/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/20/#ubuntu-za.txt

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Kilosmorning guys06:00
Kilosi need some help please. i cant copy the script from opera or firefox. tried rightclick--no copy option06:02
Kilosalso tried control c. no good06:02
Kiloshi Tonberry 06:02
Kiloshttp://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-auto-connect-ubuntu-1204-gsm-mobile-broadband-connection-on-boot-startup-service#version206:02
Kilosthats the site06:03
Kilosis it s etting in my browsers?06:03
Kilosa setting06:03
magespawnmorning Kilos06:34
Kiloshiya magespawn 06:35
magespawni don't think there is a browser setting that affects that06:35
Kiloshow is one supposed to copy that script?06:35
Kilosi can never type all that out06:36
magespawnhold on let me see if i can06:37
Kilostried printing the page, doesnt give option of scrolling the script06:37
magespawnlet me just power up the lappy, my tablet does not let do some things06:43
Kilosnot a serious rush magespawn 06:46
Kilosbeen months of manual connecting06:46
Kilosjust weird that there isnt a way i can copy that script06:47
Kilosmaybe its a 12.02 thing06:47
Kilos12.0406:47
magespawnmaybe might be their website though06:48
Kilosi can copy/paste the rest of the text but not the script part06:50
magespawntry this Kilos http://slexy.org/view/s23EMWdUBI06:56
Kilosty mage06:57
Kiloshow did you do it06:57
Cantidewhen is the Durban meet? today?! or next week?!07:02
Kilostoday i think Cantide 07:03
Kilosnext week is the tvl one07:03
Cantidetvl?07:03
Cantidetoday i am TIRED07:03
Cantidehaha07:03
Kilostransvaal07:03
Cantideso so so sooooo tired07:03
Kilosgauten thing07:03
Cantidecool07:03
Kilosyeah is a bit cool today. we hope for rain07:04
Cantide:p07:04
magespawnKilos I just selected it in the normal way then Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V into slexy07:07
magespawnmade a copy for myself too07:08
Kilosty very much07:09
Kilosi hope that will fix the nm prob without causing others07:09
Kiloslast script i tried caused other hassles that made me clean install07:10
Kiloshehe07:10
Kilosi tried the ctrl -v into a file on desktop didnt work07:11
Kilosnice to have friends that know07:12
Kiloshey magespawn i had another idea too07:12
Kilosif one can make a bootable iso of boot-repair and burn to cd or stick that could help lots methinks07:13
magespawni think there are instructions to do that on the website07:14
Kilosah ill look into that i think07:14
magespawnvery handy thing to have around07:28
Kilosi think so07:32
Kilosyo zeref 07:36
Kilosyou dont hmmm so much anymore07:36
Kilosmust be growing up now07:37
Kiloshehe07:37
Kilosmorning superfly 08:05
Symmetriamorning08:20
Kiloshiya Symmetria 08:21
Symmetriaheh, so, 6:30am this morning, my dog wanders outside and goes and plays in the rain, comes inside full of energey, but decides she's cold... climbs onto my bed where Im fast asleep, some how climbs UNDER the blankets, and flops down right ontop of me... dripping wet and freezing cold08:21
Kiloseish08:22
Symmetriado you have any, any concept of how cold a dog feels when its covered in dripping freezing rain and lands on you when you al nice and warm in bed?08:22
Symmetria:P stupid pup08:22
Kiloslol08:22
Kilosi dont allow a dog near my room08:22
Symmetriathe other day she also decided she wanted to sleep on the floor, but didnt like the tiles, so she dragged the blanket off the bed and lay on it... while I was asleep :p08:23
Kiloshaha08:23
Symmetriaheh kilos, thing about weimeraners, they are people obsessed08:23
Symmetriaif you dont want a dog in the house and constantly around you, do NOT get a weimeraner08:24
Symmetriait will cry and cry and cry if you lock it out08:24
Kilosya staffies too but there limits to who i share my room and bed with08:24
Kilosim allergic to flees as well08:24
Kilosget the word know practised in a very dominant tone08:25
Kilosno08:25
KilosNO08:25
Kilosthe afrikaans peeps have a saying for that08:28
Kilosmaak jou stem dik08:28
Kilosyo xubuntu_ 08:30
xubuntu_*kug kug*08:30
xubuntu_:P08:30
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Kiloslive session user and all08:30
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nuvi_at_partyyeah08:30
nuvi_at_partyI'm running off xubuntu 12.10 08:30
Kilosenjoy the party08:30
nuvi_at_partyjust checking it out for today08:30
Kilossay hi to all for me08:31
magespawnnuvi_at_party: how is it going there?08:32
