=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:58] :-X === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === cortman is now known as thewildhaggis === thewildhaggis is now known as cortman === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [17:50] back - JIT [17:50] :) [17:50] superb [17:51] cariboo907 and coffeecat are also here [17:51] 10... 9... [17:51] 8 [17:52] 8 now? ;) [17:52] should be at zero already :P [17:52] hello howefield :) [17:52] :) [17:53] good day howefield [17:53] ...7 [17:53] hi cariboo907 :) [17:53] 6 [17:55] 5 [17:55] 4 [17:57] 4? [17:57] 3 [17:57] 4 what? [17:57] minutes [17:57] by my reckon [17:57] now 3 [17:57] ing [17:57] oic [17:57] is it not 18:00 then? [17:57] coffeecat you about yet? [17:57] we're all anxious [17:58] or obnoxious [17:58] we're all early, you know given we have been "elsewhere" for about 30 minutes or so [17:58] o/ [17:58] hey coffeecat , just wanted to check you were "here" [17:58] it says one minute here :D [17:58] 2 by mine [17:59] hey nothingspecial [17:59] hi Celene [17:59] are we already to start? [17:59] yep [17:59] Yes!!! [17:59] cariboo907, coffeecat , Iowan elfy s-fox ? [17:59] yep [18:00] o/ [18:00] o/ [18:00] alright.... here we go :D [18:00] o/ [18:00] #startmeeting [18:00] Meeting started Sat Oct 20 18:00:14 2012 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:00] #voters coffeecat cariboo907 elfy Iowan s-fox [18:00] Current voters: Iowan cariboo907 coffeecat elfy s-fox [18:00] #topic Ubuntu Forums FC meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Forums FC meeting [18:01] #topic Tutorials and Tips Forum - followup === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Tutorials and Tips Forum - followup [18:02] we tried to get this sorted in the last meeting, but we needed more discussion. we went and did that and now i think we are ready to go [18:02] this is coffeecat s item, so you go :) [18:03] I think the thread says it all: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2061708 [18:03] for the benefit of non staff members can I pecise what we talked about [18:04] We can adjust permissions of the old T&T forum to allow posting to old threads but not new ones for a transition period. [18:04] i personally am in support of changing the posting permissions [18:04] +1 from me too, I thought it was already done :) [18:04] alright, anyone mind if we skip to the vote? [18:05] I have no real opinion, but will support [18:05] i want to keep things moving and not stalled ;) [18:05] OK here [18:05] OK [18:05] +1 to that [18:05] +1 [18:05] #vote change permissions on T&T thread as outlined by coffeecat ? [18:05] Please vote on: change permissions on T&T thread as outlined by coffeecat ? [18:05] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [18:05] +1 [18:05] +1 received from s-fox [18:05] +1 [18:05] +1 received from coffeecat [18:05] +1 [18:05] +1 received from cariboo907 [18:05] +1 [18:05] +1 received from elfy [18:05] +1 [18:05] +1 received from Iowan [18:05] #endvote [18:06] Voting ended on: change permissions on T&T thread as outlined by coffeecat ? [18:06] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [18:06] Motion carried [18:06] woot :D [18:06] :) [18:06] Yay [18:06] next... [18:06] next item is the upgrade. [18:06] AFAIK the plugin is done and some kind of launchpad permissions thing is the blocker [18:06] anyone know anymore than i do about it? [18:07] well that's quite straight forward s-fox [18:07] waiting for IS to deal with 12.10 before they do more [18:07] IF it is working properly, I should be able to get the license number from kylebaker [18:07] but it'sa lot closer than it was [18:08] hmm, okay. maybe one of us should ping jorge? [18:08] i don't want to seem pushy or anything but we were here first and we're nearly finally ready [18:09] I can talk to IS next week s-fox [18:09] thanks elfy [18:09] move on ? [18:09] Do we need to pre-warn/involve TV for the theming? [18:09] would like to see lay of land afore I move to whining [18:09] coffeecat: we can test that in the test