[02:12] <Users> I have my AOD270 installed with lubuntu, but the GMA3600 drivers called cedarview did work.
[02:13] <Users> Any one can help?
[02:17] <kanliot> for 12.04 you might not need cedarview, but that's just from reading a bit
[02:20] <kanliot> http://askubuntu.com/a/180326/21503
[02:24] <Users> reading,...
[02:26] <ambjorn> Hello lubuntu folks.  Just installed Lubuntu 12.10 and having some trouble with drivers.  The drivers for my wireless card and for my graphics card didn't install automatically, and I don't see a shortcut for getting them ("install drivers")
[02:27] <kanliot> ambjorn first time installing lubuntu?
[02:27] <kanliot> or ubuntu?
[02:27] <kanliot> on that pc?
[02:27] <ambjorn> No, but I was with Mint for while this year.
[02:27] <ambjorn> Not at all the first time installing ubuntu on this pc.
[02:28] <ambjorn> I've done a little bit of distro-hopping since the introduction of Unity.
[02:28] <ambjorn> Wait, might have found it
[02:31] <ambjorn> No, there's a package called 'additional drivers' in the software centre, but it's tied to KDE...
[02:32] <kanliot> so is your wireless not working?
[02:32] <kanliot> 1 thing at  a time
[02:32] <ambjorn> Wireless not working
[02:33] <ambjorn> No
[02:33] <kanliot> and there's probably better people to ask in #ubuntu and on the forums
[02:33] <ambjorn> Ok, I'm still rooting around in the repos
[02:33] <kanliot> lspci -nn |grep netw
[02:33] <ambjorn> I assume the drivers are all there, and that the GUI front end was just a convenience
[02:35] <ambjorn> What output should I expect from that, kanliot?
[02:37] <kanliot> huh it migth be net instead of netw
[02:37] <kanliot> trying to id your wireless hardware
[02:38] <ambjorn> Got it
[02:38] <ambjorn> Unfortunately, that only returns the ethernet controller
[02:38] <ambjorn> The system isn't recognising the card at all
[02:39] <ambjorn> I can find the exact version, but it's a broadcom card
[02:40] <kanliot> try ireless instead of netw
[02:40] <ambjorn> ireless?
[02:40] <ambjorn> There it is
[02:41] <ambjorn> Broadcom BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n
[02:42] <ambjorn> The terminal emulator that comes with lubuntu really is bare bones.
[02:42] <kanliot> did you update
[02:42] <kanliot> after installing
[02:42] <Users> try terminator.
[02:43] <ambjorn> I did kanliot, I mean I went into the software updater and verified I was up to date
[02:45] <ambjorn> thanks Users, checking it out
[02:48] <kanliot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979460  this guy was able to solve his bcm4322
[02:48] <kanliot> issues
[02:49] <ambjorn> Checking it out, kanliot
[02:49] <ambjorn> And thanks for lending me a hand, I appreciate it
[02:49] <kanliot> hehe
[02:50] <kanliot> dont' feel loyal, you should ask otherplaces if i can't help
[02:51] <ambjorn> I think I may have found the right wireless driver in the repos...
[02:51] <kanliot> you should write down everything you do
[02:52] <kanliot> so you know where you are
[02:52] <ambjorn> good idea
[02:53] <kanliot> i just found a page that said it definitely should have been in additional drivers
[02:54] <kanliot> did you open additional drivers under preferences?
[02:56] <ambjorn> No, that's where my problem started
[02:56] <ambjorn> It didn't show up in the menu
[02:56] <kanliot> it should be under preferences
[02:57] <ambjorn> Yes, that's where I expected it
[02:57] <kanliot> what iso did you download
[02:57] <kanliot> adn this is 12.10, right?
[02:58] <Users> some says in 12.10 additional drivers option is intergated with software source
[02:58] <ambjorn> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/lubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[02:58] <ambjorn> that's the iso I downloaded
[02:58] <kanliot> users  what's that?
[02:58] <ambjorn> the torrent version
[02:58] <kanliot> i dont understand
[02:59] <ambjorn> That's the full address
[02:59] <kanliot> yeah
[02:59] <Users> http://www.ithome.com/html/it/27757.htm
[03:00] <Users> http://img.ithome.com/newsuploadfiles/2012/10/20121015_141856_129.jpg
[03:00] <kanliot> ok that's good info
[03:00] <kanliot> thx users
[03:01] <ambjorn> Yeah, thank you.  I would never have thought to look for it there!
[03:01] <Users> I am still downloading the ISO image of lubuntu, can't tell what is happening
[03:03] <ambjorn> Looks to me that you found what's happening, which is that I just didn't know where to look to install drivers in Lubuntu
[03:04] <kanliot> well i have documented the moving
[03:04] <kanliot> and i was runnign 12.10, but additional drivers was there, so they must have moved it after i installed it
[03:05] <ambjorn> I hope I haven't borked anything up by installing drivers directly from the repos
[03:05] <kanliot> i donno
[03:05] <ambjorn> It's be a pain to have to reinstall the system now I've got all my packages set up
[03:06] <Users> It is really confusing
[03:07] <Users> wow,the new lubuntu 12.10 is beautiful
[03:07] <ambjorn> It's good looking, isn't it?
[03:07] <Users> I love the small square icon of chromium
[03:08] <kanliot> you should email the mailing list
[03:08] <kanliot> i know an artist who would love to hear that
[03:09] <Users> will, soon
[03:09] <ambjorn> All right, thanks for your help so far, folks.  I'm going to see how things work on restart...
