[02:06] O hai === IdleOne is now known as RaringOne [05:05] 你好 [05:07] !cn | hai [05:07] hai: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [05:08] ok! === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:31] How is it possible to set lightdm to prompt for username? === xubuntu is now known as swp [08:49] Hi, how do I remove the shadows under the Desktop icons? Also, how can I set up the dekstop to show full file names instead of just a part and then ...? [08:59] Hello. [08:59] How can I help you, xubuntu341? [09:00] =) === Transfuta is now known as Transfuta_ === Transfuta_ is now known as Transfuta [11:31] hello, world [11:31] help me pls [11:31] only a small part of the world is here :P [11:31] !hi | kkkjjjuuu [11:31] kkkjjjuuu: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [11:33] kkkjjjuuu: whats the problem? [11:33] i can't to conigure microphon on xubuntu 12.04 netbook msi u100 [11:34] kkkjjjuuu: have you tried with pavucontrol? [11:34] I'm used alsaconfig [11:36] kkkjjjuuu: try pavucontrol ;) [11:36] thx, trying [11:38] well, I'm using pavucontrol [11:39] not work [11:39] is the microphone showing up? [11:42] is the background sound of the noise, but when I speak into the microphone, nothing happens [11:42] а есть кто по русски умеет говорить? [11:42] maybe you got the wrong input [11:42] !ru [11:42] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [11:43] thx [11:44] np [12:05] hello [12:06] !hi | Ady23 [12:06] Ady23: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [12:06] when will the final release of xubuntu will be available for dwonload? [12:07] Ady23: in the next 24h [12:07] well on wikipedia it says it will be launched on 18 october [12:08] is'nt today 18 october? [12:08] it is [12:08] Ady23: never is a final release , then come every 6 months :) . I personally never in a hurry to upgrade [12:08] yesterday i bougjt an asus eepc and i wanna try xubuntu on it [12:08] i waited for the final release [12:09] Ady23: it will be released on 18'th of october but US time ;) [12:09] and i thought today i will download it.. [12:09] you can download it today [12:09] us time... [12:09] that means tomorow [12:09] right? [12:09] Ady23: I'd suggest try with 12.04.1 or wait a couple of days and you can try 12.10 [12:09] yep [12:10] another question [12:10] Ady23: do you have a USB flash drive? [12:10] cand i play videos on my asus eepc trough hdmi interface? [12:10] Ady23: what eeepc do you have? [12:11] Ady23: i can do it with xubuntu 12.10, with 12.04 hdmi sound isnt working on the open source drivers [12:11] unless it has weird nvidia hybrid gpu, you should be able to [12:11] Asus 1015BX [12:11] Ady23: i recommend 12.10, because of the 3.5 kernel [12:11] it has apu [12:11] hdmi will work fine with it [12:11] amd c60 [12:12] and radeon 6290 [12:12] yes i know [12:12] will it work? [12:12] with 12.10 yes [12:12] baizon: aren't proprietary drivers much more power-efficient? [12:12] im using xubuntu and hdmi [12:12] Ady23: you should be able to play movies , I'v got a good link for you https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn [12:12] Sysi: well i think yes, but multi-monitor support is awefull [12:12] oss drivers are much better [12:13] baizon: doesn't ati have on setup tool for that? [12:13] yes, but its hard to use [12:13] aticonfig [12:13] so i jus plug in and works no other settings neded? [12:13] but i got problems with graphics and refresh rate [12:13] Ady23: with 12.10 yes [12:13] i'm a beginer on linux [12:14] with 12.04 you need the proprietary drivers [12:14] then everything will work aswell [12:14] and you recomend me to instal propietary drivers or to leave it without it? [12:14] you can test both [12:15] i dont use it [12:15] they were to unstable for me [12:15] and i need fast and easy multi-monitor support [12:15] with arandr its very easy [12:15] but you can test both like i said :) [12:15] thats my personal opinion [12:16] ok i got it [12:16] but i read ati drivers are'nt very well suported on linux? [12:16] is that true? [12:16] well