[00:01] How do I start the Google Music Manager after install.. there's no menu item and "whereis" is useless without the package name. === michael__ is now known as shadowdf [00:36] if you install w/ encrypted home folder. if you reinstall and use same password will you be able to see your documents? === jonah is now known as Guest6286 [00:46] Hi I've just upgraded my Kubuntu host to 12.10 and now vmware workstation won't load up. I've tried the new patch and also tried to uninstall but for some reason I get this error on reinstallation: Unable to stop services. [00:46] i'd be grateful if anyone is please able to help [00:49] well the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 is done...went without a hitch far as i can tell [00:50] I am having issues with my 12.04 box but only when it runs in windows = how can I load the system to test hardware under kubuntu... I mean really that is what is important. [00:52] In windows it magically reboots/restarts.... kubuntu (no load) seems to run flawlessly - as we'd expect, but lets put it to the test... but how [00:52] ? === larry is now known as Guest37284 [00:54] where is everyone from? [00:57] Guest6286: well... when a man and a woman like each other very much.... [00:58] sorry, that should be Guest37284... who has now left :P [01:00] stress test kubuntu - anyone? [01:00] kanada [01:03] dougl: how about the 'stress' package? [01:03] or 'cpuburn' [01:03] or 'crashme' [01:04] cpuburn will only load the cpu itself.... building a kernel is a nice stress test, though. or some other largish software package. [01:06] Torch: Qt, OpenOffice or LibreOffice would do it... (they were a pain 10 years ago anyway) [01:16] SIR_Taco, never heard of any of them - thanks === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [01:24] SIR_Taco, can you help me out with the syntax of stress... cpu and io? === michael__ is now known as shadowdf [01:27] I am not sure exactly how stress works... [01:28] dougl: not sure, have never used it... just searched the repos for stress tests [01:29] SIR_Taco, K thanks [03:22] why is the iso so big? [03:34] Hey there, is there a task scheduler installed by default? I can't seem to find one [03:53] Anyone know where the task scheduler is in 12.10? Old posts for 12.10 said system settings task scheduler [03:53] I do not see it [04:06] What is the KDE administration module? I was looking to install kde-config-cron and it is mentioned in the description === raindog is now known as Guest67992 [05:24] Hey there, I need help with ssh. I am trying to set up ssh so I don't need a password when running rsync. I followed a 3 step guide, but now not only does it still ask for a password, but it says my password is wrong === chucknorris is now known as Guest47018 === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools === Guest47018 is now known as chuck_JR [05:51] bjrohan: do you use ssh keys or plaintext auth? [05:52] if the former, check if you have .ssh/authorized_keys and it has the right permissions [05:52] should be -rw-r--r-- [05:53] ( or 0644 ) === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [06:46] Morning .. [06:46] Hmmm. How can I upgrade a KUbuntu from the cli ? Anyone a link ? [06:55] Smurphy: sudo do-release-upgrade [07:01] i have forgotten, where can i change the key-combo for krunner? [07:02] almoxarife: System Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts. Or look for keyboard shortcuts in krunner. [07:09] lordievader: i have not seen key-short on krunner, you? i am using 4.9 [07:10] lordievader: it was where you first suggested though, thanks [07:10] almoxarife: Global Keyboard Shortcuts under Run Command Interface, second option. [07:10] lordievader: Yeah., Didn't work on my netBook. Probably I had made an upgrade with one of the last Beta's - and it already replaced what was required :D [07:10] yeap [07:12] kubuntu still under conical? [07:12] Doing the Update on the CLI on my mac mini. Last time I did it with the GUI - it didn't work : [07:12] } [07:14] You have to download a total of 1823 M. This download will take about [07:14] 21 minutes with your connection. [07:14] *lol* [07:44] Does kubuntu have any alternate isos for 12.10? [07:46] GirlyGirl: Perhaps