[03:18] <ambjorn> Getting there!
[03:18] <ambjorn> Now here's an interesting thing I hadn't noticed before: the NVidia driver seriously degrades the beauty of the chrome
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[03:21] <ambjorn> Hi ActionParsnip
[03:21] <kanliot> sup
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> does the Lubuntu ISO use the non-pae by default?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> in the 12.10 release?
[03:22] <Unit193> ActionParsnip: There is no "non-PAE" in 12.10.
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> so it was dropped?
[03:23] <Unit193> Yep, in the release notes.
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> is there a work around for the usual pae not found boot error?
[03:23] <Unit193> !notes
[03:24] <Unit193> ActionParsnip: Not a supported one, except use 12.04, upgrade computers, or switch distros.
[03:24] <Unit193> (Technically, you can use an alternate kernel, but not easy or supported)
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> gah
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> thanks dude
[03:43] <ambjorn> Hello again, I've got most of drivers working, I think, but don't seem to be able to configure my laptop's touchpad.  I always have trouble finding these configuration options.  Anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> ambjorn: what make and model system?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> ambjorn: is it a sony vaio?
[03:44] <kanliot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse#Touchpad_settings
[03:45] <viniciusarq> hello
[03:45] <kanliot> if something specific is missing from that page lemme know
[03:45] <viniciusarq> has anyone updated to 12.10?
[03:46] <kanliot> viniciusarq, not exactly
[03:47] <kanliot> no
[03:48] <viniciusarq> update manager says ubuntu 12.10 i'm not sure if updating it, it won't get me ubuntu instead of lubuntu
[03:49] <kanliot> huh i donno
[03:49] <kanliot> but i doubt you will get unity
[03:49] <kanliot> you can quote me on that
[03:50] <Users> IntelGMA3600 is a totally disaster on linux platform
[03:51] <Users> It needs too much lucky to get it work
[04:12] <Users> lubuntu 12.10 failed to start GUI on my AOD270
[04:12] <Users> just now
[04:13] <Users> maybe I should give up and turn back to ubuntu
[04:16] <Users> lubuntu 12.04 impressed me with the performance, hope new ubuntu 12.10 does the same.
[04:17] <kanliot> it's possible you will have similar problems with ubuntu 12.10
[04:17] <kanliot> if you do, please report them
[04:18] <ambjorn> kanliot, it's hard sometimes to know what needs a report
[04:20] <ambjorn> Thanks for your help guys, I'm off
[04:20] <kanliot> nn
[04:21] <Users> looks that almost all problems share one topic: drivers
[04:28] <ekaj> If I have a computer running lubuntu plugged into a monitor, is it going to flip out if I unplug the monitor?
[04:29] <kanliot> rgb?
[04:29] <ekaj> ? vga
[04:29] <kanliot> you're supposed to turn the pc off
[04:29] <kanliot> i forget why
[04:29] <ekaj> ..
[04:29] <kanliot> i cant remember
[04:30] <kanliot> mainly hardware
[04:30] <kanliot> so you don't have to repleace your video card
[04:35] <Users> maybe my luck runs out, Ubuntu 12.10 crashed on my AOD270
[04:36] <Users> even CUI failed to startup!
[04:57] <Users> still have work to do, thanks, off
[06:29] <frenchh> hi
[06:29] <frenchh> bonjour
[06:30] <frenchh> j'ai besoin d'aide !
[06:30] <Unit193> Howdy.
[06:30] <Unit193> !fr | frenchh
[06:30] <frenchh> ok
[06:30] <frenchh> i need help
[06:30] <frenchh> :-)
[06:30] <frenchh> i can't make my keyboard in french
[06:31] <Unit193> Well, you could always try the French channels, or here in English.
[06:31] <Unit193> Tried something like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 ?
[06:33] <frenchh> ok i try it
[06:34] <frenchh> thanks
[06:34] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:52] <frenchh> how to edit  this file : open file /etc/default/keyboard
[06:52] <frenchh> i don't know how to open it  en root mode
[06:53] <Unit193> Open a terminal (Accessories>Lxterminal) and type gksudo leafpad /etc/default/keyboard
[06:55] <frenchh> cool i did it
[06:55] <frenchh> i restart to see if it works
[06:55] <frenchh> thanks Unit193  !!!
[06:56] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[08:35] <sb1980> anyone having trouble with flashplayer after update to 12.10 too?
[09:20] <half-duplex> no sb1980, but I do clean installs
[09:55] <sb1980> its getting even worse now. i've seen that some packages were not properly installed, but nvidia-current seems to cause problems
[10:14] <CXIV> Anyone knows solution for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obconf/+bug/1059543
[10:23] <kanliot> did you try with diff widget themes
[10:24] <CXIV> Sure :)
[10:25] <CXIV> When I disable antialising then it's ok
[10:27] <CXIV> I got a workaround , changing pixel geometry from default RGB to "none"
[10:28] <kanliot> did you add that tyo the bug report
[10:28] <CXIV> I will
[10:48] <CXIV> I think it will work for everyone
[13:17] <elderman> Hello, I am having trouble configuring my touchpad in Lubuntu 12.10.  There are no configuration options as far as I can tell.  The problem's similar to bug 527890, except that the touchpad's recognised correctly and has most functions.  I want to get rid of tap to click.  This is the first time I've had trouble with my touchpad on an Ubuntu variant.
[13:18] <elderman> Oh, and a question: can anyone help?
