[00:00] <wachpwnski> so @reboot $HOME/.cron_script
[00:00] <L3top> StZ: You have an optimus chipset. The only way that you have a chance of that working well at all is using bumblebee-nvidia... and I have no idea the status of bumblebee in quantal.
[00:00] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: do this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:00] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,it's mostly quantal though
[00:01] <L3top> StZ: optimus is completely unsupported in linux from nVidia.
[00:01] <motaka2> is there a way to install umbrello on windows ?
[00:01] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,says dpkg status is locked by another process i think it's the update manager thing you had me do earlier
[00:01] <blackshirt> optimus prime
[00:02] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: I didn't ask you to do that, but that's ok.   Let it finish
[00:02] <mdmkolbe> My USB keyboard has stopped responding.  Is there a way to get it back up without just rebooting the machine?  (This keeps happening and I'd like to get it fixed permanently.)  (I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.)
[00:02] <StZ> That name, bumblebee, rings a bell, L3top. It ran perfectly fine in .04, but doesn't seem to work in .10. I'll try reinstalling that. Thx
[00:02] <guea119> progress sort of. booted an older kernel and now things work
[00:03] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: unplug and replugging helps?
[00:03] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,well, you asked me to "did you use do-release-upgrade or update-manager to upgrade" so i went ahead and tried it, anyways it was taking a long time to install, i'm thinking it'll take a long time for it to check for updates
[00:03] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: unplug and replug does not help
[00:03] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:04] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: what does the syslog say is happening
[00:04] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: how do I find out what the syslog says?  (I'm ssh'ed in from another machine)
[00:04] <h6w> I'm trying to upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 using the downloaded AMD64 iso.  However, when I do apt-cdrom add it says "Skipping nonexistent file ...../binary-amd-64/Packages."  The installer then says is needs to download 1.1GB.  How do I get the AMD64 iso upgrade like the old alternate cd?
[00:05] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: when that's done, you'll want to run that dpkg command
[00:05] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,alright will do
[00:05] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: with or without x? you could 'tail /var/log/syslog' in terminal
[00:06] <devslash> I upgraded to ubuntu server 12.10 and after installing when i boot it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[00:06] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: you might also consider the issue is hardware related, try another usb keyboard/mouse to check
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> h6w: if you mount the ISO there should be an upgrade script in the root of the cd
[00:07] <devslash> can anyone help me out
[00:08]  * guea119 worked out what happened 
[00:09] <SkippersBoss> anyone else having troubles with ubuntu centres software sources additiobnal hardware
[00:09] <SkippersBoss> ?
[00:09] <h6w> ActionParsnip: Yes, the alternate CD had it in 12.04, but the desktop cd doesn't in 12.10.
[00:09] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: Mouse works fine.  I don't have a spare keyboard on hand.  The syslog shows errors about USB and hub (http://pastebin.com/DGG9qyFn).
[00:09] <Dark> Dark Sun
[00:10] <Dark> hi all
[00:10] <forty9foot> morning ActionParsnip :)
[00:10] <xodiak> hi all.
[00:10] <Dark> how r u?
[00:10] <guea119> I was running a newer kernel with 12.04 3.5.0.305 which did not work after upgrading
[00:10] <wachpwnski> my crontab isn't working. No blank line at the end will cause it not to work?
[00:10] <Guest65797> how r u guys?
[00:10] <devslash> ubuntu 12.10 update borked my server
[00:10] <Guest65797> pls tell me
[00:11] <Nordom> Hey I want to send some one a file, is there an easy way to do file hosting on ubuntu?
[00:11] <forty9foot> I got your note on my question, ActionParsnip - i don't know if you have seen my response, but it's an AR5523 Atheros chip in a Siemens Gigaset USB 108  (129B:160C)
[00:11] <jrib> wachpwnski: well did adding a blank line cause it to work?
[00:11] <wachpwnski> nope :/
[00:11] <xodiak> needing terminal command to update from 12.10 beta2 to 12.10 current... please
[00:12] <jrib> !final | xodiak
[00:12] <wachpwnski> should I run crontab -e with sudo?
[00:12] <jrib> wachpwnski: only if you want to edit root's crontab
[00:12] <xodiak> Thanks bot!
[00:12] <devslash> i need help . ubuntu server doesn't boot anymore after updating from 12.04 to 12.10
[00:12] <ais523> Nordom: well you could start up a webserver relatively easily, but that could have problems of its own; if the other person is also running Linux, I normally send the file with netcat, but both people have to know how to use it
[00:12] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: way out of my meager brain cells ability
[00:12] <Nordom> ais523: they are running windows
[00:13] <ais523> Nordom: that combination is always a pain; you can set up a webserver of FTP server, but configuring them is hard and you have problems with your firewall and your router's firewall
[00:13] <StZ> L3top, reinstalling bumblebee, and the nvidia-current drivers fixed it. I have my launcher back. Thx!
[00:13] <Nordom> ais523: so the easiest way is to just send it via email?
[00:14] <xodiak> getting a lot of "404 not found" when doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:14] <ais523> Nordom: if it's not really large, yes, unfortunately; it's a pity that Windows users don't have decent communication-over-network programs by default
[00:14] <Draton> Anyone having evolution-calendar-factory crash on startup after 12.10 update?
[00:14] <forty9foot> also if anyone here is on 12.10 yet, what is up with the huge font in the tty's?  It's enormous.
[00:14] <climbzilla> Still suffering from the network issue from last night.  I'm pretty sure I disabled ipv6, but the intermittent outages are still happening.  any ideas/advice?
[00:14] <forty9foot> i know my sight's bad, but come on :P
[00:14] <jrib> xodiak: I give you the same advice I gave you 6 hours ago: use a local mirror
[00:15] <Nordom> ais523:  it is a pitty, but I am sure in 20 years when microsoft gets around to it they will charge u for the feature =/
[00:15] <xodiak> lol :) sry jrib. I don't know how to use local mirror.
[00:15] <devslash> i need help . ubuntu server doesn't boot anymore after updating from 12.04 to 12.10. can anyone help me out ?
[00:15] <jrib> xodiak: in software sources, you can change your repository server to a local one
[00:15] <xodiak> jrib: affirmative
[00:17] <xodiak> jrib: when you say local mirror. you mean choose a download server I think it closest to me?
[00:17] <jrib> xodiak: yes
[00:18] <devslash> can someone help me out
[00:18] <mdmkolbe> almoxarife: I fixed the keyboard issue.  Plugging the keyboard into a different port worked.  Thanks for the help.  (Your suggestion about a hardware issue incirectly prompted me to check it.)
[00:19] <devslash> I upgraded to ubuntu server 12.10 and after installing when i boot it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[00:19] <almoxarife> mdmkolbe: cool
[00:21] <Allavaz> Hi all
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> devslash: what happens when you boot?
[00:21] <devslash> ActionParsnip: it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[00:21] <devslash> wtf does that mean ?
[00:22] <WeThePeople> devslash, >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12159
[00:23] <devslash> but i can't boot
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> devslash: some keyboard key isn't recognised. Have you tried the boot option: nomodeset
[00:23] <devslash> no
[00:24] <Braber01> what command shows me my partions and how big they are?
[00:24] <jrib> Braber01: df -h
[00:24] <devslash> ActionParsnip: do edit the command line and add nomodeset to the line beginning with linux ?
[00:26] <alexfpms> Braber01, df -h
[00:26] <alexfpms> jrib, sorry
[00:26] <jrib> alexfpms: no need for sorry
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> devslash: its anm option in grub, before the OS starts to boot
[00:27] <alexfpms> jrib, problems with my connection
[00:27] <devslash> ActionParsnip: Its still hanging
[00:27] <devslash> and I'm not even touching the keyboard
[00:27] <vlad___> is there a way to disable all network stack on a network interface, so it is 100% in promiscous mode?
[00:27] <xodiak> jrib: asking you bc you helped before. I've chosen multiple servers and am getting "404 not found" on not all but a few of the packages.
[00:28] <jrib> xodiak: have you run « sudo apt-get update »
[00:28] <devslash> ActionParsnip: what else can i try ?
[00:28] <xodiak> yessir
[00:28] <jrib> xodiak: pastebin your errors (and the command you ran to get them).  Include a « sudo apt-get update » ifrst
[00:30] <forty9foot> ActionParsnip: i'm gonna be on for about another 30 minutes or so, if you have time to reply on 211619, otherwise I'll catch it tomorrow :)
[00:32] <h6w> The cdromupgrade script is missing from the 12.10 isos.  How do I do a cdrom upgrade?
[00:32] <h6w> I found this but grub is not detecting the added line to 40_custom: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202694/upgrade-from-12-04-to-12-10-using-the-desktop-image
[00:34] <devslash> ActionParsnip: any other suggestions
[00:34] <vlad___> how do i disable network stack in linux?
[00:35] <jkeben> Does anyone have Ubuntu on an HP touchsmart?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> devslash: is the ram healthy?
[00:35] <xodiak> jrib: do I just paste the "pastebin' embed code?
[00:35] <devslash> yes
[00:35] <Flynsarmy> does 12.10 have nvidia optimus support out of the box? or we still relying on bumblebee?
[00:35] <jrib> xodiak: just the url
[00:35] <devslash> ActionParsnip: everything was working fine until i reboot after upgrading to ubuntu server 12.10
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: it'll be bumblebee or ironhide
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> devslash: can you switch to another TTY after the hang?
[00:36] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: I haven't looked at either in 6 months - did one of htem take the lead?
[00:36] <xodiak> jrib: http://pastebin.com/8yvnRHsS
[00:36] <devslash> ActionParsnip: yes but i don't get a login prompt
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: no idea, I'm avoiding that whole mess on purpose
[00:36] <jrib> xodiak: those are just PPAs that don't have quantal; you should disable them
[00:36] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: that's what i've been doing :) blacklisted nvidia and running entirely from onboard intel
[00:37] <Flynsarmy> ActionParsnip: and have a startup script that uses acpi_call to turn the nvidia gpu off. not sure if that's the best wya of doign things but it's been working for me
[00:37] <killown> something new on ubuntu 12.10?
[00:37] <kringel84> PLEASE, take a look at those critical bugs. The filesystem *never* gets cleanly unmounted about the / device remains busy. Unclean shutdown. Wrong inode count, wrong free block count. This is BAD. Because most users won't notice. (Until it might be too late!) Did a clean install with final image twice! Unclean shutdown *always*. The boot parameters "noplymouth nosplash" are helpful to view the boot messages. "Failure to umount root file syste
[00:37] <xodiak> jrib: disable in software sources?
[00:38] <xodiak> jrib: or I
[00:38] <devslash> is my server totally borked ?
[00:38] <xodiak> I'm fine igorning them.
[00:38] <Allavaz> I love ubuntu, but im an appasionated gamer
[00:38] <Allavaz> ._.
[00:38] <GeeEee> Hi all... having an issue upgrading to 12.10
[00:38] <jrib> xodiak: sure, you can disable in software sources
[00:38] <Dragonster82> What issue do you have GeeEee?
[00:38] <xodiak> jrib: appreciate all your help
[00:38] <Allavaz> Is 12.10 working nice?
[00:38] <Dragonster82> And how's it going guys?
[00:39] <Allavaz> cuz im dling it but if i dont work as we want... i will stop the dl ^^
[00:39] <GeeEee> have RAID0 with separate /boot and Grub2 is failing during upgrade
[00:39] <kringel84> Allavaz: Steam release for linux? http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/ Starting with L4D2, nearly all of the catalogue becomes ported.
[00:39] <Allavaz> oh yeees, yee i readed it bru!!
[00:39] <xodiak> jrib: I guess that means no support for MYUNITY in 12.10 yet?
[00:39] <Allavaz> im so anxious!
[00:40] <Allavaz> but it didnt release, true?
[00:40] <tux9th> GeeEee: It seems I had the same problem; I didn't realize it until I rebooted now my system is dead.
[00:40] <GeeEee> I didn't think about it before I kicked off the upgrade through Software Update
[00:40] <jrib> xodiak: I don't know, but I believe I saw that mentioned by someone else earlier
[00:40] <forty9foot> ok, well I am gonna reboot and downgrade my kernel - got the headers, the source, etc, so this is where I try to fix myself :)  back in a while if I don't get on
[00:40] <GeeEee> I haven't rebooted yet.
[00:40] <Allavaz> OH GOOOOOD!!! http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/beta-late-than-never-3/
[00:40] <GeeEee> So I'm still up, for now...
[00:40] <tux9th> great ;>
[00:41] <Allavaz> fckin betaaa!!
[00:41] <climbzilla> omg this is driving me crazy lol...
[00:41] <Allavaz> 12.04 works better than 12.10?
[00:41] <Allavaz> im seeing many people angry with the new version here...
[00:41] <GeeEee> Any ideas how I can get Grub2 installed manually before rebooting?
[00:41] <devslash> ActionParsnip:  can i pm you
[00:42] <climbzilla> Allavaz: I haven't seen any issue with 12.10 that didn't already exist in 12.04 (for me, at least)
[00:42] <climbzilla> performance is fine, so far
[00:42] <kringel84> Allavaz: Valve's CEO Gambell really hates Windows 8. The Steam client for Linux will be e-p-i-c!
[00:42] <nbf> does anyone know where the docs are for creating an ubuntu webapp
[00:42] <nbf> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/
[00:42] <tux9th> GeeEee: if you fix it please write me a notice how you did it
[00:42] <Allavaz> kringel84 goood im sooo haaappyy!
[00:42] <noiro> ubuntu, anyone know how I can add the auto scroll feature on web pages with the middle mouse click?
[00:42] <tux9th> GeeEee: just send me a query or highlite me by writing my name
[00:42] <Allavaz> i also hate W8
[00:43] <Allavaz> emm, i hate windows
[00:43] <Allavaz> but im gamer
[00:43] <Allavaz> Steam in Ubuntu... god, its too good
[00:44] <alexfpms> GeeEee, is it list the kernels when you do: sudo update-initramfs -u && sudo update-grub
[00:45] <nbf> did the steam beta come out?
[00:45] <alexfpms> When Steam comes out ?
[00:45] <kringel84> Allavaz: my last was Win 2K and Vista (ugh!) on a laptop. PS: What video card do you have? 12.10 brings better drivers for Intel, AMD/ATI, and Nvidia. And starting with 12.10, ubuntu will update the graphic drivers more frequently. E.g. you can select between free drivers (nouveau e.g. for nvidia) and then something linke nvidia-stable, nvidia-updates, nvidia-experimental. Nice, isn't it? :) So give 12.10 a try. Because when in a few months t
[00:46] <Allavaz> how to talk to you kringel? as you do it to me
[00:46] <Allavaz> sorry im an irc nab ^^
[00:46] <Allavaz> im using webirc
[00:46] <GeeEee> alexfpms, yes but I run into issues because my /boot constantly runs out of space
[00:46] <Allavaz> @kringel84 test
[00:46] <Allavaz> nope, that isnt the way
[00:47] <alexfpms> GeeEee, how many kernels do you have ?
[00:47] <kringel84> Allavaz: me, too! ^^ just learned today a little more. Notifications work when you type the *other* one's nickname first, e.g. "kringel84: hey!" would give me a notification also.
[00:47] <Allavaz> so...
[00:47] <Allavaz> kringel84 test
[00:47] <Allavaz> it worked?
[00:47] <dr_willis> use of @nickname is a Twitter thang.. not an irc thing. ;)
[00:47] <Allavaz> kringel84: test
[00:47] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  most irc clients notify the person when their nick is said in channel.
[00:47] <Allavaz> it worked?? :S
[00:47] <kringel84> think so! :)
[00:48] <alexfpms> GeeEee, you have to free some space on your boot partition, remove some old kernels if you have one
[00:48] <Allavaz> okay, so, i have an ATI 5670 1 GB GDDR5 graphics card :D
[00:48] <Allavaz> i have bought CS:S in steam
[00:48] <kringel84> Allavaz: depends on the programs your using. I'm on pidgin. But it was correctly.
[00:48] <Allavaz> kringel84 nice
[00:49] <monacelli> Does anybody know why Microsoft fonts are showing up as little boxes in XFCE's font config?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Allavaz: I game in Ubuntu, look intgo Urban Terror and Penumbra. Good times :)
[00:50] <ais523> monacelli: most likely the fonts in question aren't installed/updated properly, you could try apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer (I think that's what it's called, but that's from memory so I might be wrong)
[00:50] <Allavaz> i have bought FIFA 13 in origin.
[00:50] <Allavaz> so, i cant leave windows
[00:50] <Allavaz> but im seeinge
[00:50] <onats> hi guys, so I'm downloading both server version and desktop version
[00:50] <Allavaz> seeing*
[00:50] <Allavaz> the wonderful day
[00:51] <onats> what i want to be able to attain is to have a cloud server available locally
[00:51] <GeeEee> alexfpms, thanks... uninstalling oldest one now
[00:51] <Allavaz> the day when Ubuntu rocks in gaming
[00:51] <Allavaz> everygame works natively on Ubuntu
[00:51] <dr_willis> onats:  the desktop edition can run most all the services you would need.
[00:51] <kringel84> EA is also flirting a very little bit with Linux.
[00:51] <Allavaz> :O
[00:51] <monacelli> ais523: Word.. I'll check out the installer from the repo, I usually just copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype and then fc-cache -fv but maybe something weird happened this time.
[00:51] <onats> dr_willis: I'm currently running 8-9 VM's on virtualbox
[00:51] <Allavaz> if Origin comes to ubuntu... ill cry.
[00:51] <Allavaz> xD
[00:51] <ais523> onats: the main difference between the versions is that the desktop version installs a lot of stuff that you're probably going to want to use on the desktop, the server version installs hardly anything and lets you add things to a base image
[00:52] <onats> dr_willis: i want to provide my team of devs to provision their own test machines
[00:52] <kringel84> just rumours, very little though. but Valve's step will have an impact on other major publishers and development studios.
[00:52] <Allavaz> 1 hour for finished download
[00:52] <onats> ais523: ok so can i just use desktop, and install openstack/juju/maas?
[00:52] <Allavaz> ill install it with WUBI
[00:52] <moondog> I installed 12.04 on two machines last night. Guess I'll upgrade tonight. :(
[00:52] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  Hmm.. The torrent of the iso finished here in like 4 min.
[00:52] <kringel84> Allavaz: http://www.phoronix.com/ should be a good read for you. Daily news updates concerning graphic drivers, and games. If any news, phoronix has its first.
[00:52] <Allavaz> dr_willis omfg
[00:52] <ardchoille> Allavaz: one hour?! Are you downloading the itnernet?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> moondog: why? you don't have to. Precise will be supported long after Quantal is EOL
[00:53] <ais523> onats: yeah, you'd have to install it from scratch on either, starting from the desktop makes sense if you're using it interactively; the server version's interesting because of what it doesn't include, most people don't care for having things like a graphics stack or email client on their servers
[00:53] <xangua> ais523: you are confusing the server with the minimal
[00:53] <GeeEee> alexfpms, I ran those commands... result: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sil_bhbgbjdcbcdj5.  Check your device.map. /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sil_bhbgbjdcbcdj5.  Ch
[00:53] <absentbird> Hello, I am having a sound problem. I have followed a lot of Ubuntu documentation and it is still giving me grief. I can see the card with ALSA Mixer but Pulse is just not having it.
[00:53] <moondog> I like the latest :)
[00:53] <diverdude> my pc has been busy creating this image for at least an hour. To be specific, it's the "Creating a persistence file"-stage that's so slow. i am trying to create ubuntu 12.04 server 64 bit usb image
[00:53] <Allavaz> ardchoille my connection is too bad ^^
[00:53] <Allavaz> im from Argentina
[00:53] <ardchoille> Allavaz: :(
[00:53] <diverdude> should i just cancel and try again?
[00:53] <ais523> xangua: not completely; the minimal contains an absolute minimum of things, whereas the server contains things like command-line tools that are generically useful
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[00:54] <dr_willis> diverdude:  how big a file did you tell it?
[00:54] <Guest93791> Anyone know how to fix the GPU lock that occurs when installing from the USB startup disk?
[00:54] <ais523> diverdude: the persistence file is basically it allocating space for a huge number of zeros on the USB stick, you can make it smaller if you like
[00:54] <dr_willis> diverdude:  im not even sure the server edition supports persistence or the same live-usb features as the desktop does...
[00:55] <Allavaz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2250947807.png my speedtest ^^
[00:55] <dr_willis> diverdude:  if you are just going to install from usb. no need for a persstemnce file at all
[00:55] <diverdude> ais523: hmm i see..for how long will this continue?
[00:55] <monacelli> ahh, i just figured it out.  It was a permissions issue.  chmod 644 *.ttf fixed it. :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Allavaz: damn
[00:55] <ardchoille> Allavaz: Ouch!
[00:55] <Allavaz> hehe
[00:55] <diverdude> dr_willis: ok..why is it then creating a persistence file?
[00:55] <kringel84> Guest93791: are you sure it's a GPU lock? sometimes USB sticks tend to make a few pauses. with a minute, max two. if it doesn't continue, then surely it's a lockup
[00:55] <dr_willis> diverdude:  no idea what tool you are using..
[00:55] <Allavaz> but i have Origin running
[00:56] <ais523> diverdude: you tell it what sort of persistence file to create in the startup disk creator, you can restart and just tell it not to if you want to
[00:56] <SoggyPinata> Hi everyone, would anyone mind helping me with regards to xubuntu 12.10 and and my asus eee pc?
[00:56] <Allavaz> im dling ubuntu from servers, just not torrent
[00:56] <diverdude> dr_willis: the disk creator
[00:56] <Guest93791> Yes, I'm positive. I'm getting a message bounced back that it's a GPU lock.
[00:56] <Allavaz> im idiot ._.
[00:56] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: https://gist.github.com/3915654
[00:56] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  kubuntu torrent here - is estimateing 6 min for me to get the kubuntu iso. ;)
[00:56] <alexfpms> GeeEee, have never seen the that errors
[00:56] <Allavaz> but what is ur DLing speed??
[00:57] <dr_willis> diverdude:  you can just 'dd' theiso file to the USB if all you plan on doing is booting/installing it.
[00:57] <Allavaz> can u show me ur speedtest? ^^
[00:57] <SoggyPinata> I just finished installing xubuntu 12.10 on my eee pc and I am unable to boot into the UI, can anyone help me?
[00:57] <dr_willis> torrent is saying 2.88MB/s right now
[00:57] <ais523> SoggyPinata: what error message are you getting, and what's the last thing that seems to happen correctly before it goes wrong?
[00:57] <xeocs> can i possiblely install server edition on a flash driver? help..
[00:57] <dr_willis> xeocs:  you can do a 'full' normal install to a flash drive.. yes..
[00:58] <Allavaz> OH GOD
[00:58] <SoggyPinata> ais523: I am getting a "fatal error: unable to find screens". It just sits at the xubuntu terminal
[00:58] <Allavaz> where do u live?
[00:58] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  Indiana.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: run the command through and upload to the server, a URL will be generated
[00:58] <Guest93791> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[00:58] <SoggyPinata> ais523: I can access the file structure, but XFC isn't loading.
[00:58] <ais523> SoggyPinata: do you get the same output if you try to run startx by hand?
[00:58] <xeocs> ok,does the install process the same on a disk? thx
[00:59] <SoggyPinata> ais523: yes sir, I tried that. That's how I found out about the message.
[00:59] <alexfpms> GeeEee, you had this error after upgrading ?
[00:59] <ais523> aha
[00:59] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Oh, whoops. Here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=29f3171339ae2779be52b34753ddf1ed4f75691a
[00:59] <ais523> SoggyPinata: is there more information in the X log? it's at /var/log/X.something IIRC
[00:59] <FlyingElvis> whats the command in terminal to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[00:59] <stylewar> ?
[01:00] <stylewar> apt-get upgrade?
[01:00] <SoggyPinata> ais523: let me see, one sec
[01:00] <monacelli> isn't it update-manager -d ?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: if you run the sound app, is the correct device set for sound output?
[01:00] <Ketterer> is webapps working with the regular chromium in the repos?
[01:00] <ais523> monacelli: that's the GUI update manager
[01:00] <GeeEee> the upgrade errored out
[01:00] <Allavaz> grrr i lost connection
[01:01] <GeeEee> I haven't rebooted yet... makes me nervous because it didn't seem to rollback the updated files
[01:01] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: There is no output device listed. This started when I got a new motherboard.
[01:01] <Allavaz> hey guys how to dl ubuntu in a torrent??
[01:01] <dr_willis> Allavaz:  i just click on the .torrent link and it opens in my torrent client....
[01:01] <stylewar> google Allavaz
[01:01] <Allavaz> oh i found it
[01:01] <Allavaz> i found it ^^
[01:01] <ardchoille> Allavaz: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[01:01] <ais523> GeeEee: you may be able to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f" in a terminal to continue the update, if you think that's a good idea
[01:02] <stylewar> FlyingElvis: apt-get upgrade not work for you?
[01:02] <Allavaz> ye ye i found it ^^ thanks
[01:02] <absentbird> Allavaz: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[01:02] <dr_willis> you do NOT use apt-get upgrade, to upgrade to the next release.
[01:02] <xangua> !info unity-chromium-extension | Ketterer
[01:02] <absentbird> Allavaz: oh, nevermind, I was too slow.
[01:02] <Allavaz> yes yes i found it stop hahahaha
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds and reboot
[01:02] <Allavaz> oh dont be sad
[01:02] <FlyingElvis> dr_willis, what is the command then pls
[01:02] <ais523> dr_willis: you use dist-upgrade to continue an aborted upgrade, though (and probably you need -f depending on why it was aborted)
[01:02] <Allavaz> xDD
[01:03] <dr_willis> FlyingElvis:  you use that do-release-upgrade that people have been saying i belive
[01:03] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[01:03] <Guest93791> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[01:03] <ais523> FlyingElvis: dr_willis is correct, it's do-release-upgrade with some arguments I can't remember
[01:03] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Alright, I will see you after reboot. Thanks for the help.
[01:04] <FlyingElvis> ok ty
[01:04] <GeeEee> I'm not sure that I feel comfortable continuing the upgrade because it's not properly reading my array to install Grub
[01:04] <dr_willis> i bet do-release-upgrade --help   may show them. ;)
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: yuou also have an old model=clevo  in your alsa-base.conf which may not work with the new hardware
[01:04] <tucemiux> anyone knows of a unix channel in freenode?
[01:04] <SoggyPinata> ais523: The only other thing I could find was "Failed to detect GEM"
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> tucemiux: #unix   maybe
[01:05] <ais523> SoggyPinata: hmm, I'm out of ideas, there's no obvious leads (I mean, X is failing to detect the displays, but that much is obvious); do you have a particularly old Intel graphics card? 12.10 dropped support for some of those
[01:05] <tucemiux> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[01:05] <GeeEee> I remember now that I've had to install using the Alternate CD... for some reason it would correctly read my array
[01:05] <alexfpms> GeeEee, what happend? it aborted the process ?
[01:05] <ianliu> I have upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 and I don't have all features announced, such as Web Apps and the Ubuntu One indicator... how can I get them to work?
[01:06] <BarkingFish> Yay!  Well I'm part way to solving my problem, ActionParsnip - I'm back up to 3.2.0-32.51 for now.  Where would my problem get filed for a bug?  I mean, who makes ndiswrapper-dkms?
[01:06] <Allavaz> im dling now from a torren
[01:06] <Allavaz> torrent*
[01:06] <dr_willis> webapps is a neat idea - but is very flakey.. noticed them not working here when i just looked.
[01:06] <Allavaz> same speed or a bit higher than the normal download
[01:06] <SoggyPinata> ais523: I'm using a Asus EEE 1025C netbook and it's not that old.
[01:06] <ardchoille> Allavaz: I hope that's faster for you
[01:06] <ais523> BarkingFish: you can use ubuntu-bug and the name of a package to start filling out a bug against the package
[01:07] <GeeEee> alexfpms, I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f and it just came back that nothing was upgraded
[01:07] <absentbird> Alright, I am back and still no joy.
[01:07] <ais523> SoggyPinata: not sure, then, sorry
[01:07] <Allavaz> ardchoille 118 kbps :/
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> BarkingFish: just run:  ubuntu-bug ndiswrapper-dkms    and it will start the process
[01:07] <SoggyPinata> ais523: thanks anyway
[01:07] <BarkingFish> ActionParsnip, can I be certain it's ndiswrapper-dkms which is the problem?
[01:07] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: I should probably mention that I purged PulseAudio because it was causing lockups so it is currently not installed.
[01:07] <Allavaz> ill play rally, bye all and thanks for your help
[01:07] <stylewar> dr_willis he has to do an apt-get install update-manager-core
[01:07] <ardchoille> Allavaz: from my experience torrents pick up speed as time goes
[01:07] <Silicon_Salvatio> I need some assistance
[01:07] <Allavaz> archoille true bro
[01:07] <stylewar> then do-release-upgrade
[01:07] <Ketterer> Is there a way to get back wobbly windows? I have had it for years now and it is one thing i always loved, it just gave things a nicer feel
[01:08] <BarkingFish> I'm running in 32.51 now, so if I file at this point, it'll file the bug against the build on 3.2.0-32.51, won't it? :)
[01:08] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, hey you there?
[01:08] <dr_willis> stylewar:  no idea. I rarely if ever upgrade to newer releases
[01:08] <stylewar> dr_willis: obviously me neither .. lol
[01:08] <trism> BarkingFish: failing to build? bug 1023645 , seems it needs updating to 1.58 (I don't know if it is out yet)
[01:08] <ais523> Ketterer: try running compizconfig settings manager (you might have to install it first), it lets you change all those sorts of options
[01:08] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: yes
[01:09] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so i tried the dkpg thing and i got something to startup haproxy after that, it ended
[01:09] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: as long as there were no errors, you should be ok.
[01:09] <BarkingFish> trism - brilliant.  Can I attach that to a question I posted?  #211619
[01:09] <Ketterer> I have that installed and running, but it seems that it is stripped down
[01:09] <Silicon_Salvatio> I have nothing but a blank screen compiz failed. no dash or menu bar
[01:10] <BarkingFish> I don't know when the bug was posted, but I posted the question about an hour ago
[01:10] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, it went haproxy already running, action start fail, error processing haproxy, errors, exit
[01:10] <Ketterer> so i thought maybe i would try to install the plugin package compiz-core but that obviuosly already installed
[01:10] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: pastebin
[01:10] <Guest93791> Is there known issues with the ISOs? I've burnt it to disk, and started a USB installer but I keep getting a GPU lock one I try to install
[01:10] <trism> BarkingFish: sure can
[01:11] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, my linux laptop cant access the internet, i'm on my desktop atm
[01:11] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Any thoughts on what to try next?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: yuou also have an old model=clevo  in your alsa-base.conf which may not work with the new hardware
[01:12] <ki4ro_> .
[01:12] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Should I remove that?
[01:12] <BarkingFish> trism, ok - i've linked bug 1023645 to question 211619, I'll leave it at that for now - I can still get on the internet, all I've done is reinstalled the headers for 3.2.0-32 generic, which allowed me to rebuild ndiswrapper-dkms against that kernel :)
[01:12] <ianliu> How can I get Web Apps to work? I'm in Gmail but there is nothing different...
[01:12] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: well you can try just purging haproxy (install it back later) and see if that succeeds
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: yes as you changed hardware, didn't you?
[01:13] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: Yeah. Should I just delete the whole file and regenerate it?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: no, just that line, then reboot
[01:13] <Silicon_Salvatio> help, upgraded and compiz crashes on startup. no dash or menu bar
[01:13] <Ketterer> Compiz setting manager does not have half of the opetions it has had for the last 4 years, and wobbly windows is missing
[01:15] <Guest93791> I have a blank purple screen when using the LiveCD,m with only two icons on the bottom of the screen
[01:15] <alexfpms> Ketterer, really ?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest93791: what video chip do you use?
[01:15] <ais523> Ketterer: what about compiz-plugins, are the missing plugins in there? only other package I could find that looked relevant
[01:15] <Ketterer> yess
[01:15] <alexfpms> Ketterer, sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:15] <Guest93791> Nvidia GTX580
[01:15] <ardchoille> Ketterer: the wobbly windows plugin is definitely there, I saw it two days ago. Did you install all of the plugins?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest93791: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[01:16] <ais523> alexfpms: compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main are dummy packages
[01:16] <alexfpms> Ketterer, you will see that wobbly windows are still there
[01:16] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, it was short so i just manually wrote it out
[01:16] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, whoops link http://pastebin.com/t9FHkH8g
[01:16] <alexfpms> ais523, it woks
[01:16] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: stop haproxy and try again
[01:16] <Guest93791> Hoiw do I add that? All I have is a screen that looks like this:  http://i.stack.imgur.com/GtEi5.png
[01:16] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, hmm how?
[01:16] <ais523> alexfpms: compiz-plugins is the replacement, you probably shouldn't be pointing people to transitional packages (although it will work right now because dpkg recognises old package names for a while)
[01:17] <Ketterer> i only installed ccsm so far, but i will do the others right now
[01:17] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: probably « stop haproxy »
[01:17] <WeThePeople> where can i find a manual that describes what sudo -i, sudo -s, sudo -v, do?
[01:17] <Silicon_Salvatio> all i have is a desktop, no dash or menu bar
[01:18] <ardchoille> WeThePeople: man sudo
[01:18] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, that didnt work.
[01:18] <devslash> I upgraded ubuntu server to 12.10 and now it hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known."
[01:18] <alexfpms> ais523, yeah but they will be missing for years to come
[01:18] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: be more specific
[01:18] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: So still no sound.
[01:18] <WeThePeople> thanks
[01:18] <devslash> i can only boot in recovery mode
[01:18] <Ketterer> hmm alright that worked really well, do you know why it isnt installed by defult anymore, or did ccsm used to be a meta package for all of the plugins
[01:19] <obtrusivemouse> jrib,it returned this :  stop: unknown job: haproxy
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: are you using HDMI audio?
[01:19] <absentbird> No
[01:19] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: service haproxy stop
[01:19] <no_internet> I loaded the 12.04.1 LTS amd64 cd and the cd could not find the internet. My 10.04 finds internet just fine.  Has anyone else had this issue?
[01:19] <Draton> Hey guys - anyone get separate X screens working on 12.10 w/ nvidia drivers?
[01:19] <absentbird> ActionParsnip: No, I am using standard analog audio
[01:19] <alexfpms> Ketterer, look what ais523 said
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Draton: its an option in nvidia-settings if memory serves
[01:19] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i ran dpkg again and i got the same thing
[01:20] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: did you stop haproxy first?
[01:20] <Draton> ActionParsnip: Tried unfortunately didn't seem to work.  Got the typical 'gray' x screen w/ a X cursor
[01:20] <xyzone> no_internet, maybe wifi firmware needs install?
[01:20] <gmachine_24> Running 10.04 LTS LLynx after latest update I could not boot the computer. 2 error lines: hd2 cannot get C/H/S values and you need to load the kernel first.
[01:20] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, yes, i did stop haproxy haproxy
[01:20] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: did you verify haproxy was no longer running?
[01:20] <Silicon_Salvatio> upgraded to 12.10 and compiz crashes on startup, no dash or menu bar
[01:21] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, well i received : *Stopping haproxy haproxy : i thought that was enough
[01:21] <gmachine_24> fixed this, at least temp, by editing the boot command to read set boot=(hd0,1) and that fixed it for this boot. But am wondering if this is a permanent fix?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> absentbird: is there an option in BIOS to disable HDMI audio?
[01:21] <gmachine_24> sorry, "set root=(hd0,1)" not as I first typed it
[01:21] <Jimster480-Lapto> sup
[01:22] <gmachine_24> state your business Jimster
[01:22] <Jimster480-Lapto> ?
[01:22] <gmachine_24> do you have a question or problem
[01:22] <no_internet> xyzone, I've never had this issue in any other install cd.  I will download wifi firmware package and try install manually, thanks.
[01:22] <gmachine_24> if so, out with it
[01:23] <Ketterer> Thank you for the help it is much appriciated.
[01:23] <xyzone> no_internet, well are you connecting with wifi?
[01:23] <Silicon_Salvatio> anyone gonna help me
[01:23] <Ketterer> I have one other issue tho
[01:23] <Jimster480-Lapto> no i dont have any question or problem
[01:23] <Jimster480-Lapto> im just seeing wasup
[01:23] <no_internet> xyzone: no, wired
[01:23] <gmachine_24> people, please, ask your questions, state your problem or remain quiet
[01:23] <BarkingFish> trism, one minor problem, the bug you linked me to is great - but it doesn't mention where I can download ndiswrapper 1.58rc1 from :)
[01:23] <xyzone> no_internet, then that's not it
[01:24] <trism> BarkingFish: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/files/testing/
[01:24] <BarkingFish> once again, thank you trism :D Much appreciated.
[01:24] <no_internet> xyzone:  I even installed an update to my nic card driver and still nothing
[01:25] <gmachine_24> let me try this another way: where is the grub2.cfg file that I can edit?
[01:25] <bjrohan> I have Grsync all set up and running fine for it's first run, how do I set it up to auto-backup / sync every day?
[01:25] <no_internet> xyxone: but 10.04 LTS works just fine
[01:25] <Ketterer> I have downloaded the ati proprietary driver from their site, and usaually it is simple install, but today it says that there is something missing to preform the install, this is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288235/
[01:26] <alexfpms> Ketterer, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[01:26] <dr_willis> Ketterer:  Did you even try the versions in the repos?
[01:26] <alexfpms> Ketterer, then re-install drivers
[01:26] <ejv> bjrohan: cron
[01:27] <Ketterer> I had but it threw back a server error earleir so i thought i would just go dl them straight off the site
[01:27] <no_internet> xyxone: I also noticed that sound did not work either.  Perhaps related?
[01:28] <bjrohan> ejv, thanks. I am not all that familiar with Linux . . .  yet but getting there, that is why I chose Grsync for the GUI. How would I get it to autorun with cron?
[01:28] <Ketterer> should i try it again?
[01:28] <alexfpms> try what?
[01:29] <ejv> bjrohan: write a shell script that contains your rsync operation(s), then add the path to your crontab list
[01:29] <ejv> bjrohan: if grsync is worth its weight in salt as a program, you should be able to ask it for the rsync command it's performing
[01:29] <bjrohan> my rsync is done through Grsync, perhaps since I have it set up this way, i can now convert it to a regular rsync and script it?
[01:30] <Ketterer> sorry dr_willis  i did try the repos but it returned a server error so i thought i would just go dl them straight off the site, should i try the repos again?
[01:30] <gmachine_24> my grug.cfg file says "set root='(hd2,1)" which is wrong; it needs to be hd0,1 but I cannot figure out how this is chosen bc I use UUID in /etc/fstab. Anyone?
[01:30] <ejv> how are all the brave guinea pigs doing this evening/morning? :)
[01:31] <celthunder> bjrohan: what's wrong with your normal rsync to begin with? grsync should call rsync
[01:31] <dr_willis> Ketterer:  you could have just tried them instead of asking. :) using the drivers from the ati site is definatly somthing to be avoided.
[01:31] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so i removed haproxy then reinstalled it, dpkg went through cleanly, now what?
[01:31] <bjrohan> celthunder nothing that I know of. I just started with Grsync for the GUI since I am not very good at command line Linux . . .  yet :-)
[01:31] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: is the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed?
[01:31] <ejv> bjrohan: you are correct, check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[01:31] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, how do i check?
[01:32] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <bjrohan> ejv thank you
[01:32] <ejv> bjrohan: cron tab can contain either a command or path that contains a set of commands/instructions, it's fairly straightforward
[01:33] <BarkingFish> thanks for your help ActionParsnip and trism - i've set up the layout for 1.58rc1, so I'm gonna nip into the 3.5.0 kernel and build it :)
[01:33] <BarkingFish> see you about
[01:34] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, looks like yes http://pastebin.com/WyL1V31m
[01:34] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: run « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade »
[01:35] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, got this http://pastebin.com/hq1iu89S
[01:36] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: you should be ok then
[01:36] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so do i restart? i mean essentially i havent changed anything and i can't open up with unity (it stays black for a long time)
[01:37] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: create a new user and see if the issue with unity persists
[01:37] <uqwuwq> i want free shell for eggdrop ?
[01:38] <jrib> !ot | uqwuwq
[01:39] <jerknextdoor> Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 from update manager, upon reboot it says "error: file not found" with a Grub Rescue prompt.  I am unable to find anything on the forums that works.  I'm trying to boot to a LiveCD, but am still unsure what I would need to do.  Reinstall Grub?
[01:39] <Draton> jerknextdoor: i just dealt with that but i was able to hit grub
[01:40] <andyc101> I try a connect to #raspberrypi it prompts me to register with services?
[01:40] <Jimster480-Lapto> pistons are getting DESTROYED
[01:40] <Jimster480-Lapto> heat beating them by 29 points
[01:40] <andyc101> Any ideas.
[01:40] <Draton> jekrnextdoor: what i did was a sudo git-install /yoursdapath
[01:41] <jerknextdoor> Draton: It doesn't even hit grub.  As soon as it gets past my BIOS it goes to that screen.
[01:41] <ejv> !ot | Jimster480-Lapto
[01:41] <graingert> andyc101: #freenode
[01:41] <jrib> !register | andyc101
[01:41] <bazhang> Jimster480-Lapto, wrong channel
[01:41] <Draton> jerknextdoor: one sec let me see if i can't find the article again
[01:42] <Draton> jerknextdoor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187862/after-update-get-error-file-not-found-followed-by-grub-rescue
[01:42] <alexfpms> jerknextdoor, load from live cd and re-install grub
[01:42] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, so new user goes to purple screen then comes back to login screen, original account is still on black screen
[01:42] <Draton> jerknextdoor: alexfpms's suggestion will also work (equivalent to what i did)
[01:42] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: check ~/.xsession-errors for each
[01:43] <Draton> jerknextdoor: sudo grub-install /dev/sda (/dev/sda will change depending on your drive config), then sudo update-grub
[01:43] <jerknextdoor> Draton: alexfpms: that was my next option, i'll just skip straight to it.
[01:43] <Jimster480-Lapto> lol sorry guys
[01:43] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, hmm nope, it seems to fix itself albeit taking long time :>. seems like it is fixed after all though... why did i get system errors in openbox wm?
[01:43] <Draton> jerknextdoor: definitely the easiest way to go, seems overkill but easiest way to do it
[01:44] <chovynz> what is .viminfo for?
[01:44] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: what errors?
[01:44] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i dont know, it says system error, report ?
[01:44] <jrib> chovynz: :he viminfo
[01:44] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, not doing it now though
[01:44] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: I don't know
[01:45] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, ah nope i got it in unity: system program problem detected, do you want to report the problem now? then there is cancel and report problem
[01:46] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: is this with the new account or old?
[01:46] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, old, i cant event get on my new account
[01:46] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: why?
[01:46] <Yugnoswam> can anyone here help me install ubuntu via unetbootin/pen drive?
[01:46] <chovynz> jrib: what does that do?
[01:46] <jrib> chovynz: do you know what vim is?
[01:46] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i dont really know, it just turn purple screen and then goes back to login screen
[01:47] <chovynz> jrib: a cli text editor?
[01:47] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: so what was in the ~/.xsession-errors for the new account?
[01:47] <jrib> chovynz: type what I said in vim
[01:47] <chovynz> ah
[01:47] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, didnt check, don't i have to go into debug mode at the start in order to access this?
[01:47] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, what's the problem?
[01:47] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: just press ctrl-alt-f1 and use a tty
[01:48] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: Well I'm not sure which version i have since there is about 10 versions of 12.10
[01:48] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: reckon you could help please/
[01:48] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, depends on what you want
[01:49] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: just help with installing linux via unetbootin
[01:49] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, oh wow, didnt know this feature, so how does tty work? tty <location>/<filename>?
[01:49] <Yugnoswam> like i said, im not sure which version i have
[01:49] <Yugnoswam> live/hdmedia/netinstall etc
[01:49] <kenokabe> new era
[01:49] <kenokabe> hi all
[01:50] <chovynz> jrib: why would fdupes -r be calling .viminfo (and encounter an error)?
[01:50] <kenokabe> I have been beta testing quantal, and now it's released.
[01:50] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, ok
[01:51] <ardchoille> chovynz: .viminfo is where vim history is kept, perhaps that is the cause
[01:51] <alexfpms> Yugnoswam, you want make a live cd ?
[01:51] <kenokabe> now I want to install 12.10 from scratch on my MacBookAir. Is there a way  to install base system only just via wifi
[01:51] <Yugnoswam> alexfpms: check pm at the top
[01:51] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, additionally im getting these messages every few seconds http://pastebin.com/QWrkpNzc
[01:51] <chovynz> ardchoille: would fdupes be making a log file?
[01:51] <kenokabe> since, my machine doesn't have eithernet
[01:51] <ardchoille> chovynz: no idea
[01:52] <aeon-ltd> kenokabe: i don't think that's possible, unless network install has some features i don't know about. i think you're limited to usb.
[01:53] <kenokabe> auon-ltd thanks for your answer
[01:54] <makuto> Hello! This is a test
[01:55] <ais523> makuto: it worked, but please try to keep irrelevant lines out of this channel, it moves quite quickly
[01:55] <ki4ro_> makuto: It worked!
[01:55] <kenokabe> is there any CLI only version like debian
[01:55] <graingert> makuto: I can't see what you said, maybe you're muted
[01:56] <devslash> is ubuntu 12.10 stable ?
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> yes
[01:56] <graingert> devslash: yes
[01:56] <graingert> devslash: it's supported
[01:56] <ais523> I'm not so sure, the upgrade process crashed on me and I'm trying to continue it manually
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> kenokabe: the server edition is cli
[01:56] <kenokabe> aeon-ltd, I thought so,thx
[01:56] <ejv> stable? no, supported yes, stable? no. please don't do anything mission critical with 12.10.
[01:57] <adoniscik> does anyone have experience with recoll?
[01:57] <chovynz> !anyone | adoniscik
[01:57] <graingert> ejv: I was running 12.10 on my production machines throughout the summer
[01:57] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: you can use the "less" program to view files
[01:57] <jrib> chovynz: I don't know
[01:57] <graingert> ejv: totally stable
[01:57] <graingert> ish
[01:58] <adoniscik> how can you search a string with recoll? quotes don't seem to help
[01:58] <ejv> maybe im just old and jaded, but I find it to be a bad idea in any enterprise, high availability environment
[01:58] <makuto> What're the details with the Ubuntu Software comp?
[01:58] <graingert> ejv: which is why you use a bunch of different types of machines
[01:59] <ais523> you wouldn't expect all known issues to be shaken out of a distro the day after release
[01:59] <graingert> ejv: and run with the assumption of chaos monkey
[01:59] <chovynz> chaos monkey oi oi oi !
[01:59] <kenokabe> aeon-ltd, do you know the server.iso includes macbook broadcom wifi driver??
[01:59] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, i have no such directory :<
[02:00] <ejv> right, I only just converted some of my local 10.04.4 machines to 12.04.1, the gentoo herd don't need touching, same for the bsd flock hehe
[02:01] <aeon-ltd> kenokabe: no idea on that
[02:01] <kenokabe> aeon-ltd, after googling a bit, perhaps, I can be optimistic
[02:01] <jrib> obtrusivemouse: I must go now; good night.  Others can likely help you
[02:02] <obtrusivemouse> jrib, a/lright thanks for the help, good night
[02:03] <devslash> what are the general security risks of having X installed in Ubuntu server
[02:03] <graingert> devslash: none
[02:03] <graingert> ish
[02:04] <OerHeks> kenokabe, no it does not, the bcm for mac is in the MACTEl ppa > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[02:04] <devslash> ?
[02:04] <ejv> just xserver? fairly safe, the bigger DE's can be more potentially problematic.
[02:04] <devslash> well X with Gnome
[02:04] <KRomeleoN> im having trouble
[02:04] <sysop2> NE1 here good with SVN?
[02:04] <kenokabe> OerHeks thanks for your input
[02:04] <jtanner> having X encourages people to install other X11 apps and therefore ruin your security
[02:04] <sysop2> I just want to know if I need to backup db/strings
[02:05] <sysop2> mine is 14gb and is killing my backups
[02:05] <KRomeleoN> i installed 12.10 with lvm,  my ssd shows 3 partitions, partition 1 is 200mb and ext 2 then i have partition 2 which shows as 90gb ext 4 and partition 5 that shows as 90gb....its only a 90gb drive
[02:05] <KRomeleoN> the 2 big partitions are ext4
[02:06] <KRomeleoN> wht is this ext2 partition?
[02:06] <ejv> if you want gnome, perhaps use the --no-install-recommends option for the ubuntu-desktop meta-package
[02:06] <ejv> that will reduce the footprint a bit
[02:06] <WeThePeople> how to perm. change mac address in lucid?
[02:06] <devslash> I'm considering installing X on my server.
[02:07] <KRomeleoN> should i redo my entire 12.10 install?
[02:07] <gordonjcp> devslash: that's pretty much never a good idea
[02:07] <blackshirt> devslash, thats atually not needed so much
[02:07] <gordonjcp> devslash: why on earth would you do that?
[02:07] <devslash> i dunno i don't need it. i do everything from the command line...
[02:07] <devslash> just a thought
[02:08] <gordonjcp> devslash: leave it off, that's less stuff to go wrong
[02:08] <blackshirt> not a big problem
[02:08] <ejv> isn't it obvious? there are simply some applications that don't have good command line equivalents; stopped acting so shocked. lol
[02:08] <gordonjcp> devslash: of course, if you add something like Imagemagick that'll end up pulling in X
[02:08] <gordonjcp> ejv: none of which are relevant on a server
[02:08] <KRomeleoN> also, my ssd, which is he os is sdb but my storage drive is sda?!? why
[02:09] <gordonjcp> ejv: there's no real problem with adding packages more typically used on a server to a desktop - like, having a local instance of Apache for example
[02:09] <gordonjcp> ejv: using an X desktop on a server is pointless
[02:09] <DaemonicApathy> KRomeleoN: Chances are that partition 2 is an extended partition, which contains partition 5, so 90 + 90 = 90 here...
[02:09] <blackshirt> not a matter thats sda or sdbb,sdc ...
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> daemon,  but why do i have a 200mb partion 1 that is ext2?
[02:10] <DaemonicApathy> Boot partition?
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> DaemonicApathy,
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> yeah
[02:10] <ejv> devslash: check out the --no-install-recommends option when querying the different environments: ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lxde, etc. -- you'll be able to compare install footprints.
[02:10] <KRomeleoN> boot partition, why is ext 2?
[02:11] <KRomeleoN> can i make it ext4 whithout starting over?
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> KRomeleoN: *shrug* If that's the boot partition, and it works, which filesystem it is doesn't really matter.
[02:11] <obtrusivemouse> xposting this from ubuntu forums: Hi, I was doing an upgrade today on my 12.04 to 12.10 and for some reason during the upgrade, the power in my laptop went out. When I went to turn it on, the laptop ended up in a powerhogging, i think error prone mode, but I can still run 12.10 on it. Now I've tried to get someone to help me before and he had me use dpkg, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update and everyt
[02:11] <obtrusivemouse> hing went smoothly. But I still get popups saying tehre are system errors, everything is really slow and I keep getting this when i go to the debug client https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ux/+bug/925760) I think the installation wasn't cleaned up and some packages werent install. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:11] <blackshirt> i think related a ssd devices
[02:12] <devslash> env ok thanks
[02:12] <DaemonicApathy> obtrusivemouse: You might consider a complete backup and clean install.
[02:12] <ejv> i won't stand in your way of getting the job done
[02:13] <ejv> understand it's not good security practice, but it's viable
[02:13] <obtrusivemouse> DaemonicApathy, yeah, but trying to see if i can not have to go through the hassle of the installation again, seems like it's fixable
[02:14] <ejv> devslash: you might also check out Nomachine NX or freenx, so you can remote into your desktop environment, and control your apps that way
[02:14] <DaemonicApathy> obtrusivemouse: That link is broken, btw.
[02:14] <blackshirt> kromeleon, i think that was possible to convert the old format extt to new format
[02:14] <obtrusivemouse> daemonicapathy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/925760
[02:15] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, ok. I won't be any help to you, then. Sorry.
[02:15] <bkfitz> Question: Does anyone know how to change the purple boot splash screen/background?  I've tried ubuntu tweak (which successfully changed the 'login' background, but not the boot splash screen), and I've also tried installing a new Plymouth theme (solar) which successfully changed the screen that comes up when I shutdown, but still doesn't change the initial boot screen purple.
[02:15] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz, you could replace the image file directly...
[02:15] <KRomeleoN> hmmmm, how to change partition to ext4 tho?
[02:15] <obtrusivemouse> daemonicapathy, is there a way to reinstall from ubuntu itself?
[02:16] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, try    sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all
[02:16] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I think I tried that as well... how would you do that
[02:16] <DaemonicApathy> obtrusivemouse: Sure, from an external machine, but a LiveUSB/DVD is easier.
[02:16] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, it will take a lot of time
[02:16] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Hold on, I'll find the path for you.
[02:16] <blackshirt> kromeleon,  i don't know exaxtly...you could google it.. I have read it possible
[02:16] <bkfitz> /usr/shared/images/grub
[02:16] <ejv> gordonjcp: i disagree, for one thing the ubuntu-server footprint is far less than that of the desktop version, even if you retroactively incorporate a DE later on, there are some GUI apps that are simply more pleasant to administer remotely
[02:17] <bkfitz> then edit /etc/default/grub
[02:17] <bkfitz> no dice
[02:17] <nOStahl2> how is ubuntu 12.10
[02:17] <cbeust> nOStahl2: the best ubuntu so far
[02:17] <phear> love it
[02:17] <steven-> kinda like the beta yesterday
[02:17] <bkfitz> yes I ran update-grub
[02:17] <ejv> the best ubuntu was fiesty fawn
[02:17] <steven-> just a different name^^
[02:18] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, trying it, seems like nothing is happening, is this normal?
[02:18] <ctjctj> I just upgraded to 12.10.  Pulseaudio is giving me "Failed to create secure directory..." The issue is that sudo touch test.file works but sudo chown uid test.file changes the ownership to "nobody".  Home is NFSv4 mounted through autofs.
[02:19] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, it should be reconfiguring packages
[02:20] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, so like messages should be flying everywhere right?
[02:20] <upset> Changing default applications has no effect. What can I do?
[02:20] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: going to reboot to try something... be back in 3
[02:22] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, not sure, but IIRC you get messages when there are differences between current and installed configs
[02:22] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: back... love how fast :)
[02:23] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: SSD is always amazing. :-) I can't seem to remember where the purple background is, though...
[02:23] <DaemonicApathy> The logo is in /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/
[02:23] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: yeah... SSD on a shweeet new lenovo x1 carbon
[02:23] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, i have to admit i want to cancel it to see if i messed up because it's been blank the whole time... so this is supposedly going to reinstall each package?
[02:23] <bkfitz> ubuntu tweak is just editing the grub file right?
[02:24] <cbeust> i really wish I could borrow somoene's SSD for a few days to see how much I think it is worth it
[02:25] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, reconfigure, not reinstall. you should have thought about it before running it...
[02:25] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: No. GRUB is just a boot manager, not the settings on your OS.
[02:25] <AndChat194889> 3rd attempt at installing 12.10. Dual boot with win 7
[02:26] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Unless that was the screen you were trying to change?
[02:26] <DaemonicApathy> I may have misunderstood...
[02:28] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, i assume everything was installed correctly since it passed the other tests,hopefully it'll fix everything.
[02:29] <alusion> ActionParsnip, you are awesome. Thank you for being a great contributor and a kool guy in general  [trance is awesome btw]
[02:29] <jilebedev> If I write a script (foo.sh) that contains a whole lotta root-only commands, and each command takes ages to complete - is it safe to simply sudo ./foo.sh and be certain that each command in the script will be ran with superuser privileges?
[02:30] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, well, press ctrl+c... it will probably mess some packages, if not all of them
[02:30] <blackshirt> jilebedev, commonly, yes
[02:31] <phyre222> anyone know i use the git repository thing using git
[02:31] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, what else could i be running to try to fix this? if nothing, might as well
[02:31] <cairne> could you include sudo in the script
[02:31] <phyre222> never used it and kinda nuew to linux
[02:31] <jilebedev> blackshirt: ah, commonly's not gonna cut it here. guess man sudo it is for me :)
[02:32] <blackshirt> phyre222, you can use them if you want .... But it was more complicated than usual
[02:32] <phyre222> just tryin to figure out how to text plugins for ddg
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> alusion: thanks :)
[02:32] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, apt-get -f install  , dpkg --cconfigure -a  (not the same as the other command)
[02:32] <obtrusivemouse> phyre222, make sure you have git installed but basically you do << git clone <git url>>>
[02:32] <blackshirt> jilebedev, if you config sudo for some limit command, you can't do it for your script
[02:33] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, also, if you only see a blank screen while and after booting, try removing "quiet splash" from the kernel command line in grub
[02:33] <phyre222> but i wanna create my own plugin and test it
[02:33] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, configure or cconfigure?
[02:33] <phyre222> which i already created a basic one just tryin to figuure out how to install it
[02:34] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, configure,, sorry
[02:34] <phyre222> and or upload it to install it
[02:34] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, i get --configure is not understood
[02:35] <phyre222> i have the github account all setup
[02:35] <pepee> phyre222, read the manpage, there are some tutorials in google too
[02:36] <phyre222> i have
[02:36] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, can you post the command and the error msg in pastebin?
[02:36] <phear> new office 2010 works with outlook now guys
[02:36] <phear> just a fyi
[02:36] <phear> check appdb
[02:36] <DaemonicApathy> Phear, how is that relevant here?
[02:36] <phyre222> sry in the wrong chan
[02:37] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, or just tell me what command did you use?
[02:37] <phear> wine development with the new 12.10
[02:37] <DaemonicApathy> Ohh, ok. Thanks for the tip.
[02:37] <phear> interoperability is key to all systems
[02:38] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, basically i did what you said: apt-get -f install, dpkg --configure -a: and it gives me: E: command line option --configure is not understood
[02:38] <DaemonicApathy> phear: I missed the 'appdb' for a sec. sorry about that. :-)
[02:38] <phear> all good my friend
[02:38] <overclucker> phyre222, pepee: do you mean dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[02:38] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, there is a comma there
[02:38] <pepee> I mean, those are two commands
[02:39] <pepee> yeah phear
[02:39] <pepee> err no
[02:39] <pepee> ugh
[02:41] <cairne> anyone having issues with firefox? if it crashes it wont let me reopen up without restarting the computer just says that firefox is running and to open a new window but it just says that message no matter what
[02:42] <cairne> is there a task manager type thing like in windows?
[02:42] <WeThePeople> how do i save in GNU nano
[02:42] <yeats> cairne: System Monitor
[02:42] <OerHeks> cairne, open terminal: ctrl + alt + T and type: top
[02:42] <CrawfordComeaux> is it possible to do an unmanned upgrade from lucid LTS to precise LTS?
[02:42] <OerHeks> cairne, or install htop, extended version of top
[02:43] <Yugnoswam_> anyone here ever had issues installing ubuntu with unetbootin and gotten an issue where you cannot select anything and then you get a PAE erorr forcing a manual reboot?
[02:43] <yeats> cairne: System Monitor will do the same things without need for command line (though you can do that too ;-) )
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Have you checked the md5sum of the ISO?
[02:45] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: whats that
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:46] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: well.... when I boot up, I first see a black screen with lenovo etc, then a purple blank one, then a purple one with ubuntu text, then login screen.  I want to change two purple ones
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Checks the hash of the download to confirm it is basically intact
[02:46] <Yugnoswam_> ahh
[02:46] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I've successfully changed the login screen with ubuntu tweak
[02:47] <starbuck33> hi everyone, i'm downloading 12.10 and want to backup my current linux data to a windows partition. how sould i do this properly so the rights of the files and directories are saved as well? btw, i don't want to backup thw whole linux partiton, just a few directories
[02:47] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: cheers.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Earlier computers may not be PAE compatible, can we assume this is not a problem as well.
[02:47] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I'm not really sure what "Plymouth" is, but I've read a lot about that
[02:47] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, sorry had to eat dinner when i ran it, it asked me to remove some programs so i ran that
[02:47] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: drop any image you like into /boot/grub/, and that should change the grub screen too.
[02:47] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: its 10 years old...
[02:47] <Yugnoswam_> wilee-nilee: and atm my brain is far too frazzled to read up on tutorials >.>
[02:47] <DaemonicApathy> !plymouth
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, I doubt it is PAE compatible.
[02:48] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, when i run it again i have 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 remove, 0 not upgraded
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: I love how grub is smart like that
[02:48] <DaemonicApathy> ActionParsnip: You're not alone. ;-)
[02:48] <pepee> obtrusivemouse, try rebooting to see if it fixed something
[02:48] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: tried that and it didn't work
[02:48] <serban> so i upgraded to ubuntu 12.10.... unity fails to load, i assume because the opengl plugin of compiz fails to load Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, You can do a net install with the mini cd I believe still though, I would wonder if the computer has enough cpu and ram as well.
[02:49] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: a few other options: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/10/grub-splash-image/
[02:49] <bkfitz> when I run update-grub it recognizes the image and says updating background or something, but it doesn't actually work???
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> !pm | Yugnoswam_
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, I don't PM the channel is better for group help. ;)
[02:50] <AndIrc___> hey I just installed 12.10 but now I booted and I didn't boot into the GUI I am in :~$
[02:50] <Yugnoswam_> read what i said, not something to post to a group of a few hundred...
[02:50] <cairne> yeats: thanks so much!
[02:50] <cairne> OerHeks: thanks!
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Yugnoswam_, Then it does not belong in a PM.
[02:50] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: I'm not dual booted, so I don't really care about grub actually... I think boot skips right past it and goes straight to Ubuntu (correct me if I'm wrong)
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> AndIrc___: did you install server or desktop?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> serban: what video chip do you use?
[02:51] <JZz> action server
[02:51] <serban> ati radeon 4300
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> JZz: then that's why. That is normal
[02:51] <JZz> what's the cmd to install unity?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> serban: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[02:51] <JZz> apt get unity?
[02:51] <serban> yeah
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> JZz: why did you install server when you want a desktop OS?
[02:52] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, it still takes a long time to get to the login menu and from that to the desktop unity,  but maybe it has to do with this distro? battery/ power management isn't roaring like a bull so there's a fix
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> serban: try uninstalling the driver, rebooting then reinstalling them
[02:52] <JZz> I actually was using it for a server
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> JZz: there is a desktop ISO which has all the desktop stuff
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> JZz: you can install all the serrver services you like on the desktop OS, there is no restriction
[02:53] <serban> i dont know how to do that, i "activated" the drivers using the Additional Drivers thing ( i assume jocket-gtk)
[02:53] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: tried this as well: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[02:53] <bkfitz> with solar plymouth theme
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> JZz: in future, if you want a desktop OS, install one
[02:53] <obtrusivemouse> pepee, and i still get messages that say system program problem detected  that ask me te report but tell me nothing about the problem
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> JZz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <JZz> well since I already burned this one and have no access to another pc
[02:53] <JZz> that's what I was looking for
[02:53] <JZz> I was trying unitydesktop
[02:53] <JZz> wasn't working
[02:54] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Well, I'm a lot more useful with grub than with the boot splash, unfortunately. I do wish you luck.
[02:54] <bkfitz> Here is my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484852
[02:54] <JZz> it says invaild operation ubuntu-desktop
[02:54] <stobix> hm. Is there a simple command for putting the system in suspend/hibernation mode?
[02:54] <bkfitz> :) thx
[02:54] <pepee> serban, the latest catalyst doesn't support old (hd4000 or older) video cards
[02:55] <pepee> serban, this is the correct one:  support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx    BUT it doesn't support the latest X server...
[02:55] <DaemonicApathy> stobix: pm-suspend
[02:55] <stobix> DaemonicApathy: ah. thanks!
[02:56] <qburt> I have a question for IRC, how do I censor my /who? Some people have spoofed User: info
[02:56] <DaemonicApathy> stobix: Any time. It should be noted that Hibernate is disabled by default
[02:56] <vp18> 12.10 is smooth but i got trouble running conky on it.HELP
[02:56] <serban> then why the hell did it let me upgrade?:))
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> qburt, register and cloak up
[02:57] <serban> thanks pepee
[02:57] <syq> how to make an interface don't use the dns from dhcp?
[02:57] <aditya_> use normal in conky insted of default
[02:57] <pepee> serban, sorry, try the open source driver
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> JZz: in future, install the desktop ISO
[02:57] <bkfitz> DaemonicApathy: found solution on that page: sudo update-initramfs -k all -u
[02:57] <pepee> serban, AFAIK, that's all you have...
[02:58] <pepee> copypasting from #ubuntu+1:  did anyone know that the latest catalyst legacy (12.6) doesn't support X server v1.13?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> !pm > qburt
[02:58] <DaemonicApathy> bkfitz: Awesome. Good on ya. ^_^
[02:59] <qburt> Apologies, Wilee-nilee, how do you mean cloak up? Such as VPN? I read something about Virtual Hosts but cannot figure out how to set it up here. I am using X-Chat on ubuntu 12.04
[03:00] <DaemonicApathy> qburt: Here, you may ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode.
[03:01] <qburt> DaemonicApathy, I joined there, is there a certain thing I have to type in or just ask for it in the #freenode room?
[03:01] <pepee> serban, https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[03:01] <qburt> And how do I direct my text twords you like you guys are doing?
[03:03] <serban> thank you pepee
[03:03] <pepee> yw serban
[03:03] <Guest31516> ola sou novo por aqui
[03:04] <Guest31516> hello I'm new here
[03:05] <dfrey> Is there a known problem with libc6-dev and libc6-i386?
[03:05] <pepee> !br | Guest31516
[03:05] <dfrey> I seem to be having trouble doing an upgrade.  I'm on 12.04
[03:06] <Guest31516> Anyone know realize bootnet
[03:08] <whoever> Jimster480: what did you do, why isn't it installed
[03:08] <whoever> ls
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest31516, welcome to the channel, it works best if you form your problem in the form of a question.
[03:09] <DaemonicApathy> qburt: Just ask, and wait in #freenode. What do you mean about directing?
[03:10] <qburt> You type in my name and your text turns red.
[03:10] <Yugnoswam_> anyone here considered a genius with linux and fancy taking on a really puzzler of an issue?
[03:11] <DaemonicApathy> qburt: That's automatic, for anyone mentioned in a line.
[03:11] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[03:11] <Guest31516> Brazil has someone in the chat
[03:11] <qburt> DaemonicApathy, ohh, lol my bad... New to linux.. and Fairly new to IRC so its gonna be interesting.
[03:12] <DaemonicApathy> No big. :-)
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> faoiseamh: is the ram healthy?
[03:13] <thedoor> My rtl8139c is not working on ubuntu, its get up but dont comunicate with the network, mas anyone can please help me?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> thedoor: does the interface get an IP?
[03:14] <thedoor> Via dhcp nope.
[03:14] <Yugnoswam_> Problem: Trying to install ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootin and a USB drive. The USB drive is healthy, ISO is healthy and everything is up to day. However I get a PAE error and I cannot select any option when I boot from USB Drive on the laptop.
[03:15] <Nautilus> I had a 2nd HD in my system when I installed 12.04, it found those old 10.04 installs and put them in the boot list.  Now that the drive is out I'd like to cleanup the list.  tips?
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> Nautilus, Run sudo update-grub
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: use Xubuntu or Lubuntu, the ISO doesn't use PAE kernel by default
[03:16] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, he does't want use it either
[03:16] <serban> pepee: did that, compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded. Also when i sudo lshw -c video, i dont see any driver= in "configuration:" PASTE: product: RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series]... capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0
[03:16] <adoniscik> in Nautilus when I right click on a file, Make a Link is greyed out yet it works. Why is this?
[03:16] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: alexfpms is helping and is on the same page. I dont even have PAE I dont think
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> alexfpms: use what?
[03:17] <alexfpms> is complains about pae
[03:17] <pepee> serban, the PPA website says there is a known error
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: the default ubuntu kernel uses pae, if your cpu doesn't support it then you need a kernel without pae, which is in the Lubuntu and Xubuntu ISOs
[03:17] <alexfpms> i don't remember exactly
[03:17] <JZz> actionparsnip: I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and for some reason once I booted into unity I can't use my keyboard and mouse
[03:17] <pepee> serban, you probably hit it ...
[03:17] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: 1 sec ill get a picture of the error, youll see.
[03:18] <alexfpms> ActionParsnip, i didn't know it
[03:18] <Guest31516> can someone teach me sql injection
[03:18] <moondog> just upgraded two machines from 12.04 to 12.10. About as painless as could be.
[03:18] <Nautilus> wilee-nilee: thanks, all done!
[03:18] <moondog> first time I've done a OS upgrade on Linux
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Nautilus, cool. ;)
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: I've seen it, no need to screen shot
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: you need a different ISO, you can install Unity etc once you get the OS installed if you so desire
[03:19] <trism> ActionParsnip: I think non-pae kernels were dropped completely in 12.10 so lubuntu or xubuntu probably won't help
[03:19] <Yugnoswam_> so i cant use ubuntu?
[03:20] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: its the only linux os ive had any experience with and like the look of...
[03:20] <cortexA9> There is a 13.04 daily ?
[03:20] <Guest31516> ubuntu-br
[03:20] <CrawfordComeaux> Is it possible to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 without upgrading grub?
[03:20] <trism> cortexA9: usually not until after UDS
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> trism: let me check
[03:21] <sasuke> hi guys gud mrng :)
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> CrawfordComeaux, Can you give a hint why this is a problem.
[03:21] <JZz> I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and for some reason once I booted into unity I can't use my keyboard and mouse
[03:21] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: So is there no way of getting ubuntu on my laptop?
[03:21] <xangua> Yugnoswam_: you were already tod how
[03:22] <JZz> I was able to do the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but now I booted into gui and I can't use my keyboard and mouse
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: let me check
[03:22] <xangua> Yugnoswam_: installing xubuntu and luxuntu, and after that install unity/ubuntu-desktop if you wish, is the easiest way
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: you could install precise then immediately upgrade. Its taken out of Quantal. Pae is required: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[03:25] <xeocs> is ethernet board's driver wildcard under server edition? i can't use internet when booted on another machine..
