[00:00] ok - I'm just installing all the Qt 4 stuff in the software center and we can see if that works :-) [00:00] again ... i am not taking ANY responsibilities for your system. just to make this clear :D [00:03] wb gonyere === gonyere_ is now known as gonyere [00:04] thnx [00:06] Silverlion, hehe - I know how to reinstall machine if something happens. I've had to do it more than once over the last few years as I venture ourside my comfort zone [00:07] *gg* i just wanted to have that on the logs - just in case i get a package from overseas :P [00:07] hello [00:07] bkerensa, so [00:07] are ther packages for sigil for ubuntu? [00:08] Silverlion, said I needed to install this - http://code.google.com/p/sigil/downloads/detail?name=Sigil-0.5.3-Code.zip&can=2&q= [00:08] gonyere: nope [00:08] or do you have to build? [00:08] gonyere: yes [00:08] compile from source :( [00:08] and then do this - http://code.google.com/p/sigil/wiki/RunningFromSource [00:08] bkerensa, ^^ [00:08] but once you have the software this is a blast [00:09] but I read on the page you shouldn't have to compile it - so I installed everything in the software center that had to do with Qt 4 [00:09] akgraner: apt-get build-dep qt4-qmake [00:09] to get dependencies [00:09] bkerensa, and so I am wondering what I need to do with that zip file now? [00:09] also you need git so [00:09] apt-get install git-core [00:09] I think I have git installed - no it's on my laptop [00:09] ok one sec [00:10] bkerensa, thank you! [00:10] so then you will want to [00:10] git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git [00:10] which is the source tree for the latest qt [00:10] then [00:10] cd into the directory [00:10] bkerensa, do I need to uninstall the stuff from the software center? [00:10] so "cd qt" [00:10] akgraner: uhh is it qt? [00:11] bkerensa, let me catch up [00:11] did you install qt from usc? [00:11] kk [00:11] bkerensa, got to the software center and search Qt 4 - you'll see [00:13] yeah so those are not qt4 they are qt4 packages for developing stuff [00:13] but I believe you need the qt4 libraries [00:13] ok - :-) [00:13] the actually source package [00:13] you can install this from USC btw [00:13] it might save you trouble [00:13] but terminal is easy too [00:13] :D [00:13] following your instructions now [00:13] I like the terminal [00:13] kk [00:13] should I uninstall what I did earlier? [00:14] you can do it later [00:14] ok [00:14] so once you got the source tree cloned with git and are in the directory let me know [00:14] :) [00:15] bkerensa, will do [00:16] akgraner: i have a little present for you ;) [00:17] akgraner: also before we compile please be sure to "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools" so you have everything needed to compile [00:17] akgraner@thor:~$ git clone git://gitorious/qt/qt.git [00:17] Cloning into 'qt'... [00:17] fatal: unable to connect to gitorious: [00:17] gitorious: Name or service not known [00:18] hmms [00:18] one sec [00:19] akgraner: gitorious.org [00:19] :) [00:19] <bkerensa> git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git [00:21] guess akgraner now is not open for presents :D [00:22] once sec [00:22] akgraner: once you add the .org to that command it will work but will take awhile since it has to pull the whole repo down :) [00:22] ohhhh [00:22] but after this the next steps are simple [00:22] oops [00:22] yes [00:22] :D [00:23] bkerensa, it's working now [00:23] akgraner: good :) [00:23] (Hey nigelb - isn't this funny that I am doing this :P) [00:23] akgraner: so this could take 10-15-20mins depending on your connection speed and the load on that server [00:23] the next steps are simple [00:24] akgraner: I'm enjoying watching ^_^ [00:24] bkerensa, It's counting remote objects now [00:24] if that means anything [00:24] akgraner: yeah so its counting how many files it has to download [00:24] :) [00:24] then it will actually clone them [00:24] :) [00:24] thats what takes time [00:25] akgraner@thor:~$ git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git [00:25] Cloning into 'qt'... [00:25] remote: Counting objects: 682273, done. [00:25] fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly [00:25] fatal: early EOF [00:25] fatal: index-pack failed [00:25] akgraner@thor:~$ [00:25] fail [00:25] so thats something on their end [00:25] :) [00:25] no kidding even I understood that [00:25] you can retry [00:25] :-P [00:25] until you get win [00:25] :D [00:26] akgraner: but you should continue your important work too ^^ [00:26] akgraner: Hah, do you fully do norse gods? [00:26] Silverlion: compiling source is always important work [00:26] ;p [00:26] And I always go for git, maybe I should get git-core [00:26] good morning Unit193 [00:26] Unit193: Git is just the meta package git-core is