doesn't have problems too
[20:27] <L3top> senden9: then file a bug report... again... I would look at the logs that I mentioned.
[20:28] <kroson_> chovynz: so if you want to write the output on a file, you need to create this script, so you can run the command more easily
[20:28] <chovynz> kroson_: ?
[20:28] <kroson_> you write the command find + everything you found to put the package names separated by spaces, and if you add > (filename) to the end of the command, it will write the output to a file
[20:29] <kroson_> chovynz: do you know what i mean by script?
[20:29] <chovynz> oh cool thanks kroson_
[20:29] <kroson_> chovynz: paste here the command you will use for find
[20:29] <chovynz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287702/
[20:29] <indieross> fyksen, open the software center then hit edit > software sources. click on the far right tab at the top
[20:30] <fyksen> indieross, Ahh, TY. :) My bad!
[20:30] <indieross> jurr welcome
[20:30] <L3top> hpram99: Ok... lets sudo apt-get install fglrx      if it crashes and burns I will walk you back out of it... but I think you are in the clear.
[20:31] <L3top> hpram99: are you on this machine now?
[20:31] <L3top> in irc I mean
[20:31] <L3top> If so, do you have another machine you can connect to irc on hpram99
[20:31] <hpram99> L3top, yeah, let me move to my lappy
[20:31] <billc> i am running a desktop how do i install a server
[20:31] <tehpwnz> What's the normal temp of a macbook pro running Ubuntu? Is 70 okay or that's too high
[20:32] <L3top> billc: why do you want to run server? What are you looking for that desktop does not provide?
[20:32] <billc> want access to all my home drives with my portable equipment
[20:33] <chovynz> jrib: kroson_ so if I do this :~$   find ~ -name "* *" -type f > ~/files.with.spaces.txt
[20:33] <chovynz>  this should do what I want?
[20:33] <bekks> billc: And whoch kind of "server" do you want?
[20:33] <bekks> *which
[20:33] <hpram99> L3top, actually wait
[20:33] <senden9> L3top: syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287708/  dmesg from the running system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287710/ dmesg.0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287716/
[20:33] <jrib> chovynz: sure though I think you should change what you want
[20:33] <dr_willis> billc: install the services you need on the desktop machine
[20:33] <chovynz> jrib: how so?
[20:33] <L3top> You can do that with desktop billc
[20:33] <hpram99> L3top, I started installing the legacy drivers, just updated the repos and it's waiting for me to click "update"
[20:34] <kroson_> chovynz: do you want a file with 2 lines?
[20:34] <hpram99> L3top, looks like a bunch of xserver updates
[20:34] <L3top> hpram99: by all means update
[20:34] <L3top> if you get what you need out of the open drivers... I am all for that hpram99.
[20:34] <hpram99> L3top, well, this is the legacy driver
[20:35] <L3top> hpram99: same thing.
[20:35] <chovynz> kroson_: no i want a list of all files and directories that have spaces in them. The variable $toto only gives me the number which is useful to see at a glance.
[20:35] <billc> when i leave my desktop i want to b able to access all my files from my laptop, netbook, tablet or smartphone either read or save
[20:36] <L3top> keep in mind hpram99, as of today, ATI considers your chipset legacy.
[20:36] <dontknow> does 12.10's encryption encrypt whole disk? if so, does it support AES-NI instruction set?
[20:36]  * L3top opts not to rant
[20:36] <bekks> billc: Then just install all services desired on your desktop machine.
[20:36] <hpram99> L3top, that sucks, but whatever I guess
[20:36] <fyksen> Whats the best RDP software for Ubuntu? I want to be able to RDP into my ubuntu desktop from my ubuntu laptop :)
[20:36] <bekks> fyksen: Then just use VNC.
[20:36] <jaqque> is anyone using Universal Client Configuration Service to connect to a Windows RDP from the Ubuntu 12.10 greeter?
[20:36] <billc> on my ubuntu desktop
[20:37] <bekks> billc: Yes.
[20:37] <chovynz> WAHOO!
[20:37] <fyksen> bekks, what software, do you have any links to show how to to it? : )
[20:37] <billc> where do i find them
[20:37] <kroson_> chovynz: so it gives you the number of directories with spaces, and files too, right?
[20:37] <kroson_> that script
[20:38] <bekks> billc: In the software center, e.g.
[20:38] <bekks> !vnc | fyksen
[20:38] <chovynz> that script, finds xyz files > textfile, tells me on screen how many files and directories
[20:38] <jrib> chovynz: well I don't see why you would want a list instead of just doing the renaming directly
[20:38] <soupeee> after an update wicd doesn't connect with the free wifi around town. log says "err, wlan0: timed out". But I can connect to home wifi ok. Any suggestions?
[20:38] <ls612> is there a compat-wireless package yet for 12.10?
[20:38] <fyksen> bekks, ur a beast! TY again :)
[20:38] <chovynz> jrib: some are duplicates, some are the same name but different files
[20:39] <kroson_> chovynz: what is the output without the part wc -l ?
[20:39] <kroson_> |wc -l
[20:39] <jrib> chovynz: but that's a separate issue
[20:39] <billc> thank you
[20:40] <peto__> at what UTC time has been Quantal released?
[20:40] <chovynz> jrib: yeah. got that covered. Renaming is no prob, but when there was conflicts this is a useful analysis tool.
[20:40] <dontknow> does whole disk encryption use intel's aes-ni?
[20:40] <dontknow> in 12.10
[20:40] <jrib> chovynz: if I wanted to find duplicates, I would use fdupes
[20:41] <chovynz> kroson_: truncated http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287728/
[20:41] <chovynz> thanks jrib
[20:42] <soupeee> after an update wicd doesn't connect with the free wifi around town. log says "err, wlan0: timed out". But I can connect to home wifi ok. Any suggestions?
[20:42] <kroson_> chovynz: so, isn't this what you wanted?
[20:42] <chovynz> kroson_: that's exactly what I wanted.
[20:42] <cyrusgod> hi there, was anyone tried to install the new 12.10 on a asus zenbook ux32vd?
[20:42] <L3top> !anyone | cyrusgod
[20:43] <kostkon> cyrusgod, just load the live cd/usb and select the option to try it.
[20:43] <chovynz> kroson_: your answers before allowed me to do that, thanks
[20:43] <kroson_> write this instead: echo $(find ~ -name "* *" -type f) > filename
[20:43] <kroson_> instead of the toto part
[20:43] <hpram99_> L3top legacy drivers appeared to perform identically
[20:43] <kroson_> for the second toto
[20:43] <kroson_> write this:
[20:43] <FloodBot1> kroson_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <hpram99_> L3top aka, poorly
[20:44] <chovynz> why would i do that kroson_ ?
[20:44] <L3top> ok then hpram99_ sudo apt-get install fglrx
[20:44] <cyrusgod> kostkon: i tried to do that, but when a select that option or other... the screen stay black
[20:44] <hpram99_> L3top yup, done, rebooting now
[20:44] <cyrusgod> kroson_: and doesn't do anything more
[20:44] <kroson_> echo $(find ~ -name "* *" -type d | wc -l) >> filename (here is the same filename as before)
[20:45] <hpram99_> L3top, I hope I didn't have to remove the legacy drivers first :/
[20:45] <kostkon> cyrusgod, oh ok. probably graphics card related
[20:45] <L3top> no hpram99_... they are part of the basic xorg set
[20:45] <bglazer> I'm running nouveau drivers on an nvidia geforce 8300m. I have a dual monitor setup. Everything works well for 5-10 minutes but then my system slows to a crawl. Any ideas on how to remediate this?
[20:45] <kroson_> chovynz: this will enable you to have a file with the output, instead of having it appearing in the bash
[20:45] <bizhanMona> hi, ubuntu 12.10 got realease today where could I get the source code for that release? thx
[20:46] <L3top> bglazer: does top reveal anything?
[20:46] <kroson_> so you can access the output of that log whenever you want
[20:46] <chovynz> ah. thanks kroson_
[20:46] <cyrusgod> kostkon: so i won't be able to install it right? this ultrabook has 2 weeks
[20:46] <kostkon> cyrusgod, you mean it's pretty new?
[20:46] <cyrusgod> kroson_: i was expecting much suport with this new 12.10
[20:46] <cyrusgod> kostkon: yes
[20:46] <chovynz> kroson_:  does that >> append?
[20:47] <kroson_> chovynz: no problem :)
[20:47] <kroson_> chovynz: yes
[20:47] <L3top> !nomodeset | cyrusgod
[20:47] <chovynz> kroson_: sweet!!
[20:47] <kroson_> the first > creates a line, >> creates a 2nd line
[20:47] <kroson_> it appends to the first one
[20:47] <cyrusgod> ubottu: i will try that thnks
[20:47] <L3top> > write >> append
[20:48] <cyrusgod> L3top: thanks
[20:48] <L3top> np... we can try other things if that does not solve
[20:49] <sebuba> fala galera, corrido aqui :(
[20:49] <kroson_> chovynz: |wc -l     meant word count, of lines, that's why you were getting the number of those files you specified instead of actually getting them
[20:49] <bglazer> L3top: I've never looked at top while the system was running slowly. What should I look for?
[20:50] <hpram99_> L3top, wow, it hasn't been this snappy since I last installed the proprietary drivers...  however, my dual-head setup is broken again :(
[20:50] <soupeee> after an update wicd doesn't connect with the free wifi around town. log says "err, wlan0: timed out". But I can connect to home wifi ok. Any suggestions?
[20:50] <hpram99_> L3top, and gwibber crashed, and I don't have any of the UI except the desktop
[20:50] <ejv> Please don't give out wrong information, ">" is used for redirecting output to something other than stdout. ">" overwrites the file if it exists or creates it if it doesn't. ">>" appends to a file or creates the file if it doesn't exist.
[20:50] <chovynz> can I #comment in a function?
[20:50] <kostkon> cyrusgod, also make sure that the iso image you've downloaded is not corrupted, by verifying it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:50] <kroson_> ejv: that is what i said
[20:50] <hpram99_> L3top, and compiz just crashed...
[20:50] <kroson_> > is for overwriting
[20:50] <L3top> bglazer: it should be fairly self evident. I would boot from scratch... watch top... and see if processes are chewing up more and more ram/cpu (prob ram) and figure out why.
[20:50] <kroson_> >> for appending, or creating if the file doesn't exist
[20:51] <bglazer> L3top: Ok thanks for the advice!
[20:51] <L3top> hpram99_: not sure what that means. The fact that it was up... doesn't lead me to believe that it is the driver, but... a quantal issue. I would look heavily through the logs to confirm that... but that would be my where my blame was sniffing.
[20:52] <kroson_> hpram99_: did you fix your problems with 12.10?
[20:53] <hpram99_> kroson_ no, L3top has been helping, tried legacy drivers you suggested, no difference in performance, L3top found that the proprietary drivers should still work and I installed them
[20:53] <ejv> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html - I recommend this resource for a more thorough explanatin of I/O redirection (stdin, stdout, stderr)
[20:54] <kroson_> hpram99_: and they work better ?
[20:54] <hpram99_> kroson_ seems to, except I'm missing unity :/
[20:54] <hpram99_> kroson_ the mouse at least moves smoother, and applications seem snappy, but I'm missing the entire UI
[20:55] <kroson_> hpram99_: installed fglrx 12.9?
[20:56] <soupeee> after an update wicd doesn't connect with the free wifi around town. log says "err, wlan0: timed out". But I can connect to home wifi ok. Any suggestions?
[20:56] <hpram99_> kroson_ how do I check?
[20:56] <chovynz> kroson_:  jrib hows this syntax? how is $textfile, and would it work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287757/
[20:57] <qwebirc78667> hmm, for some reason I can't connect via irssi..??
[20:58] <Fluxarray> hi
[20:58] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:58] <doug1> if I do an 'apt-get policy' and I see several versions of a package... why doesn't 'apt-get install 2.7.19-1puppetlabs2' work?
[20:58] <kroson_> hpram99_: apt-get search '~i ^fglrx$'
[20:58] <kroson_> i think
[20:58] <hpram99_> kroson_, nevermind, I found it, it shows version 2:9.000
[20:59] <Krenair> I get this when doing apt-get update
[20:59] <Krenair> W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[20:59] <jrib> chovynz: no, that won't work.  $() expects a command inside
[20:59] <chovynz> can i do it without $() ?
[20:59] <pardax> hey
[21:00] <chovynz> textfile=blahblah
[21:00] <pardax> what is the best way of secure chat over ssh
[21:00] <hylian> Krenair: run this command in terminal: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf (you may have to run it more than once)
[21:00] <Fluxarray> I have an issue with 12.04 and 12.10 on my laptop concerning java and my device drivers, I was wondering maybe someone else encountered the same: when running a very simple JFrame, it makes the entire system lag (only if I have proprietary drivers installed). I have to install these drivers otherwise my brightness keys won't work. The laptop is a HP Probook 6570b and has an AMD GPU using the 12.8/12.9beta drivers (both give issues)
[21:00] <Fluxarray> If someone could help me, or knows how to get the brightness keys to work without proprietary drivers I would be very happy :D
[21:01] <soupeee> any idea why wicd connects to "secure" wifi at home, but not free wifi at McDonalds?
[21:01] <hylian> Fluxarray: sorry, never ran into that before... hmm.
[21:01] <xangua> !gpgerr | Krenair
[21:01] <chovynz> jrib: it works!