nuvi_at_partymagespawn, just getting started08:32
nuvi_at_partysetting up stuff still :P08:32
magespawncool, have you guys got a lot of bandwidth or not?08:33
nuvi_at_partymagespawn, there were talks about it08:38
nuvi_at_partybut i'm not sure ye08:38
nuvi_at_partyt08:38
nuvi_at_party*yet08:38
Kiloslol08:38
magespawnwas just wondering if you could put up a video link? maybe something like a google hang out?08:39
nuvi_at_partyhmm, I can try that on my phone :P08:50
nuvi_at_partyhrr, freakin gprs signal in here08:51
nuvi_at_party:-/08:51
Squirmthe boredom09:12
SquirmI'd have liked to go the the release party. but alas, 2 hours drive and no petrol moneys :/09:13
Kilostough in africa hey?09:17
* Symmetria is busy copying 500gig of music onto a harddrive for his gf *snore*09:19
Symmetriathis is gonna take forever, even with USB3 09:19
Kiloswhew09:20
magespawnSquirm: where are you?09:20
SquirmMooi RIver09:20
magespawnahh not along my lin of travel either09:21
magespawnlin=line09:21
Squirmno09:21
SquirmI was thinking of going09:22
Squirmwhen I was in the UK, we I went to a few BaB's (Bring a Box). Organise a free venue(someone on the list had access to one), everyone can bring their own pc, etc. a few people do small talks on something they're interested in09:23
Squirmwas like, once a month09:23
Squirmmaybe we should try and organise something like that around Durban09:24
Squirmone place I went to was the Nokia HQ :P09:24
magespawnwould be very cool, that way if you miss one you can always make the next09:25
Squirmyeah. it was just a social get-together09:25
Squirmbring lunch, have a braai09:25
Squirm(depending on the venue)09:26
SquirmI think I'll put it to the list09:26
magespawni have been looking a lot at hacker spaces, that is an ultimate dream for me09:29
SquirmI'm so annoyed I didn't  get to the one in London09:29
Squirmhttp://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Ductape09:30
Squirmblame SmileyBorg09:30
Kilosmagespawn, im gonna bring qp here just to see if the greeter is working09:36
Kilospeeps dont come and go on my channel09:36
Symmetriahrm09:38
SymmetriaIm gonna get myself into such deep trouble09:38
SquirmKilos: nothing09:38
Kiloswhy now Symmetria 09:38
Symmetria:P dating your friends best friend in secret without your friend knowing, thats looking for trouble09:38
Symmetria:P09:38
magespawnokay there might be an objection to that though09:38
magespawnhold on a sec09:38
Symmetriabecause friend is gonna find out Ive been seeing her best friend eventually, after warning me repeatedly not to go near her friends :p09:38
Symmetriasmall town, only so long before that gets out :p09:39
magespawnKilos I will rejoing your channel in a bit to see if it works09:39
Kiloseish Symmetria 09:39
Kilosmagespawn, 09:39
SquirmSymmetria: I suggest telling her :P Cause you know what's going to happen if she finds out via other source09:39
Squirms09:39
Symmetriahahaha I warned this chick, go tell kelly we're seeing each other, she's like, are you crazy, kelly will flip out and I gotta work with her09:39
Kilosi forget but it greets after you on for few dasy or weeks isnt it09:39
Symmetriasquirm haha not for me to tell her, gf can tell her if she chooses09:40
Kiloshehe09:40
* Squirm shrugs09:40
Symmetriabut its a small town, and I have a feeling gf and I were seen last night by this chicks other friends so I said to her, you better say something :p09:40
Squirmeither way Symmetria, let me know what happens when she finds out09:40
magespawnnot sure 09:40
Symmetriashe's like, not a fuck, I told her last night I was studying and oculdnt go out anywhere, she will kill me09:40
magespawnwill check 09:40
SymmetriaIm like, you told her WHAT?  lol09:40
Symmetriachickz, I tell you09:41
Squirmjust let me know what happens :P09:41
SymmetriaSquirm haha if Im still alive afterwards I will do that09:41
magespawnKilos got to go get some food09:41
magespawnbrb09:41
Kilosnp magespawn 09:41
Kiloshi charlvn 09:43
KilosSymmetria, friendship is more important than a fling09:50
Kilosunless you wanna marry the chick09:50
Symmetriakilos, bronwyn and I kinda, started as a fling, but its become a lot more than that :p09:51
Kiloslol09:51
Symmetriaand I kinda think Kelly would be happier if it were just a fling, as much of a friend as she is to me, haha she still views me as an older corrupting influence :p09:51
Kiloswhew when it comes to the female of the species one gotta tread lightly09:51
