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gryHow is it possible to set lightdm to prompt for username?06:31
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ElesaHi, how do I remove the shadows under the Desktop icons? Also, how can I set up the dekstop to show full file names instead of just a part and then ...?08:49
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gryHow can I help you, xubuntu341?08:59
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kkkjjjuuuhello, world11:31
kkkjjjuuuhelp me pls11:31
Mathiasonly a small part of the world is here :P11:31
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baizonkkkjjjuuu: whats the problem?11:33
kkkjjjuuui can't to conigure microphon on xubuntu 12.04 netbook msi u10011:33
baizonkkkjjjuuu: have you tried with pavucontrol?11:34
kkkjjjuuuI'm used alsaconfig11:34
baizonkkkjjjuuu: try pavucontrol ;)11:36
kkkjjjuuuthx, trying11:36
kkkjjjuuuwell, I'm using pavucontrol11:38
kkkjjjuuunot work11:39
baizonis the microphone showing up?11:39
kkkjjjuuuis the background sound of the noise, but when I speak into the microphone, nothing happens11:42
kkkjjjuuuа есть кто по русски умеет говорить?11:42
baizonmaybe you got the wrong input11:42
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Ady23hello12:05
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ubottuAdy23: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!12:06
Ady23when will the final release of xubuntu will be available for dwonload?12:06
baizonAdy23: in the next 24h12:07
Ady23well on wikipedia it says it will be launched on 18 october12:07
Ady23is'nt today 18 october?12:08
baizonit is12:08
recon_lapAdy23:  never is a final release , then come every 6 months :) . I personally never in a hurry to upgrade12:08
Ady23yesterday i bougjt an asus eepc and i wanna try xubuntu on it12:08
Ady23i waited for the final release12:08
baizonAdy23: it will be released on 18'th of october but US time ;)12:09
Ady23and i thought today i will download it..12:09
baizonyou can download it today12:09
Ady23us time...12:09
Ady23that means tomorow12:09
Ady23right?12:09
recon_lapAdy23: I'd suggest try with 12.04.1 or wait a couple of days and you can try 12.1012:09
baizonyep12:09
Ady23another question12:10
recon_lapAdy23: do you have a USB flash drive?12:10
Ady23cand i play videos on my asus eepc trough hdmi interface?12:10
baizonAdy23: what eeepc do you have?12:10
baizonAdy23: i can do it with xubuntu 12.10, with 12.04 hdmi sound isnt working on the open source drivers12:11
Sysiunless it has weird nvidia hybrid gpu, you should be able to12:11
Ady23Asus 1015BX12:11
baizonAdy23: i recommend 12.10, because of the 3.5 kernel12:11
Ady23it has apu12:11
baizonhdmi will work fine with it12:11
Ady23amd c6012:11
Ady23and radeon 629012:12
baizonyes i know12:12
Ady23will it work?12:12
baizonwith 12.10 yes12:12
Sysibaizon: aren't proprietary drivers much more power-efficient?12:12
baizonim using xubuntu and hdmi12:12
recon_lapAdy23: you should be able to play movies , I'v got a good link for you  https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn12:12
baizonSysi: well i think yes, but multi-monitor support is awefull12:12
baizonoss drivers are much better12:12
Sysibaizon: doesn't ati have on setup tool for that?12:13
baizonyes, but its hard to use12:13
baizonaticonfig12:13
Ady23so i jus plug in and works no other settings neded?12:13
baizonbut i got problems with graphics and refresh rate12:13
baizonAdy23: with 12.10 yes12:13
Ady23i'm a beginer on linux12:13
baizonwith 12.04 you need the proprietary drivers12:14
baizonthen everything will work aswell12:14
Ady23and you recomend me to instal propietary drivers or to leave it without it?12:14
baizonyou can test both12:14
baizoni dont use it12:15
baizonthey were to unstable for me12:15
baizonand i need fast and easy multi-monitor support12:15
baizonwith arandr its very easy12:15
baizonbut you can test both like i said :)12:15
baizonthats my personal opinion12:15
Ady23ok i got it12:16
Ady23but i read ati drivers are'nt very well suported on linux?12:16
Ady23is that true?12:16
baizonwell they are ok12:16
baizonfor games and hdmi12:16
baizonbut when it comes to multi-monitor, they arent so good imo12:17
recon_lapAdy23: general rule is if it brand new it tends not to be supported well12:17
koegsi had no problems with a ati 7950, three monitors and xubuntu :)12:17
koegsproprietary drivers from ati.com of course12:17
baizonkoegs: with the proprietary?12:17
baizonhow did you solved it?12:18
baizoni mean, how did you set it up?12:18
koegswith amdcccle :)12:18
baizonwell for me it wasnt working at all12:18
baizonkoegs: did you use xinerama?12:19
koegsamdcccle had some problems with segfaults, but if it di not segfault, there was no problem setting up the monitors12:19
baizonhmm12:20
koegsxubuntu still has no tool to setup a system-wide proxy, right?12:20
baizonmaybe ill test it12:20
baizonkoegs: i think no12:20
koegsso apt.conf and /etc/profile it is :)12:21