[13:19] <Movado> Hello guys. I installed Lubuntu 12.10 Today. I like simplicity, but also I have some questions. My laptop is Asus A53S. I have two graphic cards: Intel and Nvidia. I read about optimus nonsense. So I decided that I will use Intel graphic drivers. They installed by default or not?
[13:20] <elderman> Movado, I learned a bit about graphics drivers in Lubuntu last night when I was installing.  I'm not knowledgeable, but I might be able to point you in the right direction while you're waiting for someone else to come along.
[13:21] <elderman> Have you found the 'additional drivers' tab?
[13:21] <Movado> Okay can we talk about it? I have some newbie questions. I don't want to flame it
[13:21] <Movado> let's talk it in private
[14:01] <ekaj> I made a directory in / using mkdir, but it isn't showing up... Why would that be?
[14:03] <infectedorganism> need root to create a folder there i believe
[14:04] <infectedorganism> so.. just 'sudo mkdir foldername' and you should be good
[15:09] <truexfan81> #ubuntu told me i could get some kubuntu help here
[15:09] <elderman> No, sorry, I meant that this a ghost town too
[15:09] <truexfan81> oh lol
[15:09] <elderman> #ubuntu is the most active
[15:10] <truexfan81> elderman: i'm trying to get gtk apps to look right in kde, but the themes applied in GTK+ Appearance don't seem to be being applied
[15:11] <elderman> You're trying to get them to look like KDE apps?
[15:11] <truexfan81> as close as possible
[15:11] <truexfan81> hexchat for example, right now looks like a win95 app lol
[15:11] <elderman> In my limited experience, mixing DEs is a recipe for frustration.
[15:13] <elderman> I've never tried to do what you're doing truexfan81, but perhaps this would help? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK-Qt
[15:13] <elderman> Or something like it?
[15:14] <elderman> truexfan81, and this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_Qt_and_GTK_Applications
[15:18] <pibarnas> great release.
[15:42] <elderman> Hello, I am having trouble configuring my touchpad in Lubuntu 12.10.  There are no configuration options as far as I can tell.  The problem's similar to bug 527890, except that the touchpad's recognised correctly and has most functions.  I want to get rid of tap to click.  This is the first time I've had trouble with my touchpad on an Ubuntu variant.  Can anyone help me get the touchpad driver working?
[17:13] <downwash> Good evening
[17:13] <downwash> Anyone familiar with GRUB 2?
[17:14] <TheLordOfTime> downwash:  to what extent do you need?
[17:14] <TheLordOfTime> downwash:  you may need the grub support channel if we can't help
[17:14] <downwash> I'm in the grub-rescue prompt after upgrading to 12.10
[17:15] <downwash> set the prefix right (I think), but still getting "file not found" when trying insmod
[17:16] <downwash> Prefix is (hd0,5)/boot/grub (as according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting )
[17:16] <downwash> root is (hd0,5)
[17:17] <downwash> But trying the "linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sdXY ro" command doesn't work
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> downwash:  you realize X Y are variable right?
[17:19] <downwash> Yes, sda5 here
[17:19] <TheLordOfTime> downwash:  did you try that?
[17:19] <downwash> Error is "Unknown command 'linux'"
[17:19] <downwash> (yes, I did try that)
[17:20] <TheLordOfTime> did you try the boot repair method it suggests via the livecd?
[17:21] <downwash> Well I only have a 12.04 livecd here, which seems to run into trouble finding the servers
[17:21] <downwash> It's looking for the QQ version, I guess
[17:21] <downwash> Ehh, PP
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> the precise servers exist :P
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> that points to a networking issue on the Live environment (which is why i keep ethernet nearby ;P)
[17:22] <downwash> Lemme boot the CD again
[17:22] <TheLordOfTime> i have to disappear to class, unfortunately, dude, so i will have to say you may need to wait for someone to stop by
[17:23] <TheLordOfTime> if all else fails, there's always #ubuntu (you can still get grub fix support there, but they may point you to the grub channel)
[17:23] <downwash> k, thanks for the help so far
[17:30] <downwash> Hmm, it appears to be working now. Apparently I somehow forgot to connect first time around. Nice going downwash.
[17:36] <downwash> W00t, booting again. Thanks a load!
[17:38] <downwash> While I'm here, an entirely unrelated question: is template support still planned for PCmanFM 1.1, and is there an expected time of arrival of 1.1?
[19:01] <Mr__> holy shit did you guys screw up this release
[19:01] <Mr__> good god
[19:02] <Mr__> worried too much about the new friggin icons instead of having stuff working
[19:03] <Mr__> problem #1     proprietary drivers don't work and the new additional drivers in the software source is broke
[19:04] <Unit193> Please keep it family friendly, and the new drivers doesn't have a thing to do with the lubuntu team. :P
[19:04] <Mr__> problem #2    clicking or trying to launch pcmanfm directly doesn't work, only works if you open another directory, doesn't open directly though
[19:04] <Mr__> uhm the software sources and additional drivers not working correctly certainly does
[19:05] <Unit193> Mr__: Not the *Lubuntu* team, that's something that comes from the parent Ubuntu.