forum [18:09] coffeecat, pass. wouldn't be a bad idea to keep in the loop [18:09] Yes, it might happen all very quickly and the theme break! :) [18:09] indeed [18:10] just realised something... [18:10] I'll save questions/comments about "beans" for later [18:10] #topic Upgrade update ;) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Upgrade update ;) [18:10] lol [18:10] i am going to move on anyway... [18:10] #topic layout change followup === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: layout change followup [18:11] coffeecat and elfy have done a great job moving things around. thank you! [18:11] it seems a lot more logical now [18:11] +1 from me [18:11] anything to add? [18:11] Spring clean time! Great fun. :) [18:11] it also seems to be easier to add sub-forums [18:11] Is that gonna mess up my GM scripts? [18:11] hope not Iowan [18:11] it has.. i am working on a fix for the move script Iowan [18:12] it's mess mine too - not done so yet [18:12] i hit a little issue and then was rather unwell so hopefully will get on top of it soon [18:12] moving on... [18:12] #topic New User Restriction === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: New User Restriction [18:13] would like to talk to you about the scripts at some point s-fox [18:13] alright elfy can do :) [18:13] k [18:13] users restrictions is an easy one too [18:13] vote? [18:13] now that we have made us a little more spam proof there has been talk of lowering some of the post counts needed to unlock the cp [18:14] propose dropping level - gioven we can change when we need to [18:14] without coming to a meeting to do it [18:14] i think it has been discussed by the team at length and generally we agree so time to vote... [18:14] Threads/ welcome message will need to be changed [18:14] yep [18:14] naturally, but that is easy [18:14] yep [18:14] Iowan: I had foreseen that [18:15] easily fixed [18:15] yea [18:15] #vote adjust restrictions as outlined in the discussion thread? [18:15] Please vote on: adjust restrictions as outlined in the discussion thread? [18:15] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [18:15] +1 [18:15] +1 received from s-fox [18:15] +1 [18:15] +1 [18:15] +1 received from cariboo907 [18:15] +1 received from Iowan [18:15] +1 [18:15] There's the error message to - you don't ahve 50 beans - easily changed. [18:15] +1 received from elfy [18:15] +1 [18:15] +1 received from coffeecat [18:15] #endvote [18:15] Voting ended on: adjust restrictions as outlined in the discussion thread? [18:15] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [18:15] Motion carried [18:15] excellent :) [18:15] Whew - that was tough [18:15] really close [18:15] lol [18:15] :) [18:15] and a nice one to pass too [18:15] who wants to volunteer to make the changes? [18:16] o/ [18:16] okay :) [18:16] I'll do that _ i need to edit my sticky. [18:16] lol, you guys can sort it out between you? [18:16] Or Iowan instead [18:16] we could do that and the restr at the same time perhaps [18:16] ure... [18:16] ! [18:16] (s) [18:17] :) [18:17] #action coffeecat and Iowan to make the restrictions changes happen and update bits and pieces [18:17] ACTION: coffeecat and Iowan to make the restrictions changes happen and update bits and pieces [18:17] ;D [18:17] moving on.... [18:17] #topic create stickies for agenda items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: create stickies for agenda items [18:17] thoughts on somewhere for users to at leat talk about agenda items - maybe a forum/thread and some stickies in the support forums (closed) - suggest a sub forum in FFH - stickies in suppport and cafe - no trolling - more or less instaban - lets look for actually productive discourse from people if they want to join in - productive can be negative - if it is in fact looking to move things on [18:17] ... [18:17] that ^^ [18:18] yep those ... [18:18] I'm all for it, as it makes things a little more open for the membership [18:19] i think it is also good to have somewhere publicly accessible and not hidden away in areas not