ubuntu-studiodidnt work x.or crashed i'm on live cd now00:00
ubuntu-studiotried go install ati drivers after upgrading to studio 12.10  and hosed  X.org  qafter trying a suggestion please help00:02
drupinu need to install from live ubuntu-studio00:03
ubuntu-studioyep no desktop at all00:03
drupinto hdd or other medoa00:03
ubuntu-studiook i'll try the upgrade option again00:04
drupinnow you in live00:04
drupinno point upgrade00:04
drupindo you have an empty partition00:05
drupinwhere you can install on hdd00:05
ubuntu-studiomight be able to make uone00:05
drupinthis live is to troubleshoot and to install on other media.. like USB also00:05
drupinwhat other OS you have00:06
ubuntu-studioi use linux only00:06
drupinyou may not want to wipe out the other OS00:07
ubuntu-studioi failed to install prop drivers after upgrading 12.04 to 12.10 fron cd00:07
drupinall is done by default00:08
drupinmanually you dont need much driver install00:08
drupinits very rare00:08
ubuntu-studiooh  shit00:08
drupinplease you proper language ubuntu-studio00:09
ubuntu-studioi thought i had to reinstall ati  for three d00:09
drupinno need i guess00:09
drupinopen chrome will work00:10
ubuntu-studiothere is an option to reinstall 12.10  keeping personal files and such in the installer. i'll go for that.00:12
drupinmake backups ubuntu-studio00:13
drupinof your home folder and and other saves files ubuntu-studio00:13
ubuntu-studiogood idea. fresh install ftw as usual00:14
drupinyes install fresh00:15
ubuntu-studiok goona back up now00:26
drupinhe left i guess01:08
vetchhi all01:35
vetchanyone around that might be able to assist me ?01:35
vetchhaving trouble installing01:35
drupininstallin what vetch01:37
vetchubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso specifically01:38
vetchi burnt 2 cd's, but i cant seem to get them to run01:39
vetchi can get the discs to boot, i choose english and get the menu to 'try' or install01:39
vetchbut no matter what option i choose my computer just reboots after i select an option01:39
drupinrun the live01:43
drupinsecond option01:43
vetchi tried that and that also triggers a reboot01:43
vetchi have had no trouble booting other cd's and installed ubuntu 12.04.101:44
vetchjust the ubuntustudio disc doesnt seem to want to progress past that initial menu01:44
drupinhow u loaded the ISO01:46
drupinfrom torrent or direct install01:46
vetchi downloaded it, i think direct link01:47
vetchand burnt to cd01:47
vetchi just loaded the torrent and it verifies i have 100% and its not corrupt01:49
drupintorrent is good02:06
vetchso my iso is fine, the dvd burnt with no errors and verified02:06
drupinuse USB rather than DVD02:07
vetchthe usb didnt boot02:07
vetchi created it using startup disk creator in ubuntu02:08
drupinwhat was error02:08
vetchbut it didnt seem to boot02:08
vetchno error02:08
drupinu set up boot option02:08
vetchjust seemed like my computer skipped over the usb and continued to boot from hdd02:08
vetchi did02:09
drupinset the boot order02:09
vetch1st boot device was usb02:09
vetch2nd was 1st hdd02:09
vetchbut it didnt boot it02:10
vetchthats why i resorted to using dvd02:10
vetchmy computer had no trouble installing ubuntu from dvd02:10
vetchjust having problems with ubuntustudio02:10
drupinkeep booting 2 3 times02:10
vetchi tried a few times before i came here02:12
vetchi can try again but i think its going to do the same02:23
haitekhello world?06:08
hatgorI an a new ubuntu studio user12:32
hatgorCan anyone answer some questions about this system?12:32
hatgorOh. No one hears me?12:39
gaetanohi! anyone is there!!!???14:23
gaetanoi need some help with 3d drivers..they are not working: i cant open 3d blender!14:25
ailogaetano: What graphic card do you have?14:26
gaetanoailo: NVIDIA GEFORCE GT14:28
gaetano630 m 2GB14:28
ailogaetano: Use the terminal, and do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current14:28
ailoOr, if you want updates, nvidia-current-updates14:29
ailogaetano: Which version of Ubuntu Studio? 12.04? 12.10?14:29
gaetanoailo: well my brother installed it to me 1 week ago, and i dont know wich one...is there any way to me to know wich one im using??14:30