[19:05] <Mr__> and this graphics card i have is a 2 gig ati video card.... if thats not supported then thats ridiculous
[19:05] <NUCLEARWINTER> boohoo
[19:05] <NUCLEARWINTER> buy nvidia card
[19:05] <NUCLEARWINTER> their propietary drivers are better than ATI's
[19:05] <NUCLEARWINTER> next
[19:06] <Mr__> didn't you hear torvalds
[19:06] <Mr__> fuck nvidia
[19:06] <Mr__> and thats not a solution shithead
[19:06] <Unit193> !language | Mr__
[19:06] <wxl> i agree, not a solution
[19:06] <NUCLEARWINTER> next curse word and +q
[19:06] <wxl> but i also agree, that's not a way to get your problem solved
[19:06] <Mr__> wxl, well asking question in here only gets a smart a** response
[19:06] <Unit193> Try jockey-text from the terminal.
[19:06] <Mr__> so what am i supposed to do
[19:07] <yngve> Hi, my DNS is not working after upgrading lubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10 :-(
[19:07] <yngve> Have someone else the same problem?
[19:07] <wxl> Mr__: it doesn't seem to me (and i'm pretty level headed about this whole thing) that you're just asking a question. let me know when you do that and maybe we can figure this out.
[19:07] <yngve> This is the problem described http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12304815
[19:07] <wxl> yngve: your dns server? or what? specifics, please.
[19:07] <wxl> ooh thx
[19:07] <Mr__> wxl, pcmanfm doesn't launch directly
[19:08] <yngve> I can't look up any DNS from Lubuntu
[19:08] <wxl> Mr__: i cannot confirm that problem. i get the exact opposite. if you run it from terminal, what output do you get?
[19:08] <yngve> ip's I can ping but not a domain
[19:08] <NUCLEARWINTER> yngve, nano /etc/resolv.conf and line: nameserver 8.8.4.4 for example
[19:08] <Mr__> wxl, nothing no error or anything, it just doesn't open
[19:08] <Unit193> !resolvconf | yngve
[19:09] <Mr__> wxl, however if i open it as root it does open
[19:09] <Unit193> NUCLEARWINTER: That's a symlink to an autogenerated file, it'll have 127.0.0.1 due to dnsmasq cache stuff.
[19:09] <yngve> Thanks Unit193 and ubottu I will check it out right a way!
[19:09] <wxl> Mr__: what output do you get running it from terminal as root?
[19:09] <NUCLEARWINTER> Unit193, trolololoooo :--)
[19:10] <Mr__> and can someone please tell me how an 2 gig ati pcie video card is not found by the additional drivers,,, nor does it work when fglrx is installed directly
[19:10] <Mr__> wxl, there is no output
[19:10] <wxl> Mr__: that is a problem with canonical
[19:10] <Mr__> wxl, i'm so sick of pass the buck
[19:10] <Unit193> strace pcmanfm
[19:11] <wxl> Mr__: as for pcmanfm apt does "apt-cache policy pcmanfm libfm" give you?
[19:11] <wxl> Mr__: whether you LIKE it or not, lubuntu is not responsible for developing that any more than they are for, say, apt-get.
[19:11] <Mr__> seems fine except
[19:11] <Mr__> N: Unable to locate package libfm
[19:11] <wxl> Mr__: i didn't ask if it seemed fine; i'm looking for specifics
[19:12] <wxl> oh libfm ain't right hold on
[19:12] <Mr__> wxl, giving you a specific which is  N: Unable to locate package libfm
[19:12] <Unit193> libfm3
[19:12] <wxl> yes that
[19:12] <wxl> Mr__: let's be more specific. i want "apt-cache policy libfm3 pcmanfm | grep Installed"
[19:13] <wxl> Mr__: THE WHOLE THING
[19:13] <Mr__> after running that, everything is installed at the latest version
[19:13] <wxl> Mr__: not your opinion or analysis of it
[19:13] <Mr__>   Installed: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1  Installed: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1
[19:13] <yngve> NUCLEARWINTER, your suggestion works! Thanks!
[19:14] <NUCLEARWINTER> yngve, until your dhcp lease gets updated
[19:14] <wxl> that appears right for sure
[19:15] <wxl> Mr__: try this one: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && strace pcmanfm | pastebinit" and give me the resulting url
[19:16] <yngve> okey? so I should figure out how to make it permanet? <NUCLEARWINTER>
[19:16] <Mr__> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting
[19:16] <wxl> fun; hold
[19:17] <Unit193> Heh, so it's already running, I'd think.
[19:17] <wxl> no
[19:17] <wxl> may be pastebinit issue
[19:17] <wxl> Mr__: apt-cache policy pastebinit
[19:17] <wxl> need exact version number please
[19:18] <Mr__> 1.3-2ubuntu3 0
[19:18] <wxl> yep
[19:18] <wxl> thing's broken
[19:18] <wxl> one s
[19:19] <Unit193> unit193@Sigma:~$ apt-cache policy pastebinit| pastebinit
[19:19] <Unit193> http://pastebin.com/YfQ2uqE5
[19:20] <wxl> ok do this echo -e "<pastebinit>\n\t<pastebin>http://pastebin.com</pastebin>\n</pastebin>" >> .pastebinit.xml
[19:20] <wxl> THEN do
[19:20] <wxl> strace pcmanfm | pastebinit
[19:21] <wxl> doesn't xchat have an /exec command?
[19:21] <wxl> would save you from copying and pasting
[19:22] <Mr__> ran you last command again
[19:22] <Mr__> waiting for the slow servers now
[19:22] <wxl> if yu're doing the strace you're prolly waiting on it
[19:23] <Mr__> doesn't work
[19:23] <Mr__> no url
[19:23] <wxl> grrrrrr
[19:23] <wxl> can you do:
[19:24] <Mr__> thats how i feel about this whole release
[19:24] <wxl> echo "i hate you pastebinit!" | pastebinit
[19:24] <Mr__> bash: !": event not found
[19:24] <wxl> grr
[19:24] <wxl> echo "i hate you pastebinit" | pastebinit
[19:25] <Mr__> Error parsing configuration file!