Symmetria(Kelly is 20, gf is 23, Im 32, almost 33, and well, both of those chicks are like, super innocent with no real world experience)09:52
Squirmtut tut tut Symmetria 09:52
Squirmshame on you09:52
Squirm:P09:52
Symmetriaand haha Kelly knows my history far 2 well, and well, she's aware of just how... not innocent I used to be :)09:52
Kiloslol they dont call you oom?09:52
Kiloshaha09:52
Kiloshey Symmetria did you chat around about a host for us?09:53
SymmetriaKilos hahaha I just have a bit of a reputation as being a bit of a player :p09:54
SymmetriaKilos aint been able to get holda him yet09:54
charlvnhi Kilos 09:54
Kilosok a rep is something one battles to get away from09:54
Symmetriacan someone do me a favour and open www.alstonnetworks.net, checking something on my log files09:55
charlvnok got it open09:55
Symmetriathanks :)09:55
Kilosjust remember the female of the species is often far deadlier than the male09:55
Symmetriajust wanted to make sure the logigng was working right09:55
charlvnmy ip is 82.74.148.4809:55
charlvncool09:55
Symmetriabtw :) any comments on that website are always appreciated09:56
* Squirm sets his bots on ChanServ 09:56
* Squirm sets his bots on charlvn 09:56
SquirmSymmetria: needs a favicon09:56
Squirm:P09:56
Kilosfavicon??09:57
Squirmthe little icon that appears in the title bar09:58
Symmetrialol09:58
Kiloswhat does it do Squirm 09:58
charlvnSquirm: your bots?09:58
SquirmKilos: http://mybroadband.co.za/favicon.ico09:58
Squirmhttps://www.google.co.za/favicon.ico09:59
Squirmhttp://www.raspberrypi.org/favicon.ico09:59
Kilosenough09:59
SquirmKilos: it just makes it look better :P09:59
Squirmand appears when you bookmark the page09:59
charlvnyou have a nice logo that you can easily resize into a favicon09:59
Squirmyep10:00
Symmetria*hrm* will do that :) 10:00
charlvnthere are a ton of tools online that will do the job for you10:00
charlvnlike this one: http://tools.dynamicdrive.com/favicon/10:00
Kilosthat tiny little icon10:01
Kilosi dont even see them10:01
Squirmyou just resize it to about 32x3210:01
Kilosis it an active thing10:01
charlvnthe only feedback i would have is that maybe you would like to consider having the menu options on the front page (like Network Auditing) expand with a little bit of javascript inside the same page10:01
charlvnthat instead of opening a whole new page10:01
charlvnyou can do that very easily with some jquery, just show and hide, you can even use animation10:01
charlvnhttp://api.jquery.com/show/10:02
charlvnhttp://api.jquery.com/hide/10:02
Symmetria*hrm* thanks :) thats a nice idea10:02
charlvnand personally i would put my contact details in the top-right corner of the page and do away with the top menu altogether10:02
Symmetriado I hve to do anything in the code to reference that favicon 10:03
Symmetriaor does it do it automatically10:03
charlvnautomatically10:03
charlvnthe browser checks the favicon.ico in the root of the site10:03
magespawnback10:03
charlvnwb magespawn 10:03
Symmetriawell. it should be there now10:03
Symmetria:p10:03
charlvnhmm strange that i don't yet see it10:04
charlvnlemme clear my cache10:04
charlvnhmmm10:04
SquirmI see it10:04
charlvnstrange i don't see it in chromium10:05
SquirmI do10:05
charlvni don't see it in firefox either - very strange indeed10:06
Squirmand I just closed and opened the page again10:06
charlvni've even restarted my browser10:06
charlvnbtw i just looked it up: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/howto-favicon10:07
charlvnthe preferred method does seem to be to have a <link type="icon" /> in your page10:07
charlvnand according to the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon10:07
Symmetriahrm, will add that in a few10:07
charlvnthe most well supported seems to be this: <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/myicon.ico" />10:08
Squirm<meta itemprop="image" content="/images/google_favicon_128.png"><title>Google</title>10:08
charlvnhmm, interesting, i haven't seen that used before10:09
Squirmneither have I10:11
Squirmbut then again. I don't really do websites10:11
charlvni would rather follow the traditional way10:12
charlvnfor compatibility10:12
SquirmI thought I'd check google, cause they'd go with compatibility10:12
Symmetria:) Brb, need a cigarette10:12
Squirmbut I really don't know. I just think a favicon looks good10:12
charlvninteresting: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#rel-icon10:13
charlvni don't care about favicons much myself but it does add a nice finishing touch10:13
charlvnjust makes it look well-worked-off10:13