ailogaetano: In a terminal, do: cat /etc/issue14:32
gaetanoailo: ok first i type sudo ect...one sec!14:34
ailogaetano: You will need to reboot before drivers take effect. Why I'm asking which version of Ubuntu you have is because there is a way to install drivers without the terminal, but it's different on the two releases14:35
gaetanoailo: ok, im gonna cal my bro and ask him wich one he installed to me14:36
ailogaetano: Well, if you go in the menu to: Settings -> Software Sources and you see a tab called "Additional Drivers", you are using 12.1014:38
ailoOtherwise, 12.0414:39
ailo12.10 was released less than one week ago14:39
gaetanoailo:ok im gonna chek it out14:39
ailogaetano: If you just want to install drivers right away, you can just use the terminal. It's the same on all releases14:40
ailosudo apt-get install nvidia-current14:40
gaetanoailo: ok i see additional drivers, so im using 12.10 isn it??14:42
ailogaetano: Yes. Use either the one that ends with "nvidia-current" or "nvidia-updates". You need to click "Apply" to install14:43
ailogaetano: Is one of them already chosen, or are you using the one that is called Noveau?14:44
gaetanoailo: i clicked on additional drivers but it showed me NVIDIA _experimental_31014:47
gaetanoailo: am i gotta activate it!?14:48
gaetanoailo: 3D accelerated proprietary graphics for NVIDIA card. this is the driver that appeared clicking additional drivers..i have to install it!?!?14:52
gaetanoailo: i dont know about this noveau...14:53
ailogaetano: No the experimental. Either "nvidia-current", or "nvidia-current-updates". Read carefully14:54
gaetanoailo: nvidia current-updates doesnt appear..am i gonna typed in the terminal like u said before??14:56
gaetanoailo: am i gonna type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current " like u said before?14:57
ailogaetano: Yes, I recommend you do that14:58
gaetanoailo: ok imgonna do it! :) dont go away! :)14:59
gaetanoit says NVIDIA-current is already the newest version...15:01
ailogaetano: Right now, I'm not sure if you already installed it using the Software Sources applications. Open (in the menu): System -> NVIDIA X Server Settings15:03
gaetanoailo: ok, it has appeared "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."15:05
gaetanoailo: what am i gonna do!?15:10
gaetanoailo: u still there??15:15
ailogaetano: You need to reboot. Then it should be fine15:22
ailogaetano: No need to do nvidia-xconfig. That stuff happens automatically'15:22
ailogaetano: After rebooting, try the Nvidia control application again. If it again says "you do not appear to be using..", then you have a problem15:24
gaetanoailo: ok ailo, but how do i reboot??15:25
ailogaetano: You restart your computer. boot means when the Operative System starts15:25
gaetanoailo ok after i restart, what i gotta do!? to run 3d programs like blender? because till now it dont work15:27
ailogaetano: Just reboot. Start the Nvidia X Server Settings application again, and tell me if it says the same thing15:28
gaetanoailo: ok brb15:30
ailogaetano: Yes15:39
gaetanoailo i restarted and i went to NVIDIA x server but it says "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.15:41
ailogaetano: Is there a file called: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?15:43
gaetanoailo : i type it in the terminal?15:43
ailogaetano: It's the file path15:43
ailoYou can either use a file manager to go there and find the file, or if you use the terminal, you can do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:44
ailogaetano: Graphic drivers are installed the same way on all Ubuntu based distros, so this is not a Ubuntu Studio problem15:44
ailogaetano: I would use google to find out if there are any issues with your graphic card version and Ubuntu 12.10.15:45
ailoAlso, you could head to ubuntuforums.org, or #ubuntu15:45
ailogaetano: If there is a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, delete it, and then reboot. If not, then you have a problem with your graphic card and the nvidia drivers15:46
ailogaetano: That is as much as I can help you, sorry15:46
gaetanoailo: i typed /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it showed "permission denied"15:48