inside it [00:27] I think its just linked to git-core so either works [00:27] bkerensa, I am receiving objects now this is a good sign [00:27] good [00:27] hopefully their server doesnt failwhale again [00:27] bkerensa: Yes, one installs less. [00:27] darn Nokia people :P [00:27] Unit193: ahh I will have to look at Git and see what all it installs [00:29] bkerensa: http://pastebin.com/n0xECyuU :P [00:29] huh [00:29] git-gui [00:29] interesting [00:30] I fixed a bug in that package upstream [00:30] there is a gui for everything now [00:30] :-P [00:30] even Juju [00:30] its a shame [00:30] gitweb breaks, replaces, and suggests... [00:30] akgraner: That is, do you use norse gods for all computer names is what I meant. :P [00:31] Nope [00:31] my other machine is Spartacus :-) [00:31] pgraner cringes every time I add a new machine [00:32] * Silverlion smiles happily [00:32] gosh its 2.30 AM and i am still able to code valid CSS 3 :D [00:32] not because of the machines but my choice of names and how I choose them :-/ [00:33] bkerensa, I am at 20% - I see what you mean with "it takes a while" - Silverlion what was your present :-) [00:33] akgraner: you will have to get a flu shot before UDS this year :P [00:33] I already have [00:34] UDS-Q you got pretty sick :) [00:34] akgraner: i have coded a css file for your uwn ebook [00:34] me and phill were your neighbor [00:34] ;p [00:34] If pgraner had not been there I would have been in the hospital [00:35] bkerensa, I'm sorry - that was a rough UDS for me [00:35] akgraner: oh no worries I didnt hear you guys :) we just saw a lot of room service and know you were not feeling well [00:35] then 2 weeks later it was time for Connect - I was wiped our when I got back [00:35] s/our/out [00:35] I think I was more concerned with the lack of working room door and AC [00:35] ;p [00:35] nods [00:35] the hotel locked us out three times [00:36] :( [00:36] akgraner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290791/ [00:36] remaining steps ^ [00:36] once of the Southeast Linux Fest guys during SCaLE 9x actually got locked in his room the had to come take the door off to get him out [00:36] I have to walk away to marinate some chicken [00:36] bbs [00:36] cool thank you [00:37] this will be a while I am at 30% now [00:38] akgraner: please do also install this: http://www.epubread.com/en/ [00:38] ok [00:39] re [00:41] woo hoo - 45% [00:43] *gg* [00:43] my project is done 75 % [00:43] Yay! [00:43] you did an ebook version of the last issue of UWN :-) [00:45] well not completely ^^ [00:45] but i did the preparations for it [00:45] :-) sweet [00:45] 53% [00:47] hope you like it ^^ [00:47] at least the design is validated with w3c which means its correct *happy* [00:47] :-) [00:51] akgraner: wanna have a sneak preview of what we are going to do? [00:51] 77% [00:51] :D [00:52] silverlion, sure [00:52] akgraner: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1668987/UWN_Ebook-Draft__V1.png [00:52] this will be part of the final result :D [00:52] using the fonts Liberation Serif and Century Schoolbook :D [00:53] PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE tell me you like the style :D [00:53] we can't use the Ubuntu Font? [00:53] we can use every font you wish ma'am ;) [00:53] Can I get a RT? https://twitter.com/bkerensa/status/259457124705382401 [00:53] well yes, but can we work on branding it with the Ubuntu Orange and stuff at some point? :-) [00:54] bkerensa, /me looks [00:54] oh I love the olpc project [00:54] olpc is awesome -- I did some work with them a while back [00:55] akgraner: tell me what you need and i'll get it done for you ;) [00:56] cprofitt: if you get a chance a RT would go a long way :) especially since we are not at the summit :) and Fedora and other distros are :P we need to let them know we love their work [00:56] :D [00:56] nigelb, do you know where the branding guidelines/themes are - so we get the colors right (you know like what's on the Fridge or wiki pages) [00:56] akgraner: when will you be available? [00:56] i mean for recording 2morrow? [00:57] No clue. I've been out of Ubuntu things for a while. [00:57] I'm at 91% now [00:57] I might be able to make it around 7PM UTC [00:57] ohh - hmmm probably around 20:00 UTC [00:57] my kids have a band competition tomorrow and it's the only one I will get to see [00:58] that comes first off course [00:58] so looks like bbq is out... rain downpour :) fish tacos are in :) [00:58] bkerensa, you mean it rains there - wow [00:58] who would have thunk it [00:58] :-P [00:58] but i have to earn money on sunday so i might not be available this long tomorrow night [00:59] bkerensa: retweetet you via akgraner [00:59] silverlion, ok - I am trying to hurry but I can only go as fast as this git clone will allow :-) [01:00] If I get