charlvnwell rounded off or however you say it in english :P10:13
Squirmoh sweet. our cache is 25Gb. but on average, we're saving between 15%-20% bandwidth usage a day10:13
Squirmwhich is only about 1Gb10:13
Squirmbut on a 4mb line, it'll make a difference10:14
charlvnSquirm: how do you avoid stale cache issues?10:16
Squirmcharlvn: I don't know :P my first time I'm doing something like thise10:17
SquirmI let squid do what it does10:17
charlvni have a general hate against generic proxy caches due to various reasons, that being one of them10:17
charlvnbut it might be a benefit on low-bandwidth environments10:18
Squirmcharlvn: at any one time, we can have a max of 60 students + staff on the net10:18
charlvnserver-side reverse proxies can be really powerful though10:18
charlvnbut that's under the developer's control10:18
charlvnwhere i work we have about 15.000 but then again we have a lot more bandwidth :)10:19
Squirmwe're getting 4x4mb lines in January10:20
Squirmcharlvn: where do you work?10:20
charlvnSquirm: i prefer not to say10:20
Squirmok10:20
* Squirm yawns10:22
Symmetriaheh, in most cases because of the speed lines Im used to working with, we find that proxy servers actually just end up bottlenecking10:22
Squirmoh shut it10:22
Squirm:/10:23
Symmetriaheh Squirm the problem is trying to explain that to the client10:23
Squirmmeh10:23
Symmetria"Get rid of your proxy server" "zomg why" "because its making your network slow"10:23
Squirmlol10:23
Symmetriathen they are like, can't we upgrade it to handle the bandwidth10:23
Symmetriaand Im like, well, you can, but here is what thats gonna cost10:24
Symmetria:P then they throw it out10:24
SquirmI wish my line was fast enough to make a proxy pointless10:24
Squirmhopefully next year it'll be better10:24
* Symmetria just ordered his new home wireless gear10:24
Squirmstupid exchange can only handle 4mbit10:25
Symmetriaheh, complete overkill for a house, and spent WAY 2 much money10:25
Symmetriabut I'll have the sweetest wireless setup anywhere10:25
SymmetriaI've gone with a 5 AP Aruba config with a controller that lets me roam between APs without any hit whatsoever10:25
Symmetriait even does proper signal degradation handoff and jams any APs that arent authorized 10:26
Squirm...10:27
SquirmI want a pair of these10:27
Squirmhttp://www.ubnt.com/airfiber10:27
SquirmR16k a pop from Miro though10:27
Symmetriaheh squirm the Aruba stuff is around 4 to 5k an AP and then like, 60k for the controller, but its amazing gear, truely amazing10:29
Squirm...10:31
charlvnfor those who haven't seen this yet, quite cool: Explore a Google data center with Street View http://youtu.be/avP5d16wEp010:44
Squirmwow10:54
magespawnvery wow11:05
charlvnthis is a relatively old post but also interesting: http://gigaom.com/cleantech/a-rare-look-inside-facebooks-oregon-data-center-photos-video/11:06
magespawnSquirm: i was looking at the wavion eqiupment from Miro11:07
magespawnthis particularly11:08
magespawnhttp://www.miro.co.za/detail.aspx?pid=1851&p=&sp=&spp=11:08
magespawnanybody know some good online material to learn how to use a mulitmeter, preferable video?11:14
charlvneach multimeter is different11:15
charlvnbut they are generally very easy to use11:15
charlvnwhat exactly do you want to do?11:16
magespawnjust not sure how to use all the functions11:16
charlvnjust look up your particular model11:16
charlvnmaybe you can find a guide online11:16
magespawndid find some, just thought to ask, maybe there was one hidden away somewhere11:23
Kiloswhat you wanna measure magespawn 11:25
Kilosmultimeter as in volts ohms amps resistance etc?11:25
magespawnyes Kilos, only really know how to use the volatge tester11:26
Kilosthey quite simple to use11:26
Kilosok so volts dc and ac you got11:27
magespawnyup11:27
Kiloswhat more you wanna know11:28
magespawnthere is one section with the F symbol, not sure what that does?11:28
Kilosyou sure its F11:29
Kilosmost have 2 volts 1 mV11:29
Kilosohms11:30
magespawnyup with measurements in 200u, 20u, 2u, 200n and 20n11:30
Kilosthat upside down crazy u thing11:30
Kilosthats for resistance11:30
magespawnyeah have that too11:30
magespawnwith measurements in 20011:30
Kilosthen it be new stuff maybe frequency11:30
Kilosor farads11:31
Kilosnever seen a meter with that on11:31
Kilosfarads measure condensors11:31
Kiloscapacitors11:31
magespawnhmm well will do some research online11:32
Kiloswe just used ohms and look for kick in meter then revewrse leads for another kick11:32