recon_lapAdy23: anyway, you should create a live USB, that is installing xubuntu onto a USB stick and booting from that, lets you see if you are going to have any issues before you install anything on you eepc .12:22
recon_lapAdy23: use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows but use the xubuntu ISO instead of the ubuntu one12:31
xubuntu310hello?13:11
huggy-bearhello?13:11
huggy-bear:)13:11
xubuntu310I am looking for help with xubuntu and the screen lock13:11
huggy-bearwhat is the problem?13:11
xubuntu310when I lock my screen and go home for the day13:11
xubuntu310and come back the next....my PC is unlocked.....13:12
xubuntu310the screen lock is crashing, and leaving my PC unlocked13:12
xubuntu310which is a real deal breaker for me.....13:12
huggy-bearon 12.04?13:12
xubuntu310yes13:12
xubuntu310happened last night (or early this morning)13:13
xubuntu310so today, when I got to work, my PC was wide open13:13
huggy-bearthat is rather strange.13:13
huggy-bearlet me check something13:13
xubuntu679will xubuntu ship with xfce 4.10 and kernel 3.5 ?13:13
recon_lapxubuntu310: wide open?13:13
xubuntu310unlocked....anybody could have sat there and used my PC13:14
xubuntu310if I go to the log out menu and attempt to lock my PC again, nothing happens13:14
xubuntu310xscreensaver 5.1513:15
recon_lapxubuntu310: running xubuntu? check for usb keys ?13:15
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xubuntu310like flash drives?13:16
huggy-bear310, yeah13:16
xubuntu310keyboard and mouse are usb....that's it13:16
xubuntu310no drives plugged in13:17
huggy-bearI would also suggest stopping xscreensaver, deleting xscreensaver settings and loging out/back in again. any1 know where the local settings are?13:17
xubuntu310I can't even find a log file that shows that it crashed13:17
Sysixubuntu310: run "cat ~/.xsession-errors" and copy output to http://paste.ubuntu.com13:17
recon_lapxubuntu310: I take it you PC normally asks for a login, and does not auto login13:18
Sysi(you can open that file with other apps too, it's hidden file in home folder)13:18
huggy-beari have found the settings file. it's ~/.xscreensaver13:18
xubuntu310yes, login required13:18
recon_lapxubuntu310: and it was logged into your account and not the guest account? and you turned it off last night when you left.13:20
Sysirecon_lap: screen locking currently failing would indicate that xscreensaver actually has crashed13:21
SysiI've heard someone reporting same issue, can't remember what xubuntu version13:21
xubuntu310yes....I locked the screen last night from the menu (the logout menu with my user name)....when I got to work this morning my PC was unlocked....this has happened numerous times13:23
xubuntu310I'm on that PC now...and when I try to lock the screen from the menu, it doesn't do anything.....13:23
Sysiyou could remove xscreensaver and use gnome-screensaver13:23
xubuntu310I'll have to log out and back in for that menu option to start working again13:24
Mathiastried the reset-thing?13:24
Mathiasor "sudo apt-get --purge remove xscreensaver && sudo apt-get install xscreensaver"13:25
xubuntu310deleting ~/.xscreensaver13:25
huggy-beardon't forget to start xscreensaver if it has crashed13:25
xubuntu310before I do that....shouldn't there be a log file someplace with some details?13:25
xubuntu310I can't tell if it's crashed or just "hung"13:26
huggy-beardo: ps -A | grep xscreen13:26
xubuntu310ps -ef | grep xscreen13:26
Sysi.xsession-errors might have something13:27
xubuntu310ps -A | grep xscreen has no results13:27
huggy-beargood13:27
xubuntu310which means it's dead13:27
huggy-bearthen it's not running13:27
huggy-bearnow ALT+F2, enter: xscreensaver and press enter13:27
xubuntu310but now why can't I lock my screen now13:27
huggy-bearbecause xscreensaver is not running13:28
Sysibecause the app doing locking is dead13:28
huggy-bearrun it again and try again13:28
recon_lapxubuntu310:   /var/log/message13:28
huggy-bearyou might also have to log out and log in again13:28
xubuntu310xscreensaver gave me the splash screen and I clicked settings13:29
xubuntu310 does not exist -> /var/log/message13:30
huggy-bearxubuntu310: now try suspending13:30
xubuntu310ps -A | grep xscreen 15670 pts/1    00:00:00 xscreensaver-de 15776 pts/1    00:00:00 xscreensaver13:30
huggy-bearsorry, locking13:30
huggy-beargreat, it's running13:30
xubuntu310I restarted the daemon13:31
xubuntu310and now my menu item to lock the screen works....I just locked and unlocked from the menu13:32
xubuntu310so the deamon is crashing13:32
Sysiyou could remove xscreensaver and use gnome-screensaver13:32
xubuntu310sysi -> I've read a number of threads that say that's a bad idea13:33
xubuntu310I'm avoiding gnome.....in favor of xfce13:34
Sysixubuntu310: I haven't heard such, was there some specific reason?13:34
xubuntu310just avoiding the gnome libs13:36
xubuntu310xscreen-save man page has this:  -no-capture-stderr                Do  not redirect the stdout and stderr streams to the xscreensaver window itself.  If xscreensaver is crashing, you might need                to do this in order to see the error message.13:36
huggy-bearyou might try this13:37
xubuntu310and a -log setting13:37