[21:02] <Fluxarray> Hylian, do you know how to get the brightness keys? The indicator pops up and the keys themselves work, but the brightness just stay the same.
[21:02] <bglazer> Fluxarray: have you tried this http://linuxon1001p.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-brightness-controls.html
[21:02] <hylian> soupeee: wicd, along with nm-applet, both want to connect to networks already verified by you as ok. You do this by manually connecting to them. I did not have this problem afetr the first time I connected.
[21:02] <Krenair> 24 new signatures... interesting
[21:02] <Krenair> Thanks xangua
[21:02] <neo_> anyone have problems with unity on 12.10?
[21:02] <hylian> Fluxarray: sorry, i don't.
[21:02] <neo_> i can't get into my system
[21:03] <neo_> :/
[21:03] <bglazer> Fluxarray: oops sorry.
[21:03] <hylian> neo_: exactly what is happening?
[21:03] <soupeee> hylian: how do I manually connect?
[21:03] <bglazer> hylian: have you tried this http://linuxon1001p.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-brightness-controls.html
[21:03] <Fluxarray> bglazer, thanks! I'll try this. No idea how to do it but I'll find it
[21:03] <neo_> flushing display
[21:04] <neo_> @hylian: have you heard someone had problems also?
[21:04] <hylian> soupeee: it depends on the program you are using, but you should be able to peruse through the connections available, and then choose one to manually connect to.
[21:04] <solitude88> Morning
[21:04] <hylian> bglazer: i am not the person with brightness issues, Fluxarray
[21:04] <scarrs> help... banshee crashes immediately upon start the only way of fixing it so far is a complete os install
[21:04] <Krenair> hmm, chovynz. I recognise that name from somewhere. Wouldn't happen to be an ex-discovery player would you, chovynz?
[21:04] <bglazer> hylian: Oops. Got mixed up.
[21:05] <chovynz> cough
[21:05] <hylian> bglazer: no problem man. :)
[21:05] <neo_> i can only go to init 3... pls help! i just uninstalled fedora after 3 years... and first thing after installation - i can't get into the unity
[21:05] <hylian> Krenair: did my workaround do the trick?
[21:05] <kostkon> neo_, you need to give more info
[21:06] <pgdac> After grub screen ubuntu  is not showing login screen only  almost black screen is showing?
[21:06] <ElixirVitae> Is there an equivalent of YUMI for linux?
[21:06] <hylian> ElixirVitae: never heard of it..??
[21:06] <neo_> @kostkon: i have dell xps m1530 with 8600gs nvidia...
[21:06] <doug1> Ok, if I do "apt-get install puppetmaster=2.7.19-1puppetlabs2" I get... " Depends: puppetmaster-common (= 2.7.19-1puppetlabs2) but 3.0.1-1puppetlabs1 is to be installed"....
[21:06] <bglazer> Fluxarray: this link might provide a more usable solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/123604/how-do-i-make-screen-dimming-work-in-ubuntu-12-04-beta-2
[21:06] <ElixirVitae> hylian, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[21:06] <doug1> where did 3.0.2 come from?
[21:07] <neo_> @kostkon: exacly what info you need?
[21:07] <ElixirVitae> It says it works through WINE, but I want something native, if there is one.
[21:07] <neo_> can i install some other display like xfce?
[21:08] <wmp_> hello, in 12.10 i have only one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo. dmesg show: CPU1: Not responding.
[21:08] <hylian> ElixirVitae: I personally use UNetBootin myself, but I don't know if it supports multiple os's on one usb key drive..
[21:08] <kroson_> neo_: what do you get when you boot ubuntu?
[21:09] <andyc101> Noob looking for fastest and easiest to use GUI for rasberry pi
[21:09] <soupeee> hylian: went through wicd->preferences -- nothing about connecting manually, unless there's some way of saying "manually" that I'm not grokking.
[21:10] <pete_> hi guys, ive just installed xubuntu on ubuntu 12.04 becasue it runs so much faster on this netbook, but i dont like how it looks and was wondering how i change themes etc
[21:10] <neo_> @kroson_: i get to the login window, i enter my password and unity starts to load. Then it stopes and start to flash (in cca 1s interval). then it stops in fractal picture and it flashes when i move the mouse or push anything on the keyboard
[21:11] <kroson_> neo_: ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[21:11] <ElixirVitae> Hmm, I should check whether it does, hylian.
[21:11] <ElixirVitae> Grazie~
[21:11] <bglazer> neo_: have you tried logging into unity2d?
[21:11] <pete_> 12.04
[21:11] <hylian> soupeee: I was referring to seeing the network in your wireless manager (wicd-gtk, for instance) and then choosing it. That is manually.. I think I may have misunderstood the question.
[21:11] <neo_> @kroson_: 12.10 unetbootin usb
[21:11] <kostkon> bglazer, 12.10 doesn't have unity 2d
[21:11] <neo_> @bglazer: no i didn't, dunno how
[21:12] <kroson_> neo_: 12.10 doesn't have unity 2d
[21:12] <neo_> i just came from fedora and rhel world :) after 3 years
[21:12] <Fluxarray> bglazer: Thanks man!
[21:12] <kostkon> neo_, are you able to open apps?
[21:12] <jmcantrell> what's a good ultrabook that works with ubuntu without any tweaking?
[21:12] <kroson_> it should work now already, using llvmpipe
[21:12] <neo_> @kostkon: i-m not able to open any gui app... i'm in init 3
[21:12] <neo_> irssi
[21:12] <andyc101> Hello easiest and fastest GUI do rasberry pi?
[21:13] <neo_> Does Ubuntu have #unity irc channel
[21:13] <Fluxarray> bglazer: also sorry for bothering you, I googled my ass off but I thought the things I found where for specific laptop models only :)
[21:13] <kostkon> neo_, you could try installing the nvidia driver.
[21:13] <neo_> yeah!
[21:14] <kroson_> neo_: do you have network? LAN at least
[21:14] <hylian> pete_: hmm, i never theme anything, i like vanilla. But I am sure if you google'd it you would find themes. I can help you with things like placing the xfce4 bar in a different location, i.e. on the sides or bottom. in the xfce settings manager you can change theme, windows decoration, and a few other things.
[21:14] <neo_> @kostkon: i suspected thats a problem
[21:14] <bglazer> andyc101: you could try the #raspberrypi channel. They can probably answer your question
[21:14] <neo_> i have wireless
[21:14] <kostkon> kroson_, good question
[21:14] <neo_> and it works as you see
[21:14] <neo_> hehe
[21:14] <andyc101> Thanks
[21:14] <xangua> ElixirVitae: i use multisystem http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[21:14] <jmcantrell> what's a good ultrabook that works with ubuntu without any tweaking?
[21:14] <neo_> @kostkon: can you tell me which repo do i need to download/enable
[21:14] <neo_> for nvidia
[21:15] <xangua> you can algo support them by buying then ;)
[21:15] <kostkon> neo_, you just need to give the usual sudo apt-get install cmd
[21:15] <bglazer> Fluxarray: no problem. I can't guarantee that this will work of course.
[21:15] <xangua> !hardware | jmcantrell
[21:15] <neo_> @kostkon: don't need to include some extra repo?? wow, thats great
[21:15] <kverbr> anyone ever heard of a login name being changed on the login screen?
[21:15] <chris__> Hi, is it normal that there is nothing under "Other Software" in the "Software Sources" after installing Ubuntu 12.10 (fresh install using Wubi)? I think there is supposed to be at least the Canonical Partners Repository in there. I tried manually adding it (and doing an apt-get update) but Canonical Partner software still doesn't show up in the Software Center.
[21:15] <ElixirVitae> Hmm, that looks promising, xangua, thanks, will try.
[21:16] <kverbr> as a glitch I mean - the login name on the login screen changing and not letting you in\
[21:17] <yayLINUX> hey, I want to install ubuntu 12.10 with my USB and both with unetbootin and yumi it gives the error that it can't find a live system... :/
[21:17] <kostkon> neo_, yes. anyway, try giving: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:17] <xangua> yayLINUX: is your usb stick file system fat32¿
[21:18] <yayLINUX> yup
[21:18] <andyc101> #rasberrypi is quiet. Looking for fastest and Easiest to use GUI  for pi
[21:18] <jmcantrell> xangua: thanks
[21:18] <kroson_> kostkon: neo_ be careful, i don't know if your card is supported by nvidia-current
[21:18] <kroson_> maybe only the 173 version
[21:18] <kroson_> i'm not sure, you should check that
[21:19] <neo_> @kostkon: yes, that should help... i don't understand why everything did well when i ran ubuntu 12.10 live... maybe i should try with vesa if nvidia-current don't work
[21:19] <kostkon> kroson_, nvidia-current installs the 173
[21:20] <kroson_> kostkon: it installs 304.51, doesn't it?
[21:20] <kroson_> any way neo_ , just do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current'
[21:20] <aleksandar22> Will the upgrade to 12.10 contine working if I suspend my PC
[21:20] <kostkon> kroson_, oh damn, i don't know :/ http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/nvidia-current
[21:21] <xangua> aleksandar22: you don't want to leave your pc alone while upgrading versions
[21:21] <kroson_> kostkon: nevermind, i checked and his card supports 304.51
[21:21] <Logan_> andyc101: You probably want #raspberrypi.
[21:21] <kostkon> kroson_, nice
[21:22] <aleksandar22> xangua: will the upgrade dialog ask for restart?
[21:22] <andyc101> Logan. Been there. It's empty
[21:22] <Logan_> andyc101: Not for me... There are 398 people in there.
[21:22] <kroson_> aleksandar22: yes, when it ends
[21:22] <xangua> i have leave it alone and regretted it aleksandar22
[21:23] <yayLINUX> anyone has the same problem?
[21:23] <Yugnoswam> How do I installed Ubuntu for dual-boot when I already have WinXP using a USB Pen Drive?
[21:23] <aleksandar22> xangua: ok thanks
[21:23] <yayLINUX> you can choose it when you are installing ubuntu yugnosawm
[21:24] <Fluggs> is there already a way to create a live usb stick for 12.10 on a windows machine?
[21:24] <Yugnoswam> yayLINUX: I can't find the download for USB on the ubuntu site, would you mind linking me?
[21:24] <yayLINUX> uhm I think you can just use the normal file
[21:24] <yayLINUX> iso
[21:24] <yayLINUX> But I had a problem whith it when I tried it with my USB
[21:24] <Vert_> Fluggs: google penDriveLinux
[21:24] <Fluggs> thanks
[21:24] <Yugnoswam> yayLINUX: :/ Damn
[21:24] <Vert_> they have apps that make it super easy
[21:24] <yayLINUX> I tried it with yumi and unetbootin and it all went wrong
[21:25] <yayLINUX> it all said: unable to find live system or something like that
[21:25] <Vert_> yayLINUX: I've never had any issues
[21:25] <yayLINUX> I downloaded the torrent one
[21:25] <xangua> !usb | Fluggs
[21:25] <yayLINUX> maybe that is the problem
[21:25] <Yugnoswam> ubottu: persistent?
[21:26] <xangua> yayLINUX: did you check the integrity of the isso¿ tried the usb tool that comes in ubuntu¿
[21:26] <xangua> iso*
[21:26] <Vert_> Yugnoswam: That means you can save stuff to the USB disk
[21:26] <neo_> 12.10 Unity doesn"t work!
[21:26] <Vert_> Yugnoswam: and keep setting's from time to time, as opposed to a live cd, where it's all static
[21:26] <neo_> pfff
[21:26] <erictr1ck> my "Getting new packages" is stuck on file 84 for like an hour now :(
[21:26] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I need some help BIGTIME.
[21:27] <neo_> does ubuntu have #unity channel
[21:27] <Vert_> Hishamoto_Masuki: Don't ask to ask, just ask
[21:27] <neo_> this is insane
[21:27] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, yessir. I just installed PlayOnLinux, and every time I run it it does nothing.
[21:27] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Nothing at all, nothing comes up...
[21:27] <Yugnoswam> Vert_: So do I just download the ISO, put it on a USB Drive, set my laptop to boot from USB first? When I do that will the installed let me choose which partition to install it to? I don't want it overriding WinXP
[21:27] <WeThePeople> startup apps not running, have looked at the startup applications and everything is fine there, any ideas
[21:27] <kroson_> neo_: what happened when you installed nvidia driver? still the same problem?
[21:28] <zykotick9> Hishamoto_Masuki: start it from a terminal, look for error output.
[21:28] <Praxi> has development stopped on Chromium and I should be using Chrome now?
[21:28] <Vert_> Yugnoswam: If you are afraid of overwriting XP and you already have XP installed, use wubi
[21:28] <Hishamoto_Masuki> How do I start it from Terminal
[21:28] <aleksandar22> Praxi: no
[21:28] <WeThePeople>  could i reinstall anything to make this work?
[21:28] <aleksandar22> chromium is the base for chrome
[21:28] <Yugnoswam> Vert_: Well I just want to know if it lets me select a partition
[21:28] <neo_> @kroson_: almost the same. now i can see background and when i hit alt+f2 i can see run txtbox bottom right
[21:28] <aleksandar22> so no chrome without chromium
[21:28] <zykotick9> Praxi: Google-chrome is based off of chromium.  aleksandar22 backwards!
[21:28] <Vert_> Yugnoswam: It does, but it also lets you select the wrong paration
[21:28] <Vert_> Yugnoswam: So be very careful
[21:28] <kroson_> neo_: very strange behavior, unity channel is #ubuntu-unity
[21:28] <neo_> @kroson_: but i cant run any gui program...