[19:25] <wxl> oh
[19:25] <wxl> i'm no good
[19:25] <wxl> ok do this echo -e "<pastebinit>\n\t<pastebin>http://pastebin.com</pastebin>\n</pastebinit>" >> .pastebinit.xml
[19:25] <wxl> no
[19:25] <wxl> don't do that
[19:25] <wxl> ok do this echo -e "<pastebinit>\n\t<pastebin>http://pastebin.com</pastebin>\n</pastebinit>" > .pastebinit.xml
[19:25] <wxl> sorry
[19:25] <wxl> do that
[19:26] <wxl> should have tested first
[19:26] <Mr__> entered that, no errors or anything
[19:26] <Mr__> no url or anything either
[19:26] <wxl> no you didn't
[19:26] <wxl> i re-edited it
[19:26] <wxl> the last tag originally was </pastebin> not </pastebinit>
[19:27] <wxl> and don't forget to use > and not >> for your redirect
[19:27] <Mr__> i used the last line you suggested
[19:27] <wxl> now it should work
[19:27] <wxl> i have the same version
[19:27] <wxl> followed the same procedure
[19:27] <wxl> did the same test
[19:27] <Mr__> ok,
[19:27] <Mr__> but it doesn't work
[19:27] <Mr__> so, apparrently the upgrade process isn't so smooth
[19:28] <Mr__> my system was cherry before the upgrade
[19:28] <wxl> oh
[19:28] <wxl> nope
[19:28] <wxl> another mistake on my paste
[19:28] <wxl> s/paste/part/
[19:28] <wxl> strace outputs stderr i think
[19:28] <wxl> strace pcmanfm 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:29] <Mr__> http://pastebin.com/bFWXqxRp
[19:29] <wxl> http://pastebin.com/7ZNpMewY
[19:30] <Unit193> /tmp/.pcmanfm-socket--0-ronnie rm that, done.
[19:30] <Unit193> :D
[19:33] <Mr__> ?
[19:34] <Mr__> sweet
[19:34] <wxl> hah
[19:34] <Mr__> Unit193, thx man
[19:34] <wxl> no s$$$$$$$
[19:34] <Mr__> worked
[19:34] <Unit193> Sure.
[19:34] <wxl> where did you grok that from Unit193 ?
[19:34] <wxl> http://pastebin.com/dmXCLUKj
[19:35] <Unit193> wxl: It was right in the strace, why did you think I wanted it?
[19:35] <Mr__> now as for the proprietary drivers,, and or additional drivers not picking up my card
[19:35] <wxl> Unit193: i know that much. i see it there, but frankly i see it in mine, too. same return.
[19:35] <Mr__> any ideas?
[19:35] <Unit193> Mr__: As I said, jockey-text may do it.
[19:35] <wxl> Mr__: i hate to say this, but i'm gonna say it. go bug #ubuntu. chances are they're dealing with this left and right.
[19:35] <wxl> ↑ that's another good suggestion
[19:36] <Mr__> Unit193, tried that and it didn't find anything
[19:43] <yngve_> After upgrading from Lubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 I have lost all sound. :-(
[19:48] <Mr__> i think lubuntu, if they really want to be for aging computers should stay one version behind the current ubuntu version
[19:49] <Unit193> yngve_: http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/  and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[19:51] <yngve_> @Unit123 Thanks, I googled those pages, checked volume and installed alsamixer. But no luck
[19:51] <Unit193> Do you have pulseaudio?
[19:51] <yngve_> might be my old macbook air 1
[19:53] <yngve_> yes. I get this pulseaudio
[19:53] <yngve_> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[19:53] <yngve_> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[19:53] <Unit193> Some recommend that you purge pulseaudio as it causes issues with lubuntu.
[19:54] <yngve_> Will do
[19:54] <Unit193> To try and fix: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture  and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
[19:56] <yngve_> should a reinstall pulseaudio afterwords?
[20:00] <wxl> i wouldn't use pulseaudio unless you 100% need it for some audio project you're doing
[20:01] <wxl> read: playing music is not an audio project
[20:01] <yngve_> ok, I see
[20:01] <yngve_> thanks
[20:02] <yngve_> still no sound but uninstalling it, it says it needs a reboot
[20:50] <sourav_> helloo guys
[20:52] <sourav_> guys i have one problem i don't use network manager i change dns via resolv.conf but it changes after reboot any fix for this
[20:53] <wxl> sourav_: did you try using the resolvconf utility?
[20:53] <Unit193> sourav_: You can purge resolvconf, that'd fix it. :D
[20:53] <sourav_> i directly do sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[20:54] <sourav_> every reboot i have to manuall enter nameserver which is annoying
[20:54] <Unit193> !resolvconf
[20:55] <redderhs> anyone use a hauppauge tuner?
[20:55] <sourav_> i have extremely slow adsl pppoe connection when i configure it via net mgr but sudo pppoeconf does the trick
[21:16] <AmmarGreen> hi everybody
[21:16] <AmmarGreen> im new in linux world
[21:17] <wxl> welcome AmmarGreen
[21:17] <AmmarGreen> first like to say wow
[21:17] <wxl> you've made lubuntu your first distro?
