[00:08] <skaet> hiya,  any chance we can get some extra testing love on Ubuntu Studio?    We need all the manitory and run once tests done, before we can ship the images tomorrow.
[00:08] <skaet> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds
[00:34] <Len-nb> skaet, All the 32bit stuff is done. Ailo, holstein are any of you able to do 64 bit?
[00:35]  * Len-nb would be happy to do 64bit if he had such a machine...
[00:44] <skaet> Thanks Len-nb.
[03:36] <holstein> away
[03:36] <holstein> len-dt: ping
[03:36] <Len-nb> holstein,
[04:17] <holstein> skaet: im getting a late start on the 64's
[05:30] <holstein> skaet: we have everything but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/26107/testcases
[07:51] <XRS1> This has got to be the most exciting distro I've seen hands down. Thanks everybody!
[07:52] <ailo-w> XRS1: Glad you like it. I do think there's a major problem with qjackctl not stopping jackdbus properly, but that is something that we've inherited from Debian
[07:54] <XRS1> noted
[07:54] <ailo-w> XRS1: What makes you like Ubuntu Studio, if you don't mind spilling a couple of words on that?
[07:55] <XRS1> I have many artist friends who would be very interested. not to mention just about every college kid in america
[07:55] <XRS1> i've been using adobe myself and I am trying to break away
[07:56] <ailo-w> XRS1: Ah, so you're into publishing applications?
[07:57] <ailo-w> XRS1: Scribus?
[07:57] <XRS1> well im actually in the tech industry but i end up having to do a lot of creative work and wearing of other hats. not to mention i like to start grand projects but end up bogged down bymyself and cant get any help as adobe is too expensive for others to be buying
[07:57] <ailo-w> I meant to say Calibre.. heh
[07:58] <ailo-w> XRS1: You can find Calibre for Windows too
[08:00] <XRS1> i have a startup i am making mostly just as a demonstration of concept to some pro-am and D1 drifters, auto tracking camera systems, in car embedded media centers/engine data logging & AEM performance tuner intergation. i think i might be able to slip this in as a product somewhere  :P
[08:00] <XRS1> they just love to edit their own pictures and videos and post 'em on the web
[08:01] <ailo-w> A live DVD does include many of the apps you'd use for that. Unfortunately, for audio, there are missing codecs and such, if you want to work from a live image
[08:02] <XRS1> solid state storage
[08:05] <XRS1> looking into AEM on linux right now. i want to ditch the whole windows 8 touchscreen concept
[08:06] <ailo-w> I have seen very little of Win8, but the last bit I saw was that you couldn't turn off the touch screen thing (at least using a gui). I would suspect you can disable it - would be pretty lame otherwise
[08:06] <ailo-w> XFCE is in deed very traditional
[08:08] <ailo-w> XRS1: Did you try UbuntuStudio Quantal 12.10? Final version is being released today. It includes publishing applications in the DVD, in contrary to the 12.04 release
[08:08] <XRS1> well the idea was win8 would be a good touchscreen OS, but after trying it out, its not really working out as well as I had hoped, and i dont want to support microsoft's windows 8
[08:08] <XRS1> nope. just found 12.04.1 a little bit ago by accident
[08:10] <XRS1> was thinking LTS would be best but i dont see these things lasting long enough to need it. can just keep loading whatever is current onto new builds
[08:10] <ailo-w> XRS1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/
[08:11] <ailo-w> Or you can wait until the final release is out. Should be by tomorrow
[08:11] <ailo-w> The LTS is probably best, if you're going to keep the same software on a server for long periods
[08:11] <XRS1> torrent link yet?
[08:12] <ailo-w> Doesn't seem so
[08:12] <ailo-w> The LTS probably has some advantages, what Unity is concerned. Perhaps less buggy. Don't really know. Otherwise, I don't think the LTS stands out
[08:13] <ailo-w> Not for multimedia apps anyway
[08:14] <Unit193> 12.10 for Xfce based ones (xubuntu, ubuntustudio) the messaging indicator won't be a-working.