[21:28] <Yugnoswam> Vert_: I'm not a moron though lol
[21:29] <Praxi> somebody in here a while ago said to use chrome for some reason over chromium, and I can't for the life of me remember why.  Driving me nuts
[21:29] <aleksandar22> PDF viewer
[21:29] <Yugnoswam> Vert_: And I've labelled the partitions as "Windows XP" and "Linux Ubuntu" already
[21:29] <neo_> @kroson_: should I ask there for help?
[21:29] <kroson_> neo_: and here too
[21:29] <zykotick9> Praxi: chrome isn't supported in #ubuntu, chromium from repos is.  Might be something to consider.
[21:29] <bekks> Praxi: One reason might be the PepperFlash plugin.
[21:29] <kroson_> Praxi: i can only think of PepperFlash
[21:29] <Vert_> Yugnoswam: If you've already made and labelled the partitions, I for see no issues
[21:29] <dr_willis> Yugnoswam:  ive gotten into the habbit of NOT using spaces in partion labels. ;)
[21:29] <Endafy> so yay new Ubuntu, which nvidia driver do I use
[21:30] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help. How do I run the application in Terminal? It's on my desktop
[21:30] <kroson_> Endafy: which is your graphics card?
[21:30] <Praxi> not sure what pepperflash is!  will have to go read I guess :)
[21:30] <yehauyen> how can i change my username in ubuntu?
[21:30] <Yugnoswam> dr_willis: Yeah I used underscores but meh, im lazy to press shift.
[21:30] <neo_> @kroson_: oh yes, i forgot to mention: i have different (bigger) fonts here in irssi so i think maybe display driver is not the problem?
[21:30] <Endafy> I have reinstalled Ubuntu twice now because after installing a driver it goes to 1024 x 768
[21:30] <zykotick9> dr_willis: all my labels are single words ;)
[21:30] <dr_willis> Praxi:  googles built in flash for their browser
[21:30] <erictr1ck> how much risk am i at if i cancel the 12.10 upgrade during the "getting new packages" step?
[21:30] <Endafy> and shows nothing
[21:30] <kroson_> neo_: no idea, sorry :(
[21:30] <Vert_> erictr1ck: None as it hasn't done anything yet
[21:30] <zykotick9> yehauyen: i'd suggest you simply create a new user, and move files myself.
[21:31] <Endafy> does anyone out there have an nvidia 550 or newer card
[21:31] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help. How do run an app with Terminal?!
[21:31] <Endafy> what version of the driver should I use
[21:31] <kroson_> Endafy: what ubuntu version? and which version of driver?
[21:31] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  figure out what the launcher is launching  and type the command at the terminal
[21:31] <Endafy> 12.10 obviously
[21:31] <kroson_> and downloaded driver from nvidia website, or repositories?
[21:31] <Hishamoto_Masuki> What is the command?
[21:31] <Endafy> and im asking you what version of the driver should I use
[21:31] <Hishamoto_Masuki> dr_willis: What's the command?
[21:31] <Endafy> I have a gtx 550
[21:31] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  NO idea what launcher you are refering to...
[21:31] <kroson_> Hishamoto_Masuki: just write the name of the app
[21:31] <Endafy> ive used "reccomended
[21:31] <Hishamoto_Masuki> The program is on my desktop
[21:31] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Oh...
[21:31] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  look in the .desktop file of your launcher
[21:32] <zykotick9> kroson_: "downladed driver from nvidia website" is unsupported here.  and IMO a BAD idea on ubuntu.
[21:32] <roylaprattep> i just installed dovecot from ubuntu 12.04
[21:32] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It says there is a 1615 segmentation fault, how do I fix that?
[21:32] <roylaprattep> i cannot make imaps to work... only imap currently working
[21:32] <Yugnoswam> Vert_: ironically, Linux's servers are rather slow for their software being mainly used on servers lol
[21:32] <kroson_> zykotick9: i know that, but he could have gone that way
[21:32] <roylaprattep> someone can help me ?
[21:32] <roylaprattep> how do we add protocols to dovecot 2.0 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:32] <Endafy> im gunna try this 1 more time
[21:33] <kroson_> Endafy: if you have that card, and used the recommended method, don't see why it doesn't work. Is it nvidia optimus?
[21:33] <zykotick9> kroson_: sorry, my bad.  you where asking a follow up question ;)  guess i should have addressed Endafy (but that woulnd't have made any sense yet).  sorry man.
[21:33] <Endafy> ill try the experimental vdpau driver
[21:33] <chovynz> I have a bunch of music on my ubuntu box that I would like served. How do I go about this? what program do I use to serve and what program do I use to receive?
[21:33] <Endafy> if it doesnt work than Ubuntu is more headache than Windows 8 lmao
[21:33] <kroson_> zykotick9: no problem :)
[21:33] <Endafy> at least with Windows 8 my computer works
[21:33] <dr_willis> chovynz:  depends on what clients you plan on using to listen to them
[21:34] <wifioregon> I was just upgrading to 12.10 when my son decided to play a Windows game with wine.  THe game froze and when I killed it, the PC restarted in the middle of the upgrade.  I ran all the various commands to fix it. but it keeps having problems with installing isc-dhcp-server and now I cant get on the internet at all.  (wifi or eth). Any ideas on what I can do?  Is there some kind of repair install option I can use with a disc?
[21:34] <dr_willis> chovynz:  the various UPNP/DLNA servers can serv them to many devices
[21:34] <Endafy> this installation has been more of a migraine than Windows ever has
[21:34] <erictr1ck> Vert, have you gone through the upgrade yet?
[21:34] <kroson_> Endafy: when you install nvidia driver
[21:34] <Vert_> erictr1ck: In the middle of downloading it right now
[21:34] <kroson_> you go to software sources, then the recommended driver right? in "additional drivers"
[21:34] <chovynz> dr_willis: what is DLNA?
[21:34] <Endafy> restarting now
[21:34] <kroson_> then you reboot, and only get 1024x768?
[21:35] <chovynz> !upnp
[21:35] <kostkon> chovynz, you can setup a daap share in rhythmbox, for example.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> wow sub 2000 users, expected more
[21:35] <wifioregon> DOes 12.10 have some kind of repair install feature? WHere I could boot to a live disc and repair the current instllation?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: you can chroot from the liveCD to the installed OS and do stuff
[21:36] <chovynz> !info mediatomb
[21:36] <wifioregon> ActionParsnip:  sdo I have to mount the HD first?
[21:36] <chovynz> !daap | me
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> or use samba and you can stream using that
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: yes
[21:37] <zykotick9> !msgthebot | chovynz
[21:37] <Endafy> this right here is why people dont use Ubuntu
[21:37] <Endafy> it doesnt work
[21:37] <wifioregon> ActionParsnip:  k thanks I'll try.
[21:37] <Endafy> you seriously need to fix this damn OS
[21:37] <chovynz> works fine for me endafy
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   has a chrooting how to, it then shows an install of grub, but you won't need that
[21:37] <wifioregon> ActionParsnip:  thanks
[21:37] <kroson_> wait
[21:37] <kroson_> Endafy:
[21:37] <Endafy> chovynz: nvidia drivers crash the OS
[21:38] <Vert_> Endafy: Ubuntu does tend to have more then it's fair share of hard fails when it decides not to work
[21:38] <chovynz> Endafy: you've updated to 12.10?
[21:38] <erictr1ck>  Vert_: yeah, i started this morning, now at file 85...
[21:38] <Endafy> I seriously dont know what the fuck to do short of reinstall
[21:38] <Endafy> um yes
[21:38] <kroson_> Endafy: you said you had problems with resolution, what is your problem afterall?
[21:38] <Endafy> clean install
[21:38] <xangua> !language | Endafy
[21:38] <neo_> wait a minute, theres no person that can help me here on #ubuntu channel?? pfff
[21:38] <Endafy> I install the nvidia driver after a fresh install and the OS craps out
[21:38] <Vert_> erictr1ck: slow internet connection?
[21:38] <Endafy> every version in Additional Drivers
[21:39] <Endafy> ive tried them all
[21:39] <Endafy> nothing works
[21:39] <kroson_> Endafy: you have to use the current one, first
[21:39] <kroson_> and only that one
[21:39] <WeThePeople> i have chrooted into my ubuntu partition, what can i check to help solve this problem?
[21:39] <Endafy> ive been at this since I got the iso earlier
[21:39] <kroson_> not 2
[21:39] <kroson_> and then you reboot, and what do you get?
[21:39] <Fluxarray> bglazer: here I am again, after following the instructions in the link you provided, the brightness buttons don't register at all anymore. :(
[21:39] <Endafy> this is bullshit
[21:39] <chovynz> Endafy: first thing you need to do is go for a walk, get some fresh air.
[21:40] <erictr1ck> Vert_: actually my connection seems fine. was thinking it was the ubuntu servers. but i guess if your download speed is fine, i dont know what the issue is
[21:40] <Endafy> you wonder why people never use Linux, and especially after such a claim "avoid the headache of Windows 8" this shit makes me sick
[21:40] <Praxi> when adding a user via commandline does using the --group flag create the group if it doesn't exist?
[21:40] <chovynz> Endafy: all these people are volunteers and it doesn't help YOU, to vomit your anger all over them.
[21:40] <Endafy> its like a bunch of 5 year old children designing a crap os without understanding how to code in the first place
[21:40] <iceroot> Praxi: is there no entry in the manpage about --group?
[21:40] <Vert_> erictr1ck: My connection speed is hovering at >200Kbit/s
[21:40] <Endafy> well make it fucking work because I paid money this time
[21:40] <iceroot> Endafy: stop flaming please
[21:41] <kroson_> Endafy: so you came here to criticize, not to get help
[21:41] <Endafy> not when I paid 100 bucks to them
[21:41] <xangua> !ops | Endafy
[21:41] <Vert_> erictr1ck: But then there are lots of servers, so maybe disconnect and retry?
[21:41] <zykotick9> Praxi: if you want you user to be "ubuntu-like" i'd strong recommend you use "adduser" and not "useradd".
[21:41] <Endafy> I want help I want it to work "without headache"
[21:41] <chovynz> Endafy: this is the incorrect place to do what you are doing
[21:41] <Endafy> that means 0 input from me
[21:41] <Fluxarray> Endafy: test first pay later
[21:41] <iceroot> Endafy: stop it!
[21:41] <Endafy> make it work
[21:41] <kroson_> this is not a flaming channel, like you there are many users here asking for support about their ubuntu installations
[21:41] <progre55> hi guys. As far as I remember, for upgrading from an LTS to a next version, you need to set to upgrade to non-LTS in some file, right? but where?
[21:41] <wols> Endafy: then behave like an adult and not a spoiled brat
[21:41] <iceroot> Endafy: post usefull questions with usefull details or stop chatting here please
[21:41]  * dr_willis wants paid also..
[21:41] <kroson_> and they are not being childish like you, so behave if you want to be helped
[21:41] <bekks> Endafy: If you paid for it at Canonical, then contact Canonical support.
[21:41] <Endafy> I did
[21:41] <chovynz> Endafy: this is the free, volunteery help section
[21:41] <Praxi> zykotick9, its actually a service account, so don't care too much :)
[21:42] <Fluxarray> bglazer: here I am again, after following the instructions in the link you provided, the brightness buttons don't register at all anymore. :(
[21:42] <Endafy> I tried every nvidia driver after a fresh install every time with my nvidia gtx 550 card
[21:42] <bkerensa> Endafy: please stop now
[21:42] <neo_> Anyone! Please instruct what can I do to make my Unity run??
[21:42] <bkerensa> !guidelines > Endafy
[21:42] <Fluxarray> Endafy: vtk
[21:42] <Endafy> it boots to a screen with just a mouse cursor at 1024x768 with NOTHING else on the screen
[21:42] <Endafy> what do I do
[21:42] <bkerensa> !justask | Endafy
[21:42] <neo_> @Endafy, i have that same problem
[21:42] <zykotick9> Praxi: i would "expect" (but don't know), that useradd "might" create the group as well (so long as you give it the correct switch ;)
[21:42] <fellayaboy> can i add another hard drive to my system, create a raid, without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[21:43] <bglazer> Fluxarray: sorry! I'm not sure what another solution would be.
[21:43] <neo_> so obviously its nvidia driver is the problem
[21:43] <bekks> fellayaboy: Which RAID level do you want?
[21:43] <iceroot> fellayaboy: yes you can add it and build a software raid without reinstall
[21:43] <dr_willis> neo_:  sounds like compiz is perhaps failing to start due to somthing with the 3d driver support.
[21:43] <Endafy> you cant claim "avoid headaches of Windows" with releasing something like this ASKING FOR MONEY
[21:43] <xangua> progre55: software center-edit-sources-update tab
[21:43] <Praxi> I'm reading the man page now for adduser, dang iceroot for making me RTFm
[21:43] <Praxi> M
[21:43] <progre55> xangua: appreciate!
[21:43] <neo_> @dr_willis: how can I disable Compiz?
[21:43] <iceroot> !ops | Endafy (he is ignoring to stop flaming)
[21:43] <bkerensa> Endafy: I will ask you again please follow the channel guidelines this is not the right chanel
[21:43] <bkerensa> iceroot: Thanks were here.
[21:43] <fellayaboy> does one harddrive have to be a master and the other a slave? im using ide....