[03:25] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: k. im gunna try xubuntu and hope to hell it works lol
[03:25] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: thats the error if you were interested. Thanks for your help. http://puu.sh/1gjF8
[03:26] <xeocs>  is ethernet board's driver wildcard under server edition? i can't use internet when booted on another machine..thx
[03:27] <JZz> Is there a way to manually install my bluetooth mouse and keyboard? because its not working after I installed ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: Precise is LTS anyway, so is supported past when quantal is EOL
[03:29] <xeocs> jzz, try to plug the receiver in another usb slot
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> JZz: did you install bluez ?
[03:30] <JZz> well after I did apt-get ubuntu-desktop I booted into the gui and now I can't do anything
[03:30] <JZz> I did try pluggin it into a different usb
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> JZz: i suggest you reinstall, using desktop ISO. lots easier
[03:31] <xangua> JZz: reall, as you were told, better install the desktop iso :) it already comes with all you seem to need
[03:31] <xangua> really*
[03:31] <JZz> even with desktop I had issue on 12.04 I had to borrow a usb keyboard and mouse to set it up
[03:32] <carlosthejackal> hello
[03:32] <carlosthejackal> hello world
[03:32] <JZz> trying to avoid borrowing that from someone if I can work around it
[03:32] <indieross> JZz, do you see the bluetooth icon in the notification area
[03:32] <JZz> no I do not
[03:33] <indieross> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:33] <indieross> ...
[03:33] <carlosthejackal> SUDO APT-GET SANDWICH AND SODA
[03:34] <carlosthejackal> its not working :P
[03:34] <indieross> JZz, make sure bluez and gnome-bluetooth are installed
[03:34] <JZz> can't do anything if I can't type or use the mouse
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> carlosthejackal: sudo isn't capitalized, neither is apt-get. Linux is case sensitive ;)
[03:35] <carlosthejackal> :P i know but I just wanted to put it out there
[03:35] <carlosthejackal> sudo apt-get starbucks :P
[03:35] <indieross> JZz, then ur gonna have to borrow a mouse and kb
[03:35] <JZz> yeah unfortunately
[03:36] <JZz> going to have to wait until tomorrow then
[03:36] <indieross> bummer
[03:36] <carlosthejackal> whats wrong jzz
[03:36] <carlosthejackal> ?
[03:36] <indieross> carlosthejackal, scroll up
[03:36] <JZz> can't get bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[03:37] <indieross> JZz, do you have an ssh server runninng?
[03:37] <carlosthejackal> ahh is it a usb keyboard or laptop?
[03:37] <indieross> prolly not if its  a fresh install
[03:37] <JZz> yeah I think so
[03:37] <JZz> I installed openssh
[03:37] <indieross> ssh into it
[03:37] <carlosthejackal> desktop or laptop jzz?
[03:37] <indieross> with ur phone
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> carlosthejackal: starbucks isn't an option of apt-get ;)
[03:37] <JZz> desktop
[03:38] <indieross> carlosthejackal, desktop obviousle
[03:38] <carlosthejackal> ok, is the usb driver installed?
[03:38] <indieross> y
[03:38] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: xUbuntu presented the same error. feature not on cpu: pae
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Yugnoswam_: yeah, seems they droppped the none pae kernel. You'll have to use Precise
[03:39] <xangua> Yugnoswam_: ActionParsnip what about the minimal iso¿
[03:39] <X-warrior> isn't possible to change menu buttons position on ubuntu 12.10? I tried to install gconf-editor and change button_layout option, but it didn't change anything
[03:39] <Yugnoswam_> ActionParsnip: Could I not just get an earlier version of xUbuntu? Or even Ubuntu?
[03:39] <carlosthejackal> your probably going to have to go to the motherboard website and download the USB driver.
[03:39] <indieross> JZz, even after you installed the packages required you still have to use the gui to connect the peripherals
[03:40] <indieross> JZz, so ya might just want to wait until tomorrow to take care of it, remember you're looking for gnome-bluetooth and bluez
[03:40] <carlosthejackal> jzz your keyboard and mouse is plug and play. if your usb driver is not installed properly none of them will work
[03:40] <JZz> yah I'm tryin to ssh
[03:40] <Treaver> !Help, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 alongside Windows 7 and when I boot into Ubuntu it's just the pink screen. Nothing else.
[03:40] <JZz> carlos usb driver don't exist for linux
[03:41] <indieross> Treaver, pink or purple
[03:41] <indieross> ?
[03:41] <JZz> but I think I need to open port on my router
[03:41] <JZz> 22
[03:41] <Treaver> Pink/Putple
[03:41] <indieross> those are different
[03:41] <Treaver> It's the default color of Ubuntu. But like it's overlaying the login screen
[03:41] <Treaver> I can hear the Login Screen start noice. The Dun duh
[03:41] <indieross> Treaver, do a ctrl+alt+f6
[03:42] <Treaver> But I can't see anything but a blank colored screen
[03:42] <Treaver> Then what do I do
[03:42] <indieross> ...
[03:42] <Treaver> I need to know ahead of time so that I can do it after I restart again
[03:42] <indieross> Treaver, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:43] <indieross> Treaver, actually before you do that runs sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[03:43] <indieross> that has the most up to date video drivers
[03:44] <indieross> then run the apt update & dist-upgrade command
[03:44] <indieross> Treaver, ya got dat?
[03:47] <X-warrior> isn't possible to change menu buttons position on ubuntu 12.10? I tried to install gconf-editor and change button_layout option, but it didn't change anything
[03:48] <indieross> Use ubuntu tweak to do that
[03:48] <D4rkH4nd> Did 12.10 come out yet ?
[03:48] <indieross> Yes
[03:48] <invalidopcode> is anyone else having a problem with Pidgin not showing up in the messaging indicator?
[03:48] <D4rkH4nd> shouldnt my update mangr upgrade 12.04 to .10 ?
[03:48] <engkur> D4rkH4nd, im already upgrade last week
[03:49] <D4rkH4nd> how do i do it then ?
[03:50] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: do you have the libnotify addon enabled¿
[03:50] <xangua> invalidopcode: do you have the libnotify addon enabled¿
[03:50] <D4rkH4nd> idk lol im a linux nub
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> D4rkH4nd, Go to software sources and in update tab set it to for any new version.
[03:50] <D4rkH4nd> 12.04 is my first install
[03:50] <invalidopcode> xangua: I believe so
[03:51] <xangua> invalidopcode: you can check in tools-addons
[03:51] <ceed^> Did three perfect 12.04 to 12.10s today. Pretty amazing!
[03:51] <invalidopcode> xangua: its installed and enabled
[03:51] <indieross> D4rkH4nd, http://tinyurl.com/735vu8o
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> D4rkH4nd, software sources is in the edit on the software center
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> in*
[03:52] <D4rkH4nd> okay ty
[03:52] <zontar> i personally recommend clean install when upgrading
[03:52] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: do you really need or want ubuntu 12.10¿ i would stick to the LTS version
[03:53] <indieross> Thats not really necessary if you dont have a bunch of ppas enabled
[03:53] <indieross> A clean install
[03:53] <D4rkH4nd> why not get .10 ?
[03:53] <JZz> indieross able to ssh to it and bluez is installed
[03:53] <zontar> that must've been why my 11.04-11.10 upgrade nuked itself
[03:53] <zontar> i do heavily use ppas
[03:54] <engkur> for desktop, i want bleeding edge sw
[03:54] <xangua> invalidopcode: i read the message indicator now works on demand, did you already add accounts in pidgin¿
[03:54] <engkur> but for server, i wont stable sw
[03:54] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: why do you need it¿ want it¿
[03:54] <invalidopcode> xangua: I do.  I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10, and it stopped showing up in the message indicator
[03:55] <ThR3X> //
[03:55] <D4rkH4nd> umm, its the new version lol
[03:55] <ThR3X> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[03:55] <ThR3X> ok brb
[03:55] <D4rkH4nd> Is there a reasone to not upgrade ?
[03:57] <D4rkH4nd> xangua: is there a reason to NOT upgrade ?
[03:58] <Samizdata> Any chance someone might be able to help me figure out why I can't get a Quantic clean install to boot on an Aspire One D270?
[03:58] <FlyingElvis> i just upgraded  :)
[03:58] <invalidopcode> is there a way to reset the webapp configuration?
[03:58] <D4rkH4nd> Is unity a part of 12.10 ?
[03:58] <Samizdata> Well, I upgraded two boxen today.  Neither one works.  At all.
[03:58] <invalidopcode> because I had the webapp preview at one point and I have a feeling its messing with stuff after the upgrade
[03:58] <FlyingElvis> yes D4rkH4nd
[03:58] <obtrusivemouse> D4rkH4nd, because it's in beta and not necessarily stable?
[03:58] <FlyingElvis> Samizdata, i had issues also..and this is how i fixed it
[03:58] <D4rkH4nd> Okay gotch ya then i will wait
[03:59] <invalidopcode> obtrusivemouse: 12.10 is out of beta
[03:59] <Samizdata> Hit me, Elvis.
[03:59] <FlyingElvis> i tried to install 12.10 clean install...it didnt work...so i clean install 12.04...updated it fully, and did the 12.04>12.10 upgrade...worked then
[04:00] <obtrusivemouse> can someone name me a channel on irc for discussing developing webapps/ apps/ extensions ?
[04:00] <Samizdata> No go on that.  It was running 12.04 fine, then the upgrade mangled it, so I did a clean install.
[04:01] <FlyingElvis> ahhh   then im lost then...my prob had to do with the video card
[04:01] <Samizdata> Really majorly unhappy with Ubuntu right now.  It's an Intel 3000HD video.
[04:02] <Samizdata> So, as it seems now, I am batting 2 for 2 on useless machines right now.
[04:03] <Samizdata> This, FWIW, is completely ridiculous.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: have you reported bugs?
[04:03] <Samizdata> Not sure how I can as I can NOT boot either box.
[04:04] <bulletrulz> why cload ubuntu?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: do you get no desktop at all?
[04:04] <Samizdata> The Aspire One - No.  The desktop - Yes, but nothing else.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: if you press CTRL+ALT+T do you get a desktop?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: have you tried a different desktop environment like Xfce?
[04:05] <Samizdata> Well, kind of hard to do when you can't get anything to work.
[04:05] <carlosthejackal> what are the popular irc channels?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: does a terminal run when you press CTRL+ALT+T?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> carlosthejackal: I'd ask in #freenode
[04:06] <Samizdata> Well, the netbook locks during boot.  I will have to try that one the desktop (not this machine_/
[04:06] <obtrusivemouse> also, why is  ubuntu the only open source distro that is commercializing?
[04:07] <Samizdata> The netbook stops at Stopping save kernal messages.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: can also press CTRL+ALT+F1 and drop to TTY1 (no desktop) and run stuff
[04:07] <bulletrulz> Obtru cause it is the most popular
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: tried adding the boot option: nomodeset
[04:07] <Samizdata> Well, I will try on the desktop.  But, I will admit, my netbook was the highest priority.
[04:08] <obtrusivemouse> meh, i kinda wished to see at least fedora or debian take the same path, without much community involvement, not much development either
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> obtrusivemouse: distribution choice, there is nothing stopping the others from doing the same
[04:10] <obtrusivemouse> ActionParsnip, yeah but it seems that the only reason why ubuntu is going forward is because the devs are now taking it as a fulltime job and it's paid with all those donations, shops, advertising
[04:10] <invalidopcode> lovely... the pidgin indicator work wasn't finished before release....
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> invalidopcode: want a consolation prize?
[04:12] <invalidopcode> ActionParsnip: yes, please :)
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> invalidopcode: there is a PPA to move accounts into the gnome keyring
[04:12] <invalidopcode> oh really now?
[04:12] <Samizdata> Nope.  nomodeset apparently just makes it lock up earlier.
[04:12] <xangua> (23:06:54) obtrusivemouse: also, why is  ubuntu the only open source distro that is commercializing? - there is nowhere written that you can't ;)
[04:12] <bulletrulz> ActionParsnip, to be honest it is ubuntu u guys have money
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> invalidopcode: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-gnome-keyring/+archive/ppa
[04:13] <invalidopcode> ah cool
[04:13] <noiro> I wish #! had a bit more funding. That was a great distro
[04:13] <xangua> ActionParsnip: so you need to use the keyring for pidgin to add to the message indicator¿
[04:13] <invalidopcode> ActionParsnip: I think I'm going to look into the indicator plugin. its not assigned to anyone, so I might be able to fix it
[04:14] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, well it's not like i can walk up to debian.org and ask them to make a massive overhaul to their website, their development process
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: other distros can do the same :)
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> xangua: no, it just puts the accounts in the keyring rather than plaintext in ~/.purple (stored passwords an all)
[04:15] <Samizdata> This is freaking ridiculous.  And, on the subject of funding and Ubuntu, I am afraid to say I didn't donate when I downloaded it (out of money until next week), but now I have no regrets at all.
[04:15] <xangua> ActionParsnip: mm didn't knew that addon had a ppa, sodo you know how to add pidgin in the message indicator for the new release¿
[04:16] <rmathews> Hi.  Lots of online docs seem to refer to a « /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.multiple-instances » ... but I it isn't present on my Ubuntu 10.04 (apache2-mpm-worker, installed) .. any idea where it is instead?
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> xangua: not sure. I've noticed its not present myself but personaly I don't use it
[04:16] <Samizdata> What is especially frustrating is it will boot from a stick, but not the hard drive.
[04:18] <Respite212> Hi, how do I start and close a script that I have?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> Respite212: run them in a terminal, you can stop them as you need
[04:19] <Respite212> ActionParsnip: I mean what is the COMMAND to start the script?
[04:19] <Dragonster82> Anyone have any problems here? I might be able to help.
[04:20] <invalidopcode> Dragonster82: wanna help port the pidgin libnotify applet to the new indicator architecture? :)
[04:20] <DaemonicApathy> Respite212: By default, you can double-click on the script itself in the file manager, or from a terminal, "your/directory/here/yourScript".
[04:21] <hazeman> ActionParsnip: Make them executable (see chmod) and the simply enter the name of the script
[04:21] <Samizdata> I would be happy if I could get the new architecture even working over here.
[04:21] <SpaceAviator> I cant find jockey anywhere. How do I install AMD drivers???
[04:21] <DaemonicApathy> hazeman: Good point, I always forget about the executable bit. Reflexes...
[04:22] <darkowlzz> SpaceAviator: sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[04:22] <Thete> Is there a way to update 12.04 to 12.10 through apt?
[04:22] <Samizdata> Check under Software Sources.
[04:22] <SpaceAviator> darkowlzz: is that the standard way now?
[04:23] <Samizdata> I had to use it to confirm I could get my Nvidia working on the one machine that was actually FUNCTIONAL under Quantic.  And that took some hacking.
[04:23] <Samizdata> Had to say it, but this is the WORST Ubuntu release EVER.
[04:23] <grizlo42> Is it unreasonable to ask that ubuntu has updated arduino dev packages?
[04:23] <darkowlzz> SpaceAviator: I guess so, some folks were discussing about it about 10 hours back and I tried it in a friend's computer and it worked
[04:23] <Dragonster82> invaliddopcode Nope, haha.
[04:23] <grizlo42> Who do I need to talk to in order to get new packages into the mainstream ubuntu repos?
[04:23] <xangua> Thete: software center-edit-sources-update tab- enable normal distro upgrades
[04:23] <Thete> Ahh, cool, thank you
[04:24] <black_blood> ubuntu noob here quick question i installed ubuntu 12.04 but i want to switch to kubuntu wich is better to run a fresh install or installing a new enviroment over it?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> black_blood, You can just install the kubuntu desktop.
[04:25] <SpaceAviator> darkowlzz: found the official way. goto software sources and then additional drivers tab
[04:25] <Samizdata> Just what I mentioned.
[04:25] <xangua> black_blood: you can install kubuntu-desktop and get rid of all the gnome stuff after, or simply do a clean install
[04:25] <xangua> !purekde
[04:25] <invalidopcode> is there an easy way to "checkout" a PPA to build it?
[04:25] <darkowlzz> SpaceAviator: cool!!
[04:26] <black_blood> thanks very much
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> black_blood, This link will give you a way of removing the ubuntu desktop if that is important. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> xangua, Missed the purekde link DOH.
[04:28] <black_blood> wilee-nilee thanks very much its exactly what i needed
[04:28] <bulletrulz> !purelxde
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> Samizdata, Please keep going while I look for my worlds tiniest violin.
[04:29] <miguel_> does vmware workstation 9 install in ubuntu with out a patch?
[04:29] <bulletrulz> !puregnome
[04:29] <teamcolt_> Maybe this is a really dumb question: how do you start a script that it's another directory without it "applying" to the directory you are in. For instance I have "git commit" in a bash file in my scripts directory but I want to execute it while my pwd is ~/ if I type "/scripts/myscript/commit" it will say "you have no git repo in the ~/ directory"
[04:29] <ekaj> Is a ubuntu comp going to flip out if I unplug a VGA monitor? It won't crash, will it?
[04:29] <Warbrain> no
[04:29] <bulletrulz> ekaj, no
[04:29] <Guest96708> hello! I am preparing installation to dual boot with *BSD, can you give me accurate partitioning schema ? please, don't give your opinions but exact answer. im tired really
[04:30] <ekaj> Okie.. thank you
[04:30] <bjrohan> Hey Yo, When setting up rscyn over ssh, how do I include the user password for the destination account so it doesn't ask me for it everytime?
[04:30] <Guest96708> I will need one primary partition for *BSD, but don't know about ubuntu installer
[04:31] <hazeman> teamcolt: A script is a command like any other. When you try to execute a command the system searches the directories in your $PATH and executes the first command with the right name that it finds.
[04:31] <Guest96708> it's 12.04 here, waiting to fresh install, any help would appreaciated
[04:32] <Guest96708> im on live cd right now
[04:32] <Guest96708> so guys how should I add partitions, in which sequence?
[04:33] <Samizdata> Well, trying one more clean install, then I am giving up on Ubuntu.  I guess I will try OpenSuse Plasma Netbook.  Have to peel the sticker off my Super key too.
[04:33] <Dragonster82> Samizdata , I have no idea why Ubuntu isn't working for you.
[04:34] <Guest96708> I am preparing installation to dual boot with *BSD, can you give me accurate partitioning schema?
[04:34] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata - seems a bit extreme to me. Personally, I'm just sticking with 12.04
[04:35] <loquitus> Anybody here know why my svn commit on a branch somehow ended up going onto the trunk?
[04:35] <Samizdata> Not so much.  Stick with an OS that won't work and has rendered 2 machines useless to me?  I suspect that's not so drastic.  Even the working install seems to be having errors everywhere.
[04:35] <DaemonicApathy> Guest96708: You could just make a partition of whatever size you like, ext4, and install Ubuntu on that.
[04:36] <Guest96708> DaemonicApathy: only one partition?
[04:36] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata: 12.04 wasn't working for you either? I was under the impression that 12.10 was your problem.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: have you tried Precise?
[04:37] <DaemonicApathy> Guest96708: I'm assuming you already have a bootloader, so the only reason for more than one partition would be if you wanted to assign a swap partition as well.
[04:37] <Samizdata> Yup.  Precise worked on both the machines previously.
[04:37] <DaemonicApathy> Precise = 12.04
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: thnen why not reinstall with that?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: Precise is LTS so will mean it is support long after Quantal is EOL
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: and even Ringtail
[04:38] <DaemonicApathy> ActionParsnip, is Ringtail 10.04?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: Ringtail is 13.04
[04:38] <hoban> Hello, I've got a T430s laptop with 12.10 final installed; I can't get sound working. I have adjusted settings with the gui tool as well as using alsamixer. Can someone assist please?
[04:38] <DaemonicApathy> Oh, duh...R...
[04:38] <Samizdata> I may, but I am having some faith issues with Ubuntu.  I was really hoping the possibility of the inclusion of llvmpipe would make my life nicer.
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: ;)
[04:39] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, ActionParsnip. I am indeed an idiot.
[04:40] <Samizdata> Regardless, that is two Precise reinstalls I need to do.  Thus, I suspect I might be moving on from Ubuntu.  I am clueless how this made it through beta.  And, with the hibernation bug...
[04:40] <Mneumonic> Samizdata sorry just started paying attention?  Issues with 12.10?
[04:41] <DaemonicApathy> Hibernation bug?
[04:41] <Samizdata> Amazing issues with 12.10.
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: did you upgrade or did you clean install Quantal?
[04:41] <Samizdata> When Precise neglected to enable hibernation?
[04:41] <Samizdata> Both.
[04:42] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata: That wasn't a bug, it's the default setting, due to some systems having issues with it, iirc.
[04:42] <Mneumonic> I HAVE noticed 2 issues with 12.10.  Enabling the experimental Nvidia driver breaks the desktop and Vmware player simply doesn't work.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: I see, I've had zero success with upgrades so always clean install personally. Why turn your back on Ubuntu when Precise works. Makes no sense
[04:42] <Samizdata> Upgraded both boxes, trying the second clean install on the netbook.
[04:42] <Samizdata> Because what do I do when LTS expires and the new LTS is a dog's breakfast?
[04:42] <DaemonicApathy> 12.10 is not LTS.
[04:43] <JZz> sooo
[04:43] <serban> how do i downgrade:))))
[04:43] <JZz> actionparsnip
[04:43] <Samizdata> I know 12.10 isn't.  It just seems like each release I use of Ubuntu gets dodgier and dodgier...
[04:43] <bazhang> serban, reinstall
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> serban: clean install
[04:43] <JZz> I was able to fix it manually but what a bitch
[04:43] <DaemonicApathy> serban: backup data, clean install of previous version
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Samizdata: thats still 5 years in the future....
[04:44] <Mneumonic> Precise is flawless, I am probably sticking to it for atleast another 6 months
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> Samizdata: I just mean that it's a poor indicator of how the next LTS will be.
[04:44] <zykotick9> what is the "official" aka easiest, method for current 12.04 LTS users to upgrade to 12.10?  i'd like to know the simplest cli/file method if possible.
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> Same, Mneumonic.
[04:44] <JZz> I had to edit 97-bluetooth-hid2hci.rules hiddev to hidraw
[04:44]  * Samizdata shrugs.  All I can do is look at history.
[04:44] <Mneumonic> Especially since you can enable the experimental Nvidia driver in 12.04.  It is perfect now
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> JZz: gotcha. You could report a bug with your fix :)
[04:44] <JZz> so its working as of right now but I don't have the bluetooth icon
[04:44] <bazhang> Samizdata, lets move on from the editorializing please
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> JZz: share the knowledge
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9, enable distribution upgrades in the System Settings?
[04:44]  * bulletrulz wants ubuntu to stop messing with unity and use gnome 2
[04:45] <hoban> lots of trolls out tonight
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: gnome2 is dead upstream so it won't be used
[04:45] <bazhang> bulletrulz, install gnome-panel then
[04:45] <DaemonicApathy> Gnome 2? What's wronge with Gnome 3?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: if you like the Gnome2 smell and want something fully supported, use xfce
[04:45] <bulletrulz> ubuntu should go back to the best gnome 2
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: didn't say anything was wrong with it
[04:45] <bazhang> !ot | bulletrulz
[04:45] <serban> how do I set metacity as my default win manager?
[04:45] <Samizdata> Well, we will see what happens with clean install 2 then.  I do not understand how it can run fine from a stick then go sideways from a hard drive.
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> DaemonicApathy: the gnome team have dropped it and are focussing on gnome3
[04:46] <DaemonicApathy> Meant for bulletrulz, ActionParsnip. I forgot to direct.
[04:46] <bulletrulz> bazhang, dude dont say that to mee everyone us doing it too
[04:46] <engkur> zykotick9, this command "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[04:46] <Andre_designer> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> serban: you can add a startup app to run:  metacity --replace
[04:46] <bazhang> bulletrulz, lets move on. gnome-panel for the classic look. there is NO gnome2
[04:46] <hoban> Hello, I've got a T430s laptop with 12.10 final installed; I can't get sound working. I have adjusted settings with the gui tool as well as using alsamixer. Can someone assist please?
[04:47] <zykotick9> engkur: lts should upgrade to non-lts 12.10 versions by default.  something MUST be changed first.
[04:47] <zykotick9> s/should/shouldn't/
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> hoban: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[04:47] <bulletrulz> well unity is so slow thats y i moved to lubuntu
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: lubuntu is sweeeet
[04:48] <bulletrulz> yeah i engoy it but i miss my gnome 2
[04:48] <Mneumonic> bulletrulz use Xubuntu
[04:48] <Mneumonic> XFCE is now like 99% of what gnome 2 was
[04:49] <bulletrulz> D: R.I.P Gnome 2 and xubuntu is not a replace ment
[04:49] <DaemonicApathy> zykotick9: Update Manager > settings > Updates > bottom "notify..."
[04:49] <DaemonicApathy> Then update.
[04:49] <Mneumonic> sorry but you are trolling now.
[04:49] <bulletrulz> i dont like xubuntu not as lightwhight as gnome 2 Was
[04:49] <bazhang> bulletrulz, enough
[04:49] <zykotick9> Mneumonic: 99% i don't think so ... ;)  </OT>
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: why, its coded using gtk....
[04:49] <Andre_designer> bulletrutz: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[04:50] <Flynsarmy> ubuntu with unity isn't too bad once you rip out all the parts of unity it's possible to get rid of. almost the same as gnome 2 but with a lousy run menu
[04:50] <engkur> zykotick9, check file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, Prompt=normal, or lts
[04:50] <zykotick9> Mneumonic: gnome3-classic/fallback is only 95% gnome2 ;)
[04:50] <hoban> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288505/
[04:50] <zykotick9> engkur: that "sounds" a lot better!  i can't confirm myself.
[04:51] <bulletrulz> ActionParsnip, IT Just doesent give me that spark gnome 2 did
[04:51] <bulletrulz> dude?
[04:51] <bulletrulz> abusing power much
[04:52] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic bulletrulz NOT here
[04:52] <DaemonicApathy> He did ask you to stop.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: never had a spark from a DE
[04:52] <sdollins> I don't have much information but my fiancé is trying to install 12.10 and he can't get into a GUI. His monitor says "input not supported". It worked fine with 12.04.
[04:52] <bulletrulz> bazhang, IKNOW but no body needs support right now and i was just talking to ActionParsnip
[04:52] <Mneumonic> Bulletrulz, there is always Windows 8!  I hear good things
[04:52] <sdollins> he can change to another tty though.
[04:53] <hoban> ActionParsnip, that's a lot of info; does anything jump out to you?
[04:53] <Samizdata> HAHAHAHAHAHA!  That was a good laugh. Mneumonic.  Cheers.
[04:53] <zykotick9> ok, ignoring terminal requirements.  what is the easiest way for 12.04 LTS users to upgrade to 12.10?
[04:53] <Mneumonic> :)
[04:53] <RobbyF> zykotick9, update manager
[04:53] <amin> ciao
[04:53] <amin> !list
[04:53] <Samizdata> Zyk - I wouldn't recommend it right now?
[04:53] <DaemonicApathy> sdollins: has he tried "sudo startx"?
[04:53] <kenneth__> hey guys
[04:53] <kenneth__> i'm having some issues
[04:53] <MarconM> how i change shell for zsh on ubuntu
[04:53] <zykotick9> RobbyF: does it offer it by default?
[04:53] <kenneth__> with openvpn
[04:54] <sdollins> DaemonicApathy: i told him to try that. one second
[04:54] <zykotick9> RobbyF: are you "sure"?
[04:54] <RobbyF> zykotick9, you may need to change setting within it to upgrade only from LTS to any new releases
[04:54] <kenneth__> I was able to connect but I can't ping gateway in my openvpn client
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> hoban: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[04:54] <hoban> ActionParsnip, also, thanks! :)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> hoban: reboot to test
[04:55] <hoban> ActionParsnip, will do, I'll be back if I still have issues. If I don't come back, thanks!
[04:55] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys
[04:55] <Samizdata> Well, here we go.  Clean install 2.
[04:55] <Shazer[2]> When I boot my computer, it trys to boot from my 1TB HDD, instead of my SSD...
[04:56] <Flynsarmy> Shazer[2]: check your bios boot order
[04:56] <bkc_> Shazer[2]: change the boot order in the bios
[04:56] <Shazer[2]> However, in my BIOS my SSD doesn't exist to set it as a priority
[04:56] <sdollins> DaemonicApathy: still says input not supported
[04:56] <Shazer[2]> But if I continually press F8 on boot I can select it, but that's so much hassle
[04:56] <Samizdata> And, I've got nothing.
[04:56] <Shazer[2]> If I wanna boot then walk away, when I come back it won't be booted it'll be ticking away trying to boot from HDD
[04:57] <awolf> aigh, please help: yesterday things worked fine (and for months), but now I have no internet working! I tried wired and wireless, the wifi connection is fine but no signal gets through
[04:57] <sdollins> He's using internal graphics on an ivy bridge CPU.
[04:57] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], what hd do you want to boot to?
[04:57] <awolf> How can I figure out if an update broke things vs I have some bad setting file?
[04:58] <Shazer[2]> WeThePeople: I want to boot from my SSD of course.
[04:58] <zykotick9> awolf: which happened first ;)  best of luck.
[04:58] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], type lshw in terminal and paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:59] <awolf> Well, I don't know what happened
[04:59] <awolf> I'm trying to troubleshoot
[04:59] <hoban> ActionParsnip, worked, thanks! Do you happen to know how to reset alsa sound values to default? sound is working, but raspy and overblown
[04:59] <hoban> (even at mid volumes)
[04:59] <awolf> Maybe DNS, maybe something… I'm just guessing
[04:59] <Samizdata> Well, have fun you all, especially those considering an update.  I am off to learn OpenSuse.
[04:59] <zykotick9> awolf: move your home directory settings to a new file/folder name.  see if probliem persists.
[04:59] <Shazer[2]> WeThePeople:
[04:59] <bjrohan> I need help with ssh and setting up keys for passwordless login
[04:59] <Shazer[2]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288514/
[04:59] <awolf> OK
[04:59] <awolf> Thanks
[05:00] <zykotick9> awolf: netork/dns might not be in your home folder...
[05:00] <awolf> ok
[05:00] <awolf> Um, what does a good DNS look like?
[05:01] <bkc_> awolf: 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[05:01] <awolf> Ok, let me be more clear: if one day all of a sudden no pinging or network works although wifi is on and works on other computers…
[05:01] <hoban> ActionParsnip, nevermind, I adjusted a few things and now it's fine. Thanks again!
[05:01] <bjrohan> I have set up SSH, worked fine, in trying to get rsync to work on its own passwordless I followed steps to create an ssh key, moved that key to the remote, now when I try to log in it asks for my key/password, It won't accept my password :-(
[05:01] <awolf> what's the first thing to check?
[05:01] <bjrohan> which it shouldn't ask for anyway
[05:01] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], looks like linux doesnt detect ssd
[05:01] <bkc_> awolf: routing & trace
[05:02] <bjrohan> any clues where I went wrong?
[05:02] <awolf> ok, how do I check those?
[05:02] <zykotick9> awolf: "personally" i wouldn't recommend use Google's DNS if you have an option... but that's just me.
[05:02] <Shazer[2]> God damn.
[05:03] <Shazer[2]> Is there a way to rectify, WeThePeople
[05:03] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], hold on im looking
[05:03] <Shazer[2]> WeThePeople, can we do it via PM?
[05:03] <bjrohan> Anyone have anything I can try?
[05:04] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], sure
[05:04] <Shazer[2]> ty please pm me
[05:04] <d3m0nk> 12.10 updates screwed up the video playback... anybody had this issue? known fix?
[05:05] <d3m0nk> I tried reinstalling the gstreamer plugins, vlc etc.
[05:05] <bjrohan> same here d3m0nk ever since beta
[05:05] <d3m0nk> bjrohan, no fix? :(
[05:05] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: what player?  have you changed your VO output from XV to something else?  (common blue tint issue)
[05:06] <bjrohan> Not that I have seen. I try to install ffmpeg, issues traced back to libx264-100 being requested when i have -123 installed
[05:06] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, yeh I did the blue tint fix... applied patch for libvpau or something I remember sometime back...
[05:06] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: fyi gstreamer probably defaults to XV
[05:06] <bjrohan> what is xv?
[05:07] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, hmm checking...
[05:08] <bjrohan> Anyone here knowledgeable about ssh and keys?
[05:08] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, I had it set to OpenGL / XCB
[05:08] <d3m0nk> changed to XV and still won't work
[05:09] <d3m0nk> some videos play okay... like .mov etc...
[05:09] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: ;) i would have expected opengl TO work, and XV NOT to work ;)  sorry i don't have any further suggestions.  good luck.
[05:10] <d3m0nk> Movie Player (default Player and UMPlayer) say "stream contains no data" etc.
[05:10] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: that sounds like a possible codec issue.  try "mplayer".
[05:11] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, yeah codec issue is the likeliest... but I've installed and updated all of em :(
[05:11] <d3m0nk> gstream, the good, the bad and the ugly ;)
[05:11] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], i pmed you.. if you are interested in figuring this out, let me know
[05:12] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: do you use mplayer with medibuntu's w32-something or w64-something?  that's a real test ;)
[05:12] <d3m0nk> zykotick9, nop dude.. btw I use gnome UI & lxde...
[05:13] <d3m0nk> I'm too slow and dumb to understand unity
[05:13] <DaemonicApathy> turns out I had a connection issue. zykotick9, did you get my last messages, or your answer for upgrading?
[05:15] <WeThePeople> shazer[2], see #hardware
[05:15] <zykotick9> d3m0nk: i believe everyone should choose the DE/WM they want to work in.  then choose a gnu/linux distro that enables that selection (FYI ubuntu from mini (see "/msg ubottu mini" for details) can allow you to select NO DE/WM by default.  so just a "naked" ubuntu - install ONLY what you want from "sudo apt-get install foo" ;)
[05:16] <bjrohan> Many have joined, anyone offer help on ssh login via keys vs password so I can rsync automagically? I messed up and now can not log in via ssh commandline
[05:17] <Mr__> anyone good with crons?
[05:18] <DaemonicApathy> !anyone | Mr__
[05:18] <sdollins> Why would Ubuntu use an unsupported refresh rate?
[05:19] <KM0201> bjrohan: you might get a better answer to that question in #ubuntu-server    i'm not sure on that one.. i always use password
[05:19] <sdollins> DaemonicApathy: We still can't get a GUI to work. :(
[05:19] <bjrohan> Thank you!
[05:19] <DaemonicApathy> sdollins: How was it installed?
[05:19] <zykotick9> sdollins: what video card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if unsure.
[05:20] <sdollins> He installed it via command line but he also can't get a live cd to work.
[05:20] <sdollins> He using intel integrated graphics
[05:20] <Mr__> i am trying to setup a cron to run a terminal command
[05:20] <sdollins> He has the i7-3370S
[05:21] <DaemonicApathy> I'm betting it's an HP.
[05:21] <sdollins> He built it himself.
[05:21] <sdollins> 12.04 worked fine.
[05:21] <elmux> Mr__ you can look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[05:22] <Grecoo> people, im going to install 12.10, but i dont know if i should install 32 o 64 bits
[05:22] <sdollins> His monitor is an Acer
[05:22] <sdollins> Grecoo: is your computer newish?
[05:22] <DaemonicApathy> sdollins: The only other options I can suggest are to reinstall 12.04 and update with the update manager, or just stick with 12.04, since support will go for a long time.
[05:22] <Grecoo> yep, a amd fx6100
[05:22] <Grecoo> 4gb rma
[05:22] <Grecoo> ram
[05:22] <sdollins> you could probably use 64 bit then
[05:23] <zykotick9> Grecoo: with 4GB of RAM you are totally boarderline!  i'd personally suggest you go 32bit.
[05:23] <DaemonicApathy> I have to agree with zykotick9. When in doubt, 32bit can be more stable.
[05:24] <Grecoo> yes, im thinking about buy some ram
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: what is the system used for?
[05:24] <Grecoo> but its ok at the moment
[05:24] <Grecoo> m..
[05:24] <zykotick9> Grecoo: if you plan on upgrading your RAM, use 64bit!
[05:24] <Grecoo> im planning to upgrade, but not in the next 6 monts
[05:25] <Grecoo> well, when i have the money :p
[05:25] <zykotick9> Grecoo: upgrading from 32bit->64bit requires a reinstall of ubuntu OS...
[05:25]  * thrasher194 updates to 12.10
[05:26] <Grecoo> oh, yes, wathever, im not going to upgrade, i have a /home and a / partition
[05:27] <elmux> Is the 32 Bit Installation more stable then the 64 Bit installation ?
[05:27] <Grecoo> the system is used for... internet, music, some movies, game, matlab sometimes
[05:27] <zykotick9> elmux: amd64 is a more stable verion then i686 - on ubuntu - i have no idea.
[05:28] <Jimster480-Lapto> k
[05:28] <Grecoo> the problem is that 12.04 64 bits is slower than i expeted
[05:29] <Grecoo> i have windows 7 too, and well, its faster than ubuntu
[05:29] <Grecoo> :/
[05:29] <zykotick9> Grecoo: unless you have 4+GB or RAM 64bit will "probably" be a detrement to performance, but it's still probably technically superior ;)
[05:29] <KM0201> Grecoo: i dunno, i have win 7 to on the same machine, and it doesn't even compare.
[05:30] <zykotick9> Grecoo: "windows 7 too" best of luck.
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: speed depends on config
[05:30]  * DaemonicApathy moved to an SSD without Windows.
[05:30] <Jimster480-Lapto> yea I have windows 7 also
[05:31] <Jimster480-Lapto> and 64 bit is faster always not just with large ram
[05:31] <uuu84> does anybody know where the export command is stored?
[05:31] <Grecoo> sorry, my english is not the best
[05:31] <blackshirt> grecoo, i think yes, ubuntu was too bloated with "artistical" things .... but,tehnically, windows was bad compared to unix
[05:31] <zykotick9> uuu84: if you mean bash-export.  i doubt it is stored... good luck.
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> uuu84: it is stored in a variable for that session
[05:33] <zykotick9> uuu84: ActionParsnip ftw ;)
[05:33] <Grecoo> blackshirt, right, ubuntu consumes a lot
[05:33] <Grecoo> long life to 10.04
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: desktop 10.04 dies in April 2013
[05:34] <Grecoo> yea....:(
[05:34] <DaemonicApathy> Grecoo, I solved this by disabling Unity, running Cairo-dock, and never looking back.
[05:34] <Grecoo> very sad
[05:34] <Jimster480-Lapto> ubuntu is quite slower than windows 7 in some aspects, this is the truth
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Grecoo: you can install lxde and it will use fewer resources than most OSes
[05:34] <Jimster480-Lapto> but in other things it is fsater
[05:35]  * zykotick9 notes, that any WM is lighter then any DE
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: compiz is lighter then razorqt?
[05:35] <Jimster480-Lapto> remember that light doesnt always mean fast
[05:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: you can't run compiz (the wm) by itself, other WM you can.
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: you can run compiz on its own
[05:36] <Grecoo> i was not sure if 32 o 64 bits because of the processor, its has the same performance in 32 o 64 bits?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-gpIKG6RX4
[05:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: while i 100% agree with you, compiz is a WM.  i don't consider compiz a WM ;)
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: course it is, it draws and manages the Windows. Its a WM
[05:37] <Jimster480-Lapto> 64 bit is usually faster
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: with a little tweaking (making a new session for lightdm) you can run compiz without a DE
[05:38] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: most people can't run "compiz" by itself.  openbox/fluxbox/awesome/etc are WM that you can run by themselves, without a DE.
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: they can, they just need to make a session
[05:38] <awolf> what's the correct permissions settings for my home directory?
[05:39] <awolf> I messed them up
[05:39] <grizlo42> if i have a deb package, is there a way to tell apt-get to install all its deps?
[05:39] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: compiz is HIGH cpu usage, all other WM are not...???
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: that doesn't mean it cannot run on it's own just like openbox etc
[05:40] <Grecoo> ok, ill download 32 bits
[05:40] <Grecoo> thanks guys
[05:40] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: honestly, i'm finding it difficult to even picture compiz without nautils, or any other WM...  but i guess, because you are saying it, that's it's possible - and i'm wrong.  my bad.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: you can run nautilus. You will simply need to add the --no-desktop option
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: or, what I do, use pcmanfm and tell nautilus to not  draw desktop icons, makes a snappier OS
[05:42] <snowrichard> i have a usb wireless network card.  I started dist upgrade, and it has downloaded all the packages, but keyboard and mouse are not responding.  Hopefully it will finish installing the packages and reboot on its own.
[05:43] <snowrichard> i can ssh in though
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> snowrichard: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 are you able to type there (does the shortcut do anything)?
[05:43] <snowrichard> is there a command to restart the usb for keyboard and mouse
[05:44] <snowrichard> doesn't bring up a new terminal no
[05:44] <awolf> please anyone: what is the normal permissions for home directory?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> awolf: 644 I believe
[05:44] <uuu84> when i run chroot /mnt/ export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive i get the following error: chroot: failed to run command `export': No such file or directory. anybody know how to fix that?
[05:45] <grizlo42> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[05:45] <grizlo42> any ideas?
[05:46] <bazhang> !gpgerr | grizlo42
[05:46] <grizlo42> ugh. hmmmmm i wonder what the keyword is
[05:46] <elisa87> How can I install Facebook Andoid sdk on Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Guest96708> which one to choose primary/logical partition for /boot, root and swap?
[05:47] <snowrichard> developer.android.com has good direction on the android sdk install. You will need Java and the Eclipse IDE
[05:47] <hateball> Guest96708: Primary/Logical doesnt really matter. If you have more than 4 partitions you need logical ones
[05:48] <snowrichard> sorry i don't know about face book sdk
[05:48] <Guest96708> hateball: good then, i choose logical, but that is the difference?
[05:48] <grizlo42> bazhang: that key didn't work...
[05:48] <grizlo42> gpg: "437D05B" not a key ID: skipping
[05:48] <grizlo42> lolnvm
[05:48] <hateball> Guest96708: It's just a limitation of BIOS. It has no impact on your system otherwise
[05:49] <Guest96708> hateball: sorry but if there were no difference then why would they put that choice?
[05:50] <hateball> Guest96708: You're doing manual partitioning, that assumes you know what you're doing. If you just let the wizard do it there's no such choice
[05:50] <Guest96708> hateball: i'll install another OS which deserves primary partition, and it's issues with bootloader
[05:52] <zykotick9> awolf: fyi, ubuntu unlike some other ditros leaves /home/foo directories with READ permission for OTHER.  some people don't appreicate this default.
[05:52] <bluefalcon> Anyone have much experience with reaver on ubuntu?
[05:52] <elisa87> snowrichard is that version of Android SDK different from the version Facebook Developer has provided?
[05:53] <awolf> ok, I really got my home directory messed up
[05:53] <awolf> I need help
[05:54] <Guest96708> i got it, thank you for response
[05:55] <awolf> oh fuck now I try to go to my home directory in console and it says -bash cd: aaron: Permission denied!
[05:55] <bazhang> awolf, no cursing here
[05:56] <awolf> sorry
[05:56] <awolf> ok sorry, I know tons of people pop up here frustrated
[05:56] <awolf> I will be very grateful for help
[05:57] <awolf> How do I change my home folder permissions so I can get it working again?
[05:57] <grizlo42> if i have a local .deb package that has unmet dependencies, how do i install them?
[05:57] <KM0201> awolf: you'll probably have to boot recovery mode and do it via command line.
[05:57] <awolf> I'm in command line
[05:58] <awolf> KM0201: what command gets my home folder permissions back?
[05:59] <KM0201> awolf: i'm really not sure.
[05:59] <snowrichard> did you change the owner of your home directory or just the permissions
[05:59] <awolf> I think just the permissions
[05:59] <snowrichard> ls -l /home/user would tell you
[05:59] <snowrichard> if your account was user
[05:59] <visof> hello
[06:00] <Guest96708> hateball: should I create on primary extended partition and add /boot, /, swap over there into slices?
[06:00] <awolf> ls: cannot access home/aaron/aaron: Permission denied
[06:00] <awolf> !!
[06:01] <awolf> I should do it with sudo maybe?
[06:01] <KM0201> awolf: you have to do it from recovery... i don't think that requires sudo.
[06:01] <hateball> Guest96708: that would work
[06:01] <awolf> Oh ok
[06:01] <KM0201> awolf: recovery mode, logs you in as root automatically
[06:01] <devslash> I upgraded ubuntu server to 12.10 and now when I boot, my server hangs at "atkbd seri0: >Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9e on isa0060/serio0)" "Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known." I can only fully boot in recovery mode which is of course not ideal.. any help?
[06:02] <hateball> Guest96708: Personally I make /boot and swap primary, then whatever else extended (if I bother to partition manually)
[06:02] <awolf> got it
[06:02] <awolf> un momento
[06:02] <starbuck33> hi, i got lots of .deb packages from my old ubuntu installation and copied them into /var/cache/apt/archives/ ... unfortunately apt-get doesn't recognize them and wants to download the packages again, even if they are the exact same version, same crc etc... - so, how can i make apt-get to learn that the packages are already there???
[06:03] <KM0201> awolf: once you get logged in as root, cd to home (cd /home) and ls -l
[06:03] <KM0201> and post what it says about your home folder
[06:03] <awolf> drw-r--r-- 4 root root 4096 Oct 19 01:29 aaron
[06:04] <KM0201> ok...
[06:04] <KM0201> try this... chown -R aaron:aaron /home/username
[06:04] <Guest96708> hateball: so that I can install many linux partitions into extended, right? --but since I won't install another linux but *bsd which has nothing to do with linux swap (it has *bsd-swap in gpt) and grub boot interferes with *bsd, dunno exactly about bootloader whether to create out of exended or inside? 9.9
[06:04] <zetheroo> how do I check which ports are open on my system?
[06:04] <KM0201> (assuming aaron is your username)
[06:04] <CoolCoder> I have tried to upgrade ubuntu 11.4 to new version. But so many issues. First was it says no disk space. There is a total of 200GB disk alloted for Ubuntu and there is nothing other than softwares installed. But not sure why its full. The next is, I tried to upgrade the present version. And getting these issues http://pastebin.com/ynQD468E .I am doing reference to fix this for last 2 days and nothing gives the solution
[06:05] <Mechdave> awolf, what did you do to your /home directory?
[06:05] <devslash> cool_code: i had the same error for unable to fetch urls. just keep trying
[06:05] <awolf> so the last part, where you typed username, I should keep that as "username" or make it "aaron" ?
[06:05] <KM0201> Mechdave: apparently really jacked it up..lol
[06:05] <hateball> Guest96708: I have no idea about dualbooting with BSD. Sorry.
[06:05] <awolf> I was trying what somebody said about moving my home directory to see if it fixed something else
[06:05] <KM0201> awolf: whatever your username is, use it in all three spots (looking at that, i assumed your username was aaron)
[06:05] <awolf> got it
[06:06] <Mechdave> awolf, you need to chmod your /home
[06:06] <Mechdave> chown rather
[06:06] <KM0201> Mechdave: thatws what we just did
[06:06] <KM0201> it was owned by root.
[06:06] <awolf> well, I did chown -R aaron:aaron /home/aaron just now
[06:06] <KM0201> awolf: now, after you do that, try ls -l and see what it says
[06:06] <Mechdave> Not a good thing if you want to log in :)
[06:07] <KM0201> i dont see how that will keep him from logging in
[06:07] <Guest96708> Anybody with *bsd experience? im facing certain issues on boot loaders, bootmanager, etc.
[06:07] <devslash> any help with my issue is appreciated
[06:07] <awolf> ah now it looks right!
[06:07] <awolf> So I should restart and see
[06:07] <KM0201> awolf: now, try to reboot and see if it works.
[06:07] <awolf> Thanks for the help!
[06:07] <CoolCoder> devslash: I have been trying this for last 2 months
[06:07] <KM0201> awolf: thank me if it works..lol
[06:08] <Mechdave> awolf, you also need to make sure /home/aaron is owned by you but /ome is owned by root still
[06:08] <awolf> ok
[06:08] <KM0201> Mechdave: the only thing we changed, was /home/aaron.. we didn't mess w/ /
[06:08] <awolf> still failed
[06:09] <KM0201> hell, it might be easier to just reinstall.
[06:09] <awolf> No way
[06:09] <KM0201> why no way?
[06:09] <awolf> It's just this one thing, I'll get it
[06:09] <KM0201> yeah, hopefully
[06:09] <awolf> Because I didn't back up that recently, not for a few weeks, cause I was lazy
[06:10] <Mechdave> awolf, way I have overcome the problem is just back up your /home directory and then delete it from the /home and then log back in again. The system should recreate your home directory
[06:10] <KM0201> well,  you can still backup... you could probably just boot a live cd, and b ackup to an external drive.
[06:10] <awolf> yeah
[06:10] <KM0201> hmm, Mechdave thats an interesting way to solve this.
[06:10] <awolf> but I think I can get it fixed
[06:10] <KM0201> it makes sense
[06:10] <user__> Why doesn't libnss3-1d install on clean Ubuntu 12.04.1?
[06:10] <cheshair> Hi! I am upgrading to 12.10 from my 12.04. The installer is stuck. Can you help me?
[06:10] <ivan82> hello everyone
[06:11] <awolf> ok back at root
[06:11] <KM0201> user__: dunno... what are you trying to install?
[06:11] <KM0201> !12.10 | cheshair
[06:11] <KM0201> cheshair: why are you upgrading a server to a beta release?
[06:11] <Mechdave> awolf, I always drop to a console and log out of graphical mode and then copy all the files in my $HOME to another drive. Then all your permissions are preserved. Rough I know, but it works :)
[06:11] <DaemonicApathy> 12.10 is not beta.
[06:11] <KM0201> then what is it?
[06:11] <awolf> Ok
[06:11] <DaemonicApathy> A Release.
[06:12] <KM0201> oh did it release?
[06:12] <thrasher194> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[06:12] <CreativeRound> Hello...how do I hide that I'm using ubuntu in the server header?
[06:12] <KM0201> geez, show i've been asleep forever
[06:12] <cheshair> KM0201: did I mention I am upgrading a server?
[06:12] <ivan82> Is there any one else in here having trouble with Java on  Ubuntu 12.10?
[06:12] <KM0201> yes, you did.
[06:12] <KM0201> try #ubuntu-server
[06:12] <Mechdave> KM0201, I always do a fresh install when upgrading to a newer version. Less problems that way :)
[06:12] <awolf> So, I am back at root, went to home, did ls -l, and got: drwxr-xr-x 2 aaron aaron 4096 then the date
[06:12] <KM0201> Mechdave: same here
[06:12] <awolf> I am not on 12.10 btw! This has nothing to do with updating!
[06:13] <cheshair> KM0201: when did I mention a server?
[06:13] <awolf> I'm on 12.04, and I was just doing unrelated troubleshooting
[06:13] <KM0201> awolf: not sure if it helps, but here's mine drwxr-xr-x 50 ken ken 4096 Oct 18 17:07 ken
[06:13] <cheshair> KM0201: I am upgrading my desktop pc
[06:13] <Mechdave> awolf, you need to log in as yourself in a console (ctrl + alt + f1)
[06:13] <KM0201> cheshair: i guess i read the wrong one, my bad
[06:14] <onats> is there a how to so i can setup cloud/openstack/juju/maas on desktop  version?
[06:14] <awolf> ok thanks
[06:14] <CoolCoder>  tried to upgrade the present version. And getting these issues http://pastebin.com/ynQD468E .I am doing reference to fix this for last 2 days and nothing gives the solution. Any help for this forum???
[06:14] <cheshair> KM0201: ok, it happens
[06:14] <KM0201> awolf: other than that "50" and yours being a "2" ours look the same
[06:14] <Mechdave> awolf, then copy all your files to elsewhere, then delete /home/aaron
[06:14] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: Where is the installer stuck?
[06:15] <awolf> Mechdave, thanks for the help. I'm logging back in
[06:15] <ivan82> Any one else having trouble installing and running Java on  Ubuntu 12.10???
[06:16] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: hi! I have the gui installer open in front of me. It's stuck at "Installing the upgrades", the black shell on the bottom says: http://dpaste.com/815433/
[06:16] <awolf> ok logged in as myself
[06:16] <ivan82> iiii/help
[06:17] <DaemonicApathy> !patience | ivan82
[06:17] <xangua> (01:04:35) CoolCoder: I have tried to upgrade ubuntu 11.4 to new version. - how  ¿exactly are you trying to do that¿
[06:17] <awolf> I got a message "No directory, loggin in with HOME=/
[06:17] <Mechdave> awolf, now you can start copying files back again, checking permissions as you go :)
[06:17] <ivan82> Sorry I was trying to type /help to see if there were any help topics
[06:17] <awolf> I haven't moved anything yet
[06:17] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: How long has it been there?
[06:18] <CoolCoder> xangua: when i logs in, i gets a message to upgrade. when i does it says some errors like no disk space
[06:18] <cairne> clear
[06:18] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: forever! :-D it's 12 hours now and I have a good hw
[06:18] <CoolCoder> xangua: And even if i dont upgrade, i cant even update the present version
[06:18] <knoppies> how do I look at the log of what scrolls by when my computer boots? I use XFCE.
[06:18] <awolf> Is there a way to just change the name of my directory and make a new empty home directory?
[06:18] <awolf> Then I'll copy things back
[06:18] <xangua> CoolCoder: just remove the repositories it mention
[06:18] <awolf> That's what I was trying to do in the first place
[06:18] <knoppies> awolf, yes.
[06:19] <Mechdave> awolf, type echo $HOME in a console and paste what it says
[06:19] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: I'm not sure why it's having problems with grub, but your quickest olution is probably to backup everything important, and install cleanly.
[06:19] <DaemonicApathy> s/olution/solution
[06:19] <awolf> it just says "/"
[06:19] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: doh... so sorry about this
[06:19] <Mechdave> awolf, ok now log in as root, mkdir /home/aaron
[06:20] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: Don't be, it happens.
[06:20] <SoKaR28> hi guys
[06:20] <awolf> can I just sudo or no?
[06:20] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: thank you very much for your time and help
[06:20] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: Any time.
[06:20] <Mechdave> awolf, then chown -R aaron:aaron /home/aaron
[06:20] <SoKaR28> Can someone help me? :)
[06:20] <awolf> Wait, I still have a folder with my name though, so I need to change that name first before making a new directory I think
[06:21] <awolf> so do mv right?
[06:21] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: is there any way to report this problem? so they may solve it in the future
[06:21] <DaemonicApathy> !anyone | SoKaR28
[06:21] <Mechdave> awolf, did you back up and delete the original /home/aaron directory?
[06:21] <awolf> no
[06:21] <ivan82> !details
[06:21] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: May people are having problems upgrading. The most I could suggest is submitting a bug on Launchpad.
[06:21] <Mechdave> awolf, you need to do that
[06:21] <ivan82> !gq
[06:21] <awolf> ok
[06:22] <finder_> hi
[06:22] <D3RGPS31> nautilus isn't displaying picture thumbnails :l but thumbnails are being generated; wat do
[06:22] <finder_> i am very new for xchat on ubuntu
[06:22] <finder_> can anyone help me?
[06:22] <Ramzeth_> Hi all. I have a question. Can i somehow use persistent mode with casper-rw, placed on my HDD instead of USB ?
[06:22] <SoKaR28> I just updated 12.04 to 12.10 and I have no UI, just the wallpaper. It appears to that my cg is not recognized
[06:22] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: I see, thanks again, see you!
[06:22] <DaemonicApathy> !anyone | finder
[06:22] <DaemonicApathy> See you, cheshair. Happy installing.
[06:22] <DaemonicApathy> (Should be an hour or two, max.
[06:22] <SoKaR28> too
[06:23] <finder_> I used mirc on the windows and i have used to connect dalnet channel.
[06:23] <knoppies> D3RGPS31, there are settings for when to display thumbnails (you can restrict it to display thumbnails under a certain size or on the local filesystem only etc) Do you think it could be that?
[06:23] <finder_> How can i connect dalnet channel using xchat on ubuntu?
[06:23] <SoKaR28> unity does not appear
[06:23] <D3RGPS31> knoppies: i checked there, the settings are the same as before i upgraded to 12.10 :v
[06:23] <DaemonicApathy> SoKaR28: have you tried starting Unity from the command line?
[06:24] <serban> SoKaR28: do you have an ati video card?
[06:24] <SoKaR28> no I'm a noob :)
[06:24] <SoKaR28> yes
[06:24] <serban> what one
[06:24] <serban> *which
[06:24] <knoppies> D3RGPS31, hmmm, I haven't upgraded yet so I can't think of anything that might cause that problem.
[06:24] <SoKaR28> HD3760
[06:25] <brady> if i installed 32 bit ubuntu, installed a bunch of stuff and kind of lived in it a bit, is it possible to change the system to 64 bit?  i didnt realize that my system would support it at the time
[06:25] <NoNaMeNo> hi, for some reason I am havinga very bad performance under ubuntu 12.10, it boots fine but then after some tiem of use ( minutes ) the system becomes painfully slow, I am using a dual head with two large screens and a RV670PRO open source driver. Any known issue?
[06:25] <SoKaR28> woops 3670
[06:25] <D3RGPS31> brady: no :v
[06:25] <brady> waa wahhhh
[06:26] <Mechdave> brady, yes. Just reinstall with a 64 bit install but save your /home partition if you have one
[06:26] <D3RGPS31> Mechdave: he'd have to backup his list of installed packages, and maybe his /etc :l
[06:26] <brady> interesting
[06:28] <Mechdave> D3RGPS31, You can get a list of installed packages from apt-get. As long as the $HOME is preserved then nearly everything will be saved
[06:28] <serban> SoKaR28: i have the same issue, the problem is there isnt a patch for the ati drivers, the supported cards with the proprietary drivers are at: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware Also, Catalyst 12.4 supports kernel  <= 3.2
[06:28] <brady> it would be awsome if someone has created some sort of migration utlity
[06:29] <ivan82> I guess I will rewrite my question:  I installed 12.10 and it shows that Java is not installed. I went to java.com and installed java. I also went through Software center and I also tried the  Terminal and typed out the command to get it. It still shows that I do not have java installed or properly installed when I go to java.com to check. Is Java not supported on 12.10??
[06:29] <serban> SoKaR28: there *will* be a solution here: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[06:29] <Ramzeth_> Can i somehow use persistent mode with casper-rw, placed on my HDD instead of USB ?
[06:29] <Mechdave> brady, I don't know of any migration between 32 and 64 bit
[06:29] <serban> SoKaR28: but atm, it is not done yet.
[06:29] <SoKaR28> ok
[06:29] <brady> no i ment the backup process
[06:30] <D3RGPS31> nautilus isn't displaying thumbnails (of anything), but thumbnails are being generated (and they're correct), wat do :v
[06:30] <SoKaR28> thanks
[06:30] <Mechdave> brady, there is a backup program available for Ubuntu
[06:30] <SoKaR28> Its why I have no ui too?
[06:30] <xflr6> Hi everybody, I have a problem for formatting a HDD of 2To. Whereas gparted always manage to create a GPT and to make an ext4 partition, it is never recognized at the end, nor by gparted, nor by anything else that I tried up to date
[06:31] <Dragonster82> Awesome.
[06:31] <serban> SoKaR28: yeah, most probably. You can use CTRL+ALT+T to open a terminal and install gnome3 in the meantime
[06:31] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: when you say 'at the end' what do you mean
[06:31] <DaemonicApathy> D3RGPS31: check out in a Nautilus folder > Edit > Preferences > Preview > Thumbnails
[06:31] <xflr6> Any experts on that problem ? (I have the feeling that there is on top of that a problem of sectors)
[06:31] <D3RGPS31> DaemonicApathy: that's not the issue :l
[06:32] <SoKaR28> ok
[06:32] <DaemonicApathy> Ok, no idea then.
[06:33] <xflr6> D3RGPS: gparted says after the mkfs.ext4 that operation was a success, but when it comes back to the partition, it appears like an unrecognize filesystem...
[06:33] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: could you try partitioning with gdisk and see if the outcome is similar? :v
[06:34] <xflr6> D3RGPS31: Well, I tried to look at it, but... where can I find help to use gdisk ?
[06:34] <ubuntufan> wooooooooooO!
[06:35] <ubuntufan> Why is the #ubuntu-release-party almost empty?
[06:35] <knoppies> how do I look at the log of what scrolls by when my computer boots? I use XFCE.
[06:35] <ubuntufan> I have Ubuntu 12.10 BETA 2, should I apt-get UPGRADE?
[06:35] <DaemonicApathy> ubuntufan: Go for it.
[06:35] <KiLuMnaTi> amazing ubuntu intalled it for the first time on my htpc
[06:35] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: it's not in the default install/livecd :v have to install it ($ apt-get install gdisk) :v then just $ man gdisk
[06:36] <knoppies> ubuntufan, if it fails what will you lose?
[06:36] <KiLuMnaTi> luv the audio out now..
[06:36] <KiLuMnaTi> sounds good on my hometheatre
[06:36] <ubuntufan> I hope It doesnt, Ubuntu 12.10 is nice:)
[06:36] <KiLuMnaTi> ya im on 12.10 now
[06:36] <D3RGPS31> knoppies: i think dmesg v:
[06:36] <xflr6> already installed. will have a look on the manpoage
[06:37] <cheshair> Hi! I have a 64bit desktop system and want to install ubuntu. Should I use ubuntu32bit or 64bit?
[06:37] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: How much memory do you have?
[06:38] <KiLuMnaTi> where is myunity in 12.10?
[06:38] <Flynsarmy> hmmm. i'm attempting to back up my home dir to a NTFS drive but zip keeps failing with permission errors - probably because python, googlechrome, wine and a few other folders have symlinks that lead to /etc folders...how can I get around this?
[06:38] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: 8GB
[06:38] <DaemonicApathy> KiLuMnaTi: needs to be installed.
[06:38] <ubuntufan> Did anyone go to the party at #ubuntu-release-party channel?
[06:38] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: 64bit.
[06:38] <cheshair> DaemonicApathy: you saved me again, thanks!!
[06:38] <Calinou> Flynsarmy: why do you use chrome? use chromium.
[06:38] <Flynsarmy> ubuntufan: nobody did it seems. was a graveyard in there. only 300 odd
[06:38] <DaemonicApathy> cheshair: Any time.
[06:38] <Calinou> it's funny how people trade their privacy for a different logo
[06:38] <Calinou> 8D
[06:38] <Flynsarmy> Calinou: that response doesn't help me in teh slightest
[06:39] <Calinou> because it doesn't, it's so useful
[06:39] <KiLuMnaTi> DaemonicApathy dont see it in the app
[06:39] <D3RGPS31> Flynsarmy: could try --symlinks (looked at the manpage, idk)
[06:39] <brady> what do you mean trade your privacy for a diffrent logo?
[06:39] <KiLuMnaTi> DaemonicApathy its not in the ubuntu software store
[06:39] <D3RGPS31> i'm still without thumbnails :c now i have to read the file names
[06:39] <KiLuMnaTi> centre i meant
[06:40] <ubuntufan> Is install Adobe Reader a good choice?
[06:40] <Flynsarmy> D3RGPS31: thanks, will give it a shot
[06:40] <DaemonicApathy> KiLuMnaTi: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:myunity/ppa sudo && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install myunity
[06:41] <DaemonicApathy> Minus the second sudo...
[06:41] <D3RGPS31> no more colourful little pony thumbnails :c
[06:41] <KiLuMnaTi> is there a live wallpaper theme for ubuntu?
[06:42] <DaemonicApathy> Just for self-correction, KiLuMnaTi: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:myunity/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install myunity
[06:42] <KiLuMnaTi> DaemonicApathy bit of a noob at linux so just paste that in terminal?
[06:42] <ubuntufan> ls
[06:43] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, KiLuMnaTi.
[06:43] <Calinou> ubuntufan: nope.
[06:43] <Calinou> get a real free reader
[06:43] <KiLuMnaTi> how come its no in the ubuntu software centre anymore?
[06:44] <DaemonicApathy> KiLuMnaTi: Give it time.
[06:44] <ubuntufan> Calinou, Evince doesnt have the functionality as Adobe has. I dont know any other. Can you recommend some?
[06:44] <Calinou> explain "doesn't have the functionality adobe has"?
[06:44] <Calinou> search "pdf" in software center
[06:44] <jefferson> olá
[06:44] <ubuntufan> It has limited viewing options
[06:45] <ubuntufan> In Adobe I can select the exact zoom I want
[06:45] <Calinou> it still works and doesn't trash your freedom; if it doesn't, tell the guys who are sending you that pdf they're idiots
[06:45] <Calinou> it's not like it is a primordial feature
[06:45] <Kartagis> !juju
[06:45] <xangua> ubuntufan: you can install adobe reader from software center
[06:45] <Calinou> have fun having your secret documents leaked
[06:46] <jefferson_> ola
[06:46] <exilarch> Has the gnome3 remix been officially released ?
[06:47] <ubuntufan> Remix by Who?
[06:47] <Calinou> http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/
[06:47] <Calinou> says "not for 12.10"
[06:48] <DaemonicApathy> exilarch: This one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10?action=show&redirect=UbuntuGNOME%2FReleaseNotes
[06:48] <exilarch> DaemonicApathy: Yes, I still read "beta isos"
[06:48] <DaemonicApathy> Indeed.
[06:49] <D3RGPS31> alright, nautilus isn't showing thumbnails 'cause it isn't generating them :l but the settings are 'local-only'; ~/.thumbnails isn't being generated
[06:50] <DaemonicApathy> D3RGPS31: What is the file size under "local files onli"?
[06:50] <D3RGPS31> DaemonicApathy: 2GB
[06:50] <DaemonicApathy> *only
[06:50] <thrasher194> ok,, im on 12.10
[06:50] <DaemonicApathy> D3RGPS31: Well, still no idea. I'm afraid I'm going to be useless to you today.
[06:51] <D3RGPS31> :c
[06:51] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, I jusr tried to use gdisk
[06:51] <xflr6> but not working...
[06:51] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: results not showing up?
[06:51] <mustu> hey why not a offical torrent for Ubuntu releases?
[06:52] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, I managed to create a linux fs (whole disk) with a gpt
[06:52] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, but parted -l tells me that disk signature / label (french used is label)  is not recognized
[06:52] <DaemonicApathy> mustu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads scroll down a little
[06:53] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: are you required to use parted when selecting an install partition?
[06:53] <ClientAlive> are "<" and ">" redirection characters on the comand line? or no.
[06:53] <akis>  is i just made a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04on my desktop and when the system starts, before the login screen, the desktop form black is coming with lines and the half background of xubuntu default background. then after log in screen everything is ok. my card is a nvidia. is it any way to avoid this issue?
[06:53] <Dragonster82> Hey does anyone know why is it that whenever I record my desktop its pretty laggy?
[06:53] <Dragonster82> It works perfectly smooth in Windows, though.
[06:53] <Calinou> mustu: because torrenting is almost useless
[06:53] <Calinou> - there's no decent crossplatform client
[06:53] <Calinou> - it's not necessarily faster
[06:53] <Glonet> Is there a channel for Asterisk help?
[06:53] <D3RGPS31> Dragonster82: could try changing the encoder :v or the quality settings
[06:53] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, no, I make parted -l just to print the tables
[06:54] <Calinou> akis: not really... some graphic drivers mess up with the loading screen
[06:54] <Joel_re_> Glonet: yes
[06:54] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, and the partition is for storage only
[06:54] <Joel_re_> Glonet: ##asterisk
[06:54] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, not for an install
[06:54] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: does '$ gdisk /dev/sdX -l' show anything
[06:55] <inashdeen> hi there. Just an enquiry. do i need to use itunes to open my files on my ipad3 on ubuntu. Or is it enough to just plug and play the ipad to my ubuntu?
[06:55] <SuperLag> What's the +mac in some of the file names for the Ubuntu downloads?
[06:55] <xangua> inashdeen: that depends of the iOS version you have
[06:55] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, Yes, he does: "Caution: invalid main GPT header, but valid backup: regenrating main header from backup"
[06:56] <Glonet> ok thx Joel_re_
[06:56] <Glonet> i will try that
[06:56] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, which is JUST THE FIRST line ... There are also stuffs like "Caution: after loading partition, the CRC doesnt check out"
[06:56] <pressto_> h
[06:57] <pressto_> d
[06:57] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, and also "Warning! main and backup partiotion tables differ"
[06:57] <inashdeen> xangua : ios6
[06:57] <xangua> inashdeen: anyways is always a never ending story, when a new ubuntu is released it supports the current iOS, then iOS release a new version and the support is broken
[06:57] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: :L idk what else to do
[06:57] <Guest96708> Does grub stay into HDD after installing another OS?
[06:57] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: does the disk support SMART monitoring?
[06:57] <akis> Calinou: yea thats right is a mess up of the loading screen. but i didnt have the sameproblem loading ubuntu12.04 which i run it for a month  the same desktop. now i realize that a fresh install of xubuntu makes appear this issue. is it defenitely impossible to fix it or to force the system not to load the first screen before log in screen?
[06:58] <inashdeen> xangua : so is ios6 supported or not supported as of now?
[06:58] <qkit_> hi all
[06:58] <inashdeen> qkit_ : hi
[06:58] <D3RGPS31> Guest96708: with windows, no
[06:58] <Calinou> akis: driver updates might've caused that
[06:58] <qkit_> guys, how can i display the landscape system info before i login to computer?
[06:59] <xflr6> D3RGPS31, I guess it should (it a recent one), but standard disk utility of ubuntu (the stuff taht does th gparted job on ubuntu) says that it's not
[06:59] <DaemonicApathy> I somehow lost 4 hours in this room...
[06:59] <D3RGPS31> qkit_: could try editing /etc/init/tty#.conf though i don't think that would help :l just an idea
[07:00] <akis> Calinou: since yesterday i run ubuntu without any probl. to day i installed xubuntu and i am faced with it. its not big but is annoying. both systems doesnt run the same driver for my nvidia?