gaetanoailo: dont worry u have been very kind! and helpful! i thank u a lot!15:49
ailogaetano: The command is "ls". So: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:51
ailoThe file can only be removed as root15:51
ailoYou could just do: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:51
ailoIf it's there, it will be removed, if not, you didn't do anything bad15:51
gaetanoailo: ok i typed "ls" and appeared "documenti immagini modelli musica pubblici scrivania video"15:54
gaetanoailo: so now i gotta reboot to delete it?15:55
ailogaetano: No, you didn't read what I wrote very carefully15:55
ailogaetano: To see the file you do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:56
ailoI mean, to see if it is there15:56
ailoTo remove it: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:56
ailoThese are commands: ls, sudo, rm. This is a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.15:57
ailo"ls" lists files. "sudo" gives you admin rights. "rm" removes files15:57
gaetanoailo: ok it shows only my name and the name of my pal top15:57
gaetanolap top15:58
gaetanono no sorry..lol it showed /etc/X11/xorg.conf..i delet it!?15:59
ailogaetano: Yes. Delete it15:59
ailoAnd then reboot15:59
gaetanosays rm: missing aperand, what is means?16:00
ailogaetano: It means you did not write the command I showed you16:01
ailosudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:01
gaetanoailo: ok thank u very much! i will let u know if it has worked! i gotta go! thank u again! see u here!!!16:04
rickbolubuntu update-manager update my kernel to 3.2.0-32.51-generic-pae. When might a lowlatency kernel update be available?16:18
ailorickbol: If you don't want the generic kernel, you could just uninstall it.16:20
ailoThere hasn't been any updates for -lowlatency on precise for a while16:21
ailo12.10 has regular updates, at same pace with -generic16:21
rickbolis it recommended that ubuntustudio releases do a dist-upgrade to 12.10?16:28
ailorickbol: No. We recommend a fresh install16:28
rickbolWell I thought the 12.04 LTS would be a long lasting "base install", but no?16:29
ailoThe -lowlatency may be updated later. I'm trying to make that happen16:30
ailo12.04 will be supported the longest, but as for quality for multimedia applications, it doesn't stand out16:30
ailoI don't know how different XFCE is between releases, but I would guess also that does not follow LTS in the sense that LTS is the most polished16:31
ailoAnything Ubuntu specific might be more polished on the LTS16:32
ailoI'm hearing ATI drivers don't install on 12.1016:32
hatgorailo, who tells you that? It's too bad...16:32
ailoI was unable to install them myself, a week ago. I don't have ATI at home, so I don't really know much about it16:33
ailoThere was someone here who had the same problem16:33
rickbolMy motivating problem is that I can't get stable wifi working on this Dell 630. Iv'e tried the default bcm4311 and now an intel 4965agn. Both crap out.16:34
rickbolthe bcm4311 work fine under AVLinux5.x. The intel 4965 has problems.16:34
ailorickbol: Which kernel version on AVLinux?16:35
rickbolhmm, it's older. Maybe a 2.6.xx, or early 3.0.x16:35
ailorickbol: I can't say for sure, but it does sound like a kernel version issue. If you'd like to try an older kernel version, I made a guide for compiling one here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildOldLowlatency16:37
rickbolactually, 3.0.30-avl-8-pae16:38
ailoI'd google about the device first though, to see when and why the problem happens16:38
ailoA blind test with 12.10 I guess would just be booting the live image and see how that works out16:38
rickbolthere are some bugs (regressions?) on both wifi devices, but they're 1yr+ old. I'm blown away that these releases would continue with these bugs.16:40
rickbolI'm really just trying to identify a card that'll work well in this Dell 63016:40
ailorickbol: Not Ubuntu's fault. I don't know who makes those drivers. Could be they are not free? And in that case, not anyone can edit the code16:40
ailoAlso, sometimes it happens they remove stuff, because of legal issues16:41
ailoYou could try some kernel forum, or mail list about this16:41
