| skaet | hiya, any chance we can get some extra testing love on Ubuntu Studio? We need all the manitory and run once tests done, before we can ship the images tomorrow. | 00:08 |
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| skaet | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds | 00:08 |
| Len-nb | skaet, All the 32bit stuff is done. Ailo, holstein are any of you able to do 64 bit? | 00:34 |
| * Len-nb would be happy to do 64bit if he had such a machine... | 00:35 | |
| skaet | Thanks Len-nb. | 00:44 |
| holstein | away | 03:36 |
| holstein | len-dt: ping | 03:36 |
| Len-nb | holstein, | 03:36 |
| holstein | skaet: im getting a late start on the 64's | 04:17 |
| holstein | skaet: we have everything but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26107/testcases | 05:30 |
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| XRS1 | This has got to be the most exciting distro I've seen hands down. Thanks everybody! | 07:51 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: Glad you like it. I do think there's a major problem with qjackctl not stopping jackdbus properly, but that is something that we've inherited from Debian | 07:52 |
| XRS1 | noted | 07:54 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: What makes you like Ubuntu Studio, if you don't mind spilling a couple of words on that? | 07:54 |
| XRS1 | I have many artist friends who would be very interested. not to mention just about every college kid in america | 07:55 |
| XRS1 | i've been using adobe myself and I am trying to break away | 07:55 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: Ah, so you're into publishing applications? | 07:56 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: Scribus? | 07:57 |
| XRS1 | well im actually in the tech industry but i end up having to do a lot of creative work and wearing of other hats. not to mention i like to start grand projects but end up bogged down bymyself and cant get any help as adobe is too expensive for others to be buying | 07:57 |
| ailo-w | I meant to say Calibre.. heh | 07:57 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: You can find Calibre for Windows too | 07:58 |
| XRS1 | i have a startup i am making mostly just as a demonstration of concept to some pro-am and D1 drifters, auto tracking camera systems, in car embedded media centers/engine data logging & AEM performance tuner intergation. i think i might be able to slip this in as a product somewhere :P | 08:00 |
| XRS1 | they just love to edit their own pictures and videos and post 'em on the web | 08:00 |
| ailo-w | A live DVD does include many of the apps you'd use for that. Unfortunately, for audio, there are missing codecs and such, if you want to work from a live image | 08:01 |
| XRS1 | solid state storage | 08:02 |
| XRS1 | looking into AEM on linux right now. i want to ditch the whole windows 8 touchscreen concept | 08:05 |
| ailo-w | I have seen very little of Win8, but the last bit I saw was that you couldn't turn off the touch screen thing (at least using a gui). I would suspect you can disable it - would be pretty lame otherwise | 08:06 |
| ailo-w | XFCE is in deed very traditional | 08:06 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: Did you try UbuntuStudio Quantal 12.10? Final version is being released today. It includes publishing applications in the DVD, in contrary to the 12.04 release | 08:08 |
| XRS1 | well the idea was win8 would be a good touchscreen OS, but after trying it out, its not really working out as well as I had hoped, and i dont want to support microsoft's windows 8 | 08:08 |
| XRS1 | nope. just found 12.04.1 a little bit ago by accident | 08:08 |
| XRS1 | was thinking LTS would be best but i dont see these things lasting long enough to need it. can just keep loading whatever is current onto new builds | 08:10 |
| ailo-w | XRS1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ | 08:10 |
| ailo-w | Or you can wait until the final release is out. Should be by tomorrow | 08:11 |
| ailo-w | The LTS is probably best, if you're going to keep the same software on a server for long periods | 08:11 |
| XRS1 | torrent link yet? | 08:11 |
| ailo-w | Doesn't seem so | 08:12 |
| ailo-w | The LTS probably has some advantages, what Unity is concerned. Perhaps less buggy. Don't really know. Otherwise, I don't think the LTS stands out | 08:12 |
