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[21:52] <mjhouska> hello
[21:53] <ailo> mjhouska: Hey
[21:53] <studio-user176> Hey all
[21:53] <mjhouska> need help wit installing ATI drivers
[21:53] <mjhouska> just upgraded to ubuntustudio 12.10 from 12.04  chipset is HD3000 in a Biostar A780L3G mobo. nee proceedure to reinstall ATI drivers as Additiona drivers has been rendered usless appearently. It looks cool in it's new tab location, but it offers no options to install a driver. it seems it's just set up for switching between drivers already installed.
[21:54] <studio-user176> Does anyone know of a good DVR IP camera web stream server?
[21:55] <ailo> mjhouska: It does install drivers. You need to reboot of course for the changes to happen. I was trying to install ATI drivers on a friends computer, but was unable to get the proprietary ones working
[21:55] <ailo> The default open source drivers were awesome in performance. Was playing Halflife on Steam, but there was a problem with overheating
[21:56] <ailo> mjhouska: The problem with the drivers is not at all specific to Ubuntu Studio though, and from what I know, none of the devs have ATI
[21:56] <ailo> So, you might have better luck asking on #ubuntu, or some other related channel
[21:57] <studio-user176> try     sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 dkms ia32-libs <== ia32-libs only for 64 bit install     cp to directory containing the driver     sh ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/jaunty     sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_*.deb fglrx-kernel-source_*.deb fglrx-amdcccle_*.deb     sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk <== This may not be necessary, 
[21:57] <ailo> studio-user176: You're looking to stream video?
[21:57] <ailo> studio-user176: Except, it's not a Ubuntu/jaunty package :)
[21:58] <studio-user176> the process is the same
[21:58] <studio-user176> well up to 2 releases ago
[21:58] <studio-user176> i know it work just changing the vresioning info
[21:58] <studio-user176> versioning
[21:58] <ailo> Wasn't working for me though
[21:59] <ailo> mjhouska: The method studio-user176 is proposing is used when downloading the official AMD driver from their website, and not using the one in the repos
[21:59] <studio-user176> and yes Ailo ipcam to stream rtmp to dvr and to web
[22:00] <ailo> holstein: Did you know something about video streaming?
[22:00] <ailo> I have never done that
[22:01] <studio-user176> i was looking at flussonic but wanted to know if anyone took on this endeavor around here vs the typical forum search :D
[22:03] <studio-user176> mjhouska I looked for a sec and found people having issues with drivers installs and 12.10 upgrade
[22:03] <studio-user176> http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10
[22:04] <studio-user176> hope that helps
[22:07] <ailo> It is amazing how good the open source drivers are at this point. If it weren't for the issue with overheating, I would have seen no sense in installing the proprietary ATI drivers
[22:08] <ailo> Because of that, there's no way my friend is able to use 12.10 on his computer.
[22:10] <mjhouska> afk a sec
[22:11] <ailo> er, Halflife 2, btw. Not HL the original
[23:24] <mjhouska> well it looks like one of the soutions is haveng me install unity LoL at least i'll have have the option to switch to xfce after the drivers are installed
[23:24] <holstein> mjhouska: the graphics drivers arent tied to any desktop
[23:25] <holstein> mjhouska: where are you getting the kernel modules?
[23:25] <mjhouska> not sure
[23:26] <holstein> i dont typically install software that im not sure where it comes from.. that could be why you have unity depends
[23:26] <holstein> mjhouska: did this used to work?
[23:26] <holstein> !ati
[23:26] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[23:26] <mjhouska> i'm going by this http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10
[23:27] <mjhouska> and it is installing unity
[23:27] <holstein> sudo apt-get install lightdm ubuntu-desktop
[23:27] <holstein> ^^ that is in that copy/pasted list of commands
[23:28] <mjhouska> yeah
[23:28] <holstein> well, as long as you realize you asked for unity to be installed
[23:29] <mjhouska> i upgraded 12.04  to 12.10 from cd [ubuntu sudio]
[23:29] <holstein> its not a bug, or something broken.. you asked for unity... ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <holstein> did you just manually install fglrx ?
[23:29] <mjhouska> I guess i  can un installit
[23:29] <holstein> mjhouska: you can reinstall ubuntustduio-desktop
[23:30] <holstein> ubuntustudio-desktop
[23:30] <mjhouska> possiby
[23:30] <holstein> ubuntu-desktop will likely remove it
[23:30] <holstein> mjhouska: its not "possibly".. you can if you want. if you want the ubuntu-studio xfce desktop instead of unity
[23:31] <holstein> mjhouska: did you just manually install the drivers?
[23:32] <mjhouska> yep tried that and it hosed. got low resolutions
[23:32] <holstein> mjhouska: did you try different xorg.conf?
[23:32] <holstein> mjhouska: that will likely be the issue
[23:32] <mjhouska> nope
[23:32] <holstein> in that link i gave a second ago, that is referenced
[23:32] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[23:33] <holstein> i usually get an xorg.conf from something like knoppix.. somethig i know works well with that actual hardware
[23:33] <mjhouska> i'll try that next if this doesnt work
[23:33] <holstein> then i specify the driver i want
[23:33] <holstein> mjhouska: you'll likely try that now with that driver too
[23:36] <mjhouska> it's asking  to restart now. brb hopefully.
[23:38] <mjhouska> will check your link out next. at least i'll lear nsomething
[23:39] <holstein> mjhouska: you can ask in #ubuntu or #xubuntu too if its dead in here.. since its more of a general ubuntu thing and not studio specific
[23:39] <mjhouska> from all this
[23:39] <holstein> im about to play the 2nd show today, and im not sure if i'll be back on
[23:39] <holstein> mjhouska: i *always* try the live CD's...
[23:40] <mjhouska> ok
[23:40] <holstein> i never cold install or upgrade and expect things to "just work"
[23:40] <mjhouska> it is studio specific as far as theu pgrade goes  thats what caused the problem
[23:41] <holstein> mjhouska: i dont think so
[23:41] <holstein> the upgrade upgraded the packages.. the driver is probably there.. and you might need to look at the xorg.conf that the ati driver makes
[23:42] <holstein> you might have had a pop-up that said "would you like to keep the current xorg.conf" or whatever
[23:42] <holstein> if not, thats still the first place to check..
[23:42] <mjhouska> nope or i don't remember
[23:42] <holstein> mjhouska: i said "might".. you probaby just got everything upgraded.. even the ati driver i assume you had installed before
[23:42] <mjhouska> ok
[23:43] <holstein> support for your device could have been dropped.. doesnt mean you can support it wiht 12.10.. but, i *always8 try the live CD's.. i would stay with 12.04 for hardware support reasons along
[23:43] <holstein> along*
[23:43] <holstein> alone**
[23:43] <mjhouska> i do get full resolution  just  not sure of 3d support
[23:44] <holstein> mjhouska: you dont need 3d for ubuntustudio
[23:44] <holstein> you can get whatever resolution you specify in the xorg.conf
[23:45] <holstein> anyway, im not kicking you out of here, not am i saying ubuntustudio didnt break your system.. im just offering suggestions that work for me
[23:45] <holstein> we are glad you are here
[23:45] <mjhouska> ok
[23:45] <holstein> and we'll help as much as possible
[23:45] <holstein> gtg.. good luck!
[23:46] <mjhouska> haven't played with xorg conf much
[23:46] <mjhouska> kk
[23:46] <mjhouska> rebooting now