[21:43] <dr_willis> neo_:  for a temp fix. you could resort to using Unity2d.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: Ubuntu doesn't ask for money
[21:43] <neo_> @dr_willis: and can I install gnome3 or xfce?
[21:44] <dr_willis> neo_:  what is your video chipset?
[21:44] <bekks> Endafy: fellayaboy Which RAID level do you want?
[21:44] <Endafy> ActionParsnip: it certainly does
[21:44] <neo_> @dr_willis: nvidia 8600gt
[21:44] <dr_willis> neo_:  you can install as many desktops as you want.
[21:44] <iceroot> bkerensa: then do your job :)
[21:44] <Endafy> go to the download area
[21:44] <Fluxarray> bglazer: no problem... I'm just sick off windows and as a java dev I can't really live with my system almost grinding to a halt when opening a FJrame with proprietary drivers. The X.org ones work fire but I can't adjust the brightness which is just a shame
[21:44] <bekks> fellayaboy: I just meant you, sorry.
[21:44] <Endafy> it explicitly asks for money
[21:44] <kroson_> Endafy: you could start by asking everything on the same line. Second, you could try to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: Ive never paid in the 5 years I've used Ubuntu
[21:44] <Endafy> I cant read anything
[21:44] <Praxi> they put up a donation link ActionParsnip
[21:44] <chovynz> neither
[21:44] <Endafy> I cant get my desktop working
[21:44] <iceroot> bkerensa: because of him here is a big discussion/flame without him it would be much nicer here, so feel free to do your job on him
[21:44] <Fluxarray> Endafy: you can skip the payment, stop being a troll
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: how is that money?
[21:44] <fellayaboy> well im new to raid..but i want to use 2 hard drives as one...thats it...no backups no thing just a simple 2 hard drives as one
[21:44] <zykotick9> Praxi: where do you see a donation for ubuntu?
[21:45] <Boreeas> Ah, if only ubuntu would solve hibernation as well as windows :/
[21:45] <neo_> @dr_willis: lol i know i can... can i disable compiz or unity works on compiz?
[21:45] <dr_willis> neo_:  seems theres some known bugs with that card.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/661248
[21:45] <Praxi> I didn't see it, but read about it on slashdot zykotick9
[21:45] <zykotick9> Praxi: i doubt that...
[21:45] <bekks> fellayaboy: Do you want a stripe, or a mirror?
[21:45] <dr_willis> neo_:  as i mentoned UNITY2d does not use compiz
[21:45] <WeThePeople> how would i reinstall lucid without it messin with my hdd
[21:45] <fellayaboy> no mirror
[21:45] <fellayaboy> idk what a stripe is
[21:45] <iceroot> fellayaboy: you really want raid? or do you mean lvm?
[21:45] <bekks> fellayaboy: Then you have to reinstall.
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: if you install xfce4 package in a CTRL+ALT+F1 screen, you can install xfce4 which doesn't need compositing and will give you a desktop
[21:45] <WeThePeople> files
[21:45] <neo_> @dr_willis: how can i run unity2d? (i have 12.10)
[21:45] <WeThePeople> and stuff
[21:45] <zykotick9> Praxi: you can't "donate" to a business.  it's not allowed.
[21:45] <savr> hi
[21:45] <dr_willis> neo_:  xfce also does not use compiz
[21:45] <Endafy> thanks
[21:45] <dr_willis> neo_:  install unity2d ;)
[21:46] <Endafy> so sudo apt-get install xfce?
[21:46] <kroson_> Endafy: gnome-session-fallback is an option too
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: when have you paid for Ubuntu?
[21:46] <fellayaboy> well..i have a  hard drive thats 20 gbs and another thats 30gb...i want to add both so they run as one 50gb
[21:46] <szal> zykotick9: in what country?
[21:46] <Praxi> pay what you want thing similar to humble bundel then
[21:46] <dr_willis> unity-2d - transitional dummy package
[21:46] <zykotick9> szal: hopefully all.  but certainly in canada.
[21:46] <bekks> fellayaboy: Then you dont want RAID, but LVM. And a working backup.
[21:46] <fellayaboy> hmmm
[21:46] <savr> does it make any sense to install something like juju on my server if I am just using it to deploy a wordpress blog and some other sites?
[21:46] <neo_> @dr_willis: can you please send me the bug link?
[21:46] <fellayaboy> you have info on lvm bekks
[21:46] <iceroot> fellayaboy: then you have to reinstall or you are just mounting the other drive somewhere in the filesystem where you need 30gb
[21:46] <bekks> !lvm | fellayaboy
[21:46] <fellayaboy> naaahhh
[21:47] <Praxi> zykotick9, http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=ubuntu+donation  "ubuntu asks users to pay what they want"
[21:47] <savr> i have only one server now but one of the sites may grow to a few servers
[21:47] <wN> lvm++
[21:47] <Fluxarray> bglazer: found another grub adjustment, rebooting now
[21:47] <dr_willis> neo_:  seems a little old. but i recall seeing others with that chipset having issues in the past   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/661248D
[21:47] <xangua> Praxi: you know the diference between pay and donate right¿
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Endafy: you do know that Ubuntu is free to use and download, you don't have to pay. Not even for support (unless you want to)
[21:47] <Hishamoto_Masuki> HELP. Every time I start up playonlinux it give me this error message: line 141:  2063 Segmentation fault      "$PythonBin" mainwindow.py "$@"
[21:47] <fellayaboy> i want to install programs from uubntu..i dont want to use it just for space but for the filesystem...so that i can install programs if i run out of space too u know
[21:47] <Hishamoto_Masuki> HELP
[21:47] <Endafy> installing xfce now
[21:47] <Praxi> grammar nazi's
[21:47] <wN> i have 2x2TB disk and 3xTB disk 1 one lvm volume to make 1 large 7TB volume
[21:47] <cgtdk> I seem to be affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/1048701 I get to the screen where I can select if I want to try ubuntu or install it. No matter which I pick it screws up with the same error described in the bug report. I'm quite sure I can make Ubuntu work if I can install the proprietary Nvidia driver, but it's not very easy when you can't get into
[21:47] <dr_willis> neo_:  just been looking at askubuntu.com for info on it.
[21:47] <cgtdk> Ubuntu at all. I used to just get the alternative installer, but since Ubuntu doesn't have that option anymore, I'm not sure what to do.
[21:47] <zykotick9> Praxi: OMG.  sorry.  you where correct!
[21:47] <chovynz> gl Endafy
[21:47] <Hishamoto_Masuki> HELP. Every time I start up playonlinux it give me this error message: line 141:  2063 Segmentation fault      "$PythonBin" mainwindow.py "$@"
[21:48] <szal> !repeat | Hishamoto_Masuki
[21:48] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  id just use the normal wine, and not use playonlinux
[21:48] <Endafy> this shit needs to get worked out
[21:48] <fellayaboy> so imagine if i install programs more than 20bgb...then with the other hard drive i just install more u know
[21:48] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I need PlayOnLinux to install Steam though, don't I?
[21:48] <szal> Endafy: wash your mouth..
[21:48] <Endafy> you cant make such claims as avoiding headaches releasing anything less than working
[21:48] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  no you do not.
[21:48] <chovynz> maybe so Endafy or you could try buying a graphics card that is actually supported?
[21:48] <kroson_> Endafy: eventually it will, but flaming won't help you at all
[21:48] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  i never use playon linux, and i install the steam client all the time
[21:48] <Praxi> can't say I agree with Endafy, but was just saying, something is going on with ubuntu and money :)  I don't know the specifics, but when I am forced to pay x$ amount to run ubuntu, then I will complain about them asking for money hehe
[21:48] <Hishamoto_Masuki> How
[21:49] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Teach me how to install it? I have Xubuntu
[21:49] <neo_> how can i page up channel conversation in irssi? (someone)
[21:49] <Praxi> until then I could learn to code and make it better
[21:49] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  install wine,  then 'wine whatever.exe'
[21:49] <iceroot> neo_: page up/down
[21:49] <dr_willis> neo_:  shift pageup perhaps?
[21:49] <bekks> neo_: By pressinf the "page up" key.
[21:49] <kroson_> Hishamoto_Masuki: using winetricks
[21:49] <KiLuMnaTi> hey guys about to install ubuntu as a htpc.. and browsing too
[21:49] <Praxi> and yes iceroot the group creation was in the man page :)
[21:49] <dr_willis> !appdb | Hishamoto_Masuki
[21:49] <neo_> @iceroot: thank you :) (i tried shift pgup)
[21:49] <iceroot> Praxi: nice :)
[21:50] <chovynz> i can get lost in this room for ages...lol... not solving anything, just seeing all the problems people have
[21:50] <chovynz> time for me to do something useful. thanks all for the helps.
[21:50] <iceroot> neo_: ah ok, is there a program which is using that shortcut as default?
[21:50] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's installing!
[21:50] <cafree> Hi, I just upgraded to 12.04 and trying to learn about about Unity.  Is there a way to customize/control what events cause a notification?  Say, e-mail for example?
[21:50] <KiLuMnaTi> does it work good as a htpc HDMI out audio and some we browsing on tv
[21:50] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thank you!
[21:50] <KiLuMnaTi> ?
[21:50] <bglazer> exit
[21:50] <Praxi> hmm and slashdot called it a DONATION FORM, you guys are harsh today lol
[21:50] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  if you did not have wine installed.. makes me wonder what play on linux was trying to launch...
[21:51] <iceroot> dr_willis: playonlinux is using its own wine-installation called wine-prefix
[21:51] <iceroot> dr_willis: its not the default wine
[21:51] <Praxi> Hishamoto_Masuki, playonlinux has some really nice forums, were you unable to find an answer there?
[21:51] <dr_willis> iceroot:  so it pulled in a specific wine version from the repos when it got installed? or a differnt one then whats in the repos?
[21:51] <iceroot> dr_willis: thats the special about playonlinux to install a wine for each application
[21:51] <iceroot> dr_willis: different
[21:51] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I have 3.18 mbps download speed, what is it in kbs?
[21:51] <dr_willis> iceroot:   a whole 'wine-celler'
[21:51] <iceroot> dr_willis: it has its own wine build for every game
[21:52] <dr_willis> ;)
[21:52] <iceroot> dr_willis: yes
[21:52] <iceroot> :)
[21:52] <goddard> so is chrome os ubuntu based?
[21:52] <kroson_> dr_willis: i think it is compiled, could be wrong though
[21:52] <iceroot> goddard: no
[21:52] <goddard> iceroot: know if it could be converted?
[21:52] <iceroot> goddard: no
[21:53] <chovynz> when I try to "exit" out of a ssh session, the terminal says "there are stopped jobs". what does this mean and why won't it let me quit?
[21:53] <Praxi> goddard, are you talking about a chromebook?
[21:53] <goddard> yeah
[21:53] <goddard> Praxi: just came out i think
[21:53] <Vert> erictr1ck: The what?
[21:53] <cgtdk> Does Ubuntu 12.10 server still have the text based installer?
[21:53] <iceroot> chovynz: it means there are jobs in the background which will get killed when you exit the shell
[21:53] <paco1> hello @ll!
[21:53] <iceroot> chovynz: if you type exit again the session will get killed
[21:53] <Praxi> goddard chromebooks?  I've owned one for 6 months? now
[21:53] <Fluxarray> bglazer: Here I am yet again, reporting that the other change I found doesn't work either. I found this however, but I requires me to change the linux kernel and the post does not describe how to do it. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2012-July/025535.html
[21:54] <iceroot> chovynz: to avoid that programs are killed which you started in ssh use screen
[21:54] <iceroot> !screen | chovynz
[21:54] <chovynz> iceroot: what can i type to see what jobs are ... ?
[21:54] <Just[a]Guy> Hello there, can anyone help me to troubleshoot my network manager? For some reason it does not connect to my vpn from anonine.com (OpenVPN)
[21:54] <iceroot> chovynz: hm i only know to put them back in the foreground (fg)
[21:54] <neo_> @dr_willis: theres no unity2d in repo... just some transitional packages
[21:54] <varikonniemi> seems that all nvidia drivers silently fail to install and leave the desktop unloaded after reboot
[21:54] <Praxi> goddard http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/04/chrubuntu-1204-now-with-double-bits.html
[21:54] <iceroot> cgtdk: yes
[21:54] <goddard> Praxi: ok
[21:55] <Praxi> never used it myself though, just remember reading about it when I first got my chromebook
[21:55] <cgtdk> iceroot: great, then I can replace that awful nouveau driver with a proper (and sadly, proprietary) driver
[21:55] <paco1> im creating a dns test server with ubuntu 12.04. I have problems with the new resolvconf configuration. In fact, with ubuntu 10.04, with the same configs dns file, all works fine
[21:56] <neo_> @iceroot: should I try installing xfce?
[21:56] <paco1> but don't work with ubuntu 12.04
[21:56] <iceroot> neo_: for what reason?
[21:56] <chovynz> thanks iceroot that helped
[21:56] <neo_> @iceroot: because unity doesn't work...
[21:56] <iceroot> chovynz: great
[21:57] <iceroot> neo_: of course you can install xfce4 if you want it (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[21:57] <noiro> Just install gnome or kde. :P
[21:57] <Jimster480-Lapto> humble bundle is awesome
[21:57] <Jimster480-Lapto> beacuse the games always work on linux
[21:57] <Jimster480-Lapto> :D
[21:57] <goddard> Praxi: well they got a new one
[21:57] <Praxi> man I am really digging guake, I am having trouble finding if I can spawn another terminal with a key, anyone know?