[21:17] <AmmarGreen> this is so amazing lubuntu my first time running linux
[21:17] <wxl> EXCELLENT XD
[21:17] <AmmarGreen> yes
[21:17] <AmmarGreen> i have a question
[21:17] <wxl> fire away
[21:17] <AmmarGreen> my computer dont have any sound
[21:17] <AmmarGreen> do i do something wrong
[21:18] <AmmarGreen> its a freesh install
[21:18] <NUCLEARWINTER> open terminal
[21:18] <NUCLEARWINTER> ja type: alsamixer
[21:18] <AmmarGreen> ok
[21:18] <AmmarGreen> ill try
[21:18] <wxl> i'll leave this in your hands NUCLEARWINTER i gotta jet
[21:18] <NUCLEARWINTER> if you have under the "mixers" MM, you need to press m letter and unmute them
[21:18] <NUCLEARWINTER> hey, it's 00:20 here
[21:19] <AmmarGreen> now it says 00
[21:19] <NUCLEARWINTER> good
[21:19] <NUCLEARWINTER> PCM and MASTER are the one that matters most
[21:19] <AmmarGreen> thats it ?
[21:19] <NUCLEARWINTER> do you hear sound?
[21:19] <AmmarGreen> what about the volume icon
[21:19] <AmmarGreen> its not there
[21:19] <NUCLEARWINTER> really.
[21:20] <AmmarGreen> yes
[21:21] <NUCLEARWINTER> hmm
[21:21] <AmmarGreen> yes
[21:27] <NUCLEARWINTER> hi again
[21:27] <AmmarGreen> Hi  im new here sorry i was DC
[21:28] <AmmarGreen> i cant get the volume icon on my dock
[21:28] <AmmarGreen> is it my sound card muted ?
[21:28] <NUCLEARWINTER> if you say in terminal: 'lspci |grep Audio', do you get something like 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[21:28] <AmmarGreen> ok wait i try
[21:29] <AmmarGreen> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310] 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01)
[21:29] <AmmarGreen> this it what i get
[21:30] <NUCLEARWINTER> that means you have HDMI in your display card
[21:30] <AmmarGreen> yes
[21:30] <AmmarGreen> im using sony vaio 11 inch amd apu
[21:30] <NUCLEARWINTER> does this mean you want audio to come out from the tv or something like that with the HDMI?
[21:30] <AmmarGreen> no no
[21:30] <AmmarGreen> just my speakers
[21:31] <AmmarGreen> and like to have the volume icon also so i can turn up and down the volume
[21:31] <NUCLEARWINTER> your sound card is not regonized
[21:31] <AmmarGreen> oh
[21:31] <NUCLEARWINTER> horrible word to type
[21:31] <AmmarGreen> ok
[21:31] <AmmarGreen> :-(
[21:31] <AmmarGreen> so what can i do
[21:32] <NUCLEARWINTER> if you can provide a exact model of your vaio, people may be able to check more about it
[21:32] <AmmarGreen> ok what it the command for terminal
[21:32] <AmmarGreen> so i can copy past
[21:32] <AmmarGreen> my system here
[21:33] <AmmarGreen> will a web link help ?
[21:33] <NUCLEARWINTER> a web link is okay for example
[21:33] <NUCLEARWINTER> or "sony vaio superpc12321" or something like that
[21:33] <AmmarGreen> sony vaio e series sve1111m1e
[21:34] <AmmarGreen> e2-1800 cpu
[21:35] <AmmarGreen> is there any hope ?
[21:36] <AmmarGreen> i tried ubuntu 12.10 it works fine there
[21:36] <AmmarGreen> but i love this lubuntu and hope it will work with lubuntu
[21:38] <NUCLEARWINTER> quite challenging
[21:39] <AmmarGreen> ok
[21:39] <NUCLEARWINTER> trying to figure out the chipset
[21:40] <AmmarGreen> ok
[21:41] <AmmarGreen> will kernel upgrade work ?