| ailo-w | Not for multimedia apps anyway | 08:13 |
| Unit193 | 12.10 for Xfce based ones (xubuntu, ubuntustudio) the messaging indicator won't be a-working. | 08:14 |
| XRS1 | the envelope icon in the try? | 08:14 |
| XRS1 | tray* | 08:15 |
| Unit193 | Some other things may be a bit "off" | 08:15 |
| XRS1 | well you are going in the right direction, thats good enough for now | 08:16 |
| XRS1 | Tattoo artist friend of mine already wants to try it out. | 10:05 |
| skaet | smartboyhw - hiya, we seem to be missing an Upgrade test for Ubuntu Studio amd64 - would it be possible for that to be run in next couple of hours? | 10:29 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, look at #ubuntu-release:D | 10:29 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, options..what are they? | 10:31 |
| skaet | smartboyhw, be best if we can get the manditory tests all done. | 10:31 |
| skaet | am wondering if there are other people outside ubuntu studio team with the hardware handy, who can help? | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, best but real difficult | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, asked them on #ubuntu-testing already | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, I am zsyncing the iso for good.....Hopefully I am able to test it before deadline....When is the deadline BTW? | 10:33 |
| skaet | smartboyhw, at some point today ;) you've got a couple of hours | 10:34 |
| skaet | basically deadline is when all the infrastructure is up and ready. | 10:35 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, good...Download ETA 19:23 minutes, but then I am also building 3.7-rc1 kernel so.........my CPU will explode after that:D | 10:35 |
| skaet | :) thanks smartboyhw let me know how it goes. | 10:37 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, OK:D | 10:37 |
| * smartboyhw is revising Chinese, doing homework and doing testing with his parents on cruise...eh:( | 10:37 | |
| phillw | skaet: how long has -studio got for the test? | 10:41 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, er as skaet said: Couple of hours...should be enough hopefully | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | Thanks for caring about us phillw :D | 10:43 |
| phillw | is someone doing it? | 10:43 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: ? | 10:44 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, I am now...Have to | 10:46 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, infinity volunteered to do one for us:D | 10:47 |
| phillw | I haven't got enough data allowance on my 3G device to pull in the 12.04 and then the data for 12.10 :( | 10:47 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, don't worry:D | 10:48 |
| skaet | smartboyhw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.10release_notes <-- is that where the Ubuntu Studio project's release notes will be this time around? | 11:19 |
| skaet | or is there another site? | 11:19 |
| * skaet updating the announcement email | 11:19 | |
| smartboyhw | skaet, IDK let me check | 11:19 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, that page is blank | 11:20 |
| skaet | smartboyhw, yes, was wondering if there was another I should point to? or use: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio | 11:22 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, use that link | 11:23 |
| * skaet not sure if there is a project specific new announce, like some of the other flavors have. | 11:23 | |
| smartboyhw | skaet, I mean the QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio | 11:23 |
| skaet | ok. I'll use ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio unless I hear otherwise ;) | 11:23 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, ok | 11:23 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, doing the upgrading now | 11:42 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, upgrade package download 95% should finish quickly now:P | 12:25 |
| skaet | :) | 12:26 |
| Unit193 | Woah, you identified. :p | 12:26 |
| smartboyhw | Unit193, what/ | 12:26 |
| len-dt | skaet, what has to be done to declair ubuntustudio ready? Does it have to be ScottL? He would normally be online by now... | 13:14 |