[08:14] <XRS1> the envelope icon in the try?
[08:15] <XRS1> tray*
[08:15] <Unit193> Some other things may be a bit "off"
[08:16] <XRS1> well you are going in the right direction, thats good enough for now
[10:05] <XRS1> Tattoo artist friend of mine already wants to try it out.
[10:29] <skaet> smartboyhw - hiya,  we seem to be missing an Upgrade test for Ubuntu Studio amd64 - would it be possible for that to be run in next couple of hours?
[10:29] <smartboyhw> skaet, look at #ubuntu-release:D
[10:31] <smartboyhw> skaet, options..what are they?
[10:31] <skaet> smartboyhw,   be best if we can get the manditory tests all done.
[10:32] <skaet> am wondering if there are other people outside ubuntu studio team with the hardware handy,  who can help?
[10:32] <smartboyhw> skaet, best but real difficult
[10:32] <smartboyhw> skaet, asked them on #ubuntu-testing already
[10:33] <smartboyhw> skaet, I am zsyncing the iso for good.....Hopefully I am able to test it before deadline....When is the deadline BTW?
[10:34] <skaet> smartboyhw,   at some point today ;)  you've got a couple of hours
[10:35] <skaet> basically deadline is when all the infrastructure is up and ready.
[10:35] <smartboyhw> skaet, good...Download ETA 19:23 minutes, but then I am also building 3.7-rc1 kernel so.........my CPU will explode after that:D
[10:37] <skaet> :)  thanks smartboyhw    let me know how it goes.
[10:37] <smartboyhw> skaet, OK:D
[10:37]  * smartboyhw is revising Chinese, doing homework and doing testing with his parents on cruise...eh:(
[10:41] <phillw> skaet: how long has -studio got for the test?
[10:43] <smartboyhw> phillw, er as skaet said: Couple of hours...should be enough hopefully
[10:43] <smartboyhw> Thanks for caring about us phillw :D
[10:43] <phillw> is someone doing it?
[10:44] <phillw> smartboyhw: ?
[10:46] <smartboyhw> phillw, I am now...Have to
[10:47] <smartboyhw> phillw, infinity volunteered to do one for us:D
[10:47] <phillw> I haven't got enough data allowance on my 3G device to pull in the 12.04 and then the data for 12.10 :(
[10:48] <smartboyhw> phillw, don't worry:D
[11:19] <skaet> smartboyhw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.10release_notes <-- is that where the Ubuntu Studio project's release notes will be this time around?
[11:19] <skaet> or is there another site?
[11:19]  * skaet updating the announcement email
[11:19] <smartboyhw> skaet, IDK let me check
[11:20] <smartboyhw> skaet, that page is blank
[11:22] <skaet> smartboyhw,  yes,   was wondering if there was another I should point to?   or use: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[11:23] <smartboyhw> skaet, use that link
[11:23]  * skaet not sure if there is a project specific new announce,  like some of the other flavors have.
[11:23] <smartboyhw> skaet, I mean the QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[11:23] <skaet> ok.  I'll use ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio unless I hear otherwise ;)
[11:23] <smartboyhw> skaet, ok
[11:42] <smartboyhw> skaet, doing the upgrading now
[12:25] <smartboyhw> skaet, upgrade package download 95% should finish quickly now:P
[12:26] <skaet> :)
[12:26] <Unit193> Woah, you identified. :p
[12:26] <smartboyhw> Unit193, what/
[13:14] <len-dt> skaet, what has to be done to declair ubuntustudio ready? Does it have to be ScottL? He would normally be online by now...
[13:14] <smartboyhw> len-dt, wait for scott-work that is
[13:14] <smartboyhw> :P
[13:15] <smartboyhw> skaet, am I right?
[13:19] <len-dt> smartboyhw, there are lots of reasons scott may not show... I was thinking there must be some kind of backup.
[13:19] <smartboyhw> len-dt, I am the backup as QA Lead
[13:22] <skaet> smartboyhw,   if scott-work isn't around in the next hour,  as backup, please signoff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseManifest by putting the date in the column with "test sign-off", beside the ubuntu studio images.    Add a comment to the commit, you're doing it on scott-work's behalf,  and all should be good.