rickbolwell the drivers used to work fine. And these are very common wifi cards. Broadcom and Intel sometimes help, sometimes hinder. But what card has opensource drivers that work?16:42
ailoI have no idea. If they are open source, then there will be some place for the code, and some sort of mail list16:43
rickbolI'll boot 12.10 and see what happens. Thx.16:43
rickbolhow do I know if I'm running 64 or 32-bit kernel?16:52
ailorickbol: PAE is 32 bit16:58
ailorickbol: You can do: uname -a16:58
ailoWill let you know if it's 32 bit or 64 bit system16:58
ailoThis being 64bit x86_6416:59
Zardozohi folks!17:05
Zardozogo a problen after a fresh install of studio12.1017:06
Zardozojack wont start17:06
ailoZardozo: What kind of problem?17:06
ailoZardozo: Are you very familiar with jack?17:07
ailoMake sure no audio applications are running. Including web browsers with audio content17:07
ailoKill jackdbus and pulseaudio: killall -9 jackdbus && killall pulseaudio17:07
ailoMake sure to choose the right device, before starting jack17:08
ailoZardozo: Unfortunately qjackctl has problems shutting down jackdbus17:08
Zardozohey that worked17:09
Zardozonow jack has started17:09
ailoZardozo: When you stop jack, and it doesn't stop, jackdbus will be left running in the background. You could make a little script for killing it17:09
ailoIf you don't need dbus support (ladish, and some other things), just disable dbus support in qjackctl settings17:10
ailoThis will have qjackctl start jackd instead of jackdbus, and you should have no more problems of that kinds17:10
ailoOh, that will also disable pulseaudio autocreating sink and source to jack17:11
Zardozoyeah i don't need sytem sounds anyway when doing my audio work17:15
Zardozowhat does this mean?17:16
Zardozoqjackctl.real:7772): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed17:16
Zardozo(qjackctl.real:7772): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed17:16
ailoDon't know. It's something new to me.17:16
ailoSounds like something to do with GTK17:17
Zardozomy server prefix is set to jackd17:17
Zardozonot jackdbus17:17
Zardozoi topped qjack  and restarted and got this. it still works17:19
Zardozo12:18:32.146 Patchbay deactivated.17:19
Zardozo12:18:32.159 Statistics reset.17:19
Zardozo12:18:32.169 ALSA connection change.17:19
Zardozo12:18:32.209 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).17:19
ZardozoCannot connect to server socket err = Connection refused17:19
ZardozoCannot connect to server request channel17:19
Zardozojack server is not running or cannot be started17:19
Zardozo12:18:32.217 ALSA connection graph change.17:19
Zardozo(qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed17:19
Zardozo(qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed17:20
Zardozo12:18:41.671 D-BUS: JACK server is starting...17:20
ZardozoCannot connect to server socket err = Connection refused17:20
ZardozoCannot connect to server request channel17:20
Zardozojack server is not running or cannot be started17:20
Zardozo(qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed17:20
Zardozo(qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed17:20
Zardozo12:18:41.704 D-BUS: JACK server was started (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: Starting jack server...17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 1017:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:017:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:017:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: Acquired audio card Audio017:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:017:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: use 2 periods for playback17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: graph reorder: new port 'system:capture_1'17:20
ZardozoSun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: New client 'syste17:20
ailoZardozo: You could use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for this sort of thing17:21
ailoIf jack starts, then there's no error17:21
Zardozoli this right http://paste.ubuntu.com/1295524/17:23
Zardozocool idea17:23
Zardozothaks a bunch17:24
Zardozopulse sink and sourse are autoconnected too17:26