| smartboyhw | len-dt, wait for scott-work that is | 13:14 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 13:14 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, am I right? | 13:15 |
| len-dt | smartboyhw, there are lots of reasons scott may not show... I was thinking there must be some kind of backup. | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | len-dt, I am the backup as QA Lead | 13:19 |
| skaet | smartboyhw, if scott-work isn't around in the next hour, as backup, please signoff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseManifest by putting the date in the column with "test sign-off", beside the ubuntu studio images. Add a comment to the commit, you're doing it on scott-work's behalf, and all should be good. | 13:22 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, OK | 13:23 |
| sticky1 | Hello | 13:26 |
| sticky1 | Xubuntu 12.04.1 here, can anyone please help me to get my softsynth working? | 13:27 |
| sticky1 | or at least how to get internal synth working (fluidsynth)? | 13:29 |
| sticky1 | my ALSA is glitching I think | 13:29 |
| ailo-w | sticky1: ALSA, or jack+alsa? | 13:42 |
| ailo-w | sticky1: Are you playing it live? What is your latency setting? Did you adminster realtime privilege for your user? If low latency, did you install linux-lowlatency? | 13:44 |
| sticky1 | sorry I was doinstairs for a minute | 13:45 |
| sticky1 | *downstairs | 13:45 |
| sticky1 | I have MuseScore and a bunch of Wine apps that I want to set up not only with fluidsynth (if possible) but also with my X-MIDI adapter (my digital piano) | 13:45 |
| sticky1 | and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do | 13:46 |
| sticky1 | ailo-w: but I thought that fluidsynth was preinstalled or something? | 13:48 |
| sticky1 | I have no idea how to set up MIDI connections | 13:48 |
| ailo-w | sticky1: Do you know about jack? | 13:49 |
| sticky1 | I believe it is an software MIDI cable amirite? | 13:49 |
| sticky1 | *a | 13:49 |
| ailo-w | sticky1: Here's a bit about the sound on Ubuntu Studio https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204 | 13:50 |
| sticky1 | it's a server appearantly | 13:50 |
| ailo-w | I'd recommend for you to install Ubuntu Studio, to get everything set up by default. | 13:50 |
| ailo-w | sticky1: It's a pro audio sound system, for both audio and midi | 13:50 |
| sticky1 | oh wait | 13:50 |
| sticky1 | I now know why it doesn't work | 13:51 |
| sticky1 | let me show you | 13:51 |
| ailo-w | sticky1: I need to go, but perhaps someone else can help you | 13:51 |
| ailo-w | Time to go home.. | 13:51 |
| sticky1 | can you stay 1 more minute | 13:51 |
| sticky1 | just one | 13:51 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 13:52 |
| sticky1 | http://imgur.com/zUOIU | 13:52 |
| sticky1 | it is Dutch, it says Couldn't open ALSA as sequencer client. The ALSA MIDI patchbay shan't be available. or something like that | 13:53 |
| sticky1 | what am I supposed to do now | 13:53 |
| smartboyhw | len-dt, the backup system is used now and I marked the release ready | 13:55 |
| len-dt | smartboyhw, Thankyou. | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | len-dt, :D | 14:07 |
| US-XRS1 | AWESOME! Loving what im seeing from this 12.10! | 14:14 |
| ailo | sticky1: Try #opensourcemusicians too. I haven't used fluidsynth fonts for a good while | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | US-XRS1, :) | 14:31 |
| sticky1 | ailo thanks for the response... | 14:31 |
| sticky1 | I'll try | 14:31 |
| sticky1 | bye | 14:31 |
| ailo | sticky1: Also, I would check docs for the program you use | 14:31 |
| sticky1 | ok | 14:31 |
| sticky1 | But everything should run fine but I get that error | 14:32 |
| ailo | Have you googled the error? | 14:32 |
| sticky1 | yeah not many useful solutions | 14:32 |
| ailo | That's what I would need to do, aside from finding out again how the sound fonts work | 14:32 |
| XRS1 | the whole "For humans" according to the studies that Microsoft Bob was based off, that wording is going to be a big subconscious turn off. should change that to People. | 17:16 |
| XRS1 | first thing i thought when my computer booted up is what are you an alien? is this skynet or something? :P | 17:34 |
| smartboyhw | XRS1, what? | 17:35 |
| XRS1 | just the whole "Made for humans." on the bootscreen | 17:36 |
| holstein | XRS1: you can file a "wishlist" bug | 17:36 |
| XRS1 | interesting | 17:37 |