they are ok [12:16] for games and hdmi [12:17] but when it comes to multi-monitor, they arent so good imo [12:17] Ady23: general rule is if it brand new it tends not to be supported well [12:17] i had no problems with a ati 7950, three monitors and xubuntu :) [12:17] proprietary drivers from ati.com of course [12:17] koegs: with the proprietary? [12:18] how did you solved it? [12:18] i mean, how did you set it up? [12:18] with amdcccle :) [12:18] well for me it wasnt working at all [12:19] koegs: did you use xinerama? [12:19] amdcccle had some problems with segfaults, but if it di not segfault, there was no problem setting up the monitors [12:20] hmm [12:20] xubuntu still has no tool to setup a system-wide proxy, right? [12:20] maybe ill test it [12:20] koegs: i think no [12:21] so apt.conf and /etc/profile it is :) [12:22] Ady23: anyway, you should create a live USB, that is installing xubuntu onto a USB stick and booting from that, lets you see if you are going to have any issues before you install anything on you eepc . [12:31] Ady23: use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows but use the xubuntu ISO instead of the ubuntu one [13:11] hello? [13:11] hello? [13:11] :) [13:11] I am looking for help with xubuntu and the screen lock [13:11] what is the problem? [13:11] when I lock my screen and go home for the day [13:12] and come back the next....my PC is unlocked..... [13:12] the screen lock is crashing, and leaving my PC unlocked [13:12] which is a real deal breaker for me..... [13:12] on 12.04? [13:12] yes [13:13] happened last night (or early this morning) [13:13] so today, when I got to work, my PC was wide open [13:13] that is rather strange. [13:13] let me check something [13:13] will xubuntu ship with xfce 4.10 and kernel 3.5 ? [13:13] xubuntu310: wide open? [13:14] unlocked....anybody could have sat there and used my PC [13:14] if I go to the log out menu and attempt to lock my PC again, nothing happens [13:15] xscreensaver 5.15 [13:15] xubuntu310: running xubuntu? check for usb keys ? === IdleOne is now known as raringOne === raringOne is now known as RaringOne [13:16] like flash drives? [13:16] 310, yeah [13:16] keyboard and mouse are usb....that's it [13:17] no drives plugged in [13:17] I would also suggest stopping xscreensaver, deleting xscreensaver settings and loging out/back in again. any1 know where the local settings are? [13:17] I can't even find a log file that shows that it crashed [13:17] xubuntu310: run "cat ~/.xsession-errors" and copy output to http://paste.ubuntu.com [13:18] xubuntu310: I take it you PC normally asks for a login, and does not auto login [13:18] (you can open that file with other apps too, it's hidden file in home folder) [13:18] i have found the settings file. it's ~/.xscreensaver [13:18] yes, login required [13:20] xubuntu310: and it was logged into your account and not the guest account? and you turned it off last night when you left. [13:21] recon_lap: screen locking currently failing would indicate that xscreensaver actually has crashed [13:21] I've heard someone reporting same issue, can't remember what xubuntu version [13:23] yes....I locked the screen last night from the menu (the logout menu with my user name)....when I got to work this morning my PC was unlocked....this has happened numerous times [13:23] I'm on that PC now...and when I try to lock the screen from the menu, it doesn't do anything..... [13:23] you could remove xscreensaver and use gnome-screensaver [13:24] I'll have to log out and back in for that menu option to start working again [13:24] tried the reset-thing? [13:25] or "sudo apt-get --purge remove xscreensaver && sudo apt-get install xscreensaver" [13:25] deleting ~/.xscreensaver [13:25] don't forget to start xscreensaver if it has crashed [13:25] before I do that....shouldn't there be a log file someplace with some details? [13:26] I can't tell if it's crashed or just "hung" [13:26] do: ps -A | grep xscreen [13:26] ps -ef | grep xscreen [13:27] .xsession-errors might have something [13:27] ps -A | grep xscreen has no results [13:27] good [13:27] which means it's dead [13:27] then it's not running [13:27] now ALT+F2, enter: xscreensaver and press enter [13:27] but now why can't I lock my screen now [13:28] because xscreensaver is not running [13:28] because the app doing locking is dead [13:28] run it again and try again [13:28] xubuntu310: /var/log/message [13:28] you might also have to log out and log in again [13:29] xscreensaver gave me the splash screen and I clicked settings [13:30] does not exist -> /var/log/message [13:30] xubuntu310: now try suspending [13:30] ps -A | grep xscreen 15670 pts/1 00:00:00 xscreensaver-de 15776 pts/1 00:00:00 xscreensaver [13:30] sorry, locking [13:30] great, it's running [13:31] I restarted the daemon [13:32] and now my menu item to lock the screen works....I just locked and unlocked from the menu [13:32] so the deamon is crashing [13:32] you could remove xscreensaver and use gnome-screensaver [13:33] sysi -> I've read a number of threads that say that's a bad idea [13:34] I'm avoiding gnome.....in favor of xfce [13:34] xubuntu310: I haven't heard such, was there some specific reason? [13:36] just avoiding the gnome libs [13:36] xscreen-save man page has this: -no-capture-stderr Do not redirect the stdout and stderr streams to the xscreensaver window itself. If xscreensaver is crashing, you might need to do this in order to see the error message. [13:37] you might try this [13:37] and a -log setting [13:37] but where do I make those settings in my .xscreensaver file [13:38] I'm a bit shocked the demon is crashing it looks like *nothing* is getting logged anywhere that the crash happened [13:39] xubuntu310: you could just disable the screensaver in the autostart settings and add a new one that just starts this custom command [13:40] try it out for a few days, if it isn't to your liking, i suggest using some of the alternative screen lock tools [13:40] xubuntu310: there is a nice tool that may not work with xfce's lock menu, but you can make a launcher on the panel for it easily. it's called xtrlock. it only shows a little padlock that vanishes once you enter your user password [13:40] it's super small, too [13:41] what are my alternatives....and what custom command are you referring to [13:41] maybe I missed a post [13:41] . [13:41] . [13:41] . [13:41] . [13:41] . [13:41] xubuntu310: stop that. [13:41] xubuntu310, stop doing that. [13:42] sorry....wanted to make sure I could see the response and not get lost [13:43] my main concern is that the menu option for "lock screen" in the logout menu is what I use to lock the screen [13:43] and that once I lock my screen, if it crashes, I get a log someplace to help me understand what caused the crash so I can fix it. [13:46] so i deleted .xscreensaver [13:47] xubuntu310: wait, i found the answer as to how to change the setting [13:47] you can do it in .xscreensaver [13:47] and recreated it by launching the demo and picking a screensaver [13:48] yes.....I need to make those two settings [13:48] xubuntu310: change "captureStderr: True" to "captureStderr: False" [13:48] ok [13:48] done [13:48] now just close xscreensaver (killall xscreensaver) and start it again [13:49] then experiment [13:49] don't I need to set the log setting? [13:49] wait, what log setting? [13:49] man xscreensaver [13:49] there is just that one setting. let me see... [13:49] -> -no-capture-stderr [13:50] yep [13:50] ----> -log filename This is exactly the same as redirecting stdout and stderr to the given file (for append). This is useful when reporting bugs. [13:50] or, in the settings file, it's the one i told you to change [13:50] yes, "captureStderr: False" [13:51] if I don't set -log then where is the stderr gonna end up......someplace in /var??? [13:51] either: /var/log/messages or another X log [13:51] my understanding was I can set log = ~/.xscreensaver.log [13:52] well, /var/log/messages doesn't exist....which is another issue [13:52] strange [13:53] oh, it does, it's just locked to administrators [13:53] sudoe less /var/log/messages [13:53] sudo less /var/log/messages [13:53] jberk@jberk-linux:~$ sudo less /var/log/messages [sudo] password for jberk: /var/log/messages: No such file or directory [13:53] wow, really? [13:54] yeah....fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 x64 [13:54] I see it here, too. [13:54] so odd [13:54] maybe your /var/log got robbed? [13:54] robbed? [13:54] Mathias: mine is missing, too. on xubuntu 12.10 [13:55] xubuntu310: it doesn't matter. let's just change the xscreensaver launcher to include logging. [13:55] let me google if it can be done through the settings file [13:55] I am on 12.10 I think..... [13:56] nope...12.04 [13:56] dvd right in front of me [13:56] xubuntu310: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/bugs.html [13:56] jberk@jberk-linux:/var/log$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise [13:56] instructions on how to report bugs [13:57] xubuntu310: although i would rather suggest going through ubuntu's bug report methods [13:58] ubuntu-bug xscreensaver [13:59] but still.....what setting should go into the .xscreensaver to capture the crash to a specified log file [14:01] xubuntu310: i would suggest you change the command in the autostart [14:01] should I be saving this "xscreensaver-command -exit; xscreensaver -verbose -log log.txt" to a bash file on the desktop? [14:01] nope [14:01] open the Settings Manager [14:02] under system, choose Session and Startup [14:02] then choose the Application Autostart tab [14:03] disable Screensaver, then proceed to make a new launcher by clicking "Add" [14:03] you will see the Command option where you can add: xscreensaver -verbose -log log.txt [14:03] choose something more descriptive than log.txt [14:04] maybe xscreensaver-log.txt [14:05] sure.....I'll set it up right now [14:05] then log out and back in? [14:06] yep [14:06] there is no "screen saver" in the application Autostart list [14:06] something similar? [14:07] bluetooth [14:07] nope [14:07] xfce settings helper [14:07] power manager [14:07] hmm [14:07] print queue [14:08] xfce volume daemon [14:08] new hardware [14:08] please stop that [14:08] then i guess the power manager starts the screensaver [14:08] pulseAudio [14:08] !pastebin | huggy-bear [14:08] huggy-bear: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:08] !pastebin | xubuntu310 [14:08] xubuntu310: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:08] huggy-bear, sorry, in a caffeine rush :) [14:08] NVIDIA x server [14:08] knome: i am not the one posting it :P [14:09] ok, let me google a bit [14:09] the nvidia x server settings or the power manager (but teh power manager is disabled0 [14:11] xubuntu310: i rather meant xfce's power manager. [14:12] yeah, it's disabled [14:13] sorry, i've got nothing... [14:13] basically, I want to make the "log" setting in .xscreensaver file [14:13] looking in the man page... [14:13] i know :) [14:13] i have it! :) [14:13] we can do that via .Xdefaults [14:14] and if I don't / can't make it, but changed stderr setting, I need to know where the logs would end up [14:17] ok, open .Xdefaults in your home folder or create one and add this line: xscreensaver.verbose: True [14:17] ok, there are all sorts of settings in that file for xscreensaver.....mostly colors [14:17] i am still looking for the log file... [14:19] added this: xscreensaver.verbose: True xscreensaver.log: ~/.xscreensaver.log [14:19] wow [14:19] maybe it will work [14:19] the man page does not mention the resource xscreensaver.log, but who knows... [14:20] try it out [14:20] ok...I'll roll with that for a while and next time it crashes we'll see where my output ends up [14:20] if anywhere [14:20] thanks for all the help [14:20] np [14:20] xscreensaver.log is just a filename [14:21] xscreensaver.log is the setting....just like xscreensaver.verbose [14:21] it is, but if the option xscreensaver.log doesn't exist, then it won't work [14:21] but maybe it will resort to creating a default filename [14:21] who knows... [14:22] yeah....all I can do is wait now.... [14:22] I'll