[13:23] <smartboyhw> skaet, OK
[13:26] <sticky1> Hello
[13:27] <sticky1> Xubuntu 12.04.1 here, can anyone please help me to get my softsynth working?
[13:29] <sticky1> or at least how to get internal synth working (fluidsynth)?
[13:29] <sticky1> my ALSA is glitching I think
[13:42] <ailo-w> sticky1: ALSA, or jack+alsa?
[13:44] <ailo-w> sticky1: Are you playing it live? What is your latency setting? Did you adminster realtime privilege for your user? If low latency, did you install linux-lowlatency?
[13:45] <sticky1> sorry I was doinstairs for a minute
[13:45] <sticky1> *downstairs
[13:45] <sticky1> I have MuseScore and a bunch of Wine apps that I want to set up not only with fluidsynth (if possible) but also with my X-MIDI adapter (my digital piano)
[13:46] <sticky1> and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do
[13:48] <sticky1> ailo-w: but I thought that fluidsynth was preinstalled or something?
[13:48] <sticky1> I have no idea how to set up MIDI connections
[13:49] <ailo-w> sticky1: Do you know about jack?
[13:49] <sticky1> I believe it is an software MIDI cable amirite?
[13:49] <sticky1> *a
[13:50] <ailo-w> sticky1: Here's a bit about the sound on Ubuntu Studio https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204
[13:50] <sticky1> it's a server appearantly
[13:50] <ailo-w> I'd recommend for you to install Ubuntu Studio, to get everything set up by default.
[13:50] <ailo-w> sticky1: It's a pro audio sound system, for both audio and midi
[13:50] <sticky1> oh wait
[13:51] <sticky1> I now know why it doesn't work
[13:51] <sticky1> let me show you
[13:51] <ailo-w> sticky1: I need to go, but perhaps someone else can help you
[13:51] <ailo-w> Time to go home..
[13:51] <sticky1> can you stay 1 more minute
[13:51] <sticky1> just one
[13:52] <smartboyhw> lol
[13:52] <sticky1> http://imgur.com/zUOIU
[13:53] <sticky1> it is Dutch, it says Couldn't open ALSA as sequencer client. The ALSA MIDI patchbay shan't be available. or something like that
[13:53] <sticky1> what am I supposed to do now
[13:55] <smartboyhw> len-dt, the backup system is used now and I marked the release ready
[14:06] <len-dt> smartboyhw, Thankyou.
[14:07] <smartboyhw> len-dt, :D
[14:14] <US-XRS1> AWESOME!  Loving what im seeing from this 12.10!
[14:31] <ailo> sticky1: Try #opensourcemusicians too. I haven't used fluidsynth fonts for a good while
[14:31] <smartboyhw> US-XRS1, :)
[14:31] <sticky1> ailo thanks for the response...
[14:31] <sticky1> I'll try
[14:31] <sticky1> bye
[14:31] <ailo> sticky1: Also, I would check docs for the program you use
[14:31] <sticky1> ok
[14:32] <sticky1> But everything should run fine but I get that error
[14:32] <ailo> Have you googled the error?
[14:32] <sticky1> yeah not many useful solutions
[14:32] <ailo> That's what I would need to do, aside from finding out again how the sound fonts work
[17:16] <XRS1> the whole "For humans"  according to the studies that Microsoft Bob was based off, that wording is going to be a big subconscious turn off. should change that to People.
[17:34] <XRS1> first thing i thought when my computer booted up is what are you an alien? is this skynet or something?  :P
[17:35] <smartboyhw> XRS1, what?
[17:36] <XRS1> just the whole "Made for humans." on the bootscreen
[17:36] <holstein> XRS1: you can file a "wishlist" bug
[17:37] <XRS1> interesting
[17:37] <holstein> i can assure you that sentence is not on the list of things to change
[17:37] <holstein> not that we wont be open to criticism, or suggestions
[17:37] <holstein> XRS1: you can try the dev channel and/or dev mailing list, but we are far from dealing with that level of refinement
[17:38] <holstein> plus, thats something we have hanging around from early ubuntu slogans
[17:39] <XRS1> i just thought it funny as i just finished reading a study on human interaction with machines and that was almost exactly like one of the examples they used (along with the Einstein looking "Clippy" sneezing when you close him.)
