[00:00] didnt work x.or crashed i'm on live cd now [00:02] x? [00:02] tried go install ati drivers after upgrading to studio 12.10 and hosed X.org qafter trying a suggestion please help [00:03] u need to install from live ubuntu-studio [00:03] yep no desktop at all [00:03] ok [00:03] to hdd or other medoa [00:04] media* [00:04] ok i'll try the upgrade option again [00:04] now you in live [00:04] yep [00:04] no point upgrade [00:05] do you have an empty partition [00:05] where you can install on hdd [00:05] nope [00:05] might be able to make uone [00:05] this live is to troubleshoot and to install on other media.. like USB also [00:06] what other OS you have [00:06] i use linux only [00:07] ok [00:07] you may not want to wipe out the other OS [00:07] i failed to install prop drivers after upgrading 12.04 to 12.10 fron cd [00:08] all is done by default [00:08] manually you dont need much driver install [00:08] its very rare [00:08] oh shit [00:09] please you proper language ubuntu-studio [00:09] i thought i had to reinstall ati for three d [00:09] kk [00:09] no need i guess [00:10] open chrome will work [00:12] there is an option to reinstall 12.10 keeping personal files and such in the installer. i'll go for that. [00:13] make backups ubuntu-studio [00:13] of your home folder and and other saves files ubuntu-studio [00:14] saved* [00:14] good idea. fresh install ftw as usual [00:15] yes install fresh [00:26] k goona back up now [00:34] Holaa [01:08] ubuntu-studio? [01:08] he left i guess [01:35] hi all [01:35] anyone around that might be able to assist me ? [01:35] having trouble installing [01:37] installin what vetch [01:38] ubuntustudio [01:38] ubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso specifically [01:39] i burnt 2 cd's, but i cant seem to get them to run [01:39] i can get the discs to boot, i choose english and get the menu to 'try' or install [01:39] but no matter what option i choose my computer just reboots after i select an option [01:43] run the live [01:43] OS [01:43] second option [01:43] i tried that and that also triggers a reboot [01:44] i have had no trouble booting other cd's and installed ubuntu 12.04.1 [01:44] just the ubuntustudio disc doesnt seem to want to progress past that initial menu [01:46] how u loaded the ISO [01:46] from torrent or direct install [01:47] i downloaded it, i think direct link [01:47] and burnt to cd [01:49] i just loaded the torrent and it verifies i have 100% and its not corrupt [02:06] yes [02:06] torrent is good [02:06] so my iso is fine, the dvd burnt with no errors and verified [02:07] use USB rather than DVD [02:07] the usb didnt boot [02:08] i created it using startup disk creator in ubuntu [02:08] what was error [02:08] but it didnt seem to boot [02:08] no error [02:08] u set up boot option [02:08] just seemed like my computer skipped over the usb and continued to boot from hdd [02:08] yea [02:09] bios [02:09] i did [02:09] set the boot order [02:09] 1st boot device was usb [02:09] ok [02:09] 2nd was 1st hdd [02:10] but it didnt boot it [02:10] thats why i resorted to using dvd [02:10] my computer had no trouble installing ubuntu from dvd [02:10] just having problems with ubuntustudio [02:10] keep booting 2 3 times [02:12] i tried a few times before i came here [02:20] ok [02:20] now [02:23] i can try again but i think its going to do the same [02:23] brb [06:08] hello world? [12:32] Hello! [12:32] I an a new ubuntu studio user [12:32] Can anyone answer some questions about this system? [12:39] Oh. No one hears me? [14:23] hi! anyone is there!!!??? [14:25] i need some help with 3d drivers..they are not working: i cant open 3d blender! [14:26] gaetano: What graphic card do you have? [14:28] ailo: NVIDIA GEFORCE GT [14:28] 630 m 2GB [14:28] gaetano: Use the terminal, and do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current [14:29] Or, if you want updates, nvidia-current-updates [14:29] gaetano: Which version of Ubuntu Studio? 12.04? 12.10? [14:30] ailo: well my brother installed it to me 1 week ago, and i dont know wich one...is there any way to me to know wich one im using?? [14:32] gaetano: In a terminal, do: cat /etc/issue [14:34] ailo: ok first i type sudo ect...one sec! [14:35] gaetano: You will need to reboot before drivers take effect. Why I'm asking which version of Ubuntu you have is because there is a way to install drivers without the terminal, but it's different on the two releases [14:36] ailo: ok, im gonna cal my bro and ask him wich one he installed to me [14:38] gaetano: Well, if you go in the menu to: Settings -> Software Sources and you see a tab called "Additional Drivers", you are using 12.10 [14:39] Otherwise, 12.04 [14:39] 12.10 was released less than one week ago [14:39] ailo: [14:39] ailo:ok im gonna chek it out [14:40] gaetano: If you just want to install drivers right away, you can just use the terminal. It's the same on all releases [14:40] sudo apt-get install nvidia-current [14:42] ailo: ok i see additional drivers, so im using 12.10 isn it?? [14:43] gaetano: Yes. Use either the one that ends