[01:02] <psusi> what package do you file bugs against for audio?  when I used to plug in my headphones the sound would stop coming out of the speakers, and this is no longer the case in 12.10... even when I switch the output to headphones in the sound settings, it still comes out of the speakers, though quiter
[01:08] <silverarrow> I`m finally starting to realize how important open software is
[01:09] <silverarrow> I`m just reading a enduser agreement apple forces you to sign when you buy a new macbook pro
[01:09] <silverarrow> I am going for something else than apple
[01:10] <psusi> nice
[01:11] <psusi> I can't stand apple... if you aren't a total nitwit and only need to do the exact some 3 things everyone else does and they focus development on, you can't do it at all
[01:14] <Tohuw> How can I obtain the files necessary to PXE boot Ubuntu 13.04?
[01:16] <silverarrow> psusi: if you write or edit a book in some apple software you are not allowed to publish it, using apple formatting / or setup
[01:16] <psusi> wow
[01:16] <silverarrow> psusi: you are allowed to extract the text and use a different software to edit
[01:16] <psusi> that's retarded
[01:17] <silverarrow> it is
[01:18] <silverarrow> yet, apple demands a separate agreement to anyone who wants to use their book editing software to make money
[01:18] <Tohuw> psusi: For your problem, file against pulse-audio. However, you might want to check this thread, as you may be experiencing a variant of this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125235/headphones-very-quiet-with-realtek-alc663-intel-hda-82801ji
[01:19] <silverarrow> you are not allowed to sell or use any of the apple software with out apple making a certain % of the work
[01:19] <psusi> Tohuw,  I have the reverse... headphones are fine, but the main speakers won't shut up since upgrading to 12.10
[01:24] <Tohuw> psusi: I know. The issue may be similar though. Check the assignments and ensure it is properly understanding your headphones channel as such. Regardless, you can file against pulseaudio (sorry, no hyphen)
[02:43] <bjsnider> he read a eula? nobody reads eulas
[04:50] <needhelp1> is 13.04 our yet
[04:50] <needhelp1> *out
[06:37] <cowsquad> Can anyone tell me how to set up the remote login? what do I need to configure that?
[06:38] <mortal> apt-get install openssh-server
[06:38] <cowsquad> mortal, was that for me?
[06:40] <cowsquad> thank you mortal
[06:43] <IdleOne> the support channel is #ubuntu unless you're asking for help with 13.04
[06:53] <cowsquad> oh i got it man. thank you
[07:38] <sebsebseb>  
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:43] <IdleOne> morning BluesKaj
[10:43] <BluesKaj> hey IdleOne
[10:44] <IdleOne> ready to change your sources.list?
[10:44] <IdleOne> toolchain is up
[10:49] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, already ..thought it wouldn't be up until thurs
[10:49] <IdleOne> went up yesterday
[10:50] <BluesKaj> have you changed yours yet?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> source.list that is
[10:52] <IdleOne> no, going to wait for UDS to finish
[10:54] <BluesKaj> UDS?
[10:55] <IdleOne> !uds
[10:57] <BluesKaj> well, I might try sooner , I do have 12.10 and 12.04 installs for fallback
[11:21] <penguin42> a nice clean +1 channel
[11:25] <BluesKaj> hey penguin42 , toolchain is uploaded , gonna take a chance ?
[11:27] <philinux> BluesKaj: I though that wasnt supposed to happen till the 25th
[11:28] <BluesKaj> philinux, yeah , so did I , but Idleone says it's up
[11:31] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Haha, probalby not yet - I might do a VM this evening
[11:32] <BluesKaj> right
[11:33] <philinux> BluesKaj: Upgraded yesterday to 12.10 from 12.04 and only thing amiss is Evolution does not show Birthdays after upgrade to 12.10 - anyone else seeing this.
[11:34] <BluesKaj> philinux, sorry I'm a KDE user
[11:34] <philinux> ah ok
[15:17] <fasta> What's the point of patching a piece of software as opposed to working with upsteam?
[15:18] <fasta> For example in this package: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mupdf/+bug/934999
[15:18] <smartboyhw> How can I upgrade using do-release-upgrade to Raring now if I can't when I can?
[15:18] <bazhang> there's nothing to upgrade to
[15:19] <bazhang> after UDS
[15:19] <fasta> Now every distribution is going to have users reporting that bug and they all need to fix it.
[15:19] <smartboyhw> bazhang, thx
[15:19] <fasta> Instead of just upstream fixing it.
[15:20] <jtaylor> fasta: how would upstream not have noticed that?
[15:21] <jtaylor> normally fixes are forwarded upstream
[15:21] <jtaylor> in this case it seems likely they already fixed it long ago
[15:22] <jtaylor> upstream is two version higher
[15:47] <fasta> jtaylor: actually, I just downloaded a release from code.google.com and it didn't compile...
[15:47] <fasta> jtaylor: so, that would kind of suggest that it didn't.
[15:48] <fasta> jtaylor: I personally don't understand these people who build software which don't use things like pkg-config, etc.
[15:49] <fasta> jtaylor: also, why would upstream care about Ubuntu?
[15:50] <jtaylor> pkg-config only exists on linux like systems
[15:50] <jtaylor> not on macos etc
[15:50] <fasta> jtaylor: it's extremely portable.
[15:50] <fasta> jtaylor: all you need is a bash script.
[15:50] <jtaylor> yes but not installed by default
[15:50] <fasta> jtaylor: so?
[15:50] <jtaylor> try to get a mac user to install pkg-config before your software
[15:50] <fasta> wget URL
[15:50] <jtaylor> in my experience they don't know anything besides using appstore
[15:51] <fasta> Or wget 'https://*'
[15:51] <jtaylor> wget is not isntalled by default either
[15:51] <jtaylor> though curl is
[21:07] <PeterME_> Ugh, going out in not to long. Any tips?