[07:00] <xangua> inashdeen: and what ubuntu version¿ well if you have the latest i guess iOS should be supported
[07:00] <Guest96708> D3RGPS31: does it remain after BSDs?
[07:00] <D3RGPS31> Guest96708: that idk ;3
[07:01] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: i don't know what else to do v: could try asking in ##linux
[07:01] <xangua> i gues iOS 6* should be supported, but again inashdeen, after a while there will be a new iOS release and the support will be broken
[07:01] <DaemonicApathy> akis: what version of xubuntu?
[07:01] <xflr6> thks anyway
[07:01] <D3RGPS31> xflr6: good luck; hope it isn't something bad
[07:01] <md_5> Been plaguing me since 12.10 beta 1, but in 12.04 I had a show the desktop icon which I added with MyUnity, MyUnity does not work anymore and I want the show desktop back
[07:01] <xflr6> I hope so !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's new hardware... See you  !
[07:02] <Guest96708> D3RGPS31: okay, theni gotta install Windows to clean grub, thank you
[07:02] <Calinou> md_5: hi ubuntu user!
[07:02] <md_5> I also have a blank, undeletable account in 'online accounts
[07:02] <Calinou> you need to use a ppa
[07:02] <Calinou> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:myunity/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install myunity
[07:02] <inashdeen> xangua : i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS :)
[07:02] <Calinou> paste into terminal
[07:02] <akis> DaemonicApathy: the newest. 12.04.
[07:02] <DaemonicApathy> md_5: run in a terminal to install MyUnity: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:myunity/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install myunity
[07:02] <md_5> yeah yeah doing it
[07:02] <Calinou> DaemonicApathy: too late, I beat you to it
[07:03] <md_5> thought that would be the answer
[07:03] <inashdeen> xangua : i am asking because i try to persuade my friend who is using ipad3 to try ubuntu on his system. He hates itunes. + i will never use an apple product myself. Ugh.. please. Never
[07:03] <md_5> anyway this online account issue is annoying me more
[07:03] <md_5> cant find where it is stored
[07:03] <md_5> gsettings/gconf... config file, no clue
[07:03] <md_5> hmm
[07:03] <Calinou> inashdeen: first, applause at your friend, then throw his ipad away, say "finally", ???, PROFIT
[07:03] <md_5> I see 'Ubuntu web account id X in password'
[07:03] <md_5> (s)
[07:03] <DaemonicApathy> Calinou: so you did. Good job. ^_^
[07:03]  * md_5 deletes them all
[07:04] <md_5> any idea where the credentials in password manager are actually stored?
[07:04] <imgx64> When shutting down a 12.10 LiveCD session, I get "The system is going down for reboot NOW! modem-manager[1406] <info> Caught signal 15, shutting down..." and nothing happens.. I have to ctrl-alt-F7 then press Enter.
[07:04] <akis> DaemonicApathy: the newest. 12.04. any comment?
[07:04] <gordonjcp> ejv: re GUI apps on a server - I can understand starting from Ubuntu Server to build a customised desktop but I can't think of any GUI apps at all that make sense on a server
[07:05] <DaemonicApathy> akis: The newest is now 12.10, but with 12.04 I was expecting an easier time. Sorry, I don't know.
[07:05] <md_5> that ppa 404's on update @ Calinou , DemonicApathy
[07:05] <inashdeen> Calinou : I don't seem to see sarcarsm as a great way to bring new people to ubuntu. Have u seen my ubuntu project. I suppose u can visit here for more info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/inashdeen
[07:05] <akis> DaemonicApathy: ok i meant the newest LTS.
[07:06] <DaemonicApathy> akis: fair enough
[07:06] <akis> DaemonicApathy: what do you mean?
[07:06] <linuxsage> am running ubuntu 12.04 and the login prompts twice for authentication after installing some packages, I think its something to do with the pam files but I know how to go about
[07:07] <DaemonicApathy> md_5: Hm, it worked fine before.
[07:07] <md_5> brb relogging to see if my accounts hack worked
[07:07] <imgx64> So, if there is a bug on the install DVD, will it ever be fixed? (before the next release, that is)
[07:08] <md_5> seems that did not remove my online accounts
[07:09] <DaemonicApathy> akis: You might try 'nvidia-xconfig' and restart the x-server. Otherwise, my best guess would be to run Ubuntu until it works, then install xfce on top.
[07:10] <md_5> gargh this is annoying
[07:10] <md_5> http://screencloud.net/v/mlZm
[07:10] <akis> DaemonicApathy: do i have to run nvidia-xconfig i a terminal or is there any gui application?
[07:11] <md_5> ➜  ~  sudo apt-get purge gnome-online-accounts
[07:12] <md_5> lets hope this works
[07:12] <Calinou> "I strongly disagree with people who always show user the "hard way", CLI, etc. , when the GUI is simply available" not sure if GUI fanboy... or trolling
[07:13] <DaemonicApathy> akis: Terminal
[07:13] <imgx64> Now that "alternate" CDs (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads ) are gone in 12.10, is there a way to do a non-gui install?
[07:13] <ludolan> Hi.
[07:13] <ludolan> i've got an ssl certificate.
[07:14] <akis> running nvidia-xconfig there is the possibility of customization?
[07:14] <ludolan> Is it possible to save/restore this certificate with private key to restore on an other OS (going to upgrade the host) ?
[07:14] <DaemonicApathy> imgx64: Ubuntu Server, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:14] <qkit> hmm. guys wonder does it possible to create dynamic /etc/issue (mean it will update the info show there)
[07:14] <DaemonicApathy> akis, I honestly do not know.
[07:15] <akis> ok. i am searchin in ubuntu forums and askubuntu for similar issue.  thanks.
[07:15] <DaemonicApathy> Np.
[07:16] <imgx64> DaemonicApathy: Will it install Apache/Postfix/etc automatically, or will it ask me what I want to install? I don't want to go around apt removing all sorts of server packages.
[07:16] <md_5> qkit yeah just add stuff to /etc/issue.d iirc
[07:16] <md_5> let me check I have it on one of my servers
[07:16] <chovynz> can someone talk to me about screen? im not sure how to use it
[07:16] <Calinou> chovynz: man screen
[07:16] <Calinou> screen -R screenname
[07:17] <Calinou> screen -ls
[07:17] <Calinou> pretty much the only three commands you need to know
[07:17] <Calinou> and ctrl+a then ctrl+d to detach a screen
[07:17] <chovynz> yeah, man is techno babble which is why im here :)
[07:17] <qkit> md_5 strangely, i dont have /etc/issu.d
[07:17] <md_5> qkit yeah its not that
[07:17] <DaemonicApathy> imgx64: No idea, it was just the only non-gui install I could think of.
[07:17] <md_5> trying to find where I put these files
[07:18] <imgx64> DaemonicApathy: Ok thanks, I'll try and see for myself.
[07:18] <DaemonicApathy> imgx64: Good luck.
[07:18] <onto> Hello! I am trying to install a graphic tablet following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen. However, whenever I try to draw something the mouse cursor jumps to the topleft and I cannot calibrate using wizardpen-calibrate since there is no /dev/tablet-event device
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> How exactly are the alternate ISOs different?
[07:21] <onto> I am running ubuntu 10.04
[07:21] <KiLuMnaTi> DaemonicApathy myunity never showed up
[07:21] <KiLuMnaTi> after i installed it in termainal
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> KiLuMnaTi: Apparently it's not working like it did before. My apologies.
[07:22] <imgx64> DaemonicApathy: Non-gui installer, and you could choose to install a completely non-gui system. It couldn't boot to a live system though.
[07:22] <KiLuMnaTi> k np
[07:23] <KiLuMnaTi> thanks though ill wait for it to be on the software centre..
[07:23] <KiLuMnaTi> time for me to hit the sack.. gnite
[07:23] <KiLuMnaTi> thanks everyone for your help
[07:23] <chovynz> how do i use screen? do I open screen before doing something in terminal, so that I can switch to a different session while the job is running?
[07:24] <DaemonicApathy> imgx64: Sounds like the server install minus some packages, to me. I'll have to try out the last one. Thanks for the info.
[07:24] <qkit> md_5:any result?
[07:25] <DaemonicApathy> chovynz: Essentially. Calinou outlined it pretty well.
[07:25] <imgx64> DaemonicApathy: By default, it actually installed a normal gui system (you had to change the options to install a non-gui system).
[07:26] <^Lady-Buntu^> can someone help with my numerous issues? :( i guess i cannot ditch windows 8 after all...
[07:26] <chovynz> DaemonicApathy:   Calinou: I'm typing those screen commands and I'm seeing what they do: I have three screens, two attached. How do I read the output of screen -ls? Is there a stack?
[07:26] <akis> DaemonicApathy: i run nvidia-xconfig i a terminal and i got command not found. i suppose that nvidia driver is not installed.  is that possible?
[07:26] <DaemonicApathy> !anyone | ^Lady-Buntu^
[07:27] <Kartagis> how do I export the $PATH `which` uses?
[07:27] <Kartagis> export $PATH didn't do it
[07:27] <DaemonicApathy> akis: Potentially. Do you have anything listed in System Settings > Additional Drivers?
[07:28] <^Lady-Buntu^> i cannot run any software updates ... it crashes every time
[07:28] <^Lady-Buntu^> "UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xeb in position 114: invalid continuation byte"
[07:28] <^Lady-Buntu^> when running software-properties-gtk
[07:29] <epic_> just now i have installed 12.10 version and my message icon is not there
[07:30] <epic_> my message icon in 12.10 is missing
[07:31] <matt_> anyone know how to get blacklight retribution working in ubuntu
[07:31] <D4rkH4nd> Anyone update to 12.10 yet. My desktop dont work right
[07:32] <akis> experimental nvdia, nvidia accelerated graphics driver v. 173, nvidia accelerated graphics driver v. 17-updates, nvidia accelerated graphics version current (recommended), nvidia accelerated graphics post release updates/version current-updates, nvidia accelerated graphics driver **experimental** beta/version experimental-304. On one is activated!!!
[07:32] <Guest1548> anyone know how to get blacklight retribution working in ubuntu
[07:33] <Valtam> D4rkH4nd, you're going to have to give a little more detail than that
[07:33] <^Lady-Buntu^> D4rkH4nd, i updated too and my desktop doesnt work either
[07:34] <D4rkH4nd> I cant right click or left click on it. All my short cuts are gone. My dock makes a HUGE black bar on top and bottom
[07:34] <bipul> i want's to know through which servers and nodes my packet data is being interchanged in my ubuntu12.04 lts
[07:34] <akis> DaemonicApathy: experimental nvdia, nvidia accelerated graphics driver v. 173, nvidia accelerated graphics driver v. 17-updates, nvidia accelerated graphics version current (recommended), nvidia accelerated graphics post release updates/version current-updates, nvidia accelerated graphics driver **experimental** beta/version experimental-304. On one is activated!!!
[07:34] <D4rkH4nd> akis: Use a past link please to much text lol
[07:34] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, akis. You don't need to repeat. You can play around with those a bit, and see which works best for you.
[07:35] <md_5> qkit /etc/update-motd.d
[07:35] <md_5> place scripts in there
[07:35] <^Lady-Buntu^> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/jockey-gtk: No such file or directory
[07:35] <akis> DaemonicApathy: misstype. No one is activated.
[07:35] <qkit> md_5: but that info only appear after i login to machine
[07:35] <^Lady-Buntu^> jockey-gtk | 0.9.7-0ubuntu11 | http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe amd64 Packages
[07:35] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, then feel free to activate the recommended one.
[07:35] <md_5> qkit hm?
[07:35] <^Lady-Buntu^> nothing fsckin works in 12.10
[07:35] <^Lady-Buntu^> everything is broken
[07:35] <Saria> is there anyway to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 yet?
[07:35] <qkit> md_5: i hope to configure the dynamic info show on the terminal :)
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> Saria: Clean install seems to work best.
[07:36] <chovynz> Saria: i suggest sticking to 12.04
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> Me too.
[07:36] <Saria> buut my files and settings
[07:36] <^Lady-Buntu^> Saria, yes dont fsckin upgrade
[07:36] <Saria> yeah ill stick to it for now
[07:36] <qkit> md_5:and i find out the /etc/issue where info display on terminal before login
[07:36] <^Lady-Buntu^> unless you like losing everything your computer is useful for
[07:36] <D4rkH4nd> How can i down grade from 12.10 to 12.04 please.
[07:36] <md_5> coincidentally I now have a ghost ssh session, how can I kill it (server side)
[07:37] <^Lady-Buntu^> yes how do we downgrade back to 12.04???
[07:37] <DaemonicApathy> D4rkH4nd: backup important things, clean install 12.04
[07:37] <^Lady-Buntu^> eg. the working version
[07:37] <D4rkH4nd> that sucks i cant down grade ?
[07:37] <^Lady-Buntu^> DaemonicApathy, ridiculous
[07:37] <DaemonicApathy> s/eg/ie
[07:37] <^Lady-Buntu^> if things are not going to work, then dont release it
[07:37] <^Lady-Buntu^> bs
[07:37] <chovynz> you can downgrade. clean install is the best way. make sure you have backups first
[07:37] <DaemonicApathy> I didn't do it, I swear.
[07:37] <ezoe> hmm, Ubuntu 12.10 broke Japanese font again. it use Chinese font.
[07:37] <chovynz> as DaemonicApathy said :)
[07:38] <^Lady-Buntu^> ezoe, all asians are the same to UBUNTU! ;)
[07:38] <DaemonicApathy> O_o
[07:38] <D4rkH4nd> well i can reinstall all my stuff easy. but dang some things like my video driver i have NO clue how to get again LOL
[07:38] <^Lady-Buntu^> it is very clear that this release was not tested at all
[07:38] <chovynz> *cough*
[07:38] <D4rkH4nd> Ya wth
[07:39] <DaemonicApathy> ^Lady-Buntu^: It works quite well for some.
[07:39] <md_5> qkit hm? http://screencloud.net/v/sleQ is what mine looks like
[07:39] <^Lady-Buntu^> "for some"
[07:39] <^Lady-Buntu^> wow...
[07:39] <akis> DaemonicApathy: ok thanks. that's the point.
[07:39] <ezoe> ^Lady-Buntu^: Such an arrogance! You shall be trapped by proprietary software hell.
[07:39] <^Lady-Buntu^> good target
[07:39] <^Lady-Buntu^> Ubuntu 12.10: It "Just Works" for the 1% !!!
[07:39] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: I suggest focusing on one issue. pick something that we can help with rather than flaming here please :)
[07:39] <ezoe> so I had to put .fonts.conf in my home directory.
[07:39] <^Lady-Buntu^> For everyone else, the're windows 8
[07:39] <qkit> md_5: that is before you login to server?
[07:39] <^Lady-Buntu^> i suggest already and no one helped
[07:40] <arun__> In ifconfig, my wireless is appearing as eth2 instead of wlan0. Any ideas ?
[07:40] <akis> DaemonicApathy: in case that the systme cannot restart, what can i do to login to disable my choise?
[07:40] <^Lady-Buntu^> i cannot run software-properties-gtk
[07:40] <ezoe> also, just putting ~/.Xmodmap doesn't work.
[07:40] <md_5> qkit ..... when do you want this message to be? I swear your original question was edit ssh motd
[07:40] <^Lady-Buntu^> it crashes every time
[07:40] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: you know that this channel is run by volunteers and is not paid right? it's operated by people who are the same as you.
[07:40] <^Lady-Buntu^> $ software-properties-gtk 2>&1 | tr '\n' ' '
[07:40] <^Lady-Buntu^> gpg: /tmp/tmpck1ikp/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UbuntuDrivers/detect.py", line 162, in packages_for_modalias     cache_map = packages_for_modalias.cache_maps[apt_cache_hash] KeyError: 4580041  During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:  Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 103, in <mod
[07:40] <^Lady-Buntu^> ule>     app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, file=file)   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", line 178, in __init__     self.init_drivers()   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", line 1097, in init_drivers     self.devices = detect.system_device_drivers()   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/U
[07:40] <^Lady-Buntu^> buntuDrivers/detect.py", line 415, in system_device_drivers     for pkg, pkginfo in system_driver_packages(apt_cache).items():   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UbuntuDrivers/detect.py", line 319, in system_driver_packages     for p in packages_for_modalias(apt_cache, alias):   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UbuntuDrivers/detect.py", line 164, in packages_for_modalias     cache_map = _apt_cache_modalias_map(apt_cache)
[07:40] <FloodBot1> ^Lady-Buntu^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:40] <DaemonicApathy> akis: That is a good question, and well thought-out. I hope someone here knows how to disable video drivers from the command line, because it's much too late for me to remember.
[07:41] <riqdiiz> how  do i get my ubuntu 9.04 play  mp3?
[07:41] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: "normal people" who are interested in ubuntu. that's all this irc is. If someone knows how to help you they will. be patient. :)
[07:41] <ezoe> how could I automatically load .Xmodmap in Ubuntu 12.10?
[07:41] <epic_> message icon is missing in 12.10 after installation
[07:41] <DaemonicApathy> riqdiiz: install VLC
[07:42] <chovynz> riqdiiz: where have you got up to? what have you tried so far?
[07:42] <akis> DaemonicApathy: -:). too late because of your locale time or because of your age?!
[07:42] <DaemonicApathy> akis: time ;-)
[07:43] <akis> DaemonicApathy: yea -:). any way thanks.
[07:43] <Axsuul> Accessing my server gives me a 404, I look at my varnish and nginx logs (access and error) and it's not logging anything. Is there a log that I can check to see what's going on? The DNS is definitely setup correctly.
[07:43] <^Lady-Buntu^> Can noone assist with ability to install any updates? nothing works
[07:43] <Axsuul> I failed to mention.. on port 80
[07:43] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: do you know terminal?
[07:43] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, enough
[07:43] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, i can manage
[07:43] <md_5> anyone at all know where I can delete this stray online account manually?
[07:43] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: are you on the machine that you want to update?
[07:43] <riqdiiz> hi we've  got very poor servers for east africa any idea for best servers?
[07:44] <DaemonicApathy> md_5: I'm guessing the Delete Account button didn't work?
[07:44] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, yes it is updated, but i cannot get to additional dirvers setup config
[07:44] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, i am told jockey-gtk does this
[07:44] <md_5> DaemonicApathy ofc. I also deleted everything from the password manager bar my ssh keys, also didnt work
[07:44] <md_5> nor did apt-get pruge
[07:44] <md_5> jumping into the src now
[07:45] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: can you paste bin your error messages?
[07:46] <md_5> D: should be in .goa  but that doesnt exist
[07:46] <riqdiiz> I've tried apt-get install vlc but nothing comes up (
[07:46] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288712/
[07:46] <familycomputer> riqdizz have you tried editing your sources.list ?
[07:47] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> lol
[07:47] <qkit> md_5: i want it to be in the terminal when the computer bootup (before the user login
[07:47] <GirlyGirl> Has anyone tried Ubuntu 12.10 on lower end hardware such as a single core 1.6Ghz, 2GB Ram, Intel Gma 950? If so how does it perform?
[07:47] <md_5> qkit oh. I thought you meant ssh
[07:47] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: did you upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 or did you clean install 12.10?
[07:47] <md_5> qkit so disable X or just switch to tty1 by default
[07:47] <^Lady-Buntu^> GirlyGirl, yeah it sucks
[07:47] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, upgrade
[07:48] <md_5> qkit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836985 see post #6
[07:48] <md_5> change vt.handoff to 1
[07:48] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: do you have any possibility of backing up your important files and clean installing 12.10? It is usually the easiest way to do these things.
[07:48] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, Sound stops working 2 minutes after boot, wifi flaky, Unity 3D broken with my nvidia card, and cant update any packages!
[07:49] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, no
[07:49] <riqdiiz> yes i added the medbuntu,multiverse restricted  repos but nothing ...
[07:49] <epic_> lady-buntu-    i am running 12.10 on intel atom dual core 1.6ghz 2gb ram intel GMA 3150 it is working fine
[07:49] <^Lady-Buntu^> epic_, you are the 1%
[07:50] <familycomputer> riqdizz run 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:50] <familycomputer> updating the package sources .
[07:50] <familycomputer> have you tried that
[07:50] <GirlyGirl> epic_: How does gma 950 compare to gma 950?
[07:50] <GirlyGirl> epic_: 3150 to 950 sorry
[07:51] <chovynz> epic_: did you upgrade or clean install 12.10?
[07:51] <riqdiiz> yes i have ..
[07:51] <corp769> o/
[07:51] <Valtam> o/
[07:51] <aleksandar> how to fix my drivers problem
[07:51] <aleksandar> ubuntu 12.10 fglrx
[07:52] <aleksandar> alwasy starts gnome session fallback
[07:52] <epic_> chovynz = i always do clean install to avoid problems
[07:52] <aleksandar> read on arch forums that ati does not support X1.13
[07:52] <chovynz> epic_: wise man
[07:52] <epic_> chovynz = thnx
[07:52] <aleksandar> but I have no idea how to use testing
[07:52] <aleksandar> drivers in ubuntu
[07:52] <familycomputer> alright riqdiiz can you give me some info. did you do a fresh install of ubuntu?
[07:52] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: is there a different issue I can help with?
[07:53] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, sure -- how do i fix my nvidia issues? worked in 12.04
[07:53] <safa> hello all
[07:53] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: im reading your error pastebin and im doing some googling research, but in the mean time, anything else... ok nvidia
[07:53] <^Lady-Buntu^> now unity wont even run
[07:53] <familycomputer> whats up safa
[07:53] <epic_> GirlyGirl - GMA 3150 IS new in netbooks and 950 is old but they both are good enough for ubuntu or on small laptop
[07:54] <md_5> D: where has startup programs gone in 12.10
[07:54] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: what card have you?
[07:54] <^Lady-Buntu^> i get no menu bars in unity
[07:54] <safa> I have a problom with my 16gb flash
[07:54] <^Lady-Buntu^> is that normal?
[07:54] <riqdiiz> i have also tried to download the ffmpeg compressed tar but don't know how to install it  :(
[07:54] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: and what seems to be the problem. It sounds like not a card issue. Is unity broken?
 chovynz, sure -- how do i fix my nvidia issues?
[07:55] <Valtam> chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: what card have you?
[07:55] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: sorry. just thinking out loud
[07:55] <safa> I can't see it...
[07:55] <familycomputer> iv got you on that one riqdiiz as in compile the program itself huh?
[07:55] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, Valtam http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288728/
[07:56] <starbuck33> hello, is it possible to integrate pidgin in the mail symbol at the right side of the desktop bar?
[07:56] <epic_> Lady-buntu- - download it again without any interuption or without any pause then do a fresh install that will be your complete solution
[07:56] <riqdiiz> exactly . how?
[07:56] <^Lady-Buntu^> epic_, Unity has the same exact problem on another of my machines
[07:56] <^Lady-Buntu^> this realease sucks
[07:56] <^Lady-Buntu^> unity has no menu bars
[07:56] <familycomputer> ok so locate your package wherever you downloaded it and exract it
[07:56] <^Lady-Buntu^> guess back to gnome
[07:57] <os_> safa: u can't see your flash memory ??
[07:57] <epic_> lady-buntu -  try ubuntu in 2d mode
[07:57] <riqdiiz> Ok then?
[07:58] <safa> when I go to the disk utility program, it says that there is an unlocated partition in the flash
[07:58] <familycomputer> now open a terminal and cd your directory so type cd and drag the folder onto the terminal
[07:58]  * os_ back soon
[07:58] <qkit> md_5: i am running on tty, what i mean is, for system information display such as what landscape have. would it be possible to make it appear although the user no login?
[07:58] <akis> DaemonicApathy: i installed the recommended version of nvidia driver and the systme works fine. in ubuntu 12.04 was pre-installed because of Unity. it has details in driver description. in xubuntu doens need 3d graphics and that the reason that it wasnt preinstalled. but it had this issue. now everything is OK> thanks again!
[07:58] <safa> with size of 16gb
[07:58] <safa> what should I do?
[07:59] <md_5> qkit no, security reasons
[07:59] <md_5> and not sure it can easily be done
[07:59] <Jimster480-Lapto> my kernel works
[07:59] <Jimster480-Lapto> with my optimized scheduler
[07:59] <Jimster480-Lapto> :D
[07:59] <qkit> md_5: ok, thanks for the help :)
[08:00] <epic_> safa - try in different port or use disk utility
[08:00] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: this help at all? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073063
[08:00] <epic_> safa- if all they dont work then i have another solution
[08:00] <safa> epic_: I'm using disk utility !
[08:01] <epic_> safa- is your usb is showing?
[08:02] <safa> no, I dont see it in the unity panel
[08:02] <FrankW__> Just updated to QQ and it's a mess. For starters, what to do about cannot find slash tmp?
[08:02] <safa> or in the disks folder
[08:02] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: there is also this to check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946145
[08:02] <epic_> safa -  i think you have to use window OS
[08:02] <safa> it says that i must to format it !
[08:03] <blackshirt> safa_, is yur flash formated with fat32 windows ?
[08:03] <safa> oops :P    I dont know
[08:03] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, no dice
[08:04] <epic_> safa-  format it
[08:04] <safa> but disk utility says that its "linux 0x83"
[08:04] <blackshirt> safa_ ... Thats bad if you don't know it ... :d
[08:04] <johey> My Trackpoint on external keyboard is unusably configured in 12.10. In 12.04 it was perfect. Now it is very sensitive and has very low acceleration. How can I set this up? I've tried gpointing-device-setting with no success.
[08:04] <nokia> I have installed Webmin but when I use the command shell (webmin) I cannot install anything. Webmins command shell it doesnt automatically install you have to type y and it doesnt recognize y as yes
[08:04] <blackshirt> safa_, is there a important data i  your flash?
[08:05] <safa> of course!
[08:05] <safa> I wont came here if there is'nt important data!
[08:05] <familycomputer_> is it just me or does anyone still love using  gnome 2
[08:05] <epic_> safa- use window 7 for this problem
[08:05] <safa> only?
[08:06] <blackshirt> safa_, try to check disk,with fsck.... But backup your data was important step for you
[08:06] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: how big is your personal data on that machine? (Seriously, clean install is the only way I upgrade ubuntu now - I've had far too many issues in the past to try upgrading again. Backup and Clean install all the way for me. It doesn't even take an hour usually.)
[08:06] <Etherael> Installed a new hard disk, copied from the old one, everything works ok except two things, grub has not properly installed on the new disk, I had to manually boot from the grub command prompt (set root (hd0,2) ; kernel blah ; initrd blah; boot etc)
[08:07] <Etherael> and ecryptfs for my home directory won't mount anymore
[08:07] <Etherael> anyone know how to fix either of those?
[08:07] <blackshirt> nokia, webmin install command ? What you mean ?
[08:07] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, 200GB
[08:08] <epic_> safa- i think window 7 will do it, due to making it bootable device or any other transfer cause it requires format and 90% chance is you have to format it
[08:08] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: how much time are you willing to spend on fixing these issues? (cuz from experience it's not usually limited to one issue)
[08:08] <blackshirt> ethereal, i think you should reconfigure your grub for boot using new disk
[08:09] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, i really wish ubuntu teams would have done this
[08:09] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, you know...testing and such...
[08:09] <adac> after an update I now get this error message when starting nvidia-settings: https://gist.github.com/3916868 any Ideas?
[08:09] <epic_> lady-buntu - backup your data in other computer and do fresh install else problem will not solve
[08:09] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: they do test. they cannot and should not be expected to test for every single possible hardware combination
[08:09] <Etherael> Blackshirt: Is there a command to let the system figure out the appropriate method for doing that?
[08:09] <Etherael> grub-install /dev/sda didn't work
[08:10] <FrankW__> Just updated to 12.10 and so f'd I'm here by way of Windows What to do about cannot find (slash) tmp ?
[08:10] <epic_> Never ever uupgrade your ubuntu pc, just do a fresh install
[08:10] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: are you using teh recommended nvidia drivers?
[08:10] <FrankW__> How?
[08:11] <blackshirt> etherael, update-grub doesn't solve them ?
[08:11] <DaemonicApathy> LiveUSB/DVD/CD usually works best, FrankW__.
[08:11] <blackshirt> epic__, no, ubuntu very capable to do them ....
[08:12] <FrankW__> Also after the fact?
[08:12] <blackshirt> Apt was great system for doing upgrade
[08:12] <chovynz> FrankW__: backup your data, download iso, use live usb/cd, put data back on.
[08:12] <safa> I have a question... is this article is for my problem? http://www.rodsbooks.com/missing-parts/
[08:12] <blackshirt> I was for about 5 years with this system
[08:12] <chovynz> or partition your HD so that you dont need to move data at all
[08:12] <Etherael> blackshirt, http://pastie.org/private/c3ehrhm0fjgvlid6c6koag this looks promising right?
[08:12] <blackshirt> And never do fresh / reinstall
[08:12] <FrankW__>  Thanks
[08:12] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, how would i know
[08:13] <DaemonicApathy> FrankW__: Assuming a decent size partition, you can use Windows as temporary storage for anything important in Ubuntu, clean install Ubuntu, then move things back over.
[08:13] <^Lady-Buntu^> ubuntu says it should "just work"
[08:13] <DaemonicApathy> Too late. -_-
[08:13] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, how can i tell which nvidia driver to use?
[08:13] <epic_> safa- you can try gparted
[08:13] <blackshirt> etherael, exactly, i was sitting on handhel devices for now.. I can't follow your link given
[08:13] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia this might help
[08:14] <DaemonicApathy> chovynz: speaking of which, any opinion on how big to make / vs /home partitions?
[08:14] <Etherael> Blackshirt: Ok no problem, basically it's a bunch of found kernel and grub 2 and kernel and then updating followed by done with no error messages
[08:14] <Etherael> it looks to me like whatever it was trying to do it did.
[08:14] <blackshirt> etherael, looks grrat ...
[08:14] <blackshirt> great
[08:15] <Etherael> cool, I also got my ecryptfs recovered and mounted on a tmp partition, just copying all the content back to my home dir now.
[08:15] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. when I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again.
[08:15] <Etherael> not sure I understand why it was broken just by copying it over to begin with, but looks like no data loss.
[08:15] <chovynz> DaemonicApathy: I used to make / 10-20 GB. /home would whatever left. Swap is 2x Ram. Overkill, but it works and theres no reason not to nowdays with GB being so cheap.
[08:16] <DaemonicApathy> When doing manual partitions, I skip swap.
[08:16] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, thx
[08:16] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, will let u know if it fixes it
[08:16] <^Lady-Buntu^> chovynz, houw about for sound issues?
[08:16] <blackshirt> etherael, actually, if you move to new disk, you should tell grub to adjust your new disk/partition, commonly for the kernel and initrd
[08:16] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: ok lady. good luck.
[08:17] <ludolan> is it possible to save/restore an ssl certificate ? I'm going to change my server and want to restore it. Is it possible ?
[08:17] <blackshirt> etherael, different disk and partition have a different uuid ..
[08:17] <Etherael> Blackshirt: UUID and partition matter for ecryptfs?
[08:17] <linocisco> anybody has experience with QNAP LDAP log in from windows clients?
[08:18] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: alsa or pulse? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:19] <doomlord> can gnome-shell be made to trigger the expose view from *all* screen corners instead of just topleft; also can the top panel be filled with anythhing useful (launchers , globalmenu etc) instead of just a repeated title
[08:19] <blackshirt> etherael, for ecryptfs, you should have ecryptfs was loaded through initrd or kernel to make your crypted devices  accessible
[08:19] <chovynz> ^Lady-Buntu^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[08:19] <arturaz> hey guys. Any suggestions on what video card to get on 64 bit ubuntu? Any horror stories with amd/nvidia cards?
[08:19] <Etherael> Blackshirt: well at the end I was able to get access to it by ecryptfs-recover utility
[08:19] <Etherael> I just don't see why it couldn't have automounted it on login like it did previously
[08:19] <Etherael> exact same data and I had the passphrase.
[08:20] <Etherael> worked when I ran recover, seems weird that it would complain about normal mount
[08:21] <blackshirt> etherael, have you look at fstab files in old and new one ?
[08:21] <Etherael> blackshirt, yeah actually that's what I'm fixing now, new disk was too large to not need a separate /boot partition and I'm having some trouble getting /boot to automount.
[08:23] <ranjan> Hi all, how can i log each and every command executed on shell by all users in linux?
[08:23] <linux4All> hello ubuntu users o/ <3
[08:23] <blackshirt> etherael, you have different layout partition for old and new one, is that right?
[08:23] <linux4All> i first Os
[08:23] <Etherael> BlackBishop, Partition numbers coincide except for boot.
[08:24] <linux4All> my firts command was startx :3
[08:24] <Etherael> sda1 == sda1 on new disk, that kind of thing
[08:24] <Etherael> I noticed fstab had UUID format for sda1 but I changed it back to sda1 and that seems to have worked fine.
[08:24] <easyusername> Hi
[08:25] <blackshirt> etherael, okeY, just not automounted for your /home?
[08:25] <linux4All> how to make my vhost? i need help how to hide my ip ?
[08:26] <Valtam> linux4All, ask in #freenode
[08:26] <Etherael> blackshirt, Yeah cause it was an ecryptfs partition, nothing to do with real partitions.
[08:27] <timer_> Hello
[08:27] <linux4All> Valtam molto grazie :)
[08:27] <somsip> ranjan: maybe this could help http://serverfault.com/questions/40011/how-can-i-log-users-bash-commands http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6930527/bash-how-to-intercept-every-command
[08:28] <easyusername> I want to buy a ASUS U30JC, but I don't know if it has problems with nVidia card or battery duration. Any recommendation?
[08:29] <timer_> Have anyone an idea what the problem is, when I receive by UART only a limited amount of characters. On Windows I receive all correct so the hardware should be fine.
[08:29] <chovynz> probably not the place for it easyusername
[08:30] <linocisco> anybody has experience with QNAP LDAP log in from windows clients?
[08:30] <md_5> So I assume NO ONE knows how to remove this undeletable online account?
[08:30] <chovynz> !anyone | linocisco
[08:30] <Noskcaj> i just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and the side panel doesn't show up unless i hold down "super" i had myunity installed and i think thats the problem, any help
[08:31] <somsip> !details | md_5
[08:31] <linocisco> !gq
[08:31] <md_5> somsip mentioned it many times above, there is a 'null' account in the gnome online-accounts, wont manual delete, still there after removing everything but ssh+pgp keys from password manager
[08:31] <md_5> I need to know where I can manually/force remove it
[08:31] <linocisco> !poll
[08:32] <somsip> md_5: I scrolled up 4 pages and saw nothing. And I can't help you, sorry
[08:32] <somsip> linocisco: please chat with the bot in private if you're playing :)
[08:32] <linocisco> I dont know how to  QNAP LDAP log in from windows clients?
[08:32] <linocisco> somsip, I am not playing
[08:33] <easyusername> chovynz, why? any place to ask it? I want to install the last Ubuntu version, just saying...
[08:33] <linocisco> I checked #qnap. it is just dummy IRC channel with less than 10 users falling asleep
[08:33] <Noskcaj>  i just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and the side panel doesn't show up unless i hold down "super" i had myunity installed and i think thats the problem, any help
[08:33] <somsip> linocisco: if you want to address a factoid to someone, use | name, otherwise it looks like you're talking to yourself. And to tell yourself not to poll seemed...unusual
[08:34] <timer_> Have anyone an idea what the problem is, when I receive by UART only a limited amount of characters. On Windows I receive all correct so the hardware should be fine. I use an real COM and tested a lot of software but all show me the same.
[08:35] <chovynz> easyusername: oh i see why you are asking here then. Still, asking what laptop to buy so that you can install ubuntu, seems.... like you don't have an issue, rather that, you have difficulty making a decision.
[08:35] <chovynz> easyusername: I would google hardware compatibilty for ubuntu if you are really concerned.
[08:35] <somsip> !hardware | easyusername though not sure if it's up to date
[08:36] <chovynz> easyusername: other than that, most distros will run on new machines fairly well with a clean install.
[08:37] <easyusername> chovynz, somsip, ubottu. Thank you for all!
[08:37] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. when I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again. I tried recording it with Sound Recorder, but I can't get that to work.
[08:40] <Noskcaj> i just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and the side panel doesn't show up unless i hold down "super" i had myunity installed and i think thats the problem, any help
[08:41] <wookienz> hi guys need some help with nfs. When i try and connect ot he server i get stale handle. Other clients on the same network connect fine. Where shoud i start?
[08:45] <bretolius> I updated to 12.10 but want to roll back to 12.04.  My home folder is on a different drive/partition.  Other than havin to re-install some progras would it be a bad idea to keep this home partition and re-install the system partition on the older version?
[08:45] <gordonjcp> bretolius: no, that'll work just fine
[08:46] <bretolius> wow I love linux
[08:46] <gordonjcp> bretolius: it's worth making a backup of your /home partition first anyway
[08:46] <bretolius> there isnt anything importaint
[08:46] <bretolius> just some config files
[08:46] <gordonjcp> bretolius: if you've got time to waste, once you've made a backup chance /etc/apt/sources.list to point to Precise sources, and then try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:47] <gordonjcp> bretolius: it won't work but the resulting mayhem is hilarious
[08:47] <bretolius> lol
[08:47] <bretolius> I think I'll pass
[08:47] <blackshirt> gordonjpc, thats very risk with full blown ubuntu packages installed
[08:47] <gordonjcp> blackshirt: yes, I know
[08:48] <gordonjcp> blackshirt: but bretolius is going to nuke'n'pave anyway
[08:48] <gordonjcp> bretolius: why are you moving back to 12.04, anyway?
[08:48] <Phoebus> Ubuntu today failed to boot due to not being able to mount a secondary SCSI drive... any ideas to make it ignore that and try to re-mount later (once actually booting?)
[08:48] <blackshirt> gordonjcp, you should tell him
[08:48] <gordonjcp> just prefer the LTS version?
[08:49] <bretolius> things seems slower, startup and shutdown are more wonky
[08:49] <gordonjcp> blackshirt: tell him what?  And, "him" is an assumption ;-)
[08:49] <bretolius> im a him
[08:49] <gordonjcp> bretolius: early days
[08:49] <gordonjcp> bretolius: it seemed likely but I didn't want to make an assumption :-)
[08:49] <bretolius> all the PPAs that were disabled during the upgrade dont work now
[08:50] <gordonjcp> yeah, they're for Precise not Quantal
[08:50] <iceroot> Phoebus: normally ubuntu will say "cant mount foobar" would you like ti skip it. the default splash screen is offering that
[08:50] <gordonjcp> right, got to go and poke holes in stuff
[08:50] <bretolius> gordonjcp: Im new at ubuntu so still trying to figure things out
[08:50] <iceroot> Phoebus: if there are data on that drives which are needed to complete the boot/run the system there is no way to skip that drive
[08:50] <Phoebus> iceroot, yes, but needs user feedback, I need it to boot first, report later, and try to re-mount.
[08:50] <iceroot> Phoebus: /etc/fstab
[08:50] <Phoebus> iceroot, there is nothing on there except for backup files.
[08:50] <iceroot> Phoebus: there are options to skip and remount it when available
[08:51] <iceroot> !fstab | Phoebus
[08:51] <Phoebus> ok
[08:52] <bretolius> If I installed a patch to fix the blue flash videos in 12.04, do I need to remove them if I were to stay on 12.10?
[08:53] <iceroot> bretolius: how you installed the patch exactly?
[08:53] <bretolius> ermrm
[08:53] <iceroot> bretolius: patched a deb file? patch a file on the filesystem?
[08:53] <bretolius> let me look aggain
[08:53] <bretolius> i added this ppa https://launchpad.net/~tikhonov/+archive/misc
[08:53] <hai>  ubuntu下有通过内置无线网卡共享网络的方法吗
[08:54] <hai>  ubuntu下有通过内置无线网卡共享网络的方法吗
[08:54] <somsip> !zn | hai
[08:54] <somsip> !zh | hai
[08:54] <bretolius> then installed libvdpau1
[08:54] <bretolius> based on this advice http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[08:54] <hai> ok
[08:54] <hai> ok
[08:54] <mJayk> haya
[08:54] <iceroot> bretolius: 12.10 will overwrite that change if the version from 12.10 is newer
[08:54] <bretolius> ok
[08:55] <AndChat160881> how  do i get my ubuntu 9.04 play  mp3?
[08:55] <bretolius> What about PPAs that dont have a 12.10 release?  Should I just leave them around till they do then enable them?
[08:55] <bretolius> for software that I want updated
[08:55] <iceroot> !eol | AndChat160881
[08:55] <iceroot> bretolius: the updater will disable all ppas when upgrading
[08:56] <somsip> iceroot: doesn
[08:56] <mJayk> Is anybody actually upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 ??
[08:56] <Phoebus> iceroot, I've found an errors=remount-ro or well I really need rw. Can't find any option about skipping on that link.
[08:56] <somsip> t it save them as *-sit-upgrade.save or something?
[08:57] <iceroot> somsip: yes something like that but they are disabled during upgrade and have to enabled again by hand
[08:57] <iceroot> somsip: imo
[08:57] <somsip> iceroot: fair clarification
[08:58] <riqdiiz> so no more  support for ubuntu 9.04 play  mp3?
[09:01] <bretolius> when I run sudo update-grub I get a whole bunch of this, among normal looking stuff:
[09:01] <bretolius> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warning: Couldn't find physical volume `pv2'. Some modules may be missing from core image..
[09:01] <riqdiiz> will someone be kind to send me a copy  of Ubuntu latest version as where i come from is very remote except postal services?
[09:01] <bretolius> is this indicative of something I should fix?
[09:02] <chovynz> riqdiiz: is there no town near you with an internet cafe?
[09:05] <defekt> !botsnack
[09:06] <iceroot> riqdiiz: no more support for 9.04
[09:08] <mJayk> Anybody here currently able to get sc2 running in ubuntu ?
[09:09] <riqdiiz> not any only my smart phone and old pent3;)
[09:10] <riqdiiz> chovynz they are miles  away and don't allow file downloads :(
[09:11] <snowrichard> hello.  My dist upgrade to 12.10 hung in the middle because the mouse and keyboard froze.  However I was able to get the mini.iso network installer and install again without reformatting my partition, and I have a new install now with all my data files intact.
[09:12] <snowrichard> i first went and bought 14 foot cat 5 to eliminate the wireless dongle that i think was causeing the keyboard / mouse to freeze
[09:13] <snowrichard> wnda3100 using an ndis driver
[09:15] <snowrichard> net work install was very fast using my 4G LTE
[09:15] <varikonniemi> has the disk utility lost all capability to manage raid arrays like syncing, extending, adding spares etc?
[09:16] <varikonniemi> in 12.10
[09:16] <blackshirt> varikonniemi, thats not great tools
[09:18] <varikonniemi> maybe not the best, but it was fully working to manage them before except for special cases
[09:19] <varikonniemi> but this probalby stems from upstream gnome so not related reall to here in other ways than: why was it ignored and not left at a feature rich earlier version like nautilus?
[09:21] <nikitakit> Update to 12.10 broke unity. My computer no longer has a shell! (no launcher, no title bars for windows)
[09:22] <cephyr> Hi, i have a problem with my new Ubuntu 12.10 (32bit), it doesn't shows me my graphic card drivers in the "Additional Drivers" tab. I have a ATI Radeon 4500 Mobile. Jockey under 12.04 worked fine
[09:22] <varikonniemi> did you install nvidia drivers?
[09:22] <nikitakit> I'm guessing the problem probably has to do with gl/drivers. I have intel integrated graphics (i7)
[09:22] <somsip> !who
[09:23] <varikonniemi> nikitakit, oh then i have no clue, nvidia drivers cause the desktop not to load if they are installed
[09:23] <krofna> For some reason I cant install libace-dev  on 12.10 http://pastebin.com/wWPJUn9c Help?
[09:24] <nikitakit> My system loads fine, I'm using it right now. it just doesn't render the unity launcher or any titlebars, or respond to alt-tab
[09:24] <saleem>  hi, is anyone using latest stable trinity desktop on precise?
[09:25] <rmathews> where can I find a Ubuntu version of /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/examples/setup-instance
[09:25] <somsip> krofna: it may just be that archive.ubuntu.com is under heavy load today. If other updates have worked, you maybe don't have a fundamental problem. Keep trying...
[09:25] <yofel_> krofna: if I understand that error right, you're having DNS issues.
[09:25] <rmathews> seems to be missing in my 10.04 server install..
[09:25] <yofel_> krofna: if that's not it try another mirror
[09:26] <sangelion> hi.. i have problem installing ubuntu 12.10.. what should I do..
[09:26] <sangelion> :(
[09:26] <somsip> !details | sangelion
[09:27] <sangelion> I use ubuntu 12.04 before... and running well... but do fresh install on ubuntu 12.10.. then when restart.. I got black sreen of death..
[09:27] <jose__> hi ppl, what its the best app to record my clicks in image files( not video)?
[09:27] <sangelion> I think.. maybe my graphic driver don't support it..
[09:27] <sasuke> hello guys, some how my sound indicator from the menu bar is missed. I am unable to hear any sounds. Can anyone tell me how can i get it back
[09:28] <sangelion> I try to fix it but don't have any idea.. and where to start..
[09:30] <sangelion> that's all the detail I have for now...
[09:30] <abc> wow
[09:31] <nikitakit_> Some error messages when I try to run "unity" from the CLI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288877/
[09:32] <dontknow> hi, in 12.10's legal notice it says, canonical is still collect search terms even if you turn off it from privacy settings. it is amazing! how can i prevent this?
[09:33] <cheshair> Hi! I just upgraded to 12.10. Now my desktop is really slow! I guess I have problems with my graphic card drivers. I have a GeForce GT520. Any tips?
[09:34] <akis> a new issue appears to my newly installed xubuntu 12.04. every time i am closing chromium the system hangs for about 10 secs. after is working ok. any idea?
[09:34] <dontknow> hi, in 12.10's legal notice it says, canonical is still collect search terms even if you turn off it from privacy settings. it is amazing! how can i prevent this?
[09:34] <dontknow> hi, in 12.10's legal notice it says, canonical is still collect search terms even if you turn off it from privacy settings. it is amazing! how can i prevent this?
[09:34] <dontknow> hi, in 12.10's legal notice it says, canonical is still collect search terms even if you turn off it from privacy settings. it is amazing! how can i prevent this?
[09:34] <FloodBot1> dontknow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <crizis> remove shopping lens
[09:35] <blazemore> cheshair: You can install the proprietry nVidia driver in Ubuntu 12.10. Go to the Ubuntu Unity Dash. Search for "Software Sources". In Software Sources, click the Additional Drivers tab. You should see the driver available there to install
[09:35] <dontknow> crizis, are you sure this will prevent canonical collect?
[09:36] <crizis> if you do disable networked lenses, it _won't_ send anything anywhere, anyways
[09:36] <crizis> that's just legal gibberish, not how it actually works
[09:37] <cheshair> blazemore: I actually did that, but didn't manage to have the drivers really used (I got a 640xsomething resolution!). Do you know for sure those drivers are ok on 12.10?
[09:37] <dontknow> crizis, ! the notice says: "You may restrict your dash so that we don’t send searches to third parties and you don't receive online search results. To do this go to the Privacy panel and toggle the ‘Include online search results’ option to off."
[09:38] <crizis> dontknow, exactly
[09:38] <blazemore> cheshair: Open a terminal and copy-paste the following
[09:38] <sangelion> how to reinstall the grub??
[09:38] <blazemore> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[09:38] <JMS32> Hello! My ubuntu freezee. Which logs i must see to determinate why it's happen?
[09:39] <dontknow> crizis, it says, "we don't send to third parties" it means they are still collecting
[09:39] <blazemore> sangelion: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub
[09:39] <crizis> no, they are not
[09:39] <phet> Hi, I have one disk with w7, in that disk I have like 30 free gigs where I want to install linux. The installation goes ok, but then it doesnt recognize windows, it says linux is the only OS in the disk
[09:39] <sangelion> blazemore: where should I type.. I cannot get into cli even press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[09:39] <Valtam> dontknow, Mark Shuttleworth - "we have root"
[09:40] <varikonniemi> sangelion, does ctrl-alt-t work ?
[09:40] <blazemore> sangelion: Try rebooting into recovery mode
[09:40] <blazemore> If ctrl-alt-t doesn't work
[09:41] <varikonniemi> i have not been able to bring grub up after upgrading to 12.10, any ideas?
[09:41] <cheshair> blazemore: ah nice, very useful. just one more thing: i am quite concerned about security issues: is there a way to avoid an unoffical repo? (ubuntu-x-swat)
[09:41] <akis> well. a new issue appears to my newly installed xubuntu 12.04. every time i am closing chromium the system hangs for exactly 40 secs. after is working ok. any idea?
[09:41] <sangelion> varikonniemi: I got black screen after installing ubuntu 12.10.. so no gui terminal...
[09:41] <fairuz> phet: Did you install Ubuntu on the same partition as Windows?
[09:41] <cheshair> blazemore: i just ran into the program "software-properties-gtk". do you think i can perform the nvidia install with that?
[09:42] <dontknow> Valtam, i wish i read the legal notice before. i wouldn't install it. by the way, they wont have my root anymore
[09:42] <sangelion> blazer: how to reboot into recovery mode??? or should I reinstall.. I already try installing twice
[09:42] <phet> fairuz: now the same partition, but free space on that disk. I cancelled the installation before installing the boot, so at the moment I can perfectly boot w7, but now linux
[09:42] <varikonniemi> sangelion, does it go blank bfore lightdm?
[09:42] <phet> I think my problem is with UEFI
[09:43] <sangelion> varikonniemi.. yes.. nothing at all.. after restart.. got asus splashscreen.. then black blank screen...
[09:43] <varikonniemi> my screen went blank before lightdm when i installed with full disk encryption, had to smash kbd for it to wake up and ask decryption password. could this be your problem ?
[09:43] <blazemore> sangelion: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[09:43] <pyJack> hello, I'm trying to understand what the various .bash*** files do.
[09:43] <pyJack>  I've been told to edit .bash_profile in order to start a script every time I open the terminal but it doesn't work.
[09:43] <sangelion> blazemore: no.. i install ubuntu on full hdisk..
[09:44] <chris__> Hello everyone! Just wondering something!! If i have a Beta 2 install of ubuntu 12.10 installed on my laptop, will it auto Upgrade to the latest using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ??? Or will i have to re-install the full release over the top?
[09:44] <sangelion> without any partition..
[09:44] <varikonniemi> sangelion, you could try booting into grub menu by holding shift during boot, but this does nto work for me since 12.10 :D
[09:44] <pyJack> everything seems to point to .bash_profile, when searching google
[09:44] <Ali_Bahjati> hi
[09:44] <blazemore> pyJack: any relation to PsyJack?
[09:44] <sangelion> varikonniemi: i already try that.. without the cd.. it does work..
[09:44] <Ali_Bahjati> any bodys here ?
[09:44] <sangelion> :(
[09:45] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: Do you have a question?
[09:45] <pablovp> holaaaaa
[09:45] <eamon> Guys, what is the difference between a router and a switch? Can I use a switch to distribute an internet connection with these settings? http://puu.sh/1gnxY
[09:45] <Ali_Bahjati> yep
[09:45] <sasuke> hello , My sound indicator in menu bar is missing, by using 'alsamixer' , i am able to hear sounds . Can anyone tell me how can i get sound indicator back to menubar
[09:45] <pyJack> blazemore: I'm the ugly brother :)
[09:46] <Magentium> Hey everyone, just wondering if anyone knows how to upgrade Beta 2 12.10 Ubuntu to the full version? will a dist-upgrade work? or will i need to do a full re-install
[09:46] <varikonniemi> eamon, a hub broadcasts, a switch routs
[09:46] <[deXter]> Magentium, dist-upgrade will work fine
[09:46] <eamon> varikonniemi: Can a switch sout mp internet?
[09:46] <eamon> *my
[09:46] <varikonniemi> yes
[09:46] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: Ask your question in here, not in a private message
[09:47] <varikonniemi> i dont think they make "hubs" anymore
[09:47] <cheshair> blazemore: thank you very much for your tips, i tried with software-properties-gtk first, i am going to reboot, see you in a short qhile
[09:47] <Magentium> thank you [deXter], I have never run a beta before and the Software Update dialog only shows around 10 thinks that can be updated.
[09:47] <blazemore> cheshair: Let me know :)
[09:47] <Ali_Bahjati> I've got a problem
[09:47] <Magentium> yes Ali_Bahjati
[09:47] <Magentium> What is your problem ?
[09:47] <[deXter]> Magentium, don't use the software centre :)
[09:47] <Ali_Bahjati> In ubuntu 12.10
[09:47] <sangelion> varikonniemi & blazemore: do you have any more suggestion that can I try...
[09:47] <Ali_Bahjati> installation
[09:47] <pablovp> floodBot1 hola
[09:47] <sangelion> ??
[09:47] <Magentium> [deXter] i never use Software Centre to update, always command line.
[09:47] <Ali_Bahjati> it has a option that
[09:48] <Ali_Bahjati> erase ubuntu 12.04 and install
[09:48] <JMS32> Hello! My ubuntu freezee. Which logs i must see to determinate why it's happen?
[09:48] <Ali_Bahjati> and I checked it with
[09:48] <Magentium> [deXter], i only used it just then because i am running off 3G and did not want to install them at this point.
[09:48] <Ali_Bahjati> LVM
[09:48] <Magentium> JMS32, what are you doing when it freezes?
[09:48] <[deXter]> Magentium, ah okay. Coincidentally, I'm also on 3G and unable to upgrade. :P
[09:48] <Ali_Bahjati> and It deleted
[09:48] <Ali_Bahjati> another partition too
[09:48] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: What was on the other partition?
[09:49] <Ali_Bahjati> there was my family pictures there
[09:49] <[deXter]> I ordered for broadband but they don't have the modem in stock.. will only get it next week. :(
[09:49] <fredriksk> Can you see what integration you have agreed to in unity?
[09:49] <davidhadas> Hi, I am trying to connect to ubuntu12.04 using Xmin  - I get a grey screen and no login/xterm
[09:49] <Magentium> [deXter], perhaps it has something to do with internet speed, once i am home i will try and do another upgrade then.
[09:49] <cookie-monster> Hey guys, is there a way yet to integrate Pidgin with 12.10 messaging menu?
[09:49] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: Did you read the warning that says "this will delete all your data", and then say "yes"?
[09:49] <Ali_Bahjati> I understand that and so terminate it with xkill
[09:49] <Ali_Bahjati> there were not any warning
[09:49] <Ali_Bahjati> I think that it will just delete my ubuntu partition
[09:49] <sangelion> ubuntuforum suggest to reinstall the grub if grub doesnt appear.. but how to install because I cannot get into the shell..
[09:49] <Ali_Bahjati> So, that's happened now
[09:49] <Magentium> cookie-monster, i found a plugin ages ago for Unity that will do it but it was INCREDIBLY dodgy. I believe that it is being worked on, but while Empaphy is the standard i do not believe they will do it.
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> how can I recover it ?
[09:50] <Amani> I want to setup my own mail server, can anyone help me?
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> I tried  everything
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> here is the testdisk message
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> TestDisk 6.13, Data Recovery Utility, November 2011
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> Christophe GRENIER <grenier@cgsecurity.org>
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> http://www.cgsecurity.org
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> Disk /dev/sda - 750 GB / 698 GiB - CHS 91201 255 63
[09:50] <Ali_Bahjati> The harddisk (750 GB / 698 GiB) seems too small! (< 871 GB / 811 GiB)
[09:50] <FloodBot1> Ali_Bahjati: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:50] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: Your options are very limited. Data recovery is complicated and there is *no* guarentee you will ever be able to recover that. You're doing the right thing by being on the LiveCD. Do you have a backup you can restore from?
[09:50] <Magentium> Has anyone else here had a printerinstaller.py (or wateva) error when installing a printer in Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2??
[09:51] <Ali_Bahjati> no , I don't have any backup
[09:51] <Ali_Bahjati> and I'm in ubuntu 12.10 live usb
[09:51] <sasuke> hello, can anyone answer me please
[09:51] <Magentium> sasuke, what's up
[09:51] <Magentium> ?
[09:51] <nikitakit> Rebooted, didn't help... Ubuntu 12.10 upgrade uninstalled key components of intel graphics stack. Unity doesn't start up because GL doesn't work
[09:51] <sasuke>  My sound indicator in menu bar is missing, by using 'alsamixer' , i am able to hear sounds . Can anyone tell me how can i get sound indicator back to menubar
[09:52] <nikitakit> What are the intel graphics-related packages?
[09:52] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: All I can suggest is follow a guide like this [http://computriks.com/en/recoverfiletestdisk] - the instructions are a little too in-depth to go through on IRC
[09:52] <sasuke> Magentium, that's my problem
[09:52] <Ali_Bahjati> thanks
[09:52] <Amani> h
[09:53] <Magentium> ubuntu 12.10 ??
[09:53] <blazemore> sasuke: Alt+right-click an empty area of the panel. Choose "Add to Panel", then drag "Indicator Applet Complete" next to the clock in the system tray, or wherever you want to put it instead
[09:53] <fredriksk> how can I get gmail/facebook etc in unity menu? And in HUD? I have added them to my online accounts?
[09:53] <sasuke> blazemore, i already did that... apart from sound indicator i am getting everything
[09:53] <blazemore> fredriksk: I'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't come with that sort of functionality by default
[09:54] <blazemore> fredriksk: There's information on additional Unity lenses here [http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/10-unity-lenses-scopes] with instructions on how to install them
[09:54] <fredriksk> blazemore, But One of the new thing in 12.10 was webb apps... isn't that what it was alla about?
[09:54] <blazemore> fredriksk: Oh I see what you mean :) just a second
[09:55] <bdesai> guys, having trouble after installing 12.10
[09:55] <Magentium> fredriksk, what exactly are these "Web Apps" and how do i get their awesomeness :P
[09:55] <fredriksk> blazemore, I have added gmail and facebook to "online accounts" and agreed to integrate in browser.. it still doesnt show up in unity menu or in HUD
[09:55] <Magentium> bdesai, whats up ?
[09:56] <blazemore> fredriksk: There's some information here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/ubuntu-unveil-new-web-apps-feature-for-12-10
[09:56] <bdesai> hey Magnetium
[09:56] <bdesai> *Magentium
[09:56] <Magentium> Hello :) how can i help you ?
[09:56] <blazemore> fredriksk: It looks like when you access a supported website using Firefox, you'll be prompted to add it as a web app, but if you say "no" I don't know how you can get that prompt back again
[09:56] <bdesai> I would really appreciate that
[09:56] <Ali_Bahjati> how can I check partition size manually ?
[09:56] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: sudo fdisk -l
[09:56] <blazemore> that's l for lemer, not number 1
[09:57] <fredriksk> blazemore, Im 100% shure I answered yes on that one
[09:57] <bdesai> my laptop boots into grub rescue mode after i installed 12.10
[09:57] <Ali_Bahjati> and what I have to do with this error ?
[09:57] <sasuke> Magentium, blazemore , in system settings ---> sound ... it looks blank "http://imagebin.org/232463."
[09:57] <Ali_Bahjati> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288898/
[09:57] <blazemore> fredriksk: Then I don't know I'm sorry. I don't actually use Ubuntu XD
[09:57] <bdesai> I tried everything, from re-installing to running grub-install
[09:57] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: Were your partitions in LVM before?
[09:57] <fredriksk> blazemore, thanks anyway
[09:57] <Ali_Bahjati> no
[09:57] <Magentium> bdesai, what kind of partitions are you using?
[09:57] <Ali_Bahjati> They weren't :'(
[09:58] <bdesai> one ext4, one swap and 2 ntfs
[09:58] <sangelion> bdesai: you more lucky than me.. hahaha..
[09:58] <blazemore> sasuke: It seems none of your sound devices are detected by Ubuntu. Has your sound ever worked? I know you mentioned alsamixer
[09:58] <Magentium> what drive are you setting the bootloader too ?
[09:58] <Magentium> or what Partition.
[09:58] <bdesai> i have just one hard drive, so it's /dev/sda/
[09:59] <Magentium> hmm.....i had that issue originally because the WIndows 7 boot loader was still there, and when the computer loaded it had assigned two paritions as boot.
[09:59] <Magentium> Can you load up Partition Editor and see if any of your NTFS paritions are set to boot mode?
[09:59] <bdesai> yeah, I am aware of that.. I myself faced that problem  a year back..
[09:59] <blazemore> bdesai: Have you tried running "sudo update-grub"
[10:00] <Magentium> if so, remove that boot flag (it can be added easily again later) and then do a full re-install of Ubuntu 12.10. delete the Ubuntu partition and start it again.
[10:00] <blazemore> sometimes it's the obvious things you overlook
[10:00] <Magentium> bdesai, or yes try the command that blazemore just said, sometimes it does not update.
[10:00] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | bdesai
[10:00] <sasuke> blazemore, yes till 1hr back it works perfect... i used "sudo apt-get remove kde*" & "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" cmds after restard... i logined as gnome-classic. Sound is working with the help of 'alsamixer' , but indicator is missing
[10:01] <nikitakit> anyone: what are the ubuntu packages related to opengl on intel graphics?
[10:01] <blazemore> sasuke: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Magentium: blazemore: bdesai: update-grub simply writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg , and if you're getting a grub rescue prompt you're not even getting to the point of reading the grub.cfg, so update-grub won't help at all (though it won't hurt anything either).
[10:01] <Magentium> nikitakit, it us usually just xorg-server-intel
[10:01] <blazemore> nikitakit: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:01] <Magentium> nikitakit, or something along the lines of that.
[10:02] <blazemore> Oh hang on Magentium might be right. I just ran "sudo apt-cache search xserver | grep intel" but then I'm on Debian so might be *slightly* different
[10:02] <bdesai> blazemore, i tried that too.. and i got an error which even google doesn't know :P..
[10:02] <bdesai> "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow."
[10:02] <Magentium> Jordan_U, you are correct, my mistake. bdesai what kind of install are you doing? Are you installing from CD or USB?
[10:02] <blazemore> bdesai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:02] <blazemore> bdesai: Little-known tool, but super useful
[10:03] <Jordan_U> bdesai: That error is because you're running update-grub from a LiveCD environment, rather than the installed system.
[10:03] <Magentium> blazemore, i found that the packages for the intel graphics support are SLIGHTLY different for each distro, but it SHOULD auto install the opengl extensions as dependencies.
[10:03] <nikitakit> Magentium, blazemore: that package is installed, so I'm guessing that's not the problem
[10:03] <nikitakit> there might be more packages
[10:04] <Fuzzles> in ubuntu how to i get the shortcuts menu up?
[10:04] <Magentium> nikitakit, what issue exactly are you having?
[10:04] <bdesai> Magentium: live USB; blazemore: tried that too :(
[10:04] <iceroot> Fuzzles: press the windows key for some seconds
[10:04] <lazarus_> Fuzzles: hold down the windows key
[10:04] <nikitakit> Unity doesn't load, because unity/compiz can't run opengl
[10:05] <Fuzzles> ok thanks guys
[10:05] <nikitakit> therefore I have no titebars for windows, no launcher... and just about nothing except using only the mouse
[10:05] <crizis>  unity in 12.10 can run without opengl
[10:05] <erezson> Help needed: Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to 12.10 but I get the message "This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first" .   I tried running in terminal "sudo apt-get clean" but it didn't help. problem keeps popup.
[10:05] <Jordan_U> bdesai: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces.
[10:05] <nikitakit> X server is still there, but I can't use alt-tab, workspaces, or much of anything else
[10:05] <Magentium> bdesai, use a program called LiLi, and try it again. Format the USB and try a re-copy. I found that sometimes my live USBs do not install properly
[10:05] <Magentium> nikitakit, what kind of INtel Graphics card do you have?
[10:05] <sasuke> blazemore, yaa did it
[10:06] <lazarus_> erezson: try rebooting
[10:06] <nikitakit> My computer has an i7 processor. That's pretty much all I know
[10:06] <erezson> lazarus_: I tried.
[10:06] <nikitakit> crizis: "ps -A | grep unity" gives no results. unity isn't running, for some reason
[10:06] <sasuke> blazemore, b r b
[10:06] <Magentium> can you press Control + Shift + F7 and get to a command prompt?
[10:07] <nikitakit> Magentium: ?? I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a prompt. And my desktop kind-of works (good enough to open IRC webchat)
[10:08] <Magentium> nikitakit, oops yes F1 is the one :P always forget those. Okay, log in under that command prompt. type in glxinfo and after "OpenGL Render String" tell me what it says
[10:08] <bdesai> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/0yXcdqm9
[10:08] <nikitakit> Error: unable to open display
[10:08] <Magentium> if it says glxinfo is not available, type : sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[10:08] <Magentium> hmmm.
[10:09] <Magentium> what does uname -a show ?
[10:09] <crizis> nikitakit, unity is actually a compiz plugin, so not sure if it should be running as 'unity'
[10:09] <nikitakit> (not sure glxinfo will even run from the virtual term. let me try gnome-terminal)
[10:09] <crizis> nikitakit, make sure you have 'ubuntu-desktop' metapackage installed, at least
[10:09] <nikitakit> aha, the gnome-term version works
[10:10] <nikitakit> plenty of glx errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1288926/
[10:10] <crizis> nikitakit, one thing you could try, is to create new user account, and login with this. if unity works then, there's likely some incompatible setting from upgrade left in your profile
[10:10] <bdesai> Magentium: I tried ubuntu-startup-disk-creator and unetbootin..
[10:10] <Jordan_U> bdesai: Do you see any error messages from grub?
[10:10] <Eagleman> root@eagleman:/etc/openvpn# cat log.txt | grep a
[10:10] <Eagleman> Binary file (standard input) matches
[10:10] <sasuke> blazemore, once pulseaudio installed used
[10:10] <Eagleman> Why is it not working how it should?
[10:10] <bdesai> they both created live usb without errors
[10:10] <erezson> anyone????? I'm trying to upgrade to 12.10 but I get the message "This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first" .   I tried running in terminal "sudo apt-get clean" but it didn't help. problem keeps popup.
[10:10] <stobix> yo. Ubuntu just decided to start not being able to start my network (eth0) at boot. It hangs at "Starting configure virtual network devices".  What might be wrong?
[10:10] <sasuke> blazemore, once pulseaudio installed used 'gnome-sound-applet' its working...
[10:10] <sasuke> blazemore, thanks
[10:11] <Magentium> bdesai, Grub will be the death of me. It is such a pain the ass program :P unetbootin i found was pretty crap, seriously...from a windows computer (if you have one ) use LiLi (linux live USB maker)
[10:11] <blazemore> sasuke: No problem :D
[10:11] <dontknow> they don't have root anymore
[10:11] <nikitakit> crizis: ubuntu-desktop is installed, at least
[10:11] <tux9th> wtf. I reinstalled grub for 3 times now and it always says "error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found! Does anyone know what to do?
[10:11] <lazarus_> i see compiz still hates flash or vice versa
[10:11] <dontknow> dash legal notice sucks
[10:11] <crizis> nikitakit, try that new account too. just to make sure there isn't any old settings etc in profile which could cause this
[10:12] <Magentium> lazarus_, i found that it only hates flash with me if i do not use the Adobe Flash plugin, if i use the Gnome ones or and of the 3rd party ones it hates it.
[10:12] <nikitakit> crizis: how do I create a new user? Preferably I'd like the executable for the GUI user-creator
[10:12] <Kartagis> how do I export the $PATH `which` uses?
[10:12] <nikitakit> (I have no menus, but I can launch graphical programs from the terminal)
[10:12] <Kartagis> export $PATH didn't do it
[10:12] <crizis> nikitakit, 'adduser test'
[10:12] <dyd> guys i have 2 hard disks, one with ubuntu and the other with mint; i want to be able to select what OS start at boot, how can i do that?
[10:12] <cheshair> blazemore: I am trying the way you told me: adding x-swat repo in order to make my nvidia card work
[10:13] <Jordan_U> erezson: Do you already have Synaptic package manger or Ubuntu Software Center running? "apt-get clean" is not in any way a solution for the problem you have (there another package manager is running).
[10:13] <bdesai> blazemore: looking at the results file, i don't see anyboot sector type/info for my linux partition
[10:13] <Kartagis> dyd: grub-install
[10:13] <crizis> nikitakit, with sudo ^^ sudo adduser test
[10:13] <bdesai> *any boot
[10:13] <Jordan_U> bdesai: That's normal, grub's boot sector is in the MBR.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> bdesai: Do you see any error messages from grub before you get dropped to the rescue shell?
[10:13] <Eagleman> root@eagleman:/etc/openvpn# cat log.txt | grep a
[10:14] <Eagleman> Binary file (standard input) matches
[10:14] <Eagleman> Why is it not working how it should?
[10:14] <blazemore> erezson: What is the output of ps aux | grep 'apt\|dpkg' | grep -v grep
[10:14] <erezson> @Jordan_U I know but I don't run any additional update
[10:14] <Jordan_U> Eagleman: What do you expect that set of commands to do?
[10:15] <bdesai> "file not found"
[10:15] <nikitakit> crizis: logged into the other user in Ctrl-Alt-F6 terminal and did "startx". same story
[10:15] <bdesai> i tried loading kernel frm grub rescue
[10:15] <Jordan_U> erezson: What is the output of "pgrep dpkg"?
[10:15] <Jordan_U> bdesai: What is the output of "grub-install --version"?
[10:15] <bdesai> but before i could do that, i couldn't even pick up linux.mod using insmod
[10:15] <erezson> @Jordan_U I just run it in terminal. nothing...
[10:15] <stobix> what is eth0:avahi, and why do I have it? I think this might be why I don't have any net on my ubuntu machine.
[10:16] <Jordan_U> erezson: What about "pgrep apt"?