| holstein | i can assure you that sentence is not on the list of things to change | 17:37 |
| holstein | not that we wont be open to criticism, or suggestions | 17:37 |
| holstein | XRS1: you can try the dev channel and/or dev mailing list, but we are far from dealing with that level of refinement | 17:37 |
| holstein | plus, thats something we have hanging around from early ubuntu slogans | 17:38 |
| XRS1 | i just thought it funny as i just finished reading a study on human interaction with machines and that was almost exactly like one of the examples they used (along with the Einstein looking "Clippy" sneezing when you close him.) | 17:39 |
| holstein | they? | 17:40 |
| holstein | you mean, us? or microsoft? | 17:40 |
| XRS1 | who ever the author of the published findings were | 17:40 |
| holstein | i think the idea is that its ubuntu for humans, as opposed to an operating system for super technical folks | 17:41 |
| holstein | like, anyone can use it.. thats the idea | 17:41 |
| holstein | its just a slogan though, i wouldnt read too much into it | 17:41 |
| XRS1 | i like it because it isnt gender specific | 17:41 |
| XRS1 | and my cat sure as heck shouldnt be using it :P | 17:42 |
| skaet | smartboyhw, and rest of ubuntu studio team, congrats on getting Ubuntu Studio 12.10 released! :) | 17:43 |
| smartboyhw | skaet, yeah:) | 17:43 |
| holstein | skaet: thanks!... we couldnt do it witout you!! | 17:44 |
| XRS1 | ? "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported." | 18:36 |
| fritz_cx | salut | 19:17 |
| fritz_cx | y a kelkun? | 19:20 |
| XRS1 | i cant mount USB mass storage devices | 20:21 |
| ailo | XRS1: How are you mounting? | 20:22 |
| XRS1 | clicking on the desktop icon | 20:22 |
| ailo | XRS1: Is this the live DVD, or an install? | 20:41 |
| XRS1 | install. i got antsy and got 12.10 from cdimage.ubuntu.com before the official release | 20:43 |
| XRS1 | well its already installed i mean | 20:44 |
| ailo | XRS1: We've done testing with that, and so far no one had any problems. I'll see if I can do some tomorrow. | 20:45 |
| ailo | Will need to do a fresh install to do that | 20:45 |
| XRS1 | should i just grab the official? | 20:46 |
| XRS1 | now that its out | 20:46 |
| XRS1 | or, im assumeing its out? O_o | 20:46 |
| Unit193 | It is, but zsync since you already have most of it. | 20:47 |
| XRS1 | yeah its out. | 20:47 |
| Unit193 | !zsync | 20:47 |
| ubottu | Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | 20:47 |
| XRS1 | oh cool | 20:47 |
| ailo | XRS1: I'm almost certain it is the exact same thing. But, you can always give it a try | 20:47 |
| Unit193 | And if it is, it'll say 100% | 20:48 |
| len-dt | XRS1, running 12.10 here no problems mounting USB stick. | 21:29 |
| XRS1 | hmm... tried 3. 1 is brand new out of the packageing. already tried rebooting | 21:29 |
| len-dt | This one has been well used :) I use it for testing ISOs. | 21:30 |
| XRS1 | "Failed to mount 16 GB Volume. Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported" | 21:31 |
| ailo | XRS1: Something about permissions. Have you googled it? | 21:46 |
| len-dt | I do recall The 16G stick I have when I got it there were some things that didn't work | 21:52 |
| holstein | !mount | 21:52 |
| ubottu | mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount | 21:52 |
| len-dt | I repartitioned/formated it and it was fine. | 21:53 |
| holstein | yeah, i would just look in gparted for it XRS1 | 21:53 |
| ailo | Executables can't be run from USB | 21:53 |
| XRS1 | ? | 21:54 |
| ailo | That's all I know, aside from file systems, which Linux can handle | 21:54 |
| XRS1 | yes they can? | 21:54 |
| holstein | XRS1: open gparted and reformat and try | 21:54 |
| XRS1 | gotta install it. didnt come with the install | 21:54 |
| ailo | XRS1: Not on Linux. You can run a script as "bash myscript", but you can't do "./myscript" | 21:55 |
| ailo | It's a safety, I believe. There was some talk about USB automaounting posing a security hole | 21:55 |
| XRS1 | all i know is i dont use a hard drive. everything i do is on USB | 21:55 |
| holstein | i have run installs from USB | 21:55 |
| XRS1 | the Mount option is greyed out in gparted | 21:56 |
| ailo | The idea is that if you have a system running, someone can't just stick a usb in, and have it autoload stuff. | 21:57 |