Zardozowell good at least i know what to do if it hapens again17:33
Zardozowell i rebooted and jack still works. i guess they should add that line to the ubuntu studio installation17:38
Zardozoagain thanks for the help ailo17:39
rickbolshould usbsticks be automounted on 12.04?17:55
ailorickbol: nope18:00
ailoI think it was changed for 12.1018:00
ailoZardozo: Are you the one who posted on ubuntustudio-testing?18:14
ailoZardozo: Not many subscribing to that mail list. Intended for posting testing results, when testing development versions of Ubuntu Studio. Not active yet18:15
Zardozooh ok18:15
ailoAny problems you have, you are free to post on ubuntu-studio-user18:16
Zardozothat a frenode channel18:16
Zardozothis? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-users18:19
Zardozocool i'm subscribed18:22
ailoZardozo: Yea, that's the one18:26
ailoZardozo: Let me also point you to #opensourcemusicians. A good channel for various audio related topics18:27
ailoAnd another mail list, which is very useful is linux-audio-user18:27
rickbolwhat is the syntax to mount a usb drive read\write at the command line? (I've read a dozen googled articles already, & the man page)18:27
ailorickbol: I usually just do: sudo mount /dev/sd** /media/somefolder18:28
ailoFirst: sudo mkdir /media/somefolder18:28
ailoreplace ** with your device18:28
ailoIn my case it could be sdb118:29
ailoYou can use the disk utility tool to see which it is18:29
rickbol"sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive1" returns "mount: warning: /media/usbdrive1 seems to be mounted read-only."18:29
ailohmm, let me check. I don't do this often.. (umask)18:30
ailorickbol: Try: sudo mount umask=0022 /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive118:34
ailorickbol: I don't have these kind of problems myself. Were you the one with the curious laptop and no usb mounting?18:35
ailorickbol: I mean, the usb should appear in the file manager, but not be mounted18:35
ailoBy clicking on it, it should be mounted18:35
rickbolwould that be "... -o umask=0022..."18:36
rickbolthe drive doesn't show up in the file amanger18:38
ailorickbol: Ah, yeah. -o umask=002218:39
ailorickbol: Seems like some kind of a pattern now. Two people who can't get their usb devices to mount properly18:40
ailoOnly 12.10?18:40
rickbolI'm trying to put 12.10 on a usb drive with unetbootin to see if my wifi card works under 12.10. I'm on 12.0418:41
ailorickbol: It seems like some HW don't play well regarding usb mounting18:42
ailoTry another computer, if you have one18:42
rickbolI put 12.04 on a usb drive using this computer, running AVLinux 5.x.18:43
ailorickbol: Apparently, there are other problems with later kernel versions (if that is the cause)18:44
rickbolok. booting to AVLinux 5.0 to put 12.10 on a usb drive. thx.18:45
Zardozoi  have a biostar A780L3G mobo with an ati 3000hd chipset. how do i snstal flgrx drivers forit?19:24
Zardozoubuntustudio 12.1019:25
Zardozolshw outut  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1295848/19:30
Zardozonevermind card not supported orphaned again19:59
Zardozoreverting back to 12.04. cheaper than buying a new card19:59
Zardozothankfull i've backed up my files20:00
acmeinchave there been any reports from fmit (tuner) crashing during gladish Studio load?20:23
ZardozoInstalling 12.04 while i save for a new videocard or wait for ATI tomake a driver  compatable with the new xorg.  shoudn't that be the other way around?20:28
Zardozomy mobo isn't that old.20:30
Zardozoyeah 12.04 is good enough20:32
MaynardWatersso i start up qjackctl21:15
MaynardWatersthen i open mixxx or hydrogen21:15
MaynardWatersi start playing21:15
MaynardWatersits coming out of my speakers great21:15
MaynardWatersnow i want to plug in my head phones21:16
MaynardWatersso  i do and expect it to continue to play in the ear buds,21:16
MaynardWatersbut nothing comes out of the ear buds, but the speakers stop producing sound21:16
MaynardWatersi unplug, and the speakers are playing21:16
MaynardWatersany advice?21:16
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acmeincanyone have experience with gladish?23:14

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