[21:57] <noiro> I can't figure out how the heck to get GW2 running on Linux
[21:58] <goddard> 250 bucks
[21:58] <Praxi> goddard, new model? roger
[21:58] <GUIsSuck> Does the net installer for 12.10 use the text based installer? (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/12.10/)
[21:58] <noiro> what is guake?
[21:58] <neo_> @iceroot: i hope it will work but I'm so pissed off because when i ran live usb of 12.10, unity worked like a charm, now when i installed it over my 3 years old fedora, now it doesn't work
[21:58] <iceroot> GUIsSuck: yes
[21:58] <Jimster480-Lapto> anyone know where the memory management source files are in the kernel
[21:58] <GUIsSuck> iceroot: awesome
[21:58] <skyjumper> does anyone know how to actually change the cursor theme?
[21:59] <neo_> i'm so angry now for installing ubuntu :/
[21:59] <Jimster480-Lapto> why
[21:59] <WeThePeople> are there restore points in lucid
[21:59] <kroson_> neo_: don't be, you came to ubuntu for unity? If not, then probably other desktop environments will work ok
[21:59] <GUIsSuck> iceroot: now if only I could figure out which one of these is the net installer iso: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ :S
[22:00] <noiro> Who in their right mind would choose a distro just for the DE?
[22:00] <neo_> @kroson_: i came because i'm an old debian user :)
[22:00] <GUIsSuck> noiro: newbies, though it could be argued that they are not in their right mind
[22:00] <neo_> but i'm waiting for remix to install gnome3...
[22:00] <neo_> i don't like unity
[22:00] <D3RGPS31> GUIsSuck: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/gtk/mini.iso
[22:00] <kroson_> neo_: if you are an old user, you know how these things work in linux, sometimes. Also fedora isn't what you could call "rock solid" xD
[22:00] <GUIsSuck> D3RGPS31: thank you
[22:00] <Dino901> Doesn anyone here have experience using touchscreen display with Ubuntu?
[22:01] <Multbrelch> I have the cairo dock
[22:01] <D3RGPS31> GUIsSuck: don't thank me :v i may be wrong
[22:01] <Jimster480-Lapto> norio: thats half the point of the distro is the DE you want to use....
[22:01] <kroson_> neo_: just install it now then, what are you waiting for?
[22:01] <GUIsSuck> D3RGPS31: uh huh
[22:01] <GUIsSuck> hmm
[22:01] <D3RGPS31> GUIsSuck: :3
[22:01] <Praxi> noiro guake is a drop down terminal, similar to a Quake console from back in the day.  http://guake.org/
[22:01] <neo_> @kroson_:agree, on fedora solidity :)
[22:01] <tgm4883> Jimster480-Lapto, not really
[22:01] <Jimster480-Lapto> neo_: you can instal gnome 3 now
[22:01] <hpram99_> ok, so unity still won't load
[22:01] <neo_> it's a red-hat playground
[22:01] <hpram99_> I'm back to fglrx-legacy
[22:01] <GUIsSuck> D3RGPS31: there's also a mini.iso in: /ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot (i.e., the dir above gtk/)
[22:01] <neo_> @Jimster480-Lapto: why it isn't in the repo
[22:02] <hpram99_> I get a desktop, my files, but no dock
[22:02] <Jimster480-Lapto> tgm4883: there are so many distros with similar software compatibility these days that really you want one with the software compatibiliity.
[22:02] <Multbrelch> gnome classic + cairo = fast and quite nice
[22:02] <OerHeks> Dino901, i don't .. best suggestion is #ubuntu-touch irc here on #freenode
[22:02] <neo_> or am I missing somethin :)
[22:02] <Jimster480-Lapto> and the desktop that you want on it, thats why you choose a distro
[22:02] <Dino901> @OerHeks - Thanks.  Didnt spot that channel
[22:02] <varikonniemi> the amazon and ubuntu one music buttons work only with firefox as they are supposed to, if chromium is default browser they open up a new browser icon in launcher
[22:02] <tgm4883> Jimster480-Lapto, if you say so
[22:02] <varikonniemi> what package to file bug report against?
[22:03] <neo_> rebooting with xfce, wish me luck :)
[22:03] <GUIsSuck> neo_: done :)
[22:03] <Jimster480-Lapto> tgm4883: for servers its completely different. its about security and stability aswell as software compatibility.
[22:03] <Jimster480-Lapto> so a distro like CentOS is king
[22:03] <Jimster480-Lapto> luck wished.
[22:03] <kroson_> also gnome 3 is partially installed already, he only needed gnome-shell
[22:03] <D3RGPS31> GUIsSuck: thank you :V
[22:04] <GUIsSuck> D3RGPS31: for what?
[22:04] <tgm4883> Jimster480-Lapto, I still disagree, you may choose a 'flavor' because of the DE, but choosing/changing an entire distro on something that can be easily changed seems foolish
[22:04] <D3RGPS31> GUIsSuck: telling me where the ISO image is :3
[22:04] <iceroot> GUIsSuck: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[22:04] <iceroot> !mini | GUIsSuck
[22:04] <GUIsSuck> D3RGPS31: I don't know :P I just pointed out that there are several
[22:04] <GUIsSuck> iceroot:  thanks
[22:04] <kroson_> Jimster480-Lapto: humble bundle is awesome :). And we will have steam soon
[22:04] <Sicp> what do I need to be able to SSH to my machine using its public IP address?
[22:04] <Andrei_> hello
[22:05] <Andrei_> =)
[22:05] <Andrei_> can any1 help me?
[22:05] <GUIsSuck> iceroot:  what is the different between netboot/mini.iso and netboot/gtk/mini.iso ?
[22:05] <iceroot> Sicp: openssh-server installed and the router configured to forward port 22
[22:05] <Sicp> alright
[22:05] <GUIsSuck> iceroot:  does the gtk/ one have a GUI?
[22:05] <iceroot> GUIsSuck: think so
[22:05] <Sicp> ok
[22:05] <iceroot> GUIsSuck: but never used the gtk version
[22:05] <GUIsSuck> iceroot: ok, I'll make sure to avoid that one then
[22:05] <iceroot> !details | Andrei_
[22:05] <GUIsSuck> thanks for helping me out
[22:05] <iceroot> GUIsSuck: :)
[22:05] <iceroot> GUIsSuck: you are welcome
[22:06] <neo_> @iceroot: xfce works ok but i really didn't expected this..
[22:06] <ment0s> hello
[22:06] <kroson_> neo_: you want gnome 3? you already have it. What you need is gnome-shell, 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell'
[22:06] <ment0s> Does anyone have experience with webvirtmgr ?
[22:07] <neo_> @kroson_: thanks, i'll install it then... i thought it is not yet ready for 12.10
[22:07] <Andrei_> hmm ok... Im running ubuntu 12.04 and... well everything is fine exept when i try to boot on my desktop ( i know is related to the graphic card ) but i cant enter ubuntu to fix... getting a message "out of range 92.3khx / 58kHz"
[22:08] <kroson_> neo_: you didn't enjoy the xfce interface? of course it is not as user-friendly as others, out-of-the-box, requires time to customize
[22:08] <neo_> @kroson_: i never liked it... for thin versions, i use fluxbox or some other window manager
[22:08] <D3RGPS31> neo_: could look into openbox :v
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Andrei_: what video chip do you use?
[22:09] <Andrei_> GTX 560
[22:09] <neo_> @D3RGPS31: like it also :)
[22:09] <neo_> with some additional packages
[22:10] <skyjumper> anyone else having trouble with the 'open terminal' keyboard shortcut?
[22:10] <skyjumper> in quantal
[22:10] <roylaprattep> Hi, I just installed dovecot from ubuntu 12.04 and my "doveconf -n" show me "protocols = " imap"". I want to know how to enable "imaps" please..
[22:10] <mah454> Hello ...
[22:11] <mah454> I use ubuntu 12.04 (64bit) . I have problem with flash player on this architecture (64bit)
[22:11] <mah454> flashplayer crash on all browsers ...
[22:12] <mah454> I use Firefox , Opera , Chrome , chromium , ....
[22:12] <Fizzik> hmm 12.10 is out i wonder if i should upgrade
[22:12] <mah454> 32bit version have not this problem but 64 bit always crash !
[22:12] <szal> mah454: 64bit Flash player, or 32bit Flash player in 64bit execution container (there was a name for that, but I don't remember it)?
[22:13] <kroson_> szal: was it nspluginwrapper?
[22:13] <szal> kroson_: sounds about right
[22:13] <mah454> szal: this : /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
[22:14] <Jimster480-Lapto> well
[22:14] <Jimster480-Lapto> im going to change some code in the kernel and see how it turns out
[22:14] <Jimster480-Lapto> wish me luck
[22:14] <szal> mah454: complain to Adobe; they delivered a crappy final release, then announced Flash player for Linux to be EOL
[22:14] <KiLuMnaTi> hey guys do you guys recommend Ubuntu as a htpc?
[22:14] <KiLuMnaTi> how is audio setup on hdmi video cards
[22:14] <Jimster480-Lapto> uh, its not bad as a htpc, depends on the hardware though.
[22:14] <KiLuMnaTi> as its going to my reciver
[22:14] <zykotick9> KiLuMnaTi: ask in ##linux for a little less biased opinion ;)
[22:14] <Jimster480-Lapto> i have no issues with Sound via HDMI on my AMD card
[22:15] <varikonniemi> is thunderbird mail not integrated anymore in the messaging menu? at first the whole menu was gone, but when i launched thunderbird it appeared with only the option to launch thunderbird
[22:15] <Jimster480-Lapto> but fglrx is something you might want
[22:15] <Andrei_> ok.... can i edit my kernel on windows?
[22:15] <KiLuMnaTi> Jimster480 ill be using nvidia gt520
[22:15] <Jimster480-Lapto> because the standard xorg-radeon isnt that great
[22:15] <szal> zykotick9: perhaps less biased, but pretty surely more elitist ;)
[22:15] <Jimster480-Lapto> and you cannot edit the kernel on widnows.
[22:15] <szal> Andrei_: define 'edit'
[22:15] <Jimster480-Lapto> I am not sure about Nvidia cards never used one with HDMI out on linux.
[22:15] <Jimster480-Lapto> with the Android TV boxes being so cheap these days though it doesnt really make sense to build a HTPC
[22:15] <Andrei_> szal: well.... i need to add nomodeset to it
[22:16] <belgianguy> nice one 12.10!
[22:16] <E_dog_12> what exactly is an HTPC?
[22:16] <CrOOgie> hello! Anyone have idea why for me "add-apt-repository" command just dissapeard after ubuntu update? I had small problems with update but now it's working on but without that command.
[22:16] <zykotick9> szal: discussing anything but ubuntu issues is OT here... so, for any distro recommendation you should be asking elsewhere.  i don't personally frequent ##linux myself, so can't speak to it's regulars ;)
[22:16] <belgianguy> finally my fglrx doesn't crash anymore
[22:16] <KiLuMnaTi> Jimster480-Lapto i got a pc hooked up to my onkyo reciver
[22:16] <Jimster480-Lapto> oh so you already have a HTPC?
[22:16] <Jimster480-Lapto> what is on it right now?
[22:16] <iceroot> CrOOgie: /usr/bin/add-apt-repository  does that file exist?
[22:17] <KiLuMnaTi> hackintosh
[22:17] <KiLuMnaTi> but want to switch to linux
[22:17] <KiLuMnaTi> having audio issues
[22:17] <Jimster480-Lapto> linux way better than hackintosh
[22:17] <Jimster480-Lapto> i was gonna say Windows (i know thats taboo here) is great for HTPC with the right options and config
[22:17] <D3RGPS31> Jimster480-Lapto: opinion :V
[22:17] <Jimster480-Lapto> well Mac OS is a bad operating system by fact. So idk
[22:18] <CrOOgie> iceroot: nope :/
[22:18] <Jimster480-Lapto> they take the greatness of BSD and strip all the great out. and then sell it
[22:18] <SolarisB1y> its unix with crap on top ;<
[22:18] <D3RGPS31> SolarisB1y: well-polished crap :l
[22:18] <Jimster480-Lapto> Ubuntu isnt bad for a HTPC for what you want to do. and its minimal config.
[22:18] <SolarisB1y> linux makes a pretty kik booty htpc if you want a cool one
[22:18] <szal> iceroot, CrOOgie: how about '/usr/bin/apt-add-repository'?
[22:18] <SolarisB1y> http://liquidgalaxy.endpoint.com/ || powered by ubuntu
[22:18] <KiLuMnaTi> okay i thought it has hdmi audio configuration issues
[22:19] <Flynsarmy> SolarisB1y: speaking of which, will be building one of these bad boys tomorrow http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=141369
[22:19] <neo_> @iceroot: installed gnome3 (feelgood :)). how can I completely remove xfce and its deps?
[22:19] <SolarisB1y> that does games and panoramic video too =)
[22:19] <Jimster480-Lapto> nah i dont have any hdmi config issues. but like i said im on AMD graphics and not Nvidia. But as far as i know
[22:19] <belgianguy> is there a way to force FF to show possible Web App dialogs again?