generally viewable [18:19] as long as we don't over-sticky [18:19] me too - unsurprisingly lol [18:19] Iowan: do you think that piskie would over sticky lol [18:19] anyone mind going to a vote? [18:19] vote [18:19] I'll be looking for ones to remove :) [18:19] vote [18:19] me too [18:20] vote [18:20] #vote create stickes for agenda items in public [18:20] Please vote on: create stickes for agenda items in public [18:20] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [18:20] +1 [18:20] +1 received from s-fox [18:20] +1 [18:20] +1 received from cariboo907 [18:20] + [18:20] +1 [18:20] +1 [18:20] +1 [18:20] +1 received from coffeecat [18:20] +1 received from elfy [18:20] +1 received from Iowan [18:20] #endvote [18:20] Voting ended on: create stickes for agenda items in public [18:20] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [18:20] Motion carried [18:20] Nice one :) [18:20] ain't we all agreeable today... [18:20] my lord - things being done :) [18:20] another yay from me :) [18:20] right...next topic... [18:21] #topic new presumed spammer usergroup === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: new presumed spammer usergroup [18:21] thats about right coffeecat ? [18:21] Yep [18:21] we're making a good guess at a spammer [18:21] I suggest "Banned Presumptive Spammers". Near the top of the drop-down for usergroup change then. [18:21] admins only [18:21] thats true [18:22] dealing with promotions at a later date [18:22] snce only staff can see group, you can call it whatever [18:22] * s-fox nods [18:22] yes - hence "presumtpive" [18:22] *presumptive* [18:22] Iowan: do my suggestion is ok then :P [18:22] i think it is worth trying, the pros and cons seem fairly well documented [18:22] thanks for that btw coffeecat [18:22] elfy: ??? [18:23] right, anyone mind going to a vote ? [18:24] vote [18:24] yep [18:24] +1 - early? [18:24] #vote introduce the new presumed spammer usergroup [18:24] Please vote on: introduce the new presumed spammer usergroup [18:24] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [18:24] +1 [18:24] +1 received from s-fox [18:24] +1 [18:24] +1 received from cariboo907 [18:24] +1 [18:24] +1 received from coffeecat [18:24] +1 [18:24] +1 received from Iowan [18:24] Iowan: early? [18:24] +1 [18:24] +1 received from elfy [18:24] #endvote [18:24] Voting ended on: introduce the new presumed spammer usergroup [18:25] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [18:25] Motion carried [18:25] who wants to create the new usergroup ? [18:25] * Iowan +1'd the vote idea [18:25] coffeecat ? [18:25] elfy, and I can do that. [18:25] alright :) [18:25] #action coffeecat and elfy to add the new group [18:25] ACTION: coffeecat and elfy to add the new group [18:25] s-fox: coffeecat and I can do that and any of the other stuff [18:25] oh good glad I was there to agree :p [18:26] lol [18:26] :P [18:26] :) [18:26] i have an item that is not on the agenda [18:26] as do I [18:26] npe ;) [18:26] i see someone wants a loco creating... i'll sort it out [18:26] really? [18:26] yes, really [18:26] go look and you'll see it [18:26] yeap - seen it [18:27] #action s-fox to sort the loco out [18:27] ACTION: s-fox to sort the loco out [18:27] what is your item elfy ? [18:27] just new forum Ubuntu members [18:28] why do we need one? [18:28] what is it for? :) [18:28] to make up the numbers lol [18:28] ? [18:28] serious head - guy has done an enormous amount of work [18:29] for the forum and the community wiki [18:29] well worth the badge in my opinion [18:29] o/ forum members is fixed agenda item anyway [18:29] didn't know that coffeecat [18:30] oh i misread what you posted elfy . lol [18:30] i thought you were suggesting a dedicated subforum [18:30] >.