back earlier tomorrow - I'll ping you [01:00] akgraner: no worries :( [01:00] family comes first... it just passed 3AM on my clock and if I want to have some sleep at all i need to turn the machine down now [01:01] ok :-) I appreciate you staying as long as you have - I might see if bkerensa wants to jump on a hangout we can explain the first few steps :-) [01:01] akgraner: tonight or tomorrow? I am about to be deep in halibut taco making in about five minutes then listening to violin music :P [01:01] and what needed to happen before we get started with the actually making of the ebook [01:01] my fiancee just got a new violin so I'm cooking dinner :) [01:01] ok no worries [01:02] oh nice - sounds very relaxing - unless she is learning to play the violin [01:02] violins, bagpipes and banjos - eeek when people are learning [01:03] am i still needed ? [01:03] silverlion, one sec [01:03] kk [01:03] akgraner: she has played since youth :) she actually went to Wash DC and played for a few members of congress a few years back [01:03] she is pretty good [01:03] :D [01:05] 1 - Install Kompozer 2 download http://code.google.com/p/sigil/downloads/detail?name=Sigil-0.5.3-Code.zip&can=2&q= Step 3 install qt4 and all the dependencies step (see bkerensa steps) step 4 - install http://www.epubread.com/en/ what do I do with what I downloaded? [01:06] bkerensa, awesome! [01:06] ok git clone is done - now to follow the rest of the steps [01:06] akgraner: i dont get your question... *sorry* [01:06] akgraner: I only skimmed the scrollback. If you want to do UWN in a different format, I would be more than glad to tweak the scripts to handle converting the wiki to the new format. Just give me some sample output. [01:06] silverlion, - 1 - Install Kompozer 2 download http://code.google.com/p/sigil/downloads/detail?name=Sigil-0.5.3-Code.zip&can=2&q= Step 3 install qt4 and all the dependencies step (see bkerensa steps) step 4 - install http://www.epubread.com/en/ what do I do with what I downloaded? [01:07] nhandler, not a different format - an additional format :-) [01:07] akgraner: That's what I meant to say ;) [01:07] nhandler, just playing with an ebook [01:07] Cool [01:07] akgraner: you mean the picture i put in dropbox? [01:08] not step 2 what do I do with that zip file [01:08] silverlion, ^^ [01:08] s/not/no [01:08] nhandler, :-) [01:09] nhandler, I've been meaning to learn how to do this for a while - silverlion does the ebook format for Full Circle [01:09] nhandler: what are your plans for october 20th around 20.00 UTC [01:09] silverlion, nhandler created the awesome script magic we use now on UWN (thank goodness) [01:10] silverlion: I'll probably be driving around then. Should be back by 01:00 UTC on the 21st [01:10] nhandler: bummer would have invited you to the G+ Hangout to join akgraner [01:11] bkerensa, ok silly question when you say run - I don't actually type 'run' I just type everything after run - correct? [01:11] akgraner: with the zip file you need to follow the instructions page i gave you [01:11] silverlion: Don't worry about it ;) After the first ebook is made, I'll figure out some way to try and automate it [01:12] nhandler, I'll document all the step like I did with UWN :-) you know how I like to write down *all* the steps :-) [01:12] akgraner: That would be perfect. Thanks! [01:12] akgraner: maybe this will help : http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3631 [01:14] if nothing works http://sigil.googlecode.com/files/Sigil-0.5.3-Linux-x86-Setup.bin this is what i just found :( [01:14] akgraner: you are officially approved to kill me :/ [01:14] a setup bin ... I feel ashamed [01:15] it had not been listed on the download page [01:16] akgraner: ... are you mad at me? [01:16] no why [01:16] silverlion, no why - I am just typing commands [01:16] akgraner: no run [01:16] akgraner: just the command with the full tail of modules [01:17] k [01:17] akgraner: because i made you go all the way to compile and not directing you to the *.bin file [01:17] silverlion: but does the bin also have qt4 binaries? [01:17] silverlion, no - this is great [01:17] I love learning all this [01:18] bkerensa: no idea [01:18] akgraner: pgraner doesn't teach you? :) [01:18] silverlion, I would never get made at anyone who helps me expand my knowledge [01:18] bkerensa, hahahahahahahahaha..... [01:19] bkerensa, um you've meet him and been around us when we are both together right? [01:19] akgraner: uhh no I don't think I have seen you guys interact together [01:19] I have met him though [01:20] I made the mistake of suggesting a pizza place was open late night [01:20] and yeah idk :) he was not amused [01:20] ;p [01:20] hehe - there is a reason people don't see us interact [01:20] thats not very open source like [01:20] ;p [01:21] * bkerensa is