[10:16] <bdesai> it said "error: symbol not found:'grub_realdit'"
[10:16] <bdesai> *realidt
[10:16] <erezson> @Jordan_U still nothing
[10:16] <crizis> nikis, try sudo service lightdm start
[10:16] <blazemore> erezson: What is the output of "ps aux | grep 'apt\|dpkg' | grep -v grep"
[10:16] <crizis> *nikitakit
[10:16] <Jordan_U> !aptlock | erezson
[10:16] <nikitakit> crizis: job already running
[10:17] <Eagleman> jordan to show me the stuff like this: Fri Oct 19 12:12:38 2012 us=975767   server_network = 10.8.0.0
[10:17] <crizis> sudo service lightdm restart :)
[10:17] <erezson> @Jordan_U avahi     1053  0.0  0.0   3456  1104 ?        S    Oct18   0:02 avahi-daemon: running [erezson-laptop.local]
[10:17] <erezson> erezson   2499  0.0  0.0   4080    20 ?        Ss   Oct18   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh --write-env-file=/home/erezson/.gnupg/gpg-agent-info-erezson-laptop /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[10:17] <erezson> erezson   2500  0.0  0.0   5232   216 ?        Ss   Oct18   0:03 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh --write-env-file=/home/erezson/.gnupg/gpg-agent-info-erezson-laptop /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[10:17] <erezson> erezson   5059  0.0  0.4 104252  7368 ?        Sl   08:12   0:00 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=plugin --plugin-path=/home/erezson/.config/google-chrome/Default/Extensions/cpngackimfmofbokmjmljamhdncknpmg/5.0.5_0/plugin/screen_capture.so --lang=en-US --channel=4856.12.1213300861
[10:17] <FloodBot1> erezson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <erezson> sorry
[10:17] <md_5> There is a 'null' account in the gnome online-accounts, wont manual delete, still there after removing everything but ssh+pgp keys from password manager
[10:17] <md_5> anyone know how to remove it
[10:17] <Jordan_U> Eagleman: Is the file you searching a binary file or a text file?
[10:18] <Eagleman> log.txt
[10:18] <nikitakit_> crizis: desktop restarted, still no unity
[10:18] <Jordan_U> Eagleman: Please pastebin the contents of the file.
[10:18] <nikitakit_> and GLX is still missing on display 0
[10:18] <erezson> @ubottu  - I get this reply: The program 'udo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[10:18] <erezson> sudo apt-get install udo
[10:19] <Jordan_U> bdesai: That's because, for whatever reason, you have Ubuntu 12.04's grub (1.99) in the MBR, but Ubuntu 12.10's grub (2.00) in the MBR+Embedded area. grub 1.99 cannot load modules from grub 2.00./.
[10:19] <bdesai> on trying grub-install with --boot-directory option, i get "Path `/mnt/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting."
[10:19] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/hn4DZKNF
[10:19] <cheshair> blazemore: no way, x-swat repo seems not to work for 12.10
[10:20] <CXIV> Anyone knows solution for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obconf/+bug/1059543
[10:20] <Jordan_U> erezson: You missed copying the 's' in 'sudo'.
[10:20] <crizis> nikitakit, :/ i'm out of ideas... you could install 'gnome-panel' package to get at least gnome fallback session to sort it out..
[10:20] <Magentium> Just wondering if anyone knows when the Gallium3D Drivers will be release for Intel HD 4000 Ivy Bridge cards.
[10:20] <cheshair> blazemore: see here: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-driver-30460-in-ubuntu.html
[10:21] <bdesai> Jordon_U: might be the point cuz I had 12.04 earlier.. but i re-intalled 12.10 twice..
[10:21] <Magentium> Nvidia drivers in ubuntu were a pain, you have to stop the X Server , purge the neavou drivers, isntal Nvidia and then BAM its working
[10:21] <Jordan_U> bdesai: What is the exact grub-install command you're running, and please pastebin the output of "mount" (and I'm still waiting for the output of "grub-install --versio" that I asked for earlier).
[10:21] <erezson> @Jordan_U you're right. I did it. should I run the upgrade now?
[10:21] <Dragonster82> Hey what's up al!
[10:22] <blazemore> cheshair: Ah that sucks. Try asking in #ubuntu-x
[10:22] <Eagleman> Jordan_U  http://pastebin.com/hn4DZKNF
[10:22] <bdesai> Jordan_U: o/p of version: grub-install (GRUB) 2.00-7ubuntu11
[10:22] <Magentium> B R B ladies and gentleman :)
[10:22] <nikitakit_> crizis: is there any way to test which video drivers my system is actually using?
[10:23] <bdesai> Jordan_U: complete command: sudo grub-install --force --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda/
[10:23] <JMS32> how to make my system reboot every 6 hours?
[10:23] <cheshair> blazemore: i will, thanks!
[10:23] <yeats> !cron | JMS32
[10:23] <crizis> nikitakit_, what gfx card you have?
[10:24] <Jordan_U> bdesai: Never use --force with grub-install (if you're doing things correctly, it won't be needed) and I think you miscopied that because '/dev/sda/' is not a valid path, you want '/dev/sda' .
[10:24] <nikitakit_> crizis: integrated graphics only. But I think I have other random drivers installed, but no hardware for them
[10:24] <Dragonster82> What is going on guys?
[10:24] <blazemore> PC Pro, a major UK professional IT magazine has reviewed Ubuntu 12.10 and refer to it as "hit-and-miss" http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/software/377638/ubuntu-12-10
[10:24] <lazarus_> erezson: i would wait a few days/weeks before upgrading
[10:24] <bdesai> Jordan_U: o/p of mount: http://pastebin.com/rta7r9bH
[10:24] <Jordan_U> !ot | blazemore
[10:24] <carlisle_> JMS32: the wikipedia page has a really good diagram that shows how to setup your conrtab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[10:25] <bdesai> Jordan_U: i tried without --force, didn't help, so tried with it..
[10:25] <ardchoille> blazemore: you can't please everyone :)
[10:25] <crizis> nikitakit_, having those installed shouldn't matter.. but i don't know, i'm out of ideas
[10:25] <bdesai> Jordan_U: getting same error for /dev/sda as well
[10:26] <Jordan_U> bdesai: For the grub-install command you used to work, your Ubuntu partition needs to be mounted to /mnt/. It's not.
[10:26] <sourav> hello i use open dns but resolv.conf gets empty after reboot
[10:26] <jrib> !resolvconf | sourav
[10:27] <JMS32> How to reboot PC from console?
[10:27] <blazemore> JMS32: sudo reboot
[10:27] <carlisle_> JMS32: sudo reboot
[10:27] <carlisle_> damnit beaten
[10:27] <blazemore> carlisle_: boom
[10:27] <JMS32> thanks
[10:27] <kodez> sudo shutdown -r now
[10:27] <blazemore> ooh look at kodez
[10:27] <carlisle_> JMS32: if you're setting up a crontab to reboot you need to edit the root's crontab
[10:27] <kodez> or sudo shutdown -r 00
[10:27] <carlisle_> trying to invoke sudo via cron won't work
[10:28] <Jordan_U> bdesai: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda
[10:28] <carlisle_> to edit to the root crontab: sudo crontab -e
[10:28] <blazemore> carlisle_: cron jobs run as root don't they?
[10:28] <carlisle_> they run as the user they're setup under
[10:28] <bdesai> Jordan_U: when i mount it and then run grub-install, error: "/usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding Partition; embedding won't be possible. /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install."
[10:29] <blazemore> Ali_Bahjati: How's your recovery going?
[10:29] <bdesai> Jordan_U: yeah the same error for the command you just gave. I tried on /dev/sda7 (my linux partition) instead of /dev/sda and i got 2 warnings but no errors
[10:30] <JMS32> It's okay to use TAB as separator in crontab?
[10:30] <iceroot> JMS32: yes
[10:30] <JMS32> iceroot tahnks
[10:31] <bdesai> it seems grub's installed on my linux partition but not on drive as a whole for now.. i'll try rebooting and see what happens. brb after results.. thanks Magentium, Jordan_U,blazemore
[10:35] <nikitakit> crizis: instructions here ended up working: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133124/how-do-i-enable-extra-visual-effects-using-an-intel-graphics-controller
[10:35] <crizis> great! :)
[10:35] <nikitakit> (that or installing gnome-panel, which I don't think did anything)
[10:35] <nikitakit> I don't have any nvidia hardware though
[10:35] <nikitakit> thanks for helping
[10:35] <Jordan_U> bdesai: Please mark yourself as affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1061255 If I figure out how to remove the stale signatures, or if there is a grub update which solves the problem without removing them, I'll add a comment to the bug report (unless someone else does so before me).
[10:35] <stobix> eh. is it something wrong with archive.ubuntu.com? It responds to ping, but it won't let me download thengs when I try to apt-get!
[10:36] <crizis> better keep that in mind if i update to 12.10.. as my laptop has intel too
[10:36] <crizis> guess i'll just play it safe and stick to the LTS :)
[10:36] <obtrusivemouse> apt-get install or apt get?
[10:36] <crizis> apt-get
[10:36] <carlisle_> Jordan_U: where are the LDM headers being stored on disk? Is it possible to nuke them with 'dd' ?
[10:36] <nikitakit> Dunno what the problem is. The window decorator stuff actually vanished halfway through the upgrade (i.e. while update manager was running)
[10:36] <carlisle_> (a la using dd to nuke a partition table)
[10:37] <stobix> obtrusivemouse: apt-get install
[10:37] <Jordan_U> carlisle_: It is certainly possible to nuke then, though beyond them being near both the beginning and end of the disk I don't know the exact blocks to nuke.
[10:37] <bdesai> no luck :(
[10:37] <stobix> obtrusivemouse: "Something wicked happend resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - Na address associated with hostname)
[10:38] <carlisle_> Jordan_U: what could possibly go wrong? :P
[10:38] <stobix> obtrusivemouse: I don't get how this is compatible with me being able to ping it!
[10:39] <Jordan_U> bdesai: Did you seem my last message about the bug report?
[10:39] <stobix> I can even wget the exact file that apt-get seems unable to fetch!
[10:39] <fairuz> Hi. Where does Google chrome stores its extension files? Thanks
[10:39] <Jordan_U> bdesai: In the mean time, if you want a quick temporary work around you can boot your Ubuntu installation using Super GRUB2 Disk.
[10:39] <obtrusivemouse> what are you trying to get from the archives?
[10:40] <blazemore> fairuz: ~/.config/chromium/Default/Extensions
[10:40] <fairuz> blazemore: thanks
[10:40] <fairuz> Euh not chromium but google chrome
[10:40] <fairuz> They use the same folder?
[10:40] <bdesai> Jordan_U: working on lice USB :)
[10:40] <bdesai> *live
[10:40] <stobix> obtrusivemouse: trayer right now, but I think it's beside the issue. I tried apt-get update right now, and it works fine until it tries to talk to archive.ubuntu.com (that is, security.ubuntu.com, deb.opera.com etc works)
[10:41] <Jordan_U> bdesai: But Super GRUB2 Disk will allow you to boot into your installed System.
[10:41] <cheshair> blazemore: i eventually succeeded! thanks for your help. BTW: do you know of any graphic card which is completely supported by open source sw? I don't mind any game application, I just need a good graphic card for desktop applications, with acceleration and 3d for unity
[10:41] <Jordan_U> bdesai: I can also help you install grub to the USB drive, so you can boot your Ubuntu installation from that.
[10:41] <fairuz> But thanks blazemore, there's google-chrome folder in .config.
[10:41] <blazemore> cheshair: I'm using a Radeon 4890 which seems to work just fine
[10:42] <obtrusivemouse> just asking because if it's beyond support, then you have to extract your file manually, otherwise i can't really see what's wrong
[10:42] <blazemore> fairuz: Yes it's google-chrome or chromium, the rest is the same :-)
[10:42] <bdesai> Jordan_U: yes please!
[10:42] <vak> hi all
[10:42] <stobix> obtrusivemouse: Can I tell it to use an alterate download mirror?
[10:42] <bdesai> Jordan_U: is it grub-install to /dev/sdX USB device?
[10:42] <carlisle_> stobix: you can try updating /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <vak> Weather indicator *wanted* !
[10:42] <cheshair> blazemore: precious tip. thanks again, bye!
[10:43] <sasuke> hi ... i am using 10.10 version , i want to upgrade directly to 12.04. is there any cmd that i can directly upgrade in ubuntu
[10:43] <t|ask> Hi, does anybody know why Gnome is using 100% CPU with Ubuntu 12.10?
[10:43] <obtrusivemouse> you could try, but i think you'll still get the same result
[10:43] <vak> are there any working weather indicator for ubuntu 12.10 ?
[10:43] <Jordan_U> bdesai: grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX
[10:43] <yugandhar> Hi Technicians
[10:43] <bdesai> Jordan_U: gotcha! I'll do that
[10:43] <t|ask> obtrusivemouse: yes, look for extensions
[10:43] <carlisle_> sasuke: i dont think it's recommended to do a major upgrade like that from within ubuntu
[10:43] <carlisle_> but you should wait for a more definitive answer
[10:44] <blazemore> sasuke: I don't think you can upgrade more than one release ahead, unless you are going from one LTS release to another
[10:44] <stobix> carlisle_: ah, exactly what I needed. Apparently, nl.archive.ubuntu.com works just fine.
[10:44] <blazemore> sasuke: My recommendation is to back up your home directory and perform a clean install of whatever version you want to run
[10:44] <t|ask> I upgraded two Ubuntu machines with Gnome 3.6 and both have 100% CPU... anybody elsehas this issue?
[10:44] <carlisle_> stobix: wooooo :)
[10:45] <sasuke> blazemore, 10.10 is LTS . So i thought 12.04 will work
[10:45] <whitman> Does LibreOffice not have a global menu?  I don't have any menu in 12.10.
[10:45] <stobix> so, in other words: "Wohoo, we made a workaround! (And nobody knows what the fsck went wrong to begin with!)"
[10:45] <stobix> \o/
[10:45] <Jordan_U> sasuke: 10.04 is LTS, not 10.10. 10.10 is no longer supported.
[10:46] <carlisle_> sasuke: do you have a seperate partition for /home ?
[10:46] <stobix> anyways, thanks all!
[10:46]  * stobix disappears in a poof of smoke
[10:46] <sasuke> carlisle_, no
[10:47] <carlisle_> well that makes it more difficult
[10:47] <carlisle_> i think you do need to install from a cd
[10:47] <carlisle_> you'll want to backup everything before upgrading, setup a /home partition so you can upgrade your OS without affecting any of your data!
[10:48] <JMS32> After aptitude upgrade my /dev/video* is no more working! :( How to fix it?
[10:48] <sasuke> carlisle_, you mean 1st i need to upgrad 11.04 --> 11.10 --> 12.04 like this?
[10:49] <sasuke> carlisle_, upgradation means
[10:50] <carlisle_> i am not sure if you can do it like that without reinstalling, it is probably easiest to install 12.04 fresh from a cd
[10:50] <blazemore> sasuke: 10.10 isn't LTS.
[10:51] <KsM> Is there any way to get unity to not show my document previews and such
[10:51] <DJHenjin> hello i am using a control panel for hosting on my server, and i have read that using the 2.3.5 version os VSFTPD is causing a problem i have where i can only connect using SFTP, i was wondering if somone could walk me through uninstalling VSFTPD and installing VSFTPD 2.3.2
[10:51] <sasuke> carlisle_, ok
[10:52] <CatKiller> Hey! I have a Qlogic driver that loads successfully on Ubuntu
[10:52] <CatKiller> however, I'd like to pass in a specific option to it
[10:52] <CatKiller> it is a loadable module driver
[10:52] <CatKiller> and therefore I need to pass the option to whoever is loading that module
[10:53] <CatKiller> I guessed this was modprobe.d, but no entry in there
[10:53] <peto_> hi
[10:53] <KnitGal> I was on 12.04, and last night I updated to 12.10.  there seems to be a corrupted file somewhere that loads the gui but it didn't occur to me to write the error message down.
[10:53] <DJHenjin> the problem i have is non SFTP accounts cannot logn to FTP however i need to be able to give FTP access on my shared hosting server to clients so that they can modify their sites
[10:54] <carlisle_> CatKiller: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules possibly?
[10:54] <peto_> If I have Windows 7 in a partition, Windows 8 in another partition... Do you think tha I could install Ubuntu Quantal?  Woud there be any issues?
[10:54] <KnitGal> the problem is when I have the gui set to Default or Ubuntu, the gui doesn't show up, except for the eclipse launcher i had created for the desktop.  when I switch to GNOME, I now have access to menu items for applications, system settings, etc.
[10:55] <KnitGal> not sure what to do about this - i'm kinda new to Ubuntu
[10:55] <violinappren> DJHenjin: commonly used FTP clients also support SFTP, so it probably wont be a problem for your clients, however giving FTP accounts is asking for trouble because passwords are sent in clear text, easily intercepted
[10:55] <KnitGal> gui being Unity
[10:55] <KsM> CatKiller: echo "options (module) (option)" >> /etc/modprobe.d/somename.conf
[10:55] <peto_> Is it easy install Quantal along Windows 7 and Windows 8 in the same computer?
[10:55] <carlisle_> KsM: i think he's saying the module is already being loaded but isn't in modprobe.d
[10:55] <CatKiller> ksM: I tried that, but the qla2xxx.conf was not there in modprobe.d
[10:56] <CatKiller> added it nonetheless
[10:56] <CatKiller> didn't change anythjing
[10:56] <thedoor> My RealTek network card is not working on 12.10, anyone can help me?
[10:56] <carlisle_> CatKiller: did you check the file i posted above?
[10:56] <DJHenjin> violinappren giving SFTP access to the server means giving root level access to the server as well, something i really do not want to do
[10:56] <CatKiller> How does the kernel decide which modules to load on boot?
[10:56] <war4head> I wont connect on my remote PC and start iceweasel on local PC (ssh -X user@remotepc), ok that is ok, but when I wont to print some web pages I can't to see my local printers (see only printers on remotepc), any idea how to se local printers on x11 app?
[10:56] <peto_> Is it easy install Quantal along Windows 7 and Windows 8 in the same computer? Does the new Grub make his job?
[10:56] <CatKiller> carlisle: Sorry I had missed that! Let me check
[10:56] <carlisle_> CatKiller: depends on whether it's being loaded at boot or via init later
[10:56] <CatKiller> carlisle_ In this case, it seems that it is at boot, 2 seconds in dmesg
[10:56] <KsM> carlisle_: well it doesn't have to preexist, it can be created after.
[10:57] <carlisle_> CatKiller: if it's in there and you update it be sure to run sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:57] <violinappren> DJHenjin: no it doesnt, sftp accounts are akin to shell accounts, limited and restricted as per the server configuration, you can even take this a step further by chrooting the sftp accounts to certain directories and disable shell login
[10:58] <CatKiller> carlisle_: If it's not in there and I add it, will it "override" whatever is currently loading it?
[10:58] <violinappren> DJHenjin: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/
[10:58] <sburjan> Hello. Any news about integrating back Pidgin into the messaging windows ?
[10:58] <carlisle_> CatKiller: i am not 100% sure about that
[10:58] <CatKiller> carlisle_: Actually, do you know what decides to load the module anyway? Is it because the PCI ID was matching a registered driver or something>
[10:59] <phr> guys, how can i remove that new dock on the left? :D it's annoying
[10:59] <pharhaan> Hello everybody
[10:59] <atlason> hello pharhaan
[10:59] <pharhaan> I just installed Ubuntu 12.01 on my Sony VAIO notebook
[11:00] <carlisle_> CatKiller: iirc there is a vendor and device id for each device
[11:00] <pharhaan> I accidentally pressed Airplane mode in networks and now cannot disable it...my wifi button below it is also not getting on
[11:00] <carlisle_> the kernel loads modules based on those
[11:00] <pharhaan> how can I fix it
[11:01] <philinux> phr: install gnome-session-fallback
[11:01] <fairuz> phr: It's not new.
[11:01] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I've been trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 64bits on my notebook with nvidia integrated graphics. The install fails most of the time because the system overheats above the safety limit and automatically shuts down. Nouveau is loaded but fails to cool the system. I know about Bumblebee, and it worked fine in 12.04 but I can
[11:01] <phr> philinux thanks, i'll try that.
[11:01] <carlisle_> CatKiller: e.g., output from lspci -nn: 00:10.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:d150] (rev 11)
[11:01] <BlackNarcissus> cant install it during the install process. Thanks for your help.
[11:01] <KsM> CatKiller: reload the module with modprobe to test, if it works, add the option to /etc/modprobe.d/ like I said, then do depmod -a and update-initramfs -u just to be sure I guess
[11:01] <carlisle_> [8086:d150] is the vendor:device id
[11:02] <KnitGal> installed 12.10, not getting dock items or having access to system settings, etc, when in Unity.  but have access when I'm in Gnome.  how to fix this?
[11:02] <philinux> phr: you then choose the session you want at login. Also see this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/lightweight-qt-desktop-environment.html?m=1
[11:02] <pharhaan> any help please???
[11:03] <CatKiller> carlisle_: Ok that's what I thought. So basically initramfs-tools can override or "manually" load extra modules
[11:03] <carlisle_> KsM: the only argument against putting it in modprobe.d is if he needs the module loaded before init
[11:03] <carlisle_> CatKiller: ya should be able to
[11:03] <CatKiller> KsM: Unfortunately, can't reload the module with options because it's got too many dependancies
[11:03] <phr> philinux thanks, i know that. i just wasnt sure how the dock is called and which pkg to remove
[11:03] <philinux> phr: dont remove anything
[11:04] <CatKiller> KsM: Once the system is booted could not even rmmod
[11:04] <pharhaan> I just installed Ubuntu 12.01 on my Sony VAIO notebook and I accidentally pressed Airplane mode in networks and now cannot disable it...my wifi button below it is also not getting on...how can I fix it???
[11:04] <SwedeMike> pharhaan: sudo rfkill list
[11:05] <asilhouette> pharhaan: go to settings network connections
[11:05] <phr> philinux do you suggest using razorQT?
[11:06] <philinux> phr: no it's just an option. I prefer unity now i've been using it for 2 years
[11:06] <asilhouette> pharhaan: top right, there is airplane mode switch
[11:06] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I've been trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 64bits on my notebook with nvidia integrated graphics. The install fails because the system overheats above the safety limit and automatically shuts down. Nouveau is loaded but the system fails to cool. I know about Bumblebee, and it worked fine in 12.04 but I can't use it during the install process. Any help ? Thank you.
[11:06] <pharhaan> assilhouette: I tried that...but when I close the window...it happens again...and the wifi LED on my notebook is also turned off
[11:07] <asilhouette> pharhaan: you want wifi to work right
[11:07] <pharhaan> yes
[11:07] <madlatvian> hi can anyone help us out with getting apache to work again I rm the config files /etc/apache now can't get it to reinstall
[11:08] <asilhouette> on the wireless tab do you see any networks or its all blank
[11:08] <pharhaan> it's blank
[11:08] <madlatvian> current error is No apache MPM package installed
[11:08] <CatKiller> carlisle_: Thanks!!!! That did it! Brilliant! :)
[11:09] <pharhaan> in fact my wifi isn't working now on my notebook...it's working on windows 7
[11:09] <CatKiller> carlisle_: You can't imagine how much googline time you saved me!
[11:09] <CatKiller> carlisle_: Thanks a million!
[11:09] <asilhouette> what happens when you press the wifi on button on the laptop
[11:10] <pharhaan> when i click it, it gets off again...
[11:10] <phr> pharhaan i guess the drivers for your wifi card ain't installed correctly or you're using wrong drivers for your wlan card
[11:10] <johey> I'm trying to report a bug using ubuntu-bug as told in the bug reporting guide, but when I select Other problem I get "You need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information."
[11:10] <johey> I don't know which package the bug is in.
[11:10] <asilhouette> yes i think so too
[11:11] <phr> pharhaan what chipset does the wlan card have?
[11:11] <asilhouette> was it working before
[11:11] <sangelion> can I skip retrieving file when install ubuntu... i need to wait about 7hour to finish installation?? what happen if i skip?? can I update later??
[11:11] <patie> i have problem with redmine after update to 12.10 :<  http://ScrnSht.com/mmtztw any idea ?
[11:11] <pharhaan> but when I fresh installed Ubuntu 12.01, it was working as a charm
[11:11] <pharhaan> but when i accidentally clicked airplane mode...it stuck there
[11:11] <johey> The bug is that the TrackPoint of my old ThinkPad keyboard behaves very badly in 12.10 (but works perfectly in 12.04).
[11:12] <violinappren> pharhaan: what's the ouput of the following command: sudo rfkill list
[11:12] <violinappren> !terminal | pharhaan
[11:12] <pharhaan> I don't know much about command line things in Ubuntu
[11:13] <violinappren> pharhaan:  open the terminal application and type the command
[11:13] <violinappren> !paste | pharaan , paste output here
[11:13] <cheshair> hi! is there anywhere on my system a log of what the report app send to ubuntu "central"?
[11:15] <yeats> cheshair: /var/log/apport.log
[11:15] <BlackNarcissus> Anyone has overheating issues during install on 12.10 that they didn't have on 12.04, with nvidia integrated graphics ?
[11:16] <tux9th> Hi
[11:16] <tux9th> I have another question: when I regulate the volume it regulates the master and the pcm
[11:16] <tux9th> about half way its mute
[11:16] <tux9th> and then its suddenly extremly loud
[11:16] <cheshair> yeats: yep, i found it. do you think there is any other data, a part from what i see in apport.log? (system paths, passwords, etc...)
[11:16] <tux9th> I once had a fix to only regulate on of those (either PCM or Master) iwth the applet; does anyone know how to do that?
[11:17] <pharhaan> meanwhile I am on windows 7
[11:17] <iceroot> cheshair: you mean which packages you have installed or the crash report?
[11:17] <pharhaan> I cannot access Ubuntu
[11:17] <phr> philinux dude, thank you so much! razorQT is awesome! :o
[11:18] <cheshair> yeats, iceroot: i think i found what i was looking for. the "crash report" which is under /var/crash
[11:18] <DJHenjin> violinappren in this line ChrootDirectory /sftp/%u i change the /sftp/%u to whatever directory i want them to access right?
[11:18] <cheshair> yeats, iceroot: did i get it right? thank you very much for your help
[11:18] <philinux> phr: glad it suits your needs. Is it as fast as they say
[11:18] <violinappren> DJHenjin: yes
[11:19] <DJHenjin> and thats for the entire sftp_users group though right?
[11:19] <phr> philinux yes, it looks clean, fast and user friendly. still checkin it out ;)
[11:19] <yeats> cheshair: not sure what you're after, but that sounds like the right place for crash reports
[11:19] <violinappren> DJHenjin: %u will be replaced by the user name
[11:19] <cheshair> yeats: :-) thanks again
[11:20] <DJHenjin> well, the directories arent set by username, however i guess i can change that
[11:20] <KnitGal> anyone have ideas about my 12.10 Unity issue?
[11:20] <violinappren> DJHenjin: /sftp/x for user x, /sftp/y for user y, and so on
[11:20] <sburjan> Hello. I have upgraded but I don't have all the options in unity-webapps. What can I do to fix this ?
[11:21] <DJHenjin> so if i have for example  /var/www/vhosts/x already i can simply create sftp user x under that group and it will automatically give them access to existing /var/www/vhosts/x ?
[11:21] <DJHenjin> provided i set /var/www/vhosts/%u
[11:22] <violinappren> DJHenjin: yes
[11:22] <DJHenjin> ok
[11:23] <violinappren> DJHenjin: and that you add them to the group
[11:23] <DJHenjin> yeah, of course
[11:25] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I've been trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 64bits on my notebook with nvidia integrated graphics. The install fails because the system overheats above the safety limit and automatically shuts down. Nouveau is loaded but the system fails to cool. I know about Bumblebee, and it worked fine in 12.04 but I can't use it during the install process. Any help ? Thank you.
[11:26] <patie> i have problem with redmine after update to 12.10 :<  http://pastebin.com/DUcK9baW / http://ScrnSht.com/mmtztw any idea ?
[11:30] <carlisle_> BlackNarcissus: can you address the heat issue via hardware, like setting up a fan to blow air on the laptop?
[11:30] <carlisle_> in general there's only so much software can do to overcome hardware issues like that
[11:30] <pharhaan> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[11:30] <pharhaan> 	Soft blocked: yes
[11:30] <pharhaan> 	Hard blocked: yes
[11:30] <pharhaan> 2: sony-wifi: Wireless LAN
[11:30] <pharhaan> 	Soft blocked: yes
[11:30] <pharhaan> 	Hard blocked: no
[11:30] <FloodBot1> pharhaan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:30] <pharhaan> 3: sony-bluetooth: Bluetooth
[11:31] <pratz> who can i use wc command for a string ?
[11:31] <carlisle_> echo $string | wc
[11:31] <pratz> or is it that it can be only used for file ?
[11:31] <pharhaan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289055/
[11:31] <BlackNarcissus> carlisle_ : I fact, that's what I did. It's was chilly outside this night, I put the laptop on the chair and installed it this way. :D But I'd like to reinstall now, so I figured I'd ask about that problem. I didn't have this on 12.04.
[11:32] <doslove> how setup wine
[11:32] <pharhaan> That's what I am getting in my terminal
[11:33] <ardchoille> !wine
[11:33] <carlisle_> BlackNarcissus: are fans spinning during install?
[11:33] <carlisle_> laptop fans, that is
[11:33] <pharhaan> somebody see my pastebin please
[11:34] <pharhaan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289055/
[11:34] <eamon> Which has higher priority, 1 or 255? http://puu.sh/1gosc
[11:34] <carlisle_> 1
[11:34] <eamon> Thanks carlisle_
[11:34] <carlisle_> np
[11:34] <Cur10u8> 1
[11:35] <safinaskar-work> what is the easiest way to open terminal in some modern ubuntu (for example, precise)?
[11:35] <BlackNarcissus> carlisle_ : Well, I can't really tell. I can't notice any difference in the laptop's noise and I can feel hot air blowing out of the vents. It's strange really.
[11:35] <carlisle_> can you manually set fan speed in the bios or something?
[11:35] <ItsAllGoneWierd> i upgraded to 12.10 last night, and now i got a folder in /home called fontconfig.. is that suppose to be a hidden folder?
[11:35] <Cur10u8> yes.
[11:36] <carlisle_> BlackNarcissus: it might be that there's a lot of dust buildup in your laptop case, could open it up and clean it out
[11:36] <ItsAllGoneWierd> i can just rename it to .fontconfig right? no problem? :)
[11:37] <almoxarife> ItsAllGoneWierd: yes, possible problem
[11:37] <safinaskar-work> ItsAllGoneWierd: no. fontconfig and .fontconfig is different names
[11:37] <BlackNarcissus> carlisle_ : There's no option to set fan in BIOS. And no, it's very clean, just got it back from technical service. On Windows or in Linux with Bumblebee installed, the temperature is normal, this only happens during the install process.
[11:37] <safinaskar-work> ItsAllGoneWierd: so, if one program created this folder, it will not find it under the new name
[11:38] <ItsAllGoneWierd> oh, i see i already got .fontconfig
[11:38] <BlackNarcissus> carlisle_ : Maybe I should report it.
[11:38] <safinaskar-work> ItsAllGoneWierd: so, keep its name. or just delete this folder :) (i think nothing happens)
[11:38] <carlisle_> BlackNarcissus: it is possible there is a software issue that's not causing the laptop to cool properly
[11:39] <ItsAllGoneWierd> can i find out if a program needs that folder before i delete it?
[11:39] <carlisle_> I'm pragmatic so I'd just find a way to cool the system during the install process because how often do you install OSes :P
[11:39] <carlisle_> ItsAllGoneWierd: rename it and if something breaks there's your answer :P
[11:39] <ItsAllGoneWierd> carlisle_, lol :D
[11:40] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Eh, they seem identical, fontconfig and .fontconfig
[11:40] <BlackNarcissus> carlisle_ : That's what I think. Yeah, me too, but I figured I could help or get some infos, if other people run into this problem. It's a deal breaker if people can't even install 12.10 because of this.
[11:41] <BlackNarcissus> carlisle_ : Anyway, thanks for your help :)
[11:41] <carlisle_> np :)
[11:46] <Flynsarmy> trying to install 12.10 on dell xpz 15z (nvidia optimus). I hit install Ubuntu and it goes to black screen with cursor. I try with acpi=off and nothing happens. ideas?
[11:47] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Flynsarmy
[11:47] <ben__> Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu (Got it yesterday) and I need some help :P
[11:48] <ben__> Someone please help
[11:48] <auronandace> ben__: it is difficult to help without a description of the issue
[11:48] <Shadow`_> dont ask to ask, just ask
[11:48] <Flynsarmy> auronandace that did it. thanks
[11:48] <auronandace> !yay | Flynsarmy
[11:48] <ben__> Okay, I installed Java 7 AND Java 6 on the software centre, and I use Chromium, and when I try to go on a Java program it doesn't work.
[11:50] <ben__> ?
[11:51] <jjkinas> Has anyone figured out why unity dissapears after you install the AMD/ATI drivers on 12.10 ?   I found a few forum topics of people with the same issue as me.
[11:51] <ben__> Another question; how do I install a tar.jz fire?
[11:51] <ben__> file*
[11:51] <Flynsarmy> aurorandace that kinda worked...took me to a command line for Ubuntu@Ubuntu for 10 seconds then screen went black
[11:51] <Cur10u8> this is my question too ben_
[11:52] <Cur10u8> pls help us.
[11:52] <compdoc> jjkinas, sounds like those drivers dont support 12.10
[11:52] <Cur10u8> how to install tar.jz file in ubuntu?
[11:53] <jits> hi guys.. i have my gateway setup .. and i would like to allow outgoing ssh to a system .. unable to get it to work .. ping works, ssh doesn't
[11:54] <KnitGal> hmm . . . just realized my laptop is AMD . . .
[11:55] <KnitGal> so, why doesn't these drivers support 12.10???
[11:55] <snowrichard> 12.10 unity desktop has some issues -- I was not able to log into gui with my normal user, only guest.  The login screen just came right back after I logged in.  I have switched to kubuntu desktop and it is working
[11:55] <buzzkill> jits:  what error do you see?
[11:55] <_cronus_> hello, how can i drag a file from a window to another that is behind it under unity?
[11:56] <joozers> jits cheack firewall ?
[11:56] <jits> the systems which are connected to access via gateway give timeout
[11:56] <_cronus_> dragging to the launcher doesn't seem to work
[11:56] <jjkinas> I have tried the 8x and new 9x ATI drivers for radeon hd   they dont work at all on 12.10
[11:56] <jits> the gateway system is able to ssh out ..
[11:56] <buzzkill> jits:  are they configured to allow ssh inbound?
[11:56] <auronandace> jjkinas: whats wrong with the default open source drivers?
[11:57] <KnitGal> jjkinas, what are these forums where these issues are being reported? I'd like to have a look at these
[11:57] <jjkinas> they dont work worth a shit
[11:57] <jjkinas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073198
[11:57] <riqdiiz> hello again
[11:57] <jjkinas> http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10-unity-is-missing
[11:57] <riqdiiz> hello
[11:58] <joozers> check the firewall on ur router and ur pc , jits
[11:58] <jits> buzzkill: I am able to get to the target server from the gateway pc.. the systems behind the gateway are not able to get to the target system ..
[11:58] <jits> joozers: I am able to get to the target server from the gateway pc.. the systems behind the gateway are not able to get to the target system ..
[12:00] <KnitGal> thanks . . .
[12:00] <riqdiiz> what will happen if i manually change my dynamic ip on a dial up connection?
[12:00] <joozers> jits: the can u ping the pc from behind the gateway ?
[12:01] <crimsonmane> hurricanes and earthquakes, riqdiiz. end of the world.
[12:01] <jits> joozers: yes ping is going thru ..
[12:01] <ryao> What changed in 12.10?
[12:02] <crimsonmane> 12.10 introduced some new bugs that you shouldn't bother with.
[12:02] <defekt> jits: are you using a linux PC as the gateway?
[12:02] <riqdiiz> :)
[12:02] <Pici> !floodbots | Cur10u8
[12:02] <jits> defekt: yes, iptables + ubuntu is my gateway :|
[12:03] <MonkeyDu1t> ryao  here's a review http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-12-10-released
[12:03] <defekt> crimsonmane: every new release of any OS comes with buys, with help of the community they get fixed
[12:03] <ryao> MonkeyDu1t: Thanks
[12:03] <crimsonmane> defekt: yes, and they also get some of my sarcasm.
[12:03] <defekt> s/buys/bugs
[12:03] <joozers> jits hmm then check ur iptables
[12:03] <crimsonmane> they git it... you don't. don't worry you'll catch on to me.
[12:04] <jits> joozers: :-) .. i have been struggling with it for 4 hours now.. can you point me to some page which explains this scenario
[12:04] <defekt> jits: have you set up NAT rules?
[12:04] <buzzkill> jits:  test by turning off iptables for a short period of time (like one test)
[12:04] <riqdiiz> why crimsonmane?
[12:05] <crimsonmane> why what, riqdiiz
[12:05] <jits> defekt: I have squid proxy running on the same gateway that works, ping works.. ssh doesn't ..
[12:06] <defekt> u git your not funny? please dont troll the channel
[12:06] <jits> buzzkill: I am able to get to the server from the gateway pc,, it is the iptables, I know.. need help configuring it..
[12:06] <joozers> jits i am not sure but check this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ssh-port-forwarding-with-iptables-and-dnat-477002/
[12:06] <KnitGal> jjkinas - i ran sudo apt-get remove fglrx and now i have the unity back
[12:06] <riqdiiz> what will happen if i manually change my dynamic ip on a dial up connection?
[12:06] <buzzkill> jits:  what joozers said.
[12:06] <jits> joozers: that is just opposite .. I want to go out of the lan network via the gateway ..
[12:06] <defekt> jits: ssh from where within the LAN or WAN to box?
[12:06] <KnitGal> except now, i'm getting an internal error having to do with one of the lens
[12:07] <jjkinas> KnitGal: but now it says low graphics mode right ?
[12:07] <jits> defekt: ssh from lan to the a server on internet via gateway thats my question ..
[12:07] <KnitGal> where do I check on that
[12:07] <Cur10u8> Youtube is blocked in our country . how can i access to youtube?
[12:08] <KnitGal> yeah, the icons look bigger - how do i check to see what graphics mode is it in (kinda new to Ubuntu)?
[12:08] <jjkinas> I dont know
[12:08] <crimsonmane> Cur10u8: spys.ru is a starting point
[12:08] <defekt> Cur10u8: check out www.torproject.org or proxies
[12:08] <buzzkill> jits:  can those client machines go out via the gateway box for http?
[12:08] <Magentium> Anyone else here got a Zenbook ??
[12:08] <jits> http is not allowed, only ping is.. http via squid proxy
[12:09] <Seditio> hi, can anyone help with a package problem? http://paste.planet-nexus.net/index.php?1 thanks
[12:09] <defekt> jits: do all other service work eg web browsing from a LAN pc to web?
[12:09] <buzzkill> jits: might be that the gateway box is not set up to route.. so the gateway box can reach the Internet, but it does not know how to forward packets along.
[12:09] <FlyingElvis> is there a way to turn off the ads when you are in the HUD...frickin annoying
[12:09] <jjkinas> I will try this fix, i guess doing so will remove the ati drivers and go back to the open source ones.
[12:09] <dr_willis> !noads
[12:10] <jjkinas> Just have to wait on playing any games until someone fixes this
[12:10] <jits> buzzkill: but ping is working..
[12:10] <dr_willis> FlyingElvis:  under privacy settings somewhere i recall. or you can remove the shopping lens
[12:10] <FlyingElvis> ok ty
[12:10] <FlyingElvis> ill go searching
[12:10] <jits> defekt: web browsing is via squid proxy .. that works fine..
[12:10] <dr_willis> FlyingElvis:  webupd8 has info on it
[12:10] <buzzkill> jits:  ping from internal host to external or from internal host to gateway?
[12:11] <jits> buzzkill: internal lan system to google.com
[12:11] <joozers> idk may be ip forwarding is not enabled
[12:11] <buzzkill> jits:  but proxying does not require the client to go to the Internet.
[12:11] <defekt> jjkinas: why dont you use the prop drivers from ati/amd
[12:11] <alumno> \JAVI
[12:11] <joozers> idk may be ip forwarding is not enabled jits
[12:11] <defekt> jits: what about other services?
[12:11] <buzzkill> joozers:  that is what I think the issue is.
[12:11] <L3top> Seditio: I take it you added a ppa and was trying to install oracle java, and now everything is terribly wrong?
[12:11] <alumno> ...
[12:11] <jits> buzzkill: the ping works, tracepath doesn't .. does that give you any indication?
[12:11] <joozers> jits http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[12:11] <jjkinas> defekt: they break unity on 12.10
[12:11] <Seditio> L3top, correct, I found it in a lifehacker post :/
[12:11] <riqdiiz> ye i see thanks...
[12:11] <alumno> ...
[12:12] <jits> joozers: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[12:12] <FlyingElvis> dr_willis, privacy is where you fix that  ty for the point
[12:12] <buzzkill> jits:  well, kind of... ping is icmp. ssh is tcp. If you do not have forwarding on, tcp connections will not go past the last hop that knows how to forward packets.
[12:13] <defekt> jjkinas: oh unity .. yuk
[12:14] <jits> joozers: thats taken care of .. i don't think squid works without it.. i just double checked and forwarding is all set ..
[12:14] <gone> hi!!!!
[12:14] <ben__> Wtf
[12:14] <KnitGal> okay  . . . looks like i'm going to have to keep an eyes for drivers that have been fixed to work with 12.10, right, jjkinas?
[12:14] <L3top> Seditio: What I would do, if I were you, is figure out the md5sum of the new tarball, un ar the package, fix it in the control file, package it back up, and finish the install. Every other way out of that I know is even MORE hacky, and you don't end up with what you wanted to begin with.
[12:14] <ben__> How do I get Java to work?!
[12:15] <vak> are there any working weather indicator for Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:15] <kroson> KnitGal: what is your trouble?
[12:15] <jjkinas> KnitGal: seems that way to me
[12:15] <defekt> jits: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[12:15] <buzzkill> jits:  http://linuxaria.com/article/how-to-ubuntu-gateway?lang=en
[12:15] <Seditio> L3top, when I saw this error, I removed the PPA and installed openjava from the software center, but it retries to install every time I do an upgrade / install any other package
[12:16] <L3top> correctomundo
[12:16] <defekt> Seditio: try purging and then installing again
[12:17] <KnitGal> apparently AMD drivers are not compatible with 12.10, kroson
[12:17] <Seditio> defekt, tried, doesn't work
[12:17] <KnitGal> I did sudo apt-remove fglrx and was able to get Unity back
[12:17] <jjkinas> kroson, seems KnitGal was having the same trouble as me and others posting in the forums:   Unity not showing up after installing amd/ati propritary drivers,    I guess removing them brings unity back but then you are running off those open source drivers
[12:17] <kroson> KnitGal: if you are using pre-HD5000 cards, then yes
[12:17] <dr_willis> vak:  i alwyas check out --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[12:17] <jjkinas> kroson:  I am using 6550 and 6670 and it happens here too
[12:17] <KnitGal> my laptop is Compaq Presario CQ62
[12:18] <KnitGal> not sure what version of AMD it is using
[12:18] <kroson> jjkinas: KnitGal oh i see. That's probably because 9.000 is catalyst 12.9, which is a beta driver
[12:18] <kroson> you need to wait for 12.10 which should bue out due later this month
[12:18] <KnitGal> umm . . . 12.10 is out now
[12:18] <gonyere> kroson ubuntu 12.10 released yesterday :p
[12:19] <jjkinas> Not only on the beta driver (which worked on 12.04)   but also the 8x driver does the same thing
[12:19] <KnitGal> what is 9.000?
[12:19] <dr_willis> http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/indicator-weather   works for me kak.
[12:19] <jjkinas> knitgal i will get kink
[12:19] <jjkinas> link*
[12:19] <dr_willis> oops. vak. ;)
[12:19] <kroson> KnitGal: gonyere i am talking about the amd driver version, not ubuntu version
[12:19] <ben__> I want to delete Ubuntu how do I do that???
[12:19] <kroson> the driver for fglrx that ubuntu currently provides is a beta one
[12:19] <ben__> How do I delete ubuntu
[12:20] <kroson> ben__: you delete its' partitions
[12:20] <buzzkill> ben__:  install a different OS
[12:20] <gonyere> ben__ you format and re-install whatever you want
[12:20] <dr_willis> ben__:  delet the partitions, reinstall whatever mbr you need.
[12:20] <kroson> But why would you do such thing?
[12:20] <L3top> Seditio: This is the reason PPAs are not recommended unless they are really trusted.
[12:20] <ben__> I hate this thing :(
[12:20]  * buzzkill thinks ben__ is trolling
[12:20] <L3top> ben__: how do you delete windows?
[12:20] <ben__> I'm not trolling
[12:20] <KnitGal> because  . . . ? ben___
[12:20] <jjkinas> KnitGal: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English      the 12.8 and 12.9 beta drivers :   both do not work for me , they leave unity broken
[12:20] <vak> dr_willis: indicator-weather is too crashy for me:-/
[12:20] <ben__> I would like it if it wasn't so hard to install stuff
[12:20] <dr_willis> Then you have gotten your answer ben__ - repartion then fix the bootloader
[12:21] <KnitGal> I have a Mac OS X-Mountain lion laptop, I have a Win7 laptop. so . . .
[12:21] <dr_willis> vak:  havent seen it crash yet.. but its been running for 5 min. ;P
[12:21] <ben__> I just don't like Ubuntu because it's way too hard to install stuff
[12:21] <kroson> jjkinas: because the are not supposed to work with the new xserver, so you have to wait for a new driver where it works
[12:21] <kroson> *they
[12:21] <vak> dr_willis: for a year here :-)
[12:21] <jrib> ben__: well if that's the isseu, I'd suggest taking a few minutes to learn the proper way to install things as I'd say most agree it's much easier to install things on ubuntu.  Have you learned about the Software Center?
[12:21] <gonyere> ben__ ... whats hard to install?
[12:21] <jjkinas> kroson :  thanks
[12:21] <kroson> ben__: i don't know of any OS where it is easier to install stuff than ubuntu
[12:22] <L3top> ben__: How is it hard? You have synaptic, or you can just type sudo apt-get install <package> in a terminal. Nothing easier.
[12:22] <dr_willis> kroson:  perhaps android. ;)
[12:22] <KnitGal> ben__ . . . I was able to figure out how to install stuff in ubuntu and I'm new to it
[12:22] <ben__> Well
[12:22] <Seditio> L3top, removed /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-java7-installer.prerm and purged, works fine now
[12:22]  * buzzkill reiterates his previous thoughtt
[12:22] <buzzkill> s/tt/t/
[12:22] <dr_willis> kroson:  just noticed the use of the apt: type links on many web sites.. makeing things even easier.  easy to install stuff when things like this work ----->    http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/indicator-weather
[12:22] <kroson> jjkinas: the fglrx driver from the repositories should work though, because it was provided by amd with the support for new ubuntu, so i don't know
[12:22]  * ben__ is rethinking this...
[12:23] <KnitGal> where is the driver from the repository?
[12:23] <kroson> dr_willis: android or iOS then xD
[12:23] <kroson> ben__: what are you going to install if you uninstall ubuntu?
[12:23] <L3top> !yay | Seditio  Was just looking for that prior to engaging troll
[12:23] <KnitGal> thanks for the link, dr_willis . . .
[12:24] <ben__> I have a question then; how do I install Java? It's not working...
[12:24] <kroson> ben__: install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:24] <KnitGal> sudo apt-get remove [name of java package]?
[12:24] <jjkinas> Kroson: ,  Would that be the one installed via the Software Sources tab Additional drivers.    After fresh install , it said restart for drivers to activate on that tab and it came back with no unity still
[12:25] <buzzkill> ben__:  "its not working" provides nothing of use... try: "I am having trouble with java, when I try to run <xxxx> it reports <some error>"
[12:25] <KnitGal> kroson, whats the link to the repository for the fglrx driver?
[12:25] <Kvaks> My laptop's wifi-button (enable/disable) is broken, so I'm stuck with wifi disabled. Any way to enable it by software?
[12:25] <ben__> I don't get errors. It just says I don't have it installed.
[12:25] <kroson> jjkinas: that's an issue with the driver it seems, then. Have you checked if the linux-headers package is installed?
[12:25] <buzzkill> ben__:  see. that even tells us more... 'sudo apt-get install java'
[12:25] <L3top> !java | ben__
[12:26] <kroson> KnitGal: it is in the additional drivers tab in "Software Sources"
[12:26] <jjkinas> kroson:  no  I have not checked that
[12:27] <L3top> ben__: chances are you are trying to run something that is sun java specific. Oracle bought sun java, and lawyered up and had canonical remove it from our repos. You will need to uninstall the java you currently have, and install from source from oracle, because they don't want to play nice with linux. Still isn't that hard.
[12:27] <kroson> i think it should be installed, maybe the system doesn't install it automatically. So try it
[12:27] <jjkinas> thanks kroson
[12:27] <kroson> ben__: what java doesn't work for you? applets, web?
[12:27] <akis> i am running a freshly installed xubuntu 12.04 on my desktop after i was disappointed from unity/gnome3. everything is running perfect and smoothly but when i am quiting chromium the system freezes for 35 seconds and then runs as usual. ok thats not a big problem because i am using firefox 16.0 which is smooth and fast (maybe now as fast as chromium it is) but i am wondering why appeared this issue. Under ubuntu 12.04 i run for an month Chromium
[12:27] <akis> without any problem. I am running also chromium in two notebooks under xubutnu 12.04 and nothing is going bad. why i have this problem in my desktop? is there anything to do with my accelarator card (nvidia)? i am using the reccomended form systme driver at additional drivers and everything is ok. any other idea or advise?
[12:27] <Flynsarmy> Trying to install 12.10 on dell xps 15z (nvidia optimus). I set both acpi=off and nomodeset but adding nomodeset just took me to a ubuntu@ubuntu prompt for 10 secs before the screen goes black. any ideas how to install?
[12:27] <KnitGal> hmm . . . i'm seeing "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[12:27] <kroson> jjkinas: if it doesn't work even then, it should be a unity/fglrx bug
[12:28] <kroson> KnitGal: install the one for AMD
[12:28] <L3top> how did you install crhomium akis?
[12:28] <KnitGal> not getting a list of drivers
[12:28] <KnitGal> when I'm in "additional drivers"
[12:28] <kroson> KnitGal: so your card is not supported by the newer versions of the drivers, you have to use the opensource ones
[12:28] <L3top> KnitGal: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:28] <kroson> which are already installed on your system
[12:29] <akis> L3top: from ubuntu software center. all the times i used this service to install chromium.
[12:29] <ben__> You know what
[12:29] <ben__> I'm gonna multi-system
[12:29] <carlisle_> akis: does this only happen with xfce on 12.04?
[12:29] <ben__> Windows for games and Ubuntu for everything else
[12:29] <L3top> akis: just checking... a LOT of people install a repo and go at it that way rather than using what is in official repos... often causing problems
[12:30] <KnitGal> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[12:30] <kroson> ben__: that's what i doo, too :)
[12:30] <akis> carlisle: yep. only with xcfe, on this machine. not with gnome/unity, not in other machines running xubuntu 12.04
[12:30] <ben__> Good to know other people do it, thanks :D
[12:30] <kroson> KnitGal: yep, 4xxx series, not supported
[12:30] <compdoc> nee?
[12:30] <L3top> Be forewarned ben__ that installing windows is going to blow up grub, and you will need to fix it after windows stomps on it.
[12:30] <KnitGal> ah, gotcha
[12:31] <CXIV> Can I use Gnome 3 without hardware acceleration?
[12:31] <KnitGal> understandable, since this laptop is about 4 years old or so
[12:31] <KnitGal> i think
[12:31] <akis> L3top: i used the same repo in my previous installation for ubuntu 1.04 and for my other 2 notebooks. is ti possible that somenthing changed in couple of days?
[12:31] <KnitGal> it's one of the low-end laptop
[12:31] <L3top> ben__: if you are starting from scratch... it is easiest just to install windows on the whole drive, then install ubuntu letting ubuntu repartition and write grub loader.
[12:31] <kroson> KnitGal: if you are not using ubuntu for 3d intensive games, you will be fine with those drivers
[12:31] <KnitGal> no big deal since i'm not a gamer, anyway
[12:32] <kroson> https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx?field.series_filter=quantal You could also try this at your own risk. I have not tested this myself.
[12:32] <L3top> KnitGal: what version of ubuntu are you on, sorry?
[12:32] <KnitGal> 12.10 now
[12:32] <CXIV> Is it worth to use Gnome 3 without acceleration?
[12:32] <ben__> How will I fix the Grub?
[12:32] <L3top> Oh I really hope the fglrx version in quantal isn't the one that dropped the hd 2xxx -4xxx series
[12:33] <L3top> KnitGal: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed
[12:33] <KnitGal> nothng instaled
[12:33] <carlisle_> akis: if xfce is the only thing different on your machine you might want to try asking in #xfce to see if they know
[12:33] <KnitGal> i did remove fglrx earlier
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: returns '(none)'    ?
[12:34] <KnitGal> no returns at all
[12:34] <L3top> oh... why did you do that?
[12:34] <of1> Anyone installed snort 2.9.3.1 from source please?
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: capital I
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: capital i
[12:34] <L3top> KnitGal: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed
[12:34] <akis> carlisle: ok.
[12:34] <KnitGal> because . . . I wasn't getting Unity loaded
[12:35] <KnitGal> once i removed fglrx, i was able to get Unity loaded
[12:35] <auronandace> L3top: or grep -i installed
[12:35] <jjkinas> I had to do the same thing to get unity to load and I am on Radeon HD 6550  /  ubuntu 12.10
[12:35] <L3top> of course ;)
[12:35] <diverdude> I have installed a huawei modem in my machine, and i would like to be able to dial up using that modem. How can i do that ? (terminal only) And first, how do i see what modem it actually is?
[12:36] <L3top> jjkinas: does your additional drivers show anything jjkinas?
[12:36] <of1> I installed snort latest from source but this is not logging any alert to the alert file. The "alert" file is always empty. Anyone can help me please?
[12:36] <jjkinas> Yes It shows the two that showed up in 12.04      one worked and one did not on 12.04                          on 12.10 they both dont work
[12:37] <L3top> of1: were you root when you installed it of1? check the permissions of the alert file
[12:37] <SkippersBoss> Any one else getting restricted hardware recognised by the successor to Jockey ?
[12:38] <L3top> hmmm... well that doesn't bode well KnitGal.
[12:38] <L3top> jjkinas: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep -i candidate
[12:38] <of1> L3top, Yeah . I also tried with -l /home/of1/Documents but same
[12:38] <diverdude> when i insert my usb device i cannot find it in /dev. Why?
[12:39] <KnitGal> just ran that and i get Candidate: 2:9:000-0ubuntu3
[12:39] <L3top> of1: ll /home/of1/Documents/alert  (or whatever the alert file name/path is)
[12:39] <dhanasekaran> How to reload /etc/environment without rebooting?
[12:40] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to reload /etc/environment without rebooting?
[12:40] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to reload /etc/environment without rebooting?
[12:40] <of1> L3top, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 19 08:31 Documents/alert
[12:40] <L3top> !patience | dhanasekaran
[12:40] <jrib> dhanasekaran: what did you change?
[12:41] <L3top> sudo chown of1: /home/of1/Documents/alert
[12:41] <danny> is there a simple program to install .tar.gz files?
[12:41] <dhanasekaran> jrib, HADOOP_CMD="/usr/bin/hadoop"
[12:41] <L3top> danny: tarballs are sort of like zip files. You install their contents in many different ways.
[12:42] <jrib> danny: you generally want to avoid installing .tar.gz yourself. You should try to use the repositories whenever possible.  What are you trying to install exactly?
[12:42] <of1> L3top, i am running the snort as root ... Okay... Doing it
[12:42] <danny> I extracted it now I don't know what to do with it
[12:42] <jrib> dhanasekaran: just log out and back in.  If you only need the variable set for a particular instance of a shell, then you can just source the file
[12:42] <danny> SRWare iron
[12:43] <danny> it is a browser
[12:43] <dhanasekaran> jrib,  it's same like .bashrc correct
[12:43] <dhanasekaran> jrib, It will not take variable
[12:43] <L3top> danny: there is almost always a README file explaining how to install
[12:43] <jrib> dhanasekaran: except /etc/environment is system-wide and is sourced when you login
[12:43] <jrib> dhanasekaran: I don't know what you mean by "It will not take variable"
[12:44] <danny> ok looking in the folder now
[12:44] <of1> L3top, empty!
[12:45] <diverdude> i have installed a ubuntu server, terminal only. is it actually possible to put in a desktop environment like gnome fairly easily?
[12:45] <StevenR> diverdude: yes, what desktop env do you want?
[12:45] <L3top> Ok of1... worth a shot. I am unfamiliar with the program, was just trying to look at it from general terms.
[12:45] <jrib> diverdude: yep, just install it with apt-get
[12:45] <philinux> diverdude: yep just install ubntu-desktop
[12:45] <philinux> for instance
[12:46] <of1> L3top, Okay
[12:46] <iceroot> diverdude: then you could install the desktop version directly, the only difference for server is that the DE is missing
[12:47] <diverdude> iceroot: yeah i know...but now i have installed a lot on the server and i dont wanna redo it...just need to put in DE also somehow
[12:47] <danny> no readme
[12:47] <StevenR> diverdude: do you want the unity desktop? or some other desktop env?
[12:48] <danny> many .pak files
[12:48] <diverdude> StevenR: does not matter so much...unity is fine i think
[12:49] <researcher123> I caqnt upgrade form 12.04 to 12.10 Please HELP
[12:49] <carlisle_> researcher123: you're going to have be more descriptive than that, try describing the problem and providing error messages
[12:49] <StevenR> diverdude: well, it's up to you :) for unity, use "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", for KDE, replace ubuntu with kde, for XFCE replace ubuntu with xubuntu
[12:50] <StevenR> (in the command of course)
[12:50] <k1l_> researcher123: you need to change the upgrade prompt fro LTS to normal
[12:50] <diverdude> stevanr: ok thats nice...and can i disable it again later if i want?
[12:50] <StevenR> diverdude: yes
[12:51] <researcher123> carlisle_: I cant see any button from Upgrade after I check Update manager
[12:51] <Eagleman> Some one knows what the purpose of these files ( 01.pem ) are in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys/  ?
[12:52] <StevenR> Eagleman: they're certificates most likely
[12:52] <researcher123> is there a Command Line for upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04?
[12:52] <Eagleman> Used for?
[12:52] <StevenR> researcher123: do-release-upgrade I think
[12:52] <Eagleman> I have been unable to find their purpose so far. they are just there
[12:52] <carlisle_> researcher123: see k1l_'s response
[12:52] <StevenR> Eagleman: do you use openvpn?
[12:53] <Eagleman> Yes
[12:53] <StevenR> Eagleman: then you might need them, depending on your openvpn settings
[12:53] <Eagleman> I created them with ./build-key client i guess
[12:53] <Eagleman> stevanr thats my question i dont know where i need them for and how to use them
[12:54] <researcher123> k1l_:how to do that
[12:54] <dyd> what distro would you suggest if you want a clean and fast os?
[12:54] <SpaceAviator> dyd debian
[12:54] <dyd> the minimum video effects etc
[12:54] <bazhang> SpaceAviator, this is ubuntu support, lets stay within the ubuntu family on that
[12:55] <bazhang> !lubuntu > dyd
[12:55] <SpaceAviator> oh
[12:55] <k1l_> researcher123: open software-properties-gtk and go to the 3rd tab
[12:55] <SpaceAviator> dyd: lubuntu or xubuntu
[12:55] <k1l_> dyd: as you ask in a ubuntu channel go with some ubuntu taste. like lubuntu
[12:55] <dyd> SpaceAviator: thanks
[12:55] <dyd> k1l_: i'll check it out!
[12:55] <Eagleman> How do i recover items removed with rm ?
[12:55] <naimar> hello all, I am searching for a network analysis tool for a home network but, I found a couple of them but all I can capture is traffic of my own local machine and not a specific host on my network
[12:56] <SpaceAviator> When I boot 12.10 off live usb I get a splash screen and it boots of great but after install the splash screen isnt there. My monitor literally goes into power saving mode for three seconds during the boot process and then the login screen shows up. What gives?
[12:56] <drostie> Have people been reporting that the CD does not boot for them or is it likely that it's just a CD burning error?
[12:56] <L3top> anybody know anything about gnomebuntu, or gnubuntu or whatever it got named? It was supposed to be released yesterday as well...
[12:56] <drostie> Eagleman: you generally don't, but there may be software packages which can scan the disk.
[12:56] <SpaceAviator> drostie: likely cd burnign error
[12:56] <bazhang> drostie, 12.10?
[12:56] <drostie> bazhang: yep.
[12:56] <bazhang> drostie, its 800mb
[12:56] <L3top> drostie: try USB. It is faster and more reliable.
[12:56] <drostie> going to try unity again and see if I like it yet. ^_^
[12:57] <SpaceAviator> bazhang: any idea about my problem
[12:57] <researcher123> k1l_: done
[12:57] <researcher123> k1l_: Successfull.Thanks a lot
[12:58] <joozers> use slow burning so slow for better resualts
[12:58] <Eagleman> I would like to know what these files do: (01.pem 02.pem ) in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys. I think I made them my self with: ./build-key client But I don’t know what those files do.
[12:59] <kush> i am so new here
[12:59] <joozers> dont delete those each use u make or server has a .pem
[12:59] <kush> saying hi to you all
[12:59] <joozers> user*
[12:59] <SpaceAviator> When I boot 12.10 off live usb I get a splash screen and it boots of great but after install the splash screen isnt there. My monitor literally goes into power saving mode for three seconds during the boot process and then the login screen shows up. What gives?
[12:59] <SpaceAviator> actually scratch that
[12:59] <SpaceAviator> people with 12.10 do you see plytmouth during boot?
[13:00] <Eagleman> joozers what?
[13:00] <SpaceAviator> after install
[13:00] <XRS1> Unable to mount USB mass storage device. "Adding read ACL for uid 1000 to `/media/xrs1' failed: Operation not supported"
[13:00] <XRS1> mount does not work, umount does not work. desktop icon report volume non existant
[13:01] <L3top> SpaceAviator: you might remove quiet splash from kernel boot params... and replace with text, if you want to see the boot process... or you might dpkg --reconfigure plymouth. I have not seen your specific issue before... so not really sure.
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> L3top: I did try removing quiet and splash from params. Didnt do anything
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> still the black screen
[13:01] <SuperLag> What's the +mac in some of the file names for the Ubuntu downloads?
[13:01] <L3top> replace with text SpaceAviator.
[13:01] <KnitGal> okay . . . how do i trigger web apps in 12.10 - it doesn't seem to be enabled
[13:01] <XRS1> that uh... "hassles of Windows 8" slogan working out for ya?
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> okay
[13:01] <SpaceAviator> L3top: brb
[13:02] <L3top> SpaceAviator: what is your gpu out of curiosity? lspci -nn | grep VGA
[13:02] <SpaceAviator> L3top: ATi 7850
[13:02] <L3top> That isn't the output :P
[13:02] <joozers> Eagleman each user or server you create has a file with .pem stored there if u deleted the pem the user or server wont be able to connect to the vpn server its the certificate for the user or server
[13:03]  * L3top deals mostly with pciids. Ah lika da verbose output
[13:03] <SpaceAviator> L3top: let me reboot back into it :)
[13:03] <r33P33r> hey
[13:03] <r33P33r> need some help please
[13:03] <joozers> r33P33r with what ?
[13:03] <r33P33r> have upgraded to 12.10 but get ugly window bar
[13:04] <r33P33r> googled alot but nothing
[13:04] <r33P33r> all this on gnome 3
[13:04] <elderman> Hello, I am having trouble configuring my touchpad in Lubuntu 12.10.  There are no configuration options as far as I can tell.  The problem's similar to bug 527890, but not the same.  This is the first time I've had trouble with my touchpad on an Ubuntu variant..
[13:04] <elderman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/527890
[13:04] <joozers> lolz thats why i am still with 9.10 xP
[13:05] <naimar> hello all, I am searching for a network analysis tool (ubuntu) for a home network but, I found a couple of them but all I can capture is traffic of my own local machine and not a specific host on my network
[13:05] <gordonjcp> naimar: aha
[13:05] <gordonjcp> naimar: you need wireshark, and a switch that you can configure to have a monitor port
[13:06] <Guest62876> ciao
[13:06] <naimar> this switch can be a linux machine?
[13:06] <yeats> !it | Guest62876
[13:06] <joozers> naimar so u want to do something like mitm attack ?
[13:06] <naimar> no
[13:07] <joozers> then wireshark should do the trick
[13:07] <naimar> ok thank you very much
[13:10] <SpaceAviator> L3top, the text didnt show e any text while booting up. Took me to a login shell.
[13:10] <SpaceAviator> Now what else did you want?
[13:12] <freegrep> The encryption option during installation of 12.10... There is no cipher choice. I assume this means it uses AES128? If I'm building my own custom installation media, where should I be looking in order to change the cipher?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:13] <cire> How do I start a browser on bootup in X, without display manager & user login?
[13:14] <SpaceAviator> L3top, ping
[13:15] <SpaceAviator> anyone else having plymouth problems in 12.10?
[13:15] <Tony_Stark> I need some help with a gnome problem.  I updated from 3.2.4 to 3.4.2.1 last │ buz
[13:15] <Tony_Stark>                   │                    | night.  Now now matter whether I am in classic mode or regular my menus are  │ cento_
[13:15] <Tony_Stark>                   │                    | not quite right.  The task bar buttons are darker than the rest of the bar   │ clem_
[13:15] <Tony_Stark>                   │                    | and washed out on some themes.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[13:15] <FloodBot1> Tony_Stark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <Tony_Stark> I have a problem with my menus.  I updated gnome last night and now my menus and taskbar buttons are darker than the rest of the bar and some themes have them completely washed out.
[13:16] <L3top> sorry... I am now deep in stuff SpaceAviator... going to be away for a bit. Ping me if you find a solution. Again try dpkg --reconfigure. Seems like plymouth display is barking something your monitor cannot understand so it goes no signal.
[13:16] <excalibr> Is anyone else having problem with not being able to change window titlebar font?
[13:16] <excalibr> in 12.10
[13:16] <Tony_Stark> Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[13:16] <DJones> cire: Sounds like you need something like a kiosk mode, this might help http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/?ALLSTEPS although its for an older version of Ubuntu, but maybe get you started
[13:17] <Braber01> for some reason anthy has defaulted to Katakana, how can I change it back to Hirigana?
[13:17] <indieross> cire, http://uzbl.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbl
[13:18] <Tony_Stark> I have also lost checks in boxes and they are now higlighted.  What can I do to get things back to the way they were?
[13:18] <indieross> cire, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers_for_Unix_and_Unix-like_operating_systems
[13:18] <cire> DJones: indieross: thanksd a lot, IO will dig into that
[13:19] <indieross> cire, and you might want to look at starting one of thos programs as a service in a specific run-level
[13:20] <Tony_Stark> hello eveyone...can anyone give me some advice?
[13:20] <indieross> Tony_Stark, say perhaps to drugs
[13:21] <cire> indieross: Yeah, that's what I am thinking about. Ubuntu Kisosk seems to use display manager and autologin somehow, right? I think I can avoid that. I do not install any ubuntu desktop packages. Just plain installation + xorg + browser
[13:21] <cire> then I have to think where to hook into starzup process
[13:22] <diverdude> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop tajes foreeveeeeeer
[13:22] <diverdude> takes
[13:22] <indieross> cire, http://greeennotebook.com/2010/06/run-your-program-as-a-service-with-upstart-in-ubuntu/
[13:22] <cire> indieross: thank you
[13:23] <basketballstar> how can i use 12.10 web apps in chromium
[13:24] <indieross> cire, http://nixgeeks.com/how-to-enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-server/
[13:25] <akis> which is the recommended driver for xubuntu 12.04? this one which the system provides as recommended or maybe version 173? which is the difference?
[13:25] <indieross> cire, note the tty is the run level, and i believe just as the desktop the server boots you into tty 7
[13:26] <indieross> akis, the nvidia driver?
[13:26] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. when I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again.
[13:26] <akis> indieross: yes
[13:27] <indieross> akis, run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa then sudo apt-get update
[13:27] <basketballstar> anyone
[13:28] <akis> ok thanks. is this repo an official and safe one?
[13:28] <indieross> akis, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and finally sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[13:28] <indieross> akis that ppa has the most up to date xorg and graphics drivers
[13:29] <indieross> akis, sorry i meant sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:29] <akis> ok. thanks. i have already installed a driver in my system recommended from Xubuntu 12.04. is that a problem?
[13:29] <indieross> no
[13:29] <gaetano_> hi everyone
[13:32] <akis> indieross: the system discovered upadates. do i proceed using update manager or do i proceed manually?
[13:32] <ElioT> 5vs5 off
[13:32] <indieross> either or is fine
[13:32] <gaetano_> someone knows how to customize ubuntu studio !!??
[13:32] <akis> indieross: so both have the same result?
[13:32] <ElioT> 5VS5 OFF
[13:32] <indieross> gaetano_, ubuntu tweak
[13:32] <Eagleman> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<***@***.com>:
[13:32] <Eagleman>     host mail.a******.com [***.***.***.***]:
[13:32] <Eagleman>     550 "Reject:008h"
[13:32] <indieross> akis, yup
[13:33] <Eagleman> Why is it failing?
[13:33] <tomillares> Hello, I have problems setting up ufw to skype, any help?
[13:33] <larseirik> hi. my desktop-icons are all gone after upgrade to 12.10. they are in the desktop-folder, but not on mydesktop.when i right-click on the desktop, nothing happens.
[13:34] <mph_> hey
[13:34] <indieross> akis, actully run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal
[13:34] <indieross> to upgrade
[13:34] <jrib> larseirik: the notes mention some nautilus crash bugs.  Check them out and see if starting nautilus returns your desktop
[13:34] <jrib> !notes | larseirik
[13:35] <akis> indieross: now update manager works and updates. then do i have to run the above?
[13:35] <indieross> i would, just to mnake sure everything updated properly
[13:35] <jpmh> I used to be able to connect to a remote network machine and have a mounted drive over ssh - how do I do this with 12.4?