this is what you are looking for: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ [07:47] GirlyGirl: no, if you need the text installer you'll have to use the mini.iso [07:48] yofel_: Any way do download all the .deb packages so that no download is necessary using the mini iso? [07:49] not that I know of, but maybe someone else does [07:50] as far as I have read - the reasons they do the huge ISO - is to have the alternate installer also on the same one ... === rick__ is now known as Name222 [07:52] Reasone for the Alternate image - is 384MiB :) ram ... [07:53] yofel_: Another question why is the iso so big, considering the additional packages are not that much? [07:54] They wanted to get away from the CD Size limitation - so people at the end of the workd wouldn't have to download the Office packages for 3 days by example. [07:55] that, and it allowed for some packaging hackery to be removed that was needed to somehow make everything fit into 700M === CosmicB is now known as CosmicB_at_EuroB === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [09:14] Hmm. Apart from that thelightdm could not load the regular user sessions (only a disabled one and the guest) after installing kdm and forcing it to be used - I can use my system as usual. [09:15] Smurphy: please report a bug on bugs.kde.org :) [09:17] SIR_Taco_: CPU work good on 3.6.2 [09:17] shadeslayer: Na. I circumvented it. Don't have time to create a login etc. to report just one bug. [09:18] Smurphy: but if you never report it, it won't get fixed soonish, or maybe upstream may never know about the issue [09:19] shadeslayer: I know. However I think I have given enough of my time to the KDE project in the past already ... :} say with KDE 1.0 release ... Damn ... That was harsh ! [09:20] :D [09:21] what is the point of a recovery shell, with user 'root', if config files are read only? [09:21] hi, is anyone using latest stable trinity desktop on precise? [09:22] i have a kubuntu installation for which X is now broken, in 12.04. i suspect i'm not alone in this. [09:24] jmichaelx: What device do you run it on ? It does not run on my ASUS EeePC because of the Graphic-Chipset in it. [09:25] Smurphy: i said that X is now broken, meaning that it had been working [09:26] jmichaelx: you can remount the rootfs as read write [09:26] Smurphy: for me, it is pretty much guaranteed that a recent update broke X. i get to KDM, log in, and go to a black screen, with a pointer [09:26] shadeslayer: yep, did that [09:27] i should take back what i said... X is working, it is apparently kwin that is not working === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:29] jmichaelx: Then it's not the X. It's the startup scripts. Note that an upgrade always replaces the /bin/sh link to dash. So it broke some of my stuff. [09:29] mv all your .kde stuff to a temporary location, and log in again. Should work. [09:30] Smurphy: i had just decided to do just that, but ty.... ny brain had been stuck the last few minutes [09:30] my* [09:30] :) === Guest10725 is now known as Mamarok === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk [09:31] Smurphy: is it just KDE that will not run on your eeepc? [09:31] nope - X Server won't start at all. [09:31] Running fine on my Mac mini though. [09:32] Smurphy: hmm, what chipset does your eeepc use? i have several of them, and they all run ubuntu [09:34] ok, i renamed .kde, and started KDM.... and ran into the same thing [09:34] jmichaelx: Cedarview chipset ... [09:34] somewhere a kubuntu update or two messed things up [09:34] jmichaelx: Weird. What does you .xsession-errors file show you ? [09:35] jmichaelx: Run it again from cli. [09:35] run what again? [09:36] the update - do see if something was messed up. [09:36] Smurphy: yea, i have no network, since KDE will not start [09:36] * Smurphy has taken the habit to initiate majore updates from the console - cause that way - you won't get a screwed update when something does not wor. [09:36] jmichaelx: WLan ??? *sucks* [09:36] Smurphy: i do all updates from the command line. always have. [09:36] try running 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' anyway, if that returns nothing the update should've been fine [09:37] Smurphy: yep, wlan [09:37] yofel: that's not my problem [09:38] and ~/.xsession-errors has no useful information? [09:38] i should just ditch network manager, but right now i would have to look up again how to connect to my WAP using WPA2, without network manager [09:39] yofel: i'm not seeing anything that looks wrong (to me). X starts, but kwin does not. [09:39] jmichaelx: I know the drill. [09:39] wpa_supplicant, but I don't remember the exact way to do it :/ [09:39] BTW - try creating a new user and log in through that one. [09:39] yofel: yea, i have done it before, but it's been a while [09:39] jmichaelx: Or - you could just stop the kdm - and start X from the command line: startx [09:39] Smurphy: yea, X starts the way it is, but i don't think kwin is starting [09:40] i work on networks as a part of my living... but i don't know how to do wpa_supplicant without looking in up o_O [09:40] jmichaelx: Did you go to the console, stop KDM, and issue as user: startx ? [09:41] Smurphy: no, but i can go ahead and do that [09:41] Smurphy: what would be the point of doing that? [09:42] jmichaelx: I removes the possibility of any Login managers to mess with your config. [09:42] Hi all, I have a graphics problem. I am suing "NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1)". I could not install nvidia-173 from jockey. It says "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.". But experimental installs fine. But jockey says "installed. but driver not in use" . Can any one suggest some thing [09:42] suing = using* [09:43] :) [09:43] vadrao: do NOT sue your video adapter... although the idea may be tempting at times [09:43] jmichaelx: hahaha :) [09:43] ok, using is better [09:44] Smurphy: startx gives me a black screen. no point or anything. [09:45] If you hit just X - as root - what does it do ? [09:45] Start X as root, send it to the back ground, export DISPLAY=:0.0 [09:45] and start a Konsole or xterm or whatever providing you a console on the X Window env. [09:46] Then in the console/xterm, start kwin - to see where it crashes ... [09:46] Smurphy: i think i should instead get network going, apply available updates, and see whether or not that fixes anything [09:47] but first, i should go to bed. been up all night [09:48] if i get wireless going, i may just upgrade to quantal, and give it a shot from there [09:49] yeah. I'll go to lunch in 5 ... [09:52] hello, how to add few attach to comment on bug? [09:52] in launchpad of course [09:58] Smurphy: ahh, cedarview... your eeepc is a generation or two newer than the ones i have [09:58] * jmichaelx has atom-based machines all over the plave [09:58] place* [10:00] * jmichaelx just managed to run updates. crosses fingers. [10:01] * jmichaelx cusses [10:01] kubuntu screwed something up. i have a feeling i won't be along on this. [10:01] alone* [10:01] c'est la vie [10:27] goodmorning [10:27] italiano english!?!?? [10:27] !it [10:27] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [10:28] ok [10:31] Current serial number in output stream: 303 [10:35] I have a problem dudes, trying to install a game with wine am told that : fixme:shell:SHChangeNotify ignoring unsupported flags: 2001 [10:35] fixme:shell:SHChangeNotify ignoring unsupported flags: 2001 [10:35] fixme:shell:SHChangeNotify ignoring unsupported flags: 2001 [10:35] fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented. [10:35] fixme:shell:SHChangeNotify ignoring unsupported flags: 2001 [10:35] un2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. === jonah is now known as Guest37520 [10:38] hi guys i'm getting some funky behaviour from vmware, even after patching for 12.10. When vmware asks me for root password it says it's wrong and also shows Home directory /home/user not ours when it's starting up... does anyone know how i can fix this. thanks === david is now known as Guest87383 [11:08] ubuntu-it [11:09] buongiorno [11:23] for ubuntu it?!? [11:26] hi [11:26] im upgrading to 12.10 :) === CosmicB_at_EuroB is now known as CosmicB_at_BSDco === CosmicB_at_BSDco is now known as CosmicB === Vito_away is now known as Vito [12:20] error: sparse file not found. Press any key to continue. [12:21] Shows up when booting. I know its cause of btrfs. But, any