[22:19] <SolarisB1y> Flynsarmy: sweet
[22:19] <belgianguy> I'm trying to get the one for Grooveshark
[22:19] <KiLuMnaTi> im installing it on a intel dg33tl board and asus nvidia gt520 card
[22:19] <Jimster480-Lapto> Nvidia has way better support on nix than AMD, so I dont see how you would have an issue
[22:19] <belgianguy> but I can't get it to show
[22:20] <KiLuMnaTi> thanks Jimster480-Lapto
[22:20] <CrOOgie> szal: even yours doesn't exists
[22:20] <Jimster480-Lapto> KiLuMnaTi: no problem
[22:20] <KiLuMnaTi> this channel is really busy and active
[22:20] <Jimster480-Lapto> at the moment it is atleast.
[22:20] <KiLuMnaTi> luv it
[22:20] <Jimster480-Lapto> there arent that many people talking considering 1600 people in here lolol
[22:20] <iceroot> neo_: on 12.10?
[22:20] <neo_> yes
[22:21] <zykotick9> Flynsarmy: although xbmc has the best features, i find it's stabilty (or lack there of) outweighs it's benefits.  best of luck.  mythtv and freevo are other options to consider, not as flashy/featureful but a lot more stable.  YMMV!
[22:21] <kroson_> neo_: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xubuntu-* && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xfce*
[22:21] <iceroot> !puregnome | neo_ (just use the remove part for xubuntu-desktop, the long command)
[22:21] <neo_> i did apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop and autoclean but it removed just xfce
[22:21] <Flynsarmy> zykotick9: do they have android app remotes that also let you turn the machien on and off?
[22:21] <KiLuMnaTi> ya first need to get ubuntu installed
[22:21] <iceroot> neo_: removing the metapackage xubuntu-desktop will not remove xfce or anything from that
[22:21] <KiLuMnaTi> then will look into which program to use with htpc
[22:22] <zykotick9> Flynsarmy: no android here.  best of luck.
[22:22] <KiLuMnaTi> xbmc is what i am using now
[22:22] <neo_> @kroson_: thank you
[22:23] <kroson_> neo_: i'm not sure it will remove everything, probably not
[22:23] <Jimster480-Lapto> brb shower
[22:23] <kroson_> so check out the link on puregnome too
[22:23] <neo_> @kroson_: i'm fine with this (freed about 100M)
[22:24] <CrOOgie> szal, iceroot: I think that 'apt-utils' package solved my problem ;)
[22:24] <kroson_> neo_: nice :)
[22:24] <kroson_> so you are fine now with gnome 3? glad
[22:25] <neo_> i was using gnome 3 on fedora for some time...
[22:25] <pogno> i use gnome classic
[22:25] <neo_> it's not bad... but it's SID :)
[22:25] <iceroot> CrOOgie: ah ok, good to know
[22:26] <asif> hi
[22:26] <never_ever> hi
[22:26] <neo_> does Ubuntu have something like Autoplus in Fedora?
[22:26] <pogno> for me is bad..gnome 3 have a bad organized
[22:26] <asif> i am asif new in this chat room please help me
[22:26] <kroson_> neo_: what do you want to install?
[22:27] <Fudge> asif  the way it works is you ask your question with as much info as you can
[22:27] <neo_> @kroson_: maybe skype, codecs, vlc, google-earth and programs like that
[22:27] <Fudge> pogno  what have you lost
[22:27] <neo_> but in one click if possible :D
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> neo_: what is autoplus?
[22:27] <neo_> search for autoplus for fedora
[22:27] <pogno> fudge ?!
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> neo_: you can install google-earth and skype from the partner repo
[22:28] <Andrei_> guys i need help i cant got "out of range" on GRUB and i cant boot to fix this
[22:28] <kroson_> ActionParsnip: a GUI script to add repositories with nonfree content in fedora and install, among other tweaks
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> neo_: vlc is in the default repos as is ubuntu-restricted-extras will install which installs the codecs you need
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> kroson_: thanks
[22:28] <myhero_> i am downloading Ubuntu 12.10, but the browser download size is 763MB and torrent size is 800.1MB so both are different...........which one is right ???
[22:29] <zykotick9> pogno: i was SUPER disappointed to learn that "gnome-classic" is this version only, it' won't continue :(..  reason #3 for me dropping gnome altogether ;)  i loved gnome2 best DE ever ;)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> neo_: software centre allows you to enable repos, or you can simply uncomment the partner repo lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:29] <asif> how can i make friends...???
[22:29] <Fudge> gnome-mate is a gnome2 fork
[22:29] <neo_> @ActionParsnip: i preffer sources.list :)
[22:29] <asif> neo what about you ??
[22:29] <Fudge> asif are you using Ubuntu or have a support question for Ubuntu?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: could use xfce, its coded using gtk
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> neo_: either, its the same difference
[22:30] <asif> ya i am using ubuntu
[22:30] <Fudge> make friends by learning everything about it and helping others :p
[22:30] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i use xfce for both my, and my mom's, HTPCs ;).  but for desktop - it's not gnome2 ;)
[22:31] <neo_> @asif: what about what, sorry?
[22:31] <asif> ok
[22:31] <jpg> I just looked at the ubuntu icons and spoke out loud the words "I love Ubuntu"
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: similar in look and feel
[22:32] <b3un0> today i did a dist-upgrade and the alt+tab stoped working in my gnome-classic :-(
[22:32] <Andrei_> how do i fix the "out of range" error? cant ever see grub.... i need to boot to install video card drivers
[22:32] <bekks> b3un0: dist-upgrade from which release to which release?
[22:32] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: xfce is a bad gnome2 - i agree.  they are similar ;)
[22:32] <kroson_> zykotick9: your opinion :). It can be a good one
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Andrei_: what video chip do you use?
[22:33] <Blackphyr> I updated from 12.04 to 12.10 today and now have no dash, and no bar across the top of my desktop. only the desktop icons I had before
[22:33] <Andrei_> ActionParsnip
[22:33] <Andrei_> i use and GTX560
 i did it in precise. so the packages were updated
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: do you us eproprietary video drivers?
[22:33] <Blackphyr> anyone have an idea how to get my dash back?
[22:33] <zykotick9> kroson_: i agree.  it's only "my" opinion.  YMMV ;)
 after it the alt+tab stoped working
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Andrei_: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:33] <NaZZaX> So Wols and co I have an answer to my data corruption issue and apt-get!
[22:33] <rexwin_> how to add static ip address for eth0(ubuntu)?
[22:33] <bekks> b3un0: Did you logout and log back in afterwards? And my name is be_k_ks
[22:33] <Andrei_> how?
[22:33] <Andrei_> ActionParsnip: how?
[22:34] <bekks> rexwin_: We dont support JEOS in here.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Andrei_
 sorry by the wrong typing. :-)
[22:34] <Blackphyr> Blackphyr> I did before. but I'm not sure how I can re-install it since I can't get to the settings / drivers
 yes, i did a logout
[22:34] <rexwin_> ok bekks, i will get back to you in 30 min
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: do you us eproprietary video drivers?
 so i installed the cinnamon. i liked it :-)
[22:35] <Blackphyr> before I was able to install my graphics driver by going to 'additional drivers' in settings
[22:36] <kroson_> Blackphyr: now that feature is in the Software Sources application, in a tab
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: what video chip do you use?
[22:36] <Blackphyr> it's an AMD graphics card on a laptop
[22:36] <Blackphyr> kroson> the problem is I have no dash. only my desktop icons. I had to use terminal to get to irc
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: Have you tried removing the driver, then rebooting then reinstall them
[22:37] <kroson_> Blackphyr: which one?
[22:37] <hiredman> I just installed ubuntu on a netbook with an atheros wifi chip, and durring the install process wifi worked fine, but now all the options to enable wifi are grayed out in the ui
[22:37] <Queops> Okay, so is anyone having problems after installing nvidia proprietary drivers, namely bad resolution and unity not loading?
[22:37] <Queops> @ Ubuntu 12.10 x86_64
[22:37] <hiredman> any ideas why wifi would work fine with the install process, but not afterwards?
[22:37] <Blackphyr> I don't know the exact one. I didn't need to know before. When I installed Ubuntu 12.04, everything worked fine, and then I used additional drivers to update for 3d support.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> hiredman: do you dual boot?
[22:38] <hiredman> no
[22:38] <kroson_> Blackphyr: but we need to know your card. On a terminal write 'lspci |grep AMD' the paste the output here
[22:39] <Blackphyr> so now it seems I need my graphics driver to be able to change my settings and I need to be able to see my settings to install my graphics driver
[22:39] <kroson_> Queops: there were some similar problems, the obvious solution is to install an alternative desktop environment.
[22:40] <Queops> kroson_, defeats my purpose of trying 12.10 haha
[22:40] <myhero_> i am downloading Ubuntu 12.10, but the browser download size is 763MB and torrent size is 800.1MB so both are different...........which one is right ???
[22:40] <kroson_> Queops: but try this first: xrandr --addmode S-video ... (replace the ... with the resolution you want)
[22:40] <kroson_> Blackphyr: you don't, do as i said :)
[22:40] <Queops> kroson_, unity doesn't load, even if i change the resolution dont think that will help
[22:40] <Queops> using nouveau for now...
[22:40] <Queops> tried current-updates and even experimental.
[22:41] <Queops> had to fall to console mode to remove them
[22:41] <kroson_> Queops: you have unity with nouveau?
[22:41] <myhero_> i am downloading Ubuntu 12.10, but the browser download size is 763MB and torrent size is 800.1MB so both are different...........which one is right ???
[22:41] <Queops> kroson_, nouveau comes as default
[22:41] <Queops> the drivers work on 12.04, all of them, just not 12.10
[22:41] <kroson_> Queops: i know, does unity work with that driver?
[22:41] <Queops> yes it does.
[22:43] <Queops> woot, might have a solution here kroson_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[22:43] <kroson_> Queops: not the first person with that issue here. Unfortunately don't know how to fix it.
[22:43] <Queops> kroson_, yeh I suspected it, no worries
[22:43] <Queops> thanks anyhow
[22:43] <kroson_> Queops: linux-headers is the fix :)
[22:44] <Queops> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1068341 and im glad its already reported
[22:44] <Blackphyr> kroson> sorry. missed what you had said to do. I scrolled up and found it. sec. I have to install lgrep
[22:44] <rvgate> Are the nvidia optimus graphics cards found within some laptops now fully supported with 12.10?
[22:44] <kroson_> its not lgrep, it is |grep
[22:45] <kroson_> Queops: great, that will help a lot of people
[22:45] <Blackphyr> Kroson_ yup. I just got it. but there's a lot of output
[22:45] <Queops> nvidia pretty much has my respect linux wise
[22:46] <Queops> I love how greatly my card is supported
[22:46] <kroson_> lspci |grep AMD , copy and paste this
[22:46] <belgianguy> how does one uninstall Web Apps?
[22:46] <kroson_> there can't be that much output
[22:46] <Queops> kroson_, it's his card?
[22:46] <Queops> video*
[22:46] <Blackphyr> kroson here's the relevant one I think: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS880 Host Bridge
[22:46] <Blackphyr> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx)
[22:46] <Blackphyr> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
[22:46] <Blackphyr> 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)
[22:46] <Blackphyr> 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
[22:46] <Blackphyr> 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
[22:46] <Blackphyr> 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
[22:46] <FloodBot1> Blackphyr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <Fyksen> Does anybody know how to install ubuntu one indicator? :)
[22:47] <Blackphyr> darnit. pasted too much
[22:47] <Queops> well now you know haha
[22:47] <kroson_> Blackphyr: lspci |grep ATI
[22:47] <Blackphyr> I thought I was pasting ONE line. grr
[22:48] <ozette> Hi, I'm here on ubuntu 12.04 w/ gnome 3.4.2. I'm trying to check fluid and responsive designs on websites, but I can't. Whenever I drag my window it just jumps from dragging-point to dropping-point. the content of the page is updated only after the "drop", how can I change this?
[22:48] <stobix> yo. How do I add an entry to the grub menu? In my previous distros I just added an entry to menu.lst, but Ubuntu seems to have some automagic features to take into account...
[22:48] <Queops> if it's the video card try | grep vga instead, i think it always shows vga
[22:48] <Blackphyr> there kroson_ did you get that?
[22:48] <kroson_> do as Queops said :)
[22:48] <Jimster480-Lapto> k bak
[22:49] <Queops> stobix, Ubuntu uses Grub 2 now, with all the gimmicks it brings, i used grub-customizer program to do my management on 12.04
[22:49] <Blackphyr> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[22:49] <Queops> it is a non-official program, theres a PPA for it though
[22:49] <Queops> there we go, Blackphyr and kroson_  :P
[22:49] <kroson_> Blackphyr: i can't remember what your issue was?
[22:50] <Queops> I see that you are using a laptop, does it have 2 video cards Blackphyr ?
[22:50] <Blackphyr> kroson_ I have no dash. nothing but desktop icons
[22:50] <Blackphyr> no only one video card
[22:50] <Queops> okay, just checking
[22:51] <Blackphyr> Ubuntu was wroking great. I upgraded to 12.10 and all I can access is my desktop icons and terminal
[22:52] <kroson_> Blackphyr: AMD dropped driver support for your card
[22:52] <Blackphyr> no dash. no bar at the top with buttons
[22:52] <kroson_> so you must be using opensource driver now, and it seems to be having some trouble xD
[22:52] <Queops> Blackphyr, if you were happy with 12.04, i recommend you keep using it for that laptop
[22:52] <Queops> if the drivers were dropped
[22:52] <Blackphyr> so I should go back to 12.04 then?
