[02:06] <xubuntu338> O hai
[05:05] <hai> 你好
[05:07] <Unit193> !cn | hai
[05:08] <hai> ok!
[06:31] <gry> How is it possible to set lightdm to prompt for username?
[08:49] <Elesa> Hi, how do I remove the shadows under the Desktop icons? Also, how can I set up the dekstop to show full file names instead of just a part and then ...?
[08:59] <gry> Hello.
[08:59] <gry> How can I help you, xubuntu341?
[09:00] <baizon> =)
[11:31] <kkkjjjuuu> hello, world
[11:31] <kkkjjjuuu> help me pls
[11:31] <Mathias> only a small part of the world is here :P
[11:31] <baizon> !hi | kkkjjjuuu
[11:33] <baizon> kkkjjjuuu: whats the problem?
[11:33] <kkkjjjuuu> i can't to conigure microphon on xubuntu 12.04 netbook msi u100
[11:34] <baizon> kkkjjjuuu: have you tried with pavucontrol?
[11:34] <kkkjjjuuu> I'm used alsaconfig
[11:36] <baizon> kkkjjjuuu: try pavucontrol ;)
[11:36] <kkkjjjuuu> thx, trying
[11:38] <kkkjjjuuu> well, I'm using pavucontrol
[11:39] <kkkjjjuuu> not work
[11:39] <baizon> is the microphone showing up?
[11:42] <kkkjjjuuu> is the background sound of the noise, but when I speak into the microphone, nothing happens
[11:42] <kkkjjjuuu> а есть кто по русски умеет говорить?
[11:42] <baizon> maybe you got the wrong input
[11:42] <baizon> !ru
[11:43] <kkkjjjuuu> thx
[11:44] <baizon> np
[12:05] <Ady23> hello
[12:06] <recon_lap> !hi | Ady23
[12:06] <Ady23> when will the final release of xubuntu will be available for dwonload?
[12:07] <baizon> Ady23: in the next 24h
[12:07] <Ady23> well on wikipedia it says it will be launched on 18 october
[12:08] <Ady23> is'nt today 18 october?
[12:08] <baizon> it is
[12:08] <recon_lap> Ady23:  never is a final release , then come every 6 months :) . I personally never in a hurry to upgrade
[12:08] <Ady23> yesterday i bougjt an asus eepc and i wanna try xubuntu on it
[12:08] <Ady23> i waited for the final release
[12:09] <baizon> Ady23: it will be released on 18'th of october but US time ;)
[12:09] <Ady23> and i thought today i will download it..
[12:09] <baizon> you can download it today
[12:09] <Ady23> us time...
[12:09] <Ady23> that means tomorow
[12:09] <Ady23> right?
[12:09] <recon_lap> Ady23: I'd suggest try with 12.04.1 or wait a couple of days and you can try 12.10
[12:09] <baizon> yep
[12:10] <Ady23> another question
[12:10] <recon_lap> Ady23: do you have a USB flash drive?
[12:10] <Ady23> cand i play videos on my asus eepc trough hdmi interface?
[12:10] <baizon> Ady23: what eeepc do you have?
[12:11] <baizon> Ady23: i can do it with xubuntu 12.10, with 12.04 hdmi sound isnt working on the open source drivers
[12:11] <Sysi> unless it has weird nvidia hybrid gpu, you should be able to
[12:11] <Ady23> Asus 1015BX
[12:11] <baizon> Ady23: i recommend 12.10, because of the 3.5 kernel
[12:11] <Ady23> it has apu
[12:11] <baizon> hdmi will work fine with it
[12:11] <Ady23> amd c60
[12:12] <Ady23> and radeon 6290
[12:12] <baizon> yes i know
[12:12] <Ady23> will it work?
[12:12] <baizon> with 12.10 yes
[12:12] <Sysi> baizon: aren't proprietary drivers much more power-efficient?
[12:12] <baizon> im using xubuntu and hdmi
[12:12] <recon_lap> Ady23: you should be able to play movies , I'v got a good link for you  https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[12:12] <baizon> Sysi: well i think yes, but multi-monitor support is awefull
[12:12] <baizon> oss drivers are much better
[12:13] <Sysi> baizon: doesn't ati have on setup tool for that?
[12:13] <baizon> yes, but its hard to use
[12:13] <baizon> aticonfig
[12:13] <Ady23> so i jus plug in and works no other settings neded?
[12:13] <baizon> but i got problems with graphics and refresh rate
[12:13] <baizon> Ady23: with 12.10 yes
[12:13] <Ady23> i'm a beginer on linux
[12:14] <baizon> with 12.04 you need the proprietary drivers
[12:14] <baizon> then everything will work aswell
[12:14] <Ady23> and you recomend me to instal propietary drivers or to leave it without it?
[12:14] <baizon> you can test both
[12:15] <baizon> i dont use it
[12:15] <baizon> they were to unstable for me
[12:15] <baizon> and i need fast and easy multi-monitor support
[12:15] <baizon> with arandr its very easy
[12:15] <baizon> but you can test both like i said :)
[12:15] <baizon> thats my personal opinion
[12:16] <Ady23> ok i got it
[12:16] <Ady23> but i read ati drivers are'nt very well suported on linux?
[12:16] <Ady23> is that true?
[12:16] <baizon> well they are ok
[12:16] <baizon> for games and hdmi
[12:17] <baizon> but when it comes to multi-monitor, they arent so good imo
[12:17] <recon_lap> Ady23: general rule is if it brand new it tends not to be supported well
[12:17] <koegs> i had no problems with a ati 7950, three monitors and xubuntu :)
[12:17] <koegs> proprietary drivers from ati.com of course
[12:17] <baizon> koegs: with the proprietary?
[12:18] <baizon> how did you solved it?
[12:18] <baizon> i mean, how did you set it up?
[12:18] <koegs> with amdcccle :)
[12:18] <baizon> well for me it wasnt working at all
[12:19] <baizon> koegs: did you use xinerama?
