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| vibhav | .j ##d-a-t | 04:16 |
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| vibhav | oops | 04:17 |
| nathanel1itane | i just popped the 12.10 gnome remix edit on live usb and I must admit i am so tempted to come back to ubuntu :) - one thing though, I am experiencing weirdness with wine1.4: it refuses to install claiming failed deps and broken packages... anyone have the same experience on default ubuntu? | 16:55 |
| nathanel1itane | hey jbicha! | 16:55 |
| nathanel1itane | i just popped the 12.10 gnome remix edit on live usb and I must admit i am so tempted to come back to ubuntu :) - one thing though, I am experiencing weirdness with wine1.4: it refuses to install claiming failed deps and broken packages... anyone have the same experience on default ubuntu? | 17:15 |
| everaldo | jbicha, is anyone asking about the missing file vmlinuz.efi.signed ? | 21:37 |
| everaldo | (in casper directory) | 21:37 |
| jbicha | everaldo: nope, know anyone who needs secure boot? | 23:05 |
| nathaneltitane | hey guys | 23:08 |
| everaldo | nathaneltitane, hey! | 23:10 |
| everaldo | jbicha, I will investigate but a friend just send a grub error message asking about this when using efi | 23:11 |
| everaldo | it happens only with UGR, not with Ubuntu | 23:11 |
| nathaneltitane | popped a live image of the gnome edition and must say I love it. make me want to come back to ubuntu :) | 23:11 |
| nathaneltitane | you guys rocked it! | 23:12 |
| everaldo | nathaneltitane, kudos for jbicha | 23:12 |
| nathaneltitane | i stumbled on an error though, maybe it's because i ran it in live mode? wine refuses to install claiming a dependency and broken packages error | 23:13 |
| nathaneltitane | even when using the winehq ppa for 1.5.1 | 23:13 |
| everaldo | nathaneltitane, what is the error? | 23:15 |
| nathaneltitane | it refuses to install stating wine1.4.1-amd64 depends on wine1.4.1-i386...blablabla you have held broken packages . not installing due to failed dependencies | 23:16 |
| nathaneltitane | i updated all the sources and caches befor proceeding in both cases.. no go | 23:17 |
| everaldo | nathaneltitane, 64 bits right? | 23:19 |
| nathaneltitane | indeed | 23:19 |
| everaldo | please open a terminal and type | 23:20 |
| everaldo | sudo apt-get install wine | 23:20 |
| everaldo | after got an error | 23:20 |
| everaldo | copy the message here or on pastebin.ca | 23:20 |
| jbicha | everaldo: Canada? | 23:21 |
| nathaneltitane | well i reverted back to my fedora system.. brb gonna load it up and reconnect. give me 5 mins | 23:21 |
| nathaneltitane | yes | 23:21 |
| nathaneltitane | montreal | 23:21 |
| everaldo | jbicha, well, I used pastebin.ca but never think about canada | 23:23 |
| everaldo | could be http://pastebin.com/ :-) | 23:23 |
| everaldo | jbicha, some people just ask me why not have OpenOffice instead of Gnumeric and Abiword | 23:24 |
| everaldo | also, they miss Firefox | 23:24 |
| gnome | im back! | 23:24 |
| everaldo | I recommend install this packages but 4/5 people think that this packages must come by default | 23:24 |
| jbicha | paste.ubuntu.com :) | 23:24 |
| gnome | im on the live image | 23:25 |
| everaldo | oh! so theres one paste.ubuntu.com | 23:25 |
| everaldo | gnome, ah... so you are using live system | 23:25 |
| jbicha | points to the topic ^ :) | 23:25 |
| everaldo | gnome, you must enable some repositories | 23:25 |
| gnome | i did. | 23:25 |
| gnome | i had loaded all standard repos manually and it still errored out afaik | 23:25 |
| * everaldo shamed because never read topic :D | 23:25 | |
| everaldo | gnome, so, try again and paste results on paste.ubuntu.com so I can check the problem | 23:26 |
| gnome | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293627/ | 23:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | apt-get install wine wine1.4 | 23:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | add that there, and see if it whines any more | 23:28 |
| gnome | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293634/ | 23:28 |
| gnome | i had already tried that beforehand | 23:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | and you're on which, 12.10? | 23:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | gnome: try apt-get install -f wine wine1.4 | 23:30 |
| gnome | same eroor | 23:31 |
| gnome | 12.10 | 23:31 |
| gnome | gnome remix | 23:31 |
| gnome | amd 64 | 23:31 |
| jbicha | could you paste the entire output of apt-get update | 23:31 |
| TheLordOfTime | yeah you may need to do that | 23:31 |