[22:52] <Queops> most likely :(
[22:52] <Queops> i feel for you
[22:53]  * Blackphyr sighs
[22:53] <Queops> my laptop is not good with ubuntu or any linux for that matter aswell
[22:53] <Queops> its hybrid amd/intel
[22:53] <Queops> and lets say it sucks
[22:53] <Queops> bad.
[22:53] <FloodBot1> Queops: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:53] <Blackphyr> and here I was happy about getting a new version
[22:54] <belgianguy> anyone know how one uninstalls Web Apps?
[22:55] <alexfpms> hi guys, i've just installed fresh Quantal but i have hard time to get nvidia work. Is it known issue ?
[22:55] <Queops> Blackphyr, is that laptop from 2009?
[22:55] <kroson_> Blackphyr: you could try amd legacy, but i don't know if it works, can't guarantee that :S
[22:55] <belgianguy> as they aren't listed in the Installed Software at the Ubuntu Software Centre
[22:56] <Queops> alexfpms, install linux-headers packages
[22:56] <kroson_> alexfpms: if it is the common issue, where you can't get to unity, you need to install the linux-headers package manually
[22:56] <Queops> alexfpms, I just had that issue.
[22:57] <Queops> and kroson_ it works, crisp and nice ;)
[22:57] <Blackphyr> kroson_ how would I try that?
[22:57] <Queops> so it's def. a fix.
[22:57] <virusuy> howdy y'all !
[22:57] <Blackphyr> I might as well try the legacy before I try going back to 12.04. I have nothing to lose at this point
[22:57] <alexfpms> Queops, yeah exactly, when i install nvidia-current Unity stops working
[22:57] <graingert> Blackphyr: legacy?
[22:58] <Queops> alexfpms, are you stuck at the screen?
[22:58] <Queops> I can help you out if you want
[22:58] <alexfpms> just the desktop with some icons
[22:58] <Queops> allright so
[22:58] <Queops> just tell me the model really quick
[22:59] <Wintre> So I just installed ubuntu 12 on a new machine
[22:59] <kroson_> graingert: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx this
[22:59] <akSeya> hello :(
[22:59] <Wintre> And I copied my id_dsa over
[22:59] <akSeya> folks.. any easy way to downgrade ubuntu?
[22:59] <Wintre> And logged out, and back in... and it was deleted
[22:59] <Wintre> Anybody know what's doing that?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: if you make a fresh user, is it ok there?
[23:00] <akSeya> i have just made dist-upgrade to quanta, but I cannot install yakuake, and there is no ALT+CLICK to move windows ... these two are enough for me to want a rollback
[23:00] <Queops> alexfpms, hit CTRL+ALT+F1
[23:00] <Blackphyr> ActionParsnip> how can I make a fresh user from terminal?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: open a konsole and run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install yakuake     doe sit install ok?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: sudo adduser nameofuser
[23:01] <alexfpms> Queops, and then what you advise me to install current or updates ?
[23:01] <Queops> alexfpms, depends on your cardmodel
[23:01] <alexfpms> Queops, or experimental ?
[23:01] <vault> I'm trying to make 12.10 bootable from USB, but 12.10 Desktop doesn't appear in the options of the Universal USB installer, just 12.10 daily build.
[23:01] <Queops> I usually used current-updates
[23:01] <alexfpms> Queops, gtx 680
[23:01] <Queops> but now im tryign experimental, seems fine
[23:01] <akSeya> ActionParsnip, I'm on ubuntu, it says it depends on kdebase-runtime that will not be installed, depends on konsole, will not be installed
[23:01] <Queops> alexfpms, anyway we have things to fix before that
[23:01] <Queops> are you into console mode already?
[23:01] <alexfpms> Queops, thank you very much
[23:02] <alexfpms> yeah
[23:02] <Queops> so now login as your user
[23:02] <Queops> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-whateverpackage you installed, just hit tab for automcomplete
[23:02] <alexfpms> Queops, next ?
[23:02] <Queops> maybe a sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:03] <Queops> now install like so sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[23:03] <Flynsarmy> so is it safe to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 or are there issues?
[23:03] <Queops> i believe that is the name
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: are you using Gnome desktop?
[23:03] <alexfpms> Queops, done
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: there may be issues
[23:03] <Blackphyr> okay I created another user. now how do I switch to it? lol
[23:04] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: is there a known issues page?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Blackphyr: log off, log in to the new user?
[23:04] <akSeya> ActionParsnip, unity, yes.... and yes, I want yakuake :P
[23:04] <alexfpms> Queops, so i can try now nvidia-current-updates ?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: so why are you installing a KDE app, why not install Guake which is Gnome based?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: makes no sense
[23:04] <Queops> alexfpms, for good measure also install linux-headers-3.5blablabla-generic
[23:04] <kroson_> Blackphyr: log out, log in
[23:04] <Queops> it's the current kernel version
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: it varies from install to install. There is no hard and fast list
[23:04] <Queops> better safe than sorry
[23:05] <Blackphyr> parsnip> I've always had it set to open my main user account automatically
[23:05] <akSeya> ActionParsnip, last time I tried guake, it doesn't fit my needs
[23:05] <alexfpms> Queops, i install linux-headers-generic and i saw it also installed linux-headers-3.5
[23:05] <Queops> alexfpms, good news then. now reboot
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: then I suggest you report a bug with the deps. Seems weird to install a whole tonne of KDE deps just for a drop down terminal. What is so special about Yakuake?
[23:05] <alexfpms> Queops, ok
[23:05] <Queops> proprietary drivers need a reboot.
[23:05] <akSeya> it does not split terminal (like yakuake with CTRL+T CTRL+L)
[23:06] <Queops> when you come in install experimental for example (Works fine for me on my GT320 lol)
[23:06] <Queops> the usualy way, reboot again and ti should work, as it worked for me :)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: I see, does tilda do that?
[23:06] <akSeya> tilda?
[23:06] <Queops> the usual way* alexfpms_
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: yes, tilda
[23:06] <akSeya> going to find it out :)
[23:07] <Queops> alexfpms_, seems you dced lol
[23:07] <tux9th> How do I load a kernel in Grub when there is no "kernel" command :S!
[23:07] <chovynz> my screen is very dark. how can i increase the brightness? there are no brightness controls in the brightness app. (Ubuntu 12.04 liveusb)
[23:08] <akSeya> damn.. no tilda...
[23:09] <Blackphyr> no it didn't give me a choice of who to log in as. It just logged me in to my regular account. how can I install that legacy-amd you guys were mentioning?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !info tilda
[23:09] <Queops> alexfpms, when you come in install experimental for example (Works fine for me on my GT320 lol) the usual way, reboot again and it should work, as it worked for me :)
[23:09] <kroson_> Blackphyr: i don't know if you should... do you know how to revert to default in case you have any problem?
[23:10] <alexfpms> Queops, wow guy you're my Savior, can't live without prop. nvidia ;-)
[23:10] <Blackphyr> kroson> well since my only other alternative is a clean reinstall with 12.04, what do I have to lose?
[23:10] <Queops> alexfpms, same, nVidia ftw! ;)
[23:10] <kroson_> there a couple things you could try: fglrx-legacy, new kernel, xorg edgers, and a new desktop environment would probably work
[23:11] <Blackphyr> okay. well I'm open to suggestions
[23:11] <alexfpms> Queops, i thought i have to wait weeks before they fix it
[23:11] <Blackphyr> I just want to try something
[23:11] <akSeya> ActionParsnip, but more important, moving windows with ALT+CLICK .. any idea?
[23:11] <Queops> alexfpms, nVidia users on linux/ubuntu are too big of a base to go weeks unnoticed
[23:11] <tux9th> Hi I have a quite troublesome problem. I rebooted after updating to 12.10 (from 12.04) and now my grub is empty. Also in the grub commandline the command "kernel" doesn't exist
[23:11] <Queops> theres already a bug report on the problem
[23:12] <tux9th> Is there something new I don't know about? How am I supposed to load a kernel?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: not sure, does it happen as a fresh user?
[23:12] <Queops> and Steam is coming so ;)
[23:12] <alexfpms> Queops, good news
[23:12] <akSeya> hum.. need to try out
[23:12] <alexfpms> Queops, thank you anyway for help
[23:12] <Queops> alexfpms, no worries :)
[23:12] <Queops> enjoy
[23:13] <akSeya> yes, does not work with a new user either
[23:13] <KiLuMnaTi> do people use Cario dock here
[23:13] <alexfpms> Queops, ;-) already started
[23:13] <Blackphyr> kroson> and without being able to access any of the Ubuntu features except terminal, I really don't know what to try or how to do it.
[23:13] <jimi_> Is there a special driver for the intel hd3000  graphics adapter? or is it natively supported? i get terrible FPS jerkiness
[23:14] <kroson_> Blackphyr: lets try the ubuntu fglrx driver first, the one that is on the repositories
[23:14] <alexfpms> Queops, i dont understand why they removed "Additional drivers" by default ?
[23:14] <tgm4883> alexfpms, they didn't, it got moved
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: isn't there a mesa driver for it?
[23:14] <Queops> kroson_, maybe he should remove all traces of previous drivers, or did he already?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: are there any bugs reported?
[23:14] <iceroot> alexfpms: Queops its not removed, its placed in the software center now
[23:15] <kroson_> Queops: we will rewrite xorg.conf after
[23:15] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, not seeing any
[23:15] <alexfpms> tgm4883, moved where ? it even doesn't installed on my system
[23:15] <Queops> iceroot, I'm glad im not removed!
[23:15] <iceroot> Queops: :)
[23:15] <tgm4883> alexfpms, it's part of the software sources now. Don't ask me why
[23:15] <Guest43077> can't get my canon printer ip6000d to work properly since udating fron 10.04 to 12.04
[23:15] <alexfpms> tgm4883, ok
[23:15] <tgm4883> alexfpms, if you go into software sources, it has it's own tab
[23:15] <Queops> Yeh the drivers are on a weird place now
[23:15] <kroson_> Blackphyr: are you in a terminal?
[23:15] <Blackphyr> I'm in a couple terminals
[23:16] <Kuwanger> Is it possible to install Ubuntu amd64 from an i386 [virtual] machine?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: did you try the mesa driver?
[23:16] <Guest43077> everything else works fine
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Kuwanger: I'd ask in #vbox
[23:16] <kroson_> Blackphyr: lets backup xorg.conf
[23:16] <stobix> Queops: hm. I guess I'll use grub-customizer as well, as soon as I've managed to boot... ;)
[23:16] <Guest6572> suck my d*ck m*ther f*cker
[23:16] <kroson_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BAK
[23:16] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, i am just using whatever the kernel detected....
[23:16] <Queops> stobix, it worked with 12.04, make sure 12.10 is supported before modifying stuff
[23:17] <rigid> hi
[23:17] <Queops> stobix, and it's the best hands-down I ever saw to manage grub2
[23:17] <Kuwanger> ActionParsnip: I'll ask there too, but it'd seem to be an Ubuntu amd64 install cd question.
[23:18] <rigid> i experience strange behaviour with openGL games (like torus trooper)... it seems like if the left-arrow key is stuck and I can't find anything on the web about it
[23:18] <rigid> strangely it's with all games that use opengl
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> rigid: what video chip?
[23:18] <stobix> Queops: ah, will do.
[23:18] <rigid> tumiki fighters is another game that suffers from this... does anyone know how I could try to work around it?
[23:19] <rigid> ActionParsnip: nvidia, do you need to know exactly?
[23:19] <rigid> ActionParsnip: with nouveau drivers iirc
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> rigid: did you install the nvidia proprietary video driver?
[23:19] <rigid> ActionParsnip: no, could that fix it?
[23:19] <stobix> Queops: first, I have to solve that I apparently misspelled the / entry in /etc/fstab, and now has a / that is mounted readonly so I can't change /etc/fstab. (Wehee)
[23:20] <rigid> ActionParsnip: could the video driver really affect the keyboard input?
[23:20] <akSeya> ALT+CLICK changed to WINKEY+CLICK
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> rigid: its all part of the x server, so could do
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> akSeya: ahhh, nice share :)
[23:21] <Blackphyr> kroson> I had to reboot. totally locked up. can you give me that command one more time?
[23:21] <rigid> ActionParsnip: thanks, at least i got a starting point for debugging now :)
[23:22] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, it looks like the mesa packages are installed... how can i tell if i am using them
[23:22] <stobix> ...is there any way to remount / rw instead of ro from a root terminal?
[23:23] <akSeya> ActionParsnip, the thing I like in yakuake most is that it works almost like tmux, but with mouse support for selecting active terminal
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: sudo lshw -C display    will show the driver in use, if you use a hybrid video chip ati or nvidia + intel then you will get issues.
[23:24] <daviddoria> even after adding this file: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html - I still don't see a hibernate option in the Leave menu
[23:24] <akSeya> well.. got to go
[23:24] <akSeya> see ya tomorrow
[23:25] <Guest49459> I'm upgrading to 12.10.  Is it a good thing or not?
[23:25] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, doesnt look like it is using anything except generic? http://pastebin.com/nGWptdRR
[23:26] <tux9th> Guest49459: killed my grub
[23:26] <azalime> Hi guys, I need to add a new language (Tamazight) to Ubuntu but missing iso2 code. How do I get started? Microsoft just released their feature and it's making a buzz
[23:26] <tux9th> i'm stuck with nothing
[23:27] <Guest49459> tux9th: what does that mean, kill your grub?  You mean the bootloader was wasted?
