[00:08] hiya, any chance we can get some extra testing love on Ubuntu Studio? We need all the manitory and run once tests done, before we can ship the images tomorrow. [00:08] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds [00:34] skaet, All the 32bit stuff is done. Ailo, holstein are any of you able to do 64 bit? [00:35] * Len-nb would be happy to do 64bit if he had such a machine... [00:44] Thanks Len-nb. [03:36] away [03:36] len-dt: ping [03:36] holstein, [04:17] skaet: im getting a late start on the 64's [05:30] skaet: we have everything but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26107/testcases === gartral|Away is now known as gartral [07:51] This has got to be the most exciting distro I've seen hands down. Thanks everybody! [07:52] XRS1: Glad you like it. I do think there's a major problem with qjackctl not stopping jackdbus properly, but that is something that we've inherited from Debian [07:54] noted [07:54] XRS1: What makes you like Ubuntu Studio, if you don't mind spilling a couple of words on that? [07:55] I have many artist friends who would be very interested. not to mention just about every college kid in america [07:55] i've been using adobe myself and I am trying to break away [07:56] XRS1: Ah, so you're into publishing applications? [07:57] XRS1: Scribus? [07:57] well im actually in the tech industry but i end up having to do a lot of creative work and wearing of other hats. not to mention i like to start grand projects but end up bogged down bymyself and cant get any help as adobe is too expensive for others to be buying [07:57] I meant to say Calibre.. heh [07:58] XRS1: You can find Calibre for Windows too [08:00] i have a startup i am making mostly just as a demonstration of concept to some pro-am and D1 drifters, auto tracking camera systems, in car embedded media centers/engine data logging & AEM performance tuner intergation. i think i might be able to slip this in as a product somewhere :P [08:00] they just love to edit their own pictures and videos and post 'em on the web [08:01] A live DVD does include many of the apps you'd use for that. Unfortunately, for audio, there are missing codecs and such, if you want to work from a live image [08:02] solid state storage [08:05] looking into AEM on linux right now. i want to ditch the whole windows 8 touchscreen concept [08:06] I have seen very little of Win8, but the last bit I saw was that you couldn't turn off the touch screen thing (at least using a gui). I would suspect you can disable it - would be pretty lame otherwise [08:06] XFCE is in deed very traditional [08:08] XRS1: Did you try UbuntuStudio Quantal 12.10? Final version is being released today. It includes publishing applications in the DVD, in contrary to the 12.04 release [08:08] well the idea was win8 would be a good touchscreen OS, but after trying it out, its not really working out as well as I had hoped, and i dont want to support microsoft's windows 8 [08:08] nope. just found 12.04.1 a little bit ago by accident [08:10] was thinking LTS would be best but i dont see these things lasting long enough to need it. can just keep loading whatever is current onto new builds [08:10] XRS1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ [08:11] Or you can wait until the final release is out. Should be by tomorrow [08:11] The LTS is probably best, if you're going to keep the same software on a server for long periods [08:11] torrent link yet? [08:12] Doesn't seem so [08:12] The LTS probably has some advantages, what Unity is concerned. Perhaps less buggy. Don't really know. Otherwise, I don't think the LTS stands out [08:13] Not for multimedia apps anyway [08:14] 12.10 for Xfce based ones (xubuntu, ubuntustudio) the messaging indicator won't be a-working. [08:14] the envelope icon in the try? [08:15] tray* [08:15] Some other things may be a bit "off" [08:16] well you are going in the right direction, thats good enough for now [10:05] Tattoo artist friend of mine already wants to try it out. [10:29] smartboyhw - hiya, we seem to be missing an Upgrade test for Ubuntu Studio amd64 - would it be possible for that to be run in next couple of hours? [10:29] skaet, look at #ubuntu-release:D [10:31] skaet, options..what are they? [10:31] smartboyhw, be best if we can get the manditory