| gnome | live usb, created under ubuntu 12.04 | 23:31 |
| jbicha | and have you run apt-get update? | 23:31 |
| TheLordOfTime | run apt-get update and try again, that may be the issue... | 23:32 |
| gnome | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293639/ | 23:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | o.O | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | oh nevermind | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | random 403 error xD | 23:33 |
| gnome | ^ | 23:33 |
| gnome | ?? | 23:33 |
| everaldo | hum, here it works on installed system | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | i was opening that paste page, and i got a 403 | 23:33 |
| everaldo | gnome, can you paste you apt sources.list? | 23:34 |
| gnome | root@gnome:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list | 23:34 |
| gnome | deb cdrom:[Ubuntu GNOME Remix 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release amd64(20121018)]/ quantal main restricted | 23:34 |
| gnome | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main universe restricted multiverse | 23:34 |
| everaldo | gnome, also, for wine users I recommend 32bit system always | 23:34 |
| gnome | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-security universe main multiverse restricted | 23:34 |
| gnome | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-updates universe main multiverse restricted | 23:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | use a pastebin! | 23:34 |
| gnome | will do | 23:35 |
| gnome | http://pastebin.com/rQBr6SZJ | 23:35 |
| gnome | ^^ thats the apt update output | 23:35 |
| gnome | well way back. i never had any wine issues on amd64, neither do i have on fedora as of right now btw | 23:36 |
| gnome | that sounds like a control package error | 23:37 |
| jbicha | gnome: the problem is that somehow you're not getting the 32-bit packages, wine is actually a 32-bit package | 23:37 |
| gnome | mhm | 23:37 |
| jbicha | I'm trying to look up something to check... | 23:37 |
| gnome | i just generated a full sources list | 23:37 |
| gnome | let me write and update | 23:37 |
| gnome | http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php | 23:38 |
| everaldo | gnome, wine is 32 bit even on fedora | 23:38 |
| gnome | understood | 23:38 |
| gnome | never knew... | 23:38 |
| gnome | even with the amd64/i686 suffix? | 23:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | yup | 23:39 |
| jbicha | gnome: your sources.list is fine, no need to change it | 23:39 |
| gnome | ok | 23:39 |
| gnome | well wine 15.1 failed also last time i tried from their repo | 23:40 |
| gnome | 1.51** | 23:40 |
| everaldo | gnome, just a second I am trying to install wine 1.4 here | 23:40 |
| * everaldo is also using a 64bit system | 23:40 | |
| everaldo | gnome, it is just downloading packages here... looks like it will works | 23:42 |
| gnome | so why would it not function under live? | 23:43 |
| gnome | you run the gnome edit too right? | 23:43 |
| everaldo | gnome, yes.. always gnome edition ;-) | 23:43 |
| gnome | apt-get install wine | 23:44 |
| everaldo | sudo apt-get install wine wine1.4 | 23:44 |
| gnome | nada. still no go | 23:44 |
| gnome | even with 1.5 | 23:44 |
| gnome | still asks the i386 | 23:44 |
| everaldo | jbicha, maybe it is a disk space size for live cd ? | 23:44 |
| gnome | everaldo: isnt livecd dead? | 23:45 |
| everaldo | gnome, no, it is not | 23:45 |
| gnome | so if i install it it should run i guess | 23:45 |
| everaldo | but maybe you cant have space to download all packages on a live session | 23:45 |
| everaldo | gnome, yes, it works if you install, 82% here, 2 minutes more | 23:46 |
| gnome | k | 23:46 |
| everaldo | gnome, just works here, installing | 23:46 |
| gnome | great then | 23:47 |
| everaldo | gnome, your sources.list is a little different | 23:47 |
| gnome | its the live sources | 23:47 |
| everaldo | yes, not sure if live settings enable all tha you need but after installing it enable | 23:47 |
| gnome | paste me yours | 23:47 |
| jbicha | gnome: it doesn't work with the Ubuntu amd64 live disk either; you'll just need to wait and install wine after installing | 23:48 |
| everaldo | gnome, would you like to try my sources.list (the one after install) | 23:48 |
| gnome | ya | 23:48 |
| gnome | please | 23:48 |
| jbicha | whatever you install in the live environment won't automatically be installed after you install any way | 23:48 |