[13:35] <gaetano_> indierros thanx! im totally new with ubuntu!
[13:36] <indieross> jpmh, look into sshfs
[13:36] <jrib> jpmh: I've always used sshfs for that.  There's probably a gui way too in nautilus
[13:36] <gaetano_> indieross thanx! im totally new with ubuntu!!
[13:36] <akis> ok. when it stops i will run it. i can see that is downloading and installing nvidia-current among many otehr files
[13:37] <Eagleman> 550 "Reject:008h" what does that mean?
[13:37] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[13:37] <akis> indieross: i wish i want loose my freshly installed system!
[13:37] <Wiz_KeeD> scripts that should be ran by apache have the www-data user and www-data group in them, how can i make it so that i can also edit the files with my personal user?
[13:37] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys, what would be the fastest way to display the outgoing connection addresses of a target ip address on a network using ubuntu?
[13:37] <EarlGray> Hello all. I am maintaining a proprietary product with ubuntu installer. The thing I need to do is detecting the firewall configuration and adding my service to it. Is there any hope to cope iptables? How many people do use it without ufw?
[13:38] <jpmh> jrib: found it - forgot about the hidden tabs at the top - just use Home Folder and then File
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[13:38] <truexfan81> when is the laptop overheating going to be fixed in 12.04?
[13:38] <indieross> jpmh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS look at the fstab bit
[13:39] <mindbender1> how can I correct this message from apt-get: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[13:39] <pestilence> bah, why did 12.10 remove my custom keyboard shortcuts :-(
[13:39] <vitimiti> o/
[13:39] <indieross> that will automatically mount the sshfs on startup
[13:39] <indieross> jpmh ^
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  try sudo apt-get -f install
[13:39] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: put yourself into the www-data group?
[13:39] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried that k1l_ :( didn't work
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> used googled tutorials
[13:40] <akis> indieross: finished. i am going for a restart. do i have to do anything before it to be sure that the systme will restart normally?
[13:40] <truexfan81> the overheating i'm referring to is a kernel bug
[13:40] <truexfan81> so i guess i'm asking when it will be updated to a kernel that has the fix
[13:41] <jrib> truexfan81: you should be asking on the bug's page on launchpad
[13:41] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: it's still giving me the message. I'm trying to install php5-curl and I'm getting --The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:41] <mindbender1>  php5-curl : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[13:41] <mindbender1> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[13:41] <vietpham> Sam ?
[13:41] <pestilence> oh this is grand.  when will ubuntu ever have functional 3d graphics with a dual monitor setup?  when I switch monitors, none of my open windows are visible until I click into one of them.  which is hard to do, considering they are invisible!
[13:42] <pestilence> they seem to be "hidden" behind the desktop!  how weird.
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  try sudo apt-get update, first
[13:42] <pestilence> how do you disable the 3d effects in 12.10?  I had them disabled in 12.04 because they don't work.
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  try myUnity
[13:43] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: what is that?
[13:44] <pestilence> and why does firefox keep asking me to "install" websites?  how irritating!
[13:44] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: still happening. does it have anything to do with my sources.list?
[13:44]  * pestilence needs moar coffee to deal with this upgrade
[13:45] <mindbender1> maybe it's not accessing the right repo?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  make sure you don't have old sources, that are no longer used or updated
[13:45] <mindbender1> what the command to clear old cache again?
[13:46] <pestilence> mindbender1: apt-get clean
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  type sudo apt-get update | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[13:46] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: there is no "myunity" in 12.10.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  just noticed, too, it's gone, pity
[13:47] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: ha!  so the question remains, how do you disable these dysfunctional graphics effects?
[13:47] <Eagleman> I would like to know what the purpose of these files are: (01.pem 02.pem ) in /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys. I think I made them my self with: ./build-key client But I don’t know what those files do.
[13:48] <pestilence> Eagleman: those are your private keys I believe...
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  i don't like/use unity, but i'll see what i find
[13:48] <wols> Eagleman: they are the encryption keys
[13:48] <Eagleman> pestilence but as far i know they are not being used anywhere
[13:48] <pestilence> Eagleman: you are running a server?  they are used by your clients to connect..
[13:48] <wols> Eagleman: http://serverfault.com/questions/9708/what-is-a-pem-file-and-how-does-it-differ-from-other-openssl-generated-key-file
[13:49] <wols> pestilence: public ones
[13:49] <Eagleman> pestilence no they use .crt files
[13:49] <Eagleman> not .pem
[13:49] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: still happening
[13:49] <pestilence> wols: you're right.
[13:49] <mindbender1> I think I may have mistakenly held broken packages
[13:49] <rich_> Is 12.10 server out yet?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  type sudo apt-get update | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[13:49] <mindbender1> according to the msg
[13:50] <pestilence> Eagleman: mv 01.pem 01.pem.now_openvpn_doesnt_work  and see what happens!
[13:50] <pestilence> (you may have to restart your vpn server)
[13:50] <rich_> http://pastebin.com/dW9CAQJ1  I dont get the option to upgrade :(
[13:50] <Eagleman> pestilence nothing, thats why i am asking about their purpose
[13:50] <Eagleman> In know that the .csr files are used to sign them for a .crt file
[13:50] <pestilence> Eagleman: both of your clients can still connect when you have moved the pem files?
[13:51] <Eagleman> but i am not sure about the .pem files yet
[13:51] <pestilence> (and restarted the vpn service)
[13:51] <Eagleman> pestilence yes becuase they use .crt and .key files, none of them are .pem
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> rich_  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[13:52] <drostie> .pem stands for "privacy-encoded mail" or so, I'd check what's inside the file with a text editor if you can.
[13:52] <drostie> It may well be a private key, which you wouldn't want to delete.
[13:52] <rich_> MonkeyDust: should I not be able to upgrade my existing install?
[13:52] <pestilence> Eagleman: i'm not certain about this.  I think the .crt is your server's certificate.  the .key file is the client's private key, which is needed only on the client.  the .pem is the public key, needed on the server.
[13:53] <teddyp1cker> anyone tested wayland in 12.10 ?
[13:53] <SEtx> can someone help me with setup of samba4 on 12.10 server or is there some other channel for server?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> rich_  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:53] <peto_> Does the new Grub in Ubuntu detect a double boot Windows 7 / Windows 8 and installs Ubuntu 12.10 along both of them?
[13:53] <Eagleman> pestilence they are not used on the server either
[13:53] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: i get the msg -- You will have to enable the component called 'universe' . Do you know which repo I need to have for that?
[13:54] <pestilence> Eagleman: please explain how you determined that
[13:54] <joozers> Eagleman it is used but but bydefualt its not
[13:54] <drostie> mindbender1: it *is* a repo.
[13:54] <Eagleman> pestilence this is all i use with openvpn: http://pastebin.com/8VK50SEf
[13:54] <Eagleman> no easy-rsa created them and i have no idea why and for what they are used
[13:55] <drostie> mindbender1: either look for a "software sources" option or else edit /etc/apt/sources.list to add universe to the deb lists.
[13:55] <joozers> Eagleman for e.g if u made a client and u want to delete him from the vpn so he cant access it u have to do some thing that is going to use the pem files (i dont remember exactly what it was but this is what i use the pem files for)
[13:55] <pestilence> Eagleman: i understand that it is not referenced explicitly in the config file.  but you should perhaps read on how public/private keypairs work.
[13:56] <Eagleman> joozers its called revoking
[13:56] <Eagleman> But also tried that
[13:57] <drostie> Eagleman: open the damn thing up in a text editor, what does it say?
[13:57] <joozers> Eagleman xP yeah that its been a long time since i last used my vpn server
[13:57] <rockit> Hi guys, The lightdm window manager has crashed twice in the past 5 minutes. Is there any way to view the logs?
[13:58] <joozers> tail dmesg
[13:58] <pestilence> rockit: have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[13:58] <gaetano_> wich tweaks i need to download for ubuntu studio!!??
[13:58] <rockit> I've not I will go investigate now, Thanks pestilence
[13:59] <drostie> gaetano_: medibuntu?
[13:59] <gaetano_> thanks!
[13:59] <estaban> i on 12.04 this how u get official nvidia drivers? sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ??
[14:00] <Eagleman> drostie: http://pastebin.com/bCArwPjc
[14:00] <gaetano_> with medibuntu can i customize the desktop in 3d??
[14:01] <pestilence> gah.  why does everything have to break.  why won't empathy connect to gmail anymore???
[14:01] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289369/
[14:02] <drostie> Eagleman: okay, that is a certificate. When you use a protocol like TLS (/SSL) you have to exchange public keys. In theory this requires a chain of trust but it looks like your certificates are being self-signed which is also OK in principle but not always in practice.
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  i see a mix of i386 and amd64, not sure if it could be that
[14:03] <Braden`> Hello
[14:03] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: is there a way to restrict it to amd64 only
[14:03] <Braden`> What version of mysql is on the development apt?
[14:04] <kroson> Hi, is there already a way to make a ubuntu 12.10 bootable usb stick in windows? thanks
[14:04] <diverdude> I have installed a modem on my ubuntu machine....The problem is its REALLY slow....It cannot be the connection since i have tested it on a mac just next to it where the speed is fine. Why is it SO slow, basically not even working on my ubuntu machine?
[14:04] <dr_willis> kroson:  the pendrivelinux web site has numerous tools to do that
[14:05] <Eagleman> drostie but those specific .pem files are not use with my TLS handshake
[14:05] <mindbender1> my sources have not mention of i386
[14:05] <Eagleman> becuase i already have my .crt and .key files
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> mindbender1  there is a way, but i'm not sure how, i guess someone else can help you better with that
[14:06] <mindbender1> MonkeyDust: ok thanks you've been of help
[14:06] <drostie> Eagleman: well, try renaming it and see if you can do TLS handshakes without it; if you can then you're right; if stuff breaks then you'll get error messages.
[14:06] <rockit> X.Org X Server 1.11.3
[14:06] <rockit> Release Date: 2011-12-16
[14:06] <rockit> Whoops Sorry
[14:07] <mindbender1> is there a way to automatically undo any holding of a package
[14:07] <Braden`> When will Ubuntu update to MySQL 5.6?
[14:07] <Eagleman> drostie i can like i said they are not specified in my config files, i only want to know why they are created and for what they are being used
[14:08] <pestilence> what did they do to empathy to make it stop working with google jabber chat?
[14:08] <gaetano_> why my 3d blender doesnt open!???
[14:08] <dr_willis> gaetano_:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages
[14:08] <pestilence> it seems like they tried to "integrate" it with the desktop, which i have no interest in doing.  the old "jabber chat" way of doing things no longer works.
[14:09] <Braden`> When will Ubuntu update to MySQL 5.6?
[14:09] <dr_willis> !info mysql
[14:09] <Eagleman> !info mysql-server
[14:09] <Braden`> ubottu:  It does.  I looked it up.  Its 5.5 though
[14:10] <Braden`> oh
[14:10] <Braden`> right
[14:10] <pestilence> Braden`: then you'll have to wait for ubuntu+1 at the very least
[14:10] <Braden`> ubuntu+1?
[14:10] <pestilence> Braden`: 13.04
[14:10] <dr_willis> The next release. or use a PPA or source Braden`
[14:10] <dr_willis> since 12.10 just came out. ;)
[14:10] <Braden`> hmm
[14:11] <Braden`> I will just download the binaries
[14:11] <pestilence> are there any good alternatives to empathy for google chat?
[14:11] <Braden`> and then adjust it so it uses Ubuntu's structure
[14:12] <mindbender1> when a package is marked as held is there no simple way of saying stop holding back this package
[14:12] <diverdude> any1?
[14:12] <diverdude> I have installed a modem on my ubuntu machine....The problem is its REALLY slow....It cannot be the connection since i have tested it on a mac just next to it where the speed is fine. Why is it SO slow, basically not even working on my ubuntu machine?
[14:13] <dr_willis> what kind of 'modem' diverdude ?
[14:13] <peto_> bfn
[14:13] <pestilence> diverdude: is it a winmodem (software modem)?
[14:13] <diverdude> dr_willis: its called: zte mf665c
[14:13] <dr_willis> diverdude:  so this is a dial up modem? a cable modem? a 3g/4g modem? .........
[14:13] <diverdude> dr_willis: it should be a 3g modem
[14:14] <pestilence> oh, haha
[14:14] <dr_willis> thats why i asked what kind. its a bit of a broad term pestilence  ;)
[14:15] <gaetano_> dr_willis: ok i found: query version failed
[14:15] <diverdude> dr_willis: do you know what could be wrong?
[14:15] <gaetano_> verify oper gl system
[14:15] <dr_willis> diverdude:  never used one ., no idea.
[14:16] <SnapSnap> If I update to 12.10 from 12.04 is full-disk encryption available to me, or is it only available through the USB/DVD installer?
[14:16] <gaetano_> what sould i do??
[14:16] <dr_willis> gaetano_:  sounds like your 3d drivers are not working properly
[14:17] <gaetano_> dr_willis: ah ok!
[14:18] <Kvaks> How do I access grub at boot time when I don't have a grub menu? It just jumps right from BIOS init to Linux booting.
[14:18] <gaetano_> thanx
[14:18] <dr_willis> Kvaks:  hold shift to make grub not 'hide'
[14:18] <dr_willis> or disable the hidden option inits settings Kvaks
[14:19] <dr_willis> !grub2
[14:19] <Kvaks> dr_willis: Thanks, I will try that.
[14:21] <jaredforsyth> Is there a way to run the "ubuntu installer" not from a CD, but from the normal OS? I want to install 12.10 to a different hard drive than the one I'm running on, so that wouldn't cause problems
[14:21] <jaredforsyth> [I'm on 12.04 right now]
[14:21] <dr_willis> jaredforsyth:  i dont think thats possible.
[14:21] <gaetano_> dr_willis: so thats why even my desktop cube doesnt work! cause the the 3d drives no working properly isn it!?
[14:22] <dr_willis> jaredforsyth:  you could perhaps use 'debootstrap' but thats a big hassle.
[14:22] <dr_willis> gaetano_:  unity effects would need 3d drivers normally. so id say yes.
[14:22] <dr_willis> of course the cube dosent work well with unity. :)
[14:22] <SpaceAviator> Anyone else have plymouth issues on an ATi card?
[14:23] <serban> yep
[14:23] <pablo81> hola alguien habla español?
[14:23] <DJones> !es | pablo81
[14:24] <pablo81> gracias
[14:24] <serban> SpaceAviator: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx it's not working...yet
[14:25] <newbie|4> Hello
[14:26] <HOYGAN> is this ubuntu 12.10 the final or release candidate?
[14:26] <pablo81> en ese canal encontrare mucha ayuda, solo estoy yo
[14:26] <pablo81> jaja
[14:26] <HOYGAN> anyone has installed ubuntu 12.10 in a machine with UEFI active?
[14:26] <gaetano_> dr_willis: so do u suggest do uninstall my 3d drivers and install them again!?
[14:26] <HOYGAN> mine hasnt got the option to dissable it
[14:27] <larseirik> hi again. My desktop-icon's are gone after upgrade to 12.10. I've read the release-notes, but it didn't seem to help. There something about nautilus, but I'm not sure how to fix it..
[14:27] <jaredforsyth> HOYGAN:  final
[14:27] <HOYGAN> thanks jaredforsyth
[14:28] <SpaceAviator> serban: I install fglrx fine using the additonal drivers. Whats not working for you?
[14:28] <bkfitz> Hoygan i did... no problems
[14:28] <HOYGAN> great bkfitz, ^^
[14:28] <HOYGAN> bb
[14:28] <KnitGal> serban, if you're using older AMD, fglrx may not work
[14:30] <xodiak> good morning, afternoon, evening everyone!
[14:31] <bjrohan> Hey there, I need help with ssh. I am trying to set up ssh so I don't need a password when running rsync. I followed a 3 step guide, but now not only does it still ask for a password, but it says my password is wrong
[14:31] <xodiak> Anyone hear of any news for MYUNITY for 12.10 yet?
[14:32] <kevwilde> hi, i see empathy lost its application menu in the 12.10.. How can i get it visible again? I'm using gnome shell and now it is not appearing anymore.
[14:33] <OerHeks> bjrohan, did you copy your public key to that host ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Transfer_Client_Key_to_Host
[14:33] <bjrohan> I believe I did OerHeks I will send a pastebin
[14:33] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  all i tend to  do is 'ssh-keygen' then 'ssh-copy-id' to the server.
[14:34] <dr_willis> not sure how that relates to rsync. :) but it lets me ssh in with no password needed
[14:34] <bjrohan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289438/
[14:34] <bjrohan> dr_willis that is what I believe I did
[14:34] <pestilence> how do I get rid of this nonsense:  "Would you like to install %S (%S), for extra features and quicker access?"
[14:34] <relondo> how long should it take to upgrade from 1 2.0 4 to 1 2.1 0?
[14:35] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  using ssh -vv remote (or -vvv) will have more verbose info on why its failing
[14:35] <pestilence> I believe it must be a part of the "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications"
[14:35] <dr_willis> pestilence:  thats the webapps feature. its disabable.. somehow.
[14:35] <KnitGal> i had to leave my laptop running overnight
[14:36] <pestilence> dr_willis: OK.  This just may be the straw that broke the camel's back with my ubuntu experiment (which has lasted ~6 years now)
[14:36] <imgx64> Clicking "Ubuntu Server" and "Cloud infrastructure" on the download page both give me a download called "ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso", is there any difference between the two isos?
[14:37] <relondo> because an unfortunate series of events resulted in me having too upgrade my laptop while on its battery
[14:37] <dr_willis> pestilence:  i recall it not beign that hard to remove.. and i like the webapps feature.
[14:38] <pestilence> dr_willis: it appears that going into "addons" in firefox and disabling "Ubuntu firefox modifications", "Unity desktop integration" and "Unity websites integration" has at least disabled that nonsense
[14:38] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/202631/how-do-i-reenable-webapps-prompts-in-12-10
[14:38] <dr_willis> shows where the check box to turn it on/off is.
[14:39] <pestilence> dr_willis: ok, thanks.  It appears that tickbox goes away when you disable the above addons :)
[14:39] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP 5.9.105.13 - it says No route to host, although other non ubuntu computers in my network can connect.
[14:40] <NaZZaX> Dr willis!!! good news
[14:40] <dr_willis> whiskers75:  can you ping the ip? what service are you connecting to? what os is on that machine?
[14:40] <NaZZaX> I found the answer to my corruption issue with apt-get
[14:40] <pestilence> dr_willis: personally I would like a clear boundary between what is "my desktop" and what is "the internet".  I assume that I am not alone in this desire. Ubuntu has made a clear move towards blurring this boundary significantly with this release.
[14:40] <NaZZaX> can we add the solution / answer to the bot?
[14:40] <whiskers75> dr_willis: HTTP and FTP, can't ping, can connect from an iPod Touch 4th
[14:40] <edi> Hi after a reboot a 2nd hard drive hasnt mounted. fdisk sya doesnt contain a valid partition table. I have ran testdisk. Any other options?
[14:41] <TheLordOfTime> NaZZaX, they don't add factoids for everything you know.
[14:41] <pestilence> i was hoping the shopping lens was the only way they had blurred things..but this "unity integration" in firefox is just as bad IMO.  and empathy won't work for google chat anymore without giving it the keys to my google account to upload photos and other such stupidity
[14:41] <whiskers75> edi: well, maybe that HDD does not have a partition table. :D
[14:41] <Kw259> ubuntu rocks!
[14:41] <remsSs> Hi everyone
[14:41] <whiskers75> Kw259: indeed
[14:42] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, do you have any actual support question, rather than complaints?
[14:42] <Kw259> im using xubuntu :P
[14:42] <bjrohan> dr_willis: Here are the results from ss -vvv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289455/
[14:42] <edi> whiskers75: it did previously :) data on it and mounted with an ext3 partition. Getting worried since testdisk hasnt helped.
[14:42] <whiskers75> dr_willis: any idea?
[14:42] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i asked my questions, nobody answered.  I'm left to do nothing but moan.
[14:43] <whiskers75> edi: try again with another computer or reboot your current one.
[14:43] <Kw259> omg i need xubuntu 12.10 :D
[14:43] <dr_willis> actually i think i did answer you pestilence  ;)
[14:43] <Kw259> i have 12.04
[14:43] <dr_willis> bbl off to shopp..
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, there is a thing called patience
[14:43] <pestilence> also, they removed "unity 2d" as a login option, and unity 3d doesn't work properly (still)
[14:43] <Kw259> i got it the day befre yesterday D:
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> !patience | pestilence
[14:43] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i asked my questions like an hour ago. i'm pretty sure they got lost in the interim.
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, continued moaning isnt fit for here, if you have to repeat your support question.  otherwise, i think complaining should be done elsewhere
[14:43] <truexfan81> what package do i have to install to make gtk apps look better in kubuntu 12.04?
[14:43] <Kw259> should i get xubuntu 12.10?
[14:43] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, you realize you're allowed to repeat?
[14:44] <joeljgarrett> I am trying to install Lubuntu 12.04 to a Dell Inspiron 8000 with 512MB RAM and 20 GB hard disk.  I am able to run Lubuntu off of the install CD, but when I attempt to do an install I get to the point where the install screen is black with lubuntu 12.04 in white letters and the little spinning thing just spins
[14:44] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: ok.  how do you remove 3d effects in 12.10?
[14:44] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, i didnt say i knew your answers, so just ask to the channel, not an individual ;P
[14:44] <pestilence> how do you use empathy for google chat using the jabber protocol?  this worked in 12.04 as well
[14:44] <joeljgarrett> The install doesn't proceed past that point.  Is there a way to debug or check logs for the install process?
[14:45] <pestilence> there used to be a "unity 2d" login option in lightdm.  no longer.  now there is just "ubuntu"
[14:45] <SpaceAviator> what is the plymouth package called in ubuntu?
[14:45] <SpaceAviator> I want to reconfigure it
[14:45] <pestilence> i happen to have gnome installed.  it still has a "2d" option.  that's what I'm logged into right now.
[14:45] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP 5.9.105.13 - it says No route to host, although my iPod can connect. I cannot ping, i am trying to access FTP and HTTP on this server.
[14:45] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i'm telling you, the silence is deafening :)
[14:46] <whiskers75> anyone?
[14:46] <whiskers75> !help
[14:47] <whiskers75> !patience
[14:47] <whiskers75> !help ping
[14:47] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: if you wouldn't mind, please try to answer my question in the room
[14:47] <whiskers75> !ping
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, you should be able to answer your question yourself.
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> unity-2d exists in Quantal
[14:47] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: as I just said, there is no "unity 2d" option in the login screen.
[14:47] <whiskers75> !plymouth
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, so install it!
[14:47] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[14:47] <whiskers75> !plymouth | SpaceAviator
[14:47] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: ok.  there's an answer!  wow.
[14:48]  * TheLordOfTime returns to the now-critical breakage of his network
[14:48] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: i upgraded from 12.04, where there was a unity 2d option in the login screen.
[14:48]  * whiskers75 needs an answer
[14:48] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, probably because you had it installed, and it got uninstalled.
[14:48] <pestilence> TheLordOfTime: according to dpkg, it is installed still.
[14:49] <elderman> joeljgarrett, have you verified the iso?
[14:49] <whiskers75> !ubottu
[14:49] <SpaceAviator> whiskers75, see above where?
[14:49] <SpaceAviator> !title
[14:49] <kostkon> pestilence, 12.10 doesn't have unity-2d. the unity-2d package is just a dummy package
[14:49] <whiskers75> !plymouth | SpaceAviator
[14:49] <TheLordOfTime> pestilence, someone'll have to help you troubleshoot, i have to troubleshoot my network before things explode.
[14:49]  * NaZZaX didnt see if anyone answered about adding the solution for network lab mis-reporting of corruption doing apt-get
[14:49] <whiskers75> SpaceAviator: that
[14:49] <elderman> joeljgarrett, not an answer to your question, but a possible source of your problem
[14:49] <kostkon> pestilence, that points to unity. http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/unity-2d
[14:49] <pestilence> kostkon: aha, thank you.
[14:49] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP 5.9.105.13 - it says No route to host, although my iPod can connect. I cannot ping, i am trying to access FTP and HTTP on this server.
[14:49] <ellorenz> Hi to all
[14:50] <altin> Hi all, I am creating a wireless network with my laptop
[14:50] <ellorenz> i'd need help about wifi on ubuntu 12.10 can anyone help me?
[14:50] <pestilence> kostkon: so, how do you do unity 2d in 12.10?  it's not allowed anymore??
[14:50] <altin> but I cant see that in my phone ?
[14:50] <altin> anyone knows why ?
[14:50] <phat> ?
[14:50] <joeljgarrett> elderman, what is the best way to verify the iso on a Windows platform, like Vista?
[14:50] <ellorenz> altin: is the problem hotspot use ad-doc net
[14:50] <whiskers75> Hello, I cannot connect to the IP 5.9.105.13 - it says No route to host, although my iPod can connect. I cannot ping, i am trying to access FTP and HTTP on this server. Traceroute does not yeild anything but a hop at my own machine.
[14:50] <auronandace> pestilence: unity2d is no longer available, unity should work
[14:50] <kostkon> pestilence, you don't, i'm afraid. unity-2d, that qt based interface, has been deprecated.
[14:51] <mneptok> joeljgarrett: md5sums are provided for each image file
[14:51] <ellorenz> smartphones want's apn wireless
[14:51] <pestilence> auronandace: haha.  i love it.  and what do you do if it doesn't work?
[14:51] <altin> I did ellorenz, I am connected via ethernet port and wanted to create a new wireless network
[14:51] <auronandace> pestilence: what exactly doesn't work?
[14:51] <whiskers75> Is Quetzal out?
[14:51] <joeljgarrett> Ok, I will google md5sum and find a tool and try re-checking the iso
[14:52] <auronandace> whiskers75: yes
[14:52] <pestilence> auronandace: for example, when I switch monitors (which I do frequently), all of the windows are gone.
[14:52]  * whiskers75 forgets what version 12.10 is
[14:52] <whiskers75> good
[14:52] <joeljgarrett> Thanks for your advice
[14:52] <ellorenz> altin: wich smartphone do u have?
[14:52]  * whiskers75 is going to update!
[14:52] <altin> ellorenz: SGS2
[14:52] <pestilence> auronandace: they reappear after you alt-tab.  but it is still annoying.
[14:52] <altin> my laptop is a thinkpad t60 (it is probably an old wireless card ??)
[14:52] <altin> ellorenz:
[14:52] <elderman> joeljgarrett, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[14:52] <auronandace> pestilence: sorry i can't help with that, i don't use multiple screens
[14:53] <ellorenz> altin: from android to other device is possible
[14:53] <joeljgarrett> eldernan, thanks for the link
[14:53] <kostkon> pestilence, on low end systems or systems without 3d graphics card driver support, 12.10 uses part of the cpu to render unity.
[14:53] <joeljgarrett> elderman, that is.  Thanks, I am an absolute beginner here
[14:54] <pestilence> kostkon: I have a low end system, yes.  but I have an nvidia graphics card that does 3d just fine.
[14:54] <ellorenz> put phone in thetering,
[14:54] <remsSs> Hi i want know if i can install sublime text without registering
[14:54] <elderman> I'm an intermediate, joeljgarrett, frequently over my head, but with adequate search-fu
[14:54] <remsSs> are there limits
[14:54] <pestilence> kostkon: it's a Geforce 210.  certainly not a gaming powerhouse, but perfectly capable of doing desktop effects.
[14:54] <ellorenz> altin: from linux is the same my problem, i can't do a hotspot with apn
[14:55] <bjrohan> dr_willis from my pastebin I can see some kind of acceptance, and then I see whre it says no such identity? What may have gone awry?
[14:55] <kostkon> pestilence, did you install the nvidia driver?
[14:55] <vak> oh, in Ubuntu 12.10 the copying over network suddenly freezes after about 100Mb copied :(
[14:55] <pestilence> kostkon: for example, i get 60fps in glxgears with unity running.  so, not mind blowingly awesome, but capable.
[14:55] <pestilence> kostkon: yes, nvidia driver is installed.
[14:56] <kostkon> pestilence, so, what problems do you have exactly?
[14:57] <pestilence> kostkon: when I switch displays, all of the windows disappear until i hit alt+tab.
[14:57] <pestilence> meaning i have to switch from my focused window
[14:57] <kona_> hey guys how can I remove unity? i prefer gnome instead
[14:57] <altin> ellorenz: hmm why is that :S
[14:57] <pestilence> kostkon: the reason i used unity 2d in 12.04 is that the 3d version had some bug that caused it to crash periodically when switching displays.
[14:57] <kostkon> pestilence, isn't that a xrandr problem?
[14:58] <pestilence> kostkon: i don't think so.  xrandr worked fine in unity 2d in 12.04.
[14:58] <pestilence> kostkon: i think something in the 3d desktop effects isn't handling the monitor switch properly.  I can see the desktop when I switch monitors, just not the open windows.
[14:58] <kostkon> pestilence, have you tried to setup your monitors in the nvidia settings
[14:58] <pestilence> kostkon: it happens even then.
[14:59] <elderman> kona_, I haven't used the main distro (Ubuntu proper) in a while, but there used to be an option to select your desktop environment on login?
[14:59] <pestilence> kostkon: (if I switch monitors using nvidia-settings)
[14:59] <pestilence> kostkon: so, it happens using xrandr.  it also happens using nvidia-settings.
[15:00] <kona_> elderman ubuntu 12.04 comes with unity and I belive u can remove the repos for it but it messes with your system
[15:00] <jrib> kona_: you can just leave it and just select gnome as your desktop choice at the login screen
[15:00] <pestilence> elderman: there is still an option to select "gnome" when you login
[15:00] <elderman> what they said, kona_
[15:00] <pestilence> assuming you have gnome installed
[15:00] <lazarus_> is there ever going to be new stock of the ubuntu keyboard (uk layout)
[15:00] <kona_> thanks jrib elderman
[15:01] <ellorenz> altin: offically ad hoc network is not sure, for really router seller don't like it, they want sell router
[15:01] <newcomer_> can anyone tell me how I can become 'owner' after installing Ubuntu12?
[15:01] <kostkon> pestilence, the next time you do a switch, you could check your logs, e.g. syslog, Xorg.0.log and if you find any error messages just paste them somewhere and give the link here
[15:01] <jrib> lazarus_: what is "the ubuntu keyboard"?
[15:01] <ellorenz> 	altin: offically ad hoc network is not secure,sorry
[15:02] <pestilence> kostkon: ok, let me try.
[15:02] <jrib> newcomer_: you want to use sudo/ perform admin tasks?
[15:02] <ellorenz> there is a method to do an apn network with ubuntu but i can't do it and i'm here to find help
[15:02] <lazarus_> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=800 jrib
[15:03] <diverdude> I have installed a modem on my ubuntu machine....The problem is its REALLY slow....It cannot be the connection since i have tested it on a mac just next to it where the speed is fine. Why is it SO slow, basically not even working on my ubuntu machine? its a zte mf665c 3g modem
[15:03] <atmark> Hello, I was wondering how to change the framebuffer color during boot process?
[15:03] <jrib> lazarus_: ah, you should contact canonical about that
[15:03] <atmark> In arch, I was able to change it via /etc/rc.d/functions
[15:03] <remsSs> Do you know Sublime Text 2.0.1 It 's great to coding
[15:03] <Matriks404> opera seems glitched on ubuntu 12.10 :D
[15:03] <truexfan81> is there somewhere i can get help with kubuntu?
[15:04] <jrib> truexfan81: #kubuntu
[15:04] <Matriks404> #kubuntu?
[15:04] <truexfan81> ty
[15:04] <ellorenz> To all: somebody can help me to do an apn hotspot  with ubuntu and an integrated intel wirless 100
[15:04] <pestilence> kostkon: here's what shows in the Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289501/
[15:04] <pestilence> kostkon: that's from switching from monitor 0 to monitor 1 and back again
[15:05] <kostkon> pestilence, any errors in syslog or messages?
[15:05] <pestilence> kostkon: nope.
[15:06] <truexfan81> #kubuntu is like a ghost town lol
[15:07] <agrester> Hello everyone hope your day is going well...
[15:07] <SuperLag> I guess no one has noticed what I noticed on the download of the ISO image.
[15:07] <kostkon> pestilence, is this a fresh installation?
[15:07] <SuperLag> What's the +mac in some of the file names for the Ubuntu downloads?
[15:07] <pestilence> kostkon: no, an upgrade from 12.04
[15:08] <kostkon> pestilence, hmm
[15:08] <elderman> #lubuntu, too, truexfan81. You can try asking your question here.
[15:08] <agrester> Have a question: Ubuntu 12.04, after rebooting my cron.hourly is not working anymore, I can execute it directly with the 'cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly' command but for some reason after rebooting it stops working and I have to manually restart it again, any suggestions on how to fix this?
[15:08] <jrib> SuperLag: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ read the description at the top
[15:08] <pestilence> kostkon: and I did mess with settings in 12.04 to try to get the 3d working.  I suppose it is possible there is something residual.
[15:09] <karlog> i have a doubt
[15:09] <SuperLag> jrib: Nice. I wonder if that still matters if it's running in a VM?
[15:09] <karlog> can anyone help
[15:09] <pestilence> kostkon: I have some vague recollection of some optional control panel that I installed to control the desktop effects.  I have no idea what it was called :-/
[15:09] <jrib> SuperLag: I don't know; probably not
[15:10] <Myrtti> karlog: difficult to know without being a clairvoyant, what is your problem? perhaps someone can help if you ask.
[15:10] <newcomer_> i need help installing java it says i am not a owner
[15:10] <karlog> will i be able to run ubuntu along side on my laptop, it already has windows 7 and windows 8 as a native boot vhd i want to have ubuntu along with it
[15:10] <jrib> newcomer_: what says that?  How are you trying to install java?
[15:10] <underweb>  /query Fuchs
[15:11] <agrester> Have a question: Ubuntu 12.04, after rebooting my cron.hourly is not working anymore, I can execute it directly with the 'cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly' command but for some reason after rebooting it stops working and I have to manually restart it again, any suggestions on how to fix this?
[15:11] <pestilence> kostkon: i think it was ccsm
[15:11] <agrester> It's so strange, now it started again...
[15:11] <kostkon> pestilence, you could try resetting unity. you may lose some customisations you have applied to it, but if you want, give it a try.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html  it's obviously a little risky, but not much
[15:11] <jrib> agrester: how are you determining it is not working?
[15:12] <pestilence> kostkon: ok, thanks, i will give that a shot.
[15:12] <overclucker> sudo wget https://www.ubuntulinux.jp/sources.list.d/precise.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-ja.list
[15:12] <overclucker> oops
[15:12] <agrester> jrib: Yes, I put a line at the end of my script to echo to a log file the time stamp, and after shutdown last night it has not worked at all until manually restarted today this morning
[15:12] <overclucker> pasted in wrong window ...
[15:12] <Myrtti> !patience | karlog
[15:13] <pestilence> kostkon: should the package "compiz" be installed in 12.10?
[15:13] <jrib> agrester: well it won't get executed when your computer is shutdown
[15:13] <agrester> jrib: it is now working after being manually restarted again but I don't understand why it didn't work again as normal every hour from boot time....
[15:13] <ThinkT510> pestilence: yes, unity uses compiz by default
[15:13] <pestilence> kostkon: I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager#Install_CompizConfig_Settings_Manager to see how I might remove the compiz settings manager
[15:13] <agrester> jrib: after startup today, it never ended up starting, thats the problem...
[15:13] <pestilence> ThinkT510: ok, thanks
[15:14] <pestilence> ThinkT510: how about the packages "compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins "
[15:14] <jrib> agrester: what's your script do?
[15:14] <agrester> jrib: it seems that cron.hourly gets messed up by shutting the computer down and restarting at a later date
[15:14] <ThinkT510> pestilence: i'd expect so
[15:14] <kevwilde> hi, i see empathy lost its application menu in the 12.10.. How can i get it visible again? I'm using gnome shell and now it is not appearing anymore.
[15:14] <kostkon> pestilence, if you want, before removeing it, run it and try resetting any changes you believe you have made in the past.
[15:15] <agrester> jrib: it's a simple backup script that rsyncs a bunch of files to a GDrive folder and uses 'grive' to upload them to my good docs...
[15:15] <agrester> it's just 4 lines
[15:15] <Matriks404> how i can remove amazon crap from dash
[15:15] <kostkon> pestilence, maybe you loaded some extra plugins, altered some values here and there
[15:15] <jrib> agrester: make it one line.  With the echo statement
[15:16] <jrib> agrester: and use full path for echo.  What is your echo line?
[15:16] <pestilence> kostkon: ok.  good idea.  but i have very little recollection about what I did :)
[15:16] <agrester> jrib: I'll paste bin one moment
[15:16] <pestilence> it appears that the only package that still exists out of that list is compiz-plugins, and it is in universe.
[15:17] <alexfpms> Hi guys, i've noticed an issue while watching videos. The sound  "glitch" sometimes -  that is, it'll replay a tiny sample over and over for about a second or so, and then continue playing. It's the same effect as if you're listening to something and your machine locks up hard, and it plays the same sound ad nauseum until you cut power. However, in my case, it clears after approximately a second.
[15:17] <MMK> Hi! How can I speed up my Ubuntu 12.10? have great CPU, good ram and WD black HDD
[15:18] <alexfpms> Any ideas what can it be ?
[15:18] <pestilence> kostkon: are you running 12.10?  could you pastebin the output of "dconf dump /org/compiz/" for me?
[15:18] <kostkon> pestilence, i think ccsm comes with a reset to defaults button :P
[15:19] <kostkon> pestilence, not at the moment
[15:19] <agrester> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289532/
[15:20] <jrib> agrester: ok so if any of those commands fail, you won't get the echo to execute.  Don't use the "&& \" before the echo line
[15:20] <pestilence> kostkon: you are right.  i pressed that button and logged out and in.
[15:20] <jrib> agrester: also, what are the permissions on this file and is there a reason you are running this as root?
[15:20] <pestilence> kostkon: problem fixed!
[15:20] <pestilence> thanks!
[15:20] <kostkon> pestilence, nice!
[15:21] <pestilence> yea!  i really like the shortcuts to make windows take up half the screen, and those don't work in 2d.  so this is great.
[15:21] <agrester> jrib: running it root because I store the script in my /opt/ folder and because I it grabs data from another drive on the system outside my home folder, I then symlinked the script to the /etc/cron.hourly folder
[15:21] <agrester> jrib: permissions are 0755
[15:22] <MMK> Hi! How can I speed up my Ubuntu 12.10? have great CPU, good ram and WD black HDD
[15:22] <ryao> MMK: Use ZFS
[15:22] <jrib> agrester: ok.  Remove the "&& \" before echo as I said before and change "date" to "/bin/date" just to be safe.  I never remember what the default PATH is in crontabs...
[15:23] <MMK> ryao ty
[15:23] <zykotick9> MMK: using zfs isn't a great idea...
[15:23] <ryao> MMK: https://github.com/dajhorn/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[15:23] <agrester> jrib: could the '\' character be messing it up?
[15:24] <_Ash_> I have problems after install nvidia driver, broken resolution and Unity&Compiz can't start with ERROR: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"
[15:24] <MMK> @zykotick9 why not?
[15:24] <_Ash_> in ubuntu 12.10
[15:24] <kostkon> pestilence, nice. now about your empathy problem. did you check the new online accs utility. Does it list google as enabled on the left and does it list empathy in the right pane as enabled for google/gtalk?
[15:24] <gordonjcp> okay, here's a weird one
[15:24] <zykotick9> MMK: it's a non-gnu/linux native filesystem.  it's kinda like using NTFS...
[15:24] <jrib> agrester: no, but your current script only executes the echo line if everything before it was successful
[15:24] <gordonjcp> programs that segfault aren't generating core dumps - even though ulimit -c is set to unlimited
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> MMK  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289542/
[15:24] <pestilence> kostkon: no, I don't know what "online accs utility" means
[15:25] <agrester> jrib: And with rsync it won't run if there is no file change yes?
[15:25] <kostkon> pestilence, you'll find it in your system preferences ;)
[15:25] <alexfpms> _Ash_, You see desktop and icons but no unity ?
[15:25] <pestilence> kostkon: I have gchat set up as a jabber account, which worked fine in 12.04.  that's what shows up in "Online Accounts"
[15:25] <jrib> agrester: well it will run, but it shouldn't try to copy anything if the files haven't changed.  By the way, in "/home/user/GDrive/grive", should "grive" be "gdrive"?
[15:25] <_Ash_> yes, desktop working
[15:25] <naruto> hy
[15:26] <agrester> jrib: no it's grive that commandline tool
[15:26] <jrib> agrester: ok
[15:26] <alexfpms> _Ash_, so install sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[15:26] <Guest34429> hy
[15:26] <Rodrigo> hello, my pc is a acer aspire 5738zg (laptop) 2.1 ghz intel t4300, ge force g105m 512mb and a 500 gb hd
[15:26] <alexfpms> _Ash_, then re-install graphic drivers
[15:26] <Rodrigo> i have a problem in every linux distro, it is allways slow
[15:26] <jrib> agrester: I'll be back later
[15:26] <_Ash_> alexfpms, thx
[15:26] <agrester> jrib: should I be running each command in it's own script and reporting the status?
[15:26] <Rodrigo> i am not sure why is that, my windows 7 runs fine, and ubuntu runs laggy
[15:27] <alexfpms> _Ash_, try before say thx
[15:27] <jrib> agrester: you don't have to do that
[15:27] <Guest34429> can you use videocall on linux
[15:27] <carlisle_> Rodrigo: have you installed the appropriate graphics drivers for your video card?
[15:27] <pestilence> kostkon: when I open up empathy, it shows the spinning wheel for a while and then it says "(my email)@gmail.com account requires authorisation"  with "Change your presence to see contacts here" below it
[15:27] <Rodrigo> yes of course carlisle_
[15:27] <carlisle_> what brand video card are you using?
[15:27] <Rodrigo> it happens with EVERY distro i try
[15:27] <Calinou> Rodrigo: you mean, in games? might want to use proprietary driver, if you want to trade freedom for performance
[15:28] <Rodrigo> Ge Force G105M
[15:28] <lazarus_> Guest34429: do you mean like skype
[15:28] <Calinou> Rodrigo: "every" distro? there are 140 active distros out there
[15:28] <MMK> MonkeyDust "sed: can't read /etc/default/prelink: No such file or directory"
[15:28] <Rodrigo> Calinou: i use proprietary, the dekstop is slow
[15:28] <kostkon> pestilence, yes, i think you need to give it permission to access your google account in the online accounts app
[15:28] <carlisle_> the open source nvidia drivers aren't that bad from what i understand, you might want to try the propietary ones
[15:28] <Rodrigo> every distro i mean, arch linux, ubuntu, linux mint, debian a bit
[15:28] <Guest34429> yeah
[15:28] <Calinou> Rodrigo: that isn't a very fast graphics card too, but it should run unity fine... strange
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> MMK  did you install prelink?
[15:28] <Calinou> carlisle_: +1, they run quite well, except on kepler/fermi, blame nvidia
[15:28] <Rodrigo> yes, and windows 7 runs fast
[15:28] <kostkon> pestilence, does Google appear as an option in the left pane in your online accounts?
[15:28]  * Calinou has a fermi GPU :<
[15:28] <alexfpms> _Ash_, make sure to completely remove graphic driver and then re-install it
[15:28] <Rodrigo> i am not sure why this happens...
[15:28] <pestilence> kostkon: here's where my problem lies.  I see no reason that I should allow ubuntu to access my google account outside of empathy, which is what it evidently wants me to do
[15:29] <alexfpms> _Ash_, nvidia or Ati ?
[15:29] <Rodrigo> i did a little google search and more ppl posted the problem, but no one replied
[15:29] <Rodrigo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/174320/12-04-running-slow-on-acer-aspire-5738zg
[15:29] <javaJake> pestilence: take a look at Pidgin as an alternative
[15:29] <MMK> Monkeydust not yet. just upgraded ubuntu from 11.10
[15:29] <kostkon> pestilence, no you can specify which apps you want, see this shot for example http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ykifT6g3nBk/UH715PqTtjI/AAAAAAAAK6E/y4JOIOUXQAo/s1600/ubuntu12.10-online-accounts.png
[15:29] <Rodrigo> only differente is that it's a different graphics card, some acer aspire's 5738zg came with ATI and others like mine with NVIDDIA
[15:29] <lazarus_> Guest34429: look in software centre
[15:30] <pestilence> javaJake: ah, ok.  sounds like the best plan.  don't know why they had to go and break empathy.
[15:30] <pestilence> kostkon: but why does it need to do that at all?  why can't it just work as a jabber client?
[15:30] <javaJake> pestilence: they didn't "break" it; it works fine. But I can understand your mistrust of software.
[15:30] <Rodrigo> Calinou: i'd say it's a proprietary driver problem for linux, because the other one works fine
[15:30] <Rodrigo> the other one,, i mean on windows 7*
[15:30] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in 12.10
[15:30] <Calinou> Rodrigo: explain slow? slow when playing games? when using the computer in general (eg. CLI applications), or is it about the desktop?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> MMK  all right, install preload and prelink, then execute the command -- i picked up those tips here on the #ubuntu channel, from a guy who is more skilled than i am
[15:31] <Calinou> Rodrigo: sometimes the NVIDIA driver doesn't like unity
[15:31] <kostkon> pestilence, it will work, if you allow it to access you google account credential
[15:31] <Rodrigo> slow in general
[15:31] <pestilence> javaJake: well, with my setup, they did.  empathy worked fine yesterday in 12.04 and it doesn't work today.
[15:31] <kostkon> pestilence, if you only see jabber listed in your online accs, try adding a new account and select Google
[15:31] <javaJake> pestilence: sounds like all they did is change empathy to use an oauth-esque authentication so they don't store your passwrod.
[15:31] <yogeshthegenius> hi
[15:32] <ArubaDods_> Hi all
[15:32] <Rodrigo> Calinou: slow opening apps, it's laggy
[15:32] <Rodrigo> i don't know how to explain better, sorry
[15:32] <pestilence> javaJake: ah, ok.  what about those using 2-factor authentication?  does it have to cache your credentials someplace?
[15:33] <javaJake> pestilence: it's equivalent in security to 2-factor auth
[15:33] <javaJake> but it's not the same
[15:33] <elderman> Hello, I am having trouble configuring my touchpad in Lubuntu 12.10.  There are no configuration options as far as I can tell.  The problem's similar to bug 527890, except that the touchpad's recognised correctly and has most functions.  I want to get rid of tap to click.  This is the first time I've had trouble with my touchpad on an Ubuntu variant.
[15:33] <never_ever> why won't broadcom wireless work on 12.10?
[15:33] <Calinou> Rodrigo: apps can open quite slowly, but once they're closed, if you reopen them they will quickly be reopened because they're cached in RAM
[15:34] <Rodrigo> i know, but moving stuff is slow, even browsing the web
[15:34] <designbybeck> Uh oh... I had linuxMint Cinnamon installed... I wanted to try to dualboot with 12.10... install finished just fine, restarted and it goes straight to LinuxMint everytime. No Grub
[15:34] <pestilence> javaJake: what I mean is, if you have 2-factor authentication enabled for your google account, how is that handled?  with the jabber client, you just made a "application-specific" password that would be stored by empathy, but that no longer functions.
[15:34] <Rodrigo> this happens in 12.04 12.10, i don't remember 11.10 being slow, i can be wrong thought
[15:34] <carlisle_> designbybeck: have you configured grub?
[15:34] <riqdiiz> How do i get ubuntu to play my mp3 files
[15:34] <delinquentme> hey all ... is there a graphical tool which shows me the files and what takes up size on my hard drive?  Something to assist me in downsizing  / creating more room on my system :P?
[15:35] <carlisle_> riqdiiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[15:35] <Rodrigo> any ideas Calinou?
[15:35] <elderman> delinquentme, try baobab
[15:35] <designbybeck> .
[15:36] <riqdiiz> Im tired of sitting without sound<(
[15:36] <javaJake> pestilence: it means that your app-specific password is no longer used, but you will need to type your time-specific PIN.
[15:36] <kostkon> riqdiiz, you have no sound in 12.10?
[15:37] <pestilence> javaJake: *sigh*, I guess I will try it :)
[15:37] <MMK> @Monkeydust I'm not good in code but this seems to be mostly for internet?
[15:37] <javaJake> pestilence: Google will give GNOME the information it needs to login in the future, but that info is easy for you to invalidate from your Google account later.
[15:37] <designbybeck> Uh oh... I had linuxMint Cinnamon installed... I wanted to try to dualboot with 12.10... install finished just fine, restarted and it goes straight to LinuxMint everytime. No Grub
[15:37] <pestilence> javaJake: you must mean Unity?
[15:37] <carlisle_> designbybeck: did you see me ask if you configured grub?
[15:37] <javaJake> pestilence: yes :)
[15:37] <designbybeck> I can see the 2nd partition in linuxmint, but I can't boot into 12.10
[15:37] <designbybeck> no sorry the other irc program crapped on me how to login again CarlFK
[15:37] <designbybeck> carlisle_:
[15:38] <carlisle_> ah ok
[15:38] <designbybeck> it was a clean install, hadn't touched anything besides restart
[15:38] <kroson> hello, has anyone been able to run ubuntu with fglrx driver?
[15:38] <pestilence> javaJake: here's my issue.  I don't really want "Unity" to be able to access my google account.  So I guess pidgin it is!
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> MMK  swappiness is for swapping, preload to load apps more rapidly, prelink too, the ipv4 things are for internet
[15:38] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in 12.10
[15:38] <kroson> hello, has anyone been able to run ubuntu with fglrx driver??
[15:38] <javaJake> pestilence: yep
[15:38] <Calinou> kroson: no, that is impossible! :D
[15:38] <delinquentme> elderman, you are a stellar human being. TYVMs.
[15:38] <MMK> MonkeyDust okay ty, will reboot now and see if everything is okay :)
[15:38] <designbybeck> carlisle_:  is there a way for me to update grub and not break it from withing linuxmint so that it fixes for 12.10?
[15:39] <kroson> Calinou: you tested it?
[15:39] <a1fa> my lock screen no longer works on ubuntu 12.10 /gnome/
[15:39] <Rodrigo> Calinou: i tryed everything i found, i reinstalled a dozen times etc
[15:39] <Calinou> no
[15:39] <pestilence> javaJake: I used pidgin for years anyways, so I'm good with that.  I had just gotten used to using empathy.
[15:39] <javaJake> pestilence: if it helps, you can turn on and off specific Google features (Contacts, Chat, Calendar) once you've added the account.
[15:39] <Rodrigo> Calinou: the only thing that could be wrong is installing from USB using unetbootin, i doubt it thought
[15:39] <elderman> delinquentme, you're welcome! :)
[15:39] <a1fa> anyone with lock screen issues in GNOME3 /ubuntu 12.10/? works on all other laptops, except this one pc
[15:39] <carlisle_> designbybeck: i'm trying to find you a good guide hang on
[15:40] <pestilence> javaJake: I'd rather just not have such tight integration with the desktop.  Call me paranoid, call me old.  But I guarantee you I'm not alone :)
[15:40] <Guest30873> hi, has anyone else had the following error on trying to install ubuntu 12.10 - installer crashed, could not install on a read-only file system?
[15:40] <a1fa> i removed and reinstalled gnome-screensaver
[15:40] <a1fa> and power management
[15:40] <designbybeck> thanks carlisle_  i'm looking as well
[15:40] <javaJake> pestilence: you are not :)
[15:40] <blackshirt> designbybeck, updatekgrub
[15:40] <Ashael> hi guys, got a little problem with 12.10 - when running the software updater, i get an error msg: "Failed to download repository information". I tried updating apt-get, changing mirrors - at some point the updater somehow worked, but i still get the error.
[15:40] <javaJake> pestilence: and, to be honest, it's not useful yet anyway
[15:40] <designbybeck> blackshirt: would that break my linuxmint booting ?
[15:40] <wols> kroson: state your actual problem instead of asking useless "anyone has..." questions which waste people's time
[15:41] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1052751 <-- this bug is not fixed
[15:41] <kroson> wols: i think you can understand my problem from context, it doesn't work
[15:41] <blackshirt> designbybeck, i don't think so ....
[15:41] <carlisle_> it's update-grub
[15:41] <designbybeck> should that be updategrub blackshirt
[15:41] <pestilence> javaJake: I mean...I don't even trust Firefox to store my credentials for google (hence 2-factor authentication)...what makes you think I'd want my fricken windows manager to store it!
[15:41] <carlisle_> and it SHOULD detect multiple OSes
[15:41] <wols> !doesn't work
[15:41] <carlisle_> but it may not
[15:41] <lazarus_>  designbybeck run sudo update-grub
[15:42] <wols> kroson: your description is utterly useless. come back when you learned to how state a problem. e.g. start with googling "how to get help on irc"
[15:42] <designbybeck> i did lazarus_  and thank you carlisle_  I'm going to restart and see if it worked
[15:42] <BluesKaj> odd, i had to use , sudo do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade my laptop from 12.04 to 12.10 Official release , are the servers that far behind ?
[15:42] <designbybeck> lazarus_:  carlisle_  it did see 12.10 as well as linuxmint
[15:42] <wols> kroson: since you probably need a hint: that first hit from workaround.org is very helpful for you
[15:42] <carlisle_> designbybeck: wooo
[15:42] <designbybeck> so let me see if it boots into those
[15:42] <carlisle_> oh
[15:43] <carlisle_> before you do
[15:43] <blackshirt> blueskaj, thats good for server
[15:43] <carlisle_> run sudo grub-install
[15:43] <elderman> too late, carlisle_
[15:43] <carlisle_> sudo grub-install /dev/sda or whatever your first boot device is
[15:43] <carlisle_> heh
[15:43] <javaJake> kroson: with any graphical problem, posting your Xorg.log.0 and Xorg.log.1 files into a pastebin service is going to be very helpful.
[15:43] <Rodrigo> Calinou: is it possible to downgradae to another version?
[15:44] <javaJake> kroson: "doesn't work" means hundreds of things to us
[15:44] <Ashael> got a little problem with 12.10 - when running the software updater, i get an error msg: "Failed to download repository information". I tried updating apt-get, changing mirrors - at some point the updater somehow worked, but i still get the error.
[15:44] <Ashael> ideas?
[15:44] <jrib> agrester: back
[15:44] <BluesKaj> blackshirt, not it isn't , it's been almost 24 hrs , that's the slowest i've seen it
[15:44] <agrester> ok
[15:44] <kona_> is cinnamon any gd on ubuntu?
[15:44] <MMK> Monkeydust back online :) but doesen't seem to be faster... Ubuntu Software Maneger still takes 5 sec to load
[15:44] <wols> Rodrigo: downgrades are unsupported with apt, dpkg and .deb. it might be possible to do it manually, but again: unsupported
[15:45] <Ashael> kona: it's great, i use it
[15:45] <ThothCastel> I am installing the driver for my ubuntu inspiron 1525 laptop following these instructions ...   I have NO internet connection
[15:45] <kostkon> Ashael, try selecting the main ubuntu server, at least temporarily, until the mirror that is close to you sorts itself out
[15:45] <ThothCastel> http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=5842.0
[15:45] <blackshirt> ashael, usually,that was specific repository sources.what is it?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> MMK  it accellarates in time, preload seed which apps you use more often -- in a terminal, type apt-cache show preload
[15:45] <ThothCastel> and I got the following error on the FOURTH command of the instructions :
[15:45] <Ashael> i got it for several different repositories, including the main server.
[15:45] <ThothCastel> Cannot open input file --unsupported
[15:45] <Rodrigo> brb, need to reboot to try another driver
[15:46] <yahusha> trying to figure something out of file properties
[15:46] <ThothCastel> why is that happenning?
[15:46] <kostkon> Ashael, and did you give sudo apt-get update afterwards everytime
[15:46] <Ashael> kostkon: yes.
[15:46] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in  ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[15:46] <agrester> jrib: so the thing is that how do I ensure that my script will start?
[15:46] <kostkon> Ashael, hmmm
[15:46] <MMK> MonkeyDust got 3
[15:47] <yahusha> what does it mean when under a file properties it says owner 1000 group 1000 and there is no such user on the comp
[15:47] <agrester> jrib: I should remove the '&& \'
[15:47] <kostkon> Ashael, maybe the error is for a 3rd party repo or ppa?
[15:47] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: paste the full command giving you the error
[15:47] <FlyingElvis> im having a slight problem...im trying to install msttcorefonts. kubuntu says they are installed, but that little confirmation window did not come up during the install process...how do i get these installed
[15:47] <carlisle_> (from your terminal)
[15:47] <blackshirt> yahusha, you should learn some basic linux file permission
[15:47] <ThothCastel> sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o
[15:47] <ThothCastel> carlisle_
[15:47] <lazarus_> kostkon: would sudo apt-get install - f help Ashael at all
[15:47] <jrib> agrester: you should remove the last one, yeah.  That way the echo should execute even if the commands before failed.  So you should be able to determine that cron IS executing your script
[15:47] <kostkon> lazarus_, don't think so
[15:47] <ThothCastel> all the 3 commands above that one worked fine
[15:47] <Ashael> kostkon: that is possible, although i think i got it before i re-enabled them. i'll check
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> MMK  did you type apt-cache show preload ?
[15:48] <lazarus_> sounds like broken sources list
[15:48] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: the error indicates that it's trying to open a file named '--unsupported' i would check to make sure it has support for that particular flag
[15:48] <agrester> jrib: ok, I added a line before that says "the job started" and one at the end "the job stopped"
[15:48] <MMK> MonkeyDust just apt-cache
[15:48] <carlisle_> though it is confusing it even thinks that a command prefaced with '--' is a file
[15:48] <jrib> agrester: ok
[15:48] <carlisle_> err, file
[15:48] <agrester> jrib: so that no matter what something is always echoed to log
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> MMK  no, type the complete command i just gave
[15:48] <yahusha> i understand that user is the owner of the file so why would it say user 1000 though there is no such user
[15:48] <kostkon> Ashael, if you want, try again and paste the whole generated output from apt-get update at pastebin and give the link here.
[15:49] <kroson> wols: since you seem to dictate the rules here, like telling me what i have to say and how, just for your information, i didn't offend you, or offtopic at all, or went against the rules. So i don't give a s*** about what you think i should do or not. I certainly know more than you what means helping someone else in a IRC channel, so i am not really looking for your advice on that.
[15:49] <Ashael> kostkon: will do
[15:49] <ThothCastel> carlisle_:   right, appreciate your help, but being new to Linux I am not sure of what to do from here
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> MMK  *apt-cache show preload*  (without the asterisks)
[15:49] <MMK> MonkeyDust did. can u write me an email or I post info here?
[15:50] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: i am not familiar with this particular firmware, but what i mean by 'flag' are the options prefaced with either one or two hyphens
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> MMK  it's for you, so you know what it does :)
[15:50] <a1fa> lightdm is a disaster
[15:50] <carlisle_> usually you can find usage information by invoking the command with -h
[15:50] <ArubaDods_> is there a way to get to a network file using ?
[15:50] <Calinou> a1fa: gdm is a disaster -- FTFY
[15:50] <blackshirt> yahusha, i don't know what you mean
[15:50] <carlisle_> in this case it would be sudo b43-fwcutter -h
[15:50] <MMK> "Note that installing preload will not make your system boot faster  and that preload is a daemon that runs with root priviledges."
[15:50] <a1fa> at least lock works in GDM
[15:50] <ArubaDods_> is there a way to get to a network file using krusader?
[15:50] <carlisle_> and see if --unsupported is listed there
[15:50] <ThothCastel> carlisle_: ok, thank you...
[15:50] <a1fa> i cant lock my PC with lightdm
[15:50] <ase> I have a ATI Radeon Mobility 3650 video card, and Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't recognize it. Any way to enable my video card?
[15:50] <a1fa> i have to shutdown
[15:50] <javaJake> kroson: we can't help you if you don't give us the information we're asking for
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> MMK  it's for loading your apps more rapidly
[15:51] <a1fa>     JS ERROR: !!!   Exception was: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
[15:51] <a1fa> supoosadly the bug wa sfixed
[15:51] <a1fa> but its not fixed
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> MMK  if you want to boot faster, consider disabling some services
[15:52] <ThothCastel> help please!
[15:52] <ArubaDods_> is there a way to get to a network file using krusader?
[15:52] <ThothCastel> lol
[15:52] <a1fa> i am on the lates 12.10, all patches upto date
[15:52] <MMK> MonekeyDust okay. do u know any app that would make my Firefox use less ram? after some days uf use, it uses 3GB RAM... and the rest of the system 1GB. I want to use the power I get from i7 920 CPU :)
[15:52] <a1fa> everything working except the damn suspend and lock
[15:52] <Ashael> kostkon: i disabled ppas I've added and changed back to the main server, and i no longer get the message. guess it was the additional ppas. thanks!
[15:52] <a1fa> switch to gdm
[15:52] <lazarus_> i like the 2 step login features in ubuntu 12.10
[15:52] <a1fa> it works fine
[15:53] <kostkon> Ashael, no prob
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> MMK  no, i use chromium, not FF
[15:53] <ArubaDods_> Hi all, is there a way to get to a network file using krusader?
[15:53] <MMK> MonkeyDust chromium did the same
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !boot > MMK maybe this is usefull
[15:53] <a1fa> and there is no way to configure lightdm
[15:53] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: it depends on the network protocol you're trying to access, do you know the protocol?
[15:54] <ThothCastel> on the fourth command of these instructions,   does it mean I should replace the '--unsupported' with something else?
[15:54] <ThothCastel> http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=5842.0]
[15:54] <wkhan113> Hi, I am trying to connect to wireless, using wicd. It says connection failed: bad password
[15:54] <MMK> MonkeyDust bash: !boot: event not found
[15:54] <wkhan113> Can someone help
[15:54] <agrester> jrib: thanks for the help, i'll be back if anything else should arise
[15:54] <blackshirt> a1fa, you can change it
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !boot | MMK
[15:55] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, nope, I have install ubuntu server on a old laptop for sharing files
[15:55] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, that's all I know
[15:55] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: what happened when you ran 'sudo b43-fwcutter -h'
[15:55] <carlisle_> instead of -h it might also be --help, or -? if -h didn't work
[15:55] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, I also install samba
[15:55] <carlisle_> ok so it's an smb share probably
[15:56] <kroson> javaJake: i didn't say i wouldn't give you that information, but when you are looking for support, you don't expect to find such morons  treating you like you were a totally retarded n00b, like i probably didn't know what IRC was at all. So the stupid, unhelpful behaviour was his, if instead of me it had been an user coming from windows and not being able to make his graphics card work, with this kind of "support" he called it, would ru
[15:56] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: if you know the path of the file, you can browse to smb://192.168.0.1/path/to/file
[15:56] <blackshirt> samba was for sharing files between your linux and windows :d
[15:56] <carlisle_> replace 192.168.0.1 with the appropriate IP
[15:56] <a1fa> i'd like the problem fixed
[15:56] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, Ok thanks a lot, carlisle_ !
[15:56] <ThothCastel> carlisle_: it shows me the following options:  -l      -i    -w    -v    -h
[15:57] <ThothCastel> short for  --list
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --identify
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --target-dir DIR
[15:57] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: i would say to try without the '--unsupported' flag
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --version
[15:57] <ThothCastel> --help
[15:57] <FloodBot1> ThothCastel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <ThothCastel> FloodBot: sure, sorry
[15:58] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: try without '--unsupported'
[15:59] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, it works! a million thanks
[15:59] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: happy to help! :)
[16:00] <ThothCastel> carlisle_:  it throuws me a different error:    Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5Sum asdfrsdajsaklclas2as156d4as5dsa123
[16:00] <Asham> saludos a todos
[16:00] <lazarus_> i like the 2 step login features in ubuntu 12.10 any help
[16:01] <lazarus_> woops
[16:01] <lazarus_> lol
[16:01] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, is ssh also a protocol, that's what I use at first to configure my server
[16:01] <blackshirt> lazarus_ what you mean with 2 step?
[16:01] <lazarus_> how do i add video call support to empathy in  ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[16:01] <wols> kroson: the little fact that ubottu has a nice !doesn't work  factoid and a !details factoid should very much clue you in that behaviour like yours is happening about 100 times per day in here by, you guessed it, total noobs without a clue. and by your behaviour you have proven a) you are a noob  b) you don't want a solution to your problem but rant. and every time you continue this ranting proves it more
[16:01] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: you can't use ssh for file transfers, ssh is for getting a shell on a remote computer
[16:01] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: there are other protocols like nfs and afp
[16:01] <carlisle_> but smb is most commonly used
[16:02] <blackshirt> arubadods_, use scp to secure copy
[16:02] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: im not sure what to tell you here because this seems like a specific issue with that utility
[16:02] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: did you give me the full output of -h before FloodBot1 mentioned using paste.ubuntu.com
[16:03] <ThothCastel> carlisle_: I understand, thanks anyway, I am just trying to use Ubuntu as my main OS on my laptop inspiron 1525 but it doesn't come with the wireless driver   which it will probably be an issue as I need internet to work
[16:03] <lazarus_> blackshirt: ubuntu 12.10 allow filesystem encryption so u have to enter a password to boot os then one to login
[16:03] <ArubaDods_> carlisle_, ok thanks. I just tried it and give me en error protocol. : ))
[16:03] <carlisle_> ThothCastel: yeah broadcom is a huge pain in the ass on linux
[16:03] <carlisle_> ArubaDods_: :)
[16:05] <ArubaDods_> blackshirt, Thanks blackshirt
[16:05] <a1fa> hmm
[16:05] <a1fa> so caveman
[16:06] <a1fa> reinstalled gnome-shell and lightdm, and lock option still not working
[16:07] <caddoo> I've got a Apache Solr .jar to run on the server
[16:07] <bobop> ubuntu remote desktop, how do you set it up?
[16:07] <caddoo> how can I make sure this is always running
[16:08] <blackshirt> lazarus_ thats not specific 12.10 ... Ecryptfs was stand  long a go with linux kernel
[16:08] <a1fa>     JS ERROR: !!!   Exception was: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
[16:08] <a1fa>     JS ERROR: !!!     message = '"Cannot invoke method; proxy is for a well-known name without an owner and proxy was constructed with the G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag"'
[16:08] <a1fa> thats the error when i click on the "LOCK"
[16:08] <carlisle_> bobop: you have a couple of options, vnc or x11 forwarding
[16:08] <carlisle_> on linux remote system management is most easily accomplished with ssh
[16:08] <Heniut> gi
[16:08] <Heniut> *hi
[16:09] <bobop> well I am trying to set it up on a laptop which means it will not have a static ip
[16:09] <tingtong> is it possible that 12.10 is installed without it coming near my MBR ?
[16:09] <carlisle_> bobop: you can configure your laptop with a dynamic dns provider
[16:09] <carlisle_> dyndns is pretty popular and you can get a free domain to use
[16:10] <lazarus_> blackshirt: yes but its the 1st time options have shown in ubuntu setup along with LVM partion setup (without using manual partitioning)
[16:10] <ubuntufan> Hi
[16:10] <carlisle_> tingtong: you should be able to install it without grub/lilo and that should do the trick, but let me confirm
[16:11] <carlisle_> tingtong: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132116/installing-ubuntu-12-04-without-installing-grub
[16:11] <tingtong> carlisle_: I heard that grub 2 causes problems if it is installed to a PBR
[16:11] <carlisle_> PBR?
[16:11] <tingtong> carlisle_: thansk
[16:12] <tingtong> PARTITION BOOT RECORD
[16:12] <carlisle_> ah i know that one by volume boot record
[16:12] <kostkon> a1fa, unrelated errors possibly. but is it supposed to work? i saw the comments on the bug report, and it seems that it still doesn't work for some people.
[16:12] <carlisle_> afaik grub can only be installed to the MBR
[16:13] <carif> does anyone know if there's a way to "single step" through upstart jobs when booting or shutting down? I want to debug a service. thanks
[16:13] <carlisle_> but i am not 100% about that
[16:13] <HOYGAN> Hi
[16:13] <blackshirt> carif, more detail please ...
[16:13] <tingtong> er ALternate discs have been killed! http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/canonical-drops-alternate-cds-from-ubuntu-12.10-120831062000.html
[16:13] <HOYGAN> guys, can one put the unity bar down on 12.10? without plugins?
[16:13] <blackshirt> carif, what you mean with single step
[16:14] <carlisle_> tingtong: oh that's right i forgot about that :(
[16:14] <carlisle_> tingtong: i am not sure how to install 12.10 without grub then, I'm sorry :(
[16:15] <rocky_> ok... so i just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and now my laptop keyboard is dead (i'm using an external keyboard right now which works fine)
[16:15] <mangozy> HOYGAN such a choice is made by groups , and individual requests cannot be fullfilled
[16:15] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, last but least questions, is there a way to get to a network file throught the file system e.g. going to /etc/samba/bla bla bla?
[16:15] <carif> blackshirt, I mean have some way of viewing the steps in the various <type> script/end script blocks
[16:15] <carif> blackshirt, say using bashdb
[16:15] <HOYGAN> ok mangozy, and the colour of unity?
[16:15] <HOYGAN> can it be changed?
[16:15] <carif> blackshirt, but even logging would do
[16:16] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: you mean like setup a directory that when you navigate into it it shows you the contents of the remote filesystem?
[16:16] <krofna> When I switch from proprietary drives to X.Org open source drivers, it hangs on Applying changes (for past hour)... Need help, proprietary drivers break the boot...
[16:16] <Asham> HOYGAN,  hablas español?
[16:16] <ThothCastel> well, It seems that I will have to choose a different Operating System then ubuntu as my wireless internet connection is not working
[16:16] <bobop> dyndns cut the free offering off new register's
[16:16] <carlisle_> booo
[16:16] <carlisle_> there's some other ones out there i think
[16:16] <HOYGAN> si Asham
[16:16] <EuroNerd> Is there an easy way to install 12.10 without unwanted apps?  (Removing after full installation doesn't count :-P )
[16:16] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, yes something like that
[16:16] <Asham> HOYGAN, veo que tienes problemas con los plugins
[16:16] <carlisle_> EuroNerd: the network installer should allow you to pick and choose what you want to install
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:17] <HOYGAN> Asham: ven aqui #ubuntu-es
[16:17] <blackshirt> carif, youe mean some tool with support to upstart job editing?
