[00:00] <ubuntu-studio> didnt work x.or crashed i'm on live cd now
[00:02] <drupin> x?
[00:02] <ubuntu-studio> tried go install ati drivers after upgrading to studio 12.10  and hosed  X.org  qafter trying a suggestion please help
[00:03] <drupin> u need to install from live ubuntu-studio
[00:03] <ubuntu-studio> yep no desktop at all
[00:03] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[00:03] <drupin> to hdd or other medoa
[00:04] <drupin> media*
[00:04] <ubuntu-studio> ok i'll try the upgrade option again
[00:04] <drupin> now you in live
[00:04] <ubuntu-studio> yep
[00:04] <drupin> no point upgrade
[00:05] <drupin> do you have an empty partition
[00:05] <drupin> where you can install on hdd
[00:05] <ubuntu-studio> nope
[00:05] <ubuntu-studio> might be able to make uone
[00:05] <drupin> this live is to troubleshoot and to install on other media.. like USB also
[00:06] <drupin> what other OS you have
[00:06] <ubuntu-studio> i use linux only
[00:07] <drupin> ok
[00:07] <drupin> you may not want to wipe out the other OS
[00:07] <ubuntu-studio> i failed to install prop drivers after upgrading 12.04 to 12.10 fron cd
[00:08] <drupin> all is done by default
[00:08] <drupin> manually you dont need much driver install
[00:08] <drupin> its very rare
[00:08] <ubuntu-studio> oh  shit
[00:09] <drupin> please you proper language ubuntu-studio
[00:09] <ubuntu-studio> i thought i had to reinstall ati  for three d
[00:09] <ubuntu-studio> kk
[00:09] <drupin> no need i guess
[00:10] <drupin> open chrome will work
[00:12] <ubuntu-studio> there is an option to reinstall 12.10  keeping personal files and such in the installer. i'll go for that.
[00:13] <drupin> make backups ubuntu-studio
[00:13] <drupin> of your home folder and and other saves files ubuntu-studio
[00:14] <drupin> saved*
[00:14] <ubuntu-studio> good idea. fresh install ftw as usual
[00:15] <drupin> yes install fresh
[00:26] <ubuntu-studio> k goona back up now
[00:34] <ubuntu-studio> Holaa
[01:08] <drupin> ubuntu-studio?
[01:08] <drupin> he left i guess
[01:35] <vetch> hi all
[01:35] <vetch> anyone around that might be able to assist me ?
[01:35] <vetch> having trouble installing
[01:37] <drupin> installin what vetch
[01:38] <vetch> ubuntustudio
[01:38] <vetch> ubuntustudio-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso specifically
[01:39] <vetch> i burnt 2 cd's, but i cant seem to get them to run
[01:39] <vetch> i can get the discs to boot, i choose english and get the menu to 'try' or install
[01:39] <vetch> but no matter what option i choose my computer just reboots after i select an option
[01:43] <drupin> run the live
[01:43] <drupin> OS
[01:43] <drupin> second option
[01:43] <vetch> i tried that and that also triggers a reboot
[01:44] <vetch> i have had no trouble booting other cd's and installed ubuntu 12.04.1
[01:44] <vetch> just the ubuntustudio disc doesnt seem to want to progress past that initial menu
[01:46] <drupin> how u loaded the ISO
[01:46] <drupin> from torrent or direct install
[01:47] <vetch> i downloaded it, i think direct link
[01:47] <vetch> and burnt to cd
[01:49] <vetch> i just loaded the torrent and it verifies i have 100% and its not corrupt
[02:06] <drupin> yes
[02:06] <drupin> torrent is good
[02:06] <vetch> so my iso is fine, the dvd burnt with no errors and verified
[02:07] <drupin> use USB rather than DVD
[02:07] <vetch> the usb didnt boot
[02:08] <vetch> i created it using startup disk creator in ubuntu
[02:08] <drupin> what was error
[02:08] <vetch> but it didnt seem to boot
[02:08] <vetch> no error
[02:08] <drupin> u set up boot option
[02:08] <vetch> just seemed like my computer skipped over the usb and continued to boot from hdd
[02:08] <vetch> yea
[02:09] <drupin> bios
[02:09] <vetch> i did
[02:09] <drupin> set the boot order
[02:09] <vetch> 1st boot device was usb
[02:09] <drupin> ok
[02:09] <vetch> 2nd was 1st hdd
[02:10] <vetch> but it didnt boot it
[02:10] <vetch> thats why i resorted to using dvd
[02:10] <vetch> my computer had no trouble installing ubuntu from dvd
[02:10] <vetch> just having problems with ubuntustudio
[02:10] <drupin> keep booting 2 3 times
[02:12] <vetch> i tried a few times before i came here
[02:20] <drupin> ok
[02:20] <drupin> now
[02:23] <vetch> i can try again but i think its going to do the same
[02:23] <vetch> brb
[06:08] <haitek> hello world?