now official gone to taco land [01:21] bkerensa, thanks for your help [01:21] silverlion, thank you - and we'll work on this some more tomorrow [01:22] bkerensa: have a good one ;) [01:22] akgraner: looking forward to put you to the test ^^ [01:23] me too - thanks [01:24] reporting off duty now [01:24] ;) [01:24] cu 2morrow (my TZ [01:25] yeppers - night [01:44] ok - I am stuck - nigelb thoughts looks like everything I was trying to compile didn't :-( [01:44] nigelb, this might help you - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1290895/ [01:45] Not sure why you were trying to compile qt in the first place. You can just apt-get install. Gimme a sec to figure out the right packages. [01:45] ok [01:45] I'll write up what I've done so far so I (well you) can see if I need to undo anything [01:46] libqt4-xml libqt4-svg [01:46] (that's not all, acceidental enter press) [01:48] akgraner: "apt-get install libqt4-xml libqt4-svg libqt4-webkit libqt4-dev" [01:48] After that, unzip that file you downloaded. [01:48] sudo right? [01:49] yes [01:49] :-) [01:49] I knew that :-P just asking [01:49] :) [01:49] ok unzipping it now [01:50] tell me where it's getting unzipped [01:51] ok I can see all the files - do I extract it or what (ok maybe it's not unzipped I just clicked on it and now I can see the file names) [01:52] aha [01:52] extractit. [01:52] err [01:52] extract it [01:52] if the file is zipped - why not say unzip grrrr [01:53] so I extract all files and let it re-create folders and overwrite existing files? [01:54] had you extracted this before? [01:54] nigelb, sorry to ask so many questions I just want to get it right (those were the boxes that were checked by default) [01:54] nope - not that I know of [01:55] akgraner: if we were to get on a google hangout, can you share your desktop with me? [01:55] probably easier that way :) [01:55] sure [01:55] give me 2 mins [01:55] k [01:55] sorry [01:56] I think dholbach and dpm are crazy about all this being "easy" this is soooo perspective driven :-P [01:56] hahah [01:56] ok [01:56] lets go [01:57] you want me to invite you [01:57] yeah [01:58] you should have the invite [01:58] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/f483afde454f8d135f7f8ec28d749d5e05664a2e?authuser=0&hl=en-GB [01:59] nigelb, did you get the invite? ^^^ [02:01] joining [06:03] akgraner: nope, haven't seem them [06:03] I know doctormo has them [08:11] akgraner; you did NOT name your systems thor and spartacus?! Why? =) [10:05] good day everyone! [10:07] bkerensa: ping [10:29] hi daviey [12:24] MrChrisDruif, :-P [12:24] JoseeAntonioR, oops sorry - haven't seem who/what? sorry late night - remind me of the context [13:08] good morning akgraner ;) how is your system ;) [13:09] fine - we got it compiled and working but I am about to head out the the competition [13:11] akgraner: have fun there [13:11] i need to do some gardening :( [13:12] thanks [16:31] akgraner: about the branding, doctormo is the one who has the branding for it [16:33] he created and updated the branding a couple months ago [16:33] or was it the classroom team? [16:42] hey JoseeAntonioR ;) [16:42] hi, Silverlion! [16:42] * Silverlion is preparing the speech for tonight [16:46] cool, I'd like to have some photos posted so we can link it in the UWN, maybe, if they're from your LoCo blog [18:06] JoseeAntonioR: what kind of photos? [18:06] of the speech [18:07] JoseeAntonioR: I wont post any pictures but you are free to do so if you want ;) [18:07] oh, well [18:07] only need to ask akgraner for permission [19:28] hey bizhanMona [19:29] Silverlion: hi [19:32] JoseeAntonioR: the speech is going to be delayed [19:39] oh [21:24] JoseeAntonioR; I know where you can spot doctormo if you're interested. [21:24] MrChrisDruif: he's online on #u-community-team atm [21:25] He's always online in #novacut , I don't scroll-down that much on #u-c-t [21:27] thanks! [21:42] hoi MrChrisDruif [21:42] Hoi Silverlion [21:43] seems like the vid will not be recorded tonight [22:28] MrChrisDruif: ping [22:28] Silverlion; pong [22:28] MrChrisDruif: why dont you react on G+? [22:29] ^^ [22:29] Because there is nothing to react to? [22:29] I heard one ping, ONE PING!! [22:30] Nothing to be found where it came from. [22:30] MrChrisDruif: i asked you a question there ^^ [22:30] whether you are willing to look into the ebook thing we talked about yesterday [22:30] I did not see something like that. [22:33] weird ^^ [22:33] I would be, but I must say I'm a midst a move from one place to another. Hopefully I go over next weekend. [22:36] MrChrisDruif: all the best for the move ^^ i have read it on FB - that is why i was asking [22:38] I'd put it on my to-do list. Been awhile since I last did something note worthy for Ubuntu. [22:44] kk I will turn the Computer off now