[16:17] <EuroNerd> carlisle_, can I run that from the CD or USB?  Since I don't have another laptop to network with the target one.
[16:18] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, sorry I just love to know more about ubuntu linux as posible. I sometimes prefere doing this search than playing my ps3 black ops
[16:18] <carif> blackshirt, i don't think so, I'm thinking of something that will show me each command as its executed
[16:18] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: you'll need to update your /etc/fstab file, i'm looking for some good info
[16:18] <carif> blackshirt, i've started here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[16:18] <carlisle_> EuroNerd: it can run from either/or
[16:18] <EuroNerd> carlisle_, thanks.
[16:18] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys How to configure sudo user environment variable please guide me guys..
[16:19] <dhanasekaran> I tried /etc/environement and /etc/sudoers file not work please guide me
[16:19] <ubuntufan> EuroNerd.
[16:19] <rocky_> hrm... actually it isn't just my keyboard ... neither my laptop keyboard or touchpad are working when in ubuntu (but work fine in the windows dual-boot)
[16:20] <dhanasekaran> How to configure JAVA_HOME for sudo users
[16:20] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, oh...ok. I will search it online for editing the fstab for a network share
[16:20] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: this guide is designed for windows shares, but it has the gist of it. You'll want to replace 'servername' with your IP address
[16:20] <carlisle_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[16:20] <Guest94859> Is there really no alternate ISO for 12.10?
[16:20] <carlisle_> the 'cifs' option is correct, think of it as a synonym for smb
[16:20] <carlisle_> Guest94859: yeah i heard about that a few weeks ago forgot until now
[16:20] <carif> blackshirt, i guess increasing the log-priority might be a good step
[16:21] <bazhang> !alternate | Guest94859
[16:21] <a1fa> so dissapointed with this new update
[16:21] <jrib> Guest94859: why do you want the alternate iso?
[16:21] <jiffe98> for some reason there seems to be something very wishy washy about networking, given a number of reboots of a couple virtual machines I have sometimes networking will come up sometimes it won't
[16:21] <jiffe98> no reason, everything looks like, eths are up but it just doesn't work
[16:21] <wols> Guest94859: use a netinst ISO or a server ISO http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[16:22] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, oh...ok. I am going to do that
[16:22] <javaJake> bazhang: bummer :(
[16:22] <blackshirt> carif, i think you can configure it through syslog daemon
[16:22] <carlisle_> ArubaDods: :)
[16:22] <Guest94859> wols: Does the netinst provide all the options the alternate iso did?
[16:22] <ArubaDods> carlisle_, thanks alot
[16:22] <carlisle_> np!
[16:22] <wols> Guest94859: since I never ever used an "alternate" iso, I dunno. which options do you need?
[16:23] <blackshirt> or auditd framework
[16:23] <FliPPeh> Anyone else having problems connecting to Windows Live with the new accounts?
[16:23] <yugnoswam> how do i install flash player? (im new to linux)
[16:23] <mamed> how can i close lighgdm jimmy voice
[16:23] <FliPPeh> I thought they'd have fixed this by now
[16:23] <FliPPeh> But it will not connect, at all
[16:23] <FliPPeh> "no reason given"
[16:23] <Guest94859> wols: Needing manual partition encryption, 12.10 Live ISO can do encrypted auto-partitioning but not manual
[16:23] <toast__> Hey everyone.  I just upgraded from PP to QQ, but am experiencing desktop/unity issues.  From my reading, it's looking like my ati 46xx video isn't/may not be supported?  is that accurate?
[16:23] <bazhang> FliPPeh, what accounts
[16:23] <mamed> how can i close lighgdm jimmy voice
[16:23] <FliPPeh> 12.10 online accounts
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> Guest94859, This site gives a layout where the support has been moved. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/ubuntu-alternate-cds-could-be-dropped.html
[16:24] <yugnoswam> how do i install flash player from a yum file?
[16:24] <bazhang> yugnoswam, you dont
[16:24] <jrib> !flash | yugnoswam
[16:24] <riqdiiz> Hello anybody  know where i can get ffmpeg codecs  for ubuntu 9.04?
[16:24] <a1fa> who wrote light dm?
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> yugnoswam, If you are running a yum distro you are on the wrong channel.
[16:24] <jrib> !9.04 | riqdiiz
[16:24] <FliPPeh> Google doesn't work with the new accounts either
[16:24] <FliPPeh> Keeps dropping
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> a1fa  guess you can find developper info in launchpad
[16:24] <Guest94859> wilee-nilee: Thanks, sounds like the netinst should be okay
[16:24] <mamed> hello
[16:24] <FliPPeh> The only solution is pidgin, which will connect in a split second
[16:24] <Lafiir> After updating to 12.10 my Sound-system broke. It's only crackling when trying to play something, the Master-volume gets repeatedly reset to 100% and the entries in Device-list in Sound-settings are resetting/flickering? rapidly. Any ideas what went wrong?
[16:25] <FliPPeh> Why did they push a broken account system?
[16:25] <mamed> how can i close ubuntu gdm voice jimmy talks
[16:25] <yugnoswam> wilee-nilee: im just runing ubuntu. the top download on flash was yum for linux. i dunno which i want
[16:25] <bazhang> mamed, what is jimmy talks
[16:25] <deadmund> FliPPeh: in the name of progress!!!
[16:25] <riqdiiz> so no more life support for it?
[16:25] <FliPPeh> deadmund: I guess
[16:25] <jrib> riqdiiz: for a long time now, yes
[16:25] <bazhang> !behelpful | deadmund
[16:25] <MujiTo> CiAo Ci SoNo AnCh'IoOoOoOoOoOo!!
[16:25] <mamed> bazhang: i did some changes and when i restart my machine and type my pass someone says it . it is i think text to speech
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> yugnoswam, YOU can install the restricted-extras and get flash other codecs ans some ms fonts.
[16:26] <fooblargh> After upgrading successfully to 12.10, aptitude now wants to install several foreign-architecture (:i386) packages for no apparent reason. Asking with "aptitude why" shows foo:i386 providing foo, and foo being (correctly) required. However, the native foo (amd64) is already installed.
[16:26] <deadmund> :P
[16:26] <fooblargh> I'm *not* seeing the same behavior with apt-get
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> and*
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> fooblargh:  did you install ia32-libs?
[16:26] <bazhang> !aptitude | fooblargh
[16:26] <TheLordOfTime> fooblargh:  if you installed ia32-libs or equivalent, its pulling the 32bit libraries.
[16:26] <fooblargh> TheLordOfTime: Nope
[16:26] <Assid> hey is there a way to get rid of the unity bar
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | Assid
[16:27] <fooblargh> ubottu: Ah! Ok, I didn't know that was the case! Thank you
[16:27] <fooblargh> Oh... *blush*
[16:27] <javaJake> :)
[16:27] <Assid> also hows the support for ati radeon cards?
[16:27] <deadmund> Assid: It's pretty good.
[16:27] <toast__> assid: I'm running an ati radeon, and having massive issues with Unity
[16:27] <rocky> hrm... actually it isn't just my keyboard ... neither my laptop keyboard or touchpad are working when in ubuntu (but work fine in the windows dual-boot) ... doesn't work in the console either so it's not an X problem... any ideas?
[16:27] <deadmund> Assid: they 'work' but don't get the performance they would on windows
[16:28] <Assid> hmm.. considering im mostly watching tv / youtube.. i really dont wana have " tearing " issues
[16:28] <deadmund> I'm running an ATI Radeon 9550 (from a long time ago) and an HD 5600
[16:28] <jrib> fooblargh: in theory aptitude in 12.10 should be fixed.  At least according to the changelog excerpt posted in that bug's comments
[16:28] <a1fa> bye bye lightdm
[16:28] <deadmund> Assid: You'll probably get tearing on full screen flash but that is because flash sucks more than because the driver sucks
[16:28] <a1fa> the new gnome gdm is much better anyway
[16:29] <ardchoille> I just switched a friend to Ubuntu. She would like to find an app that, upon right click on the desktop, a ring of icons pops up from which she can select from user-configurable apps. Does such a thing exist?
[16:29] <deadmund> ardchoille: appwall
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> a1fa  nice to share your opinion with us
[16:29] <gaben> Was Ubuntu 11.10 worth the weight?
[16:29] <deadmund> ardchoille: It's a square, not a ring, and you can set any button to set it
[16:29] <a1fa> you are welcome
[16:29] <deadmund> gaben: maybe one 1 ago
[16:30] <a1fa> at least my pc locks now
[16:30] <deadmund> 1 year* ago
[16:30] <gaben> thatsthejoke.jpg
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> gaben  not here please
[16:30] <ThothCastel> can I use my android phone and use it as an access point in order to install the wireless card driver on ubuntu?
 Maybe not quite what you're after, but look at gnome-pie
[16:30] <Assid> hmm i guess will play with what i have instead :P
[16:31] <ardchoille> deadmund: is that for Linux? I see search results for mobile phone apps
[16:31] <ThothCastel> cI mean, if I connect wired to the ubuntu, can I use its internet?
[16:31] <ThothCastel> how?
[16:31] <deadmund> ardchoille: I am very sure.  I use it on debian.  lemme look for the package name
[16:31] <javaJake> gaben: lol, that was funny :)
[16:32] <ThothCastel> hahahaha!!!!  it is working!!!
[16:32] <ThothCastel> ;)
[16:33] <jiffe98> this might be a vmware problem too
[16:33] <cygnuskk_> can someone help me boot into grub?
[16:33] <Wuchichichu> Hi all, I would like to install ubuntu on my dos system
[16:33] <blackshirt> cygnuskk_, whats your grub problem?
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> !install | Wuchichichu start here
[16:34] <cygnuskk_> when i boot i used to get the grub menu, i don't anymore
[16:34] <Lafiir> Since updating to 12.10 the usual Ubuntu-logo while booting is gone and I see nothing until the Loginscreen gets loaded. What broke?
[16:34] <Wuchichichu> MonkeyDust: thanks
[16:34] <javaJake> Wuchichichu: you should try to rephrase it so it's a question. For example: "I've got an old Dell that doesn't have a CD drive. How should I install Ubuntu?"
[16:34] <blackshirt> cygnuskk__ you can press shift key when boot
[16:35] <Wuchichichu> javaJake: i dont have a dell
[16:35] <Wuchichichu> its a acer
[16:35] <javaJake> Wuchichichu: just an example :)
[16:35] <Wuchichichu> oh
[16:35] <deadmund> ardchoille: I'm having trouble finding it too.  Hang on... I will find it.
[16:35] <cygnuskk_> blackshirt: at which stage?
[16:35] <awolf> Hi, problem: I have two folders in /home, one is my original folder that I renamed when someone suggested this for fixing something, The other is the right name and functions with default settings
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> Wuchichichu  i have acer too, works like a charm
[16:35] <ardchoille> deadmund: ok, and thank you very much for your efforts
[16:35] <javaJake> Wuchichichu: good luck :)
[16:35] <awolf> I need to know how to set my permissions correctly for the original folder to then rename and work again
[16:36] <awolf> or to set the permissions normally for the working folder and for accessing the old content to move back
[16:36] <carlisle_> awolf: have you changed anything other than renaming the original directory?
[16:36] <designbybeck> woah! Hold the Phone...the Additional Drives looks much different I
[16:36] <carlisle_> did you change permissions on the home directory you moved or make changes to it?
[16:36] <designbybeck> which do I pick for my NVIDIA... I don't see ..."recommend"
[16:36] <awolf> I think permissions got changed when I tried to get things working again, but I only changed permissions for those main directories
[16:36] <awolf> not for any other files or internal stuff
[16:36] <kostkon> designbybeck, it now resides in software sources, last tab on the right :P
[16:36] <designbybeck> kostkon:  I finally found it, just don't know which one to pick ;)
[16:37] <designbybeck> kostkon: pretty nice intergration!
[16:37] <awolf> btw, how do I address a comment to someone here?
[16:37] <kostkon> designbybeck, yes, i guess
[16:37] <carlisle_> awolf: just prefacing your message with their name and a 'colon' is usually enough
[16:38] <awolf> carlisle: thanks
[16:38] <brosto> having trouble getting the nvidia driver to be recognized on my laptop after installing 12.10
[16:38] <ssedano> Hi, where does ubuntu stores the bridges and vlan data (in centos is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts)
[16:38] <carlisle_> awolf: do you remember the exact files and directories you changed permissions on?
[16:38] <awolf> carlisle: did that work?
[16:38] <brosto> nvidia 460M
[16:38] <carlisle_> awolf: yep :)
[16:38] <carlisle_> oh i see what you mean
[16:38] <awolf> carlisle: I know that I only changed the main directory
[16:38] <jetjanoli> hello world
[16:38] <fooblargh> jrib: Hmm, doesn't seem like it to me :/  I'll read through the bug careful and see if it's referring to the same thing I'm seeing
[16:38] <carlisle_> awolf: can you show me the command you used to change the permissions?
[16:39] <maw> hi, after I upgraded to the latest distro using the GUI, latex broke, ALSA started play crackling sounds, emacs broke and the AMD/ATI Catalyst stuff broke. I have no idea where I should begin fixing this. Any ideas?
[16:39] <jetjanoli> :-D
[16:39] <kostkon> designbybeck, choose the "recommended" driver btw :P
[16:39] <ssedano> I mean, at /etc/network/interfaces
[16:39] <designbybeck> it didn't say it until I clicked on it kostkon
[16:39] <Wuchichichu> im a bit bored of windows world, i found it difficult, i would like to have a ubuntu since its a user friendly linux, but i dont have a usb key
[16:39] <ssedano> but I'd like to write bridges by saving files
[16:39] <designbybeck> but it installed
[16:39] <ase> I have a ATI Radeon Mobility 3650 video card, and Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't recognize it. Any way to enable my video card?
[16:39] <MarioMey2> Hello, everbody. I have a strange problem. One of my HDD partition has Ubuntu 12.04 (boot fail) with no home dir (home is in another partition). Now, I'm in another partiton, Ubuntu 12.04 fresh install. From here, using Gparted, I see that Ubuntu (boot fail) has 197GB used. But Baobab tells me that there are only 9GB used... what is more credible. Why this difference? I analized with Gparted and e2fsck, but they return no errors...
[16:39] <ubuntuuser8888> Is it possible to get plain Xfce in Ubuntu? Not Xubuntu, just plain upstream Xfce.
[16:39] <designbybeck> and didn't tell me i had to even restart i guess kostkon
[16:39] <awolf> carlisle: unfortunately, I tried several things at different times, at one point changing owner, but I KNOW that the owner is back to correct
[16:39] <designbybeck> but i suppose i should
[16:39] <kostkon> designbybeck, hmmm
[16:39] <L3mce> Wuchichichu: do you have a blank DVD?
[16:39] <awolf> carlisle: last thing I used was chmod 0700
[16:39] <carlisle_> awolf: but you didn't run something like chown -r ?
[16:39] <brosto> anyone else having similar issues?  I tried reinstalling, but no luck.  The opensource driver works (kinda), but it's a bit buggy
[16:39] <carlisle_> or chmod -r
[16:39] <Wuchichichu> L3mce: how you know that..
[16:40] <javaJake> carlisle_: chmod -R
[16:40] <carlisle_> that's the one
[16:40] <javaJake> carlisle_: iirc, -r only works on cp
[16:40] <awolf> carlisle: yes, I ran chown -R to make it back to me as user
[16:40] <carlisle_> yeah i can't remember which utilities have their recursive flag capitalized or not, everybody does it different :(
[16:40] <vicky_> my internet is not working in ubuntu 12.10 just installed..help?
[16:40] <carlisle_> awolf: oooh, so there's an issue
[16:41] <carlisle_> if you have other users in that directory besides your own it would have changed their permissions too
[16:41] <awolf> carlisle: I am the ONLY user
[16:41] <carlisle_> additionally there are some programs that may automatically create files with different users
[16:41] <awolf> carlisle: this is just my personal laptop
[16:41] <carlisle_> by users i mean owner
[16:41] <rickb> hello. I am trying to setup a pptp vpn so i can connect to my home network when i am away.. does anyone know if the localip and remote ip have to be on the same subnet as my lan or is this just some sort of passthrough to my lan?
[16:41] <L3mce> ase: I am sure it recognizes it, however it appears that quantal uses 12-6+ CCC version of fglrx, so you will not be able to use a prorprietary driver, as they have dropped support for all HD2xxx -4xxx cards
[16:41] <javaJake> vicky_: if you specify the wireless or ethernet card you are trying to use to get online, someone here might know what to do.
[16:42] <awolf> carlisle: you mean different groups like audio and such?
[16:42] <vicky_> carlisle_: my internet is not working in ubuntu 12.10 just installed..help?
[16:42] <ase> L3mce, does that mean I have to use the free/open source driver for ATI?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> rickb  there's also ##networking, conider asking there
[16:42] <L3mce> correct ase.
[16:42] <carlisle_> awolf: there are system users that might have files and directories owned by them
[16:42] <carlisle_> some programs have their own 'user' that the program is run under
[16:42] <carlisle_> vicky_: 'not working' is a little vague, can you elaborate
[16:43] <vicky_> carlisle_:  not able to connect
[16:43] <yeats> rickb: the localip needs to be on your subnet - the remote ip needs to be on the remote network's subnet
[16:43] <vicky_> carlisle_:  not identifying
[16:44] <carlisle_> vicky_: i am not going to be the most capable to help you with this particular problem, maybe somebody else can jump in here?
[16:44] <L3mce> vicky_: when you say not identifying... what do you mean?
[16:45] <javaJake> vicky_: can you tell us what wireless or ethernet card you are using? Or perhaps what model your computer is?
[16:45] <jrib> fooblargh: you are on 12.10?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> vicky_  better start from the beginning, what were you doing and when/where did things go wrong
[16:45] <vicky_> L3mce: my internet is not working in ubuntu 12.10 just installed..help? wifi not working
[16:45] <awolf> carlisle: ok, I'll give up on trying to just get it all back normally. But one more question:
[16:45] <carlisle_> awolf: sorry, im a bit stretched thin here with my attention span
[16:45] <vicky_> javaJake:  dell vostro 1510
[16:45] <bazhang> !details | vicky_
[16:45] <L3mce> vicky_: what is the output of lspci -nn | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless)'
[16:45] <carlisle_> what i would recommend doing is to copy the files and things you need out of your old home directory into your new one instead of just moving it in place like it is
[16:46] <bazhang> vicky_, whats the card chipset
[16:46] <awolf> carlisle: how do I set a new default folder so that I know it at least has the right permissions to start fresh?
[16:46] <awolf> carlisle: by folder I mean home directory
[16:46] <Razzeeyy> Hi all :)
[16:46] <carlisle_> awolf: you have a new /home directory after you moved the old one out of the way right?
[16:46] <rocky> hrm... anyone know of a good gmail notifier (for the gnome notification system) ?  gm-notify (used to work in 12.04) doesn't appear to work in 12.10
[16:46] <fooblargh> jrib: Correct
[16:46] <javaJake> vicky_: is your wireless turned off? Do you know how the Fn+wireless key works?
[16:46] <vicky_> just ubuntu installed but wifi not detected?
[16:46] <awolf> carlisle: yes, but I was playing with it trying to get it right
[16:46] <vicky_> yes it is on
[16:47] <awolf> carlisle: I should probably delete it and start fresh again
[16:47] <fooblargh> jrib: And the behavior I'm seeing doesn't seem exactly like in the bug report from what I've read so far... here aptitude wants to *install* some new :i386 packages
[16:47] <vicky_> bluetooth working but wifi not working
[16:47] <carlisle_> awolf: one sec let me give you some permissions to use
[16:47] <L3mce> vicky_: we get it... your wifi is not connected... please give the output I asked for
[16:48] <fooblargh> jrib: The reason seeming to be that  foo  is (rightly) depended on, with aptitude reasoning that "hey, foo:i386 provides foo, let's get that". It seems to ignore the fact that the amd64 version of foo is already present.
[16:48] <carlisle_> awolf: 755 should be enough, if you want to be paranoid you can change your user's directory to 751
[16:48] <fooblargh> note: I currently have *no* installed i386 packages
[16:48] <awolf> carlisle: ok, and the new directory, I can/should use chmod -R or just chmod?
[16:48] <carlisle_> awolf: what i would recommend is trying to move the old home directory in place
[16:48] <carlisle_> it's worth a shot
[16:48] <carlisle_> awolf: 755 is just for chmod without '-R'
[16:48] <vicky_> L3mce: no output
[16:49] <carlisle_> in general you should never use '-R' unless you know exacty what you're doing
[16:49] <rickb> sudo sysctl -p
[16:49] <carlisle_> it's really easy to screw permissions up and incredibly difficult to get them back
[16:50] <javaJake> L3mce: you can discover the hardware this user is working by looking up their laptop model on the internet: http://www.martinhenze.de/2008/05/24/ubuntu-linux-on-dell-vostro-1510/
[16:50] <awolf> carlisle: Trouble is, my old directory was giving me permissions errors trying to get into it, so I think there are internal permissions issues, unless just moving it back will fix that...
[16:50] <L3mce> vicky_: please pastebin the output of lspci
[16:50] <L3mce> !pastebin | vicky_
[16:50] <awolf> carlisle: btw, should it be 0755 or just 755?
[16:50] <rocky> how come empathy is no longer in the notification menu on 12.10 ?
[16:51] <L3mce> javaJake: the same models often use different addon cards. Linux knows what it can see... that is safer.
[16:51] <carlisle_> awolf: the '0' is implied with just '755'
[16:51] <alien2050> Is there a way to start a specfic program (example: gimp and blender) on two separate horizontal desktop and have them stick this way?
[16:51] <alien2050> on unity 5
[16:51] <javaJake> L3mce: true, true
[16:51] <carlisle_> awolf: can you show me the output of: ls -ld /old_home
[16:51] <deadmund> ardchoille: Arrgh, I can't find it
[16:51] <carlisle_> where old_home is your old home directory
[16:52] <deadmund> ardchoille: I'm not on the machine that has it installed.
[16:52] <ardchoille> deadmund: ok
[16:52] <deadmund> ardchoille: sorry!
[16:52] <cainus> hey all... can anyone tell me how to reset a usb mouse that feezes occasionally
[16:52] <awolf> carlisle: I have to get back to the system by rebooting first
[16:52] <cainus> ?
[16:52] <carlisle_> awolf: oh i see
[16:52] <ardchoille> deadmund: I suspect that it's a mobile app and not a Linux app, from the search hits I'm seeing
[16:52] <vicky_> L3mce: output of lspci,.....00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Contr
[16:52] <carlisle_> awolf: i think the safest approach to this problem is to copy what you need out of that old home directory
[16:53] <awolf> carlisle: but I tried that earlier, and I remember it looking like more d r w type letters than just a simple 4
[16:53] <Razzeeyy> People, excuse me but I have no idea how to even google that. I have the following problem: sound "sticks" to the one exact terminal (first logged). So what is this? What I should look at?
[16:53] <carlisle_> any chance you ran chmod 777 ?
[16:53] <awolf> carlisle: the directory itself is drwx------4
[16:53] <deadmund> ardchoille: I'm guessing there is an app of the same name (simple name).  But I am VERY SURE that there is a debian package the does almost exactly what you asked for.  I have used it for years on my debian PC.
[16:53] <carlisle_> awolf: aha!
[16:53] <carlisle_> awolf: chmod 755 /directory
[16:54] <carlisle_> that's currently 700
[16:54] <ardchoille> deadmund: ok, I'll continue searching. Thank you for everything :)
[16:54] <deadmund> yeah
[16:54] <carlisle_> there's very few situations where you'll want 700
[16:54] <akSeya> ubuntu 12.10 is missing some of my favorite features :( window are not resizing when moving it to an edge
[16:54] <deadmund> ardchoille: also: gnome-pie
[16:55] <awolf> carlisle: thanks, before I go, what is the process to make a new fresh directory? Just mv to make the old directory a new name and the mkdir for a new fresh one and do the 755 on it, and the stuff internally will get set automatically?
[16:55] <ardchoille> deadmund: installed and trying out gnome-pie now but it's horribly buggy here
[16:56] <deadmund> haha
[16:56] <deadmund> ok
[16:56] <carlisle_> awolf: mv /new_home /home.unique.filename && mv /old_home /home
[16:56] <akSeya> on some windows, buttons are on the right now, they were all on the left before...
[16:56] <vicky_> L3mce: ?
[16:57] <kostkon> akSeya, which applications?
[16:57] <kostkon> akSeya, did you upgrade?
[16:57] <akSeya> kostkon, yeap, from 12.04 to 12.10
[16:57] <vicky_> just ubuntu installed but wifi not detected?
[16:57] <dhanasekaran> I tried /etc/environement and /etc/sudoers file not work please guide me
[16:57] <yeats> !clone
[16:57] <dhanasekaran> How to configure JAVA_HOME for sudo users
[16:58] <rocky> hrm, where did the "additional drivers" or whatever option go in the settings on ubutnu 12.10 ?
[16:58] <vicky_> kostkon: just ubuntu installed but wifi not detected?
[16:58] <awolf> carlisle: ok, I'll see, thanks so much!!
[16:58] <akSeya> kostkon, pidgin, VirtualBox
[16:58] <carlisle_> awolf: np good luck!
[16:58] <akSeya> libreoffice
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> rocky, OPen the updatew manager then settings last tab on right.
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> update*
[16:59] <kostkon> akSeya, i'll assume that you have used ccsm in the past, you mentioned a non default feature; try pressing the reset to defaults button(s) in ccsm.
[16:59] <bazhang> vicky_, please dont repeat. you never gave us the output of lspci
[16:59] <bazhang> !pastebin | vicky_
[17:00] <akSeya> kostkon, ccsm is not installed.. going to install it
[17:00] <LigH> Greetings.
[17:00] <FliPPeh> Alright, this is weird
[17:00] <FliPPeh> I made a new test account on Windows live and THAT one connects
[17:00] <FliPPeh> Just not my real account
[17:01] <FliPPeh> Is this some obscure bug that only affects pre-2013 accounts
[17:01] <FliPPeh> ?
[17:01] <LigH> Trying to install grub-customizer by danielrichter2007; his site recommends installing the ppa via 'deb' (and 'deb-src'); but I get the error "Command 'deb' not found". Which package may I have to install prior to this?
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> !enter > FliPPeh
[17:01] <kostkon> akSeya, or right, you don't need to install it. i misunderstood. it's a default feature
[17:02] <bazhang> !addppa | LigH
[17:02] <rocky> wilee-nilee, hm ok... so what's the best way to install the latest proprietary nvidia drivers now?
[17:02] <kostkon> akSeya, you could try resetting unity then. also, did you reboot after doing the upgrade?
[17:02] <FliPPeh> Kinky.
[17:02] <LigH> OK - so Daniel Richter shall update his page. Thanks bazhang.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> rocky, Not sure here I have never had to but the channel can help. ;)
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> rocky, I have saved commands but users that know this for sure are a better source.
[17:04] <rocky> thanks
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> FliPPeh, Please respect that the channel is busy and not a chat channel but support
[17:05] <FliPPeh> I know, I'm kind of seeking support here. But it seems I'm one in a million who's affected by this bug.
[17:05] <LigH> bazhang: apt-get update; install ... works. Thanks, bye. :)
[17:05] <reuf> i have both openjdk and sun jdk on my ubuntu, but when i type java -version, i get openjdk version, how do i switch to sun-java?
[17:05] <Rikimaru> Helllo #ubuntu!
[17:05] <Rikimaru> I have a quick question regarding apt-get
[17:05] <Rikimaru> Graphviz : Depends: libcdt4 but it is not going to be installed
[17:06] <Rikimaru> WHat does that mean exactly?
[17:06] <Rikimaru> Should I install libcdt4 separetly?
[17:06] <Razzeeyy> anyone can help? :3
[17:06] <Razzeeyy> >>I have the following problem: sound "sticks" to the one exact terminal (first logged). So what is this? What I should look at?
[17:06] <vicky_> bazhang: output of lspci... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289790/plain/
[17:06] <Rikimaru> Or does that mean its all fine?
[17:08] <bazhang> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)   <--- vicky_
[17:08] <bazhang> !broadcom | vicky_ have a read
[17:08] <faLUCE> hi, is there a good inventory management system with barcode support for linux?
[17:08] <kostkon> vicky_, open dash, search for "sources", then click the Software Sources application to open it, the select the last tab and see if it offers you a driver for your wifi card, it will say somwthing along the line of: Broadcom Wireless or similar
[17:08] <|adrian|> hello, I have just installed Ubuntu version 7.04 and I'm trying to update my software with the Update Manager and I keep getting this error: "Could not download all repository indexes" My internet connection is working, anyone have any clues why I get this error?
[17:09] <deadmund> |adrian|: yeah
[17:09] <bazhang> |adrian|, that is way end of life
[17:09] <deadmund> |adrian|: That's from 2007
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> |adrian|, 7.04 is long past end of life.
[17:09] <|adrian|> yeah its sevreal years old
[17:09] <bazhang> |adrian|, get a more recent and supported on
[17:09] <|adrian|> so Im screwed?
[17:09] <bazhang> |adrian|, www.ubuntu.com and get a supported one
[17:10] <deadmund> |adrian|: with that version
[17:10] <kostkon> vicky_, also, give us the output of the command:  iwconfig
[17:10] <|adrian|> do I only need to download a new update manager program or the whole operating system?
[17:10] <TheLordOfTime> |adrian|:  the entire OS
[17:10] <bazhang> |adrian|, whole new iso
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> |adrian|:  which going to www.ubuntu.com and hitting the download link would do.
[17:11] <|adrian|> will it fit on a cd?
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> DVD maybe
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> not sure about CD
[17:11] <|adrian|> ok
[17:11] <kostkon> |adrian|, download 12.04 or 12.10 and do a clean install. you cant' update from 7.04
[17:11] <bazhang> |adrian|, the newest does not
[17:11] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang:  does 12.04 fit on CD?  (I use LiveUSB, so i dont know :P)
[17:11] <lukanov> Hi everybody! How can i search for files or something?
[17:11] <kostkon> TheLordOfTime, yes
[17:11] <yahusha> http://pastebin.com/RCkrPzzZ
[17:12] <bazhang> TheLordOfTime, it does, if memory servers. 12.10 is 800mb though
[17:12] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang:  since i use 2GB USB drives, it doesn't affect me much ;P
[17:12] <|adrian|> I have another question too, how do I compile a program with gcc? the file I want to compile is: "test.cpp"
[17:12] <bazhang> |adrian|, install build-essential
[17:12] <kingfisher64> can someone tell me if updating from ubuntu 11.10 64 bit to ubuntu 12.10 32 bit will cause problems. I've just updated and it appears to be fine. Could there be potential problems under the surface?
[17:13] <JmCourir> hey guys, how are you here :)
[17:13] <vicky_> kostkon:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289850/
[17:13] <JmCourir> nice to see that there is a lot of ppl in this community
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> yahusha, Peppermint is not supported here,
[17:13] <pingcasts> kingfisher64: I don't know but you're upgrading from a non lts to a non lts so I would be skeptical
[17:13] <kostkon> kingfisher64, ??
[17:13] <kingfisher64> i know it's an odd question
[17:13] <ThothCastel> I think I managed to install the driver  for my wiereless  on my laptop
[17:14] <ThothCastel> however,
[17:14] <ThothCastel> I can't seem to connect using wireless...
[17:14] <amcram> thohi
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> kingfisher64, Not a advised upgrade.
[17:14] <fooblargh> For the logs: I seem to have fixed my problem by doing dpkg --remove-architecture i386
[17:14] <ThothCastel> if I see 'Enable Wireless' on the top right corner,    does it mean I installed successfully the driver?
[17:15] <kingfisher64> i have an older machine given to me (pentium 4) upgraded memory and hd significantly and want to run latest ubuntu then put virtualbox and freenas on it - to use it as a NAS kostkon, pingcasts, wilee-nilee
[17:15] <deadmund> ThothCastel: it means there is some driver working with the card.  Doesn't mean the driver works 100%
[17:15] <bazhang> ThothCastel, does ifconfig show wlan0 or similar
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> kingfisher64, I would be backed up no matter what anyway, as far as your other goals I have no idea.
[17:16] <ThothCastel> deadmund: how do I connect to my wireless hotspot? I created the connection and now??
[17:16] <kingfisher64> I wanted to do a remove of 11.10 and a brand new installation of 12.10 but couldnt' see how to do this by loading the .iso cd
[17:16] <of1> anyone installed snort latest on 12.4?
[17:16] <kingfisher64> it wasn't an option as far as I could see
[17:16] <deadmund> ThothCastel: Not sure what you mean by "hotspot" do you have a wifi driver?  Is it listed in the drop down menu?
[17:16] <bazhang> of1, from where
[17:16] <ThothCastel> deadmund: yes, I installed the broadcom
[17:17] <akSeya> kostkon, any idea then?
[17:17] <ThothCastel> hotspot I mean my access point via wireless
[17:17] <ThothCastel> deadmund:
[17:17] <deadmund> ThothCastel: If you see the network listed in the dropdown, connect to it
[17:17] <of1> bazhang, snort source(tar.gz)
[17:17] <vicky_>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289850/
[17:17] <bazhang> of1, whats the real question
[17:17] <kingfisher64> ok, advice taken. I'll remove wilee-nilee, what would be the easiest way of fully deleting installation and just starting a fresh with 12.10
[17:17] <JmCourir> You guys know if we can run 6 monitors with two different ATI video cards ? One is ATI 5750 and the other one is 7850. I am currently in Windows and it works very good :::)
[17:18] <kostkon> akSeya, as i said, if i remember right, you could try resetting unity.
[17:18] <L3mce> vicky_: read and follow the directions in the link bazhang called ubottu on you with.
[17:18] <kostkon> akSeya, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:18] <bazhang> !broadcom | vicky_ here it is once more, please read and follow
[17:19] <of1> bazhang, I installed snort latest from source . But the alert file is always empty. Just need help to fix this problem.
[17:19] <sdollins> If you change the resolution/refresh rate, will it stay the same even after reboots/changing monitors?
[17:19] <BeBoo> Hello everyone. Just recently upgraded from 10.10 to 12.04.1 and ever since, the network is extremely slow (4k/sec downloading, ~1 sec pings). Any ideas what I can check? No GUI, just CLI.
[17:19] <kostkon> akSeya, but if you have just upgraded, a reboot wouldn't harm
[17:23] <LambdaDusk> Ubuntu 14.04 will be named Torturous Tortoise which will turn out to be a very fitting name
[17:23] <akSeya> brb
[17:24] <bazhang> LambdaDusk, lets get on topic please
[17:25] <kingfisher64> anybody? how do I remove installation of ubuntu from boot cd? Want to do a "format" of existing ubuntu and start again.
[17:26] <kingfisher64> i'm used to format option being present within a cd boot setup
[17:26] <bazhang> kingfisher64, from the live cd?
[17:26] <kingfisher64> yep
[17:26] <bazhang> kingfisher64, dual boot or no
[17:26] <kingfisher64> no
[17:26] <kingfisher64> just ubuntu 12.10
[17:26] <xangua> kingfisher64: or just install over
[17:26] <deadmund> kingfisher64: it should give you the option to 'replace ubuntu'
[17:26] <bazhang> kingfisher64, then just choose to overwrite it all
[17:27] <bazhang> ie dont save home, or other installs
[17:27] <kingfisher64> right. I made the mistake of installing wrong verion initially (11.10 64 bit) so updated to 12.10 32bit. Been suggested this "update" wasn't recommended so just want to start again.
[17:28] <TheLordOfTime> kingfisher64:  that's correct.  you would need to overwrite i think.
[17:28] <kingfisher64> ok, will do. thanks. Just wanted some advice from people who know more than me. Super.
[17:28] <Radaan> anyone know if 12.10 fixes the network issues for hp touchsmart tx2s?
[17:28] <plague> Hi! Anyone could please provide link to turorial how to set up Apache2 virtual hosts under Ubuntu? Thanks in advance.
[17:28] <bazhang> Radaan, what card
[17:30] <Ali_Bahjati> hey
[17:30] <Ali_Bahjati> any bodies there ?
[17:30] <Radaan> Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
[17:30] <yahusha> http://pastebin.com/RCkrPzzZ
[17:30] <bazhang> yahusha, that cinnamon?
[17:31] <bazhang> Radaan, broadcom is well supported
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> peppermint it is a OS
[17:31] <BeBoo> Just recently upgraded from 10.10 to 12.04.1 and ever since, the network is extremely slow (4k/sec downloading, ~1 sec pings). Any ideas that I can check? No GUI, just CLI.
[17:31] <wols> BeBoo: did you directly upgrade from one to the other?
[17:31] <bazhang> !alis | yahusha  search for their channel, it's not supported here
[17:32] <yahusha> bazhang peppermint
[17:32] <|adrian|> is it wrong to type: "gcc -c test.c -o test" to compile the file test.c into the program test?
[17:32] <bazhang> yahusha, see above
[17:32] <BeBoo> wols: from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 (.10?) 12.04 I believe (ran do-release-upgrade three times)
[17:33] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all. When I try to run chkconfig I get a warning /sbin/insserv doesnt exist. Of course if I ln -s the insserv binary it works, but why isn't this autmoatic? Why doesn't chkconfig work out of the box?
[17:33] <|adrian|> stdio.h doesnt seem to be valid
[17:33] <wols> BeBoo: just checking. do you use LAN or WLAN?
[17:33] <BeBoo> wols: LAN
[17:33] <|adrian|> what header file should I use then for std output/input ?
[17:34] <wols> |adrian|: "valid"?
[17:34] <Pici> TheRedOctober: Ubuntu does not use chkconfig at all.
[17:34] <wols> BeBoo: and you only get 4kilobytes/s inside your LAN?
[17:34] <|adrian|> error: stdio.h: No such file or directory, Im probably doing something wrong
[17:34] <wols> !build-essential
[17:34] <Pici> !upstart | TheRedOctober
[17:35] <wols> |adrian|: you need to install it basically
[17:35] <|adrian|> how do I compile the file test.c into the program test in gcc?
[17:35] <trism> |adrian|: gcc -o test test.c; if you use -c you will compile an object file that needs to be linked later
[17:35] <|adrian|> I dont even have gcc?
[17:35] <wols> |adrian|: install build-essential
[17:35] <BeBoo> wols: correct. NS Lookups take a long time, pings near 1 sec. Didn't have this prior to upgrade.
[17:35] <wols> BeBoo: what NIC?
[17:36] <BeBoo> wols: Broadcom
[17:36] <kriston> Got this when trying to burn Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit from Windows Disc Image Burner: "The disc image file is too large and will not fit on the recordable disc."
[17:37] <BeBoo> kriston: need a DVD
[17:37] <kostkon> kriston, yeap, it doesnt fit on a cd, it's 800mb
[17:37] <derp_> indeed
[17:37] <wols> ick. I would check for different kernels. maybe even use an old kernel for trying it out. should be only a kernel issue
[17:37] <wols> BeBoo: also check if you need any kind of firmware for your NIC
[17:37] <plague> Anyone who could please help me with setting up virtual hosts for Apache2?
[17:37] <kriston> Aww, man, it's only like a few kilobytes too big.
[17:37] <BeBoo> wols: well, I did have an issue with every kernel up until 3.2.0 not finding my raid...
[17:37] <kostkon> kriston, few kbs, more like 60mbs
[17:37] <BeBoo> wols: how would I check for that?
[17:38] <TheRedOctober> Pici: what is the preferred service runlevel management tool for upstart? Symbolic links from init.d?
[17:38] <wols> BeBoo: googling mainly. and if you need 3.2 to find your RAID; how did you manage with 10.04?
[17:38] <kriston> kostkon: Yeah I'm prone to hyberbole.
[17:38] <kostkon> kriston, :P you can use a usb stick instead
[17:38] <BeBoo> wols: had to use 2.5 (?) kernel to boot until 3.2 was installed with 12.04.1
[17:39] <BeBoo> wols: 2.6.35-32
[17:39] <wols> BeBoo: 2.6? again: use an old kernel where it worked. it's debugging what you are doing. no one says you need to run it forever
[17:39] <kriston> Thanks for the help.
[17:40] <sh4hriyar> hi there! how to upgrade certain program with apt-get?
[17:41] <llutz> sh4hriyar: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[17:42] <BeBoo> wols: works under old kernel
[17:42] <wols> BeBoo: which means you have a kernel driver problem :(
[17:42] <BeBoo> bah. Ok. How can I make the 2.6 kernel the default so if the server restarts, I don't have to worry about it?
[17:43] <sh4hriyar> llutz: well, it refers to old repo which relies on ubuntu release cycle principle, I want to upgrade directly but I forgot
[17:43] <wols> BeBoo: grub in /etc/default/grub  the GRUB_DEFAULT setting
[17:43] <wols> then update-grub
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> BeBoo  better don't mess with old kernels in new systems
[17:44] <XiaolinDraconis> i cant figure out where to set how many walls i have
[17:44] <XiaolinDraconis> been all over compiz config
[17:44] <BeBoo> MonkeyDust: old HP from 2004-ish... lol
[17:45] <trism> zefoij: looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677191
[17:45] <BeBoo> wols: it's set to 0. I don't know what to set it to (the old kernel is listed under "Previous Ubuntu Systems" or something at the bootloader
[17:45] <wols> BeBoo: it's not the hardware that is the problem but a possibly changed userland
[17:45] <wols> BeBoo: for example in the future some ubuntu might use a different filesystem for which your old kernel has no support anymore. or the firewall package wants to set options that your netfilter can't, etc
[17:45] <BeBoo> wols: I'm going to be retiring this server soon anyway. Only hosts our website.
[17:46] <sh4hriyar> Did 12.04.1 added new Intel KMS support for Optimus drivers, eh?
[17:46] <ThothCastel> I now have access to the internet on my laptop and am trying to install the wireless driver for a broadcom 4311
[17:46] <BeBoo> wols: I assume that is why 3.0 didn't work for me.
[17:46] <ThothCastel> I did everything...   and on the dropdown menu says: wiress networks, devicew no ready (firmware missing)
[17:46] <sh4hriyar> llutz: do you know it? it was like "sudo apt-get foobar --upgrade" dunno exactly
[17:47] <ThothCastel> I have installed the firmware-b43-installer package and it didn't work
[17:47] <wols> ThothCastel: it clearly tells you what the problem is...
[17:47] <ThothCastel> then I tried the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[17:47] <ThothCastel> and had the same results
[17:47] <wols> b43 has no firmware package. all you can do is install the package and use it to extract firmware from a windows driver
[17:47] <ThothCastel> help please
[17:47] <ThothCastel> ubuntu 12.04 version, inspiron 1525
[17:47] <wols> ThothCastel: and there is documentation how to do that. usually included with that package too
[17:48] <ThothCastel> wols: I am new to linux, I am trying to install the right firmware.... but it doesn't seem to work!  :)
[17:48] <zefoij> trism: i don't understand the fix
[17:48] <Pici> !enter
[17:48] <ThothCastel> what should I do?
[17:48] <sh4hriyar> Why nobody responds this simple question? how to upgrade certain program with aptitude into terminal?
[17:48] <wols> ThothCastel: I just told you that you cannot install it
[17:49] <Pici> sh4hriyar: someone already responded to you.
[17:49] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, which one and why?
[17:49] <wols> sh4hriyar: cause it already was answered above
[17:49] <ThothCastel> wols: I've read some of them....
[17:49] <Pici> sh4hriyar: <llutz> sh4hriyar: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[17:49] <L3mce> !bcm43xx | ThothCastel
[17:49] <bazhang> sh4hriyar, which exact program, which version of ubuntu
[17:49] <wols> sh4hriyar: < llutz> sh4hriyar: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[17:49] <sh4hriyar> Pici: that *body did not make sense with that answer
[17:49] <mapleleafjack> Hey, could someone help me? I have a PC with 2 video card, but only one monitor works. How can i get it to work?
[17:50] <Pici> sh4hriyar: Then we don't understand your question.
[17:50] <ThothCastel> L3mce: thanks a lot for the link
[17:50] <L3mce> sh4hriyar: there is no official support for optimus from nVidia... you can install bumblebee/bumblebee-nvidia for 3rd party support.
[17:50] <sh4hriyar> bazhang: youtube-dl, it's broken in old repos, i need to upgrade directly from aptitude
[17:50] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, i have a script that you may use, hold on i will find it :)
[17:50] <bazhang> sh4hriyar, what version of ubuntu
[17:50] <sh4hriyar> L3mce: the hell are you talking about? i have no such issues
[17:50] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I 'd appreciate that!  thanks a loty
[17:50] <sh4hriyar> bazhang: 12.04.1
[17:50] <bazhang> !attitude | sh4hriyar
[17:51] <zefoij> sh4hriyar: try youtube-dl -U
[17:51] <trism> zefoij: the workaround for now appears to be: sudo apt-get install emacsen-common; (this will fail) sudo /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove xemacs21; sudo apt-get install emacsen-common; untested by me though
 Did 12.04.1 added new Intel KMS support for Optimus drivers, eh?
[17:51] <sh4hriyar> zefoij: kk
[17:51] <zefoij> trism: ye the remove part seemed to work thanks
[17:51] <sh4hriyar> zefoij: thanks
[17:52] <sh4hriyar> zefoij: does that flag work for any program?
[17:52] <zefoij> sh4hriyar: no it's specific to youtube-dl
[17:52] <zefoij> when you want to upgrade your programs, just do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:53] <sh4hriyar> oh  im sorry for blaming others then, i thought it's a general upgrade method
[17:53] <plague> Anyone could please assist me with setting up virtual hosts on Apache2?
[17:53] <zefoij> ye it's general it will upgrade all of your programs
[17:53] <sh4hriyar> ik sudo apt-get update && upgrade btw
[17:53] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, nope
[17:54] <sh4hriyar> nope?
[17:54] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:54] <sh4hriyar> lol
[17:54] <IdleOne> sh4hriyar: to upgrade a specific application like youtube-dl you would do sudo apt-get install youtube-dl , this will only upgrade if there is an upgrade available in the repositories.
[17:54] <zefoij> IdleOne: the problem is that for youtube-dl, the version in the repositories doesn't work, so you need to upgrade it manually with youtube-dl -U
[17:54] <drostie> If unity is slow to recognize resize and move actions, is it because unity sucks, or just because unity sucks when on USB? This may be relevant to whether I install Ubuntu or just upgrade Kubuntu. :D
[17:55] <hipzen> Hey, I was wondering if anybody has experienced that after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, then display is fixed to 1024x768?
[17:55] <IdleOne> zefoij: ah, well that is like you said a youtube-dl specific fix
[17:55] <wols> hipzen: what videocard and how did you install your drivers in 12.04?
[17:55] <sh4hriyar> IdleOne: there is no upgrade in repos due to release cycle principle of Ubuntu, i just have to use youtube-dl (or any other program) specifi update flag, like zef* mentioned above -U
[17:55] <Pici> sh4hriyar: Most programs don't have an option like that. youtube-dl is special.
[17:55] <BeBoo> wols: how do I know what number to assign grub_default?
[17:56] <zefoij> sh4hriyar: btw yes, that's the only program i know of that you should upgrade like that
[17:56] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[17:56] <zefoij> for every thing else just use apt-get
[17:56] <wols> BeBoo: IIRC grub counts from zero. but I dunno in what way ubuntu changed the scripts
[17:56] <xangua>  sh4hriyar youtube-dl has a ppe i believe
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> drostie, A usb will run slower, and it is as if you think we care what you install.
[17:56] <ElixirVitae> I was meaning to ask, what is the difference between ubuntu and goobuntu?
[17:56] <hipzen> wols: drivers were automatically installed in 12.04 - videocard is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
[17:57] <BeBoo> wols: Thats what I figured. However, in the listing, it list 3.2, 3.2 recovery then "previous systems" - if I choose that, then I get the option for 2.6 so I have no idea what option that would be.
[17:57] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you solve the problem yet?
[17:57] <WeThePeople> i have the script
[17:57] <wols> hipzen: radeon should work fine. maybe check your Xorg.0.log and xrandr output
[17:57] <ThothCastel> no, not yet :)
[17:57] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: not yet :)
[17:57] <sh4hriyar> L3mce: by the way, do you know what is KMS DRM? P.S.: I'm already running bumblebee optirun, installed 12.04.1 today after a while of linuxless life hehe..but noticed Intel kernel module loading while boot-up, this sounded interesting
[17:57] <OerHeks> ElixirVitae, goobuntu is a tweaked google ubuntu, they use it internally AFAIK
[17:58] <wols> !kms
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> ElixirVitae, That is basically off topic.
[17:58] <WeThePeople> please correct me if i am wrong, you need to install the driver for a broadcom nic?
[17:58] <wols> sh4hriyar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_mode-setting
[17:58] <XiaolinDraconis> im changing alt+f4 behaviour to start xkill, if i make alt+shift+f4 run killall xkill, that will cancel it right?
[17:58] <sh4hriyar> L3mce: sorry for delay, i was tied up at that moment, but  i really appreciate your help+)
[17:58] <WeThePeople> 4311
[17:58] <ElixirVitae> oh, sorry
[17:58] <ElixirVitae> I should run over to off-topic then
[17:58] <ElixirVitae> !topic
[17:58] <wols> WeThePeople: usually not. but with broadcom anything's possible. it would help if you tell us which chip exactly
[17:58] <Pici> plague: See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html#http-configuration and http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html , but be aware that Ubuntu stores its config files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[17:59] <sh4hriyar> wols: guys i don't have such an issue, just wondered who knows news in Ubuntu
[17:59] <plague> Pici thanks I will check that!
[17:59] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, see above
[17:59] <hipzen> wols, which directory do they usually end up in?
[17:59] <wols> sh4hriyar: you have no clue. and some grave issues. have a nice day
[17:59] <Pici> plague: The folks in #httpd are also available if you have more questions.
[17:59] <WeThePeople> wols, see thothcastel..
[17:59] <wols> hipzen: xrandr is a program, logfiles are in /var/log/
[18:00] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, the intel driver got updated 2-3 days ago on 12.04
[18:00] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, please correct me if i am wrong, you need to install the driver for a broadcom nic?
[18:00] <wols> WeThePeople: he does. a b43
[18:00] <WeThePeople> ok
[18:00] <sh4hriyar> wols: lol i liked this update though, i had to install bumblebee to get ubuntu 3D work, but now it auto renders Intel driver so it loads without pain, good job=)
[18:01] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: yes, install driver broadcom 4311 for a laptop inspiron 1525
[18:01] <sh4hriyar> kostkon: i didn't know there are people working on Intel KMS support for linux, but maybe they emulated iXsystems code, ha?
[18:01] <drostie> does anyone else get a problem that unity thinks picking your finger off your touchpad is a "click"? Because this is going to annoy the heck out of me.
[18:02] <drostie> is there a way to fix it?
[18:02] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, no idea
[18:02] <plague> Pici thanks a lot!
[18:02] <drostie> a *right* click no less, which makes no sense whatsoever.
[18:03] <hipzen> wols, xrandr output: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output device. Screen 0: Minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> drostie, Turn down the sensitivity I would think, tons of laptops have touchpads, think about your hypothesis for a moment.
[18:04] <drostie> wilee-nilee: I've turned the touchpad sensitivity down as far as it can go and it's still messed up.
[18:04] <wols> hipzen: check your log then
[18:05] <hipzen> wols, tbh I don't know where to look ;-)
[18:05] <ThothCastel> Hey, WeThePeople...  how will the script work?
[18:05] <ThothCastel> would you like to use pastebin?
[18:05] <sh4hriyar> kostkon: ubuntu is doing great, but with current driver(intel) i get up to 69 fps, comparing with  bumblebee nvidia i get more than 500 fps in glxgears -this means we need full Optimus support yet
[18:05] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, copy and paste each script into terminal one at a time and press enter after EACH script>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289977/
[18:05] <ThothCastel> I really appreciate that...   I ve been trying to make it work for 4 days!
[18:06] <kostkon> sh4hriyar, be patient, we'll get there :)
[18:06] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok, I will do that and be back in a minute..   thansk a lot for that!
[18:06] <ThothCastel> :)
[18:06] <vicky_> bazhang: thanx its working
[18:06] <sh4hriyar> I heard nVidia works on  Optimus natively support in linux, but it will take years :S
[18:06] <wols> hipzen: pastebin it
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> drostie, here is the man page to checkout while you wait. ;) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/synaptics.4.html
[18:07] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, when you are done with all the scripts reboot computer
[18:08] <wols> WeThePeople: shouldn't he check first if the firmware is where it is?
[18:08] <wols> rather: where it should be
[18:08] <WeThePeople> wols, it will install to proper location
[18:09] <hipzen> wols, http://pastebin.com/NHj6Xhny
[18:09] <drostie> wilee-nilee: thanks, but what precisely are you saying am I waiting for?
[18:10] <drostie> besides for unity to be functional? :>
[18:10] <wols> WeThePeople: that's not why I asked this
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> drostie, Someone to answer you problem with a solution.
[18:10] <wols> WeThePeople: ther eis no point rebooting unless the firmware file is there. so one should check
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> your*
[18:11] <ReEngineerEN> hey
[18:11] <ReEngineerEN> :D
[18:12] <drostie> wilee-nilee: while I appreciate your conviction in my ability to stick around here and complain, I think I'll just go back to Kubuntu. I've had enough of XChat marking the words "I've" and "doesn't" as typos anyway. ^_^
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> drostie, Hehe follow your bliss. ;)
[18:12] <drostie> But Unity is coming along nicely and I hope in a year or two it can actually work as a reasonable desktop environment. :D
[18:12] <drostie> I actually like the launcher and stuff.
[18:13] <wols> hipzen: you don't use the standard driver. you use fglrx. use the ubuntu standard driver "radeon"
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> drostie, I use hexchat you can add word to the dictionary I suspect xchat has this as well.
[18:14] <akSeya> ok.. i removed all configs from 12.04 and with ccsm got almost everything the way I want.. the only thing missing is really the variations in window buttons.. in some apps they are on the left on others on the right... i would like them to be all on the left, like the default...
[18:14] <troulouliou_dev> hi does anybody here have a dual boot Win8 - Ubuntu
[18:14] <troulouliou_dev> ?
[18:15] <ReEngineerEN> i do
[18:15] <ReEngineerEN> :3
[18:15] <bekks> troulouliou_dev: What happens if someone says "yes"?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> !ask > troulouliou_dev
[18:15] <akSeya> some apps that shows buttons on the right: pidgin, skype, xchat, libreoffice
[18:15] <ardchoille> wilee-nilee: actually xchat sees "doesn't" as two words; "doesn" and "t", there's no way to add "doesn't" to the dict
[18:15] <troulouliou_dev> bekks, ReEngineerEN i would like to be able to mount the drive from win 8 from nautilus
[18:15] <hipzen> wols, ok, thank you. I'll try google for an answer how to do that :-)
[18:15] <troulouliou_dev> but it fails cause mount needs the remove_hiberfile option
[18:15] <bekks> troulouliou_dev: Then just do it - it's an NTFS drive.
[18:15] <bekks> Then create a fstab entry.
[18:16] <troulouliou_dev> it works from the command line but i would like to configure nautilus to do it
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> ardchoille, Hexchat is the same, I guess english composition is a challenge at times for all of us.
[18:16] <akSeya> actually.. now looks like all window buttons are on the right... only when maximized they appear on the left
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> ardchoille, It is like a second language here. ;)
[18:16] <akSeya> is this the expected behavior?
[18:17] <troulouliou_dev> bekks, isn't there a way to configure nautilus to add options to mount ?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> akSeya, With unity they are going to be on the left when maximized.
[18:17] <bekks> troulouliou_dev: I dont know of such a way. Just use your fstab.
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> akSeya,The top panel is part of the window when maxed
[18:19] <akSeya> wilee-nilee, that's ok, but how about the window buttons position when not maxed?
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> troulouliou_dev, W8 should show in the left panel.
[18:19] <kadisou> server irc.epiknet.org
[18:20] <Marcin_> Hi, i would like to try Ubuntu with WUBI, i downloaded the file, but if I start it after some seconds the file vanishes from taskmanager and nothing happens
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> akSeya, You can have them on the left or right.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> Marcin_, you have the wubi download .exe the latest?
[18:21] <joeljgarrett> I am trying to load lubuntu 12.04 to an old inspiron 8000 usng the regular 386 CD.  I have verified the MD5SUM of the iso and then checked the CD from the main menu when booting the install CD - the install appears to go ok several splash screens go by but when the lubuntu 12.04 screen wiith the black background instead of the blue comes up things just seem to stop happening.  Is there some way to log the progress of the instal
[18:21] <joeljgarrett> errors that might be coming up?
[18:21] <Marcin_> yeah I just downloaded it
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > joeljgarrett
[18:21] <Marcin_> i tested wubi which is in the UBUNTU Iso
[18:21] <tyurrrr> How can I install QuickTime on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:21] <Marcin_> and from the ubuntu side too
[18:21] <hipzen> wols, changing from fglrx to radeon would mean editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf from Section "Module" < Load "glx" < Endsection to "radeon", right?
[18:21] <Marcin_> both the same
[18:22] <diverdude> Hello. is it possible to startup firefox automatically when ubuntu boots?
[18:22] <diverdude> so that the first thing that pops up is firefox...automatically
[18:22] <xangua> tyurrrr: why would you want to install that¿
[18:22] <xangua> diverdude: power icon> startup apps
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> Marcin_, Wubi does not run from the ISO has not for some time
[18:23] <tyurrrr> I would install QuickTime to see .mov videos, is there another method to open this type of movies ?
[18:23] <carlisle_> tyurrrr: VLC Player
[18:23] <Marcin_> yeah, but i donwloaded also the exe from ubuntu site
[18:24] <hipzen> tyurrrr, vlc player - I believe Kino can handle them too
[18:24] <wols> hipzen: no. it would mean to uninstall all fglrx packages and remiving xorg.conf
[18:24] <kingfisher64> just wiped ubuntu 11.10 to 12.10, but it's horrendiously slow. I'm using the system as a nas server. It's virtually unusable. Is there anything I can do to improve the performance in 12.10?
[18:24] <hipzen> wols, sounds like console work, eh? ;-)
[18:24] <tyurrrr> Can I install VLC with the command : "sudo apt-get install vlc" ?
[18:24] <test3> tyurrrr: try it
[18:24] <Sicp> how do I disable drivers that have been enabled from System Settings > Additional Drivers?
[18:24] <wols> not really. I'm sure there is some howto on some ubuntu site for uninstalling fglrx.
[18:25] <xangua> tyurrrr: or just install the codecs
[18:25] <Sicp> after having enabled them, I am no longer able to see anything but the TTY
[18:25] <wols> hipzen: see? Sicp has the same problem
[18:25] <Sicp> I want to disable them now
[18:25] <wols> Sicp: uninstall them like any other package
[18:25] <xangua> tyurrrr: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <Chella> hi all
[18:25] <carlisle_> tyurrrr: if you're looking for a package you can always use 'aptitude search'
[18:25] <Sicp> I didn't install them, and I don't know their names as packages
[18:25] <Chella> I need your help
[18:25] <kingfisher64> is 12.04 drastically quicker than 12.10?
[18:25] <Chella> may be someone can explain me about ubuntu
[18:25] <hipzen> wols, that would make it a known bug, eh? ;-)
[18:25] <Sicp> does "Enabling" them in Additional Drivers mean "installing them" for Ubuntu?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> kingfisher64  some things I use, picked up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/1289542/
[18:25] <joeljgarrett> ubottu - does it matter that I am able to cleanly boot lubuntu from the cdrom
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> Marcin_, The .exe should download the OS, not sure but having the ISO there may be causing a problem here is the wubi wiki. Please use nicks in the channel. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[18:26] <tyurrrr> I have just installed VLC, Thanks ! :-)
[18:26] <test3> Sicp: yes
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, This is installed correct?
[18:26] <Sicp> I see
[18:26] <Chella> is ubuntu faster than windows?
[18:26] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I run the scripts...
[18:26] <ThothCastel> not working    :)
[18:27] <kingfisher64> it's only a pentium 4, 2gb ram, 2tb hd MonkeyDust. I'm shocked at the performance difference
[18:27] <tyurrrr> Goodbye
[18:27] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I don't see the wireless connection on the dorpdown
[18:27] <xangua> !ubuntu | Chella test it yourself ;)
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> Chella, To many variables and a offtopic question.
[18:27] <dontknow> Chella, i confirm that win7 is fater than ubuntu
[18:27] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee I can boot from the try lubuntu option fine, it just won't install all the way if I pick the install option
[18:27] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, i found some typos ing the script so here it is again, sry.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290019/
[18:27] <Chella> then why people use ubuntu?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> Chella  to work with their pc
[18:28] <carlisle_> Chella: because linux is great!
[18:28] <carlisle_> also, ignore what that other guy said
[18:28] <carlisle_> 'faster' is pretty subjective
[18:28] <bazhang> !ot | Chella
[18:28] <test3> !guidelines
[18:28] <xangua> carlisle_: the other said that it was 'fater' :)
[18:28] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok... thank you :)
[18:29] <kingfisher64> can someone tell me is 12.04 much quicker than 12.10? I've installed 11.10, 12.10 already and am not happy with the performance. I'll install 12.04 if it's closer to 11.10 in speed "performance"
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, Have you tried a nomodeset boot of the cd or maybe try the alternative cd, still available in 12.04
[18:29] <Chella> really red hat 5 ten years ago and then I was using kde and gnome
[18:29] <test3> kingfisher64: 12.04 is pretty fast
[18:29] <Chella> and it was only taking a lot of space and didn't have much choices too
[18:29] <bazhang> kingfisher64, there are many variables involved with that: ram cpu etc hard to say
[18:29] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, hold on i found 1 more typo,, grrr
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett,Sounds like a graphic issue of some sort even if the cd  boots to the desktop
[18:30] <Chella> and the major problem was when I went to the root, it started to become unstable
[18:30] <bazhang> Chella, this is ubuntu support only
[18:30] <wols> hipzen: depends. what happened is, amd stopped supporting 4000 series GPUs with their driver
[18:30] <bazhang> Chella, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[18:30] <Chella> I know but red hat also either brother or sister of ubuntu
[18:30] <hipzen> wols, oh...
[18:30] <kingfisher64> I know but only an hour ago I asked you and a few others bazhang about removing 11.10 and putting 12.10 on. It's now on, but unusable. Same machine different ubuntu version.
[18:31] <wols> hipzen: but since you had the driver installed with 12.04 or whatever, it simply updated the package to the new driver which doesn't support the gpu anymore
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> kingfisher64  phoronix.com has extensive bechmark tests, maybe take a look on that site
[18:31] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee I will try the nomodeset that ubottu suggested, I wasn't sure if the fact that the black screen has lubuntu 12.04 on the middle of it with the 4 dots underneath and the busy spinner is going and things just seem to stop happening, Wondering if this is different from what the nomodeset fix option fixes.
[18:31] <Chella> red hat was also linux based kernel or not?
[18:31] <bazhang> Chella, this is the wrong place for it.   #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:31] <kingfisher64> will do MonkeyDust
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> Chella  you're in the wrong channel
[18:31] <Chella> I don't know much about computers like you guys but...........................
[18:31] <hipzen> wols, ok, I've removed everything related to fglrx - I'll try rebooting
[18:31] <bekks> Chella: The "kernel" is "linux". everything else is just the userland.
[18:32] <bazhang> Chella, stop with the chit chat
[18:32] <hipzen> wols, thanks for the help :-)
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, nomodset is just a graphic change boot it does not intrinsically fix anything
[18:32] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee i'll give that a try and then the alternative cd if that doesn't do it.
[18:33] <kingfisher64> ok, don't mind removing 12.10 and putting 12.04 on if performance is going to be greatly improved
[18:33] <dontknow> is there a spesific channel about unity dash?
[18:33] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee thanks for the suggestions and advice
[18:33] <bazhang> dontknow, not really no
[18:33] <dontknow> bazhang, i want to talk about its legal notices
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, You might look at the mini cd a net install if you want it trimmed down and more choice
[18:34] <bazhang> dontknow, which are those
[18:34] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: is that the good one?
[18:35] <dontknow> bazhang, legal notice in dash says, "if you turn off the online search results we don't give your keywords to 3rd party" it means canonical will still have the records
[18:35] <joeljgarrett> wilee-nilee, the device I'm trying to install on has 512MB RAM and 20GB HD perhaps the isntaller is running out of RAM with the 386CD?  How do I get this mini CD net install?
[18:36] <carlisle_> joeljgarrett: you can find it on the downloads page, one sec let me grab you a link
[18:36] <carlisle_> joeljgarrett: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:36] <bekks> dontknow: For me, it sounds like Canonical doesnt have any keywords unless activating online search results.
[18:36] <bazhang> dontknow, no idea sorry
[18:36] <joeljgarrett> is this the alternate cd?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:36] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, again sry.. run this>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290033/
[18:36] <carlisle_> joeljgarrett: the network install cd is not the alternate cd
[18:36] <bazhang> joeljgarrett, 12.10 has no alternate cd
[18:36] <carlisle_> ^
[18:36] <PyGuy> Hey can someone tell me how to acquire the nvidia drivers in Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> joeljgarrett, The alternate is a full cd but a text install.
[18:36] <bekks> joeljgarrett: No. Thats the minimal CD. :)
[18:37] <bekks> PyGuy: apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:37] <wols> bazhang: the netinst is still a text mode installer, right?
[18:37] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, yes,  but dropped for 12.10
[18:37] <bazhang> wols, I'd assume it must be
[18:37] <wols> bazhang: kinda like a "little alternate CD" :)
[18:37] <dontknow> bekks, no, it doesn't say like that, it says we don't share with 3rd party
[18:37] <joeljgarrett> OK everyone, I've definitely got a few alternatives to try, thanks for the help
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, Yes, the user is installing 12.04
[18:37] <carlisle_> the network installers have always been text based
[18:37] <bazhang> ncurses?
[18:37] <bazhang> wilee-nilee, ok thanks
[18:38] <IdleOne> dontknow: that would be something you would need to ask Canonical about.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, good eye. ;)
[18:38] <bekks> dontknow: I read it the way that Canonical doesnt share the online results which only exist when activating them.
[18:38] <hipzen> wols, just a quick thanks - that did the trick :-)
[18:39] <dontknow> bekks, you got wrong then
[18:39] <bekks> dontknow: How de we know wether I got them wrong or you got them wrong. You have no proof :)
[18:39] <dontknow> IdleOne, if the legal notice is clear, why should i ask canonical about?
[18:39] <e\ectro> trying to run a sudo do-release-upgrade and getting no new version found
[18:40] <e\ectro> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[18:40] <PyGuy> Is there a way to get rid of the static that's flickering on the text in Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> e\ectro, from what to what release?
[18:40] <e\ectro>  sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:40] <e\ectro> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[18:40] <e\ectro> No new release found
[18:40] <bazhang> e\ectro, make sure check for lts only is disabled
[18:40] <dontknow> bekks, because i can read even if my first language is not english
[18:40] <e\ectro> ah thanks
[18:40] <xangua> e\ectro: software center-edit-sources-updates-enable normal release upgrade
[18:40] <IdleOne> dontknow: apparently it is not clear, that is why you have questions about it. ask Canonical to clear up any questions you might have. We are not lawyers and can't answer for them.
[18:41] <bekks> dontknow: And I can read too. And I am understanding them another way than you. So it is pointless to discuss who's right unless someone can prove his/her point of view.
[18:41] <dontknow> IdleOne, i am wondering if some knowledgeble person analyze the data what it sends
[18:41] <carlisle_> i think that kind of information is outside the scope of what this channel might be able to provide dontknow
[18:41] <carlisle_> ;)
[18:42] <IdleOne> dontknow: This is not on topic for this channel. All I can suggest is that you email Canonical and ask them to clarify exactly what that notices means.
[18:42] <ESphynx> Congrats on the release everyone =)
[18:42] <LuizAngioletti> Hello there!
[18:42] <LuizAngioletti> I'm using U12.04 Server
[18:42] <PyGuy> I'm getting a sort of static effect all over certain icons and text. How do I get rid of it? (12.10)
[18:43] <LuizAngioletti> I'd like to know where are the files that the command loadkeys operate with...
[18:43] <Chimistu`> hi everyone
[18:43] <islandmonkey> PyGuy: Sounds more like a bug to me
[18:43] <islandmonkey> Chimistu`: Hi Dr. Nick!
[18:43] <kingfisher64> sounds like I might be better with a light version of ubuntu. anybody any suggestions from personal experience?
[18:44] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: from the man page: If  the  -d  (or  --default  )  option is given, loadkeys loads a default keymap, probably the file defkeymap.map either in /usr/share/keymaps or in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char.
[18:44] <islandmonkey> kingfisher: Xubuntu/Lubuntu
[18:44] <bazhang> !lubuntu | kingfisher64
[18:44] <e\ectro> xangua: perfect :)  thanks!
[18:44] <LuizAngioletti> kingfisher64: I'd use the 10.04, it's LTS and not so heavy (graphically)
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> LuizAngioletti, LTS for only six more months
[18:44] <Chimistu`> can i ask a question?
[18:45] <islandmonkey> !ask | Chimistu`
[18:45] <kingfisher64> 11.10 is fine but 12.10 is not. I only want to install a couple of web browsers for testing and virtualbox so I can use freenas.
[18:45] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: the directory /usr/share/keymaps doesn't exist in my install.
[18:45] <Chimistu`> ooops, ok, sorry! :D
[18:45] <kingfisher64> I was looking at lubuntu
[18:45] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> anyone fix this?http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290050/
[18:45] <xangua> !here | Sexy-Girl-Buntu_
[18:45] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: check the man page on your version and see if it says differently
[18:45] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> xangua, can YOU fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290050/
[18:45] <xangua> ...