[12:32] <hatgor> Hello!
[12:32] <hatgor> I an a new ubuntu studio user
[12:32] <hatgor> Can anyone answer some questions about this system?
[12:39] <hatgor> Oh. No one hears me?
[14:23] <gaetano> hi! anyone is there!!!???
[14:25] <gaetano> i need some help with 3d drivers..they are not working: i cant open 3d blender!
[14:26] <ailo> gaetano: What graphic card do you have?
[14:28] <gaetano> ailo: NVIDIA GEFORCE GT
[14:28] <gaetano> 630 m 2GB
[14:28] <ailo> gaetano: Use the terminal, and do: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:29] <ailo> Or, if you want updates, nvidia-current-updates
[14:29] <ailo> gaetano: Which version of Ubuntu Studio? 12.04? 12.10?
[14:30] <gaetano> ailo: well my brother installed it to me 1 week ago, and i dont know wich one...is there any way to me to know wich one im using??
[14:32] <ailo> gaetano: In a terminal, do: cat /etc/issue
[14:34] <gaetano> ailo: ok first i type sudo ect...one sec!
[14:35] <ailo> gaetano: You will need to reboot before drivers take effect. Why I'm asking which version of Ubuntu you have is because there is a way to install drivers without the terminal, but it's different on the two releases
[14:36] <gaetano> ailo: ok, im gonna cal my bro and ask him wich one he installed to me
[14:38] <ailo> gaetano: Well, if you go in the menu to: Settings -> Software Sources and you see a tab called "Additional Drivers", you are using 12.10
[14:39] <ailo> Otherwise, 12.04
[14:39] <ailo> 12.10 was released less than one week ago
[14:39] <gaetano> ailo:
[14:39] <gaetano> ailo:ok im gonna chek it out
[14:40] <ailo> gaetano: If you just want to install drivers right away, you can just use the terminal. It's the same on all releases
[14:40] <ailo> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:42] <gaetano> ailo: ok i see additional drivers, so im using 12.10 isn it??
[14:43] <ailo> gaetano: Yes. Use either the one that ends with "nvidia-current" or "nvidia-updates". You need to click "Apply" to install
[14:44] <ailo> gaetano: Is one of them already chosen, or are you using the one that is called Noveau?
[14:47] <gaetano> ailo: i clicked on additional drivers but it showed me NVIDIA _experimental_310
[14:48] <gaetano> ailo: am i gotta activate it!?
[14:52] <gaetano> ailo: 3D accelerated proprietary graphics for NVIDIA card. this is the driver that appeared clicking additional drivers..i have to install it!?!?
[14:53] <gaetano> ailo: i dont know about this noveau...
[14:54] <ailo> gaetano: No the experimental. Either "nvidia-current", or "nvidia-current-updates". Read carefully
[14:56] <gaetano> ailo: nvidia current-updates doesnt appear..am i gonna typed in the terminal like u said before??
[14:57] <gaetano> ailo: am i gonna type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current " like u said before?
