[14:23] <airurando> frustration.
[14:23] <airurando> got 12.10 up and running from a fresh install.
[14:23] <airurando> could not get £D graphics up and running.
[14:24] <airurando> *3D
[14:24] <airurando> borked the system again with my amateur attempts.
[14:24] <airurando> 12.10 is not for me.
[14:24] <airurando> reinstalling 12.04
[14:29] <airurando> need to be on the road for 16:00 to meet with a friend before heading into the TOG hosted Release Party / Social Night.
[14:29] <airurando> hope the 12.04 reinstall ins done before then.
[22:28] <airurando> evening
[22:29] <zmoylan> hi, how went launch party?
[22:29] <airurando> quiet
[22:29] <airurando> the usual suspects
[22:29] <airurando> but TOG had a visitor from California
[22:30] <zmoylan> cool
[22:31] <zmoylan> did you sort your graphics difficulties?
[22:32] <airurando> no
[22:32] <airurando> I got 12.10 up and running but with no nifty graphica
[22:32] <zmoylan> what grapgics chipset is in your system?
[22:33] <zmoylan> *graphics
[22:33] <airurando> In my amateurish attempts to get it sorted I borked 12.10 yet again.
[22:33] <airurando> I've employed the 3 strikes and your out rule
[22:33] <airurando> back to 12.04 for me for the forseeable future.
[22:34] <airurando> not ubuntus fault.  My problem.
[22:34] <zmoylan> the perils of early adoption
[22:34] <airurando> indeed.
[22:34] <airurando> you need to be an expert which I am not
[22:35] <zmoylan> you shouldn't need to be but graphics chipset designers are notoriouslly secretive.
[22:36] <zmoylan> hence the famous linus comment on nvidia that made the news a few months ago.
[22:36] <airurando> aye
[22:38] <zmoylan> remember when first trying linux in the days of redhat 5.2 that it took days to get graphics working.  monitors had just being conquered and none had blown up in months :-)
[22:39] <airurando> for me in 1998/1999 redhat 5.2 just worked!  If it hadn't I'd have gotten nowhere (and that is still the case!)
[22:41] <zmoylan> i was trying it on abandoned hardware.  had a large box of thrown out video cards.  trying them out one by one till i got it working.
[22:43] <zmoylan> had found a full height tower server that someone had bought and then never used.
[22:46] <airurando> it was very much more suck it and see back then.  I was just lucky (had to be really)
[22:47] <zmoylan> and now you've been unlucky
[22:47] <zmoylan> i have a nettop.  barely achieves 1024x768 in windows but 800x600 in linux.  no way to improve it unfortunately
[22:54] <tdr112> evening
[22:55] <airurando> so how many more turned up at TOG?
[22:55] <airurando> hundreds I bet.
[22:56] <zmoylan> i think the problem is that oses aren't sexy
[22:56] <zmoylan> do people camp out for iphones in ireland?
[22:56] <airurando> very good point zmoylan
[22:57] <zmoylan> we don't do that level of fanaticism i think for tech
[22:58] <tdr112> airurando: it ended up rob slashbel ebel and I talking about god
[22:58] <airurando> ohhh soooo glad I left
[22:58] <zmoylan> which god and why? :-)
[22:59] <zmoylan> sorry, quoting long dark teatime of the soul
[23:03] <airurando> hehe
[23:09] <airurando> night
[23:10] <zmoylan> cya