Kerberonew multimeters can measure capacitance 11:33
magespawnfor ref it is this one http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/weihuaelectronic/product-detailybomnxQKaE11:34
Kerberolink doesn't work11:35
magespawnsorry 11:35
magespawnhttp://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/weihuaelectronic/product-detailybomnxQKaEhZ/China-Digital-Multimeter-DT9205A-.html11:35
Kerberoit seems ok11:36
Kerberowhat price?11:36
magespawnbought it some time ago so not sure but I think about R30011:37
Kerberoif you shop around you will even find ones that can measure temperature humidity and decibells (sound)11:37
Kerberothat is an OK price for that thing11:37
kodezgreetings to all11:55
Kiloswhew, heavy hail storm. 8ta tower died for a while too11:56
charlvnwow11:58
Kilossome bits bigget than top of beer bottle11:59
Kiloscap11:59
charlvnthat's not exactly fine hail but i've seen pieces of hail much bigger than a golf ball12:00
charlvnwe had that a few times in george12:00
Kilosnot healthy to walk around in that methinks12:06
charlvnnope life endangering more like it :)12:06
charlvnit caused serious damage12:07
charlvnluckily we didn't suffer any damage but some people's cars got messed up and glass panels on the roof got broken12:07
charlvnhail got inside the house, ruined everything12:07
charlvnbig insurance disaster, because insurance doesn't want to pay for natural disasters sometimes12:07
charlvnetc etc i could carry on12:07
charlvnbut just by the sound on the roof it felt like a full-out onslaught!12:08
Kilosyeah we got a tin roof here, couldnt here myself think12:09
charlvnphew12:27
charlvnok yes, i was in a building with one of those as well12:27
charlvni know what you mean :) now imagine gold sided (or larger) hail on a tin roof12:27
charlvnlol12:27
magespawngold sided? golf sized?12:32
Kiloslol12:34
Kilosgolf man12:34
Kilosgolf ball size12:34
Kilosonly 10mm rain though12:34
charlvnmagespawn: golf sized lol13:00
charlvnhow the heck did i type gold sided13:00
magespawnno idea, did make for stange reading though13:01
charlvn:D13:01
charlvnthat would have been awesome though13:01
charlvngold raining from the sky13:01
charlvn_very_ dangerous, but awesome13:01
charlvnwow that would destroy everything on the ground, gold is heavy13:01
charlvnmy uncle worked at a mine for many years13:02
magespawnmake everyone rich, and kill the world economy instantly13:02
charlvni think it will just devalue the price of gold drastically :P13:03
charlvnbut we could make computer chips with the gold13:04
charlvnit's a very good conductor i think13:04
charlvnor no, that was silver actually13:04
magespawnlook like they had some fun at the Durban release party13:04
charlvnpics or it didn't happen :)13:04
magespawnyup pics are up on g+13:06
charlvnurl ? :)13:11
magespawnhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114667672517793596439/albums/580131872666626126513:16
charlvnah yes13:17
charlvnvery nice13:17
magespawni think they must either love or hate geeks at that coffee shop13:18
Squirmcool13:19
charlvnvery nice!13:19
Squirmwant to go now :/13:19
magespawnindeed13:19
charlvnwow, they even brought a wireless router or something with them?13:19
charlvnhard core!13:19
magespawnon my way homw, bye all13:35
charlvnciao14:27
Kiloshmm that script doesnt work magespawn 14:30
Kilosgo sharks14:32
Kiloslets win something today14:32
Kilosoh i didnt go all the way with that script14:45
Kilosw0000t works like a dream14:51
Kilosnow just 6 more workspaces and i could live with unity14:55
smileE17:)16:06
Kilosyo smileE17 16:11
smileE17hi smileE17 16:13
smileE17I learned some Afrikaans words today :)16:13
Kilosnice16:13
Kiloswbb gotta go inject a dog by neighbour for mange16:14
charlvnhi smileE17 16:28
charlvni hope those are good words, not curse words16:28
charlvn:)16:28
smileE17no, charlvn :p16:29
smileE17for example 'n pynappel16:29
smileE17:p16:29
charlvnoh i see, a annanas :)16:32
charlvn*an16:32
charlvn*ananas16:33
charlvngoodness gracious16:33
charlvni need some coffee :)16:33
Kiloslots16:34
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Kiloshey Trixar_za 16:38
smileE17yeah, charlvn :) pineapple :p16:39
Trixar_zaHey Kilos16:40
smileE17http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliestoei :D16:47
charlvnwhat the16:53
charlvnwhat kind of weird crap are you finding :)16:53
smileE17well someone told me about it :P17:08
smileE17And it was fun to share :)17:08
charlvnheh17:10