[12:19] <koegs> amdcccle had some problems with segfaults, but if it di not segfault, there was no problem setting up the monitors
[12:20] <baizon> hmm
[12:20] <koegs> xubuntu still has no tool to setup a system-wide proxy, right?
[12:20] <baizon> maybe ill test it
[12:20] <baizon> koegs: i think no
[12:21] <koegs> so apt.conf and /etc/profile it is :)
[12:22] <recon_lap> Ady23: anyway, you should create a live USB, that is installing xubuntu onto a USB stick and booting from that, lets you see if you are going to have any issues before you install anything on you eepc .
[12:31] <recon_lap> Ady23: use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows but use the xubuntu ISO instead of the ubuntu one
[13:11] <xubuntu310> hello?
[13:11] <huggy-bear> hello?
[13:11] <huggy-bear> :)
[13:11] <xubuntu310> I am looking for help with xubuntu and the screen lock
[13:11] <huggy-bear> what is the problem?
[13:11] <xubuntu310> when I lock my screen and go home for the day
[13:12] <xubuntu310> and come back the next....my PC is unlocked.....
[13:12] <xubuntu310> the screen lock is crashing, and leaving my PC unlocked
[13:12] <xubuntu310> which is a real deal breaker for me.....
[13:12] <huggy-bear> on 12.04?
[13:12] <xubuntu310> yes
[13:13] <xubuntu310> happened last night (or early this morning)
[13:13] <xubuntu310> so today, when I got to work, my PC was wide open
[13:13] <huggy-bear> that is rather strange.
[13:13] <huggy-bear> let me check something
[13:13] <xubuntu679> will xubuntu ship with xfce 4.10 and kernel 3.5 ?
[13:13] <recon_lap> xubuntu310: wide open?
[13:14] <xubuntu310> unlocked....anybody could have sat there and used my PC
[13:14] <xubuntu310> if I go to the log out menu and attempt to lock my PC again, nothing happens
[13:15] <xubuntu310> xscreensaver 5.15
[13:15] <recon_lap> xubuntu310: running xubuntu? check for usb keys ?
[13:16] <xubuntu310> like flash drives?
[13:16] <huggy-bear> 310, yeah
[13:16] <xubuntu310> keyboard and mouse are usb....that's it
[13:17] <xubuntu310> no drives plugged in
[13:17] <huggy-bear> I would also suggest stopping xscreensaver, deleting xscreensaver settings and loging out/back in again. any1 know where the local settings are?
[13:17] <xubuntu310> I can't even find a log file that shows that it crashed
[13:17] <Sysi> xubuntu310: run "cat ~/.xsession-errors" and copy output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <recon_lap> xubuntu310: I take it you PC normally asks for a login, and does not auto login
[13:18] <Sysi> (you can open that file with other apps too, it's hidden file in home folder)
[13:18] <huggy-bear> i have found the settings file. it's ~/.xscreensaver
[13:18] <xubuntu310> yes, login required
[13:20] <recon_lap> xubuntu310: and it was logged into your account and not the guest account? and you turned it off last night when you left.
[13:21] <Sysi> recon_lap: screen locking currently failing would indicate that xscreensaver actually has crashed
[13:21] <Sysi> I've heard someone reporting same issue, can't remember what xubuntu version
[13:23] <xubuntu310> yes....I locked the screen last night from the menu (the logout menu with my user name)....when I got to work this morning my PC was unlocked....this has happened numerous times
[13:23] <xubuntu310> I'm on that PC now...and when I try to lock the screen from the menu, it doesn't do anything.....
[13:23] <Sysi> you could remove xscreensaver and use gnome-screensaver
[13:24] <xubuntu310> I'll have to log out and back in for that menu option to start working again
[13:24] <Mathias> tried the reset-thing?
[13:25] <Mathias> or "sudo apt-get --purge remove xscreensaver && sudo apt-get install xscreensaver"
[13:25] <xubuntu310> deleting ~/.xscreensaver
[13:25] <huggy-bear> don't forget to start xscreensaver if it has crashed
[13:25] <xubuntu310> before I do that....shouldn't there be a log file someplace with some details?
[13:26] <xubuntu310> I can't tell if it's crashed or just "hung"
[13:26] <huggy-bear> do: ps -A | grep xscreen
[13:26] <xubuntu310> ps -ef | grep xscreen
[13:27] <Sysi> .xsession-errors might have something
[13:27] <xubuntu310> ps -A | grep xscreen has no results
[13:27] <huggy-bear> good
[13:27] <xubuntu310> which means it's dead
[13:27] <huggy-bear> then it's not running
[13:27] <huggy-bear> now ALT+F2, enter: xscreensaver and press enter
[13:27] <xubuntu310> but now why can't I lock my screen now
[13:28] <huggy-bear> because xscreensaver is not running
[13:28] <Sysi> because the app doing locking is dead
[13:28] <huggy-bear> run it again and try again
[13:28] <recon_lap> xubuntu310:   /var/log/message
[13:28] <huggy-bear> you might also have to log out and log in again
[13:29] <xubuntu310> xscreensaver gave me the splash screen and I clicked settings
[13:30] <xubuntu310>  does not exist -> /var/log/message
[13:30] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: now try suspending
[13:30] <xubuntu310> ps -A | grep xscreen 15670 pts/1    00:00:00 xscreensaver-de 15776 pts/1    00:00:00 xscreensaver
[13:30] <huggy-bear> sorry, locking
[13:30] <huggy-bear> great, it's running
[13:31] <xubuntu310> I restarted the daemon
[13:32] <xubuntu310> and now my menu item to lock the screen works....I just locked and unlocked from the menu
[13:32] <xubuntu310> so the deamon is crashing
[13:32] <Sysi> you could remove xscreensaver and use gnome-screensaver
[13:33] <xubuntu310> sysi -> I've read a number of threads that say that's a bad idea
[13:34] <xubuntu310> I'm avoiding gnome.....in favor of xfce
[13:34] <Sysi> xubuntu310: I haven't heard such, was there some specific reason?