[23:27] <tux9th> Bootloader is wasted. I have no idea how to boot my syste
[23:28] <AaronMT> I upgraded an old box from 9.04 to 12.10 and now everything is busted
[23:28] <tux9th> left me with a grub that doesn't know the kernel version
[23:28] <tux9th> *option
[23:28] <Guest49459> tux9th: How are you on the chat if you can't boot?
[23:28] <tux9th> I cannot load the kernel in the prompt because there is no KERNEL
[23:28] <tux9th> I have more than one computer
[23:28] <AaronMT> What a disaster
[23:28] <AaronMT> Was this release tested?
[23:29] <Guest49459> tux9th: This release has what kernel?  3.5?
[23:29] <dr_willis> demand a refund! ;)
[23:29] <Myrtti> AaronMT: how did you upgrade it then?
[23:29] <tux9th> yeah
[23:29] <tux9th> but I don't care about the kernel I cannot boot it ...
[23:29] <rigid> re
[23:29] <tux9th> does anyone know a decent grub on a stick?
[23:29] <tux9th> *grub iso
[23:29] <dr_willis> tux9th:  about any live linux cd cdn be used to reinstall grub.
[23:30] <Guest49459> tux9th: Hope I can get through this upgrade without a problem
[23:30] <dr_willis> tux9th:  theres a boot-repair live cd that i reccomend
[23:30] <rigid> fyi, switching to nvidia drivers didn't solve the "hanging-left-arrow-key" problem :(
[23:30] <tux9th> which one?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: I suggest uou report a bug
[23:31] <Guest49459> Wish me luck in succeeding the upgrade
[23:31] <tux9th> dr_willis: which livecd would you recommend?
[23:31] <steveeJ> hi, has anynone managed to compile dropbear for arm using arm-linux-gnueabi-? i have tried everything but the static dropbear binary won't find the any users
[23:31] <almoxarife> tux9th: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ <-- works for me
[23:31] <dr_willis> tux9th:  theres a boot-repair live cd that i reccomend
[23:31] <dr_willis> tux9th:  its mentioned on the fixgrub wiki pages
[23:31] <coder2000> I just upgraded to 12.10 and it killed my grub install. it cannot even find my kernel to boot manually.
[23:32] <tux9th> k
[23:32] <L3top> tux9th: I also wrote a script that makes fixing grub very easy.
[23:32] <StZ> I just updated from 12.04 to 12.10, and unity and/or compiz refuses to start, leaving me with my desktop image + icons.
[23:32] <tux9th> I think if I could just get a working grub on a live cd I could boot my system and fix it
[23:33] <dr_willis> boot any linux, chroot into the system. fix grub
[23:33] <L3top> tux9th: dr_willis's suggestion is a tried and true method.
[23:33] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:33] <dr_willis> https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/
[23:33] <alexfpms> StZ, like Queops said me just install linux-headers-generic
[23:34] <kroson_> tux9th: http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.in/2011/06/recover-grub-live-ubuntu-cd.html just a suggestion
[23:34] <tux9th> I'm already downloading that file
[23:34] <alexfpms> Stz, it worked fine for me
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: you can use the liveCD to make the first HDD boot :)
[23:34] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, What is the bug? (sorry)
[23:34] <gealany> I wonder how everyone is doing.
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: graphics are slow
[23:35] <Myrtti> AaronMT: so how did you upgrade then?
[23:35] <StZ> alexfpms, reinstall?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> gealany: that is offtopic here, this is support only
[23:35] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, it didnt look like it was using the right driver though? it looked like generic?
[23:35] <alexfpms> Stz sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[23:35] <Queops> StZ if you are on nvidia, remove the nvidia-* package, install linux-headers-generic, reboot, install the proprietary again, reboot, done.
[23:36] <Queops> StZ CTRL+ALT+F1 to go into console mode.
[23:36] <designbybeck> I was running Beta 2..... Idid the dist upgrade, I think!? Now do I know if it did do a full upgrade and that I do in fact have the latest!
[23:37] <dr_willis> designbybeck:  see what lsb_release -a sayd
[23:37] <kroson_> Could anyone tell me what are the options i need to select in recovery mode to get to a terminal with apt-get ?
[23:38] <dr_willis> kroson_:  you could use text, or single user mode also if thats all you need is to get to a console/terminal.
[23:38] <coder2000> I've done most of the things I know to fix grub. Trying boot-repair.
[23:38] <alexfpms> kroson_, CTRL+ALT+F1 to go into console mode
[23:38] <kroson_> dr_willis: how can i force to get to one when using default boot option?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: driver=i915   its using the driver
[23:38] <StZ> After upgrading to 12.10, unity and/or compiz refuses to load. I can see my desktop, and desktop icons, but no launcher, no top menu.
[23:38] <kroson_> dr_willis: and supposing i can't get to X
[23:38] <dr_willis> kroson_: append the 'text' optioon to the boot line
[23:38] <dr_willis> !text
[23:38] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, oh, ok. Is that the right one for a HD3000 ?
[23:39] <Queops> StZ, did you ignore what we told you?
[23:39] <kroson_> dr_willis: thank you
[23:39] <StZ> No Queops. I reinstalled the headers, no solution
[23:39] <designbybeck> dr_willis: doesn't say anything about beta
[23:39] <designbybeck> so is that good
[23:39] <Queops> what is your card model?
[23:39] <shwaiil> hi
[23:39] <coder2000> It complains about not finding physical volume (null)
[23:39] <Queops> You probably didn't do it the right way StZ
[23:39] <alexfpms> kroson_, CTRL+ALT+F1 to go into console mode
[23:39] <alexfpms> kroson_, no X in console mode
[23:40] <shwaiil> Q: I'm trying to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 but trough update manager the new version is not being displayed. I've changed UK to main server, still nothing. Tks for looking!
[23:40] <Queops> StZ you must remove the proprietary drivers, reboot and install them again, and reboot to use them.
[23:40] <kroson_> dr_willis: how do i add something to the end of a boot line in grub2? i always forget about that
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: its an intel one, so yes
[23:42] <StZ> Queops, Do you know a how-to posted somewhere? Or at least see what proprietary drivers i'm using?
[23:42] <Lazure> ok how do i stop this from happening in ubuntu 12.10? i have told it NOT to turn off the display after 15 minutes etc etc, but it STILL blanks my screen. I need my screen to stay on constantly. how to prevent this ?
[23:42] <Queops> StZ this http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10 probably.
[23:42] <Kuwanger> Is there something besides LVM to give more flexibility when it comes to storage utilization?  As it stands, it's a rather tedious process to umount (itself a tedious point on an active system), resize down with a fs-specific tool, shrink an lvm volume, then resize up to fill the available space.
[23:42] <L3top> StZ: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3
[23:42] <alexfpms> StZ, i found that link in history http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[23:43] <kenn3th> I'm trying to rescue a messed up upgrade using apt-get install -f. It's asking for which encoding to use on the console...! Can anybody help?
[23:43] <almoxarife> kroson_: make the changes to file /etc/default/grub , update-grub <-- in terminal to make change
[23:43] <StZ> Willl try, back in a few
[23:43] <kroson_> almoxarife: just want to run once the line
[23:43] <trism> shwaiil: in software-properties-gtk Switch to the Updates tab and set Notify me of a new Ubuntu version to For any new version, then try again
[23:43] <alexfpms> kroson_, end of a boot line in grub2?
[23:43] <almoxarife> so many crashed updates, what is going on?
[23:43] <alexfpms> kroson_, from grub ?
[23:43] <tux9th> dr_willis: boot and repair doesn't know how to handle lvm
[23:44] <r33P33r> hello eveyone
[23:44] <almoxarife> kroson_: don't understand
[23:44] <kroson_> alexfpms: yes, grub2, add text to the boot line
[23:44] <kroson_> what is the key?
[23:44] <thedoor> My network desappeared after the upgrade to 12.10, anyone can help me?
[23:44] <r33P33r> anyone using plank ?
[23:44] <kroson_> almoxarife
[23:44] <alexfpms> kroson_, don't remember, try e
[23:44] <almoxarife> kroson_: make the changes to file /etc/default/grub , update-grub <-- in terminal to make change
[23:45] <brisbin_> what
[23:45] <alexfpms> kroson_, what do you whant to do ?
[23:45] <dr_willis> tux9th:  neither do i. ;)
[23:45] <kroson_> alexfpms: i don't remember either lol
[23:45] <kroson_> alexfpms: boot into text mode, i need to add text
[23:45] <tux9th> dr_willis: perfect!
[23:45] <r33P33r> is there someone who uses plank ?
[23:46] <dr_willis> !info plank
[23:46] <r33P33r> its docky writen in vala
[23:46] <alexfpms> kroson_, if you want change grub settings they are /etc/default/grub
[23:46] <asdfn> how do I install binary packages?
[23:47] <L3top> packages contain binaries. What are yout trying to install asdfn
[23:47] <almoxarife> asdfn: via gui? 'synaptic' in a gnome desktop\
[23:48] <almoxarife> asdfn: alt-f2 , type 'synaptic'
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> asdfn: usually mark them as executable and run them
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> r33P33r: I'm close to it, looks decent
[23:49] <alexfpms> kroson_, if you want change settings in console mode so: nano /etc/default/grub
[23:49] <r33P33r> ActionParsnip: close to what ?
[23:49] <AaronMT> AaronMT: !hardy
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> r33P33r: soon as quantal gets nice i'll be switching off Unity (Used it to do testing) and use openbox + plank
[23:49] <guea119> after upgrading to 12.10 my devices don't work properly how can I fix this
[23:50] <r33P33r> ActionParsnip: you should try its speedier and clean
[23:50] <r33P33r> ActionParsnip: but i am having some troubles with themes
[23:50] <guea119> networking and USB mouse don't work but touchpad does
[23:51] <almoxarife> guea119: were the header packages installed for your new kernel?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> r33P33r: its my next thing to play with, I've been testing Quantal since alpha 2 to get bugs reported etc
[23:52] <asdfn> i downloaded phantomjs1.7 in binary package since the repo version is too old, trying to understand how to install it. thanks I will try that you suggested
[23:52] <obtrusivemouse> help me out here, i had to close my computer during "installation of ubuntu 12.10", when I turned it on, only a certain portion of it was finished, what can i do to get it to fully install
[23:52] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: fresh install?  Just install again
[23:52] <almoxarife> asdfn: if the file exists as a download and you already have 'gdebi' a gui to install debs then use it
[23:53] <guea119> almoxarife the header package appears to be installed
[23:53] <obtrusivemouse> i had it update from the terminal, so i dont think it does that... i guess i have to do a fresh one.
[23:53] <JoshuaBrown> System update. yay.
[23:53] <almoxarife> guea119: there should be 2 header files, probably there
[23:53] <Draton> hey guys - quick 12.10 question.  Everything seems to be running fine but I keep getting 3 lines of 'file not found' before grub when booting
[23:54] <Draton> I assume they are grub panics, any idea how i can diagnose?
[23:54] <almoxarife> Draton: did you have a graphic grub prior?
[23:54] <Draton> nope
[23:54] <Draton> stock
[23:54] <StZ> I've ran the instructions in that post, Queops. However, there is no change at all.
[23:54] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: was the update still downloading or had it begun installing?
[23:54] <StZ> Do you have any other ideas what could be causing this?
[23:55] <guea119> in the package manager I see linux-headers 3.5.0-03500 and the same name with generic at the end
[23:55] <jrib> !who | obtrusivemouse
[23:55] <almoxarife> Draton: can't remember which log is strickly for boot sequence, but it is there in var/log/.....
[23:55] <Draton> alright, i'll start there, thanks almoxarife
[23:55] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[23:55] <L3top> StZ: can I please see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[23:55] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, it was already downloaded, it was installing in fact i am running a fairly ok run ubuntu but i get popups everywhere saying something is broken
[23:55] <thedoor> My network interface is missing after 12.10 update, any one can help me?
[23:56] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: did you use do-release-upgrade or update-manager to upgrade?
[23:56] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i think i tried do-release-upgrade but it said no new version found
[23:56] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: what do you mean?  You said the update started.
[23:57] <ElixirVitae> Say, I want to make a live CD with my current programs and configurations, like a portable version of what I have, is that possible?
[23:57] <wachpwnski> Is there any reason my bash script can be executed in the console, but wont run on @reboot cron?
[23:57] <jrib> wachpwnski: there probably is a reason yes.  You'll have to provide more details for a better answer :)
[23:57] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, yeah but when i entered do-release upgrade it tells me there is nothing to be found, i just tried update manager and get a software updater so there might be some good hope after all?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ElixirVitae: you'll need to use a tool on the ubuntu liveCD and apply your settings there
[23:58] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: do your sources.list point to quantal at the moment?
[23:58] <ais523> so I'm currently upgrading 12.04 to 12.10, and unity crashed, and won't start again; I started metacity instead from the virtual terminal, so I can at least just-about use the computer (although without any sort of panel), but the distribution upgrade window has gone blank for some reason, anyone know how to figure out / view its progress?
[23:58] <wachpwnski> @reboot ~/.cron_script
[23:58] <jrib> wachpwnski: don't use ~
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> wachpwnski: use the absolute path, it reduces problems
[23:59] <wachpwnski> can't I use %h too or no?
[23:59] <StZ> L3top, output -> PM
[23:59] <jrib> wachpwnski: $HOME should be ok
[23:59] <ais523> oh, now the distro update window just closed spontaneously
[23:59] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, just checked it and yes it does, but for some reason it also has repositories from 11.04 which was what i originally installed.