charlvnoooh i just bought some belgian beer, a 6-pack of bruine leffe17:11
charlvnvery nice17:11
smileE17:D17:18
smileE17where did you buy it charlvn ? :)17:18
inetprogood evening17:25
inetprowhere can I find MP3 music legally in South Africa via (k)Ubuntu?17:26
* inetpro can't even buy it via Amazon17:27
smileE17inetpro: well I have a combination of YT with Greasemonkey/http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/62634 & FFmpeg (sh script) :D17:32
inetproyikes!17:33
smileE17but maybe that's to difficult for you? :P17:33
inetprobuying music online seems like a mission impossible17:41
smileE17groete,smile4ever or groet, smile4ever (in an e-mail)17:42
inetprogroete17:42
inetproor even groetnis17:42
smileE17wat beteken groetnis? :p17:43
inetprogreetings17:43
smileE17Okay :)17:43
smileE17dankie, inetpro 17:44
smileE17setsjhaba sa, south africa :p17:45
smileE17uit die blou van onse hemel17:45
smileE17uit die diepte van ons see17:45
smileE17oor ons ewige gebergtes17:45
smileE17:D17:45
inetprosmileE17: wat maak jy?17:54
smileE17inetpro: wat sou ek moet maak? :)17:55
inetprosmileE17: jy praat van ons volkslied en al18:00
inetproek wonder maar net18:01
smileE17ek is besig met die kultuur te leer, inetpro :)18:01
smileE17& please correct me if I make mistakes18:01
inetproai18:01
smileE17I think 'met' doesn't need to be there :p18:02
inetproek is besig om die kultuur te leer?18:02
smileE17ja? :)18:02
smileE17:D18:02
inetprosmileE17: wat het jy met kilos aangevang?18:03
inetprohoekom is hy nie hier nie?18:03
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smileE17ek het oom kilos opgeëet18:04
smileE17hy is nou verteer, inetpro 18:04
smileE17:p18:04
inetprosjoe18:04
smileE17maar ek sal oopgesny word :P18:06
smileE17en oom kilos sal terugkeer18:06
smileE17:p18:06
smileE17(in a slightly different form)18:06
smileE17:p18:06
inetprosmileE17: jy is baie stout vanaand!18:06
smileE17ekskuus, inetpro :(18:06
* smileE17 gee inetpro 'n drukkie18:07
inetpronee meneer, ek soek nie drukkies nie18:07
smileE17hou jy nie van drukkies nie? :p18:08
* smileE17 tover oom kilos terug18:11
charlvnsmileE17: at the albert heijn just behind my apartment18:15
charlvnsorry for slow response, busy watching a movie :)18:15
smileE17charlvn: they sell it in the AH? lol :)18:15
smileE17which movie? :D18:16
charlvnsmileE17: yup, i was quite impressed when i saw it :) i live quite far from belgium so it's convenient ;)18:16
charlvni live very close to germany though so that is a benefit as well ;)18:17
smileE17:D18:19
smileE17bye! :)18:30
smileE17good night18:30
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* inetpro disappointed that the Amazon MP3 Downloader is not supported on Linux18:47
inetprook have just bought me first music at www.lookandlisten.co.za19:22
kbmonkeySymmetria, I have hit a .htaccess snafu, do you know about this file for me to fire a question?20:05
inetprokbmonkey: what's wrong with your .htaccess file?20:31
kbmonkeyoh hi inetpro 20:32
inetprowb kbmonkey20:33
kbmonkeyits simple, really. because of the nature of the site I have, it is static html files.20:33
kbmonkeybut I want to integrate a php based comment system. so I added a AddType to process .html as php. It actually works great when you browse the site root :)20:34
inetprook20:35
kbmonkeybut the moment you browse to a absolute URL, like site.com/somepage.html, the php inside the file do not get processed20:35
kbmonkeybut if I browse the site root, i.e. site.com (no html file specified), it does work.20:35
kbmonkeythat is, the index.html file works, but any other file does not.20:36
inetprowhat's your statement?20:36
kbmonkeyAddType application/x-httpd-php .php .html20:36
inetpromine works with the following20:37
kbmonkeyone would think that will apply to all .html files, but it only works on index.html20:37
inetproAddType application/x-httpd-php .php .htm .html20:37
inetprokbmonkey: but I apply that directly in the apache config inside a directory context20:39
inetpromaybe that is the key20:39
kbmonkeyyes, I think you may be right20:40
kbmonkeyYour line I tried that line of yours as well, no luck20:40
inetprohmm...20:40
inetprohttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_mime.html#addtype20:41
inetproaccording to that teh context can be: server config, virtual host, directory, .htaccess20:41
inetprothe*20:41
* superfly prefers dealing with non-braindead technologies20:41
superflykbmonkey: why not use disqus?20:41