[13:36] <xubuntu310> just avoiding the gnome libs
[13:36] <xubuntu310> xscreen-save man page has this:  -no-capture-stderr                Do  not redirect the stdout and stderr streams to the xscreensaver window itself.  If xscreensaver is crashing, you might need                to do this in order to see the error message.
[13:37] <huggy-bear> you might try this
[13:37] <xubuntu310> and a -log setting
[13:37] <xubuntu310> but where do I make those settings in my .xscreensaver file
[13:38] <xubuntu310> I'm a bit shocked the demon is crashing it looks like *nothing* is getting logged anywhere that the crash happened
[13:39] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: you could just disable the screensaver in the autostart settings and add a new one that just starts this custom command
[13:40] <huggy-bear> try it out for a few days, if it isn't to your liking, i suggest using some of the alternative screen lock tools
[13:40] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: there is a nice tool that may not work with xfce's lock menu, but you can make a launcher on the panel for it easily. it's called xtrlock. it only shows a little padlock that vanishes once you enter your user password
[13:40] <huggy-bear> it's super small, too
[13:41] <xubuntu310> what are my alternatives....and what custom command are you referring to
[13:41] <xubuntu310> maybe I missed a post
[13:41] <xubuntu310> .
[13:41] <xubuntu310> .
[13:41] <xubuntu310> .
[13:41] <xubuntu310> .
[13:41] <xubuntu310> .
[13:41] <Pici> xubuntu310: stop that.
[13:41] <knome> xubuntu310, stop doing that.
[13:42] <xubuntu310> sorry....wanted to make sure I could see the response and not get lost
[13:43] <xubuntu310> my main concern is that the menu option for "lock screen" in the logout menu is what I use to lock the screen
[13:43] <xubuntu310> and that once I lock my screen, if it crashes, I get a log someplace to help me understand what caused the crash so I can fix it.
[13:46] <xubuntu310> so i deleted .xscreensaver
[13:47] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: wait, i found the answer as to how to change the setting
[13:47] <huggy-bear> you can do it in .xscreensaver
[13:47] <xubuntu310> and recreated it by launching the demo and picking a screensaver
[13:48] <xubuntu310> yes.....I need to make those two settings
[13:48] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: change "captureStderr:  True"  to "captureStderr:  False"
[13:48] <xubuntu310> ok
[13:48] <xubuntu310> done
[13:48] <huggy-bear> now just close xscreensaver (killall xscreensaver) and start it again
[13:49] <huggy-bear> then experiment
[13:49] <xubuntu310> don't I need to set the log setting?
[13:49] <huggy-bear> wait, what log setting?
[13:49] <xubuntu310> man xscreensaver
[13:49] <huggy-bear> there is just that one setting. let me see...
[13:49] <xubuntu310> ->   -no-capture-stderr
[13:50] <huggy-bear> yep
[13:50] <xubuntu310> ---->   -log filename                This  is  exactly  the same as redirecting stdout and stderr to                the given file (for append).  This  is  useful  when  reporting                bugs.
[13:50] <huggy-bear> or, in the settings file, it's the one i told you to change
[13:50] <xubuntu310> yes, "captureStderr:  False"
[13:51] <xubuntu310> if I don't set -log then where is the stderr gonna end up......someplace in /var???
[13:51] <huggy-bear> either: /var/log/messages  or another X log
[13:51] <xubuntu310> my understanding was I can set log = ~/.xscreensaver.log
[13:52] <xubuntu310> well, /var/log/messages doesn't exist....which is another issue
[13:52] <huggy-bear> strange
[13:53] <huggy-bear> oh, it does, it's just locked to administrators
[13:53] <huggy-bear> sudoe less /var/log/messages
[13:53] <huggy-bear> sudo less /var/log/messages
[13:53] <xubuntu310> jberk@jberk-linux:~$ sudo less /var/log/messages [sudo] password for jberk:  /var/log/messages: No such file or directory
[13:53] <huggy-bear> wow, really?
[13:54] <xubuntu310> yeah....fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 x64
[13:54] <huggy-bear> I see it here, too.
[13:54] <huggy-bear> so odd
[13:54] <Mathias> maybe your /var/log got robbed?
[13:54] <xubuntu310> robbed?
[13:54] <huggy-bear> Mathias: mine is missing, too. on xubuntu 12.10
[13:55] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: it doesn't matter. let's just change the xscreensaver launcher to include logging.
[13:55] <huggy-bear> let me google if it can be done through the settings file
[13:55] <xubuntu310> I am on 12.10 I think.....
[13:56] <xubuntu310> nope...12.04
[13:56] <xubuntu310> dvd right in front of me
[13:56] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/bugs.html
[13:56] <xubuntu310> jberk@jberk-linux:/var/log$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[13:56] <huggy-bear> instructions on how to report bugs
[13:57] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: although i would rather suggest going through ubuntu's bug report methods
[13:58] <knome> ubuntu-bug xscreensaver
[13:59] <xubuntu310> but still.....what setting should go into the .xscreensaver to capture the crash to a specified log file
[14:01] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: i would suggest you change the command in the autostart
[14:01] <xubuntu310> should I be saving this "xscreensaver-command -exit; xscreensaver -verbose -log log.txt" to a bash file on the desktop?
[14:01] <huggy-bear> nope
[14:01] <huggy-bear> open the Settings Manager
[14:02] <huggy-bear> under system, choose Session and Startup
[14:02] <huggy-bear> then choose the Application Autostart tab
[14:03] <huggy-bear> disable Screensaver, then proceed to make a new launcher by clicking "Add"
[14:03] <huggy-bear> you will see the Command option where you can add: xscreensaver -verbose -log log.txt
[14:03] <huggy-bear> choose something more descriptive than log.txt
[14:04] <huggy-bear> maybe xscreensaver-log.txt
[14:05] <xubuntu310> sure.....I'll set it up right now
[14:05] <xubuntu310> then log out and back in?