tests all done. [10:32] am wondering if there are other people outside ubuntu studio team with the hardware handy, who can help? [10:32] skaet, best but real difficult [10:32] skaet, asked them on #ubuntu-testing already [10:33] skaet, I am zsyncing the iso for good.....Hopefully I am able to test it before deadline....When is the deadline BTW? [10:34] smartboyhw, at some point today ;) you've got a couple of hours [10:35] basically deadline is when all the infrastructure is up and ready. [10:35] skaet, good...Download ETA 19:23 minutes, but then I am also building 3.7-rc1 kernel so.........my CPU will explode after that:D [10:37] :) thanks smartboyhw let me know how it goes. [10:37] skaet, OK:D [10:37] * smartboyhw is revising Chinese, doing homework and doing testing with his parents on cruise...eh:( [10:41] skaet: how long has -studio got for the test? [10:43] phillw, er as skaet said: Couple of hours...should be enough hopefully [10:43] Thanks for caring about us phillw :D [10:43] is someone doing it? [10:44] smartboyhw: ? [10:46] phillw, I am now...Have to [10:47] phillw, infinity volunteered to do one for us:D [10:47] I haven't got enough data allowance on my 3G device to pull in the 12.04 and then the data for 12.10 :( [10:48] phillw, don't worry:D [11:19] smartboyhw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.10release_notes <-- is that where the Ubuntu Studio project's release notes will be this time around? [11:19] or is there another site? [11:19] * skaet updating the announcement email [11:19] skaet, IDK let me check [11:20] skaet, that page is blank [11:22] smartboyhw, yes, was wondering if there was another I should point to? or use: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio [11:23] skaet, use that link [11:23] * skaet not sure if there is a project specific new announce, like some of the other flavors have. [11:23] skaet, I mean the QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio [11:23] ok. I'll use ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio unless I hear otherwise ;) [11:23] skaet, ok [11:42] skaet, doing the upgrading now [12:25] skaet, upgrade package download 95% should finish quickly now:P [12:26] :) [12:26] Woah, you identified. :p [12:26] Unit193, what/ [13:14] skaet, what has to be done to declair ubuntustudio ready? Does it have to be ScottL? He would normally be online by now... [13:14] len-dt, wait for scott-work that is [13:14] :P [13:15] skaet, am I right? [13:19] smartboyhw, there are lots of reasons scott may not show... I was thinking there must be some kind of backup. [13:19] len-dt, I am the backup as QA Lead [13:22] smartboyhw, if scott-work isn't around in the next hour, as backup, please signoff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseManifest by putting the date in the column with "test sign-off", beside the ubuntu studio images. Add a comment to the commit, you're doing it on scott-work's behalf, and all should be good. [13:23] skaet, OK [13:26] Hello [13:27] Xubuntu 12.04.1 here, can anyone please help me to get my softsynth working? [13:29] or at least how to get internal synth working (fluidsynth)? [13:29] my ALSA is glitching I think [13:42] sticky1: ALSA, or jack+alsa? [13:44] sticky1: Are you playing it live? What is your latency setting? Did you adminster realtime privilege for your user? If low latency, did you install linux-lowlatency? [13:45] sorry I was doinstairs for a minute [13:45] *downstairs [13:45] I have MuseScore and a bunch of Wine apps that I want to set up not only with fluidsynth (if possible) but also with my X-MIDI adapter (my digital piano) [13:46] and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do [13:48] ailo-w: but I thought that fluidsynth was preinstalled or something? [13:48] I have no idea how to set up MIDI connections [13:49] sticky1: Do you know about jack? [13:49] I believe it is an software MIDI cable amirite? [13:49] *a [13:50] sticky1: Here's a bit about the sound on Ubuntu Studio https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204 [13:50] it's a server appearantly [13:50] I'd recommend for you to install Ubuntu Studio, to get everything set up by default. [13:50] sticky1: It's a pro audio sound system, for both audio and midi [13:50] oh wait [13:51] I now know why it doesn't work [13:51] let me show you [13:51] sticky1: I need to go, but perhaps someone else can help you [13:51] Time to go home.. [13:51] can you stay 1 more minute [13:51] just one [13:52] lol [13:52] http://imgur.com/zUOIU [13:53] it is Dutch, it says Couldn't open ALSA as sequencer client. The ALSA MIDI patchbay shan't be available. or something like that [13:53] what am I supposed to do now [13:55] len-dt, the backup system is used now and I marked the release ready [14:06] smartboyhw, Thankyou. [14:07] len-dt, :D [14:14] AWESOME! Loving what im seeing from this 12.10! [14:31] sticky1: Try #opensourcemusicians too. I haven't used fluidsynth fonts for a good while [14:31] US-XRS1, :) [14:31] ailo thanks for the response... [14:31] I'll try [14:31] bye [14:31] sticky1: Also, I would check docs for the program you use [14:31] ok [14:32] But everything should run fine but I get that error [14:32] Have you googled the error? [14:32] yeah not many useful solutions [14:32] That's what I would need to do, aside from finding out again how the sound fonts work [17:16] the whole "For humans" according to the studies that Microsoft Bob was based off, that wording is going to be a big subconscious turn off. should change that to People. [17:34] first thing i thought when my computer booted up is what are you an alien? is this skynet or something? :P [17:35] XRS1, what? [17:36] just the whole "Made for humans." on the bootscreen [17:36] XRS1: you can file a "wishlist" bug [17:37] interesting [17:37] i can assure you that sentence is not on the list of things to change [17:37] not that we wont be open to criticism, or suggestions [17:37] XRS1: you can try the dev channel and/or dev mailing list, but we are far from dealing with that level of refinement [17:38] plus, thats something we have hanging around from early ubuntu slogans [17:39] i just thought it funny as i just finished reading a study on human interaction with machines and that was almost exactly like one of the examples they used (along with the Einstein looking "Clippy" sneezing when you close him.) [17:40] they? [17:40] you mean, us? or microsoft? [17:40] who ever the author of the published findings were [17:41] i think the idea is that its ubuntu for humans, as opposed to an operating system for super technical folks [17:41] like, anyone can use it.. thats the idea [17:41] its just a slogan though, i wouldnt read too much into it [17:41] i like it because it isnt gender specific [17:42] and my cat sure as heck shouldnt be using it :P [17:43] smartboyhw, and rest of ubuntu studio team, congrats on getting Ubuntu Studio 12.10 released! :) [17:43] skaet, yeah:) [17:44] skaet: thanks!... we couldnt do it witout you!! [18:36] ? "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported." [19:17] salut [19:20] y a kelkun? [20:21] i cant mount USB mass storage devices [20:22] XRS1: How are you mounting? [20:22] clicking on the desktop icon [20:41] XRS1: Is this the live DVD, or an install? [20:43] install. i got antsy and got 12.10 from cdimage.ubuntu.com before the official release [20:44] well its already installed i mean [20:45] XRS1: We've done testing with that, and so far no one had any problems. I'll see if I can do some tomorrow. [20:45] Will need to do a fresh install to do that [20:46] should i just grab the official? [20:46] now that its out [20:46] or, im assumeing its out? O_o [20:47] It is, but zsync since you already have most of it. [20:47] yeah its out. [20:47] !zsync [20:47] Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage [20:47] oh cool [20:47] XRS1: I'm almost certain it is the exact same thing. But, you can always give it a try [20:48] And if it is, it'll say 100% [21:29] XRS1, running 12.10 here no problems mounting USB stick. [21:29] hmm... tried 3. 1 is brand new out of the packageing. already tried rebooting [21:30] This one has been well used :) I use it for testing ISOs. [21:31] "Failed to mount 16 GB Volume. Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported" [21:46] XRS1: Something about permissions. Have you googled it? [21:52] I do recall The 16G stick I have when I got it there were some things that didn't work [21:52] !mount [21:52] mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [21:53] I repartitioned/formated it and it was fine. [21:53] yeah, i would just look in gparted for it XRS1 [21:53] Executables can't be run from USB [21:54] ? [21:54] That's all I know, aside from file systems, which Linux can handle [21:54] yes they can? [21:54] XRS1: open gparted and reformat and try [21:54] gotta install it. didnt come with the install [21:55] XRS1: Not on Linux. You can run a script as "bash myscript", but you can't do "./myscript" [21:55] It's a safety, I believe. There was some talk about USB automaounting posing a security hole [21:55] all i know is i dont use a hard drive. everything i do is on USB [21:55] i have run installs from USB [21:56] the Mount option is greyed out in gparted [21:57] The idea is that if you have a system running, someone can't just stick a usb in, and have it autoload stuff. [21:57] yeah i know it doesnt automount. but this isnt mounting USB at all [21:57] Then if it was mounted by root onto a mount point inside the normal directory tree it should work ok. May have to have something other that a fat FS though. [21:57] XRS1: i would blow it out, reformat, remove, replug [21:57] The disk utility tool is pretty decent too [21:57] running the zsync now [21:59] target 100%, no difference [22:00] formatting [22:00] using ext2 [22:02] XRS1: When I say, files on USB can't be executables, I mean, when the USB device is automounted. Not if it is mounted with fstab [22:03] I realized this when I started using a usb stick to keep some source I was developing. Noticed none of the scripts were working. [22:03] well it hasnt been a problem for me yet [22:04] Even if you do: chmod +x, it has no effect [22:05] new error [22:05] failed to mount 16 GB volume The given volume was not found [22:06] XRS1: i would manually mount it in the terminal [22:06] i might use sudo fdisk -l to make sure im calling the right name and all [22:06] I'm out. GN everybody [22:06] ailo: gn [22:10] bah... im too tired to mount in xterm... [22:10] will come back later after i have slept [22:10] i would just unplug it [22:11] i did [22:11] plug it back in, and click on it [22:11] it doesnt mount ANY USB devices [22:11] i just tested the 12.10 64bit iso post install.. mounting a usb stick was one of the tests it passed [22:11] i would like to see the output in the terminal when you try to do it manually [22:12] sorry. i cant mount thumbdrives. will try again later after i have rested. [22:12] i think that will help you troubleshoot the issue... when you have time [22:12] show me the command so i can copy paste [22:12] im blank right now [22:12] XRS1: it depends on what the partition is you want to mount [22:12] i always just refer to [22:12] !mount | XRS1 [22:12] XRS1: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [22:12] sdb1 [22:13] its just sudo mount what/ever where/ever [22:15] The given volume was not found [22:15] oops [22:15] mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt busy [22:15] mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt [22:16] probably is [22:16] but its not there [22:16] i would just look in the filemanager [22:16] i am right now. its not there [22:16] im sure its just something silly that we are overlooking [22:16] you can unmount everything [22:17] let me unmount n remount [22:17] i would mount it to a directory i make.. and i might specify the filetype.. but i dont think you are having issues [22:17] umount: /mnt/sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab) [22:18] XRS1: which is it then? [22:18] ... [22:18] is it mounted according to mtab? or not mounted? [22:18] if i mount, it says its mounted, if i try to unmount, it says its not mounted [22:18] i would just unplug it, and plug it in, and mkdir and sudo mount that thing to it [22:22] ok XRS1 , i gotta run to work... one more show today, then i can go home! [22:22] if its slow in here when you come back, you can try #ubuntu or #xubuntu [22:22] im in no rush [22:23] enjoy [22:24] this is something like show 16 out of 34... not sure if "joy" will enter into it... but it'll be OK :) [23:21] XRS1: did you get sorted? [23:22] not yet. let me try one more thing real quick [23:30] still no go on USB. i am installing on another laptop. we'll see what happens with that one [23:34] is this supposed to be a lightwieght distro? i've never seen that laptop boot a live disk so fast