kbmonkeya proprietary closed-source comment system? no thanks ;)20:42
superflywritten in Django/Python and used by millions of people world wide, with an active security team and a way to export all your data so that it is yours...20:43
superflykbmonkey: as opposed to your home-grown solution which will break the moment I look at it because it is written in PHP and you haven't thought of all the possible routes to break it?20:43
kbmonkeyI guess its not that bad superfly, I am just on a mission to learn by playing around20:43
superflykbmonkey: learn a programming language, not a badly mangled toy20:43
superflykbmonkey: sorry, not trying to jump down your throat, just tired of all the really bad PHP solutions out there20:44
superflywhich seem to proliferate at a rate which is the envy of the computer hardware industry20:45
superfly(not that Python is completely immune to that, but it happens FAR less often)20:46
kbmonkeyhell superfly, you are correct. I checked and my server supports Python :)20:47
superflykbmonkey: most do these days, actually20:47
superflysometimes they're a little on the braindead side on how it is implemented (most still do CGI when WSGI is by far easier and much faster)20:48
* superfly has been playing around with Flask a little lately, and likes how small and simple it is20:48
superflyI'd use Pyramid for a proper app any day, but for something to quickly throw together, Flask is hard to beat20:49
* inetpro surprised that superfly still likes drupal20:49
kbmonkeyI'm using pelican, a Python static blog that uses Markdown20:49
superflyinetpro: there's no proper Python CMS yet20:49
superflyand don't tell me Plone20:49
superflyyou need a server farm just to run one instance of Plone20:50
superflyand you need root on the server, and a whole bunch of other things20:50
superflyit'll take a LOT to beat Drupal, and there's nothing in the Python world that is remotely close to it20:50
superflyor Wordpress, for that matter20:50
inetprosuperfly: so when do you expect will we see a proper Python CMS?20:51
superflyinetpro: Never. In the Python world everyone is too busy building proper applications20:51
inetprohmm...20:51
Vince-0Django ?20:52
superflyinetpro: I've seen a few... there's one based on Django whose name escapes me20:52
kbmonkeylol superfly :)20:52
superflyVince-0: Django is the worst solution in the Python world. Use Pyramid or Flask20:52
Vince-0ow ok if you say so, I just read about these things20:53
superflyinetpro: but in reality none of them matches Drupal's flexibility and "enchancability"20:53
superfly*enchanceability"20:53
kbmonkeywell Im avoiding a CMS framework or the heavyweights for a light, personal blog20:53
superflykbmonkey: I actually started writing a blog in Python, but life got in the way20:54
superflyhttp://code365.info/ (if it's still up)20:54
superflymeh20:54
superflyit's not.20:54
kbmonkeyI see the python wiki has a list of blog engines. neat20:54
superflyhttps://launchpad.net/scribeengine20:55
inetprokbmonkey: wordpress is very popular for light personal blogs20:55
superflyinetpro: wordpress is not light20:55
kbmonkeymost of them integrate disqus20:55
charlvnwell that's all relative20:55
superflyDrupal is lighter than Wordpress these days. My poor MySQL was dying under Wordpress's queries20:55
inetprosuperfly: hmm... I guess not anymore20:55
charlvnwhat is light and what is heavy i mean20:56
kbmonkeywell im moving away from wp20:56
inetprowow20:56
charlvncompare wordpress for example against oracle's weblogic and then you have a super light weight solution :)20:56
charlvnthat doesn't mean wordpress is really light-weight or efficient though20:56
charlvnmost people seem to run wordpress on a shared host so they don't care much about efficiency or security20:57
kbmonkeybasically I want to write a post in markdown, render to html, and rsync the content up. dont need or want wysiwyg editors20:57
charlvnkbmonkey: you could do that with github even20:57
kbmonkeyindeed charlvn :()20:57
charlvngithub pages, i once made a site like that for myself20:57
charlvnand then you can even host it straight on github under your own hostname20:57
charlvndomain i mean20:58
inetproyikes, you guys have interesting ideas20:58
kbmonkeyits all lipstick on chickens20:58
charlvnnice thing is that github even transforms the markdown for you20:58
charlvnlol20:59
kbmonkeythanks for the help inetpro21:00
KilosKsuperfly, inetpro you guys here21:00
KilosKhi kbmonkey 21:00
inetproMaaz: quote of the day is its all lipstick on chickens21:00