patch or updates to fix it? [12:27] gits1225: iirc that doesn't really break anything so I usually just ignore it [12:27] boot continues after a moment anyway [12:27] w/o pressing any key? [12:28] yes, pressing a key just makes it continue right away [12:30] k [12:38] I was running 'stress' and doing system update adn my 12.04 hung and when I restarted adn finnished the update my user's desktop is incomplete (no task bar and no desktop background) any suggestions? [12:39] dougl: mm alt f2 [12:39] plasma-desktop [12:39] is running ? [12:40] Peace-, mm alt f2 = ? Sorry I don't understand [12:41] dougl: run system monitor [12:41] dougl: see if plasma-desktop is running or not [12:42] lemme shell in... there is nothing I can do from the screen that contains the blank default kubuntu wallpaper... [12:43] dougl: if you press ALT F2 keys KRUNNER should appear [12:44] Peace-, alt f2 is un responsive [12:44] dougl: CRTL ESC ? [12:44] and cannot see plasma-desktop in top from ssh [12:44] CRTL ESC unresponsive [12:45] dougl: can you run plasma-desktop in some ways ? [12:46] your system is not running kwin and plasma-desktop [12:46] that is problem [12:46] lol - I knew there was some sort of problem... I have ssh access and... [12:47] Anyone here syncing their Google Apps mail, calendar and contacts with Kontact / Aonadi? [12:47] and console access [12:48] monkeyhybrid: i guess i did one tme [12:48] Peace-, not sure what to do. [12:48] did it work reliably, Peace-? [12:48] dougl: you need to run in the konsole or your terminal plasma-desktop & kwin --replace [12:49] monkeyhybrid: it's so much time i don't try [12:49] monkeyhybrid: Hav owncloud at home for that. [12:51] Smurphy: I have been playing with ownCloud a bit too. I love the idea of it. Have you had any problems with it so far? [12:52] Peace-, plasma-desktop & kwin --replace @ ssh and on local ncurse login = 'kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display [12:52] QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. [12:52] plasma-desktop(3618): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11"' [12:53] dougl: mmm you need to set DISPLAY=SOMETHING [12:53] dougl: but i dunno if with ssh you coudl do that [12:54] dougl: you coudl rename your $HOME/.kde [12:54] dougl: and login logout [12:54] monkeyhybrid: It is not aaas stable as I'd like it to be 9It does nto crash). But the Calendar Sharing options are still a bit shaggy [12:55] dougl: qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 0 0 #should logout [12:55] hmm, that's kind of what I have found so far too, Smurphy. I have high hopes for it but I can't use it for proper work yet [12:55] Smurphy: The Android apps for it are pretty good though. [12:55] Peace-, yes I used to use the display command when starting mythtv on remote display or remote machine - forget the syntax - lol [12:56] dougl: DISPLAY=:1 or DISPLAY=:0 i dunno [12:56] monkeyhybrid: Could be ... but Snow-Leopard Calendar is a pain on the Shared Calendars ... [12:57] Peace-, yeah that is it. [12:57] renamed .kde for now [12:57] Smurphy: ah ok. Seeing as you're an OS X user, any idea if OS X syncs with calendars / contacts on Google Apps ok? [12:59] monkeyhybrid: Nope. Can't tell,a s we - Wife and Girls (3) only use private stuff. Social Medias as these are called - we don't care. [12:59] Smurphy: Basically, I have given in to using Google Apps for mail, contacts and calendar. Currently using Thunderbird as an email client but would like to be using the KPIM tools if they are stable with Google Apps sync nowadays. But would need something for Mac clients.... [13:00] yep. well - My wife and the girls are using Mac's - me 2 - but Hardware only, running KUbuntu 12.10 on my mac mini |:} [13:00] Smurphy: oki doki, good to hear you're getting on with ownCloud then. I really hope that becomes a lot more polished over the next few releases [13:01] me too. [13:02] Smurphy: I have to get a Mac soon for iOS development but still think KDE is the best DE ever so can't let it go... :) I will end up with a new beefy laptop for Linux and a Macbook Pro for OS X I think [13:03] Smurphy: I could always have KDE in a VM but that would just feel so wrong, lol. [13:04] yup. Having here roughly 