[21:43] <NUCLEARWINTER> if you have one waiting, could be so
[21:44] <AmmarGreen> its my first distro like to learn about linux and do google much about it
[21:44] <AmmarGreen> i found kernel 3.6.2
[21:44] <AmmarGreen> in google
[21:44] <AmmarGreen> i could try and if did work
[21:45] <AmmarGreen> where can i share my info
[21:48] <NUCLEARWINTER> I cant find the chipset
[21:48] <NUCLEARWINTER> i assume that's quite new hardware
[21:48] <AmmarGreen> i dont know
[21:48] <AmmarGreen> but many thanks
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> anyway
[21:49] <NUCLEARWINTER> weird that it works under ubuntu
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> how does this chat work
[21:49] <NUCLEARWINTER> but not lubuntu
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> ya i know
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> i did re-install ubuntu
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> and everything just worked
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> the sound
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> and but not ati graphic
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> when i install fglrx
[21:49] <AmmarGreen> the manu dont open
[21:50] <AmmarGreen> but
[21:50] <NUCLEARWINTER> not the first one with problems ati propietary drivers
[21:50] <AmmarGreen> when i install the fglrx driver in lubuntu my ati works perfect
[21:51] <AmmarGreen> fglrx ati works in lubuntu but nut ubuntu
[21:51] <AmmarGreen> my sound card work in ubuntu but not lubuntu
[21:51] <wxl> ok THAT'S weird
[21:51] <AmmarGreen> hehe  i dont understand
[21:51] <wxl> some dude was saying he couldn't get fglrx to work in lubuntu
[21:52] <AmmarGreen> fglrx 9.0 works perfect
[21:52] <wxl> the sound servers are different between ubuntu and lubuntu so that's not totally surprising
[21:52] <AmmarGreen> with my amd apu cpu
[21:52] <AmmarGreen> ok
[21:53] <AmmarGreen> il be back
[21:53] <wxl> A new Xorg stack has been introduced which includes xserver 1.13 candidate versions, mesa 9.0, and updated X libs and drivers. The new xserver provides improved multiseat support, better smooth scrolling, and a large variety of bug fixes. There is a new version of the ATI driver, and the proprietary -nvidia driver now supports the RANDR standard for monitor configuration. ← from Ubuntu release notes
[21:56] <wxl> i think i got it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Sound_not_Working_On_PC_with_HDMI
[21:57] <AmmarGreen> hi again
[21:57] <NUCLEARWINTER> you got.... Internal Server Error
[21:57] <NUCLEARWINTER> :D
[21:57] <AmmarGreen> kernel upgrade 3.6.2 didnt help
[21:57] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Sound_not_Working_On_PC_with_HDMI ← AmmarGreen
[21:57] <AmmarGreen> oh
[21:57] <AmmarGreen> ok
[21:58] <wxl> let me know what happens
[21:58] <AmmarGreen> then there is nothing that can be done
[21:58] <wxl> no click the link
[21:58] <wxl> it's a suggestion
[21:58] <AmmarGreen> oh ok wait
[21:59] <AmmarGreen> well im no programer
[21:59] <AmmarGreen> dont know how to make the file
[21:59] <wxl> open leafpad
[21:59] <wxl> save it as ~/.asound
[22:00] <wxl> save it as ~/.asoundrc
[22:00] <wxl> i mean
[22:01] <AmmarGreen> ah ok wait
[22:02] <AmmarGreen> ok know what
[22:03] <AmmarGreen> i did create the text file ~/.asoundrc
[22:03] <AmmarGreen> and did also copy the content it the ~/.asoundrc
[22:03] <wxl> restart
[22:03] <NUCLEARWINTER> actually it doesnt require restart, if I recall right :-)
[22:03] <AmmarGreen> you mean restart the computer
[22:04] <wxl> i don't offhnand rememeber how to restart alsa but go for it
[22:04] <NUCLEARWINTER> sudo service alsa restart ?
[22:04] <AmmarGreen> ok wait
[22:04] <wxl> sorry i'm on the phone at the same time
[22:04] <NUCLEARWINTER> or maybe it doesnt require restart if you're plaing around with jackd
[22:04] <AmmarGreen> alsa: unrecognized service
[22:05] <AmmarGreen> when typing sudo service alsa restart i get this alsa: unrecognized service
[22:06] <NUCLEARWINTER> I dont have ubuntu machine atm. near me, I cant help with restarting alsa without reobot
[22:06] <NUCLEARWINTER> reboot
[22:06] <AmmarGreen> yes sir
[22:08] <wxl> alsa force-reload?
[22:09] <AmmarGreen> back
[22:09] <AmmarGreen> can i say something
[22:09] <AmmarGreen> i just fucking love this chat man
[22:09] <AmmarGreen> it works
[22:09] <wxl> XD
[22:10] <AmmarGreen> my ati and sound card just work
[22:10] <AmmarGreen> damn im so happy
[22:10] <NUCLEARWINTER> good, but next time try to keep language family friendly
[22:10] <wxl> keep the language family-friendly tho
[22:10] <NUCLEARWINTER> :D
[22:10] <Unit193> Should add in pulse, make it more fun.
[22:10] <AmmarGreen> yes
[22:10] <NUCLEARWINTER> makes me kinda laugh as I look at my nickname and I talk about family friendly :D
[22:10] <AmmarGreen> ok how do i do that too
[22:11] <Unit193> AmmarGreen: Kidding.
[22:11] <AmmarGreen> u guys are so awsome
[22:11] <AmmarGreen> my first distro
[22:11] <AmmarGreen> my first support
[22:11] <AmmarGreen> wow man
[22:11] <AmmarGreen> just called my friend about this
[22:12] <AmmarGreen> thanks so much
[22:12] <NUCLEARWINTER> AmmarGreen, we are so awesome that if we walk past a mirror, we are stuck in front of the mirror for an hour as we keep watching ourselves from it
[22:12] <NUCLEARWINTER> admiring
[22:12] <AmmarGreen> :-D
[22:13] <AmmarGreen> the movie is on and the speakers are on
[22:13] <AmmarGreen> i wish you all the best weekend :-D
[22:13] <wxl> glad all is well AmmarGreen
[22:13] <NUCLEARWINTER> it just gets better, mother in law promised to take kids for a nightstay tomorrow
[22:15] <wxl> feel free to hang out here with us AmmarGreen
[22:15] <wxl> most of us just idle here all the time :)
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> nice man
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> im a apple advicer
[22:15] <wxl> oh really?
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> maybe i can help or share
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> :-D
[22:15] <wxl> AmmarGreen: do you have any ppc machines?