xubuntu310but where do I make those settings in my .xscreensaver file13:37
xubuntu310I'm a bit shocked the demon is crashing it looks like *nothing* is getting logged anywhere that the crash happened13:38
huggy-bearxubuntu310: you could just disable the screensaver in the autostart settings and add a new one that just starts this custom command13:39
huggy-beartry it out for a few days, if it isn't to your liking, i suggest using some of the alternative screen lock tools13:40
huggy-bearxubuntu310: there is a nice tool that may not work with xfce's lock menu, but you can make a launcher on the panel for it easily. it's called xtrlock. it only shows a little padlock that vanishes once you enter your user password13:40
huggy-bearit's super small, too13:40
xubuntu310what are my alternatives....and what custom command are you referring to13:41
xubuntu310maybe I missed a post13:41
xubuntu310.13:41
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Picixubuntu310: stop that.13:41
knomexubuntu310, stop doing that.13:41
xubuntu310sorry....wanted to make sure I could see the response and not get lost13:42
xubuntu310my main concern is that the menu option for "lock screen" in the logout menu is what I use to lock the screen13:43
xubuntu310and that once I lock my screen, if it crashes, I get a log someplace to help me understand what caused the crash so I can fix it.13:43
xubuntu310so i deleted .xscreensaver13:46
huggy-bearxubuntu310: wait, i found the answer as to how to change the setting13:47
huggy-bearyou can do it in .xscreensaver13:47
xubuntu310and recreated it by launching the demo and picking a screensaver13:47
xubuntu310yes.....I need to make those two settings13:48
huggy-bearxubuntu310: change "captureStderr:  True"  to "captureStderr:  False"13:48
xubuntu310ok13:48
xubuntu310done13:48
huggy-bearnow just close xscreensaver (killall xscreensaver) and start it again13:48
huggy-bearthen experiment13:49
xubuntu310don't I need to set the log setting?13:49
huggy-bearwait, what log setting?13:49
xubuntu310man xscreensaver13:49
huggy-bearthere is just that one setting. let me see...13:49
xubuntu310->   -no-capture-stderr13:49
huggy-bearyep13:50
xubuntu310---->   -log filename                This  is  exactly  the same as redirecting stdout and stderr to                the given file (for append).  This  is  useful  when  reporting                bugs.13:50
huggy-bearor, in the settings file, it's the one i told you to change13:50
xubuntu310yes, "captureStderr:  False"13:50
xubuntu310if I don't set -log then where is the stderr gonna end up......someplace in /var???13:51
huggy-beareither: /var/log/messages  or another X log13:51
xubuntu310my understanding was I can set log = ~/.xscreensaver.log13:51
xubuntu310well, /var/log/messages doesn't exist....which is another issue13:52
huggy-bearstrange13:52
huggy-bearoh, it does, it's just locked to administrators13:53
huggy-bearsudoe less /var/log/messages13:53
huggy-bearsudo less /var/log/messages13:53
xubuntu310jberk@jberk-linux:~$ sudo less /var/log/messages [sudo] password for jberk:  /var/log/messages: No such file or directory13:53
huggy-bearwow, really?13:53
xubuntu310yeah....fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 x6413:54
huggy-bearI see it here, too.13:54
huggy-bearso odd13:54
Mathiasmaybe your /var/log got robbed?13:54
xubuntu310robbed?13:54
huggy-bearMathias: mine is missing, too. on xubuntu 12.1013:54
huggy-bearxubuntu310: it doesn't matter. let's just change the xscreensaver launcher to include logging.13:55
huggy-bearlet me google if it can be done through the settings file13:55
xubuntu310I am on 12.10 I think.....13:55
xubuntu310nope...12.0413:56
xubuntu310dvd right in front of me13:56
huggy-bearxubuntu310: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/bugs.html13:56
xubuntu310jberk@jberk-linux:/var/log$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release:12.04 Codename:precise13:56
huggy-bearinstructions on how to report bugs13:56
huggy-bearxubuntu310: although i would rather suggest going through ubuntu's bug report methods13:57
knomeubuntu-bug xscreensaver13:58
xubuntu310but still.....what setting should go into the .xscreensaver to capture the crash to a specified log file13:59
huggy-bearxubuntu310: i would suggest you change the command in the autostart14:01
xubuntu310should I be saving this "xscreensaver-command -exit; xscreensaver -verbose -log log.txt" to a bash file on the desktop?14:01
huggy-bearnope14:01
huggy-bearopen the Settings Manager14:01
huggy-bearunder system, choose Session and Startup14:02
huggy-bearthen choose the Application Autostart tab14:02
huggy-beardisable Screensaver, then proceed to make a new launcher by clicking "Add"14:03
huggy-bearyou will see the Command option where you can add: xscreensaver -verbose -log log.txt14:03
huggy-bearchoose something more descriptive than log.txt14:03
huggy-bearmaybe xscreensaver-log.txt14:04
xubuntu310sure.....I'll set it up right now14:05
xubuntu310then log out and back in?14:05
huggy-bearyep14:06
xubuntu310there is no "screen saver" in the application Autostart list14:06