[18:45] <carlisle_> also that is from a debian machine, sorry
[18:46] <carlisle_> i dont think the man pages would be different though
[18:46] <kingfisher64> will go with lubuntu then thanks bazhang, ubottu
[18:46] <stiv2k> hello i downloaded ubuntu-12.10-server-i386, checked md5sum, burned to a CD-RW, but it wont boot up in this computer...help please
[18:46] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: it says the same as you... =/ But I'm unable to find the keymap files.
[18:46] <papachan> now i am running ubuntu 12.10
[18:46] <islandmonkey> Sexy-Girl-Buntu_: Looks like a bug
[18:46] <papachan> all thinks ok
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> stiv2k, we assume you know how to set the bios and burned this as a image slowly, do you know the out of bios boot menu?
[18:47] <stiv2k> wilee-nilee, yes, i press ESC at the bios POST screen to choose the CDROM as the boot device but it apparently does not find anything bootable on it
[18:47] <Chimistu`> I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 (upgrade). When I visit different websites, a popup pops up asking me whether I want to install an app for extra features and better access. I was just wondering if what I'm about to install comes from Ubuntu (official repository?) or from the different sites? It's safe to install those extensions?
[18:48] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: inside /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/ the file defkeymap.map doesn't exist.
[18:48] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: In my case, the system was installed with brazilian keyboard layout.
[18:48] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: LuizAngioletti i'm poking around right now to see if i can track it down
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> stiv2k, Should boot there, you can check the md5 of the actual disc as well.
[18:48] <ardchoille> stiv2k: did you burn the ISO as an image to the CD or copy the ISO file to the CD?
[18:48] <stiv2k> wilee-nilee how?
[18:48] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> islandmonkey, yea
[18:48] <carlisle_> it doesn't look like the keymaps file is provided by kbd, the package loadkeys is provided by
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[18:48] <iceroot> Chimistu`: the browser itself has no access to the ubuntu repository so the addons are coming from somewhere else
[18:48] <Sexy-Girl-Buntu_> islandmonkey, how to fix?
[18:49] <stiv2k> ardchoille, in linux, i right click on the iso and choose to burn to disc
[18:49] <ardchoille> ok
[18:49] <anflogger> anyone can help me with the installation of Lubuntu 12.04? I need to install it with my windows xp sp3 ...
[18:49] <islandmonkey> Chimistu`: Is it possible for you to take a screenshot of this 'popup', post it to somewhere like imgur and link it here?
[18:49] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: Ok. I used 'loadkeys us' to change the layout to the keyboard I'm using now... But I got curious.. =)
[18:49] <Toph2> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 onto a 120G SSD. I have 2 other HHD on the system. The install went fine, but grub doesn't see the SSD. Any suggestions?
[18:49] <bazhang> Chimistu`, the webapps for such as google, gmail and the like?
[18:50] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: ya i'm not sure sorry :(
[18:50] <bazhang> iceroot, its something new. webapps
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, Do you know which OS has the grub control it would be at the top of grub, run sudo update-grub in that OS.
[18:50] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: thx anyway
[18:50] <LuizAngioletti> anyone else?
[18:50] <Chimistu`> yes, the websites are safe (Yahoo, Gmail, Youtube, facebook, etc)
[18:50] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: not working buddy
[18:51] <ardchoille> bazhang: Chimistu` s issue kinda sounds like an attempted malware install, no?
[18:51] <islandmonkey> Sexy-Girl-Buntu_: It's a bug that needs reporting. It's not a problem that could be easily fixed by a non-developer?
[18:51] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: if you wanna be hardcore use 'strace' to see where it's loading files from
[18:51] <bazhang> Chimistu`, you wish to install them? turn that feature off?
[18:51] <iceroot> bazhang: ah this "type new in the unity thing at it will show "new message" and will create a new mail with the browser in gmail?
[18:51] <ardchoille> oh, I guess I was wrong, then
[18:51] <Toph2> wildc4rd,,, ok,, i'll try,, a previous version on a different HD has control,, i'm in that now and will try.
[18:51] <islandmonkey> Sexy-Girl-Buntu_: Sorry don't know why I put a question mark there :)
[18:51] <bazhang> ardchoille, its a webapps thing, new to 12.10
[18:51] <ardchoille> bazhang: ah, ok.. looking forward to using that then
[18:52] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you start with nothing install first, delete all the packages before running the scripts
[18:52] <anflogger> anyone can help me with the installation of Lubuntu 12.04? I need to install it with my windows xp sp3 ...
[18:52] <WeThePeople> installed*
[18:52] <bazhang> iceroot, I dont know the particulars but that sounds right, and its part of ubuntu 12.10
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, You can the set the control in any OS by booting to it then running sudo grub-install /dev/sdX    X is the disc it is on
[18:52] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: how would I do that?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> then*
[18:52] <iceroot> bazhang: ok thanks for the info
[18:52] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: is it as simples as trace <command>?
[18:52] <islandmonkey> anflogger: What's wrong with it?
[18:52] <Chimistu`> no, it could be cool to have them, I was just curious if it's ok (safe) to install them, as the message only pops up when I actually connect to those websites (Yahoo, GMail, Grooveshark,...). I'm quite a beginner in using Ubuntu and I want to just stick to the official repository (at least now, at the beginning) and not install 3rd party apps
[18:52] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: how can I do that?
[18:52] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, something may be conflicting
[18:52] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: I *think* I found it...
[18:53] <ardchoille> iceroot: I'm guessing 12.10 brings a lot of new features to the table
[18:53] <bekks> ardchoille: Which ones? :)
[18:53] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok...  i thought it was included on the script to remove any other package
[18:53] <ardchoille> webapps, to name one
[18:53] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols | Although I don't have the X system installed, there seems to be a x11 folder...
[18:53] <iceroot> ardchoille: i will update my secondary latopt to 12.10 but stick with 12.04 for the production line :)
[18:54] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, no not included in the script.. go into synaptic and remove everything that is accociated with the broadcom nic drivers
[18:54] <iceroot> ardchoille: because 12.04 is running perfect here and we all know "never touch a running system" :)
[18:54] <Toph2> wildc4rd,,, should I be installing grub on my sdc1?   That is  the SSD where my os is on
[18:54] <ardchoille> iceroot: :)
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, Most likely yes.
[18:54] <anflogger> islandmonkey: they do not like Lubuntu partitions without touching the Windows XP operating system, and I have both Operating Systems
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, Sorry NO sdc
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Toph2, NO partition number
[18:55] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: you can check what package provides that with 'dpkg -S /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols'
[18:55] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok, I am installing synaptic... thank yu
[18:55] <LuizAngioletti> very helpful, thx.
[18:55] <Toph2> wildc4rd,,, ok,, so just sdc
[18:55] <carlisle_> np :)
[18:56] <islandmonkey> anflogger: Perhaps you should set up a dedicated partition for Lubuntu before the install using gparted livecd
[18:56] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: it's xkb-data
[18:56] <anflogger> how do I install Lubuntu with Windows XP? anyone can give me instructions on this problem I have?
[18:56] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: running an strace
[18:57] <bekks> !dualboot | anflogger
[18:57] <anflogger> mmmmmm ok islandmonkey
[18:57] <rvgate> My laptop has 2 videocards.. Intel and Nvidia (optimus technology), how do i know wich one its using for my desktop ?
[18:57] <anflogger> thanks for your help
[18:58] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople:  sorry, I got an error while installing synaptic...   ' ---       the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter
[18:58] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Always will be NVIDIA, since Optimus is not on Linux
[18:58] <bekks> ThothCastel: Please provide the complete output in a pastebin.
[18:58] <islandmonkey> anflogger: No problem
[18:58] <bekks> !pastebinit | ThothCastel
[18:58] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, type sudo apt-get remove --purge b43-fwcutter
[18:59] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: could strace break the argument command?
[18:59] <cylarcy>  /msg NickServ identify lemesos83
[18:59] <cylarcy>  /msg NickServ identify lemesos83
[18:59] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: it shouldn't, try quoting the command after 'strace'
[18:59] <bekks> cylarcy: Use another PW immediately.
[18:59] <bekks> cylarcy: And DONT tell it to us.
[18:59] <bazhang> cylarcy, time to change pass
[18:59] <WeThePeople> cylarcy, do that in freenode server
[18:59] <carlisle_> lol!
[18:59] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: It seems to work just fine, when simply 'loadkeys us' or 'loadkeys br', but when I put strace in front of it, it kinda breaks with infinite output.
[18:59] <bazhang> he's gone
[19:00] <WeThePeople> lol
[19:00] <islandmonkey> *facepalms*
[19:00] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: and with the quotes it doesnt work.
[19:00] <gaetano> anyone knows why i put a cd with images into the tray and the images are all separated...
[19:00] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: :(
[19:01] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: play around with it!
[19:01] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: how do I report a bug (if it is one)? Without the graphical interface?
[19:01] <bekks> gaetano: Because you put them on the cd like that.
[19:01] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: i am not sure about that, sorry :(
[19:01] <islandmonkey> !bug | LuizAngioletti
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> gaetano, That might need a more detailed description
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> images alone have multiple meanings here
[19:02] <holmquistc> Hey guys!  I'm a noob considering getting into Ubuntu.  I was hoping I could get your guy's feedback on some stuff?
[19:02] <LuizAngioletti> islandmonkey: thx. =)
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> holmquistc, This is support, you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:03] <holmquistc> Oh ok
[19:03] <holmquistc> My mistake.  Ok I'll go check that out
[19:03] <holmquistc> thanks
[19:04] <iceroot> holmquistc: this channel is fine if you have questions for your installation
[19:04] <iceroot> hipzen: feel free to place your support questions here
[19:04] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, how do I make Notes stop popping up every time I log in to Xubuntu?
[19:04] <iceroot> hipzen: sorry wrong nick
[19:05] <gaetano_> why my 3d drivers are not working!!?!?!
[19:05] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[19:05] <papachan> when i restart ubuntu ask me to mount tmp folder?
[19:05] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: doesn't work =/ Thank you for your help, though.
[19:05] <papachan> but there is a tmp folder
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> !details > gaetano_
[19:05] <papachan> dont know why
[19:05] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, how do I make Notes stop popping up every time I log in to Xubuntu?
[19:05] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: no problem, sorry i couldn't be of more help :(
[19:06] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: if you figure it out come back here and tell me :)
[19:06] <lumia610> ciao
[19:06] <lumia610> !list
[19:06] <Jacruth> Ey guys, I can't hear any sound from my ubuntu.
[19:06] <Jacruth> how to diagnose it
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Hishamoto_Masuki, The channel is busy, if someone knows the answer they will probably respond, there is also #xubuntu
[19:07] <atrepp> hi, i just updated ubuntu to the latest version and i can not start asterisk correctly it says  http://pastebin.com/XsCwbjmK
[19:08] <karlpinc> Where can I go to browse ubuntu packages?
[19:08] <Aleksander> Hello :) Is there an option to prevent ubuntu desktop installer from installing GRUB?
[19:08] <seednode> Not that I'm aware of, but I believe you can switch over to syslinux after install.
[19:08] <islandmonkey> karlpinc: Ubuntu Software Centre
[19:09] <yeats> Aleksander: no - but you should have that option in the alternate installer
[19:09] <yeats> !alternate | Aleksander
[19:09] <carlisle_> yeats: alternate installer has been discontinued with 12.10
[19:09] <bekks> karlpinc: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Aleksander, You can install grub to the install partition rather then the mbr.
[19:09] <yeats> oops
[19:09] <Eagleman> join #openvpn
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> than*
[19:09] <yeats> carlisle_: that's unfortunate - there are times when that *is* the solution :-/
[19:09] <carlisle_> you /should/ be able to deselect grub with the net installer
[19:09] <Aleksander> thank you - and is there an option to automagically scan other partition for systems?
[19:10] <carlisle_> Aleksander: update-grub usually picks up on them
[19:10] <Aleksander> last time I installed ubuntu it didn't recognize my Arch, and grub2 is so much more painful than 1
[19:10] <seednode> I just use syslinux; it's really intuitive to edit.
[19:10] <carlisle_> Aleksander: if you wanna try the installer in a vm see if you can deselect grub at the end
[19:10] <rvgate> islandmonkey, how can i tell its using the nvidia card though?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Aleksander, Arch neds to be mounted when you have been installed to be seen by the os-prober
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> needs*
[19:10] <karlpinc> bekks: Thanks.  That's what I'm looking for.
[19:10] <Eagleman> Where do i find the default init script delivered with openvpn?
[19:10] <Aleksander> thank you, well, I'll try :)
[19:11] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Because it always will be
[19:11] <rvgate> islandmonkey, well.. you say that... but how can i tell...
[19:11] <dfsds> Hello, is there a developer who would listen to me? I have some constructice idea how to make the system better.
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> Aleksander, Fedora 17 has the same issues with needing a mount to be seen.
[19:11] <layke_> Not sure what would be the correct channel, but I have a bash script that I run on new servers to install some of the packages that I need. Here the relevant extract... http://pastie.org/5085519  For some reason, even though I run that, the new settings for memcached don't get applied. I always have to SSH in and run the service memcached restart command again
[19:11] <llutz> Eagleman: /etc/init.d/openvpn
[19:12] <rvgate> islandmonkey, what i mean is.. how can i confirm it myself
[19:12] <layke_> It's as though, it restarts before the contents of /etc/memcached.conf have been replaced..
[19:12] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I got the following error when executing the last command of your script
[19:13] <balachmar> Hi, I have just upgraded Ubuntu and therefore Eclipse to 3.8, however, it seems that a plugin is not compatible. And Eclipse does not start. How can I disable the plugin without starting eclipse?
[19:13] <ThothCastel> http://pastebin.com/AqHKFr6s
[19:13] <layke_> The same happens for all my other services as well where I change the configs.. It's not just limited to memcached.
[19:13] <gaetano_> wilee-nilee: i ve downoladed teaks in order to have 3d effects on my desktop but they dont work...and i cant even open blender
[19:13] <budtaz> hi guys  i have problems with youtube video and it  not show it all white screen  ....
[19:13] <budtaz> anyone can help ??
[19:13] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Well you can guarantee it's the NVIDIA because as I said, there is no Optimus for Linux.
[19:14] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[19:14] <ElixirVitae> I sometimes find myself with a broken/unresponsive compiz, or without tray and launcher. It turns back to normal sometimes if I ctrl+alt+F2 then alt+F7, but this is not the case for most of the time. What command can I run in tty to refresh compiz?
[19:14] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: judging by the look of the output, I'd say it is a bug. =/
[19:15] <islandmonkey> rvgate: It will use the NVIDIA because it's the primary card
[19:15] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: just rebooted, not working  :)
[19:15] <rvgate> islandmonkey, then what is this bumblebee then... it seems to support optimus... i've had it all configured with 12.04, running on intell without consuming power from the nvidia card.. and then using optirun when i needed the nvidia card
[19:15] <carlisle_> layke_: you start/stop services with the /etc/init.d script, unless i am way behind and upstart has changed that
[19:16] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Well you could of told me at the start you were using bumblebee :)
[19:16] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: aparently the first bug I ever found worth listing. =P
[19:16] <budtaz> anyone can help me ?     i have problems with youtube and it show white screen
[19:16] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Erm, well, I don't really know then
[19:16] <rvgate> islandmonkey, thats my point.. its not.. but i cant confirm it.. thats why i need to know what card its currently using
[19:16] <gaetano_> help!!! i downloaded 3d tweaks to get 3d effect on my desktop but they dont work! and i cant even open blender! anyone knows something abot that??
[19:16] <islandmonkey> !patience | budtaz
[19:16] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you start with a clean slate first for your broadcom, did you get synaptic package manager installed?
[19:16] <budtaz> sorry
[19:17] <carlisle_> LuizAngioletti: awesome!
[19:17] <carlisle_> (in a not awesome way)
[19:17] <LuizAngioletti> carlisle_: =P
[19:17] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: yes, I made sure that the b43-fwcutter was uninstalled and so was the firmware for the card
[19:17] <LuizAngioletti> !bug
[19:17] <zetheroo> I am confused as to whether or not Unity is still Gnome or still uses Gnome ... ?
[19:17] <ThothCastel> would you like to connect to my computer using teamviewer?
[19:17] <zetheroo> and then what is lightdm?
[19:17] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Is there a way for bumblebee to tell you?
[19:17] <layke_> carlisle_, I don't really know.. But if I log in and type /etc/init.d/memcached status or service memcached status, I get the same response.
[19:18] <ThothCastel> wethepeople: I mean, could you?
[19:18] <islandmonkey> *is losing ideas*
[19:18] <layke_> carlisle_, I assumed that I could use as /etc/init.d/ via service?
[19:18] <carlisle_> i think you're supposed to use the init script
[19:19] <layke_> Okay. Not that I don't trust you ;) But can anyone else confirm as well?
[19:19] <layke_> I'll try with /etc/init.d/ now anyway carlisle_
[19:19] <carlisle_> i'm not sure if 'service' commands like how rhel have been implemented in it but the init script is a safe bet
[19:19] <layke_> The funny thing is though, is that the service command does work.
[19:19] <carlisle_> blah that was confusing, i'm not sure if the 'service' commands like how rhel uses have been implemented
[19:20] <llutz> carlisle_: "service" just runs init-scripts
[19:20] <carlisle_> i'm a little behind on the newer ubuntu stuff, i'm mostly using debian
[19:20] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, the firmware stays on the nic > network interface card, thats why its called 'firm' ware unlike software, fwcutter extracts the firmware from the eprom on the nic to be installed on your system
[19:20] <rvgate> islandmonkey, well.. optirun doesnt work anymore... telling me it cant find the secondary gpu
[19:20] <carlisle_> llutz: ah
[19:20] <genii-around> layke_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/memcached/filelist indicates no /etc/init  entry, only /etc/init.d which means it still hasn't been converted to upstart yet ( at least not in Precise )
[19:20] <islandmonkey> rvgate: Hmm, well, I don't know. Sorry
[19:21] <WeThePeople> ok, have you 'installed' anything else that you can remember besides fwcutter
[19:22] <LuizAngioletti> hello?
[19:22] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, broadcom can be a pain in the @ss sometimes
[19:22] <bulletrulz> bullet_ U ARE NOT ME!
[19:23] <papachan> how i can try python3 on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[19:23] <guntbert> dfsds: you will find no developers here - please join me in #ubuntu-discuss to see how we can help
[19:23] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, idk what the error is..
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> bulletrulz, Hehe a bit sensitive are we. ;)
[19:25] <islandmonkey> ^lol
[19:25] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: thanks a lot mate,
[19:25] <ThothCastel>  WeThePeople : big pain in the @SS!!!!
[19:25] <Lunar_Lamp> There is no unity 2D in 12.10, but the effects in unity are lagging severely for me, so how can I get an equivalent, or turn off the effects? (my graphics card does not have a working devent driver)
[19:25] <islandmonkey> ThothCastel: Oi, cut it. Not everyone in here is a know-it-all
[19:25] <ThothCastel> we I am doing everything again.... removing packaged    firmware and b43fwcutter
[19:26] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, the firmware cannot be removed
[19:26] <IdleOne> typing the word @SS doesn't make it any cleaner. Please refrain from using it.
[19:26] <ThothCastel> do you have any handy software for remote support like teamviewer, vnc...  similar?
[19:26] <Cbuck> Hey can somebody help me with some windows xp stuff?
[19:26] <IdleOne> Cbuck: ##windows can
[19:26] <Cbuck> im having problems connection to the internet buy linux works...
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> Cbuck, Is it ubuntu related?
[19:26] <Cbuck> but*
[19:26] <Cbuck> yes it is
[19:26] <WeThePeople> cbuck, see ##windows
[19:26] <Eagleman> Where do i find the default init script delivered with openvpn? not the script in /etc/init.d/ ?
[19:26] <Cbuck> because ubuntu works
[19:27] <Cbuck> ##windows
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Cbuck, That is not relevant
[19:27] <WeThePeople> cbuck, whats the issue
[19:27] <IdleOne> Cbuck: We help with ubuntu issues, windows issues in ##windows
[19:27] <llutz> Eagleman: that IS the init-script. dpkg -L openvpn   for a full list of files coming with it
[19:28] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, fyi use modprobe, google it
[19:28] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: -  do you have any handy software for remote support like teamviewer, vnc... similar?
[19:28] <WeThePeople> no
[19:28] <ThothCastel> ok
[19:28] <WeThePeople> i tried
[19:28] <PyGuy> Hey guys, I installed nvidia-current and now my resolution is locked very low
[19:28] <w3p5t3r> Hi guys
[19:28] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, the script got my broadcom workin
[19:28] <LuizAngioletti> If I wanted to download a specific package for a different version of Ubuntu from that I'm using, how would I proceed?
[19:29] <IdleOne> LuizAngioletti: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:29] <LuizAngioletti> IdleOne: thank you.
[19:29] <PyGuy> It only goes up to like 1024x768
[19:29] <IdleOne> welcome
[19:29] <budtaz> hi anyone know how to fix with youtube?
[19:30] <WeThePeople> budtaz, whats the issue
[19:30] <WeThePeople> budtaz, what browser
[19:30] <budtaz> its white screen
[19:30] <L3top> PyGuy: what version of ubuntu, and what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:30] <budtaz> im new this
[19:30] <WeThePeople> budtaz, where the video plays
[19:30] <Vustom> Could someone help me out? I have a 50mb partition on /dev/sda1 and Ubuntu is on /dev/sda2, how can I put a bootloader onto /dev/sda1 in ext3 and make it instantly boot into /dev/sda2?
[19:31] <PyGuy> ubuntu 12.10 and  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560] [10de:1201] (rev a1)
[19:31] <budtaz> in www.youtube.com and i try to click to video and it show white it said plug in
[19:31] <bamboz> !list
[19:31] <WeThePeople> budtaz, do you know how to get to the software center
[19:31] <budtaz> no? please help me... thanks
[19:32] <WeThePeople> budtaz, what version of ubuntu are you using
[19:32] <Vustom> Will sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 work, or?
[19:32] <gaetano_> why my 3d drivers dont work on ubuntu studio!?!?! anyone knows something about that?
[19:32] <budtaz> how i can find version ?
[19:32] <L3top> PyGuy: xrandr -q | wc -l         and lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 | grep -i kernel
[19:32] <WeThePeople> go to terminal and type lsb_release -a
[19:33] <L3top> PyGuy: the first will return a number
[19:33] <xop> Anyone familiar with remastersys?
[19:33] <budtaz> Ubuntu
[19:33] <test3> budtaz: Wich Version?
[19:34] <bamboz> !list
[19:34] <budtaz> let  me check version
[19:34] <gordonjcp> bamboz: stop that
[19:34] <PyGuy> L3top: it said failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:34] <w3p5t3r> Do i really need gnome-user-guide 3.4.1-1 on xubuntu if i run xfce 4.8? i want to kill 25MB...
[19:34] <bamboz> !list
[19:34] <gordonjcp> bamboz: does that mean something different in Italian?
[19:34] <alien2050> how to uncompress xz files ? tar?
[19:34] <s4lt> !list
[19:34] <s4lt> !list
[19:35] <gordonjcp> alien2050: with xz
[19:35] <bekks> alien2050: Using xz
[19:35] <budtaz> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[19:35] <efes> Hello :) THere's something bad with my KDE. Trash seem to be empty, but when I try delete somethning "Full trashbin" message appears. Any hints ?
[19:35] <alien2050> thx
[19:35] <test3> budtaz: do you know which Graphic Card you have?
[19:35] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ok hit tab button and type software center
[19:36] <budtaz> yes  geforece fx 5200 agp see 3dnow!
[19:36] <Mr__> anyone get their proprietary video drivers working with the new release?
[19:36] <PyGuy> Mr__ not me, sadly. That's what I'm getting help with
[19:37] <budtaz> already appear software center
[19:37] <OY1R> q: can the latest ubuntu version run gnome 3 ?
[19:37] <s4lt> !list
[19:37] <s4lt> !list
[19:37] <s4lt> !uptime
[19:37] <Shadow`> Windows7 Uptime: 1day 22hrs 31mins 59secs Best: 1wk 4days 20hrs 53mins 30secs
[19:37] <FloodBot1> s4lt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <L3top> PyGuy: I didn't get the output of the second one
[19:37] <Mr__> PyGuy, me too man ,, nothing show up in the software sources "additional drivers" section
[19:37] <L3top> s4lt: stop that
[19:37] <Mr__> and i have a 2 gig ati pcie card
[19:37] <yeats> OY1R: yes - unity is built on gnome3
[19:37] <IdleOne> s4lt: Please stop
[19:37] <Mr__> if thats not recognized then thats ridiculous
[19:37] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ok go into software center and type as shown>>> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:37] <budtaz> next what ??
[19:37] <budtaz> ok
[19:38] <OY1R> yeats, so NO traces of unity what so ever ?
[19:38] <WeThePeople> budtaz, click install
[19:38] <PyGuy> L3top: I get an error on the first one saying Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:38] <budtaz> hold
[19:38] <yeats> OY1R: I don't understand
[19:38] <L3top> Mr__: can I see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:38] <gordonjcp> s4lt: if you're going to cyber with ubottu do it in pm
[19:38] <Vustom> Can someone take a look at http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/ and at #6 it says to add /dev/hdaX /boot ext3 ro 0 0 to /etc/fstab, just wondering do I put the line under the text that's already there or overwrite all of it?
[19:38] <L3top> yes PyGuy I got that... what is the output of the second
[19:38] <budtaz> i did copy and paste with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:38] <yeats> !nounity | OY1R
[19:38] <budtaz> it now show?
[19:38] <PyGuy> Mr__ not me, sadly. That's what I'm getting help with
[19:39] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ok, install that
[19:39] <PyGuy> Kernel modules: nvidia_current, nouveau, nvidiafb
[19:39] <WeThePeople> budtaz, do you see a install button>
[19:39] <WeThePeople> ?
[19:39] <budtaz> yes
[19:39] <WeThePeople> install
[19:39] <IdleOne> !uptime
[19:39] <OY1R> ok, now can i upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to current version ?
[19:39] <IdleOne> thank you Shadow` :)
[19:39] <awaad> How can I install pymedia (python module) on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:39] <dragonfly> Hey guys, I've got a Toshiba L850 with ATI readon graphics card. It looks like the ATI drivers are not working properly. The screen flicker and it randomly shows lines and weird shapes.
[19:39] <L3top> PyGuy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/old.xorg.conf  then log out and back in
[19:39] <dragonfly> any fix for that ?
[19:40] <yeats> OY1R: you'd probably do better to reinstall
[19:40] <Mr__> L3top, 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] [1002:9498]
[19:40] <OY1R> yeats, ok thanks, i'll do that.
[19:40] <Vustom> I'm invisible. :(
[19:40] <w3p5t3r> Do i really need gnome-user-guide 3.4.1-1 on xubuntu if i run xfce 4.8? i want to kill 25MB...
[19:40] <L3top> Mr__: quantal uses a newer version of the proprietary driver and support has been dropped for your card. All HD 2xxx - 4xxx series.
[19:41] <hyfrLYFE> :D
[19:41] <dragonfly> L3top: What about 5xxx series ?
[19:41] <Mr__> L3top, thats ridiculous,,, are we supporting nothing after 2 years now?
[19:41] <L3top> they are good still dragonfly
[19:41] <hyfrLYFE> Vustom: :D
[19:41] <L3top> talk to AMD Mr__
[19:41] <L3top> its a horrorshow
[19:41] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: blame AMD not Canonical
[19:41] <dragonfly> L3top: Looks like mine is no longer supported.
[19:41] <yeats> Vustom: don't overwrite it - add to it (and best make a backup first)
[19:41] <PyGuy> L3top alright, I'm back in.  Now what's next?
[19:41] <Mr__> L3top, no only AMD's problem,,, keep "legacy" drivers available
[19:42] <Vustom> yeats: thanks :)
[19:42] <Mr__> thats a Canonical problem
[19:42] <L3top> Mr__: the radeon driver IS the legacy driver
[19:42] <test3> budtaz: did you install?
[19:42] <Mr__> they used to keep legacy drivers available
[19:42] <yeats> Vustom: busy channel today with yesterday's release - hard to read 'em all ;-)
[19:42] <L3top> Mr__: that is what you are running
[19:42] <Mr__> its a shitty legacy driver and a cheap cop out by canonical
[19:42] <budtaz> no .. i look for right word  then i can click it
[19:42] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: no that's an AMD problem. the older legacy drivers probably don't work with newer version of Xorg anymore.
[19:42] <dragonfly> L3top: Any idea about 7600M series ? Mine is not working properly here
[19:42] <w3p5t3r> solved::: ;) Do i really need gnome-user-guide 3.4.1-1 on xubuntu if i run xfce 4.8? i want to kill 25MB...
[19:43] <WeThePeople> budtaz, once that is installed restart your browser
[19:43] <budtaz> im still on ubuntu software center and  still look for it
[19:43] <soman> Hi all. Can I use my downloaded *.deb in Ubuntu 12.04 for Kubuntu and Xubuntu/
[19:43] <test3> budatz: you look for what?
[19:43] <Mr__> hyfrLYFE, bull, i have a debian machine with the lastest kernel and the driver works just fine
[19:43] <L3top> Mr__: in order to support the newest chipsets, canonical has to have the latest fglrx driver, it is an AMD problem that they drop support like m&ms
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> Mr__, You really are not informed in so many ways. ;)
[19:43] <IdleOne> soman: yes
[19:43] <Mr__> wilee-nilee, oh please enlighten me then
[19:43] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: that in itself sounds like bull.
[19:43] <soman> IdleOne: thanks
[19:43] <L3top> Mr__: you might check apt-cache policy fglrx and see if there is an older version you can specify
[19:44] <budtaz> what title and i can put into search  and will show ?
[19:44] <Mr__>   Installed: (none)
[19:44] <Mr__>   Candidate: 2:9.000-0ubuntu3
[19:44] <test3> budtaz: ubuntu-restricted
[19:44] <test3> budatz: and it will show up ;)
[19:45] <budtaz> found there have two diffrent
[19:45] <budtaz>  which one correct one
[19:45] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: mate, I used  the following and then the wireless option was available on the dropdown, however it  was faded out and it said (missing firmware)     :S
[19:45] <manners13> hey guys
[19:45] <Vustom> In section #9 of this tutorial; http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/ it says to edit the info in /boot/grub/menu.lst but the file doesn't exist so there's nothing to edit. Has the location or something changed in 12.10?
[19:45] <test3> budatz: take the one with flash
[19:45] <Mr__> wilee-nilee, still waiting for you to grace me with your all knowing knowledge
[19:46] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, install last script
[19:46] <manners13> iv just updated to 12.04 and when logging into terminal it informs me that 12.10 is available
[19:46] <IdleOne> !grub | Vustom
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> Vustom, menu.list is grub legacy 12.10 is grub2.
[19:46] <nkls> how to create linuxmint 13 kde on usb?
[19:46] <L3top> Mr__: stop being adversarial. I am trying to help you. Keep looking down the list at versions.
[19:46] <yeats> Vustom: yeah - that's for legacy GRUB - that's a really old tutorial
[19:46] <manners13> i try doing do-release-upgrade but i get no new release found
[19:46] <L3top> PyGuy: run xrandr -q again
[19:46] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: you mentioned a box running debian, is this the same box where you're having issues with now on ubuntu?
[19:46] <yeats> manners13: from 12.04?
[19:46] <Vustom> yeats: so, would i just skip that part and move on to the next part or?
[19:46] <manners13> yup
[19:46] <WeThePeople> budtaz, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:47] <budtaz> thank you
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Vustom,Why would you need a grub partition?
[19:47] <DJones> Vustom: Thats aimed at a very old version of Ubuntu & Grub, if you're using an Ubuntu version thats less than 2 years old, you need to see the link that ubottu gave you
[19:47] <Mr__> hyfrLYFE, no different machine, same graphics card though,,, i will have to double check the kernel version to make sure i'm right,,, think they are the same though
[19:47] <test3> budatz: after you have installed it, restart your browser
[19:47] <budtaz> now it on way install
[19:47] <PyGuy> L3top yeah the resolutions are still the same
[19:47] <Girl-Buntu> islandmonkey, i triaged to a solution -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1053749
[19:47] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I got the same error as before when insstalling the last script...
[19:47] <Vustom> DJones: i'll look for it, i must've missed it
[19:47] <DJones> !grub > Vustom
[19:47] <arekgg2> witam czy to jest kanal o ubuntu linux moze ktos po Polsku ?
[19:48] <Mr__> L3top, adversarial came from wilee-nilee  not me , and there is only one driver listed
[19:48] <hyfrLYFE> Mr__: kernel version doesn't matter as much, it's Xorg differences that causes issues of discrepencies
[19:48] <WeThePeople> budtaz, when its done restart browser
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> arekgg2, English?
[19:48] <yeats> manners13: try 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[19:48] <yeats> manners13: sorry scratch that
[19:48] <arekgg2> no
[19:48] <budtaz> thank you i will do that..
[19:48] <yeats> manners13: are you using graphical ubuntu or server?
[19:48] <manners13> server so term only
[19:49] <saurabh_> Hi, I have recently installed ubuntu 12.10 64-bit on my dell studio 1555. How can I install ati drivers?
[19:49] <Mr__> saurabh_, your probably screwed like the rest of us
[19:49] <dragonfly> saurabh: Yes you can
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> !ubuntu-pl
[19:49] <manners13> and im currently loggied in as root
[19:49] <saurabh_> The ati drivers are not coming in proprietary drivers in software sources
[19:50] <L3top> Mr__: then that is that... again... the latest release is not going to sacrifice newer hardware for older hardware. You really should vent your anger at AMD. It is ridiculous that they dropped support. I hang out in a dev channel for them, and they are working on a new driver which supports both. You will be stuck on radeon until then, or move back to 1204.
[19:50] <Mr__> saurabh_, its probably isn't supported anymore,,, same situation as me
[19:50] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1708865
[19:50] <yeats> manners13: try editing /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and see if you can change it to Prompt=normal
[19:50] <Mr__> L3top, leave it up to developers to think everyone has a new machine with new hardware
[19:50] <yeats> then try again
[19:50] <L3top> saurabh_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> arekgg2, #ubuntu-pl
[19:50] <WeThePeople> budtaz, let me know if it works
[19:51] <L3top> I couldn't agree more with your frustration Mr__.
[19:51] <saurabh_> Mr__: I was running 12.04 before and it was running fine, I tried to upgrade it to 12.10 through internet and it just messed up my laptop. It only showed the desktop, no unity and no top bar
[19:51] <yeats> Mr__: I've had the same situation with my wife's laptop - we opted for xubuntu and she's happy fwiw
[19:51] <Mr__> saurabh_, i would go to the terminal and or recovery mode and run   sudo apt-get update      then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:52] <saurabh_> Now, I have formatted my drive and installed ubuntu 12.10 from scratch, now I can't install ati drivers and my laptop is heating up like its on fire :(
[19:52] <manners13> ok thats sorted it thx
[19:52] <L3top> yeats: it is the version available that is the problem... *buntu is *buntu.
[19:52] <saurabh_> Mr__: I have already all of the updates
[19:52] <L3top> saurabh_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:52] <saurabh_> ok L3top, let my try
[19:52] <crizis> saurabh_, installing ati drivers how?
[19:52] <yeats> L3top: ah - gotcha - different problem than mine ;-)
[19:53] <navaismo> fuckyou all lamer linux users ubuntu sucks!!!!
[19:53] <saurabh_> crizis, thats what I trying to figure out
[19:53] <crizis> saurabh_, if you install from 'additional drivers', make sure NOT to select 'post-release' driver, as it has never worked in any earlier release ...
[19:53] <budtaz> still install run
[19:53] <saurabh_> crizis, but there are no drivers coming in ubuntu 12.10 in addtional drivers window
[19:53] <budtaz> give it time
[19:54] <saurabh_> L3top: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series] [1002:9553]"
[19:54] <crizis> saurabh_,  right, if it's older ATI card then you're probably out of luck as ati has afaik dropped support even for 4xxx radeons already
[19:54] <WeThePeople> budtaz, their is more we can do if that doesnt work
[19:54]  * genii-around sips
[19:54] <L3top> same deal saurabh_. ATI dropped support for your chipset.
[19:54] <aristidesfl> hi
[19:54] <budtaz> ok
[19:54] <saurabh_> L3top: ok, is there any alternative?
[19:55] <budtaz> its still run in half install and nothing change in  half way
[19:55] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to follow this guide on how to configure iptables on startup
[19:55] <L3top> You guys may have luck grabbing the older driver direct from AMD. Might leave a comment while you are there :)
[19:55] <aristidesfl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:55] <PyGuy> So L3top, I'm still getting the same resolutions from the command you told me to enter :s
[19:55] <saurabh_> L3top, but I think the older driver is not compatible with xorg 1.13
[19:55] <Mr_-> yeats, that doesn't matter, whether you use xubuntu or ubuntu or lubuntu the proprietary graphics driver won't work with the new version
[19:56] <saurabh_> and the linux kernel itself
[19:56] <brightboy> Hey so, I updated to 12.10, then reinstalled AMD drivers, now my window manager is broken
[19:56] <Mr_-> brightboy, welcome to the club
[19:56] <L3top> PyGuy: I asked you to give me a line count, you said it errored out.
[19:56] <bekks> brightboy: How did you install them?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> saurabh_, I would run precise it will be LTS for 4.5 years longer then 12.10 will have support.
[19:56] <L3top> saurabh_: I think you are correct.
[19:56] <budtaz> seem not work
[19:56] <budtaz>  so other way  to install??
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> not then but in relation to.
[19:57] <brightboy> well i had purged them before the 12.10 update, because the last 12.04 kernel, then i got the .run file from AMD and ran it
[19:57] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to follow this guide on how to configure iptables on startup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo . In the example it says I should have the interface I'm using for the network on /etc/network/interfaces but I don't have any eth0, only lo http://hastebin.com/lofosifoga. Qhat can I do?
[19:57] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to follow this guide on how to configure iptables on startup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo . In the example it says I should have the interface I'm using for the network on /etc/network/interfaces but I don't have any eth0, only lo http://hastebin.com/lofosifoga. What can I do?
[19:57] <crizis> saurabh_, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide perhaps this helps?
[19:57] <brightboy> rebooted, and now no menu bars etc
[19:57] <PyGuy> A line count?
[19:57] <bekks> brightboy: Thats a safe way to break a system :)
[19:57] <w3p5t3r> Hi, is there a MacBookPro Laptop Keymap for Xubuntu, i want to use the cmd-Button, like Mac...or i must config self?
[19:57] <bekks> brightboy: Why didnt you use the driver from the repos?
[19:57] <Mr_-> wilee-nilee, you are sooo uninformed
[19:57] <brightboy> there were none shown for me
[19:57] <saurabh_> wilee-nilee: Your idea is good, but I like having the latest software on my  laptop, and I don't want to install too much PPAs for it
[19:57] <bazhang> Mr_-, thats enough
[19:57] <brightboy> amd driver 12.6
[19:57] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: its possible those interfaces are managed by network manager and just the loop back is brought up by interfaces file
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: have you tried ufw?
[19:58] <Mr_-> bazhang, and you are?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Mr_-, He not as much as you lol.
[19:58] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy what is that?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[19:58] <matthewh3> help I just tried to install a dns cache following these two guides - http://www.debianadmin.com/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-system.html - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22750/best-way-to-set-up-dns-caching - and now I can only browse the net on Tor????
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: its a frontend to configuring iptables
[19:58] <bazhang> Mr_-, enough with the attacks and editorializing
[19:58] <L3top> brightboy: thats likely because your chipset was dropped. lspci -nn | grep VGA will likely reveal it is an hd 2xxx - 4xxx
[19:58] <saurabh_> crizis, will this beta driver work with my chipset?
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: in such you could type 'sudo ufw enable' and it will be enabled for startup
[19:58] <ElixirVitae> Metacity is for ubuntu 2D, no?
[19:58] <skpl^> how can i upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[19:58] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[19:59] <rvgate> im trying out 12.10, i created a webapp for gmail... but nothing is showing up.. nothing appeared at my launcher
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | skpl^
[19:59] <crizis> saurabh_, no idea, try and see :P
[19:59] <brightboy> haha so the same problem i had with Windows 8, I have in 12.10, which is being claimed to not have its problems
[19:59] <islandmonkey> skpl^: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[19:59] <PyGuy> L3top this is what comes out when I type the xrandr thing in the terminal: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:59] <PyGuy> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[19:59] <PyGuy> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[19:59] <PyGuy>    1024x768       61.0*
[19:59] <PyGuy>    800x600        61.0
[19:59] <FloodBot1> PyGuy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <PyGuy>    640x480        60.0
[19:59] <Mr_-> bazhang, you didn't say anything to wilee-nilee, related? involved?
[19:59] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I already have to rules all lined up
[20:00] <brightboy> well guess i will start backing up and do a wipe on my laptop
[20:00] <L3top> brightboy: when a hw manufacturer drops support for your chipset, they drop support for your chipset. This is an AMD issue, not an OS issue.
[20:00] <aristidesfl> can ufw consume /etc/iptables.rules?
[20:00] <saurabh_> crizis: I will download and try. If I don't return back to irc, you should think my system is broken again :)
[20:00] <brightboy> well the driver is still available.
[20:00] <brightboy> so why dont they keep the last released in the repos
[20:00] <L3top> PyGuy: what I asked you for was xrandr -q | wc -l
[20:00] <L3top> that will spit a number
[20:00] <PyGuy> oh ok
[20:01] <D4rkH4nd> Who made the 12.10 upgrade mistake LOL
[20:01] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if you want to load them up with just iptables you can try to switch to root and 'iptables-restore < /path/to/rulesfile'
[20:01] <gordonjcp> D4rkH4nd: be constructive or be quiet ;-)
[20:01] <captine> D4rkH4nd, I am in the proces... :)  almost done.. and u?
[20:01] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if they are where ufw expects them to be (iptables rules) then you can type ufw enable
[20:01] <yeats> aristidesfl: ufw is a wrapper around iptables, so if you're going to use it, don't mess with iptables scripts - pick one way or the other (IMHO)
[20:01] <gordonjcp> D4rkH4nd: fwiw I've been running 12.10 for a couple of months now, and it's pretty good
[20:01] <PyGuy> L3top it says "failed to get size of gamma" and on the next line it says "5." Is that the number?
[20:02] <SolarisBoy> basically what yeats said - or like i said do one or the other  - ufw is better for those not that good with iptables.
[20:02] <D4rkH4nd> captine: ya the only issue is desktop wont work. so im gonna keep it im sure it will be fixed soon
[20:02] <brightboy> so basically i cant use 12.10?
[20:02] <L3top> yeah... thats strange. ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   produces no result correct PyGuy
[20:02] <gordonjcp> brightboy: ?
[20:03] <saurabh_> crizis: I am also having problem with my touchpad. The click delay is very much
[20:03] <gordonjcp> brightboy: why wouldn't you ber able to use 12.10?
[20:03] <brightboy> the AMD driver breaks my window manager, and so far ive gotten that I am SOL
[20:03] <saurabh_> probably 1-2 sec
[20:03] <D4rkH4nd> brightboy: dont take my experiance im also using a laptop that is known to have low driver support.
[20:03] <gordonjcp> brightboy: have you filed a bug?
[20:03] <L3top> brightboy: ATI DROPPED support for your chipset... that is why the latest driver is not available in available driver... because it will break your desktop... what are you missing?
[20:03] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy let's try it out
[20:04] <brightboy> L3top I used the one I downloaded from AMD
[20:04] <SolarisBoy> ok
[20:04] <L3top> yes
[20:04] <L3top> and what happened?
[20:04] <brightboy> my window manager is broken
[20:04] <L3top> It BROKE your desktop
[20:04] <brightboy> right
[20:04] <brightboy> but it works in 12.04
[20:04] <L3top> that is why it is NOT available to you BY ubuntu
[20:04] <L3top> yes
[20:04] <L3top> because it is a previous version
[20:04] <saurabh_> brightboy, which one did you use? Is your laptop dell studio 1555?
[20:04] <brightboy> ? why should OS effect whether or not my video card driver works
[20:04] <L3top> ATI DROPPED SUPPORT FOR YOUR CARD>>> NO LONGER WORKY WORKY ON NEW DRIVER
[20:04] <saurabh_> brightboy: which driver?
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> its not the os effecting it its the driver package and what one is available to the OS
[20:05] <brightboy> 12.6
[20:05] <OY1R> i'll give mint a try first.
[20:05] <brightboy> and so im back to, I cant use 12.10 on my laptop
[20:05] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy lost access to the machine..
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: fix your rules
[20:05] <aguadito> boy, unity was robbing my computer of all its power
[20:05] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy the rules were fine
[20:05] <tom> If I do an upgrade via Upgrade Manager and I am using the 64bit 12.04 will the upgrade be to the 64bit 12.10?
[20:05] <aguadito> now xbmc runs smoothly and everything is so fast
[20:05] <aguadito> unity sucks :P
[20:05] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: its not hard - and youll learn some - start with fresh set of rules
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: how did you lose access to the machine?
[20:06] <PyGuy> L3top: So what do I do with the output number 5
[20:06] <saurabh_> brightboy: it doesn't work with x.org 1.13 I think
[20:06] <islandmonkey> tom: Yes
[20:06] <islandmonkey> tom: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[20:06] <tom> tks
[20:06] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy the rules were fine
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: configure ufw and move the iptables rules to ufw
[20:06] <D4rkH4nd> Just wondering if anyone else has found a work around for the broken desktop after .10 upgrade?
[20:06] <brightboy> alright so ill wipe and reinstall 12.04 then
[20:06] <saurabh_> brightboy: it works in ubuntu 12.04 though, I have tried it myself
[20:06] <L3top> sorry PyGuy... can you please give output of lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:06] <XiaolinDraconis> what is the process wrestool? its using a lot of memory atm.
[20:06] <SolarisBoy> then enable ufw and you will be fine
[20:06] <saurabh_> brightboy: which laptop do you own?
[20:07] <brightboy> hp dv6 radeon 4400
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> dont try to make ufw read your already done iptables configuration or anything
[20:07] <ghabit> Hello. How to install nvidia drivers on 12.04?
[20:07] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy how do I move iptables rules to ufw?
[20:07] <ghabit> Also how to check witch driver is running now?
[20:07] <saurabh_> ok
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: read them and enable them one by one
[20:07] <aristidesfl> fuck that
[20:07] <PyGuy> L3top: It's cool :) but lsmod isn't outputting anything
[20:07]  * SolarisBoy shrugs
[20:07] <aristidesfl> you told me I just had to have them in iptables
[20:07] <L3top> !language | aristidesfl
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> then use iptables like i said aristidesfl
[20:08] <aristidesfl> and then enable ufw
[20:08] <L3top> okey doke.. that is the problem PyGuy... lets try and generate a new xorg... nividia-xconfigure ... or maybe it is nvidia-xconfig... cant remember
[20:08] <brightboy> lol @aristidesfl comes for advice, criticizes advice
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> ufw is iptables so if you want to put it like that fine
[20:08] <saurabh_> anybody installed 12.10 and pc running fine?
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> im saying that it will be easier for you aristidesfl to move the rules and type ufw enable
[20:08] <xangua> !anyone | saurabh_
[20:08] <SolarisBoy> i can't imagine you have that many rules anyway...
[20:08] <XiaolinDraconis> quantal is 12.10 right?
[20:09] <islandmonkey> saurabh_: Yep
[20:09] <bazhang> XiaolinDraconis, yep
[20:09] <ghabit> saurabh_, just installed 12.10, it's ok. Some issues with nvidia drivers installation, but in general is ok.
[20:09] <islandmonkey> XiaolinDraconis: Yep
[20:09] <XiaolinDraconis> why did ubottu just tell me a package does not exist in quantel?
[20:09] <saurabh_> ubottu: I already asked my first question
[20:09] <PyGuy> L3top: xconfig said unable to write to directory '/etc/X11' :s
[20:09] <XiaolinDraconis> *quantal
[20:09] <layke_> www.chrisacky.com/images/wtf.png Why is load 30? The system appears snappy..
[20:09] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy [21:01:44] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if they are where ufw expects them to be (iptables rules) then you can type ufw enable
[20:09] <layke_> It won't drop down from 30..
[20:10] <saurabh_> ubottu: and also got the answer that my chipset in not compatible with new ati driver
[20:10] <L3top> PyGuy: yeah... I guess it would need sudo...  sorry
[20:10] <aristidesfl> now I don't have access to the machine
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: i was really simplifying this - i know where they are expected to be and i am sure you didn't create all of those file
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: thats your fault
[20:10] <saurabh_> ubottu: you are stupid!!!!!!
[20:10] <bazhang> saurabh_, no need to talk to ubottu, its a bot
[20:10] <D4rkH4nd> Is there a 12.10 channel by chance ?
[20:10] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy yeah I pressed the buttons
[20:10] <XiaolinDraconis> "<ubottu> Package wrestool does not exist in quantal"
[20:10] <bazhang> D4rkH4nd, this is it
[20:10] <test3> bazhang: ubottu is a bot...
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> no you didn't listen
[20:10] <saurabh_> bazhang: Ya, I got it
[20:10] <islandmonkey> D4rkH4nd: Yes here
[20:10] <SolarisBoy> or read
[20:10] <PyGuy> L3top: it's alright :) so it looks like a new configuration file has been written
[20:11] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy at least I thought without any configuring ufw would not block anything
[20:11] <L3top> PyGuy: go ahead and reboot
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> ufw is iptables...
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> if you have iptables rules enabled you were told twice not to do it - not to use both
[20:11] <D4rkH4nd> Any fix for broken desktop for 12.10 yet ?
[20:11] <Vustom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290264/
[20:11] <Vustom> Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? the partition is ext3 btw
[20:11] <SolarisBoy> so now you should reboot the system is likely the easiest way to release those rules from memory and possibly do a ufw disable to fix it
[20:11] <islandmonkey> D4rkH4nd: Have you reported a bug?
[20:12] <D4rkH4nd> ya
[20:12] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I rebooted the system
[20:12] <XiaolinDraconis> D4rkH4nd, you should always do a clean install, upgrades dont work out so well
[20:12] <aristidesfl> that's why I lost access
[20:12] <saurabh_> are they any legacy drivers I can install for my ati graphic card and not break ubuntu 12.10?
[20:12] <SolarisBoy> next time ensure no iptables rules are enabled - configure ufw which will read it's rules from preset locations - and then enable it after you know the rules will work
[20:12] <D4rkH4nd> Okay, ill wipe and do a clean install then.
[20:12] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy no iptable rules are enabled
[20:12] <nishttal2> hello ppl.. just did a fresh install of Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS and every thing went fine.. after reboot i got the grub list and went on to boot ubuntu but i dont see anything on the screen.. the screen green led is on
[20:12] <XiaolinDraconis> D4rkH4nd, backup the home directory if you want to keep your settings
[20:12] <L3top> saurabh_: the "legacy" driver is the open source radeon driver... and it is used by default in your circumstance
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: and how do you access the machine? ssh or other remote protocol?
[20:13] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy ssh
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> if so - ensure said remote protocol is in your allowances..
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> if you flip on ufw or any other firewall - it may not automatically do that..
[20:13] <D4rkH4nd> Well being a linux nub i can call a fresh wipe a learning lesson LOL
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> 'sudo ufw allow ssh' aristidesfl
[20:13] <saurabh_> L3top: but that sucks. Its very slow and is making my laptop go crazy hot
[20:13] <PyGuy> L3top, alright, I'm back from rebootin'
[20:13] <L3top> and?
[20:13] <XiaolinDraconis> D4rkH4nd, i know what you mean, ive been there a few times
[20:13] <SolarisBoy> in short the fw did what it should have - block the connection you didn't allow
[20:13] <PyGuy> The resolutions are even smaller
[20:14] <D4rkH4nd> Just not looking forward to getting my video driver again that took several days
[20:14] <L3top> PyGuy: can you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:14] <xangua> D4rkH4nd: since you never state what the actual problem is, no you can't :)
[20:14] <PyGuy> How do I pastebin?
[20:15] <L3top> saurabh_: I recommend dropping AMD a line on their forums. I think you will find some company there.
[20:15] <islandmonkey> Since jumping ship at 11.04 from Windows I've only had to do a clean install once and that was my fault
[20:15] <bekks> !pastebinit | PyGuy
[20:15] <saurabh_> L3top. will amd 12.4 driver work in any case on ubuntu 12.10?
[20:15] <nishttal2> anyone? its been stuck at a blank screen for an hour.. if i press ctrl+alt+del it reboots
[20:15] <saurabh_> L3top: I will.
[20:15] <D4rkH4nd> xangua: yes i did broken desktop lol like 90% of the people. No short cuts/left and right click wont work. Docks dont work
[20:15] <L3top> I dont know with the version of xorg saurabh_
[20:15] <islandmonkey> !patience | nishttal2
[20:16] <L3top> saurabh_: you might follow the steps to uninstall fglrx and reinstall mesa stuff and reconfigure... might help... one sec and I will pastebin
[20:16] <nishttal2> islandmonkey: well i waited till my 1st msg scrolled out of the screen :)
[20:16] <rvgate> after setting up gmail as a webappm, the launcher it not displaying any notifications for new emails... neither is my enveloppe turning blue on the top right... why... ?
[20:16] <saurabh_> L3top: But I'm not using any proprietary drivers now
[20:17] <L3top> did you upgrade or fresh install saurabh_?
[20:17] <miraj> rvgate> Are you sure you've gotten any emails?
[20:17] <xangua> rvgate: do you have firefox open, with the gmail page loaded¿
[20:17] <XiaolinDraconis> is there a way to make top list by memory usuage?
[20:18] <rvgate> miraj, funny... ofc i do... :)
[20:18] <PyGuy> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290280/
[20:18] <Barbaren> anyone here dual booting win8 & ubuntu? i'm having problems mounting my win8 partition
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> XiaolinDraconis: sort by RSS
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> XiaolinDraconis: type ? in the top screen
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> you will see the sort characters XiaolinDraconis
[20:18] <XiaolinDraconis> SolarisBoy, thanks
[20:18] <rvgate> xangua, yes, gmail is open in firefox.. when i click the launcher, it opens in firefox
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> XiaolinDraconis: yq
[20:18] <SolarisBoy> =) XiaolinDraconis i meant yw
[20:19] <saurabh_> L3top: I first upgraded and it break my system. Now I have formatted my drive and did a fresh install
[20:19] <L3top> saurabh_: then nevermind...
[20:20] <saurabh_> L3top: I'm gonna try ati 12.9 beta drivers. It that doesn't work, I might probably switch back to ubuntu 12.04
[20:20] <L3top> PyGuy: that is a very minimal xorg... did this work before? Can you please reexplain how you came to this situation? Did you upgrade, fresh install, was it ever working with this monitor?
[20:20] <L3top> saurabh_: do that... please report back
[20:20] <rikietje> Good evening! I have a question. I have a dual boot UBUNTU12.04 with Windows 7. We have a shared partition called Storage. Is it possible to change the documents folder of ubuntu to this storage drive?
[20:21] <saurabh_> L3top: Ya, I will.
[20:21] <SolarisBoy> rikietje: you can soft link it - but what file system is it if you dont mind me asking?
[20:21] <rikietje> The shared partition is NTFS
[20:21] <miraj> rikietje> do you already have it set to automount at boot?
[20:21] <L3top> saurabh_: while you are at it... might try the older driver with new xorg... http://pastebin.com/L6u739Cm do that between fglrx installs
[20:21] <PyGuy> L3top, well, I did a fresh install from a DVD and as soon as I typed the nvidia current command, all my graphics issues were gone but the resolution decreased heavily
[20:21] <SolarisBoy> you can soft link it - but you may run into odd permission issues here and there shouldn't be showstoppers in the Documents folder though
[20:22] <SolarisBoy> and ofcourse you need to mount the shared drive in linux and make sure the symlink exists
[20:22] <adrianrly> rikietje, edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[20:22] <rikietje> Okay iḿ very new to ubuntu how would you suggest doing it
[20:22] <L3top> PyGuy: you arent actually using the nvidia module... though it is specified for use in xorg. What version ubuntu is this?
[20:22] <PyGuy> 12.10
[20:22] <saurabh_> L3top: ok
[20:22] <L3top> !info nvidia-current
[20:23] <rvgate> xangua, miraj, i do get the "incoming message" popup on the top right desktop area which fades away after a few seconds... but still a white enveloppe and no number on the launcher icon
[20:23] <L3top> yeah... 304 should use that... no problem PyGuy. I am a bit bewildered.
[20:23] <rikietje> .r hi
[20:23] <rikietje> adrian i get an error back
[20:23] <miraj> rvgate, at least it works somehwat
[20:24] <L3top> PyGuy: can you grep nvidia /etc/modprobe.d/*
[20:24] <adrianrly> rikietje, what error ?
[20:24] <PyGuy> Well, I may have messed it up myself because I tried some solutions online that didn't help before comign to the irc
[20:24] <PyGuy> But I'll do that
[20:24] <L3top> PyGuy: results might have to go in a pastebin
[20:24] <rvgate> miraj, true.. but when im having a break and come back... i have no idea i got a new message
[20:24] <Barbaren> anyone here dual booting win8 & ubuntu? i'm having problems mounting my win8 partition
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: you may need an xorg.conf  this can happen if the screen isn't reporting its abilities
[20:24] <rikietje> no edit mailcap rules found for type application/octet-stream
[20:24] <L3top> ActionParsnip: we created one... still isnt in lsmod
[20:24] <Barbaren> specifically, it claims that the win8 disk is hibernated even though it isn't
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> L3top: gah
[20:24] <rikietje> how do i reply to you?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> rikietje: type a few letters of the nick then hit tab
[20:25] <L3top> PyGuy: well... im not sure we checked that this time... lsmod | grep nvidia    again please
[20:25] <rikietje> ActionParsnip: thx
[20:25] <adrianrly> rikietje, with what editor are you trying to open that file? Open with gedit
[20:26] <miraj> rvgate, what were you using for mail checking?
[20:26] <rikietje> adrianrly: I cant follow you right now
[20:26] <rikietje> adrianrly: i typed the command in the terminal
[20:26] <Tex_Nick> Barbaren : I can't answer your question, however I have a question for you ... do you have a UEFI BIOS, and is the secure boot issue an issue with you ?
[20:26] <rvgate> miraj, xangua, it might have to do with multiple signed in accounts... when i login into my other gmail account with firefox it does turn blue and shows me the number on the launcher icon... correct info, but not for the account i want
[20:27] <PyGuy> L3top: still no result. I wouldn't mind doing a complete fresh install again as long as I know what to do to fix my res after apt-getting nvidia-current
[20:27]  * L3top wonders if nvidia package broke a bit... PyGuy can you type dpkg --configure -a
[20:27] <adrianrly> rikietje, type this: nano ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[20:27] <PyGuy> But I'll try that
[20:27] <rikietje> adrianrly: that brought me to an editor
[20:28] <PyGuy> Alright, I did that command
[20:28] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: i do have that but i haven't enabled it i think, i'm booting with grub/MBR or whatever
[20:28] <L3top> PyGuy: no output?
[20:28] <PyGuy> Nope
[20:28] <rikietje> adrianrly: whatś next
[20:28] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: i just ran the standard ubuntu installer without anything special
[20:28]  * L3top scratches mistake maker
[20:28] <ghabit> Is it possible to get working online|offline button on gnome-shell (top-right, on the panel, on the user's nickname) stauses with pidgin?
[20:28] <GoldStandard> Are there updated ndiswrapper files for 12.10 yet?
[20:28] <miraj> rvgate, are you checking your through pop, or web interface?
[20:28] <rvgate> miraj, webinterface
[20:29] <adrianrly> rikietje, that was the idea. Edit the paths aka the paths on your „Storage” partition. To save the file CTRL+X, then type Y and press Enter.
[20:29] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: and i haven't had any issues at all
[20:29] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: was just as easy as setting up win7 + ubuntu
[20:29] <L3top> PyGuy: I have to switch servers... bbiam
[20:29] <xangua>  ghabit did you check the gnome plugin web¿ i've seen an addon for pidgin status and notifications
[20:29] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: this is the first issue i have that's related to win8
[20:29] <xangua> well two addons :P
[20:29] <miraj> rvgate, I think gmail allows pop access, doing it with pop might make a difference
[20:29] <rikietje> adrianrly: I want to change the path of the documents folder in Ubuntu to media/storage/mijn documenten
[20:29] <rikietje> adrianrly: how should i do that?
[20:30] <ghabit> xangua, do you mean https://extensions.gnome.org/ ?
[20:30] <rvgate> miraj, i dont want it trhough pop... i want it as its supposed to work with the new feature
[20:31] <adrianrly> rikietje, change this line: XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents" to XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="/media/storage/mijn documenten". Be sure to check the path as it's case sensitive.
[20:31] <D4rkH4nd> I was wondering about  desktop manegr like gnome vs KDE and such. What would be the most nub friendly to use ?
[20:31] <rikietje> adrianrly: i dont want you to think im really stupid but where should i find that line? (im new to ubuntu)
[20:31] <Galvatron> is there some hack to disable the titlebars with close buttons in the "Scale" mode?
[20:31] <Galvatron> In 12.10
[20:31] <iceroot> D4rkH4nd: kde and unity are both ok for beginners, use the one you like most (i would suggest unity (ubuntu defaults))
[20:31] <papachan> ubuntu tweak development stopped
[20:32] <LuizAngioletti> How do I search packages.ubuntu.com for a specific package? I'm interested in the libcap2 and libcap2-bin...
[20:32] <miraj> D4rkH4nd, (just an opinion)  xfce
[20:32] <iceroot> LuizAngioletti: apt-cache search packagename
[20:32] <adrianrly> rikietje, did you opened the file with nano ?
[20:32] <L3top> PyGuy: can you stop x for a minute? ( sudo lightdm stop        I think)
[20:32] <indieross> papachan, i sincerely hope someone else takes over development
[20:32] <D4rkH4nd> can you customize unity dock ?
[20:32] <LuizAngioletti> iceroot: I have no internet on the target machine
[20:32] <papachan> indieross: yeah me too !
[20:33] <Galvatron> D4rkH4nd: Unity is simpler, whilst KDE is overloaded (bloated) with features.
[20:33] <L3top> PyGuy: I want you to modprobe nvidia-current when you do... then start again
[20:33] <Galvatron> Unity is a mac-like approach
[20:33] <rikietje> adrianrly: yes but the file is empty
[20:33] <adrianrly> D4rkH4nd, what kind of user are you? nub or power?
[20:33] <adrianrly> rikietje, what ubuntu version do you have ?
[20:33] <Galvatron> I'm power and I love Unity
[20:33] <LuizAngioletti> iceroot: the answer is: use google. =/
[20:33] <PyGuy> It says failed to use bus name :s
[20:33] <rikietje> adrianrly: im at 12.04
[20:33] <L3top> !ot | there are a lot of people in here... please stop the chit chat...
[20:33] <PyGuy> Even with sudo
[20:34] <Tex_Nick> Barbaren : I'm thinking of upgrading to Win 8 ( hate to but must provide some customer support ) and was wondering about problems associated with serure boot
[20:34] <D4rkH4nd> Im new to linux but fast at learning it
[20:34] <saurabh_> !ot  |  Hey
[20:34] <saurabh_> !ot | Hey
[20:34] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy
[20:34] <saurabh_> !ot  |  Hey
[20:34] <LuizAngioletti> iceroot: on another machine.. of course. =) Thank you anyhow.
[20:34] <miraj> Tex_Nick, they've recently announced a potential solution, by the linux community buying a uefi secure boot key
[20:34] <adrianrly> rikietje, can you please double check if you typed this command correctly?: nano ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[20:34] <D4rkH4nd> Tex_Nick: Win 8 is win7 with glitery stuff on it and it kinda laim
[20:35] <L3top> pyguy... do you have your onboard card disabled? (me would expect it to show up in lspci | grep VGA if it was a problem... but still)
[20:35] <rikietje> adrianrly: retyped it and now i see lines
[20:35] <aristidesfl> I don't have a graphic environment configured on that machine
[20:35] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I don't have a graphic environment configured on that machine
[20:35] <aristidesfl> I've tried the safe mode
[20:35] <rikietje> adrianrly: editing it thanks standby please
[20:36] <miraj> Tex_Nick, but they haven't bought the secure boot key yet, and evil emporer MS might say no
[20:36] <aristidesfl> and drop a root shell
[20:36] <aristidesfl> but it only allows the fs to be read, not written
[20:36] <adrianrly> rikietje, ok. You will have to relogin for the changes to have effect.
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: im sorry i didn't get the question =(
[20:36] <D4rkH4nd> miraj: EPIC that is now how i will referr to MS lol
[20:36] <Tex_Nick> miraj : yeah i've seen some chatter on the web about that ... one solution proposed obtaining a license from Micro$oft :( lol
[20:36] <SolarisBoy> ill scroll up some
[20:37] <PyGuy> I dunno. I'm semi-new to Linux in general (using Ubuntu for a few months). Like I said, I wouldn't mind a clean install if I knew how to fix the resolution after apt-getting nvidia-current
[20:37] <drm> So, you guys now how you can make a bootable USB for linux?
[20:37] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I don't have a prompt or a guy on my box
[20:37] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: yep, i haven't had any problems really, i don't think it's a problem at all, but then i'm running a pre-release as well (which should be final, provided by my uni). I think win 8 is ok, it's faster than win 7 but the whole "apps" thing is kinda retarded, also, it's less user friendly than win 7 so i think it will be a flop, but it's fine to use for a poweruser/someone experienced
[20:37] <aristidesfl> it's black
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: okies what is that you desire to do?
[20:37] <xangua> drm: you have the instructions at ubuntu.com
[20:37] <sourav> hey guys i change my dns to opendns via resolv.conf but after reboot resolv.conf gets empty and i have to manually enter dns again any fix so that resolv.conf stays to opendns
[20:37] <drm> anyone, i'm having a bit of difficulty making a partition on there. i want part of the flash drive for ubuntu, the other for regular storage
[20:37] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, if you need to update firmware use firmware-extract from the software center
[20:37] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy disable ufw
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: 'sudo ufw disable'
[20:38] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy I don't have a prompt
[20:38] <designbybeck> drm http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:38] <drm> xangua: i want to make a partition on there, and flipping the removable bit(making it look like hdd) doesn't work
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: are you talking someone through it thats at the console?
[20:38] <Tex_Nick> Barbaren : hey ... thanks for the feedback on that ^5
[20:38] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy no
[20:38] <aristidesfl> I have the computer with me
[20:38] <drm> xangua I WANT TO MAKE A PARTITION. I know what the instructions say, lol, I just need help making the partition..
[20:38] <rikietje> adrianrly: okay rebooting
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: okay.. and what is it that you see on the screen?
[20:39] <Barbaren> Tex_Nick: np
[20:39] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy black
[20:39] <aristidesfl> unless I bring grub
[20:39] <aristidesfl> and select the safe boot
[20:39] <adrianrly> rikietje, don't reboot. Just logout then login.
[20:39] <L3top> ok.. PyGuy lets try this... please give me the output of this:     lspci | grep ' VGA ' | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#${tok1}))":"$((16#${tok2}))":"$((16#${tok3}))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done
[20:39] <ejo> Hello.  Like many (it appears) I am finding that the bootable stick created by "startup disk creator" on one 12.10 machine is not actually bootable by another machine that I am trying to upgrade.  What can I do about this?
[20:39] <aristidesfl> which gives me a menu
[20:39] <sourav> resolv.conf changes after reboot any fix for this
[20:39] <aristidesfl> there is an option to open a console
[20:40] <PyGuy> 1:0:0
[20:40] <ejo> I have of course set the boot priorities properly in the BIOS.  But the error I get is "This is not a bootable disk."
[20:40] <aristidesfl> but the fs is mounted read only
[20:40] <miraj> sourav> you can set the file permissions so it can't change?
[20:40] <sourav> can u guide me i don't use network manager
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> sourav: addthe name server in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[20:41] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy ?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> scruff: same format as /etc/resolv.conf   with:  nameserver 8.8.8.8
[20:42] <rvgate> How do i uninstall a previous installed webapp...
[20:42] <willdabeast> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP Pavilion dv4 laptop but as soon as I click Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black and doesn't do anything. Any thoughts? I assume it's video card issues
[20:42] <xangua> !usb | drm
[20:42] <L3top> PyGuy: please add the following line to your xorg.conf under Section "Device":         BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
[20:43] <sourav> hey this file is empty /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[20:43] <xangua> sourav: are you trying to change your dns¿
[20:43] <sourav> yea
[20:43] <PyGuy> like at the bottom?
[20:43] <SolarisBoy> lol
[20:43]  * L3top will lick this if it kills him...
[20:43] <L3top> let me look again PyGuy
[20:43] <L3top> yes PyGuy
[20:44] <ghabit> help - cannot cp files from ntfs disk - something like 'cannot perform "stat" for /media/e/blah.conf
[20:44] <ghabit> How to solve this?
[20:44] <xangua> sourav: just use the network manager to do it for the network youare using; or if you wanna do it globaly http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ -just use gksu instead of sudo for graphical apps-
[20:44] <willdabeast> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP Pavilion dv4 laptop but as soon as I click Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black and doesn't do anything. Any thoughts? I assume it's video card issues
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: when is the last time you rebooted this? firewalls shouldn't halt boot - they may halt network activity - switch to the console - emergency shell, safe boot or whatever and try from there
[20:45] <scouts> hi
[20:45] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy the boot isn't being alted
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> so what exactly is the problem?
[20:45] <Lockscreen> someone here uses voyager linux?
[20:45] <aristidesfl> the graphic interface was disabled a long time ago
[20:45] <SolarisBoy> so why can't you type at a screen?
[20:45] <scouts> hi t
[20:45] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy the only way to access is via ssh
[20:45] <mangozy> sourav set your network manager to automatically detect settings
[20:46] <sourav> guys i have adsl pppoe if i setup a conn via network manager i cannot open some websites brwosing too slow when i use pppoeconf all good can u tell me what is the problem having this problem since ubuntu 11.10 am using 12.10 now same problem
[20:46] <PyGuy> L3top: how do change the file as root? It's not letting me do so in the x11 folder
[20:46] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you get it working properly
[20:46] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy xorg is being started, but nothing else
[20:46] <Froward> Hey, ubuntu developer people.. thanks for fixing the bug that delayed my sound volume adjustments by a few minutes :)
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> just because the graphics aren't on doesn't mean you can't plugik a keyboard/mouse
[20:46] <nishttal2> so it seems Ubuntu is sending the display output to the GPU card also installed on the system.. i want it to always send output to the onbaord vga slot
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: have you tried the alternate tty's?