10 Computers running in the household. Using the Macs reduces Admin-Tasks trmendously ... [13:04] and - I can alwyas do what I want on mine. [13:05] Peace-, that gives me limited desktop... task bar with no widgets, right button click menu on desktop, desktop button in the upper right... did the plasma-desktop & kwin --replace in a konsole window on my desktop and nothing much happend to the desktop... [13:05] about half the window had status messages tho... [13:05] no errors [13:06] Smurphy: so do you dual-boot Kubuntu with OS X on your Mac? Or have you totally scubbed OS X? [13:06] dougl: are you before the computer ? [13:06] dougl: if yes you can add the default panel ? [13:07] I have OS-X for some things like a decent Teamviewer support (It's still wine based under linux I guess) to help my relatives, but the partition is small ... 98GB from 1TB. [13:08] The rest is on 50GB Root partition, 50GB Cryptfs Partition, rest Media. [13:08] and all kept in sync with the NAS. [13:09] dougl: btw i have to go :} [13:10] coool. kept in sync with the NAS using ownCloud? [13:10] Peace-, thanks for the help = take care === jonas_ is now known as Guest37354 [13:12] Hiyas all [13:12] BluesKaj, hello :) [13:12] BluesKaj, help :) [13:12] hi dougl [13:12] lol [13:13] whta's up , dougl ? [13:13] err what's up :) [13:14] +1 ? [13:14] BluesKaj, you familiar with a package called 'stress' to test kubuntu machines? [13:14] dougl: reompile the kernel with option -j - and you'll do the best stress test you can do ... :} [13:14] dougl, I've heard there was one , but never tried it. [13:17] I did a 'stress -c 2k -i 2k' which is loading the cpu and io as I understand it... and at the same time i did a system update and machine hung and restart and finish update my user login is messed... no wallpaper, no effects - ssh in and look at home dir and all looks good - any thots? [13:17] BluesKaj, ^^^ [13:17] :} [13:17] At least the kernel compilation does not hang my machine. Getting slower, yes ... [13:18] my stress test is if all the hardware drivers work the way they're supposed to with media apps etc, then I'm satisfied ..office suites etc no longer apply since I'm primarily a home user [13:18] Smurphy, I can't even do a sytem update and you want me to recompile the kernel... there's asking for trouble - lol [13:18] :} [13:19] dougl: Any messages showing up - why it crashed / [13:19] ? [13:19] yeah I shoulda known better than to fix what wsa not broken... fekkin windows was rebootin on that machine all the time (gaming) on one of the kids so I wanted to check it with a real OS and heres where I am - lol [13:20] Smurphy, that is the thing - no crash [13:20] err - do you mean the hang while fekkin around? [13:20] yup. My advice. Take that machine apart, and back together. Vacuum all the dust out of it. This will put back the contacts, and it'll work after. Doing that on a 2 Year cycle here [13:21] dougl: yup. The hang :) [13:23] Smurphy, no messages on the hang... teardown/cleanup = good advice... did it last week when we replaced the nvidia that was having fan issues... err last month now I guess. [13:24] will do it next week. Just ordered a couple GTX 660Ti OC for my fiwe and my gaming computers :)_ [13:24] s/fiwe/wife/g :} [13:25] Smurphy, what kind of powersupply you use for the dual 660 machine? [13:26] err - 2 machines? [13:26] It is not a dual 660 Machine. My wife and I do each have a gaqming computer - as we are both Power Gamers. [13:26] We met while playing left 4 dead :) *rofl* in the middle of a Zombie massacre :D [13:27] gotcha - my son is the gamer (one 560ti)... there is a story for the kids... [13:27] And - I also ordered 2 1TB HD's - as we are going to add Linux to the WIn7 setup on these boxes (Steam comes out on Linux ...). [13:27] don't play so many games you may get married... [13:28] *rofl* [13:28] We still play, and we still have a trmendous relationshipt going on. Best choice I ever made ! :} [13:28] when steam comes out on linux = lots of games? [13:29] UP to now - 24 officially planned (already done actually). [13:29] mine craft? [13:30] no idea. [13:30] or mind craft... or what ever it is called - lol [13:30] I am not a gamer at all [13:30] http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/ [13:30] I am - always was :) [13:31] 46 here how old are you? [13:31] 43... MY wie is 46 :) [13:31] s/wie/wife/g [13:31] surprising - still gaming = good for you guys [13:32] Smurphy: Me and my girlfriend met in LfD too! 3 and a bit years now :) [13:32] yup :) [13:32] I play a strategy game , only because wife wanted an ally , but otherwise I'm not much of a gamer [13:32] *rofl* yeah... Way to go :) [13:32] http://stargate.