[17:40] <holstein> they?
[17:40] <holstein> you mean, us? or microsoft?
[17:40] <XRS1> who ever the author of the published findings were
[17:41] <holstein> i think the idea is that its ubuntu for humans, as opposed to an operating system for super technical folks
[17:41] <holstein> like, anyone can use it.. thats the idea
[17:41] <holstein> its just a slogan though, i wouldnt read too much into it
[17:41] <XRS1> i like it because it isnt gender specific
[17:42] <XRS1> and my cat sure as heck shouldnt be using it  :P
[17:43] <skaet> smartboyhw, and rest of ubuntu studio team,  congrats on getting Ubuntu Studio 12.10 released!  :)
[17:43] <smartboyhw> skaet, yeah:)
[17:44] <holstein> skaet: thanks!... we couldnt do it witout you!!
[18:36] <XRS1> ? "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported."
[19:17] <fritz_cx> salut
[19:20] <fritz_cx> y a kelkun?
[20:21] <XRS1> i cant mount USB mass storage devices
[20:22] <ailo> XRS1: How are you mounting?
[20:22] <XRS1> clicking on the desktop icon
[20:41] <ailo> XRS1: Is this the live DVD, or an install?
[20:43] <XRS1> install. i got antsy and got 12.10 from cdimage.ubuntu.com before the official release
[20:44] <XRS1> well its already installed i mean
[20:45] <ailo> XRS1: We've done testing with that, and so far no one had any problems. I'll see if I can do some tomorrow.
[20:45] <ailo> Will need to do a fresh install to do that
[20:46] <XRS1> should i just grab the official?
[20:46] <XRS1> now that its out
[20:46] <XRS1> or, im assumeing its out?  O_o
[20:47] <Unit193> It is, but zsync since you already have most of it.
[20:47] <XRS1> yeah its out.
[20:47] <Unit193> !zsync
[20:47] <XRS1> oh cool
[20:47] <ailo> XRS1: I'm almost certain it is the exact same thing. But, you can always give it a try
[20:48] <Unit193> And if it is, it'll say 100%
[21:29] <len-dt> XRS1, running 12.10 here no problems mounting USB stick.
[21:29] <XRS1> hmm... tried 3. 1 is brand new out of the packageing. already tried rebooting
[21:30] <len-dt> This one has been well used :) I use it for testing ISOs.
[21:31] <XRS1> "Failed to mount 16 GB Volume. Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported"
[21:46] <ailo> XRS1: Something about permissions. Have you googled it?
[21:52] <len-dt> I do recall The 16G stick I have when I got it there were some things that didn't work
[21:52] <holstein> !mount
[21:53] <len-dt> I repartitioned/formated it and it was fine.
[21:53] <holstein> yeah, i would just look in gparted for it XRS1
[21:53] <ailo> Executables can't be run from USB
[21:54] <XRS1> ?
[21:54] <ailo> That's all I know, aside from file systems, which Linux can handle
[21:54] <XRS1> yes they can?
[21:54] <holstein> XRS1: open gparted and reformat and try
[21:54] <XRS1> gotta install it. didnt come with the install
[21:55] <ailo> XRS1: Not on Linux. You can run a script as "bash myscript", but you can't do "./myscript"
[21:55] <ailo> It's a safety, I believe. There was some talk about USB automaounting posing a security hole
[21:55] <XRS1> all i know is i dont use a hard drive. everything i do is on USB
[21:55] <holstein> i have run installs from USB
[21:56] <XRS1> the Mount option is greyed out in gparted
[21:57] <ailo> The idea is that if you have a system running, someone can't just stick a usb in, and have it autoload stuff.