| everaldo | gnome, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293649/ | 23:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | jbicha's right | 23:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | install first, then add the packages you want, otherwise it might not work | 23:48 |
| everaldo | gnome,yes, jbicha is right, if you install you will lose packages after reboot | 23:48 |
| jbicha | you're welcome to try and file a bug, maybe against casper, and the developers should move it to the correct package if that's not correct | 23:49 |
| gnome | i know that guys. i was simply testing the features i personnally use under the live session to make sure everything ran ok. wine was the last thing | 23:49 |
| jbicha | it's not a "Ubuntu GNOME" specific bug | 23:49 |
| gnome | i thought so | 23:49 |
| jbicha | we've got plenty of bugs of our own without needing to take responsibility for ubuntu's bugs ;) | 23:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 23:50 |
| everaldo | gnome, but I am sure, if you install it will works | 23:51 |
| everaldo | gnome, I just installed it here and is running ok, tested a Delphi program that uses ado and it works :) | 23:51 |
| gnome | cool | 23:52 |
| gnome | thanks | 23:52 |
| * everaldo just wanna make clean that this delphi program comes from a customer ;-) | 23:52 | |
| gnome | so maybe im coming back to ubuntu after all :) | 23:52 |
| everaldo | s/clean/clear/ | 23:52 |
| everaldo | gnome, I have used fedora for few months | 23:52 |
| jbicha | gnome: you can always install in a virtual machine if you want to test before committing to actually install on your computer directly | 23:52 |
| everaldo | also opensuse | 23:52 |
| gnome | didnt feel like compiling the kernel modules for vbox :P | 23:53 |
| everaldo | and Ubuntu always still the best in hardware compatibility and stability | 23:53 |
| gnome | though, would be interesting to make full use of the usb storage capacity. and expand the image to maximal size allotted to enable all the repos on the image | 23:53 |
| gnome | no^ | 23:53 |
| gnome | no? | 23:53 |
| everaldo | gnome, the only problem for me was Unity, I really can't use it | 23:53 |
| gnome | I HATE UNITY | 23:54 |
| gnome | thats why i left in the first place | 23:54 |
| everaldo | so, you understand me | 23:54 |
| gnome | and honestly, fedora's hardware compatibility rocks | 23:54 |
| gnome | but that's another story :) | 23:54 |
| everaldo | gnome, yes? | 23:55 |
| gnome | so, when are we going official? | 23:55 |
| gnome | yes it is. | 23:55 |
| everaldo | gnome, don't you have problems with wireless, nvidia and amd? | 23:55 |
| gnome | im already on kernel 3.6.2 | 23:55 |
| gnome | at all | 23:55 |
| everaldo | (in fedora) | 23:55 |
| everaldo | gnome, how you install nvidia, amd and wireless in fedora? | 23:55 |
| gnome | you just enable the external rpm fusion repos and boom! | 23:55 |
| everaldo | gnome, ah, that | 23:56 |
| gnome | kmod-nvidia | 23:56 |
| everaldo | so, let me tell you my problem | 23:56 |
| gnome | do tell | 23:56 |
| everaldo | I had about 6 machines on some customers | 23:56 |
| gnome | jbicha: when are we going official? | 23:56 |
| everaldo | and fedora just update kernel packages | 23:56 |
| everaldo | and nvidia stops to works | 23:56 |
| everaldo | or wireless stop to works | 23:57 |
| jbicha | gnome: we have to ask the Tech Board for permission and then there needs to be room on the build/image servers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors | 23:57 |
| gnome | that's because you need to recompile the driver | 23:57 |
| everaldo | gnome, then we need to wait between 2~4 days before rpm fusion updates its packages | 23:57 |
| jbicha | I think Lubuntu had to wait a cycle after the first before the second was available | 23:57 |
| everaldo | gnome, my customers can't do it :( | 23:57 |
| gnome | i know. but you can just delay the updates to weekly | 23:58 |
| gnome | and use akmod- which drags all required deps to recompile automatically on update | 23:58 |
| everaldo | I did | 23:58 |
| gnome | rather than kmod | 23:58 |
| everaldo | and install have problems | 23:58 |
| everaldo | even with akmod | 23:58 |
| gnome | never happened to me | 23:59 |
| everaldo | to be honest, this is not a problem for me at all | 23:59 |
| everaldo | but for "normal" users it looks like a hell | 23:59 |
| gnome | i know | 23:59 |
| gnome | i knw exactly what you mean | 23:59 |
| jbicha | everaldo: um, Fedora is too bleeding edge to be trying to support for customers | 23:59 |
| gnome | jbicha: good to know. so i guess it's the same for all newcomers :) | 23:59 |
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