| XRS1 | yeah i know it doesnt automount. but this isnt mounting USB at all | 21:57 |
| len-dt | Then if it was mounted by root onto a mount point inside the normal directory tree it should work ok. May have to have something other that a fat FS though. | 21:57 |
| holstein | XRS1: i would blow it out, reformat, remove, replug | 21:57 |
| ailo | The disk utility tool is pretty decent too | 21:57 |
| XRS1 | running the zsync now | 21:57 |
| XRS1 | target 100%, no difference | 21:59 |
| XRS1 | formatting | 22:00 |
| XRS1 | using ext2 | 22:00 |
| ailo | XRS1: When I say, files on USB can't be executables, I mean, when the USB device is automounted. Not if it is mounted with fstab | 22:02 |
| ailo | I realized this when I started using a usb stick to keep some source I was developing. Noticed none of the scripts were working. | 22:03 |
| XRS1 | well it hasnt been a problem for me yet | 22:03 |
| ailo | Even if you do: chmod +x, it has no effect | 22:04 |
| XRS1 | new error | 22:05 |
| XRS1 | failed to mount 16 GB volume The given volume was not found | 22:05 |
| holstein | XRS1: i would manually mount it in the terminal | 22:06 |
| holstein | i might use sudo fdisk -l to make sure im calling the right name and all | 22:06 |
| ailo | I'm out. GN everybody | 22:06 |
| holstein | ailo: gn | 22:06 |
| XRS1 | bah... im too tired to mount in xterm... | 22:10 |
| XRS1 | will come back later after i have slept | 22:10 |
| holstein | i would just unplug it | 22:10 |
| XRS1 | i did | 22:11 |
| holstein | plug it back in, and click on it | 22:11 |
| XRS1 | it doesnt mount ANY USB devices | 22:11 |
| holstein | i just tested the 12.10 64bit iso post install.. mounting a usb stick was one of the tests it passed | 22:11 |
| holstein | i would like to see the output in the terminal when you try to do it manually | 22:11 |
| XRS1 | sorry. i cant mount thumbdrives. will try again later after i have rested. | 22:12 |
| holstein | i think that will help you troubleshoot the issue... when you have time | 22:12 |
| XRS1 | show me the command so i can copy paste | 22:12 |
| XRS1 | im blank right now | 22:12 |
| holstein | XRS1: it depends on what the partition is you want to mount | 22:12 |
| holstein | i always just refer to | 22:12 |
| holstein | !mount | XRS1 | 22:12 |
| ubottu | XRS1: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount | 22:12 |
| XRS1 | sdb1 | 22:12 |
| holstein | its just sudo mount what/ever where/ever | 22:13 |
| XRS1 | The given volume was not found | 22:15 |
| XRS1 | oops | 22:15 |
| XRS1 | mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt busy | 22:15 |
| XRS1 | mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt | 22:15 |
| holstein | probably is | 22:16 |
| XRS1 | but its not there | 22:16 |
| holstein | i would just look in the filemanager | 22:16 |
| XRS1 | i am right now. its not there | 22:16 |
| holstein | im sure its just something silly that we are overlooking | 22:16 |
| holstein | you can unmount everything | 22:16 |
| XRS1 | let me unmount n remount | 22:17 |
| holstein | i would mount it to a directory i make.. and i might specify the filetype.. but i dont think you are having issues | 22:17 |
| XRS1 | umount: /mnt/sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab) | 22:17 |
| holstein | XRS1: which is it then? | 22:18 |
| XRS1 | ... | 22:18 |
| holstein | is it mounted according to mtab? or not mounted? | 22:18 |
| XRS1 | if i mount, it says its mounted, if i try to unmount, it says its not mounted | 22:18 |
| holstein | i would just unplug it, and plug it in, and mkdir and sudo mount that thing to it | 22:18 |
| holstein | ok XRS1 , i gotta run to work... one more show today, then i can go home! | 22:22 |
| holstein | if its slow in here when you come back, you can try #ubuntu or #xubuntu | 22:22 |
| XRS1 | im in no rush | 22:22 |
| XRS1 | enjoy | 22:23 |
| holstein | this is something like show 16 out of 34... not sure if "joy" will enter into it... but it'll be OK :) | 22:24 |
| holstein | XRS1: did you get sorted? | 23:21 |
| XRS1 | not yet. let me try one more thing real quick | 23:22 |
| xrs1 | still no go on USB. i am installing on another laptop. we'll see what happens with that one | 23:30 |
| xrs1 | is this supposed to be a lightwieght distro? i've never seen that laptop boot a live disk so fast | 23:34 |
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