< [18:30] lol [18:30] alright, can we move on ? [18:30] cortman, are you here ? [18:30] yea [18:30] please [18:31] Indeed I am. [18:31] s-fox: we'll talk about the sub forum [18:31] elfy, k [18:31] one last chance to back out... [18:31] lol [18:31] o/ [18:31] #topic ubuntu forums ubuntu membership application === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ubuntu forums ubuntu membership application [18:32] i see cortman is applying for membership [18:32] can you tell us a little more about yourself please? :) [18:32] Well, [18:32] I've been on the forums pretty regularly for a year now [18:32] Actually a year today if I recall correctly. :) [18:33] I've tried to help out (it's been a learning process) on the forums and also on the Forum Wiki Team [18:33] Not much else to me, I suppose, lol. [18:33] thanks :) [18:33] The Forum Wiki Team work has been enjoyable- I've been glad to be part of that process. [18:33] ^especially. [18:34] it has been super busy moving things around [18:34] cortman: so can you say how well you've done in transcribing threads to wiki's [18:34] Oh, nothingspecial thinks I should add that I'm also active in IRC as well, mainly in #ubuntuforums. [18:34] so any help with that always goes down well [18:34] Well, I've tried to do my part elfy lol [18:34] cortman: or rather - how you've managed to deal with the team [18:35] while others have been off doing other things [18:35] Well, yes, in Wild Man's absence I've been trying to take up the slack- he's a real workhorse on that. [18:35] yep [18:35] alright, i think i am ready to vote. not sure on the others? coffeecat cariboo907 Iowan elfy ? [18:35] I'm hoping to get more involved in maintaining the community wiki as well [18:36] Ok for vote here. [18:36] I am [18:36] +1 for a vote [18:36] please [18:36] #vote cortman for ubuntu forums membership [18:36] Please vote on: cortman for ubuntu forums membership [18:36] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 received from cariboo907 [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 received from coffeecat [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 received from s-fox [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 received from elfy [18:36] +1 [18:36] +1 received from Iowan [18:36] #endvote [18:36] Voting ended on: cortman for ubuntu forums membership [18:36] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [18:36] Motion carried [18:36] congrats cortman :) [18:37] thanks s-fox :) [18:37] Celene, lol. i restricted voting at the start ;) [18:37] It's an honor- thanks to you all! :) [18:37] s-fox: :D [18:37] COngrats cortman :) [18:37] welcome cortman [18:37] thought elfy said I could vote in the membership. [18:37] Congrats cortman [18:37] Thank you coffeecat [18:37] And cariboo907 :) [18:37] and elfy :) [18:37] you do us the honour cortman [18:38] Celene, can we pick that up later? :) [18:38] cookies/pies? [18:38] Wow, I wouldn't say that, but thanks much elfy :) [18:38] like tomorrow or something? [18:38] lol [18:38] There'll be a lot of work once we close the T&T forum! ;-) [18:38] alright, last item is division of labour or "who wants to do what" [18:38] coffeecat: cortman is well aware ;) [18:38] :) [18:38] What can I mess up this month? [18:38] any volunteers for the ml ? [18:38] lol yeah./ [18:39] I'll take that s-fox [18:39] thanks elfy [18:39] #action elfy = ml [18:39] I can keep on doing what I was if no one else wants to do it [18:39] ACTION: elfy = ml [18:39] who wants the report, i did it last time and fixed a few bugs... [18:39] i can show someone how to do it if it'd help [18:39] I'll do the report [18:39] cariboo907: s'ok I will take the caolface this month [18:40] or i could do it all again ? [18:40] okay cariboo907, thanks! [18:40] do you know the setup ? [18:40] hi popey [18:40] hello elfy [18:40] #action cariboo907 = fc report [18:40] ACTION: cariboo907 = fc report [18:40] s-fox, I've done it once already [18:41] :) [18:41] I'll try to get cortman added to membership [18:41] okay cariboo907 , if you need any help or whatever ping me :) [18:41] cool [18:41] ah thanks Iowan [18:41] #iowan = ubuntu membership launchpad stuff [18:41] will do s-fox [18:41] gah [18:41] Iowan: I can do that and would want to [18:41] #action Iowan = ubuntu membership launchpad stuff [18:41] ACTION: Iowan = ubuntu membership launchpad stuff [18:41] >:) [18:41] bah [18:41]