[20:46] <SushiDude> Is quantal-backports supposed to be enabled by default?
[20:46] <rikietje> adrianrly: hey, its not working unfortunately when i reboot the locations are reset
[20:46] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy how can I try the alternate tty's?
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: ALT+SHIFT+F1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc
[20:46] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: no  lol     I am re-installing the complete Ubuntu OS and will run those scripts from a fresh installation
[20:46] <rp> yo
[20:46] <scouts__>  /newname
[20:46] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: hope it works
[20:46] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy going to try that
[20:46] <SolarisBoy> you just need to try one - for instance ALT+SHIFT+F1
[20:47] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: ok
[20:47] <ThothCastel> thanks a lot for your help anyway
[20:47] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, did you see the website i pasted
[20:47] <BarneyTheCarnivo> hey guys
[20:47] <ThothCastel> wethepeople thanks a lot for your help anyway
[20:47] <tamati> sup
[20:47] <WeThePeople> np
[20:47] <rp> sup
[20:47] <scouts__> hi
[20:47] <oneadvent> can anyone tell me what version gimp is on 12.10?
[20:47] <BarneyTheCarnivo> where r u guys?
[20:47] <minimec> willdabeast: is that a intel/ati or intel/nvidia dual GPU system?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> !info gimp quantal
[20:47] <SolarisBoy> it should bring you to a another blackish login screen where you can put in the username/password - then you can disable ufw from there- you probably also want to find out where the other iptables rules are set
[20:47] <SushiDude> oneadvent, let me check, I just installed it
[20:47] <ThothCastel> yes, I saw it, read it all tried to issue those commands    and it didn't work
[20:47] <scouts__> christchurch
[20:47] <oneadvent> thanks SushiDude
[20:47] <rikietje> adrianrly: are you there?
[20:47] <scouts> Hello
[20:48] <rp> do you like pie?
[20:48] <SushiDude> oneadvent, 2.8.2
[20:48] <oneadvent> alrighty thanks!
[20:48] <WeThePeople> anyone know how to fix overlapping partitions
[20:48] <tamati> do any of you play minecraft
[20:48] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: biggest thing is and it got me in the past always enable your access ports on the fw before enable - the people who setup iptables before most likely did this
[20:48] <willdabeast> minimec I think I just got it, I'll ask you in a second, I'm just using nomodeset at the install grub now. Working so far :).
[20:48] <rp> minecraft is epic
[20:49] <L3top> PyGuy: what are you using as an editor?
[20:49] <miraj> WeThePeople, that's bad. Only solution is delete the second partition in the overlap
[20:49] <L3top> PyGuy: sorry for the slow reply... doing a lot on my end too.
[20:49] <rikietje> adrianrly: Hello iḿ back it doesnt work it resets the locations on boot
[20:49] <PyGuy> L3top: Gedit. It's alright, I totally understand
[20:49] <L3top> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:49] <L3top> !gksudo | PyGuy
[20:50] <scouts> hi
[20:50] <WeThePeople> miraj, gparted see the entire hdd as unallocated, i dual boot xp and lucid
[20:50] <WeThePeople> lol
[20:50] <tamati> who like jaffa cake
[20:50] <adrianrly> rikietje, so the file looks like before you started editing it ?
[20:50] <rikietje> adrianrly: yes
[20:50] <rikietje> adrianrly: after rebooting ofc
[20:51] <miraj> <WeThePeople, something is very wrong if you've got two os's install and hparted thinks the whole drive is unallocated
[20:51] <tamati> where are you from
[20:51] <PyGuy> Alrighty, I edited the conf file. Now what?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: is the NTFS partition healthy?
[20:51] <scouts__> hello
[20:51] <L3top> !ot | tamati  there are too many people in here to chitchat
[20:51] <WeThePeople> miraj, not really..
[20:52] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, some bad sectors
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: may be why
[20:52] <L3top> now we stop lightdm and modprobe nvidia-current again PyGuy
[20:52] <WeThePeople> yep
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: I'd make sure your backups are up to date
[20:52] <L3top> PyGuy: or just reboot
[20:54] <JasonF> I just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, and since then, gnome-shell won't start. Well, it'll start, but it's not working.
[20:54] <JasonF> I'm mainly curious where the logs are for gnome-shell, so I can try to figure out the problem
[20:55] <econdudeawesome> what is the name of hte SMART disk checker? I need to install it from the repos.
[20:55] <L3top> JasonF: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:55] <obscurant1st> I would like to mount a vdi file which mac file system in it
[20:55] <JasonF> L3top: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 02)
[20:55] <obscurant1st> As of now I have mounted it using qemu
[20:55] <JasonF> L3top: in 12.04, everything worked -- including hot plugging and unplugging of external monitors on my displayport
[20:55] <w3p5t3r> xubuntu Desktop Adjustment defaults need...how can i reset my settings? Saturation and Brightness :/
[20:55] <obscurant1st> but the mounted partition just has one file which I don't know what to do, can someone please help me?
[20:55] <rikietje> adrianrly: hello?
[20:55] <JasonF> L3top: even if you can point me to the logs for gnome-shell, I'll try to track it down...
[20:56] <adrianrly> rikietje, ok. Do this then. Delete the Documents folder(be sure to copy all your stuff, if any, to another place) then type this: ln -s /media/storage/mijn documenten /home/cp/Documents
[20:56] <econdudeawesome> what is the name of the SMART disk checker? I need to install it from the repos.
[20:56] <bikedude880> Anyone know when ATI proprietary drivers will show in 12.10?
[20:56] <ghabit> how to decrease avatar sire on empathy?
[20:56] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: good or bad?
[20:57] <L3top> JasonF logs are in /var/log but I would look more at Xorg.0.log
[20:57] <adrianrly> rikietje, replace cp with your username
[20:57] <SolarisBoy> econdudeawesome: smartd?
[20:57] <synaesthetik> I just installed 32bit Ubuntu on my mac, but this macbook is made to run a 64bit kernel, should I install 64 bit Ubuntu instead?
[20:57] <L3top> bikedude880: might not ever... ATI dropped support for a whole slew of cards with their new drivers... but it is my understanding they are trying to add tehm back
[20:58] <synaesthetik> also, how would I go about updating from 32 bit Ubuntu to 64?
[20:58] <obscurant1st> synaesthetik: you probabaly don't want to install 64 bit ubuntu
[20:58] <rikietje> adrianrly: target is not a directory =(
[20:58] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, what do you make of this, i cant read this stuff.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290376/
[20:58] <bikedude880> L3top: Thanks
[20:58] <xangua> synaesthetik: fresh install
[20:58] <SolarisBoy> its always these hw vendor companies its rarely the os
[20:58] <econdudeawesome> SolarisBoy: is that the package name or the program name? I'm on an ubuntu minimal install and can't recall what that's called
[20:58] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople:   I got this error:  Err http://extras.ubuntu.com precise/main Sources
[20:58] <ThothCastel> 504 Gateway Time-out [IP: 91.189.92.152 80]
[20:58] <synaesthetik> why not obscurant1st ?
[20:58] <L3top> bikedude880: drop them a line in the forum and tell them how you feel
[20:58] <kurtwp_> synaesthetik: ah it does not matter - I am running 32bit on a 64bit AMD - I find the 32bit to be more stable
[20:58] <JasonF> L3top: there's nothing interesting in the xorg log, and I know the generic log location -- was curious if gnome-shell had anything useful to see other than the console output of gnome-shell --replace (which loads, and doesn't work, but I recover my system in another console with unity --replace)
[20:58] <adrianrly> rikietje, because you didn't get the paths right.
[20:58] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople:    I had gotten that one before
[20:58] <synaesthetik> oh ok
[20:58] <w3p5t3r> okay, can anybody read me? iam not sure because no answer 3 Questions long :)
[20:58] <ThothCastel> :S
[20:59] <synaesthetik> well I just want OpenGL 4 support so I can play with the "new" GLSL
[20:59] <rikietje> adrianrly: what do you mean?
[20:59] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, 504 is a server issue
[20:59] <SolarisBoy> econdudeawesome: looks like the package name is smartmontools
[20:59] <obscurant1st> synaesthetik: first rule says if you've got a system which is working no need to change it. And with 64 bit you won't find much difference anyway
[20:59] <synaesthetik> does ubuntu have support for opengl4?
[20:59] <gordonjcp> !patience | w3p5t3r
[20:59] <Galvatron> synaesthetik: The only way is to reinstall the system
[20:59] <anhday> man, ubuntu is awesome :)
[20:59] <obscurant1st> also it will be hjarder to get applications if you tryout lots of apps!
[20:59] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: what to do ?
[20:59] <L3top> JasonF: If there is, I am unfamiliar with it... I use KDE so can't look.
[20:59] <synaesthetik> Okay I will keep it at 32 bit. it runs pretty damn smoothly already
[20:59] <econdudeawesome> SolarisBoy: does that include the gui?
[20:59] <SolarisBoy> econdudeawesome: try 'apt-cache show smartmontools'
[20:59] <w3p5t3r> okay :) thx for fedback....i wait and ask later
[20:59] <nishttal2> does anyone know what this is and how to fix.. "Missing required library libglut.so"
[21:00] <SolarisBoy> i didn't know they had a gui...
[21:00] <synaesthetik> smoother than mountain lion
[21:00] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E504.html
[21:00]  * SolarisBoy hates guis
[21:00] <w3p5t3r> btw pm is also a option
[21:00] <obscurant1st> so anyone know how to mount vdi with a mac file system?
[21:00] <econdudeawesome> SolarisBoy: I understand. It' only putting it on temporarily though.
[21:00] <miraj>  do macbooks have the 32bit 4gb ram limit?
[21:00] <JasonF> L3top: Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's not. I just got it to crash by adding --g-fatal-warnings, so I'm going to run a backtrace on the core file and see if anything interesting comes out
[21:00] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver | JasonF this might help
[21:00] <SolarisBoy> econdudeawesome: not sure truthfully lets see
[21:01] <L3top> ok JasonF... let me know if you figure something interesting out.
[21:01] <w3p5t3r> !patients and smile looks better ;)
[21:01] <synaesthetik> I don't think mine does miraj
[21:01] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: ok...   nothing to do then, right?   lolol      Thanks a lot anyway
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: does mount do it?
[21:01] <w3p5t3r> lol
[21:01] <SolarisBoy> econdudeawesome: this probably isn't it but there is a seconf package a notifier app smart-notifier
[21:01] <JasonF> L3top: aight, I'll restart X and see if that helps.
[21:01] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy other tty's didn't work
[21:01] <econdudeawesome> SolarisBoy: this looks like it might work, but not the standard tool. Hmm, I'll dig around a little more
[21:01] <Galvatron> JasonF: Upgrading to a just released version isn't very wise. I have 12.10 besides 12.04 and I see huw many bugs it has.
[21:02] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip: yes actually I have mounted it wwith qemu tool. But now I have a directory with a file in it. I don't know what to do with that file! :/
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: im extremely sorry
[21:02] <saurabh_> L3top, I installed amd 12.9 beta drivers and it broke the system again. no unity, no top bar, no title bar and close, minimize buttons
[21:02] <user2222> Can someone recommend me an ircshell provider?
[21:03] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: i said CTRL+ALT+F1 etc
[21:03] <kenalex> hello
[21:03] <Galvatron> JasonF: I recommend reinstalling 12.04 and testing 12.10 on a separate partition.
[21:03] <SolarisBoy> i said the wrong combo ;< really sorry dont kill me bro..
[21:03] <smngreenberg> Hi everyone, I'm trying to setup sql server on an ubuntu box over ssh and I've got through all of the setup but I'm running into a problem when trying to connect to port 3306. When I try to telnet, even from the box itself, it says that the connection is rejected.
[21:03] <aristidesfl> [21:01:44] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if they are where ufw expects them to be (iptables rules) then you can type ufw enable
[21:04] <bekks> smngreenberg: Expected behaviour.
[21:04] <aristidesfl> [21:01:44] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: if they are where ufw expects them to be (iptables rules) then you can type ufw enable
[21:04] <gordonjcp> smngreenberg: check that it's actually running a network socket
[21:04] <aristidesfl> you said sift + alt
[21:04] <JasonF> L3top++ That fixed my issue
[21:04] <bekks> smngreenberg: You have to configure the mysql server to accept connections from other hosts.
[21:04] <kenalex> do you guys know of any beginners book on ubuntu server ?
[21:04] <L3top> !yay | JasonF
[21:04] <JasonF> Galvatron: I know it's scary, but I am pretty good at troubleshooting most things, so I try to adopt early
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: what is the file for exactly?
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> aristidesfl: just do CTRL+ALT+F1 and try like i said
[21:05] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy anyway I used the root shell and remounted the fs with rw
[21:05] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip: I didn't get your question I am sorry? Which file?
[21:05] <aristidesfl> It's good now thanks
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> great
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> how did a firewall entry make ur disk go ro is a mystery but w/e
[21:06] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy it didn't
[21:06] <aristidesfl> SolarisBoy it's the failsafe root shell
[21:06] <aristidesfl> I think it's ubuntu's
[21:06] <smngreenberg> bekks: I've already done that (pretty sure) by creating a DB user and giving it access
[21:06] <aristidesfl> it mounts the fs in ro
[21:06] <Galvatron> JasonF: I have nothing against early-adopting KDE, but Unity's development cycle is a sinusoid with lots of stuff going down between stable releases.
[21:06] <SolarisBoy> i wish you would have said that earlier
[21:06] <JasonF> Galvatron: I use gnome-shell, not unity.
[21:07] <bekks> smngreenberg: That has entirely nothing to do with what I told you :)
[21:07] <SolarisBoy> sudo mount -o remount,rw / would have worked.. and fast..
[21:07] <Galvatron> OK
[21:07] <SolarisBoy> and as stated your biggest issue isn't enabling ufw it's not allowing ssh
[21:07] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: DUUUUDEEE!!   It's working!!!!!
[21:07] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, what did you do>
[21:07] <WeThePeople> ?
[21:07] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: thanks a lot for the script and patience!
[21:07] <SolarisBoy> if you try ufw allow ssh and then enable it it would have been fine
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: the file you mounted....
[21:08] <Barna> identify via /msg NickServ identify riopiavu
[21:08] <smngreenberg> bekks: the mySQL commands for granting remote access? Can you explain further/point me in the right direction then?
[21:08] <SolarisBoy> you just typed ufw enable, what i was saying was - if you know your rules will be read by ufw and work enable it - you did that.. so you got locked out
[21:08] <bekks> Barna: Change your password please.
[21:08] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, np
[21:08] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip: That file is a vdi file with mac filesystem. I need to get access to a file from that partition very badly.
[21:08] <SolarisBoy> /etc/ufw/ <--- for the record ufw commands most likely write well formatted iptables rules to files here
[21:08] <bikedude880> lol
[21:08] <bekks> smngreenberg: There are NO commands. You have to CONFIGURE the mysql server in its configuration file.
[21:08] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople: I remember I did the installation a couple of years ago for an earlier version of ubuntu...   it was a lot simpler though
[21:09] <ThothCastel> basically, this time, I simple run your scripts just as you said,  and ignored that 504 error
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: well you said it was mounted, so you can access the data via the mount point
[21:09] <SolarisBoy> isn't a vdi a virtual machine file?
[21:09] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, yeah i bet something was conflicting
[21:09] <ThothCastel> then I typed the following as I used to type 2 years ago:
[21:09] <Barna> y
[21:09] <ThothCastel> sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb
[21:09] <ThothCastel> and
[21:09] <ThothCastel> sudo modprobe b43
[21:10] <ThothCastel> I think it is to initiate the driver    is it?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-mount-virtualbox-drive-image-vdi-in-ubuntu-12-1012-04.html   seems it uses vdfuse to mount it
[21:10] <bobweaver> mod = moduels (driver) prob = add to kernel ?
[21:10] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip: yeah thats what! :( The mounted partition just has one file. I guess its some other kind of filesystem. I tried my luck using hfsplus but no use
[21:10] <ThothCastel> now, I remember that each time I switch the computer on I need to run those two modprobe commands, is there a way to automate that?    like a batch file that runs when the OS loads ?
[21:11] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, modprobe = mode probe, it looks for the firmware
[21:11] <ThothCastel> WeThePeople:
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> obscurant1st: its how you can mount the vdi, you could ask in #vbox maybe
[21:11] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  add to /etc/moduels
[21:11] <bekks> WeThePeople: Wrong.
[21:11] <bulletrulz> is ubuntuforums.com the official ubuntu forum?
[21:11] <bekks> WeThePeople: modprobe = module probe
[21:11] <ThothCastel> I see...
[21:11] <bekks> WeThePeople: And the module loaded takes care of the firmware, not that command.
[21:11] <ThothCastel> bobweaver: how can I add it to the /etc/moduels ?
[21:12] <bekks> WeThePeople: In fact, there is no way to force the loading of firmware.
[21:12] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip: I tried that link you gave me. What happens is, when I do the last step, it shows me an error saying I need to specify the partition type!
[21:12] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  do a cat /etc/modules
[21:12] <WeThePeople> thothcastel, what bekks said..lol
[21:12] <obscurant1st> ActionParsnip: ok, I will try with them then. :)
[21:13] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  meaning that you just add the mods that you want to boot into that file line by line like ssb or b43  ect IF THEY ARE NOT WORKING that is what ssb job is though
[21:13] <ThothCastel> bobweaver: very nice!  thanks!
[21:13] <ThothCastel> ok, and how can I edit the /etc/modules
[21:13] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  file bug I would for ssb or b43
[21:13] <bulletrulz> is ubuntuforums.com the official ubuntu forum?
[21:14] <SuperLag> Nice. An Ubuntu ISO that won't fit on a 700MB CD.
[21:14] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  gksudo getit <name of file >
[21:14] <bekks> bobweaver: ssb will never ever take care of a module not working. ssb is part of the b43 chipset infrastructure and a dependency of the b43 driver/module.
[21:14] <saurabh_> L3top: the amd 12.9 beta drivers didn't work with ubuntu 12.10 so I switched back to open source drivers
[21:14] <bobweaver> bekks,  I know that is ssb job to start it at start up
[21:14] <ThothCastel> bobweaver: right,  and the sudo modprobe - b43 ssb   command would be in a text file, right?
[21:14] <bekks> bobweaver: Actually, thats not true. :)
[21:14] <bekks> ThothCastel: No.
[21:14] <L3top> worth the shot saurabh_. Might try and see if you can run 12.5
[21:14] <saurabh_> L3top: I will try 12.6 drivers in the morning, its almost 3 am here
[21:15] <L3top> saurabh_: 12.6 is the problem
[21:15] <bobweaver> bekks,  can you explain what ssb job is then for me ?
[21:15] <L3top> saurabh_: 12.04 is on 12.4
[21:15] <saurabh_> L3top: is there 12.5 also?
[21:15] <bekks> ThothCastel: one line: "ssb" next line: "b43" - or just the "b43" which will make the ssb load too.
[21:15] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  nope just b43
[21:16] <ThothCastel> are b43 and ssb  the <file name>    in this command ?    gksudo getit <name of file >
[21:16] <bobweaver> no ThothCastel  the file name would be "/etc/modules"
[21:16] <saurabh_> L3top, I installed 12.6 drivers on ubuntu 12.04 from amd site and it ran fine
[21:17] <bobweaver> that is the file you want to add one line to and that line should be b43 then save check again for spelling and save again and reboot to test
[21:17] <saurabh_> L3top: I think 12.8 and 12.9 are problems
[21:17] <bekks> bobweaver: ssb is the module for a specific part of the chipset. It has nothing to do with forcing the load of b43.
[21:17] <bobweaver> ThothCastel,  ^^
[21:17] <balazs> can anyone recommend a printer and scanner that works out of the box with Ubuntu ?
[21:18] <balazs> 12.04
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> balazs: HP stuff works great
[21:18] <ThothCastel> so if I want to add b43 to the /etc/modules   then, gksudo getit /etc/modules       ????
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> balazs: the HPLIP project is fantastic
[21:18] <saurabh_> L3top: anyways, I will test in the morning and give back the feedback
[21:18] <bobweaver> bekks,  Info about cores is printed by ssb when the driver finds a board; type "dmesg" to see it. If you are unsure or don't know what we are talking about here, get both of the firmwares and both b43 and b43legacy and the kernel autoloader will automatically load the correct driver for your device.
[21:18] <balazs> ActionParsnip: I have an HP one now and the scanning software dumps core all the time :(
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: echo b43 | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[21:19] <bobweaver> bekks,  from the b43 page
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | balazs
[21:19] <bekks> bobweaver: Which has nothing to do with ssb. I have a laptop that automatically loads the b43 module, without the ssb module. So following your theory, that would be impossible.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> balazs: or look on amazon etc, people usually add in reviews if it worked on ubuntu etc in reviews
[21:20] <ellorenz> hi to all
[21:20] <bobweaver> bekks,  so you are right and I am wrong and thanks but I am still unsure. I guess that the kerenl can not see ssb ?
[21:20] <ellorenz> i surrend on Access point with ubuntu to connect my phone with wirless
[21:20] <bekks> bobweaver: Or the chipset does not implement the ssb specific stuff.
[21:20] <bobweaver> OH
[21:21] <bobweaver> thanks bekks  !
[21:21] <bobweaver> I totally see now
[21:21] <bobweaver> bekks,  like it say's On 09/09/2010, Broadcom released an open driver for their SSB-less chipsets. However, it only supported three chips blah blah blah
[21:22] <ThothCastel> thanks bobweaver
[21:23] <PyGuy> Alright, so a command I typed completely locked me from my computer, so I decided to freshly install Ubuntu 12.10 again and then apt-get nvidia-current, and I'm having the same resolution problems and also, Unity is invisible
[21:24] <bekks> bobweaver: So the caveat is, that there ARE chipsets that dont have SSB, and thus SSB cant be necessary in general to magically make b43 work :)
[21:25] <PyGuy> So I need help fixing my resolution, then getting Unity back
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: want to try my xorg.conf file, may help
[21:26] <bobweaver> correct bekks  thanks again for helping me learn something new. My wireless mentor left me of to a stray on that one lol
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: what nvidia chip are you using?
[21:26] <PyGuy> I'm using an nvidia geforce gtx560
[21:27] <Guest63021> hi can anyone please please help. I've plugged my tv into my hdmi port but i'm not getting any output from my pc which is running kubuntu 12.10 - xrandr doesn't show the display and not sure how to get this working. My graphics are integrated intel GMA x4500
[21:27] <Guest63021> thanks for any help at all getting this to work
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current quantal
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> cool
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf
[21:29] <PyGuy> Alright, now what's next?
[21:29] <WeThePeople> what is a logical order here.. dev sys proc
[21:29] <Fluggs> hi
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: reboot to test, if you get no desktop just drop to root recovery mode and rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf then reboot
[21:29] <Fluggs> my ccsm is a bit empty, i think
[21:29] <Fluggs> for example, wobbly windows and the cube are missing
[21:30] <Fluggs> how can that be?
[21:30] <szal> 304? there must be a newer version available via PPA or so, if the version number for Windows is any indication..
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: ccsm isn't really to be used, its known to cause issues
[21:30] <PyGuy> alright
[21:30] <bekks> szal: It isnt, in fact. :)
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:30] <Fluggs> quantal
[21:31] <TheSheep> Hello there. So I upgraded to Quantal today, and gvim stopped working -- it seems to work alright, but it doesn't display any characters, just blank window. The characters sometimes appear when I select text.
[21:31] <Fluggs> ActionParsnip: it seems that very many things in ccsm are missing, its a bit empty
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/desktop-cube-has-just-been-resurrected-natty-narwhal-doesnt-break-unity-anymore
[21:32] <PyGuy> So the conf file didn't help after a reboot. What do I have to do again?
[21:32] <Fluggs> ActionParsnip: on my desktop (12.04), i have the cube
[21:33] <Fluggs> here on my notebook, it isnt available
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: do you have all the compiz plugin packages installed?
[21:33] <Fluggs> uhm, i dont know
[21:33] <Fluggs> i only installed the ccsm
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf     will get you back to defaults
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: do you use a switchable video chip?
[21:33] <Bigmac3> Hi
[21:33] <Bigmac3> I from NZ
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> PyGuy: Intel + nvidia?
[21:34] <PyGuy> ActionParsnip: I dunno.
[21:35] <Fluggs> ActionParsnip: are there any compiz packages that i can install?
[21:35] <crisken> ciaooo
[21:35] <crisken> !list
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: apt-cache search compiz | grep plug
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: then run:  dpkg -l | grep compiz | grep plug    see what is different
[21:36] <blz> How do I connect to a samba share on the network that requires a login?
[21:37] <dartos> Can anyone tell me how to make my screen have a bigger virtual resollution that I can pan around in?
[21:37] <saurabh_> L3top: I have also tried 12.4 amd drivers on ubuntu 12.10 and they didn't work either
[21:38] <saurabh_> L3top: I m gonna switch back to ubuntu 12.04 now
[21:38] <PyGuy> Same here
[21:39] <Fluggs> ActionParsnip: ahh, okay, the package compiz-plugins was missing
[21:39] <blz> How do I connect to a samba share on the network that requires a login through nautilus?   All I see is the "mount" option
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: there you go :)
[21:40] <Fluggs> there was a package compiz-plugins-defaults installed, i think that was a kinda incomplete plugin collection
[21:40] <Fluggs> thanks :)
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Fluggs: not something I've used in a long time, but it made sense
[21:40]  * ActionParsnip hates compiz
[21:41] <un1xfrx> fsck u
[21:42] <dartos> Can anyone tell me how to make my screen have a bigger virtual resollution that I can pan around in?
[21:44] <scouts> hi
[21:44] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : LOL on compiz ;-)
[21:44] <scouts> wat time
[21:46] <dartos> Can anyone tell me how to make my screen have a bigger virtual resollution that I can pan around in?
[21:47] <L3top> dartos: in xorg.conf you can set virtual resolution... there are some rules.
[21:49] <ThothCastel> I have my emails setup in a windows machine and have the profile folder from the app data with all the  emails settings already set up
[21:49] <WeThePeople> locate or find cant seem to locate/find a folder, what command do i type to do this?
[21:49] <ThothCastel> I would like to move those profiles to my ubuntu machine...   where are the profile settings are  located in the ubuntu machine?  thunderbird
[21:49] <jakubo> hi, can anyone help me with grub? it seems my hardware supported raid array is not available in the device.map
[21:50] <dartos> Can anyone tell me how to make my screen have a bigger virtual resollution that I can pan around in?
[21:50] <ardchoille> WeThePeople: find /path -name *name*  # if that doesn't find it it probably doesn't exist
[21:50] <dartos> Does anyone actually get help on this channel?
[21:50] <L3top> dartos: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[21:50] <ardchoille> dartos: yes :)
[21:51] <L3top> dartos: I have replied to both requests... it is complicated. You need to understand what and why you are doing it. There was a new release yesterday, I can't walk you through it.
[21:51] <SushiDude> Hi, I am experiencing some weird audio issues with vlc
[21:51] <L3top> can you provide more detail SushiDude
[21:52] <dartos> L3top: Sorry for getting mad then. I know sort of. I sent the command xrandr --output default --panning 1280x720
[21:52] <dartos> L3top: I also made a new xrandr mode and added it
[21:52] <puff> I'm doing "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver", it wants to upgrade a zillion packages.  I've backed everything up, so worst-case scenario I'm covered. I'm at the y/n/q prompt, any last thought sbefore I hit y?
[21:52] <L3top> What is your native resolution?
[21:52] <dartos> L3top: 1024x600
[21:52] <helo> should fglrx require kernel headers, so the kernel module is built?
[21:53] <helo> i installed 12.10 last night, and it appears not to, resulting in a broken setup
[21:53] <L3top> dartos: that isn't going to be big enough to do much in... check this specifically http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#Summing_up
[21:53] <Heebie2> Hi. I'm trying to figure out how big a partition I need to have my Ubuntu 12.04 system installed on.  Can anyone tell me how big your install is with reasonable features, minus your home directory's contents?
[21:53] <ardchoille> puff: several folks here have told me to avoid using aptitude
[21:53] <MyersG> I need help with a sound problem!
[21:53] <dartos> L3top: i am trying to play FTL it needs 1280x720 apparently
[21:53] <MyersG> I am using ubuntu 12.10
[21:53] <helo> Heebie2: it will slowly grow over time as you download more updates, without some maintenance
[21:53] <puff> ardchoille: Ah, okay, apt-get isntead?
[21:54] <ardchoille> puff: I always use apt-get, it's never failed me
[21:54] <puff> ardchoille: Cool 'nuff.
[21:54] <SushiDude> It is kind of hard to explain, but it stutters and crackles a lot. I am currently on Ubuntu 12.10 with all the default VLC preferences. I am NOT having audio issue with anything else like Rhythmbox.
[21:54] <willdabeast> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP Pavilion dv4 laptop but as soon as I click Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black and doesn't do anything. Any thoughts? I assume it's video card issues
[21:54] <helo> Heebie2: i was on a 6GB install for a while, which became a little cramped sooner than i would have preferred
[21:54] <doomlord> can unity be setup to show app-windows from *all* desktops when you click its icon in the taskbar
[21:54] <puff> ardchoille: Hm, but apt-get doesn't supprot safe-upgrade.
[21:54] <L3top> keep in mind dartos if you have an xorg.conf that is going to override you barking at xrandr for the most part.
[21:54] <MyersG> It is saying  Dummy output in the sound settings
[21:54] <Heebie2> I know it will grow.  I want a baseline to go by. I'll probably move some stuff off elsewhere over time.  I just don't want to waste space on my SSD's  Would 16G be enough to last a while? or 12G?  I really don't want to go to 32G
[21:54] <dartos> L3top: well while i look at this ill just tell u. when I try changing to the 1280x720 mode I get an error something about badctrc number
[21:54] <doomlord> q2 can unity do a "scale" effect showing all windows from all desktops
[21:54] <helo> Heebie2: i'd recommend 15-20GB or so if you can spare it
[21:55] <ardchoille> puff: you going from 12.04 to 12.10?
[21:55] <Heebie2> 16 sounds good to me then. Thanks helo :)
[21:55] <scouts_> hi
[21:55] <helo> Heebie2: yeah, 16GB is probably good without going crazy
[21:55] <willdabeast> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP Pavilion dv4 laptop but as soon as I click Install Ubuntu, the screen turns black and doesn't do anything. Any thoughts? I assume it's video card issues
[21:55] <dartos> L3top: configure ctrc 0 failed
[21:55] <MyersG> can someone help me?
[21:55] <dartos> is what it says
[21:55] <L3top> ask and find out MyersG
[21:55] <ThothCastel> how to view hidden folders ?  thunderbird profile folder
[21:56] <jcrza> I can't figured out how to use juju
[21:56] <jcrza> I try bootstraping it and it just says ERROR SSH authorized/public key not found
[21:56] <ardchoille> ThothCastel: in nautilus: CTRL+h
[21:56] <D4rkH4nd> How to make a usb boot from iso ? gnome3
[21:56] <jcrza> I tried ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 2048 and picked ssh for my key filename and it still wont work
[21:56] <L3top> !nomodeset | willdabeast
[21:56] <SushiDude> Also for some reason my desktop thinks it has a battery...
[21:56] <MyersG> My sound settings is saying Dummy Output, and I have no sound. I upgraded to 12.10 when it started.
[21:56] <jcrza> Has anyone been able to get juju working? :\
[21:57] <dartos> L3top: oh so should i try turning off X then changing the mode
[21:57] <L3top> MyersG: lspci -nn | grep -i audio
[21:57] <L3top> yes dartos
[21:57] <ThothCastel> ardchoille: thank you :D     If I copy my profile from a windows machine thunderbird, and paste it on my ubuntu machine, will that work  or I will dsamage the files?
[21:57] <MyersG> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [8086:2668] (rev 03)
[21:58] <L3top> SushiDude: application specific crackling... hmmm... not sure on that...
[21:58] <ardchoille> ThothCastel: No idea, I haven't used a Windows OS in 12 years
[21:58] <L3top> MyersG: please pastebin the output of sudo aplay -l
[21:58] <dartos> L3top: well i can't mess with xrandr if X is not open
[21:58] <SushiDude> L3top, should I make a bug report?
[21:58] <MyersG> This is all it says: **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[21:58] <trism> doomlord: for q2, ccsm/Scale/Bindings/Initiate Window Picker For All Windows, it isn't set by default (the default is only super+w for only the current workspace)
[21:59] <zontar> quick question re: dmraid and grub...i attempted to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a system using a RAID 0 disk a few months back, but nothing appeared on the screen after the BIOS showed up...it was like nothing was installed in the MBR at all
[21:59] <L3top> SushiDude: My suspicion is pulse... but that is always my suspicion... of course it is usually right.
[21:59] <zontar> is there a reason for this?
[21:59] <willdabeast> L3Top thanks, but the issue right now is after installation, it doesn't even bring up a grub. I try holding down shift, still no grub... just boots into windows
[21:59] <zontar> i'm using mint 12 now and, well, it's awful but it's all that would install on this system
[22:00] <zontar> i'd like to go back to ubuntu but the broken grub was a showstopper
[22:00] <dartos> zontar: i like mint :(
[22:00] <MyersG> what should it say?
[22:00] <zontar> if it's relevant i dual boot with windows 7
[22:00] <L3top> MyersG: it should list a bunch of devices on your card... that is the problem... something is blocking your specific sound module from loading.
[22:01] <MyersG> hmm.. so how do I fix it?
[22:01] <jcrza> #juju is a ghost town.. anybody know what the deal is with the error I mentioned?
[22:01] <L3top> willdabeast: sounds like grub simply isn't installed... if you boot into a live cd I can give you a script that will help you install grub.
[22:02] <SushiDude> L3top, I just set VLC to use ALSA and it works now, thanks you.
[22:02] <willdabeast> L3top sounds good, I'll let you know when I've booted
[22:02] <L3top> 90% of the time... it works 100% of the time SushiDude ;P
[22:02] <zontar> pulse always gives me problems
[22:02] <crisken> ciao
[22:02] <zontar> i eventually stripped it out of my system and configured most of what i had to use alsa directly
[22:02] <zontar> now i just have to use the alsamixer to change volume but that's not too bad
[22:03] <rymate1234> just installed ubuntu 12.10
[22:03] <andrew_hall> new zealand
[22:03] <rymate1234> where's the additional drivers for my ati mobility radeon 4250 :(
[22:04] <L3top> rymate1234: ATI dropped support for your card.
[22:04] <jcrza> Aren't you glad you upgraded rymate? I upgraded for juju and nobody seems to know how to get it to work.
[22:04] <rymate1234> L3top, Nope
[22:04] <MyersG> So can you help me?
[22:04] <jcrza> the line-by-line instructions don't even work
[22:04] <rymate1234> Its on legacy support
[22:05] <rymate1234> jcrza, afaik the drivers need to be redone for x
[22:05] <rymate1234> meh
[22:05] <rymate1234> I accidently the rest of that sentence
[22:05] <rymate1234> *xorg 1.13
[22:05] <jcrza> You'd figure one of the main features of the OS would work out of the box
[22:05] <rymate1234> well
[22:05] <rymate1234> the drivers work
[22:05] <L3top> rymate1234: Yes. They did. They dropped support for the 2xxx-4xxx drivers. The legacy driver is the open source radeon driver you are using, and their older driver wont work with the newer xorg in quantal.
[22:05] <rymate1234> (the open source ones)
[22:06] <Kircle> I'm currently on 12.04 32bit and are wanting to move on up to 12.10 64bit. If I downloaded the image and chose to upgrade my current 32bit ubuntu installation would it work?
[22:06] <BrickViking> Is there an established commandline program I should use to burn a cd iso image?
[22:06] <willdabeast> L3Top Booting now in nomodeset
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> BrickViking, Most use a ap.
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> app*
[22:07] <zykotick9> BrickViking: i typically use growisofs to burn from terminal... there are other options as well, whatever cdrecord got renmaed to...
[22:07] <L3top> willdabeast: wget http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/export/26556/people/l3mce/grubin; chmod +x grubin; ./grubin
[22:07] <BrickViking> I'm at the commandline 95% of the time I'm not using chrome or minecraft.
[22:07] <andrew_hall> gfd
[22:07] <BrickViking> hmm. sounds like it's wodim then. Sigh.
[22:07] <willdabeast> L3top thanks :)
[22:07] <L3top> willdabeast: I am using you as a guinea pig. It works, just curious on feedback. There are other good solutions available.
[22:07] <zykotick9> BrickViking: wodim - yup that's the new name ;)
[22:08] <linux4All> hello users ubuntu
[22:08] <andrew_hall> Hello
[22:08] <linux4All> o/ andrew_hall
[22:08] <L3top> willdabeast: pm me if anything is confusing... inteded to lead you by a string.
[22:09]  * andrew_hall hit l3top with multiple super king size beds
[22:09] <willdabeast> L3top haha alright http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWyw7kJkoE&feature=related
[22:10] <rymate1234> L3top, No, they haven't. The open source radeon driver isn't a legacy driver, it is an open source alternative to fglrx. ATI has broken the 2xx, 3xxx and 4xxx cards out of the main driver and made a legacy catalyst driver. They HAVE NOT dropped support for it. They;re just being slow about it -.-
[22:10] <andrew_hall> someone else in the room im in typed the hit thing
[22:10] <andrew_hall> what does it do?
[22:12] <willdabeast> mk worked so far, rebooting L3top
[22:12] <andrew_hall> hi
[22:12] <AMDAthlon> possible to install ubuntu to nTFS?
[22:12] <k1l_> AMDAthlon: nope
[22:12] <AMDAthlon> fatt32? no?
[22:13] <mdgeorge1> hello
[22:13] <willdabeast> L3top should I leave the cd in to get the grub menu? Still no grub.
[22:13] <mdgeorge1> I use gnome-shell, and I went away for the weekend and now it segfaults on startup.  I suspect it might be caused by an update, but I don't really know
[22:13] <mdgeorge1> any suggestions?
[22:13] <L3top> willdabeast: you ran the script and selected the options, said it installed and you still have nothing?
[22:15] <BrickViking> thanks, all.
[22:15] <BrickViking> I've now got wodim tamed...
[22:15] <MyersG> Can someone please help me?
[22:15] <willdabeast> L3top selected the option as in just said yes, then it said it should reboot normally now, still nothing. One thing to note, when I installed Ubuntu, I installed it "Inside of Windows" there was no alongside option. Not sure if that matters.
[22:15] <profiler1982> system log false on logout splash screen. how to solve
[22:15] <bekks> !ask | MyersG
[22:15] <L3top> willdabeast: oh... this is a wubi install... yeah... that has no place in my script.
[22:15] <rymate1234> meh
[22:16] <willdabeast> L3top gotcha, any ideas then?
[22:16] <MyersG> I am not getting any sound! and the sound settings says: Dummy Output, Also when I plug in USB head set it works and picks it up.
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> BrickViking, How does that make you feel. ;)
[22:16] <rymate1234> Looks like I'll have to wait until an eventual update for fglrx-legacy comes along -.-
[22:17] <gesparza1>  Hi all, im trying to migrate from a raid1 (2 disks) to raid5 (3 disks) using mdadm. Is the best approach to degrade the raid 1 to use only one disk then take that degraded disk and the other disk and make a degraded raid5 from it, then finally copy the data from the degraded raid1 array to the degraded raid5 array?
[22:18] <Guest20792> hi can anyone please help get my gma x4500 integrated intel graphics driver to work with hdmi out? thanks for any help
[22:18] <Krenair> Getting HTTP 500 ISE from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[22:19] <Krenair> ... and it's gone
[22:19] <MyersG> I am not getting any sound! and the sound settings says: Dummy Output, Also when I plug in USB head set it works and picks it up.
[22:20] <bjrohanNexus> Can you hear me?
[22:20] <bekks> bjrohanNexus: No, but we can read you :)
[22:20] <Guest40316> My network card stoped to work after a 12.10 update, it's a realtek 8139D, anyone can help me? the card appear on if config but don't ping any other machine on network.
[22:20] <bjrohanNexus> LET ME YELL THEN :)
[22:20] <bjrohanNexus> First time via phone
[22:21] <jonah_> hi sorry got disconnected but my question was can anyone please help get my gma x4500 integrated intel graphics driver to work with hdmi out? thanks for any help
[22:21] <thedoor>  My network card stoped to work after a 12.10 update, it's a realtek 8139D, anyone can help me? the card appear on if config but don't ping any other machine on network, anyone? im trying to solve it since last night =(
[22:22] <bjrohanNexus> < kicks the door cloaed
[22:22] <bjrohanNexus> Closed
[22:22] <thedoor> uh?
[22:22] <bjrohanNexus> :)
[22:22] <thedoor> Lol
[22:22] <L3top> MyersG: do you have an /etc/asound.conf file? Either your driver has been blacklisted (check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf or something to that effect, and perhaps alsa-base.conf) or it some sort of alsa/pulse config is wrong, preventing it from loading... though I would expect different replies from the command earlier. Your usb headset works because it serves as its own card. also try update-pciids and reboot. If this is very new
[22:22] <L3top> equipment that is.
[22:23] <MyersG> update-pciids: /usr/share/misc/pci.ids.new is read-only
[22:24] <MyersG> bash: /etc/asound.conf: No such file or directory
[22:24] <systems> hello
[22:25] <L3top> MyersG: sudo update-pciids
[22:25] <systems> i have source files with no ./configure
[22:25] <lnxslck> when will 12.04 users be prompted by update manger to upgrade to 12.10 ?
[22:25] <systems> how do i install them
[22:25] <bekks> lnxslck: Depends on their update notification settings.
[22:25] <systems> Hello, i have source files with no ./configure. How do install them?
[22:25] <bekks> !patience | systems
[22:25] <systems> sory
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> systems: what are you trying to install?
[22:25] <MyersG> Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2012-10-19 03:15:01
[22:25] <systems> some custom source apps for a server
[22:25] <soman> As I know programs in Ubuntu are installed by moving files from package to necessary directories (executables to bin, *.so to lib and etc...) so what about Java apps such as Eclipse for example which are distributed in a archive? How should I correctly install them?
[22:26] <MyersG> should I reboot now?
[22:26] <bekks> soman: apt-get install eclipse
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> systems: did you read the readme in the file (assuming there is one)
[22:26] <WilliamWallace> Hi all. Why I cannot watch flash videos?
[22:26] <epicfail> hey... i would like to run a ubuntu straight from usb-stick as a full OS. Any idea how i can do that?
[22:26] <bjrohanNexus> Is there a generic Linux channel for command line questions
[22:26] <bekks> epicfail: Install Ubuntu on that stick, and just boot from it.
[22:27] <lnxslck> WilliamWallace, you need to install a flash viewer
[22:27] <lnxslck> bjrohanNexus, #linux or #linuxhelp ?
[22:27] <epicfail> bekks, thats what i did... gives a very poor performance...
[22:27] <bjrohanNexus> Glad to see William Wallace still fighting for FREEDOM!
[22:27] <zykotick9> epicfail: usb is very slow...
[22:27] <bjrohanNexus> Thanks lnslck
[22:27] <bekks> epicfail: Then I'd change the stick with a faster one.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: you can use unetbootin to enable persistance
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: install preload to help speed up the OS too
[22:28] <L3top> well yeah... it will... unless you pay a bit of money for a decent usb stick... or even usb3 perhaps
[22:28] <WilliamWallace> how I can do it?
[22:28] <bjrohanNexus> zykotick9 got my ssh and rsync going :)
[22:28] <L3top> bjrohanNexus: what is your cli question.
[22:28] <systems> how do i read the readme file
[22:28] <systems> i did sudo nano readme
[22:28] <systems> and it didn't work
[22:29] <systems> well the files blank
[22:29] <bekks> soman: Then the file isnt named "readme".
[22:29] <w3p5t3r> i want to use the cmd-Button, inside "virtualbox ." is "xubuntu" on MacBook...or i must config self?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> systems: you won't need sudo just t read a file
[22:29] <bekks> soman: Use "ls -l" to see the actual name of the readme file.
[22:29] <bjrohanNexus> L3top none in particular, want to learn, looking for a good online study/class
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> systems: trying to guess filenames will nearly always fail
[22:29] <Tex_Nick> William Wallace : from Ubuntu Software Center ... type flash
[22:29] <epicfail> ActionParsnip, 2 problems i had with unetbootin: the ubuntu had a "install option all the time. Its not really a problem but is anoying when u just wanna use it. 2nd i did not manage to make it presitent...
[22:30] <epicfail> ActionParsnip, help would be aprrechiated :D
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> systems: if you run:  ls   instead of trying to guess, you can see the ACTUAL files, then read the appropriate file to see what is needed
[22:30] <WilliamWallace> adobe flash?
[22:30] <soman> bekks: what file are you about? And what about if I want a last eclipse release from official site? Is any way to correctly install it or I just should unpack all files to anywhere and use it?
[22:30] <systems> there is a readme file
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: not sure dude, you may be able to install to the USB as if it were a HDD
[22:30] <L3top> bjrohanNexus: could hang out in #bash TONS to be learned there... but they wont hold your hand. There wiki is strong.
[22:30] <Tex_Nick> WilliamWallace : that will work
[22:31] <systems> i typed sudo nano readme and the readme file is blank
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> systems: are the letters capitalized by any chance
[22:31] <bekks> soman: Then get their tarball, unpack it to /home/soman/eclipse/ and start the executable in there.
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> systems: is it README
[22:31] <joozers> guys any one knows how to set up dns server on ubuntu
[22:31] <Azure_GeoTECH> Hello I need help if you all be so kind. I have 2 duplicate (drive) icons that I want removed. Can anyone please help?
[22:31] <bjrohanNexus> Thank you L3top
[22:31] <soman> bekks: ok, thanks
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> systems: then that's why. the file 'readme' is not 'README', in Linux they are 2 separate files all together, Linux is very case sensitive
[22:31] <WilliamWallace> I have it installed but the flash videos doesn't work.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> WilliamWallace: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[22:32] <epicfail> ActionParsnip, thats what i currently did... well it works but a live dirstro like debian live gives better performence...
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> WilliamWallace: use web pages like http://pastie.org to host the text. Thanks
[22:32] <epicfail> also the ubuntu live cd on a stick
[22:32] <joozers> any one know how to set up a dns server on ubuntu i did google search found i nice post on ubuntuforums.org but for some reason its not working
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: did you install preload in ubuntu?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> joozers: dnsmasq isn't too shabby
[22:33] <WilliamWallace> How do I do it? Sorry, I'm new.
[22:33] <Oins> I like to install the java documentation. can anyone tell me the package name?
[22:33] <MyersG> It showed something other then the dummy output, but wasn't playing anysound, then I rebooted and now it says Dummy output and there is still no sound
[22:33] <epicfail> ActionParsnip, guess not... tell me more plz
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> WilliamWallace: its a terminal command, copy it and paste it to a terminal, hit ENTER and copy the output. Head to a pastebin webdsite and put the text there, when you hit paste the address bar will change, copy the new address and paste that here
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: it loads things into RAM, why not research a little. The web will tell you more than I ever can
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: also set vm.swappiness to a lower level
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> epicfail: if you use a lighter DE like LXDE, it will give a snappier desktop
[22:36] <WilliamWallace> http://pastebin.com/cczYZdjw
[22:37] <WilliamWallace> Did I do it right?
[22:37] <epicfail> ActionParsnip, i will use a live distro... it does the tricks out of the box...
[22:37] <epicfail> anyone a idea how i can deinstall that i get asked for an installation?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> WilliamWallace: cool, if you enable the partner repo can you install adobe-flashplugin package, may help
[22:42] <BS-Harou> Hello, I'm using Wubi Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Is it normal that the update manager doesn't give me any info about new release?
[22:42] <dr_willis> BS-Harou:  you really dont want to upgrade a wubi install to a new relase from what ive seen...
[22:42] <ejo> bah... startup-disk-creator is not working out too well on 12.10...
[22:42] <dr_willis> BS-Harou:  and since its a non-lts release you have to specifically enable  non lts upgrades
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> BS-Harou: you need to tell the OS to look for the next release (which isn't LTS) by default it will only look for LTS
[22:42] <WilliamWallace> how do i enable the partner repo?
[22:42] <ejo> ... it closes unexpectedly or it completes but the resulting usb stick is not bootable after all
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> WilliamWallace: use software centre, or uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:42] <BS-Harou> I tried to set everything in the update manager (to check for unofficial verson etc.) but it still didn't help,
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> BS-Harou: gksudo gedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[22:42] <BS-Harou> thx, I will try it :)
[22:42] <joozers> ActionParsnip any idea on doing it with bind9
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> joozers: not used it, I know of it though
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> joozers: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> joozers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto  too (down at the moment)
[22:44] <joozers> ActionParsnip thanks bro i'll give it a try
[22:44] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : Re ; WilliamWallace ... can he use ( sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer gsfonts-x11) ?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: worth a try
[22:46] <WilliamWallace> so I have to delete sources.list?
[22:46] <WeThePeople> can linux index the fs like windows does?
[22:46] <dr_willis> WilliamWallace:  why would you do that?
[22:46] <bekks> WeThePeople: Why do you want that?
[22:46] <WilliamWallace> I don't know what i have to do :DDD
[22:46] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  theres numerous ways thats done. the locate command has a index that can be used.
[22:46] <ellorenz> it is possible set master mode the  iwlwifi drivers????
[22:47] <Tex_Nick> WilliamWallace : try from terminal ... sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer gsfonts-x11
[22:47] <joozers> i did exactly this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[22:47] <WeThePeople> bekks, to search the index and not the actual fs
[22:47] <NilBud> Anyone else having issues getting Skype to install in 12.10 x64?
[22:47] <uw>  ugh I really cant deal with this unity crap.  going to try debian.  anybody have a good disto they recommend?
[22:47] <uw> cause this one is done
[22:47] <bekks> WeThePeople: By default, locate does what you want.
[22:47] <dr_willis> uw:  theres other desktops you can install on ubuntu.
[22:48] <joozers> ActionParsnip but when i do nslookup then server 10.0.1.1 and type in a domin name that i spesfied it didnt work
[22:48] <dr_willis> I will stick with Unity.
[22:48] <WeThePeople> bekks, dr_willis, ok thanks
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> joozers: do you set the server used during nslookup
[22:49] <WilliamWallace> I have installed "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer gsfonts-x11" but the videos doesn't work.
[22:49] <joozers> yeah
[22:49] <joozers> ActionParsnip yeah
[22:50] <WilliamWallace> Any more ideas?
[22:50] <joozers> SERVFAIL
[22:50] <dr_willis> use the various flash downloader, and flash replacer extensions and tell adobe to put their flash where .. err... i better be quiet..
[22:51] <Tex_Nick> WilliamWallace : what is the source of the video's you're trying to watch
[22:51] <mtx1980> good night
[22:51] <mtx1980> need help
[22:51] <WilliamWallace> Flash videos. Youtube, etc.
[22:52] <dr_willis> enable html5 support on youtube for starters. ;)
[22:52] <uw> that will get you a good 2% of the videos out there working
[22:53] <ellorenz> sombody here is wirless expert in ubuntu?
[22:53] <WilliamWallace> What's happen if I install the restricted extras?
[22:53] <mtx1980> my ubuntu dont update
[22:53] <joozers> ellorenz not really but whats ur problem ?
[22:53] <lindenle_> Where does firefox look for it's plugins? I can't get java 7 to show up.
[22:54] <systems> ActionParsnip: no its README there is no readme
[22:54] <systems> ahhh yes
[22:54] <systems> thanks
[22:54] <systems> cause i didn't use case senstives
[22:55] <kandinski> I want to enable focus follows pointer (windows get focus on pointer enter, not on mousedown), how can I do it?
[22:55] <ellorenz> I'd like to create a wifi lan to connect my android smartphone to pc but hotspot with ad hoc don't funciton and driver iwlwifi i see not support master mode
[22:56] <ellorenz> it is possible turn around the problem?
[22:57] <joozers> why dont u create a hotspot on ur phone and connect ur laptop to ur phone ellorenz
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> mtx1980: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> systems: yes, like I said, trying to guess files will nearly almost fail
[22:58] <epicfail> someone know if there is a ubuntu live iso without install option?
[22:59] <FlyingElvis> when u put in the iso disc it gives u the option to "try"ubuntu or install
[22:59] <ellorenz> joozers: i think about it but when i'll need to connect tablets or other devices it may be a problem
[23:01] <joozers> ellorenz sorry bro i never tryed making a hotspot =/ how about bluetooth ? or wired why dont u use that if u give me reasons i may find a way around =D
[23:02] <joozers> ellorenz i am sre u tryed this http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/ correct ?
[23:02] <ellorenz> joozer: ok, i collected the suggestion thanks :D
[23:03] <WilliamWallace> Goodbye
[23:04] <ellorenz> joozer: i used the helps on the web, but the standard wifi linux hotspot is in ad-hoc mode and it isn't supported by android
[23:05] <shantorn> could someone suggest a download manager that can schedule downloads?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> shantorn: you could use 'at' with wget if you know the time you want to download at, and the file
[23:06] <dr_willis> shantorn:  downloads from what from where?
[23:08] <shantorn> dr_willis, all dwnloads i can get the link to, i have a metered internet but from 12 am to 5 am its free so i want to schedule my downloads for that time
[23:10] <sandyna> ciao
[23:10] <sandyna> !list
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> epicfail, Since you don't give a reason for this you might look here there are options which might meet your mystery needs. http://askubuntu.com/questions/47522/how-to-bypass-try-it-install-screen-when-booting-from-usb-live-session-wit
[23:12] <sandyna> qualke italiano o italiana?
[23:12] <bekks> !it | sandyna
[23:12] <bulletrulz> how to cause a kernal panic ? for fun?
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[23:14] <bulletrulz> !botabuse
[23:14] <bulletrulz> !abuse
[23:14] <adsadsads> hi all
[23:14] <adsadsads> !abuse
[23:14] <juliancienfuegos> ?
[23:14] <adsadsads> hi all
[23:14] <juliancienfuegos> utha que vijo es el mirc
[23:14] <Tex_Nick> shantorn : you might take a look at flashgot and flashget pluginfor firefox ... i've uswd in the past on win platforms
[23:16] <foobArrr> I have problems with distorted sound and echo with vlc. Often sound is only distorted for the first few seconds or a minute of a file, then sound is normal. when I skip to the next song/video, sound is distorted again. I tried recording it with Sound Recorder, but I can't get that to work.
[23:16] <magn3ts> I have to say... (formatting a partition as '/' and install GRUB to that same partition.... you'd think the installer would mark the partition as active?
[23:17] <adsadsads> hi
[23:17] <d4rkh4nd> If you thinking about upgrading  to 12.10 Do a new install w/backups works perfictly.
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> magn3ts, It doesnot have to marked as active
[23:17] <dr_willis> foobArrr:  ive noticed with vlc, i have to change the sound output to either default, pulse, or alsa - or else i get some weird sounds
[23:17] <magn3ts> wilee-nilee: no?
[23:17] <bekks> magn3ts: Nowadays, thats not necessary anymore. Sicne 15 years.
[23:17] <magn3ts> wilee-nilee: oh, I'm an idiot
[23:17] <dr_willis> foobArrr:  try changeing the output, close/restart vlc. see if it does it.. if so try the next.
[23:17] <bekks> *Since
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> magn3ts, active as in a bootflag?
[23:18] <magn3ts> bekks: yeah, holy shit. yeah, never mind. I'm having another g-d UEFI issue.
[23:18] <magn3ts> wow, censored myself once, not the other time, sorry
[23:18]  * magn3ts really wants to like UEFI.
[23:18] <d4rkh4nd> I need some suggestion for DM to look at to replace unity.
[23:18] <tigerbalm> So I have a unknown device connected to my LAN at 192.168.2.2, when I try to scan it with nmap all the ports are closed and OS detection fails. I have disconnected all other known internet capable devices in my house, and cant figure out what this last device is that's still on. Any ideas?
[23:18] <foobArrr> dr_willis: already tried all available sound outputs, without restarting though, only stopping. I'll try again.
[23:18] <magn3ts> d4rkh4nd: elementary
[23:18] <dr_willis> d4rkh4nd:  LightDM is a login manager..  Unity is  part of the Desktop.. not a 'dm'
[23:18] <MyersG> Can some one please help me with my sound problem!
[23:19] <magn3ts> d4rkh4nd: elementary OS is like ubuntu only you're just a little bit happier the whole time. that's how I've come to describe it.
[23:19]  * wilee-nilee will have to have the msdos setup pried from my cold dead hands
[23:19] <bekks> magn3ts: Thats no Ubuntu...
[23:19] <magn3ts> dr_willis: I think he meant "desktop manager" like a combo of DE and WM.
[23:19] <d4rkh4nd> well im not gonna change OS
[23:19] <magn3ts> bekks: que? elementary OS is 12.04
[23:19] <shantorn> Tex_Nick, thank you
[23:19] <magn3ts> d4rkh4nd: you can install elementary on top of 12.04. That's what I use on my desktop.
[23:19] <bekks> magn3ts: Elementary OS is not an official derivate.
[23:19] <dr_willis> d4rkh4nd:  clarify wht you are wanting then
[23:20] <magn3ts> bekks: maybe not but it happily installs on top of ubuntu, or at least that's my configuration.
[23:20] <magn3ts> but I understand what you meant now.
[23:21] <d4rkh4nd> Okay i used gnome3 with 12.04 now im on 12.10 i wanna try something diffrent
[23:21] <adsadsads> d4rkh4nd: try mate
[23:21] <adsadsads> d4rkh4nd: or cinnamon
[23:21] <d4rkh4nd> and these ar DM ?
[23:21] <d4rkh4nd> are*
[23:22] <bekks> Inofficial ones.
[23:22] <dr_willis> what do you mean by a 'dm' d4rkh4nd  you are mixxing up dioffernt terms..
[23:22] <d4rkh4nd> Desktop manegers. Like gnome or KDE
[23:22] <dr_willis> Theres several differnt 'Desktop Enviroments' you can use.
[23:22] <bekks> gnome and kde are no desktop managers.
[23:22] <foobArrr> dr_willis: didn't help. distorted sound with every available output, including default, pulse, alsa.
[23:22] <d4rkh4nd> what are they called ?
[23:22] <dr_willis>  your use of the term 'DM' is incorrect.
[23:23] <bekks> d4rkh4nd: desktop environments.
[23:23] <dr_willis>  'Desktop Enviroments'
[23:23] <krababbel> desktop enviroments
[23:23] <d4rkh4nd> Okay, well thats what im looking for
[23:23] <dr_willis> KDE, Gnome, Unity, LXDE, XFCE, Others.....
[23:23] <tigerbalm> So I have a unknown device connected to my LAN at 192.168.2.2, when I try to scan it with nmap all the ports are closed and OS detection fails. I have disconnected all other known internet capable devices in my house, and cant figure out what this last device is that's still on. Any ideas?
[23:23] <dr_willis> install them all.. try them all...
[23:23] <Tex_Nick> shantorn : np ... it's a bit of a kludge ... but works from your browser ... from the terminal something like perl offers alternatives
[23:25] <torrem> tigerbalm, are you using wireless device on your network?
[23:26] <tigerbalm> there are two smartphones and two laptops, all are disconected from the network/powered down.
[23:26] <hackingbr> olá
[23:27] <hackingbr> hey
[23:27] <hackingbr> i from brasil
[23:27] <hackingbr> help
[23:27] <bekks> !br | hackingbr
[23:27] <dr1337> hey does anyone know how to load an initrd from the kernel CMDLINE?
[23:27] <boooh> hi, i want to install 12.10 and i want to split my hard disk in different partitions: one for home and one for root (and one for swap). What size each partition have to be in a 160GB hard disk? (2GB ram)
[23:28] <harryrf> I have a wireless card in 12.04 and its running really slow, I don't know the command to tell you what drivers/devices I'm using.
[23:28] <w3p5t3r> Need help, have installed packages in terminal because "gedit" want it, now no space, how i can last installed packages remove? xubuntu12.04...alternate pm please, thx
[23:28] <torrem> tigerbalm, can u disable ssid and ping it?
[23:29] <hackingbr> pessoal do ubuntubr
[23:29] <hackingbr> nao fala
[23:29] <zykotick9> harryrf: from terminal try "lspci | grep -i network" as see if you see your wireless listed (you might not).  PS. i'm assuming a pci card, if it's USB this will also not work.
[23:30] <tigerbalm> torrem : ssid of the wireless router is not broadcast publicly, I can ping 192.168.2.2 and it's up.
[23:30] <hackingbr> what installed mode graphic
[23:30] <hackingbr> ?
[23:34] <ArubaDods> Hi everyone! I have 2 ps3, I thought to buy one more, but someone told me why one more try a xbox360. and I thought maybe he is right. but I did not like it.
[23:34] <d4rkh4nd> Does anyone know if i can change my terminal settings to past on right click ?
[23:34] <d4rkh4nd> and copy highlihhted
[23:35] <MrUnity> hello. on login to unity i have an empty desktop, no unity side or top panel. this is on 12.10.
[23:35] <zykotick9> d4rkh4nd: fyi if you highlight something then use middle click (mouse roller usually) you can use Xorg's copy/paste
[23:35] <tigerbalm> torrem: Thanks, but I got to go, I will investigate later. For now I will wall off with iptables and look at it later. THanks again.
[23:35] <blackshirt> hello, good morning
[23:35] <d4rkh4nd> Mrunity: did you upgrade or fresh install
[23:36] <MrUnity> d4rkh4nd:  fresh
[23:36] <ArubaDods> but now I am stuck with a xbox360, and can't use mediatomb on it
[23:36] <Pursche> Hello, I'm a first time Ubuntu user (read: NOOB) who is having some problems with Ubuntu 12.10. Basicly if I start up System Settings or any program that uses the default... Well on Windows it would be called Explorer... The mouse stops working, I can still move the pointer around and all but I can't left click, it doesn't do anything... Any suggestions?
[23:36] <w3p5t3r> Need help, have installed packages, by mistake, in terminal, because "gedit" want it, now no diskspace, how i can last installed packages remove? I dont want gedit now...terminal is open...i stuck ^^
[23:37] <ArubaDods> Pursche, try change the mouse for another one, not the same model
[23:37] <d4rkh4nd> Purshe: i fixed this with a fresh install. Erase all/ install option
[23:37] <magn3ts> w3p5t3r: try autoremove and autoclean
[23:37] <magn3ts> w3p5t3r: it will clear your apt cache and get you some fast free space
[23:37] <drkokandy> MrUnity - I had a similar issue related to my video drivers causing problems with X
[23:38] <w3p5t3r> i try thx magnets
[23:38] <MrUnity> oh
[23:38] <Pursche> When I boot I get a few problems to report but I'm not sure how to paste those into a pastebin as it isn't in pure text. ArubaDods I'll try it out, I'm using a Saitek R.A.T 7 by the way and I read a guide how to fix this problem but it didn't work.
[23:38] <MrUnity> i have default drivers installed
[23:38] <Pursche> d3rkh4nd, this is a fresh install though, mererly an hour old. :/
[23:38] <zykotick9> magn3ts: i thought it was "sudo apt-get clean" to clear download cache?  what does autoclean do?
[23:38] <w3p5t3r> ...
[23:39] <blackshirt> zykotick9, autoclean was for clean the old packages
[23:39] <magn3ts> I'm not sure, that was a bit off the top of my head but I don't think either will cause problems (well, in some really rare ways they might, but only if you're a dev and only in rare circumstances.
[23:39] <w3p5t3r> command not found magnets
[23:39] <blackshirt> where clean for clean all cache
[23:39] <w3p5t3r> both
[23:40] <w3p5t3r> with and without soudo ^^
[23:40] <w3p5t3r> sudo*
[23:40] <magn3ts> clean, autoclean, autoremove
[23:40] <magn3ts> As in... `sudo apt-get clean` or `sudo apt-get autoclean`, etc w3p5t3r
[23:41] <w3p5t3r> its a package? dont know if i have enoght space now
[23:42] <magn3ts> w3p5t3r: no, they're commands. Notice there's no "install".
[23:42] <magn3ts> w3p5t3r: apt-get manages your packages, it installs them but it also caches them. Those commands clear it's cache.
[23:42] <papachan> python3 run fine
[23:42] <magn3ts> w3p5t3r: it will usually get you free space, certainly enough to recover to be able to remove gedit and sort your stuff out.
[23:42] <papachan> i mean it come with
[23:42] <papachan> new version
[23:42] <w3p5t3r> k
[23:43] <w3p5t3r> magn3ts:E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[23:43] <w3p5t3r> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[23:44] <harryrf> I know it's a pci card, I will have to this issue later.
[23:44] <harryrf> Is there a way that I can download "kubuntu plasma desktop" and burn it to a disc?
[23:44] <harryrf> on a non-linux computer*
[23:45] <magn3ts> w3p5t3r: you ran with sudo?
[23:45] <blackshirt> harryf, yes
[23:45] <dr_willis> harryrf:  downloading the kde desktop enviroment packages to install on an offline linux box?
[23:45] <w3p5t3r> it works :)
[23:45] <dr_willis> !offline
[23:45] <harryrf> the linux box is online, but 100mb takes 3 days on my current wifi card
[23:46] <nrdb> I have a "Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700   @ 2.13GHz" but with the image viewer it take minutes to load a picture... :-( ... any idea why? .... using dd I can read the file in mS
[23:46] <MrBushido> are there any changes from ubuntu 12.10 beta 2 to release that wouldnt be available through apt-get?
[23:46] <magn3ts> nrdb, what kind of picture is it o_0
[23:46] <bekks> nrdb: How large is that image?
[23:46] <dr_willis> MrBushido:  if you update/upgrade it should be same as final
[23:46] <magma> how do I upgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10 from the command line?
[23:46] <MrBushido> dr_willis: and upgrading is as simple as apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[23:47] <dr_willis> yes MrBushido
[23:47] <w3p5t3r> how can i check what is happend in the last 5 minutes?
[23:47] <nrdb> magma, bekks , JPG 7.1M
[23:47] <MrBushido> okies, thanks! <3
[23:47] <blackshirt> magma, you should do it carefully even apt was best tool when play in upgrading release
[23:47] <bekks> nrdb: Which image dimensions?
[23:48] <blackshirt> magma, i think you should be better in minimal installed system when upgrading
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> magma: gksudo gedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[23:48] <nrdb> bekks, 4K pixels x 3K pixels
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> magma: then run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:49] <magma> ActionParsnip: and without command line?
[23:49] <magma> mean, through the GUI
[23:49] <blackshirt> magma, full blown installed packages was more chance to break
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> magma: no idea, i don't use GUI much
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[23:49] <thekat> after install ccsm when i go to install a new package i see this http://pastebin.com/Qmqu42yx why are so many packages wanting to be removed?
[23:50] <w3p5t3r> magn3ts: gedit is actually listed under "installed" in synaptic...can i remove complete?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> w3p5t3r: i believe its a dep of Gnome
[23:51] <w3p5t3r> right
[23:51] <magma> thanks
[23:51] <w3p5t3r> i dont need
[23:51] <w3p5t3r> today iam not shure at all :D
[23:52] <dr_willis> why go to the effort to remove gedit?
[23:52] <w3p5t3r> mistake install willis
[23:52] <w3p5t3r> have xfce
[23:52] <dr_willis> so?
[23:52] <thekat> anyone know why so many packages are now "safe to remove"
[23:52] <dr_willis> you that tight on drive space?
[23:52] <thekat> http://pastebin.com/Qmqu42yx
[23:53] <kriston> thekat: I know, I destroyed a system when upgrading because of how many packages it thought were "safe to remove."  Oh well.
[23:53] <w3p5t3r> willis...i follow a documentation and he was working with gedit
[23:53] <thekat> kriston, so i should ignore it?
[23:53] <w3p5t3r> so i think i can only with gedit work
[23:53] <thekat> anyway to remove that warning? this is a system for my wife
[23:54] <w3p5t3r> but...too many packages...
[23:54] <w3p5t3r> because gnome
[23:54] <dr_willis> removeing gedit here.. selexts to onlyu remove 'gedit'
[23:54] <thekat> dont want her to kill the system when im not around
[23:54] <dr_willis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[23:54] <dr_willis> After this operation, 2,790 kB disk space will be freed.
[23:54] <w3p5t3r> i can send u, waht is installed after gedit if u want
[23:54] <kriston> I think it aggressively removes nVidia drivers, and anything non-Unity (like default GNOME)
[23:55] <w3p5t3r> have 8 gb disk space
[23:55] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove gedit       removes gedit here.. saving a big 2,790kb ;)
[23:55] <w3p5t3r> o okay
[23:55] <Tex_Nick> thekat ... in my situation ... i would worry more bout her killing me ... be careful when messing wu=ith compiz ... lo ;-)
[23:56] <w3p5t3r> i stuck, so i would autoremove and so on but gedit still exist
[23:56] <dr_willis> i dont see how it exists if you 'apt-get remove' it...
[23:56] <w3p5t3r> i kill it in synaptic...simplyer 4 me
[23:56] <blackshirt> w3p5t3r, purge it if you don't want
[23:57] <thekat> Tex_Nick, files are backed up by ubuntuone... so im ok there... i loaded ccsm to see if i can make it "prettier" for her :)
[23:57] <w3p5t3r> is ok....second i will test and see what happend...thx all
[23:57] <thekat> Tex_Nick, but its working so i guess i can leave it be
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: I left it on but set leafpad as the default text editor :)
[23:58] <w3p5t3r> willis 7,585kb :)
[23:59] <w3p5t3r> willis there are also many "zeitgeist" packages and "precise" packages
[23:59] <nrdb> I have a "Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700   @ 2.13GHz" but with the image viewer it take minutes to load a picture, it is a 7.1MB jpg  4536x3024 pixels ... :-( ... any idea why? .... using dd I can read the file in mS ... when I copied it to another computer it opens it in image viewer in a second or so.