huggy-bearsomething similar?14:06
xubuntu310bluetooth14:07
huggy-bearnope14:07
xubuntu310xfce settings helper14:07
xubuntu310power manager14:07
huggy-bearhmm14:07
xubuntu310print queue14:07
xubuntu310xfce volume daemon14:08
xubuntu310new hardware14:08
knomeplease stop that14:08
huggy-bearthen i guess the power manager starts the screensaver14:08
xubuntu310pulseAudio14:08
knome!pastebin | huggy-bear14:08
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knomehuggy-bear, sorry, in a caffeine rush :)14:08
xubuntu310NVIDIA x server14:08
huggy-bearknome: i am not the one posting it :P14:08
huggy-bearok, let me google a bit14:09
xubuntu310the nvidia x server settings or the power manager (but teh power manager is disabled014:09
huggy-bearxubuntu310: i rather meant xfce's power manager.14:11
xubuntu310yeah, it's disabled14:12
huggy-bearsorry, i've got nothing...14:13
xubuntu310basically, I want to make the "log" setting in .xscreensaver file14:13
huggy-bearlooking in the man page...14:13
huggy-beari know :)14:13
huggy-beari have it! :)14:13
huggy-bearwe can do that via .Xdefaults14:13
xubuntu310and if I don't / can't make it, but changed stderr setting, I need to know where the logs would end up14:14
huggy-bearok, open .Xdefaults in your home folder or create one and add this line:  xscreensaver.verbose: True14:17
xubuntu310ok, there are all sorts of settings in that file for xscreensaver.....mostly colors14:17
huggy-beari am still looking for the log file...14:17
xubuntu310added this: xscreensaver.verbose: True xscreensaver.log: ~/.xscreensaver.log14:19
huggy-bearwow14:19
huggy-bearmaybe it will work14:19
huggy-bearthe man page does not mention the resource xscreensaver.log, but who knows...14:19
huggy-beartry it out14:20
xubuntu310ok...I'll roll with that for a while and next time it crashes we'll see where my output ends up14:20
xubuntu310if anywhere14:20
xubuntu310thanks for all the help14:20
huggy-bearnp14:20
xubuntu310xscreensaver.log is just a filename14:20
xubuntu310xscreensaver.log is the setting....just like xscreensaver.verbose14:21
huggy-bearit is, but if the option xscreensaver.log doesn't exist, then it won't work14:21
huggy-bearbut maybe it will resort to creating a default filename14:21
huggy-bearwho knows...14:21
xubuntu310yeah....all I can do is wait now....14:22
xubuntu310I'll do my system updates and reboot14:22
xubuntu310thanks again14:22
huggy-bearu r welcome14:22
xubuntu310btw, how do I get to pick a handle....14:22
xubuntu310do I need to register online someplace14:22
recon_lapxubuntu310:  use /help to get irc commands, /nick to set a user name14:23
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jberkok14:24
jberkthanks14:24
huggy-bearxubuntu679: if you don't want others to take your nick, then you have to register it14:24
jberkgood bye and thanks for the help14:24
huggy-bearsorry, wrong person :D14:24
huggy-bearok, bye14:24
Aerlishello14:31
Aerlisi'm novice14:31
Aerlisnewbie*14:31
recon_lap!hi | Aerlis14:31
ubottuAerlis: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!14:31
Aerliscan somebody help me at my exploring Ubuntu?14:32
Aerlisi'm sorry for my English14:33
Aerlisit's not my first language14:33
apm1is it possible to turn a laptop running xubuntu into a wifi hotspot ?14:33
apm1i am willing to install anything from the 12.04 repos :)14:34
recon_lapAerlis: you might want to try #xubuntu-offtopic as well, probably more suitable14:34
Aerlisrecon_lap: thank you14:35
apm1i am trying to do a debian netinstall on another one of my laptops , but for that i will need a wifi or ethernet connection so , turning one of the laptops into a wifi hotspot might just work :)14:36
recon_lapapm1: why not get a cheap router?14:36
apm1recon_lap, because all i have is mobile broadband connectivity14:37
huggy-bearapm1: i think getting a cheap wireless router might save more energy in the long run. look on ebay, there are quite cheap ones as well. sometimes the providers also have packages where you can get one for free if you promise to stay a client for a longer time, etc.14:39
recon_lapapm1: you can do this, something to do with ad-hoc mode. think it might depend on the wireless card you got14:40
apm1huggy-bear, look i just need to do a netinstall once , so buying anything is wastage14:40
huggy-bearah ok :) ad-hoc mode then14:41
huggy-bearapm1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc14:41
recon_laphuggy-bear: most cheap wireless routers dont work with mobile internet14:43
BitPuffinHey!15:15
BitPuffinWhen will 12.10 be released? :)15:15
zodiakit's out already.. jst look at most mirrors15:17
BitPuffinThe real one? Not RC?15:17
zodiakyah15:17
BitPuffinI don't see it :O15:18
zodiakagain, any mirror and look at the releases directory15:18
recon_laplambs running to the bleeding edge =-O15:18
BitPuffinAh there it is15:18
zodiakthe official announcement can't make it until AFTER ubuntu announces it officially15:18
BitPuffinsome mirrors don't have it haha15:18
zodiakall the canadian ones do15:18
zodiakcanada +1 ;P15:18
BitPuffinwell15:19
BitPuffinUK has it15:19