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> nop
[22:15] <NUCLEARWINTER> AmmarGreen, you are welcome to join #lubuntu-offtopic for a chatting
[22:15] <wxl> too bad
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> im using a pc
[22:15] <wxl> we need more ppc testers
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> sorry
[22:15] <wxl> lubuntu has more or less become the de facto distro of choice for ppc
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> but what kind of test are you looking for
[22:15] <wxl> i was once a card carrying apple supporter… ;)
[22:15] <wxl> AmmarGreen: oh just testing new releases
[22:15] <wxl> AmmarGreen: for that matter, there's an open door if you want to help us with anything
[22:15] <AmmarGreen> well
[22:16] <AmmarGreen> i can ask who have a G4 og G5
[22:16] <wxl> many of us started here with questions and fell in love
[22:16] <AmmarGreen> not using
[22:16] <AmmarGreen> this is my first time and let me say this is better than microsoft and apple
[22:16] <wxl> AmmarGreen: i'm now referring to anything, not just ppc
[22:16] <wxl> AmmarGreen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[22:17] <wxl> you actually just came in when the new release came out so soon we'll start testing the next one…
[22:17] <AmmarGreen> opinion and experience
[22:17] <AmmarGreen> thats what i will share
[22:17] <AmmarGreen> i like to test
[22:17] <AmmarGreen> so im open
[22:17] <wxl> AmmarGreen: the #1 thing i can ask of you is help report bugs!
[22:17] <wxl> if you find something wrong, we need to know
[22:17] <AmmarGreen> yes
[22:17] <wxl> and the bug reports are the way to do it
[22:18] <AmmarGreen> where can i report
[22:18] <wxl> it's so simple
[22:18] <wxl> you just go to terminal and type "ubuntu-bug some-package" where some-package is whatever's not behaving
[22:19] <AmmarGreen> ok
[22:19] <AmmarGreen> let me see in my terminal wait pls
[22:19] <AmmarGreen> it says the some-package dont exist
[22:20] <AmmarGreen> oh sorry my bad
[22:20] <AmmarGreen> i get it :-D
[22:20] <AmmarGreen> well i will report as much i can when something happen
[22:20] <AmmarGreen> i did also install it on my fathers MSI wind 135
[22:20] <AmmarGreen> he just said wow
[22:21] <AmmarGreen> anyway i did bookmark this site and will also hang around soon again. im from denmark and the time is 0021
[22:21] <AmmarGreen> ill see you guys :-D
[22:21] <wxl> one sec
[22:21] <AmmarGreen> yes
[22:22] <AmmarGreen> i have  problem
[22:22] <NUCLEARWINTER> danish people eats weird sandwiches!
[22:23] <AmmarGreen> when i click on system information
[22:23] <AmmarGreen> its just hang and doing nothing but a grey screen
[22:25] <AmmarGreen> i did a ubuntu-bug hardinfo
[22:25] <AmmarGreen> what do i do know ?
[22:27] <NUCLEARWINTER> it should instruct
[22:28] <AmmarGreen> yes
[22:28] <AmmarGreen> just send a rapport
[22:28] <AmmarGreen> anyway thanks for the big help
[22:28] <AmmarGreen> i will be here soon again :-D
[22:29] <AmmarGreen> did already bookmark this site
[22:31] <fg3a> hi i just installed lubuntu 12.10 and i want to install the ati drivers, the ".run" binary from ati web don't work properly for me, is there other option for installing?
[22:32] <humongous_mango> hi there, so i burned a disc of 12.10 but when I boot to it, it just says 'machine error'
[23:03] <Newk> hi.. somehow some programs do not change to the theme i've set.. for instance Transmission-gtk
[23:03] <Newk> i'm on 12.04
[23:04] <Newk> what besides obconf and lxappearance do set the the theme?
[23:06] <psilo23> Hi everyone, anyone knows how i can change my audio output to usb ? I tried to find it anywhere but really cant find how to do it
[23:07] <holstein> psilo23: i might consider using pulse and pavucontrol
[23:07] <holstein> you can try in the terminal with alsamixer
[23:08] <psilo23> thnx let me ch
[23:08] <psilo23> check that
[23:08] <holstein> i would run "lsusb" and look for the device there.. if you see it run "aplay -l" and "arecord -l"
[23:08] <psilo23> yeah ive seen it connected
[23:08] <holstein> then, you can try in the terminal with "alsamixer" and maybe select it with F6
[23:08] <holstein> or select it in the application, such as in the menu in audacity for example
[23:10] <massimiliano> ciao
[23:10] <massimiliano> ciao
[23:11] <Newk> hello
[23:11] <holstein> psilo23: you could also do that with JACK.. depending on what you want to use from the system audio-wise
[23:11] <holstein> i would say JACK is overkill for that though
[23:11] <psilo23> lol
[23:12] <psilo23> now i dont have sound at all anymore
[23:12] <holstein> psilo23: you probably have chosen the USB device, and have something turned down, or its not well supported
[23:12] <holstein> the other option is hardware.. disable the onboard sound in the bios
[23:13] <psilo23> no i switched it back
[23:13] <psilo23> because the usb didnt work
[23:14] <holstein> for me, thats kind of what pulse is good at.. managing different devices and other stuff
[23:18] <Newk> i use kxstudio and i'm a happy with linux and audio now
[23:19] <holstein> falk helps us out with ubuntustudio a lot
[23:19] <Newk> alsa, jack and pulseaudio in harmony
[23:19] <holstein> in the OT channel we can talk about how i dont need/want that, but im glad its available for those who do
[23:20] <Newk> not sure why this gtk theme fails on some programs though.. if its because of some clash between kxstudio and lubuntu
[23:21] <Newk> yeah for the casual audio user pulseaudio is fine now
[23:26] <psilo23> well i have my sound back on but still no audio through the usb device :/