| === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 03:40 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 04:46 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 04:47 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, how are you? | 04:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: quite fine, thanks! how about yourself? | 04:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm good, thanks | 04:48 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| rickspencer3 | good morning all | 07:23 |
| didrocks | bonjour rickspencer3 | 07:25 |
| rickspencer3 | hey didrocks | 07:25 |
| rickspencer3 | what's the French community saying today about 12.10? | 07:26 |
| rickspencer3 | c'est bon? | 07:26 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: not as many downloads as for previous releases, seems people want to wait a little bit before downloading | 07:26 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: also, as we have a rock solid LTS, I think a lot of them won't upgrade for the first time in years | 07:27 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, interesting, why do you think that is? | 07:27 |
| didrocks | they like precise :) | 07:27 |
| * rickspencer3 nods | 07:27 | |
| didrocks | I had the same feeling yesterday evening in ubuntu-lyon | 07:27 |
| didrocks | (I went to the evening event, for helping upgrades/installs) | 07:27 |
| didrocks | just my feeling, it seems but strong LTS release are not good for later intermediate ones! | 07:28 |
| didrocks | … which is a good thing in some way ;) | 07:28 |
| rickspencer3 | well, yeah | 07:28 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:35 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 08:38 |
| chrisccoulson | well, that should keep the webapps guys busy. been picking firefox crashes out of the crash database for them this morning :) | 08:38 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 08:38 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm good thanks, how are you? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | I'm fine, thanks :) | 08:39 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: heh ;) | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/query/query?product=Firefox&version=Firefox%3A16.0.1&platform=linux&range_value=1&range_unit=days&date=10%2F19%2F2012+08%3A34%3A15&query_search=signature&query_type=contains&query=&reason=&build_id=&process_type=browser&hang_type=crash&do_query=1 | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | number 4 ;) | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | that's just for the last 24 hours. if i look at the last week, that crash is number 11 | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it's going to overtake all of them quite quickly :( | 08:40 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: can you contact them and work with them to get those fixed? | 08:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I think we will need to help them to get a better firefox plugin | 08:43 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah. they're all going to be travelling next week aren't they? | 08:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: right, most of them starting wednesday | 08:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder whether to just fix it for them before this appears on mozilla's radar | 08:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: so that's plenty of time to get some fixes in first! :) | 08:44 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: agreed | 08:44 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: would be bad to have it disabled :p | 08:44 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah | 08:44 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-October/msg00056.html ;) | 09:24 |
| chrisccoulson | systemd now a hard dependency of gnome-settings-daemon.... | 09:25 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: "sweet", this will make our life easier of course… | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | indeed | 09:25 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: not sure of the effectivness of the power plugin in g-s-d TBH | 09:25 |
| Laney | yeah, just saw that | 09:25 |
| Laney | it's not entirely surprising though really | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | but then, we choose to use obsolete technology such as consolekit :/ | 09:25 |
| xnox | chrisccoulson: I'm not sure "choose" is the correct word here. | 09:39 |
| pitti | ah, just read that mail as well | 09:40 |
| pitti | well, we'll need to package systemd anyway | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | xnox, what would be the correct word? | 09:41 |
| pitti | it was the plan for quantal already, but didn't happen | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, are you using https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next btw? :) | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti, how are you? | 09:41 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I don't really use firefox, why? ;) | 09:41 |
| pitti | we'll still need a patch to use CK, of course, but we should be able to use the suspend etc. bits | 09:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, oh, i forgot you're a chrome traitor :-P | 09:42 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | freedom hater ;) | 09:42 |
| didrocks | chromium* | 09:42 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: quick quick blog it! ;-) | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 09:42 |
| === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle | ||
| chrisccoulson | pitti, you'll still be at UDS, won't you? :) | 09:44 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yes, of course; I'm in the platform team | 09:44 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i wasn't too sure. that's good then | 09:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: take care, soon chrisccoulson will call you "desktop team traitor" :) | 09:44 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 09:45 |
| * pitti remembers to bring the asbestos pants | 09:45 | |
| didrocks | heh :) | 09:45 |
| ronoc | nero for linux has been broken since 11.10 on 64bit | 10:26 |
| ronoc | don't know who to spoke to about this ... | 10:26 |
| didrocks | ronoc: is it in the partner repo? | 10:27 |
| ronoc | didrocks, from apt I can find nerolinux | 10:28 |
| ronoc | i don't have any extra repos added to my source.list | 10:29 |
| ronoc | didrocks, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864876&page=2 | 10:29 |
| ronoc | the fix worked for me | 10:29 |
| ronoc | i needed to create an nrg for something | 10:29 |
| didrocks | ronoc: apt-cache policy nerolinux | 10:29 |
| didrocks | what does it says? | 10:29 |
| ronoc | didrocks, no mention of where the repo is | 10:30 |
| ronoc | i can't remember is i installed from a deb from the nero site | 10:30 |
| ronoc | nerolinux: | 10:31 |
| ronoc | Installed: 4.0.0.0-1 | 10:31 |
| ronoc | Candidate: 4.0.0.0-1 | 10:31 |
| ronoc | Version table: | 10:31 |
| ronoc | *** 4.0.0.0-1 0 | 10:31 |
| ronoc | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 10:31 |
| ronoc | didrocks, ^ | 10:31 |
| didrocks | ronoc: so you downloaded and installed the deb directly | 10:31 |
| ronoc | ah | 10:31 |
| didrocks | or added a ppa, installing it, and removing it (during a dist-upgrade?) | 10:31 |
| ronoc | nah i must have installed the deb directly | 10:31 |
| didrocks | but I really doubt we would ever have nerolinux in the distro | 10:31 |
| ronoc | we should support it though | 10:31 |
| didrocks | ronoc: maybe they have a support forum? | 10:31 |
| didrocks | I think it needs a rebuild and fixes for multiarch | 10:32 |
| ronoc | ok | 10:32 |
| ronoc | i'll see if i can relay that message | 10:33 |
| didrocks | ronoc: http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-linux4-update.php | 10:33 |
| didrocks | ronoc: seems they didn't release a deb for 2 years though | 10:33 |
| ronoc | aye, people still use this though for producing disc images, plants only accept nrgs or dpps | 10:34 |
| ronoc | yep it looks like nero have stop supporting linux ... | 10:37 |
| didrocks | urgh :( | 10:37 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| bizhanMona | Hi where is ubuntu as far as supporting systemd? thx | 12:09 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| jbicha | thanks Bastien for stirring up drama on a Friday https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-October/msg00056.html | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, yeah... i guess we'll be talking about systemd at UDS | 13:27 |
| jbicha | I mean, Ubuntu 13.04 probably should start migrating to systemd in 13.04 but he's being a jerk about "encouraging" us to do that | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 13:29 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 13:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 13:31 |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 13:48 |
| chrisccoulson | just saw your response on d-d-l ;) | 13:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, happy friday trolling day ;-) | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | I'm good | 13:50 |
| seb128 | having a day off work today (still some 10 vac days to take before end of year), I was just saying hello and reading emails (and trolling a bit ;-) | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, vacation, i really need to take some as well | 13:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd totally forgotten about it | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, i've got 18 days left! | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | jeez | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i really need to take some time off soon | 13:53 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: we'll tell you happy christmas and happy new year at the end of UDS :) | 13:55 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: you had a kid, and _still_ have 18 days left? :P | 13:55 |
| didrocks | mdeslaur: you know that this can be taken as "you are being a bad father", right? :p | 13:56 |
| jbicha | seb128: lol, have a good day off :) | 13:56 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, with 2 small children, sometimes it's a relief to be at work rather than taking vacation ;) | 13:56 |
| mdeslaur | didrocks: lol, whoops :) | 13:56 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: hehe :) | 13:56 |
| chrisccoulson | but, i really suck at taking vacation | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to pick a period between 2 firefox releases to have some time off :) | 13:57 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks ;-) | 13:57 |
| seb128 | I'm off again | 13:57 |
| seb128 | bbl | 13:57 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: how fast between 2 firefox releases already? | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, well, there were 2 last week | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | but 6 weeks between scheduled releases ;) | 13:59 |