BitPuffinbut not both UK15:19
zodiakyour problem is probably sweden, I advise you moving away from mooses ;P15:19
BitPuffinlol15:19
huggy-bearnow i'm not cool any more, have to upgrade to raring :)15:19
zodiak(although I know that's finland but.. meh)15:19
BitPuffinDidn't even notice that there's a Swedish mirror?15:19
baizonuse the torrent15:29
BitPuffinExciting :)15:48
BitPuffinBut is there even anything new? haha15:48
baizonof course15:49
baizonxfce 4.1015:49
BitPuffinexcept wallapapers15:49
baizonits a big step for xfce15:49
BitPuffinWell15:49
baizonnew appfinder15:49
baizontiliing15:49
BitPuffinwhat does 12.04 run?15:49
baizonxfce 4.815:49
BitPuffinoh15:49
BitPuffinwell damn15:49
BitPuffinSweet!15:49
BitPuffinTime to install it then, brb!15:49
baizon:)15:49
apm1guys how do i do this on xfce ? http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/16:14
seednodeOne momeny, reading the article.16:15
seednodemoment*16:15
baizonapm1: starting with this image16:15
baizonhttp://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/image170.png16:15
baizonright click on network16:15
baizonand edit connections16:15
apm1ok16:16
apm1baizon, thanks man you just saved my day :)16:16
seednodeWait, there's something I don't understand about that article.16:16
seednodeSince running a hotspot requires using the NIC to do so, wouldn't you need to cards to provide internet across the hotspot?16:16
seednodetwo*16:16
baizonapm1: or here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37696/how-to-set-ubuntu-as-wireless-accespoint-in-the-gui-way16:16
baizoneven with screenshots :)16:17
seednodebaizon: So, would you need two wifi cards, or can it be done with one?16:17
baizonone16:18
seednodeHm...16:18
seednodeHow would that work?16:18
apm1baizon, thank you so much :)16:18
baizonseednode: set your wifi card to adhoc as a accespoint16:19
baizonand connect with WAN using the wired card16:20
seednodeYes, but if it's in ad hoc, where will I be getting an internet connection from?16:20
seednodeOh, you'd need wired.16:20
seednodeSee, that's why I was asking.16:20
baizonof course :)16:20
seednodeSee, I knew that was possible.16:20
baizonor you get a second wifi card for the wan connection16:20
baizon:)16:20
seednodeAlright, makes sense then.16:20
seednodeWell, my laptop has dual cards.16:21
baizonor that :)16:21
apm1or you could use a mobile broadband connection like me16:21
seednodeLike, WWAN?16:21
seednodeOR 3G/4G/etc?16:21
apm1i am using a 3g modem for this16:22
seednodeAh.16:22
apm1hey can someone help me write a shell script to be executed on each startup ?16:23
apm1it just has to run 2 commands16:23
baizonapm1: which one?16:23
apm1i have never written a script before so basically you will have to tell me what i have to do16:23
baizonwhich two commands?16:24
apm1baizon, these http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287208/16:26
baizonapm1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287213/16:27
baizonthats all16:27
apm1yup16:28
baizonsave as myscrip.sh, then chmod +x myscript.sh. Thats all16:28
baizonapm1: then add it to session and startup in xfce :)16:29
apm1sav where ?16:29
apm1*save where ?16:29
baizonwhere you want :)16:29
apm1baizon, i am doing it on debian not xubuntu16:29
baizondebian with xfce?16:29
apm1no gnome216:30
apm1will startup apps in settings the same thing ?16:30
baizonyes16:30
baizonadd there your script and its done16:31
apm1ok and is  "chmod +x myscript.sh." a command ?16:31
baizonyes16:32
apm1ok then doing it16:32
livingdaylightwas wondering why xfce is a popular alternative to unity and gnome shell even?16:34
apm1baizon, says no such directory16:34
baizonlivingdaylight: its a xubuntu-offtopic thing ;)16:34
baizonapm1: ?16:35
baizonin what case?16:35
apm1baizon, chmod: cannot access `bg.sh': No such file or directory16:35
baizonapm1: well sudo might help ;)16:35
apm1i ran as sudo16:36
baizonwhat output do you get with ls ?16:36
baizonis the bg.sh listened?16:36
apm1no16:37
ANDwlkpwhere can i find the official version of xubuntu 12.10?16:37
baizonwell then thats the reason you get the error16:37
apm1you should have told me to "cd"16:37
baizonANDwlkp: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/16:37
knomeit is not out yet.16:38
baizonknome: ou then sorry16:38
sevs44936hi, i have a small problem moving my /home onto another partition16:40
sevs44936created a new partition on lvm, edited fstab, moved files and rebooted16:41
xGrindANDwlkp, http://hex1a4.net/xubuntu/mirror/releases/12.10/release/16:41
ANDwlkpbaizon: why in xubuntu.org is only link to Introducing Xubuntu 12.10 Beta 2 ?16:41
sevs44936when i try to log in, the screen goes black and returns to the login screen16:42
baizonANDwlkp: it isnt officially released, please be patient16:42
knomexGrind, it is not out yet, so please do not spread the link.16:42
sevs44936any idea?16:42
knomeANDwlkp, we will post a release announcement on the site when it's officially out :)16:42
ANDwlkpknome: when it's officially out ?16:44
ANDwlkpwikipedia.com say it's today16:45
