[11:24] <AlanBell> zykotick9: they actually changed it from donation to contribution I believe
[13:42] <k1l_> since mark called the new "closed community" tactics for some projects do you know some other linux projects that first develope in small groups before releasing it to the masses? on the other big distros for example?
[13:44] <IdleOne> android
[13:44] <IdleOne> google
[13:45] <k1l_> yeah of course that. but doesnt redhat or suse develope stuff in small groups first too?
[13:46] <IdleOne> I think it isn't a bad idea. A little surprise reveal on release day would be interesting and generate some buzz.
[13:46] <IdleOne> k1l_: I really don't know, you could try asking them
[13:47] <k1l_> i dont think that this a bad idea. especially when developing for the TV and Mobile sections.
[13:48] <k1l_> but atm there is a "omg ubuntu is just wanting to take your money" wave, again. and some examples form similar distributions to prove them wrong would be nice
[13:55] <IdleOne> I wouldn't know, my focus has been on Ubuntu for 5 years now. I haven't even tested any other distro.
[13:58] <k1l_> for me too
[13:59] <k1l_> maybe someone here knows a similar strategy in other distros
[19:45]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[19:47] <guntbert> genii-around: as long as you don't drink it -- making is ok :)
[19:48]  * genii-around slides guntbert a fresh mug
[19:48]  * guntbert cannot resist ... mhhh