[14:58] <ailo> gaetano: Yes, I recommend you do that
[14:59] <gaetano> ailo: ok imgonna do it! :) dont go away! :)
[15:01] <gaetano> it says NVIDIA-current is already the newest version...
[15:03] <ailo> gaetano: Right now, I'm not sure if you already installed it using the Software Sources applications. Open (in the menu): System -> NVIDIA X Server Settings
[15:05] <gaetano> ailo: ok, it has appeared "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[15:10] <gaetano> ailo: what am i gonna do!?
[15:15] <gaetano> ailo: u still there??
[15:22] <ailo> gaetano: You need to reboot. Then it should be fine
[15:22] <ailo> gaetano: No need to do nvidia-xconfig. That stuff happens automatically'
[15:24] <ailo> gaetano: After rebooting, try the Nvidia control application again. If it again says "you do not appear to be using..", then you have a problem
[15:25] <gaetano> ailo: ok ailo, but how do i reboot??
[15:25] <ailo> gaetano: You restart your computer. boot means when the Operative System starts
[15:27] <gaetano> ailo ok after i restart, what i gotta do!? to run 3d programs like blender? because till now it dont work
[15:28] <ailo> gaetano: Just reboot. Start the Nvidia X Server Settings application again, and tell me if it says the same thing
[15:30] <gaetano> ailo: ok brb
[15:38] <gaetano> ailo:
[15:39] <ailo> gaetano: Yes
[15:41] <gaetano> ailo i restarted and i went to NVIDIA x server but it says "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[15:43] <ailo> gaetano: Is there a file called: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[15:43] <gaetano> ailo : i type it in the terminal?
[15:43] <ailo> gaetano: It's the file path
[15:44] <ailo> You can either use a file manager to go there and find the file, or if you use the terminal, you can do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:44] <ailo> gaetano: Graphic drivers are installed the same way on all Ubuntu based distros, so this is not a Ubuntu Studio problem
[15:45] <ailo> gaetano: I would use google to find out if there are any issues with your graphic card version and Ubuntu 12.10.
[15:45] <ailo> Also, you could head to ubuntuforums.org, or #ubuntu
[15:46] <ailo> gaetano: If there is a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, delete it, and then reboot. If not, then you have a problem with your graphic card and the nvidia drivers
[15:46] <ailo> gaetano: That is as much as I can help you, sorry
[15:48] <gaetano> ailo: i typed /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it showed "permission denied"
[15:49] <gaetano> ailo: dont worry u have been very kind! and helpful! i thank u a lot!
[15:51] <ailo> gaetano: The command is "ls". So: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:51] <ailo> The file can only be removed as root
[15:51] <ailo> You could just do: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:51] <ailo> If it's there, it will be removed, if not, you didn't do anything bad
[15:54] <gaetano> ailo: ok i typed "ls" and appeared "documenti immagini modelli musica pubblici scrivania video"
[15:55] <gaetano> ailo: so now i gotta reboot to delete it?
[15:55] <ailo> gaetano: No, you didn't read what I wrote very carefully
[15:56] <ailo> gaetano: To see the file you do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:56] <ailo> I mean, to see if it is there
[15:56] <ailo> To remove it: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:57] <ailo> These are commands: ls, sudo, rm. This is a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[15:57] <ailo> "ls" lists files. "sudo" gives you admin rights. "rm" removes files
[15:57] <gaetano> ailo: ok it shows only my name and the name of my pal top
[15:58] <gaetano> lap top
[15:59] <gaetano> no no sorry..lol it showed /etc/X11/xorg.conf..i delet it!?
[15:59] <ailo> gaetano: Yes. Delete it
[15:59] <ailo> And then reboot
[16:00] <gaetano> says rm: missing aperand, what is means?
[16:01] <ailo> gaetano: It means you did not write the command I showed you
[16:01] <ailo> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:04] <gaetano> ailo: ok thank u very much! i will let u know if it has worked! i gotta go! thank u again! see u here!!!