[14:06] <huggy-bear> yep
[14:06] <xubuntu310> there is no "screen saver" in the application Autostart list
[14:06] <huggy-bear> something similar?
[14:07] <xubuntu310> bluetooth
[14:07] <huggy-bear> nope
[14:07] <xubuntu310> xfce settings helper
[14:07] <xubuntu310> power manager
[14:07] <huggy-bear> hmm
[14:07] <xubuntu310> print queue
[14:08] <xubuntu310> xfce volume daemon
[14:08] <xubuntu310> new hardware
[14:08] <knome> please stop that
[14:08] <huggy-bear> then i guess the power manager starts the screensaver
[14:08] <xubuntu310> pulseAudio
[14:08] <knome> !pastebin | huggy-bear
[14:08] <knome> !pastebin | xubuntu310
[14:08] <knome> huggy-bear, sorry, in a caffeine rush :)
[14:08] <xubuntu310> NVIDIA x server
[14:08] <huggy-bear> knome: i am not the one posting it :P
[14:09] <huggy-bear> ok, let me google a bit
[14:09] <xubuntu310> the nvidia x server settings or the power manager (but teh power manager is disabled0
[14:11] <huggy-bear> xubuntu310: i rather meant xfce's power manager.
[14:12] <xubuntu310> yeah, it's disabled
[14:13] <huggy-bear> sorry, i've got nothing...
[14:13] <xubuntu310> basically, I want to make the "log" setting in .xscreensaver file
[14:13] <huggy-bear> looking in the man page...
[14:13] <huggy-bear> i know :)
[14:13] <huggy-bear> i have it! :)
[14:13] <huggy-bear> we can do that via .Xdefaults
[14:14] <xubuntu310> and if I don't / can't make it, but changed stderr setting, I need to know where the logs would end up
[14:17] <huggy-bear> ok, open .Xdefaults in your home folder or create one and add this line:  xscreensaver.verbose: True
[14:17] <xubuntu310> ok, there are all sorts of settings in that file for xscreensaver.....mostly colors
[14:17] <huggy-bear> i am still looking for the log file...
[14:19] <xubuntu310> added this: xscreensaver.verbose: True xscreensaver.log: ~/.xscreensaver.log
[14:19] <huggy-bear> wow
[14:19] <huggy-bear> maybe it will work
[14:19] <huggy-bear> the man page does not mention the resource xscreensaver.log, but who knows...
[14:20] <huggy-bear> try it out
[14:20] <xubuntu310> ok...I'll roll with that for a while and next time it crashes we'll see where my output ends up
[14:20] <xubuntu310> if anywhere
[14:20] <xubuntu310> thanks for all the help
[14:20] <huggy-bear> np
[14:20] <xubuntu310> xscreensaver.log is just a filename
[14:21] <xubuntu310> xscreensaver.log is the setting....just like xscreensaver.verbose
[14:21] <huggy-bear> it is, but if the option xscreensaver.log doesn't exist, then it won't work
[14:21] <huggy-bear> but maybe it will resort to creating a default filename
[14:21] <huggy-bear> who knows...
[14:22] <xubuntu310> yeah....all I can do is wait now....
[14:22] <xubuntu310> I'll do my system updates and reboot
[14:22] <xubuntu310> thanks again
[14:22] <huggy-bear> u r welcome
[14:22] <xubuntu310> btw, how do I get to pick a handle....
[14:22] <xubuntu310> do I need to register online someplace
[14:23] <recon_lap> xubuntu310:  use /help to get irc commands, /nick to set a user name
[14:24] <jberk> ok
[14:24] <jberk> thanks
[14:24] <huggy-bear> xubuntu679: if you don't want others to take your nick, then you have to register it
[14:24] <jberk> good bye and thanks for the help
[14:24] <huggy-bear> sorry, wrong person :D
[14:24] <huggy-bear> ok, bye
[14:31] <Aerlis> hello
[14:31] <Aerlis> i'm novice
[14:31] <Aerlis> newbie*
[14:31] <recon_lap> !hi | Aerlis
[14:32] <Aerlis> can somebody help me at my exploring Ubuntu?
[14:33] <Aerlis> i'm sorry for my English
[14:33] <Aerlis> it's not my first language
[14:33] <apm1> is it possible to turn a laptop running xubuntu into a wifi hotspot ?
[14:34] <apm1> i am willing to install anything from the 12.04 repos :)
[14:34] <recon_lap> Aerlis: you might want to try #xubuntu-offtopic as well, probably more suitable
[14:35] <Aerlis> recon_lap: thank you
[14:36] <apm1> i am trying to do a debian netinstall on another one of my laptops , but for that i will need a wifi or ethernet connection so , turning one of the laptops into a wifi hotspot might just work :)
[14:36] <recon_lap> apm1: why not get a cheap router?
[14:37] <apm1> recon_lap, because all i have is mobile broadband connectivity
[14:39] <huggy-bear> apm1: i think getting a cheap wireless router might save more energy in the long run. look on ebay, there are quite cheap ones as well. sometimes the providers also have packages where you can get one for free if you promise to stay a client for a longer time, etc.
[14:40] <recon_lap> apm1: you can do this, something to do with ad-hoc mode. think it might depend on the wireless card you got
[14:40] <apm1> huggy-bear, look i just need to do a netinstall once , so buying anything is wastage
[14:41] <huggy-bear> ah ok :) ad-hoc mode then
[14:41] <huggy-bear> apm1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[14:43] <recon_lap> huggy-bear: most cheap wireless routers dont work with mobile internet
[15:15] <BitPuffin> Hey!
[15:15] <BitPuffin> When will 12.10 be released? :)
[15:17] <zodiak> it's out already.. jst look at most mirrors
[15:17] <BitPuffin> The real one? Not RC?