knomeANDwlkp, when it's ready. there is no official time set, but it will be "today" UTC16:45
xubuntu115hello, i cannot get any gui. i am getting fatal server error, no screens found17:03
xubuntu115i have uninstalled and reinstalled xserver17:04
baizonxubuntu115: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167000/xorg-server-configuration-fail-no-screens-detected17:04
xubuntu115baizon: tried that link17:04
baizonbackup xorg.conf17:05
baizonnvidia?17:05
baizoncheck /var/log/X.log for errors17:05
xubuntu115no, intel intergrated gfx17:05
xubuntu115works fine on xubuntu 12.04/linux mint xfce 13, but doesn't work on xubuntu 12.10 beta 217:06
baizonwhat error msg do you get?17:08
baizonyou have to check the log17:08
xubuntu115screens found, but none have a usable configuration?17:08
xubuntu115failed to detect gem, kernel 2.6.28 required. failed to become drm master. screens found but none have a usable connectgion. no screens found.17:09
xubuntu115those are all the ee17:09
baizonwhat intel graphics card do you have?17:10
xubuntu115its intergrated, n2600 atom processor17:10
xubuntu115gma 500 or 300 i think17:11
xubuntu115intel gma 3600 sorry even17:12
epzil0nanyone knows why xubuntu 12.10 isn't out yet?17:16
baizonepzil0n: patients17:17
baizonpatiences17:18
epzil0n:)17:18
baizonwill be out soon17:18
SkippersBosseuh ?? what m a getting from a mirror then17:18
raminaaaaaaaany second now :D17:18
xubuntu115baizon: any ideas then ?17:18
SkippersBossknome says it there17:18
epzil0ngreat, i'm currently running the beta release and really like it :)17:18
knomeit's out17:18
knomerelease announcement mail is out17:18
ramintorrent all the things17:19
baizonepzil0n: see17:19
epzil0nhehe17:19
baizonxubuntu115: no sorry, never had an intel gpu :(17:19
xubuntu115ok thanks anyway17:19
baizonnp17:20
epzil0nnice, got to download it :P17:20
babaeiI'm seeing the upgrade from a mirror now.17:20
xubuntu115baizon: i'm following a long a post for precise, but obviously using quantal. when running apt-get update, its trying to access from /quantal/main/sources, but should be /precise/main/sources17:21
xubuntu115can i change this17:21
apm1baizon, the scrip works thanks a lot :)17:23
xubuntu115where do custom ppa's go when added from terminal ?17:23
xubuntu115i need to change the url of one manually17:23
apm1*script17:23
baizonxubuntu115: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine17:24
baizonapm1: nice to hear17:24
baizonxubuntu115: they are in the source.list.d directory17:24
xubuntu115i only see sources.list.5.gz and when opened in nano, is all rubbish characters17:27
xubuntu115i just need to change one link, it's not in /etc/apt/sources.list17:27
baizonwhat is inside /etc/apt17:28
=== knome changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Xubuntu support | Xubuntu 12.10 is out! Download from http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | No one around? See the complete support methods list at http://xubuntu.org/help | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic
xubuntu115baizon: legend :) sorry im only 6 months in to linux!17:30
baizonnp xubuntu11517:33
Unit193knome: Figured you{d want to.17:35
=== RaringOne is now known as IdleOne
knomeUnit193, oh, whatever works. :) i almost forgot...17:36
NivexHey folks. Got the Xubuntu 12.10 image down on torrent, installed in a VM. I try to log in at the LightDM prompt, it accepts my password, then drops me right back to the login17:36
NivexI noticed it did this after I apt-get upgraded from beta2, but I figured it was just something with the upgrade so I didn't poke any further17:37
baizonNivex: create new user and try then17:37
koegshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/992579 :(17:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 992579 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "XFCE4: Hotkey for "Maximize Window" ignored, Application Hotkeys delayed" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:38
Nivexbaizon: this is a _fresh_ install17:39
xubuntu115i now need this, xorg-video-abi-11.deb, which is a part of xserver-xorg-core apparently, but i cannot install it. i need a .deb somewhere17:41
Nivexbaizon: added new user as you suggested. same symptoms: authentication succeeds but after a brief delay get thrown back to the login screen17:42
baizoncheck log :)17:43
Nivexwhich one? I'm flipping through /var/log/lightdm/*.log now trying to find something useful and coming up nil17:44
Nivexohh, eww. the X server is terminating with signal 6 SIGABRT17:45
baizonwhat graphics card do you have17:46
baizon?17:46
NivexIt's a KVM guest, so cirrus logic17:47
xubuntu115meh, back to linux mint 13 xfce i guess...17:48
GridCubewhy?17:48
Marzathacommunity, thank you for Xubu 12.10!17:48
Nivexbam, switched it to vmvga and I can log in now17:48
Nivexthat is bizarre17:48
baizonGridCube: hes intel graphics cards isnt working17:49
GridCubeoh17:49
GridCubegeneric isnt working?17:49
baizoni have no idea, dont use(d) intel hardware17:50
xubuntu796Hello, error in your torrent links, it is quantal, not precise17:56
xubuntu796For Xubuntu 12.1017:56