do my system updates and reboot [14:22] thanks again [14:22] u r welcome [14:22] btw, how do I get to pick a handle.... [14:22] do I need to register online someplace [14:23] xubuntu310: use /help to get irc commands, /nick to set a user name === xubuntu310 is now known as jberk [14:24] ok [14:24] thanks [14:24] xubuntu679: if you don't want others to take your nick, then you have to register it [14:24] good bye and thanks for the help [14:24] sorry, wrong person :D [14:24] ok, bye [14:31] hello [14:31] i'm novice [14:31] newbie* [14:31] !hi | Aerlis [14:31] Aerlis: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [14:32] can somebody help me at my exploring Ubuntu? [14:33] i'm sorry for my English [14:33] it's not my first language [14:33] is it possible to turn a laptop running xubuntu into a wifi hotspot ? [14:34] i am willing to install anything from the 12.04 repos :) [14:34] Aerlis: you might want to try #xubuntu-offtopic as well, probably more suitable [14:35] recon_lap: thank you [14:36] i am trying to do a debian netinstall on another one of my laptops , but for that i will need a wifi or ethernet connection so , turning one of the laptops into a wifi hotspot might just work :) [14:36] apm1: why not get a cheap router? [14:37] recon_lap, because all i have is mobile broadband connectivity [14:39] apm1: i think getting a cheap wireless router might save more energy in the long run. look on ebay, there are quite cheap ones as well. sometimes the providers also have packages where you can get one for free if you promise to stay a client for a longer time, etc. [14:40] apm1: you can do this, something to do with ad-hoc mode. think it might depend on the wireless card you got [14:40] huggy-bear, look i just need to do a netinstall once , so buying anything is wastage [14:41] ah ok :) ad-hoc mode then [14:41] apm1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc [14:43] huggy-bear: most cheap wireless routers dont work with mobile internet [15:15] Hey! [15:15] When will 12.10 be released? :) [15:17] it's out already.. jst look at most mirrors [15:17] The real one? Not RC? [15:17] yah [15:18] I don't see it :O [15:18] again, any mirror and look at the releases directory [15:18] lambs running to the bleeding edge =-O [15:18] Ah there it is [15:18] the official announcement can't make it until AFTER ubuntu announces it officially [15:18] some mirrors don't have it haha [15:18] all the canadian ones do [15:18] canada +1 ;P [15:19] well [15:19] UK has it [15:19] but not both UK [15:19] your problem is probably sweden, I advise you moving away from mooses ;P [15:19] lol [15:19] now i'm not cool any more, have to upgrade to raring :) [15:19] (although I know that's finland but.. meh) [15:19] Didn't even notice that there's a Swedish mirror? [15:29] use the torrent [15:48] Exciting :) [15:48] But is there even anything new? haha [15:49] of course [15:49] xfce 4.10 [15:49] except wallapapers [15:49] its a big step for xfce [15:49] Well [15:49] new appfinder [15:49] tiliing [15:49] what does 12.04 run? [15:49] xfce 4.8 [15:49] oh [15:49] well damn [15:49] Sweet! [15:49] Time to install it then, brb! [15:49] :) [16:14] guys how do i do this on xfce ? http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/ [16:15] One momeny, reading the article. [16:15] moment* [16:15] apm1: starting with this image [16:15] http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/image170.png [16:15] right click on network [16:15] and edit connections [16:16] ok [16:16] baizon, thanks man you just saved my day :) [16:16] Wait, there's something I don't understand about that article. [16:16] Since running a hotspot requires using the NIC to do so, wouldn't you need to cards to provide internet across the hotspot? [16:16] two* [16:16] apm1: or here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37696/how-to-set-ubuntu-as-wireless-accespoint-in-the-gui-way [16:17] even with screenshots :) [16:17] baizon: So, would you need two wifi cards, or can it be done with one? [16:18] one [16:18] Hm... [16:18]