[21:57] <XRS1> yeah i know it doesnt automount. but this isnt mounting USB at all
[21:57] <len-dt> Then if it was mounted by root onto a mount point inside the normal directory tree it should work ok. May have to have something other that a fat FS though.
[21:57] <holstein> XRS1: i would blow it out, reformat, remove, replug
[21:57] <ailo> The disk utility tool is pretty decent too
[21:57] <XRS1> running the zsync now
[21:59] <XRS1> target 100%, no difference
[22:00] <XRS1> formatting
[22:00] <XRS1> using ext2
[22:02] <ailo> XRS1: When I say, files on USB can't be executables, I mean, when the USB device is automounted. Not if it is mounted with fstab
[22:03] <ailo> I realized this when I started using a usb stick to keep some source I was developing. Noticed none of the scripts were working.
[22:03] <XRS1> well it hasnt been a problem for me yet
[22:04] <ailo> Even if you do: chmod +x, it has no effect
[22:05] <XRS1> new error
[22:05] <XRS1> failed to mount 16 GB volume The given volume was not found
[22:06] <holstein> XRS1: i would manually mount it in the terminal
[22:06] <holstein> i might use sudo fdisk -l to make sure im calling the right name and all
[22:06] <ailo> I'm out. GN everybody
[22:06] <holstein> ailo: gn
[22:10] <XRS1> bah... im too tired to mount in xterm...
[22:10] <XRS1> will come back later after i have slept
[22:10] <holstein> i would just unplug it
[22:11] <XRS1> i did
[22:11] <holstein> plug it back in, and click on it
[22:11] <XRS1> it doesnt mount ANY USB devices
[22:11] <holstein> i just tested the 12.10 64bit iso post install.. mounting a usb stick was one of the tests it passed
[22:11] <holstein> i would like to see the output in the terminal when you try to do it manually
[22:12] <XRS1> sorry. i cant mount thumbdrives. will try again later after i have rested.
[22:12] <holstein> i think that will help you troubleshoot the issue... when you have time
[22:12] <XRS1> show me the command so i can copy paste
[22:12] <XRS1> im blank right now
[22:12] <holstein> XRS1: it depends on what the partition is you want to mount
[22:12] <holstein> i always just refer to
[22:12] <holstein> !mount | XRS1
[22:12] <XRS1> sdb1
[22:13] <holstein> its just sudo mount what/ever where/ever
[22:15] <XRS1> The given volume was not found
[22:15] <XRS1> oops
[22:15] <XRS1> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[22:15] <XRS1> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt
[22:16] <holstein> probably is
[22:16] <XRS1> but its not there
[22:16] <holstein> i would just look in the filemanager
[22:16] <XRS1> i am right now. its not there
[22:16] <holstein> im sure its just something silly that we are overlooking
[22:16] <holstein> you can unmount everything
[22:17] <XRS1> let me unmount n remount
[22:17] <holstein> i would mount it to a directory i make.. and i might specify the filetype.. but i dont think you are having issues
[22:17] <XRS1> umount: /mnt/sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[22:18] <holstein> XRS1: which is it then?
[22:18] <XRS1> ...
[22:18] <holstein> is it mounted according to mtab? or not mounted?
[22:18] <XRS1> if i mount, it says its mounted, if i try to unmount, it says its not mounted
[22:18] <holstein> i would just unplug it, and plug it in, and mkdir and sudo mount that thing to it
[22:22] <holstein> ok XRS1 , i gotta run to work... one more show today, then i can go home!
[22:22] <holstein> if its slow in here when you come back, you can try #ubuntu or #xubuntu
[22:22] <XRS1> im in no rush
[22:23] <XRS1> enjoy
[22:24] <holstein> this is something like show 16 out of 34... not sure if "joy" will enter into it... but it'll be OK :)
[23:21] <holstein> XRS1: did you get sorted?
[23:22] <XRS1> not yet. let me try one more thing real quick
[23:30] <xrs1> still no go on USB. i am installing on another laptop. we'll see what happens with that one
[23:34] <xrs1> is this supposed to be a lightwieght distro? i've never seen that laptop boot a live disk so fast