[15:17] <zodiak> yah
[15:18] <BitPuffin> I don't see it :O
[15:18] <zodiak> again, any mirror and look at the releases directory
[15:18] <recon_lap> lambs running to the bleeding edge =-O
[15:18] <BitPuffin> Ah there it is
[15:18] <zodiak> the official announcement can't make it until AFTER ubuntu announces it officially
[15:18] <BitPuffin> some mirrors don't have it haha
[15:18] <zodiak> all the canadian ones do
[15:18] <zodiak> canada +1 ;P
[15:19] <BitPuffin> well
[15:19] <BitPuffin> UK has it
[15:19] <BitPuffin> but not both UK
[15:19] <zodiak> your problem is probably sweden, I advise you moving away from mooses ;P
[15:19] <BitPuffin> lol
[15:19] <huggy-bear> now i'm not cool any more, have to upgrade to raring :)
[15:19] <zodiak> (although I know that's finland but.. meh)
[15:19] <BitPuffin> Didn't even notice that there's a Swedish mirror?
[15:29] <baizon> use the torrent
[15:48] <BitPuffin> Exciting :)
[15:48] <BitPuffin> But is there even anything new? haha
[15:49] <baizon> of course
[15:49] <baizon> xfce 4.10
[15:49] <BitPuffin> except wallapapers
[15:49] <baizon> its a big step for xfce
[15:49] <BitPuffin> Well
[15:49] <baizon> new appfinder
[15:49] <baizon> tiliing
[15:49] <BitPuffin> what does 12.04 run?
[15:49] <baizon> xfce 4.8
[15:49] <BitPuffin> oh
[15:49] <BitPuffin> well damn
[15:49] <BitPuffin> Sweet!
[15:49] <BitPuffin> Time to install it then, brb!
[15:49] <baizon> :)
[16:14] <apm1> guys how do i do this on xfce ? http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[16:15] <seednode> One momeny, reading the article.
[16:15] <seednode> moment*
[16:15] <baizon> apm1: starting with this image
[16:15] <baizon> http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/image170.png
[16:15] <baizon> right click on network
[16:15] <baizon> and edit connections
[16:16] <apm1> ok
[16:16] <apm1> baizon, thanks man you just saved my day :)
[16:16] <seednode> Wait, there's something I don't understand about that article.
[16:16] <seednode> Since running a hotspot requires using the NIC to do so, wouldn't you need to cards to provide internet across the hotspot?
[16:16] <seednode> two*
[16:16] <baizon> apm1: or here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37696/how-to-set-ubuntu-as-wireless-accespoint-in-the-gui-way
[16:17] <baizon> even with screenshots :)
[16:17] <seednode> baizon: So, would you need two wifi cards, or can it be done with one?
[16:18] <baizon> one
[16:18] <seednode> Hm...
[16:18] <seednode> How would that work?
[16:18] <apm1> baizon, thank you so much :)
[16:19] <baizon> seednode: set your wifi card to adhoc as a accespoint
[16:20] <baizon> and connect with WAN using the wired card
[16:20] <seednode> Yes, but if it's in ad hoc, where will I be getting an internet connection from?
[16:20] <seednode> Oh, you'd need wired.
[16:20] <seednode> See, that's why I was asking.
[16:20] <baizon> of course :)
[16:20] <seednode> See, I knew that was possible.
[16:20] <baizon> or you get a second wifi card for the wan connection
[16:20] <baizon> :)
[16:20] <seednode> Alright, makes sense then.
[16:21] <seednode> Well, my laptop has dual cards.
[16:21] <baizon> or that :)
[16:21] <apm1> or you could use a mobile broadband connection like me
[16:21] <seednode> Like, WWAN?
[16:21] <seednode> OR 3G/4G/etc?
[16:22] <apm1> i am using a 3g modem for this
[16:22] <seednode> Ah.
[16:23] <apm1> hey can someone help me write a shell script to be executed on each startup ?
[16:23] <apm1> it just has to run 2 commands
[16:23] <baizon> apm1: which one?
[16:23] <apm1> i have never written a script before so basically you will have to tell me what i have to do
[16:24] <baizon> which two commands?
[16:26] <apm1> baizon, these http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287208/
[16:27] <baizon> apm1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1287213/
[16:27] <baizon> thats all
[16:28] <apm1> yup
[16:28] <baizon> save as myscrip.sh, then chmod +x myscript.sh. Thats all
[16:29] <baizon> apm1: then add it to session and startup in xfce :)
[16:29] <apm1> sav where ?
[16:29] <apm1> *save where ?
[16:29] <baizon> where you want :)
[16:29] <apm1> baizon, i am doing it on debian not xubuntu
[16:29] <baizon> debian with xfce?
[16:30] <apm1> no gnome2
[16:30] <apm1> will startup apps in settings the same thing ?
[16:30] <baizon> yes
[16:31] <baizon> add there your script and its done
[16:31] <apm1> ok and is  "chmod +x myscript.sh." a command ?
[16:32] <baizon> yes
[16:32] <apm1> ok then doing it
[16:34] <livingdaylight> was wondering why xfce is a popular alternative to unity and gnome shell even?
[16:34] <apm1> baizon, says no such directory
[16:34] <baizon> livingdaylight: its a xubuntu-offtopic thing ;)
[16:35] <baizon> apm1: ?
[16:35] <baizon> in what case?
[16:35] <apm1> baizon, chmod: cannot access `bg.sh': No such file or directory
[16:35] <baizon> apm1: well sudo might help ;)
[16:36] <apm1> i ran as sudo
[16:36] <baizon> what output do you get with ls ?
[16:36] <baizon> is the bg.sh listened?
[16:37] <apm1> no
[16:37] <ANDwlkp> where can i find the official version of xubuntu 12.10?
[16:37] <baizon> well then thats the reason you get the error
[16:37] <apm1> you should have told me to "cd"
[16:37] <baizon> ANDwlkp: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[16:38] <knome> it is not out yet.
