[00:11] like, i want a sit-stand workstations setup [00:11] -s [00:11] but [00:12] i don't care about haveing an entire desk that raises up [00:12] i hardly even need a desk [00:12] i find it silly [00:12] i just need a place for keyboard, mouse, monitors [01:38] derekv: the other thing to think about is the fold up table top [01:38] I almost did that before I bought my geekdesk [01:38] or even something like http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mcpace/the-stand-up-desk-kit [01:39] http://www.ergotron.com/ProductsDetails/tabid/65/PRDID/379/language/en-US/Default.aspx are kind of cool [01:40] http://www.squidoo.com/folding-wall-mounted-desk is kidn of the flip wall mount I mean [01:41] but I will say I consider my geekdesk worth every penny [02:35] rick_h_: Yeah, the release party was tonight [02:35] thought you were busy, so didn't make too many noises about it [02:36] yea didn't get back from baptism party until 7pm [02:36] I just thought the party was tomorrow [02:36] told jcastro I thought it was doh [02:37] jcastro_ and Jill made it out [02:38] jcastro_: Dude, did not realize what happened with Queensryche. Apparently there's now two bands under that moniker? [02:38] ah that's good then. Would have hated to mess it up for them [11:31] The Sunday Morning Linux Review Podcast is Live! http://www.youtube.com/user/tbemus?v=IZKUSyj_wqY [13:58] good morning [17:24] rick_h_droid: so on the desk thing yea I found geekdesk a bit later it is at least priced better relative to another company i was looking at [17:24] derekv yea and if you just get the legs you save a bunch. I just out s solid core door on top [17:25] cuts over 100 off of it [17:25] I have a vision of a system that mounts on a pole, the wall or the ceiling and you can move it around, tilt it etc, with keyboard, mouse trays on independant arms and a decent number of monitors [17:26] there's a company tnat makes a system that is a pole then you buy monitor mounts and keyboard mounts etc for it [17:27] not cheap though ... its not like having a desk surface is a problem, it just seems unneeded [17:28] yea once I got mi [17:29] monitors on arms it's nice to have dual displays and sucj [17:29] just stand up and sit down easy without changing or moving things on the desk [17:29] yea so I thought the easy thing is to get the geekdesk and then some monitor arms for dual monitors [17:30] any monitor past 2 can just sit on its own stand [17:30] the arms could give any extra height and some tilt if I want it [17:31] yea true. just they clear the desk, make room for the dock under them etc [17:35] gah [17:35] gah? [17:35] gah. [17:35] gary bernhardt's tweet that the entire process model, kernel, and language (all of them) is broken for distributed systems [17:35] then he tweets that fist thing is to replace everything with bytcode [17:36] :) [17:36] and i threw up a little [17:36] yea, gary you have to follow with a salt-lick of salt [17:36] <3 usb3 [17:36] backing up the system to prepare for reinstall wheee [17:37] can backup my whole system faster than download that iso [17:38] do you think he's not serious or just into bad ideas? ive never watched his screencasts but i saw him at strangeloop [17:38] he was advocating for disruptive change [17:38] so i was curious what his ideas might be [17:41] i'm finding likely that while perhaps disruptive change is good, he's not the right guy to direct it [17:42] he's just ecentric [17:42] he has good ideas, but is also in an ideal world [17:42] and has lots of time to do this kind of researchy idealogical type stuff [17:45] yea [17:46] lets build the second system, lets make it ... perfect [17:46] man, are there any good movies :/ [17:46] right, and make it my vision of perfect [17:46] I mean the guy's spent time ripping apart the ruby language to fix things that bug him [17:46] it takes a special person to go into that [17:47] smart, crazy, etc [17:48] frankly i'd like to be in that position [17:48] yea, it's cool in some ways [17:48] thats one career outcome i'd call santisfactory [17:48] but I honestly like building things [17:49] you need a mix of both [17:49] so I don't think I could spend that much time in the low levels of that stuff without going a little nuts [17:49] yea .. afk [17:49] but yea, I'd love to have time to really just tinker and see what comes of certain things more than the 'what's required to get x project done' way [18:04] a lot of time gets waisted by people getting overly idealistic or academic [18:04] but it is insignificant compaired to the time waisted by all the times people put up with something thats wrong because fixing it isn't required to get x project done [18:06] i need some chow [18:06] bbl [19:28] caffiene [19:28] i love it [19:29] i'm afriad I'm going to have to give it up at some point, I can tell it effects me differently then it used to [19:35] yea [19:35] I go through waves with it [19:35] and the delivery mechanism [19:37] yea maybe i should just stop mainlining it [19:37] people get the wrong idea when they see all the tracer marks [19:47] I am off it [19:47] Now it makes me sweaty and gives me angina [19:50] http://superuser.com/questions/124336/mac-os-x-keyboard-shortcuts-for-terminal <- derek makes another mark on the "to not buy macbook again" column [19:51] so [19:51] its hypocritcal coming from me because i've never been able to settle with one eviroment long enought to really learn its full potiental , like shortcuts etc [19:51] and customize it [19:52] but with the work , pair programming thing [19:52] makes it impossible [19:53] the obvious solution if it were not for having to deal with work computers would be to customize all my stuff [19:53] so I could mess with terminal on mac, or just not use mac, or install zsh and customize that [19:54] nvm [19:54] i don't know what my point is [19:58] I think it was that I'm frustrated by the three way trade off between working with others, customizing and optimizing your enviroment, and working in different enviroments [19:59] Another aspect is the desire to fix up my home work space [19:59] but I probably won't spend more than 5 or 10 hours a week using it [20:14] meh, script and git repos and customize your crap to be effecient [21:08] If everyone would just use Eclipse this wouldn't be a problem [21:18] Damn Detroit http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/21/michigan-police-investigate-series-shootings-involving-cars-on-busy-roads/?test=latestnews [21:28] rick_h_: It may be my imagination, but the ubuntu-michigan membership I just approved seemed to go much faster than before [22:26] brousch: must be a good day :P [22:26] I haven't done it in months, so I will blame you for the new speed [22:27] brousch: excellent, send a message to my boss please [22:28] he'll wonder how my UI work on private projects effected user approval, but I'll take it [22:35] darn