[09:02] <tjaalton> tseliot: should fglrx get removed on upgrade to 12.10 if the hw isn't supported anymore?
[09:02] <tseliot> tjaalton: I don't think we have some code that does that
[09:03] <tjaalton> that's.. critical
[09:03] <tjaalton> a friend just hit it
[09:03] <tjaalton> they get a broken desktop then
[09:03] <tjaalton> no unity
[09:07] <tseliot> :/
[09:08] <tseliot> tjaalton: it's something that update-manager should do
[09:08] <tseliot> mvo: ^
[09:10] <tjaalton> right, not possible to do it in the package itself
[09:22] <mvo> tjaalton: could you please mail me the logs of this upgrade? if fglrx is remove it should automatically revert to the ati driver (same for nvidia) 
[09:22] <mvo> i mean, there is code for that
[09:22] <tjaalton> ok
[09:23] <tjaalton> mvo: I'll ask him to provide them, in case he actually did use u-m and not apt-get
[09:24] <mvo> tjaalton: please do, there is a xorg_fix_proprietary.py file in the release upgraer that will also write a log, so everything from /var/log/dist-upgrade/* will be useful
[09:24] <tjaalton> mvo: ok that's a relief :)
[09:25] <tjaalton> since it's not the first time hw support has been removed from a driver
[09:25] <mvo> tjaalton: well, sort of - if it works :) if ther eis a bug …
[09:25] <tjaalton> I guess we'd have a lot of bugs, which doesn't seem to be the case
[09:25] <mvo> tjaalton: meeeh, hold on a sec, so the flglrx driver is still installed but the driver simply dropped support?
[09:26] <tjaalton> mvo: that's my guess, he's not at the machine right now, but said it has some radeon on it
[09:26] <tjaalton> installed 12.04 last week, maybe installed the blob too since it's suggested..
[09:26] <mvo> tjaalton: ok, let me double check the code
[09:45] <mvo> tjaalton:  I think we will need this: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/ubuntu-release-upgrader/warn-on-dropped-fglrx-support 
[09:45] <mvo> tjaalton: would be great to get a proper bugreport and maybe your friend can help with the real-word verification?
[09:46] <tjaalton> mvo: sure, I'll ask
[09:47] <tjaalton> he's a power user, but max/solaris mostly :)
[09:47] <tjaalton> mac even
[09:49] <mvo> tjaalton: cool, once there is a bugreport, please link to this branch and we can do a SRU
[09:49] <tjaalton> ok, thanks
[10:24] <cheshair> hi! i have problems with my nvidia gt520 and ubuntu 12.10. can you give me any tips?
[10:33] <cheshair> i found this: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-driver-30460-in-ubuntu.html
[10:34] <cheshair> do you think it is a good way to have nvidia working on my new 12.10?
[11:33] <mlankhorst> mvo: ping ;)
[12:31] <mvo> mlankhorst: hi, sorry, just setting up a chroot now to test - what ppa do need to use to get xserver-server-lts-quantal
[12:32] <mlankhorst> ubuntu-x-swat/q-lts-backport
[12:32] <mvo> thanks
[12:35] <mlankhorst> i have ia32-libs package + wine1.5 from ubuntu-wine/ppa installed
[12:35] <mlankhorst> then apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-quantal libgl1-mesa-{glx,dri}-lts-quantal{,:i386} should probably be enough to trigger it
[12:36] <mlankhorst> i guess as long as you have the unrenamed 32-bits packages first its enough
[12:39] <mvo> ok
[14:21] <mvo> mlankhorst: as you probably noticed I can reprdoce the issue which is a good step forward
[16:21] <tjaalton> woohoo, bug 1067872 was invalid after all :)
[16:24] <twoxyo> Hi
[16:25] <twoxyo> Do you plan to build x-updates/nvidia-current for quantal ?
[16:26] <twoxyo> because when i try to install the precise version, i have unmeet dependency (xorg-video-abi-11)
[16:32] <bjsnider> it should be added to quantal very soon