[16:38] <baizon> knome: ou then sorry
[16:40] <sevs44936> hi, i have a small problem moving my /home onto another partition
[16:41] <sevs44936> created a new partition on lvm, edited fstab, moved files and rebooted
[16:41] <xGrind> ANDwlkp, http://hex1a4.net/xubuntu/mirror/releases/12.10/release/
[16:41] <ANDwlkp> baizon: why in xubuntu.org is only link to Introducing Xubuntu 12.10 Beta 2 ?
[16:42] <sevs44936> when i try to log in, the screen goes black and returns to the login screen
[16:42] <baizon> ANDwlkp: it isnt officially released, please be patient
[16:42] <knome> xGrind, it is not out yet, so please do not spread the link.
[16:42] <sevs44936> any idea?
[16:42] <knome> ANDwlkp, we will post a release announcement on the site when it's officially out :)
[16:44] <ANDwlkp> knome: when it's officially out ?
[16:45] <ANDwlkp> wikipedia.com say it's today
[16:45] <knome> ANDwlkp, when it's ready. there is no official time set, but it will be "today" UTC
[17:03] <xubuntu115> hello, i cannot get any gui. i am getting fatal server error, no screens found
[17:04] <xubuntu115> i have uninstalled and reinstalled xserver
[17:04] <baizon> xubuntu115: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167000/xorg-server-configuration-fail-no-screens-detected
[17:04] <xubuntu115> baizon: tried that link
[17:05] <baizon> backup xorg.conf
[17:05] <baizon> nvidia?
[17:05] <baizon> check /var/log/X.log for errors
[17:05] <xubuntu115> no, intel intergrated gfx
[17:06] <xubuntu115> works fine on xubuntu 12.04/linux mint xfce 13, but doesn't work on xubuntu 12.10 beta 2
[17:08] <baizon> what error msg do you get?
[17:08] <baizon> you have to check the log
[17:08] <xubuntu115> screens found, but none have a usable configuration?
[17:09] <xubuntu115> failed to detect gem, kernel 2.6.28 required. failed to become drm master. screens found but none have a usable connectgion. no screens found.
[17:09] <xubuntu115> those are all the ee
[17:10] <baizon> what intel graphics card do you have?
[17:10] <xubuntu115> its intergrated, n2600 atom processor
[17:11] <xubuntu115> gma 500 or 300 i think
[17:12] <xubuntu115> intel gma 3600 sorry even
[17:16] <epzil0n> anyone knows why xubuntu 12.10 isn't out yet?
[17:17] <baizon> epzil0n: patients
[17:18] <baizon> patiences
[17:18] <epzil0n> :)
[17:18] <baizon> will be out soon
[17:18] <SkippersBoss> euh ?? what m a getting from a mirror then
[17:18] <ramin> aaaaaaaany second now :D
[17:18] <xubuntu115> baizon: any ideas then ?
[17:18] <SkippersBoss> knome says it there
[17:18] <epzil0n> great, i'm currently running the beta release and really like it :)
[17:18] <knome> it's out
[17:18] <knome> release announcement mail is out
[17:19] <ramin> torrent all the things
[17:19] <baizon> epzil0n: see
[17:19] <epzil0n> hehe
[17:19] <baizon> xubuntu115: no sorry, never had an intel gpu :(
[17:19] <xubuntu115> ok thanks anyway
[17:20] <baizon> np
[17:20] <epzil0n> nice, got to download it :P
[17:20] <babaei> I'm seeing the upgrade from a mirror now.
[17:21] <xubuntu115> baizon: i'm following a long a post for precise, but obviously using quantal. when running apt-get update, its trying to access from /quantal/main/sources, but should be /precise/main/sources
[17:21] <xubuntu115> can i change this
[17:23] <apm1> baizon, the scrip works thanks a lot :)
[17:23] <xubuntu115> where do custom ppa's go when added from terminal ?
[17:23] <xubuntu115> i need to change the url of one manually
[17:23] <apm1> *script
[17:24] <baizon> xubuntu115: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[17:24] <baizon> apm1: nice to hear
[17:24] <baizon> xubuntu115: they are in the source.list.d directory
[17:27] <xubuntu115> i only see sources.list.5.gz and when opened in nano, is all rubbish characters
[17:27] <xubuntu115> i just need to change one link, it's not in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:28] <baizon> what is inside /etc/apt
[17:30] <xubuntu115> baizon: legend :) sorry im only 6 months in to linux!
[17:33] <baizon> np xubuntu115
[17:35] <Unit193> knome: Figured you{d want to.
[17:36] <knome> Unit193, oh, whatever works. :) i almost forgot...
[17:36] <Nivex> Hey folks. Got the Xubuntu 12.10 image down on torrent, installed in a VM. I try to log in at the LightDM prompt, it accepts my password, then drops me right back to the login
[17:37] <Nivex> I noticed it did this after I apt-get upgraded from beta2, but I figured it was just something with the upgrade so I didn't poke any further
[17:37] <baizon> Nivex: create new user and try then
[17:38] <koegs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/992579 :(
[17:39] <Nivex> baizon: this is a _fresh_ install
[17:41] <xubuntu115> i now need this, xorg-video-abi-11.deb, which is a part of xserver-xorg-core apparently, but i cannot install it. i need a .deb somewhere
[17:42] <Nivex> baizon: added new user as you suggested. same symptoms: authentication succeeds but after a brief delay get thrown back to the login screen
[17:43] <baizon> check log :)
[17:44] <Nivex> which one? I'm flipping through /var/log/lightdm/*.log now trying to find something useful and coming up nil
[17:45] <Nivex> ohh, eww. the X server is terminating with signal 6 SIGABRT
[17:46] <baizon> what graphics card do you have
[17:46] <baizon> ?
[17:47] <Nivex> It's a KVM guest, so cirrus logic
[17:48] <xubuntu115> meh, back to linux mint 13 xfce i guess...
[17:48] <GridCube> why?
[17:48] <Marzatha> community, thank you for Xubu 12.10!