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=blog&user=2 [13:32] :} [13:33] need for speed 3 was the last family game on PC... wow too [13:33] as in warcraft [13:33] no time anymore [13:33] Never played wow ... I come from the Wing Commander side. Flight Simulators, and of course Doom, Quake, UT all versions :) [13:33] you guys look very happy together :) [13:34] monkeyhybrid: We are - still now :) [13:34] duke nukem [13:34] that one too ... [13:34] monkeyhybrid: People say we have a Symbiotic, Parasitic relation :) [13:35] lol [13:35] we always hang out together. If one of us is drunk, the other one is drunk too :} [13:35] http://stargate.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=blog&user=2 nice [13:36] yeah :) [13:37] pfff ... Just going through the TODO List and enhancement requests of my site ... pfffff ... [13:37] *hide* *duck* [13:37] In view or recent event I am afraid to do update on my main machine... [13:37] Hi people, is the new kubuntu stable? [13:37] Have to do it one of these days ... [13:37] kroson: Compared to Windows ? yes. [13:37] kroson, so far so good [13:38] in case you have a Cedarview graphic chip - don't use it. === david is now known as Guest90389 [13:39] where is the kernel module blacklist again ? [13:39] Want to try some thing. [13:42] i was thinking it was in the etc folder but cant find it [13:43] it's in the /etc/modprobe.d directory [13:43] yep, just found [13:44] do you know of a good google voice app [13:51] I think I am just gonna install 12.10 and hope for the best [13:53] can i ask about upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 here? [13:53] !upgrade [13:53] For upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu [13:54] its just i heard there is a problem with manual partitions? I have 5 on my laptop and am thinking about a fresh install [13:55] !releasenote [13:56] my 12.10 dvd does not even boot on that box [13:57] Peace-: i as hoping to chat to someone about it, i have looked at the release notes and the known feedback issues [13:59] Wonder if it will work. did put the gma500_gfx into the blacklist ... [13:59] Hmmmm. gma500_gfx in the blacklist, gma500_gfx gets loaded anyway ... What am I missing ??? [14:00] Smurphy: mm ? [14:00] Smurphy: sure that the file is the one ? [14:00] Smurphy, is that the proper name fro the module ? [14:00] natman: i am in 12.10 from alpha :D here it working nice === Guest90389 is now known as d_ed [14:01] smurphy@EeePC:~$ lsmod | grep gma500_gfx [14:01] gma500_gfx 187730 1 [14:01] drm_kms_helper 45271 1 gma500_gfx [14:01] drm 230463 2 gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper [14:01] i2c_algo_bit 13197 1 gma500_gfx [14:01] Smurphy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:01] video 18847 1 gma500_gfx [14:01] Smurphy: sudo rmmond gma500_gfx ? [14:01] omg [14:01] Smurphy: sudo rmmod gma500_gfx ? [14:01] :} [14:02] Peace-: cool!, its been years since ive done an upgrade ( rather than fresh install ) , [14:02] natman: remove ppa is a duty [14:02] # grep gma500_gfx /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [14:02] Peace-: sorry dont get ya? [14:02] blacklist gma500_gfx [14:03] :} SO - it is in ... [14:03] natman: make sure you have not ppa enabled if you want upgrade [14:03] Hi, is there already a way to make a ubuntu 12.10 bootable usb stick in windows? thanks [14:03] Just gives me a: ERROR: Module drm_kms_helper is in use by gma500_gfx [14:04] Smurphy: so... drm_kms is the one you need to remove [14:04] first [14:04] kroson: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ [14:04] kroson> Hi, is there already a way to make a ubuntu 12.10 bootable usb stick in windows? thanks or mac or linux? [14:04] Smurphy, probly have to drop to atty stop X and then