[16:04] <gaetano> bye
[16:18] <rickbol> ubuntu update-manager update my kernel to 3.2.0-32.51-generic-pae. When might a lowlatency kernel update be available?
[16:20] <ailo> rickbol: If you don't want the generic kernel, you could just uninstall it.
[16:21] <ailo> There hasn't been any updates for -lowlatency on precise for a while
[16:21] <ailo> 12.10 has regular updates, at same pace with -generic
[16:28] <rickbol> is it recommended that ubuntustudio releases do a dist-upgrade to 12.10?
[16:28] <ailo> rickbol: No. We recommend a fresh install
[16:29] <rickbol> Well I thought the 12.04 LTS would be a long lasting "base install", but no?
[16:30] <ailo> The -lowlatency may be updated later. I'm trying to make that happen
[16:30] <ailo> 12.04 will be supported the longest, but as for quality for multimedia applications, it doesn't stand out
[16:31] <ailo> I don't know how different XFCE is between releases, but I would guess also that does not follow LTS in the sense that LTS is the most polished
[16:32] <ailo> Anything Ubuntu specific might be more polished on the LTS
[16:32] <ailo> I'm hearing ATI drivers don't install on 12.10
[16:32] <hatgor> ailo, who tells you that? It's too bad...
[16:33] <ailo> I was unable to install them myself, a week ago. I don't have ATI at home, so I don't really know much about it
[16:33] <ailo> There was someone here who had the same problem
[16:34] <rickbol> My motivating problem is that I can't get stable wifi working on this Dell 630. Iv'e tried the default bcm4311 and now an intel 4965agn. Both crap out.
[16:34] <rickbol> the bcm4311 work fine under AVLinux5.x. The intel 4965 has problems.
[16:35] <ailo> rickbol: Which kernel version on AVLinux?
[16:35] <rickbol> hmm, it's older. Maybe a 2.6.xx, or early 3.0.x
[16:37] <ailo> rickbol: I can't say for sure, but it does sound like a kernel version issue. If you'd like to try an older kernel version, I made a guide for compiling one here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildOldLowlatency
[16:38] <rickbol> actually, 3.0.30-avl-8-pae
[16:38] <ailo> I'd google about the device first though, to see when and why the problem happens
[16:38] <ailo> A blind test with 12.10 I guess would just be booting the live image and see how that works out
[16:40] <rickbol> there are some bugs (regressions?) on both wifi devices, but they're 1yr+ old. I'm blown away that these releases would continue with these bugs.
[16:40] <rickbol> I'm really just trying to identify a card that'll work well in this Dell 630
[16:40] <ailo> rickbol: Not Ubuntu's fault. I don't know who makes those drivers. Could be they are not free? And in that case, not anyone can edit the code
[16:41] <ailo> Also, sometimes it happens they remove stuff, because of legal issues
[16:41] <ailo> You could try some kernel forum, or mail list about this
[16:42] <rickbol> well the drivers used to work fine. And these are very common wifi cards. Broadcom and Intel sometimes help, sometimes hinder. But what card has opensource drivers that work?
[16:43] <ailo> I have no idea. If they are open source, then there will be some place for the code, and some sort of mail list
[16:43] <rickbol> I'll boot 12.10 and see what happens. Thx.
[16:52] <rickbol> how do I know if I'm running 64 or 32-bit kernel?
[16:58] <ailo> rickbol: PAE is 32 bit
[16:58] <ailo> rickbol: You can do: uname -a
[16:58] <ailo> Will let you know if it's 32 bit or 64 bit system
[16:59] <ailo> This being 64bit x86_64
[17:05] <Zardozo> hi folks!
[17:06] <Zardozo> go a problen after a fresh install of studio12.10
[17:06] <Zardozo> jack wont start
[17:06] <ailo> Zardozo: What kind of problem?
[17:07] <ailo> Zardozo: Are you very familiar with jack?