[17:48] <Nivex> bam, switched it to vmvga and I can log in now
[17:48] <Nivex> that is bizarre
[17:49] <baizon> GridCube: hes intel graphics cards isnt working
[17:49] <GridCube> oh
[17:49] <GridCube> generic isnt working?
[17:50] <baizon> i have no idea, dont use(d) intel hardware
[17:56] <xubuntu796> Hello, error in your torrent links, it is quantal, not precise
[17:56] <xubuntu796> For Xubuntu 12.10
[17:58] <baizon> xubuntu796: your sure?
[17:58] <xubuntu796> Anyone here ? Or else do you know how I can contact the webmaster ?
[17:58] <xubuntu796> Yes, try it
[17:58] <xubuntu796> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[17:58] <baizon> i get Not Found
[17:58] <xubuntu796> and
[17:58] <xubuntu796> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[17:58] <xubuntu796> Normal, it is not precise, but quantal
[17:59] <xubuntu796> in the url
[17:59] <baizon> i get its not available
[17:59] <torax> not found
[17:59] <xubuntu796> Normal, it should be :
[17:59] <xubuntu796> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[17:59] <xubuntu796> and
[18:00] <xubuntu796> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/quantal/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:00] <torax> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/
[18:00] <xubuntu796> So how can I contact the webmaster so he can fix this little mistake ?
[18:00] <knome> xubuntu796, thanks, refresh the page: updated
[18:00] <knome> xubuntu796, you just did
[18:00] <xubuntu796> Ok
[18:01] <xubuntu796> Good for Xubuntu users who don't know how to fix this little mistake :)
[18:01] <knome> yep
[18:01] <knome> thanks for reporting
[18:02] <xubuntu796> Normal, it's not big, but I can do it, so....
[18:02] <xubuntu796> Have a nice evening (in France it is evening :P)
[18:02] <xubuntu796> Bye :)
[18:03] <decci> I need to create Xubuntu live cd with mkahawa (http://www.mkahawa.net). I am in verse to build two sets of live cd, one for the server and another for the client. On the Server Live Cd : 1.)Webmin 2.)Mkahawa Server  3.)Gofris 4.)Wine
[18:03] <decci> May I know how shall I start?
[18:05] <decci> I read about uck
[18:16] <decci> I need to create Xubuntu live cd with mkahawa (http://www.mkahawa.net). I am in verse to build two sets of live cd, one for the server and another for the client. On the Server Live Cd : 1.)Webmin 2.)Mkahawa Server  3.)Gofris 4.)Wine
[18:18] <ramin> can someone help me with this vb issue? http://i.imgur.com/ZfSCt.png
[18:22] <baizon> ramin: disable the VT-x feature
[18:22] <baizon> its a intel only feature
[18:25] <decci> baizon: Can you help me with this?
[18:25] <baizon> decci: no sorry :(
[18:25] <baizon> i have no idea
[18:27] <ramin> thanks
[18:27] <baizon> thank me if it works ;)
[18:28] <xubuntu872> df
[18:28] <xubuntu872> hello
[18:28] <xubuntu872> how can i update from xubuntu 12.04 to 12.10?
[18:28] <baizon> !hi | xubuntu872
[18:29] <baizon> xubuntu872: run "update-manager -d"
[18:29] <xubuntu872> ok thx
[18:32]  * epzil0n is running 12.10 and it's really nice <3
[19:49] <XRS1> Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported
[19:53] <hickop> Hi, just installed xubuntu into a qemu virtual machine but I cannot get past the display manager, I set it to automatically login but I always get back to login, any idea plz ?
[19:54] <recon_lap> hickop: have you tried setting nomodeset in the boot cmd
[19:55] <recon_lap> hickop: might be somthing else though, have you look at the logs
[19:56] <hickop> how can I set boot cmd ?
[19:56] <hickop> or even drop to a tty so i can get to the logs ?
[19:57] <recon_lap> hickop: ctrl-shift-f2 to get tty
[19:57] <recon_lap> hickop: ctrl-shift-f7 to get back
[19:58] <hickop> doesnt work for me
[19:58] <recon_lap> hickop: or press shift while it's booting to get boot menu
[19:59] <Sysi> if one gets to login screen, graphics problems shouldn't prevent logging
[20:00] <hickop> looks like my qemu doesnt capture my shift key
[20:01] <hickop> more a qemu problem I guess , sorry
[20:01] <recon_lap> hickop: can you view the files outside the VM
[20:02] <hickop> should try with a raw image then
[20:02] <hickop> i made it qcow2 format
[20:03] <recon_lap> hickop: know nothing about qemu
[20:04] <hickop> I remember xubuntu 12.04 worked but it could be a qemu update that broke something
[20:04] <number1235> has anyone had their sudo do-release-upgrade turn up 12.10 yet? Sorry I'm sure this has been asked already.
[20:05] <XRS1> i never managed to break 12.04 without it being myfaultretarded
[20:05] <Sysi> number1235: because 12.04 is LTS you need to use -d lever to get it to show 12.10
[20:06] <number1235> Sysi: Well then thank you! My first time upgrading from an LTS
[20:08] <number1235> Time to go do that...
[21:11] <majsza> running remix Xubuntu 12.10 (live cd, instalation):
[21:11] <majsza> Kopiowanie 31 plików z 93
[21:11] <majsza> coś niewłaściwego stało się przy tłumaczeniu "pl.archive.ubuntu.com:http" (-5  - Brak adresu związanego z nazwą hosta)
[21:12] <majsza> Błąd http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates Release.gpg
[21:12] <knome> !pl | majsza
[21:16] <majsza> skip and installation moved on
[21:20] <livingdaylight> ubuntu software center isn't letting me install java. it crashed
[21:20] <Unit193> Try the apt-get command.
[21:20] <livingdaylight> what is the command line, please, sudo apt-get openjdk7 -??
[21:21] <Unit193> !apt
[21:21] <Unit193> Missed install in there, and whatever the package name is.