baizonxubuntu796: your sure?17:58
xubuntu796Anyone here ? Or else do you know how I can contact the webmaster ?17:58
xubuntu796Yes, try it17:58
xubuntu796http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent17:58
baizoni get Not Found17:58
xubuntu796and17:58
xubuntu796http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent17:58
xubuntu796Normal, it is not precise, but quantal17:58
xubuntu796in the url17:59
baizoni get its not available17:59
toraxnot found17:59
xubuntu796Normal, it should be :17:59
xubuntu796http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent17:59
xubuntu796and17:59
xubuntu796http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent18:00
toraxhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/18:00
xubuntu796So how can I contact the webmaster so he can fix this little mistake ?18:00
knomexubuntu796, thanks, refresh the page: updated18:00
knomexubuntu796, you just did18:00
xubuntu796Ok18:00
xubuntu796Good for Xubuntu users who don't know how to fix this little mistake :)18:01
knomeyep18:01
knomethanks for reporting18:01
xubuntu796Normal, it's not big, but I can do it, so....18:02
xubuntu796Have a nice evening (in France it is evening :P)18:02
xubuntu796Bye :)18:02
decciI need to create Xubuntu live cd with mkahawa (http://www.mkahawa.net). I am in verse to build two sets of live cd, one for the server and another for the client. On the Server Live Cd : 1.)Webmin 2.)Mkahawa Server  3.)Gofris 4.)Wine18:03
decciMay I know how shall I start?18:03
decciI read about uck18:05
decciI need to create Xubuntu live cd with mkahawa (http://www.mkahawa.net). I am in verse to build two sets of live cd, one for the server and another for the client. On the Server Live Cd : 1.)Webmin 2.)Mkahawa Server  3.)Gofris 4.)Wine18:16
ramincan someone help me with this vb issue? http://i.imgur.com/ZfSCt.png18:18
baizonramin: disable the VT-x feature18:22
baizonits a intel only feature18:22
deccibaizon: Can you help me with this?18:25
baizondecci: no sorry :(18:25
baizoni have no idea18:25
raminthanks18:27
baizonthank me if it works ;)18:27
xubuntu872df18:28
xubuntu872hello18:28
xubuntu872how can i update from xubuntu 12.04 to 12.10?18:28
baizon!hi | xubuntu87218:28
ubottuxubuntu872: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!18:28
baizonxubuntu872: run "update-manager -d"18:29
xubuntu872ok thx18:29
* epzil0n is running 12.10 and it's really nice <318:32
=== figg3_ is now known as figg3
XRS1Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported19:49
hickopHi, just installed xubuntu into a qemu virtual machine but I cannot get past the display manager, I set it to automatically login but I always get back to login, any idea plz ?19:53
recon_laphickop: have you tried setting nomodeset in the boot cmd19:54
recon_laphickop: might be somthing else though, have you look at the logs19:55
hickophow can I set boot cmd ?19:56
hickopor even drop to a tty so i can get to the logs ?19:56
recon_laphickop: ctrl-shift-f2 to get tty19:57
recon_laphickop: ctrl-shift-f7 to get back19:57
hickopdoesnt work for me19:58
recon_laphickop: or press shift while it's booting to get boot menu19:58
Sysiif one gets to login screen, graphics problems shouldn't prevent logging19:59
hickoplooks like my qemu doesnt capture my shift key20:00
hickopmore a qemu problem I guess , sorry20:01
recon_laphickop: can you view the files outside the VM20:01
hickopshould try with a raw image then20:02
hickopi made it qcow2 format20:02
recon_laphickop: know nothing about qemu20:03
hickopI remember xubuntu 12.04 worked but it could be a qemu update that broke something20:04
number1235has anyone had their sudo do-release-upgrade turn up 12.10 yet? Sorry I'm sure this has been asked already.20:04
XRS1i never managed to break 12.04 without it being myfaultretarded20:05
Sysinumber1235: because 12.04 is LTS you need to use -d lever to get it to show 12.1020:05
number1235Sysi: Well then thank you! My first time upgrading from an LTS20:06
number1235Time to go do that...20:08
majszarunning remix Xubuntu 12.10 (live cd, instalation):21:11
majszaKopiowanie 31 plików z 9321:11
majszacoś niewłaściwego stało się przy tłumaczeniu "pl.archive.ubuntu.com:http" (-5  - Brak adresu związanego z nazwą hosta)21:11
majszaBłąd http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates Release.gpg21:12
knome!pl | majsza21:12
ubottumajsza: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:12
majszaskip and installation moved on21:16
livingdaylightubuntu software center isn't letting me install java. it crashed21:20
Unit193Try the apt-get command.21:20
livingdaylightwhat is the command line, please, sudo apt-get openjdk7 -??21:20
Unit193!apt21:21
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)21:21
Unit193Missed install in there, and whatever the package name is.21:21
livingdaylightyea21:21
livingdaylight!java21:22
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:22
alphalupiI'm having problems installing 12.10. I want to use encryption & LVM, but I need 2 encrypted volumes and the partitioner does not seem to like this.21:23