with "nvidia-current" or "nvidia-updates". You need to click "Apply" to install [14:44] gaetano: Is one of them already chosen, or are you using the one that is called Noveau? [14:47] ailo: i clicked on additional drivers but it showed me NVIDIA _experimental_310 [14:48] ailo: am i gotta activate it!? [14:52] ailo: 3D accelerated proprietary graphics for NVIDIA card. this is the driver that appeared clicking additional drivers..i have to install it!?!? [14:53] ailo: i dont know about this noveau... [14:54] gaetano: No the experimental. Either "nvidia-current", or "nvidia-current-updates". Read carefully [14:56] ailo: nvidia current-updates doesnt appear..am i gonna typed in the terminal like u said before?? [14:57] ailo: am i gonna type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current " like u said before? [14:58] gaetano: Yes, I recommend you do that [14:59] ailo: ok imgonna do it! :) dont go away! :) [15:01] it says NVIDIA-current is already the newest version... [15:03] gaetano: Right now, I'm not sure if you already installed it using the Software Sources applications. Open (in the menu): System -> NVIDIA X Server Settings [15:05] ailo: ok, it has appeared "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server." [15:10] ailo: what am i gonna do!? [15:15] ailo: u still there?? [15:22] gaetano: You need to reboot. Then it should be fine [15:22] gaetano: No need to do nvidia-xconfig. That stuff happens automatically' [15:24] gaetano: After rebooting, try the Nvidia control application again. If it again says "you do not appear to be using..", then you have a problem [15:25] ailo: ok ailo, but how do i reboot?? [15:25] gaetano: You restart your computer. boot means when the Operative System starts [15:27] ailo ok after i restart, what i gotta do!? to run 3d programs like blender? because till now it dont work [15:28] gaetano: Just reboot. Start the Nvidia X Server Settings application again, and tell me if it says the same thing [15:30] ailo: ok brb [15:38] ailo: [15:39] gaetano: Yes [15:41] ailo i restarted and i went to NVIDIA x server but it says "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. [15:43] gaetano: Is there a file called: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [15:43] ailo : i type it in the terminal? [15:43] gaetano: It's the file path [15:44] You can either use a file manager to go there and find the file, or if you use the terminal, you can do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:44] gaetano: Graphic drivers are installed the same way on all Ubuntu based distros, so this is not a Ubuntu Studio problem [15:45] gaetano: I would use google to find out if there are any issues with your graphic card version and Ubuntu 12.10. [15:45] Also, you could head to ubuntuforums.org, or #ubuntu [15:46] gaetano: If there is a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, delete it, and then reboot. If not, then you have a problem with your graphic card and the nvidia drivers [15:46] gaetano: That is as much as I can help you, sorry [15:48] ailo: i typed /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it showed "permission denied" [15:49] ailo: dont worry u have been very kind! and helpful! i thank u a lot! [15:51] gaetano: The command is "ls". So: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:51] The file can only be removed as root [15:51] You could just do: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:51] If it's there, it will be removed, if not, you didn't do anything bad [15:54] ailo: ok i typed "ls" and appeared "documenti immagini modelli musica pubblici scrivania video" [15:55] ailo: so now i gotta reboot to delete it? [15:55] gaetano: No, you didn't read what I wrote very carefully [15:56] gaetano: To see the file you do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:56] I mean, to see if it is there [15:56] To remove it: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:57] These are commands: ls, sudo, rm. This is a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. [15:57] "ls" lists files. "sudo" gives you admin rights. "rm" removes files [15:57] ailo: ok it shows only my name and the name of my pal top [15:58] lap top [15:59] no no sorry..lol it showed /etc/X11/xorg.conf..i delet it!? [15:59] gaetano: Yes. Delete it [15:59] And then reboot [16:00] says rm: missing aperand, what is means? [16:01] gaetano: It means you did not write the command I showed you [16:01] sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf [16:04] ailo: ok thank u very much! i will let u know if it has worked! i gotta go! thank u again! see u here!!! [16:04] bye [16:18] ubuntu update-manager update my kernel to 3.2.0-32.51-generic-pae. When might a lowlatency kernel update be available? [16:20] rickbol: If you don't want the generic kernel, you could just uninstall it. [16:21] There hasn't been any updates for -lowlatency on precise for a while [16:21] 12.10 has regular updates, at same pace with -generic [16:28] is it recommended that ubuntustudio releases do a dist-upgrade to 12.10? [16:28] rickbol: No. We