kbmonkeyand superfly 21:00
Maazinetpro: Got it21:00
kbmonkeyhello KilosK 21:00
superflynp kbmonkey21:00
inetproMaaz: no quote of the day is its all lipstick on chickens - by kbmonkey21:01
charlvnhi KilosK 21:01
Maazinetpro: If you say so21:01
KilosKthere is a herb called feverfew21:01
superflyhi KilosK21:01
inetprowb KilosK21:01
inetprokbmonkey: you're welcome21:02
KilosK1 1/2 large or 3 small leaves on a sandwick 2x a day will slowly fix your migraines21:02
KilosKfound it in old notes of mine21:02
inetprosandwick?21:02
KilosKsandwich21:02
superflyall the time? every day?21:02
KilosKtoebroodjie21:02
inetpro:-)21:02
KilosKtill you dont have them anymore21:03
kbmonkeyare you sure you dont smoke those leaves, KilosK ? ;)21:03
KilosKit was written in my not so important notes because i never had migraines21:04
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee on21:04
* Maaz flips the salt-timer21:04
KilosKhaha kbmonkey you twit21:04
KilosKMaaz, coffee please21:04
MaazKilosK: Done21:04
inetproMaaz: coffee please21:04
Maazinetpro: Righto21:04
inetproa last one for the night21:04
KilosKi just woke a while ago. crashed early with a head21:05
superflyI'm getting me a real one of those21:05
inetproeish superfly, to late now21:05
inetprotomorrow is Sunday21:06
KilosKlol never too late21:06
KilosKthat story that coffee keeps you awake is an old wives tale21:06
KilosKonly works on old women21:06
KilosKwhat did i miss guys??21:07
kbmonkeyunless it is 3 espressos 21:07
KilosKkbmonkey, are you well lad?21:07
kbmonkeywe had a nice ubuntu release meet today21:08
MaazCoffee's ready for kbmonkey, KilosK and inetpro!21:08
KilosKgreat, got pics??21:08
kbmonkeysaw nuvolari and william and co21:08
KilosKMaaz, ty21:08
MaazYou are welcome KilosK21:08
kbmonkeyyes, i will find the pics on g+21:08
KilosKthey must be given to eil for reports21:09
KilosKneil21:09
kbmonkeyok :)21:09
KilosKnot-found fella21:09
KilosKwrite a little story with too21:09
KilosKwe gotta try get lots in for our reaxceptance thingie year end21:10
KilosKwhew21:10
KilosKreacceptance21:10
KilosKi give up21:10
KilosKkbmonkey, my bot only greeted once that i saw, have you ideas?21:12
kbmonkeyoh yes? which # is it on?21:12
KilosK##kilos21:13
inetproKilosK: I had a power failure last night until later this morning21:13
kbmonkeylet me enter and see...21:13
KilosKeish inetpro 21:13
inetprountil I fixed it myself, that is21:13
KilosKwhat was wrong inetpro 21:13
inetprodamn thing tripped at the pole21:14
kbmonkeyif i recall KilosK, it wont greet people if there was people talking in the last 5 mins or so21:14
KilosKoh ya21:14
* inetpro tried to contact everyone possible at the city council this morn, without luck21:14
inetproso I eventually just took a long pole and switched it on myself21:15
KilosKactually inetpro service is falling apart badly all over21:15
kbmonkeyeish21:15
KilosKniece stays somewhere in town and was without water for 2 days21:15
KilosKinetpro, well done21:16
charlvninetpro: wow, isn't that dangerous?!21:16
KilosKnot if the pole wood21:16
KilosKdry wood21:16
inetprocharlvn: I seriously didn't like the idea but man, I can assure I would be without power even now if I hadn't done that21:16
kbmonkeyas long as you jump in the air while you switch it ;)21:17
KilosKlol21:17
inetprofridges would have started unfreezing21:17
inetproand tomorrow morning I would definitely be having cold water for the shower21:17
KilosKsuperfly, all natural remedies work slowly on your system but they arent bad for you like meds21:17
charlvninetpro: yeah sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do21:18
inetproand I know it was only tripped because of yesterdays storm that we had21:18
KilosKthey actually teach your system to fight the problem so you gotta be patient21:18
KilosKinetpro, we had hail yesterday and today21:19
KilosKbig hail this avy21:19
inetprosjoe21:19
inetprowe just had very small slush puppy hail21:20
KilosKai it was heavy on the tin roof21:20
KilosKsome pieces were nearly twice the size of a beer bottel cap21:20
inetproat least the kids called it slush puppy, oh and that was yesterday while I was still at the office21:21
inetprowow21:21
KilosKif swaar didnt drink i woulda had to find other gauge21:21
KilosKlots of fruit of plum and peach trees21:22
KilosKoff21:22
KilosKi go sleep again. ty for the chats21:22
KilosKlook after yourselves21:22
KilosKsleep tight21:22
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