=== gonyere_ is now known as gonyere [04:16] .j ##d-a-t [04:17] oops [16:55] i just popped the 12.10 gnome remix edit on live usb and I must admit i am so tempted to come back to ubuntu :) - one thing though, I am experiencing weirdness with wine1.4: it refuses to install claiming failed deps and broken packages... anyone have the same experience on default ubuntu? [16:55] hey jbicha! [17:15] i just popped the 12.10 gnome remix edit on live usb and I must admit i am so tempted to come back to ubuntu :) - one thing though, I am experiencing weirdness with wine1.4: it refuses to install claiming failed deps and broken packages... anyone have the same experience on default ubuntu? [21:37] jbicha, is anyone asking about the missing file vmlinuz.efi.signed ? [21:37] (in casper directory) [23:05] everaldo: nope, know anyone who needs secure boot? [23:08] hey guys [23:10] nathaneltitane, hey! [23:11] jbicha, I will investigate but a friend just send a grub error message asking about this when using efi [23:11] it happens only with UGR, not with Ubuntu [23:11] popped a live image of the gnome edition and must say I love it. make me want to come back to ubuntu :) [23:12] you guys rocked it! [23:12] nathaneltitane, kudos for jbicha [23:13] i stumbled on an error though, maybe it's because i ran it in live mode? wine refuses to install claiming a dependency and broken packages error [23:13] even when using the winehq ppa for 1.5.1 [23:15] nathaneltitane, what is the error? [23:16] it refuses to install stating wine1.4.1-amd64 depends on wine1.4.1-i386...blablabla you have held broken packages . not installing due to failed dependencies [23:17] i updated all the sources and caches befor proceeding in both cases.. no go [23:19] nathaneltitane, 64 bits right? [23:19] indeed [23:20] please open a terminal and type [23:20] sudo apt-get install wine [23:20] after got an error [23:20] copy the message here or on pastebin.ca [23:21] everaldo: Canada? [23:21] well i reverted back to my fedora system.. brb gonna load it up and reconnect. give me 5 mins [23:21] yes [23:21] montreal [23:23] jbicha, well, I used pastebin.ca but never think about canada [23:23] could be http://pastebin.com/ :-) [23:24] jbicha, some people just ask me why not have OpenOffice instead of Gnumeric and Abiword [23:24] also, they miss Firefox [23:24] im back! [23:24] I recommend install this packages but 4/5 people think that this packages must come by default [23:24] paste.ubuntu.com :) [23:25] im on the live image [23:25] oh! so theres one paste.ubuntu.com [23:25] gnome, ah... so you are using live system [23:25] points to the topic ^ :) [23:25] gnome, you must enable some repositories [23:25] i did. [23:25] i had loaded all standard repos manually and it still errored out afaik [23:25] * everaldo shamed because never read topic :D [23:26] gnome, so, try again and paste results on paste.ubuntu.com so I can check the problem [23:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293627/ [23:28] apt-get install wine wine1.4 [23:28] add that there, and see if it whines any more [23:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293634/ [23:28] i had already tried that beforehand [23:29] and you're on which, 12.10? [23:30] gnome: try apt-get install -f wine wine1.4 [23:31] same eroor [23:31] 12.10 [23:31] gnome remix [23:31] amd 64 [23:31] could you paste the entire output of apt-get update [23:31] yeah you may need to do that [23:31] live usb, created under ubuntu 12.04 [23:31] and have you run apt-get update? [23:32] run apt-get update and try again, that may be the issue... [23:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293639/ [23:33] o.O [23:33] oh nevermind [23:33] random 403 error xD [23:33] ^ [23:33] ?? [23:33] hum, here it works on installed system [23:33] i was opening that paste page, and i got a 403 [23:34] gnome, can you paste you apt sources.list? [23:34] root@gnome:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list [23:34] deb cdrom:[Ubuntu GNOME Remix 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release amd64(20121018)]/ quantal main restricted [23:34] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main universe restricted multiverse [23:34] gnome, also, for wine users I recommend 32bit system always [23:34] deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-security universe main multiverse restricted [23:34] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-updates universe main multiverse restricted [23:34] use a pastebin! [23:35] will do [23:35] http://pastebin.com/rQBr6SZJ [23:35] ^^ thats the apt update output [23:36] well way back. i never had any wine issues on amd64, neither do i have on fedora as of right now btw [23:37] that sounds like a control package error [23:37] gnome: the problem is that somehow you're not getting the 32-bit packages, wine is actually a 32-bit package [23:37] mhm [23:37] I'm trying to look up something to check... [23:37] i just generated a full sources list [23:37] let me write and update [23:38] http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php [23:38] gnome, wine is 32 bit even on fedora [23:38] understood [23:38] never knew... [23:39] even with the amd64/i686 suffix? [23:39] yup [23:39] gnome: your sources.list is fine, no need to change it [23:39] ok [23:40] well wine 15.1 failed also last time i tried from their repo [23:40] 1.51** [23:40] gnome, just a second I am trying to install wine 1.4 here [23:40] * everaldo is also using a 64bit system [23:42] gnome, it is just downloading packages here... looks like it will works [23:43] so why would it not function under live? [23:43] you run the gnome edit too right? [23:43] gnome, yes.. always gnome edition ;-) [23:44] apt-get install wine [23:44] sudo apt-get install wine wine1.4 [23:44] nada. still no go [23:44] even with 1.5 [23:44] still asks the i386 [23:44] jbicha, maybe it is a disk space size for live cd ? [23:45] everaldo: isnt livecd dead? [23:45] gnome, no, it is not [23:45] so if i install it it should run i guess [23:45] but maybe you cant have space to download all packages on a live session [23:46] gnome, yes, it works if you install, 82% here, 2 minutes more [23:46] k [23:46] gnome, just works here, installing [23:47] great then [23:47] gnome, your sources.list is a little different [23:47] its the live sources [23:47] yes, not sure if live settings enable all tha you need but after installing it enable [23:47] paste me yours [23:48] gnome: it doesn't work with the Ubuntu amd64 live disk either; you'll just need to wait and install wine after installing [23:48] gnome, would you like to try my sources.list (the one after install) [23:48] ya [23:48] please [23:48] whatever you install in the live environment won't automatically be installed after you install any way [23:48] gnome, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1293649/ [23:48] jbicha's right [23:48] install first, then add the packages you want, otherwise it might not work [23:48] gnome,yes, jbicha is right, if you install you will lose packages after reboot [23:49] you're welcome to try and file a bug, maybe against casper, and the developers should move it to the correct package if that's not correct [23:49] i know that guys. i was simply testing the features i personnally use under the live session to make sure everything ran ok. wine was the last thing [23:49] it's not a "Ubuntu GNOME" specific bug [23:49] i thought so [23:50] we've got plenty of bugs of our own without needing to take responsibility for ubuntu's bugs ;) [23:50] :P [23:51] gnome, but I am sure, if you install it will works [23:51] gnome, I just installed it here and is running ok, tested a Delphi program that uses ado and it works :) [23:52] cool [23:52] thanks [23:52] * everaldo just wanna make clean that this delphi program comes from a customer ;-) [23:52] so maybe im coming back to ubuntu after all :) [23:52] s/clean/clear/ [23:52] gnome, I have used fedora for few months [23:52] gnome: you can always install in a virtual machine if you want to test before committing to actually install on your computer directly [23:52] also opensuse [23:53] didnt feel like compiling the kernel modules for vbox :P [23:53] and Ubuntu always still the best in hardware compatibility and stability [23:53] though, would be interesting to make full use of the usb storage capacity. and expand the image to maximal size allotted to enable all the repos on the image [23:53] no^ [23:53] no? [23:53] gnome, the only problem for me was Unity, I really can't use it [23:54] I HATE UNITY [23:54] thats why i left in the first place [23:54] so, you understand me [23:54] and honestly, fedora's hardware compatibility rocks [23:54] but that's another story :) [23:55] gnome, yes? [23:55] so, when are we going official? [23:55] yes it is. [23:55] gnome, don't you have problems with wireless, nvidia and amd? [23:55] im already on kernel 3.6.2 [23:55] at all [23:55] (in fedora) [23:55] gnome, how you install nvidia, amd and wireless in fedora? [23:55] you just enable the external rpm fusion repos and boom! [23:56] gnome, ah, that [23:56] kmod-nvidia [23:56] so, let me tell you my problem [23:56] do tell [23:56] I had about 6 machines on some customers [23:56] jbicha: when are we going official? [23:56] and fedora just update kernel packages [23:56] and nvidia stops to works [23:57] or wireless stop to works [23:57] gnome: we have to ask the Tech Board for permission and then there needs to be room on the build/image servers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors [23:57] that's because you need to recompile the driver [23:57] gnome, then we need to wait between 2~4 days before rpm fusion updates its packages [23:57] I think Lubuntu had to wait a cycle after the first before the second was available [23:57] gnome, my customers can't do it :( [23:58] i know. but you can just delay the updates to weekly [23:58] and use akmod- which drags all required deps to recompile automatically on update [23:58] I did [23:58] rather than kmod [23:58] and install have problems [23:58] even with akmod [23:59] never happened to me [23:59] to be honest, this is not a problem for me at all [23:59] but for "normal" users it looks like a hell [23:59] i know [23:59] i knw exactly what you mean [23:59] everaldo: um, Fedora is too bleeding edge to be trying to support for customers [23:59] jbicha: good to know. so i guess it's the same for all newcomers :)