recommend a fresh install [16:29] Well I thought the 12.04 LTS would be a long lasting "base install", but no? [16:30] The -lowlatency may be updated later. I'm trying to make that happen [16:30] 12.04 will be supported the longest, but as for quality for multimedia applications, it doesn't stand out [16:31] I don't know how different XFCE is between releases, but I would guess also that does not follow LTS in the sense that LTS is the most polished [16:32] Anything Ubuntu specific might be more polished on the LTS [16:32] I'm hearing ATI drivers don't install on 12.10 [16:32] ailo, who tells you that? It's too bad... [16:33] I was unable to install them myself, a week ago. I don't have ATI at home, so I don't really know much about it [16:33] There was someone here who had the same problem [16:34] My motivating problem is that I can't get stable wifi working on this Dell 630. Iv'e tried the default bcm4311 and now an intel 4965agn. Both crap out. [16:34] the bcm4311 work fine under AVLinux5.x. The intel 4965 has problems. [16:35] rickbol: Which kernel version on AVLinux? [16:35] hmm, it's older. Maybe a 2.6.xx, or early 3.0.x [16:37] rickbol: I can't say for sure, but it does sound like a kernel version issue. If you'd like to try an older kernel version, I made a guide for compiling one here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildOldLowlatency [16:38] actually, 3.0.30-avl-8-pae [16:38] I'd google about the device first though, to see when and why the problem happens [16:38] A blind test with 12.10 I guess would just be booting the live image and see how that works out [16:40] there are some bugs (regressions?) on both wifi devices, but they're 1yr+ old. I'm blown away that these releases would continue with these bugs. [16:40] I'm really just trying to identify a card that'll work well in this Dell 630 [16:40] rickbol: Not Ubuntu's fault. I don't know who makes those drivers. Could be they are not free? And in that case, not anyone can edit the code [16:41] Also, sometimes it happens they remove stuff, because of legal issues [16:41] You could try some kernel forum, or mail list about this [16:42] well the drivers used to work fine. And these are very common wifi cards. Broadcom and Intel sometimes help, sometimes hinder. But what card has opensource drivers that work? [16:43] I have no idea. If they are open source, then there will be some place for the code, and some sort of mail list [16:43] I'll boot 12.10 and see what happens. Thx. [16:52] how do I know if I'm running 64 or 32-bit kernel? [16:58] rickbol: PAE is 32 bit [16:58] rickbol: You can do: uname -a [16:58] Will let you know if it's 32 bit or 64 bit system [16:59] This being 64bit x86_64 [17:05] hi folks! [17:06] go a problen after a fresh install of studio12.10 [17:06] jack wont start [17:06] Zardozo: What kind of problem? [17:07] Zardozo: Are you very familiar with jack? [17:07] nope [17:07] Make sure no audio applications are running. Including web browsers with audio content [17:07] Kill jackdbus and pulseaudio: killall -9 jackdbus && killall pulseaudio [17:08] Make sure to choose the right device, before starting jack [17:08] Zardozo: Unfortunately qjackctl has problems shutting down jackdbus [17:09] hey that worked [17:09] now jack has started [17:09] Zardozo: When you stop jack, and it doesn't stop, jackdbus will be left running in the background. You could make a little script for killing it [17:10] If you don't need dbus support (ladish, and some other things), just disable dbus support in qjackctl settings [17:10] This will have qjackctl start jackd instead of jackdbus, and you should have no more problems of that kinds [17:10] cool [17:11] Oh, that will also disable pulseaudio autocreating sink and source to jack [17:12] ok [17:15] yeah i don't need sytem sounds anyway when doing my audio work [17:16] what does this mean? [17:16] qjackctl.real:7772): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [17:16] (qjackctl.real:7772): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [17:16] Don't know. It's something new to me. [17:17] Sounds like something to do with GTK [17:17] my server prefix is set to jackd [17:17] not jackdbus [17:19] i topped qjack and restarted and got this. it still works [17:19] 12:18:32.146 Patchbay deactivated. [17:19] 12:18:32.159 Statistics reset. [17:19] 12:18:32.169 ALSA connection change. [17:19] 12:18:32.209 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus). [17:19] Cannot connect to server socket err = Connection refused [17:19] Cannot connect to server request channel [17:19] jack server is not running or cannot be started [17:19] 12:18:32.217 ALSA connection graph change. [17:19] (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [17:20] (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [17:20] 12:18:41.671 D-BUS: JACK server is starting... [17:20] Cannot connect to server socket err = Connection refused [17:20] Cannot connect to server request channel [17:20] jack server is not running or cannot be started [17:20] (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [17:20] (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [17:20] 12:18:41.704 D-BUS: JACK server was started (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus). [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: Starting jack server... [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10 [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:0 [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:0 [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: Acquired audio card Audio0 [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:0 [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: use 2 periods for playback [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: graph reorder: new port 'system:capture_1' [17:20] Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: New client 'syste [17:21] Zardozo: You could use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for this sort of thing [17:21] If jack starts, then there's no error [17:23] li this right http://paste.ubuntu.com/1295524/ [17:23] cool idea [17:24] thaks a bunch [17:24] thanks [17:26] pulse sink and sourse are autoconnected too [17:33] well good at least i know what to do if it hapens again [17:38] well i rebooted and jack still works. i guess they should add that line to the ubuntu studio installation [17:39] again thanks for the help ailo [17:55] should usbsticks be automounted on 12.04? [18:00] rickbol: nope [18:00] I think it was changed for 12.10 [18:14] Zardozo: Are you the one who posted on ubuntustudio-testing? [18:14] yep [18:14] Ok [18:15] Zardozo: Not many subscribing to that mail list. Intended for posting testing results, when testing development versions of Ubuntu Studio. Not active yet [18:15] oh ok [18:16] Any problems you have, you are free to post on ubuntu-studio-user [18:16] ok [18:16] that a frenode channel [18:17] nope [18:19] this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-users [18:22] cool i'm subscribed [18:26] Zardozo: Yea, that's the one [18:27] Zardozo: Let me also point you to #opensourcemusicians. A good channel for various audio related topics [18:27] And another mail list, which is very useful is linux-audio-user [18:27] what is the syntax to mount a usb drive read\write at the command line? (I've read a dozen googled articles already, & the man page) [18:28] rickbol: I usually just do: sudo mount /dev/sd** /media/somefolder [18:28] First: sudo mkdir /media/somefolder [18:28] replace ** with your device [18:29] In my case it could be sdb1 [18:29] You can use the disk utility tool to see which it is [18:29] "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive1" returns "mount: warning: /media/usbdrive1 seems to be mounted read-only." [18:30] hmm, let me check. I don't do this often.. (umask) [18:34] rickbol: Try: sudo mount umask=0022 /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive1 [18:35] rickbol: I don't have these kind of problems myself. Were you the one with the curious laptop and no usb mounting? [18:35] rickbol: I mean, the usb should appear in the file manager, but not be mounted [18:35] By clicking on it, it should be mounted [18:36] would that be "... -o umask=0022..." [18:38] the drive doesn't show up in the file amanger [18:39] rickbol: Ah, yeah. -o umask=0022 [18:40] rickbol: Seems like some kind of a pattern now. Two people who can't get their usb devices to mount properly [18:40] Only 12.10? [18:41] I'm trying to put 12.10 on a usb drive with unetbootin to see if my wifi card works under 12.10. I'm on 12.04 [18:42] rickbol: It seems like some HW don't play well regarding usb mounting [18:42] Try another computer, if you have one [18:43] I put 12.04 on a usb drive using this computer, running AVLinux 5.x. [18:44] rickbol: Apparently, there are other problems with later kernel versions (if that is the cause) [18:45] ok. booting to AVLinux 5.0 to put 12.10 on a usb drive. thx. [19:24] i have a biostar A780L3G mobo with an ati 3000hd chipset. how do i snstal flgrx drivers forit? [19:25] ubuntustudio 12.10 [19:30] lshw outut http://paste.ubuntu.com/1295848/ [19:59] nevermind card not supported orphaned again [19:59] reverting back to 12.04. cheaper than buying a new card [20:00] thankfull i've backed up my files [20:23] have there been any reports from fmit (tuner) crashing during gladish Studio load? [20:28] Installing 12.04 while i save for a new videocard or wait for ATI tomake a driver compatable with the new xorg. shoudn't that be the other way around? [20:30] my mobo isn't that old. [20:32] yeah 12.04 is good enough [21:15] so i start up qjackctl [21:15] then i open mixxx or hydrogen [21:15] i start playing [21:15] its coming out of my speakers great [21:16] now i want to plug in my head phones [21:16] so i do and expect it to continue to play in the ear buds, [21:16] but nothing comes out of the ear buds, but the speakers stop producing sound [21:16] i unplug, and the speakers are playing [21:16] any advice? [21:50] rosegarden..... === gartral|Away is now known as gartral [23:14] anyone have experience with gladish?