[21:21] <livingdaylight> yea
[21:22] <livingdaylight> !java
[21:23] <alphalupi> I'm having problems installing 12.10. I want to use encryption & LVM, but I need 2 encrypted volumes and the partitioner does not seem to like this.
[21:26] <alphalupi> Any advice?
[21:27] <recon_lap> alphalupi: create an extended partition then you can make upto 254 sub partitions on that
[21:27] <alphalupi> It's across 2 disks.
[21:28] <recon_lap> alphalupi: sry, did not that was the problem
[21:28] <alphalupi> That's OK. Any other ideas?
[21:29] <Sysi> you maybe could try mini.iso and installing xubuntu-desktop on top of it
[21:30] <alphalupi> I don't know what mini.iso is
[21:30] <Sysi> !mini
[21:30] <Sysi> text-based installer, probaby better with lvm
[21:30] <alphalupi> I think the partitioner is common to all the install disks isn't it?
[21:30] <alphalupi> Also I think I just got it.
[21:31] <Sysi> no, GUI partitioner is different than text one AFAIK
[21:31] <alphalupi> Wish me luck, I think I figured it out and am about to commit.
[21:32] <alphalupi> Nope, didn't work.
[21:37] <alphalupi> Making another go of it.
[21:41] <alphalupi> Is there a difference in installing the bootloader in /dev/sda vs. /dev/sda1 ? especially if /dev/sda1 is mounted /boot ?
[21:41] <fluvvell> I've just changed graphics cards, but forgotten what to do to reconfigure xubuntu without manually editing xorg.conf file - hints please?
[21:43] <fluvvell> it doesn't seem to be running the nvidia driver, even though jockey says its activated (but not in use)
[21:43] <Sysi> alphalupi: unless you have uefi system, use sda
[21:43] <fluvvell> alphalupi, drives boot from the boot sector of the physical drive, so bootloader should go there.
[21:44] <alphalupi> sysi: thanks
[21:44] <alphalupi> fluvvell: thanks
[21:45] <fluvvell> alphalupi, using grub ?
[21:46] <alphalupi> I'm still stuck in the partitioner
[21:46] <Sysi> fluvvell: if you have nvidia driver installed, adding nomodeset should prevent opensource driver from being loaded and nvidia driver to be used
[21:46] <Sysi> nomodeset in grub conf
[21:46] <fluvvell> ok cheers Sysi I'll whip in and edit that now.
[21:47] <Sysi> if you end up with aful resolution, try generating xorg.conf with nvidia tool if other options in it don't work
[21:55] <alphalupi> Is there a known bug in 12.10 that prevents 2 encrypted partitions from existing?
[21:57] <bigcalm> Hi :) Just upgraded my laptop to 12.10 and the display doesn't appear to be using restricted ATI drivers any more. I've tried running jockey, but it can't find any drivers to install. Anybody got any pointers?
[22:27] <fluvvell> Sysi, is there a comma separator or just spaces?
[22:31] <XRS1> mounting USB thumbdrive from desktop icon: "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported." *OR* "The given volume was not found."
[22:31] <XRS1> http://pastebin.com/zWPHPVLy
[22:43] <xubuntu051> hi
[22:43] <XRS1> hi
[22:44] <xubuntu051> I'm looking forward to upgrading to 12.10 :)
[22:44] <XRS1> its nice
[22:45] <xubuntu051> the release notes said that the messaging indicator doesn't work or something? do you  know what this is about?
[22:46] <bluesabre> xubuntu051: Basically, the latest changes to the messaging indicator code made it exclusively for GTK+3.  Xubuntu is powered by Xfce, which is GTK+2 and doesn't support GTK+3 widgets in the panel.
[22:47] <xubuntu051> ahh I see, thanks for explaining that :)
[22:49] <bluesabre> Sure, no problem.  Hopefully we'll have a GTK+3 panel in 13.04 and can look forward to a formal return of the messaging indicator :)
[22:49] <xubuntu051> hehe :)
[22:50] <XRS1> hmm... sucky
[22:50] <xubuntu051> I currently use Popper to notify me about new emails, do you  know if that would work without the message indicator?
[22:51]  * SkippersBoss cant get dvb stick to work.
[22:52] <bluesabre> xubuntu051: I can't say for sure, but it looks like it might depend on the indicator
[22:52] <SkippersBoss> Jockey used to find it straight away
[22:54] <xubuntu051> do you use a mail notifier in Xubuntu? what do you find best?
[23:02] <xubuntu051> thanks for your help guys
[23:11] <SkippersBoss> Guys problem. removal of Jockey means my DVB adaptor is no longer recognised.
[23:11] <SkippersBoss> looks like i will be returning to 12.04 if this cannot be solved
[23:11] <SkippersBoss> anyone any suggestions
[23:13] <GridCube> what is a dvb?
[23:16] <bluesabre> SkippersBoss, any luck in Settings Manager > Software Sources > Additional Drivers?
[23:16] <SkippersBoss> NOPe empty
[23:17] <bluesabre> :\
[23:17] <SkippersBoss> Jockey would find him easily
[23:17] <holstein> i would do the normal stuff. lscpi or lsusb... see if the device is recongnized
[23:19] <SkippersBoss> Bus 001 Device 010: ID 15a4:9016 Afatech Technologies, Inc. AF9015 DVB-T USB2.0 stick
[23:19] <SkippersBoss> i say yes
[23:22] <GridCube> !info gnome-dvb-daemon
[23:24] <SkippersBoss> it would still need to detect the hardware first
[23:25] <GridCube> its detected
[23:25] <GridCube> you just pasted the thingy
[23:52] <SkippersBoss> It's coming to something that I have to install jockey-kde to get my dvb-T thing recognised
[23:52] <SkippersBoss> Software centre sources was oblivious
[23:53] <Unit193> SkippersBoss: Some sort of Software Sources is where they are hiding it.
[23:53] <SkippersBoss> That is still empty