| didrocks | ok, 7 for chromium IIRC | 14:00 |
| chrisccoulson | the release process for chromium seems a bit more chaotic though | 14:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i can tell you the exact date firefox 17 will be released :) | 14:01 |
| didrocks | time-based :) | 14:10 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: do they really release chromium and chrome the same day? | 14:10 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: maybe you would know? ^ | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | not sure about the same day | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | but it is roughly every 6 weeks | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | not as specific as firefox though | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | sometimes it is 3 or 4 weeks between stable releases | 14:11 |
| Laney | ah, working webkit on arm again | 14:36 |
| Laney | ogra_: ^ :-) | 14:36 |
| * Laney is looking at the slideshow | 14:36 | |
| * ogra_ hugs Laney | 14:36 | |
| ogra_ | Laney, thats awesome, while we could easily drop the slideshow, yelp is completely broken :) | 14:37 |
| Laney | heh | 14:37 |
| Laney | i'll SRU it with the upstream micro release | 14:37 |
| Laney | still a workaround, there's a bug with upstream to fix it for real | 14:37 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| ellorenz | Hi to all! | 14:48 |
| ellorenz | i'd need help about wifi on ubuntu 12.10 can anyone help me? | 14:48 |
| jbicha | ellorenz: please ask in #ubuntu | 14:49 |
| ellorenz | Ok | 14:49 |
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| === thisfred_ is now known as thisfred | ||
| TheLordOfTime | was 2d unity removed in Q? | 15:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | and if so, why? | 15:49 |
| didrocks | TheLordOfTime: yeah, it was, you can read http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-10 (or google around) for more explanation | 15:51 |
| didrocks | the decision was announced at last UDS | 15:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | ah, i missed it, i focus on server stuff more :p | 15:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | in any case, what's the method to reset stuff to less-graphical stuff? | 15:52 |
| didrocks | TheLordOfTime: if your machine can't support 3D, it will use llvmpipe | 15:52 |
| didrocks | (with unity itself) | 15:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | that may have been prudent to include in the release notes | 15:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | unless i didnt read them enough | 15:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | :p | 15:53 |
| * TheLordOfTime is adamant to stick with 12.04, but has seen 'bugs' that 2d unity isnt an option now | 15:53 | |
| didrocks | TheLordOfTime: people having machine not able to run unity 3D have a warning before upgrading | 15:54 |
| didrocks | (it may run fine with llvmpipe, but we prefer to warn them while they are on precise still :)) | 15:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | doesn't seem that way according to the QQing i saw in #ubuntu earlier | 15:55 |
| didrocks | well, it's only if the machine doesn't support 2D | 15:55 |
| didrocks | sorry, 3D | 15:55 |
| didrocks | not if you selected 2D and your machine supported 3D | 15:55 |
| didrocks | knowing that 3D is more power efficient as running on the GPU and some speed improvments have made their way on 12.10 for compiz + unity | 15:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | did the release notes include that 2d unity was replaced with what you've stated? | 16:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | if so, then i can just start saying "learn to read the release notes!" | 16:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | (or something more friendly that way) | 16:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | as i said, i prefer currentRelease -1, or LTS | 16:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | (which is why i'll be on 12.04 for a while ;P) | 16:00 |
| didrocks | TheLordOfTime: it was in beta1, seems it didn't make it into the finale release note though :/ | 16:01 |
| didrocks | TheLordOfTime: but the user shouldn't land in a desktop-less world, the new version unity version on supported hw should be more efficient than unity-2d they had in precise | 16:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | its the QQing i dont like :P | 16:03 |
| didrocks | and if their hardware will require llvmpipe support (so no acceleration), there is a warning showing it | 16:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | brb, I apparently futzed a debdiff for an SRU | 16:03 |
| fredp | didrocks and friends, congrats for the release. | 16:53 |
| didrocks | fredp: merci! :-) | 16:53 |
| jbicha | TheLordOfTime: yeah, basically no one has stepped up to maintain unity-2d | 17:20 |
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| === life is now known as lifeless | ||
| mterry | Laney, I wanted to push an SRU patch for gtk+3.0. I see you have one uploaded? Has it been approved into -proposed yet or shall I add my patch to yours and re-upload with same version? | 20:01 |
| * mterry realizes he can look himelf | 20:02 | |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| mbiebl | tkamppeter: heya, around? | 22:24 |
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