blaclklist [14:04] Tried. Won't do... [14:04] Smurphy: i hope you know hwat you are doing [14:04] ERROR: Module gma500_gfx is in use [14:04] ERROR: Module drm_kms_helper is in use by gma500_gfx [14:05] Any way I can see which module is actually using the gma500_gfx drivers / [14:05] ? [14:06] natman, you know you can make a 12.10 bootable stick with the informaiton on http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ ? [14:06] performing a remote jockey start ... [14:06] stop X in the tty and then blacklist it , it won't blacklist while it's in use [14:06] won't work ... [14:06] BluesKaj: That is the problem. X does not even work !!! [14:07] It's a Cedarview chipset being used ... [14:07] uhoh [14:08] Will try to upgrade the BIOS. Seem I have some ghost-devices ... 4 Screens while only 3 are valid ... [14:08] dougl: ya, and said stick is sitting on my desk!, but the devil inside me wants to risk an online update [14:09] natman, lol... do the update [14:09] natman, have you partitioned yet [14:09] Smurphy: Instead of rmmod, have you tried sudo modprobe -r gma500_gfx [14:10] dougl: BluesKaj laptop currently is running Kubuntu 12.04 with 5 parititions ( win7, reco, / , /home, swap ) and im happy with all the sizes [14:12] natman, going to do an internet upgrade ? [14:12] time for a usb HD natman [14:12] I don't bother with a swap partition since it's a primary , so a swap file does the job instead [14:13] genii-around: Does not work. It needs it to display anything ... [14:13] gotta run guys and gals - thanks for the chat :) [14:13] BluesKaj: perhaps, as in letting muon take care of it for me, but worry about some issues, #parititions and desktop effects [14:13] dougl: bye [14:16] pfff. wanted to update the Bios. Found out it is the latest already, and now Windows has to apply 9 Updates ... :( [14:16] Hate windows. [14:16] natman, if you're going to chance an internet upgrade, back up your data first. [14:17] Smurphy: using windows 8? [14:17] natman, if you upgrade via something like do-release-upgrade in the terminal, it shouldn't mess with your partitions [14:17] natman, either way, data backup time! [14:17] you told me that kubuntu was more stable than windows, in what senses? [14:17] kroson: Nope. never. dual boot on my netbook. [14:18] The Windows 7 on the Netbook is actually the one I use to manage the firmware of all devices (Radio control transmitters etc.). But I want to ahve linux on it too,. [14:18] natman, muon is ok , but a sudo do-release-upgrade is more direct , guis for an OS upgrade go against my grain [14:18] Smurphy: how would you compare the current kde to the current unity? [14:19] BluesKaj, do-release-upgrade, or do-release-upgrade -d ? [14:19] BluesKaj, i know when 12.04 rolled out, they needed do-release-upgrade -d [14:19] or w/e it was [14:19] TheLordOfTime,, -d is for development [14:19] BluesKaj, 11.10 -> 12.04 needed that, not sure why even after stable release [14:20] * TheLordOfTime greps the release notes [14:20] 12.10 is already released [14:21] BluesKaj, so was 12.04 [14:21] BluesKaj, 11.10 -> 12.04, even after LTS release, needed -d [14:21] which is why i'm sifting the release notes now [14:21] kroson: Me ? NEver liked Unity or Gnome. Sticking with KDE since pre 1.0 release... [14:22] TheLordOfTime, ok , well try it both ways ...see which one works :) [14:24] BluesKaj, it should just be `do-release-upgrade` [14:24] with sudo of course [14:24] (had to dig into the server release notes to find that one, the release notes suggest to use GUIs instead for Ubuntu and Kubuntu and variants) === skywalker is now known as Guest67444 [14:28] TheLordOfTime, , well, that's for terminal-phobic users [14:28] indeed :P [14:29] i'm with you, use the terminal and sudo do-release-upgrade :P [14:31] Hey there, I need help with ssh. I am trying to set up ssh so I don't need a password when running rsync. I followed a 3 step guide, but now not only does it still ask for a password, but it says my password is wrong [14:31] I'm no linux guru, but I do prefer the terminal over guis unless there's a restart buffer for those with poor internet connections in the muon or whatever gui === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [14:34]