alphalupiAny advice?21:26
recon_lapalphalupi: create an extended partition then you can make upto 254 sub partitions on that21:27
alphalupiIt's across 2 disks.21:27
recon_lapalphalupi: sry, did not that was the problem21:28
alphalupiThat's OK. Any other ideas?21:28
Sysiyou maybe could try mini.iso and installing xubuntu-desktop on top of it21:29
alphalupiI don't know what mini.iso is21:30
Sysi!mini21:30
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:30
Sysitext-based installer, probaby better with lvm21:30
alphalupiI think the partitioner is common to all the install disks isn't it?21:30
alphalupiAlso I think I just got it.21:30
Sysino, GUI partitioner is different than text one AFAIK21:31
alphalupiWish me luck, I think I figured it out and am about to commit.21:31
alphalupiNope, didn't work.21:32
alphalupiMaking another go of it.21:37
alphalupiIs there a difference in installing the bootloader in /dev/sda vs. /dev/sda1 ? especially if /dev/sda1 is mounted /boot ?21:41
fluvvellI've just changed graphics cards, but forgotten what to do to reconfigure xubuntu without manually editing xorg.conf file - hints please?21:41
fluvvellit doesn't seem to be running the nvidia driver, even though jockey says its activated (but not in use)21:43
Sysialphalupi: unless you have uefi system, use sda21:43
fluvvellalphalupi, drives boot from the boot sector of the physical drive, so bootloader should go there.21:43
alphalupisysi: thanks21:44
alphalupifluvvell: thanks21:44
fluvvellalphalupi, using grub ?21:45
alphalupiI'm still stuck in the partitioner21:46
Sysifluvvell: if you have nvidia driver installed, adding nomodeset should prevent opensource driver from being loaded and nvidia driver to be used21:46
Sysinomodeset in grub conf21:46
fluvvellok cheers Sysi I'll whip in and edit that now.21:46
Sysiif you end up with aful resolution, try generating xorg.conf with nvidia tool if other options in it don't work21:47
alphalupiIs there a known bug in 12.10 that prevents 2 encrypted partitions from existing?21:55
bigcalmHi :) Just upgraded my laptop to 12.10 and the display doesn't appear to be using restricted ATI drivers any more. I've tried running jockey, but it can't find any drivers to install. Anybody got any pointers?21:57
fluvvellSysi, is there a comma separator or just spaces?22:27
XRS1mounting USB thumbdrive from desktop icon: "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported." *OR* "The given volume was not found."22:31
XRS1http://pastebin.com/zWPHPVLy22:31
xubuntu051hi22:43
XRS1hi22:43
xubuntu051I'm looking forward to upgrading to 12.10 :)22:44
XRS1its nice22:44
xubuntu051the release notes said that the messaging indicator doesn't work or something? do you  know what this is about?22:45
bluesabrexubuntu051: Basically, the latest changes to the messaging indicator code made it exclusively for GTK+3.  Xubuntu is powered by Xfce, which is GTK+2 and doesn't support GTK+3 widgets in the panel.22:46
xubuntu051ahh I see, thanks for explaining that :)22:47
bluesabreSure, no problem.  Hopefully we'll have a GTK+3 panel in 13.04 and can look forward to a formal return of the messaging indicator :)22:49
xubuntu051hehe :)22:49
XRS1hmm... sucky22:50
xubuntu051I currently use Popper to notify me about new emails, do you  know if that would work without the message indicator?22:50
* SkippersBoss cant get dvb stick to work.22:51
bluesabrexubuntu051: I can't say for sure, but it looks like it might depend on the indicator22:52
SkippersBossJockey used to find it straight away22:52
xubuntu051do you use a mail notifier in Xubuntu? what do you find best?22:54
xubuntu051thanks for your help guys23:02
SkippersBossGuys problem. removal of Jockey means my DVB adaptor is no longer recognised.23:11
SkippersBosslooks like i will be returning to 12.04 if this cannot be solved23:11
SkippersBossanyone any suggestions23:11
GridCubewhat is a dvb?23:13
bluesabreSkippersBoss, any luck in Settings Manager > Software Sources > Additional Drivers?23:16
SkippersBossNOPe empty23:16
bluesabre:\23:17
SkippersBossJockey would find him easily23:17
holsteini would do the normal stuff. lscpi or lsusb... see if the device is recongnized23:17
SkippersBossBus 001 Device 010: ID 15a4:9016 Afatech Technologies, Inc. AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick23:19
SkippersBossi say yes23:19
GridCube!info gnome-dvb-daemon23:22
ubottugnome-dvb-daemon (source: gnome-dvb-daemon): daemon to setup your DVB devices, record and watch TV shows and browse EPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.2.9-1 (quantal), package size 233 kB, installed size 738 kB23:22
SkippersBossit would still need to detect the hardware first23:24
GridCubeits detected23:25
GridCubeyou just pasted the thingy23:25
SkippersBossIt's coming to something that I have to install jockey-kde to get my dvb-T thing recognised23:52
SkippersBossSoftware centre sources was oblivious23:52
Unit193SkippersBoss: Some sort of Software Sources is where they are hiding it.23:53
SkippersBossThat is still empty23:53

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