[17:07] <Zardozo> nope
[17:07] <ailo> Make sure no audio applications are running. Including web browsers with audio content
[17:07] <ailo> Kill jackdbus and pulseaudio: killall -9 jackdbus && killall pulseaudio
[17:08] <ailo> Make sure to choose the right device, before starting jack
[17:08] <ailo> Zardozo: Unfortunately qjackctl has problems shutting down jackdbus
[17:09] <Zardozo> hey that worked
[17:09] <Zardozo> now jack has started
[17:09] <ailo> Zardozo: When you stop jack, and it doesn't stop, jackdbus will be left running in the background. You could make a little script for killing it
[17:10] <ailo> If you don't need dbus support (ladish, and some other things), just disable dbus support in qjackctl settings
[17:10] <ailo> This will have qjackctl start jackd instead of jackdbus, and you should have no more problems of that kinds
[17:10] <Zardozo> cool
[17:11] <ailo> Oh, that will also disable pulseaudio autocreating sink and source to jack
[17:12] <Zardozo> ok
[17:15] <Zardozo> yeah i don't need sytem sounds anyway when doing my audio work
[17:16] <Zardozo> what does this mean?
[17:16] <Zardozo> qjackctl.real:7772): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:16] <Zardozo> (qjackctl.real:7772): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:16] <ailo> Don't know. It's something new to me.
[17:17] <ailo> Sounds like something to do with GTK
[17:17] <Zardozo> my server prefix is set to jackd
[17:17] <Zardozo> not jackdbus
[17:19] <Zardozo> i topped qjack  and restarted and got this. it still works
[17:19] <Zardozo> 12:18:32.146 Patchbay deactivated.
[17:19] <Zardozo> 12:18:32.159 Statistics reset.
[17:19] <Zardozo> 12:18:32.169 ALSA connection change.
[17:19] <Zardozo> 12:18:32.209 D-BUS: Service is available (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).
[17:19] <Zardozo> Cannot connect to server socket err = Connection refused
[17:19] <Zardozo> Cannot connect to server request channel
[17:19] <Zardozo> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[17:19] <Zardozo> 12:18:32.217 ALSA connection graph change.
[17:19] <Zardozo> (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:20] <Zardozo> (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:20] <Zardozo> 12:18:41.671 D-BUS: JACK server is starting...
[17:20] <Zardozo> Cannot connect to server socket err = Connection refused
[17:20] <Zardozo> Cannot connect to server request channel
[17:20] <Zardozo> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[17:20] <Zardozo> (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:20] <Zardozo> (qjackctl.real:7979): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:20] <Zardozo> 12:18:41.704 D-BUS: JACK server was started (org.jackaudio.service aka jackdbus).
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: Starting jack server...
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:0
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:0
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: Acquired audio card Audio0
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: control device hw:0
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 2 periods
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: graph reorder: new port 'system:capture_1'
[17:20] <Zardozo> Sun Oct 21 12:18:41 2012: New client 'syste
[17:21] <ailo> Zardozo: You could use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for this sort of thing
[17:21] <ailo> If jack starts, then there's no error
[17:23] <Zardozo> li this right http://paste.ubuntu.com/1295524/
[17:23] <Zardozo> cool idea
[17:24] <Zardozo> thaks a bunch
[17:24] <Zardozo> thanks
[17:26] <Zardozo> pulse sink and sourse are autoconnected too
[17:33] <Zardozo> well good at least i know what to do if it hapens again
[17:38] <Zardozo> well i rebooted and jack still works. i guess they should add that line to the ubuntu studio installation
[17:39] <Zardozo> again thanks for the help ailo
[17:55] <rickbol> should usbsticks be automounted on 12.04?
[18:00] <ailo> rickbol: nope
[18:00] <ailo> I think it was changed for 12.10
[18:14] <ailo> Zardozo: Are you the one who posted on ubuntustudio-testing?
[18:14] <Zardozo> yep
[18:14] <ailo> Ok
[18:15] <ailo> Zardozo: Not many subscribing to that mail list. Intended for posting testing results, when testing development versions of Ubuntu Studio. Not active yet
[18:15] <Zardozo> oh ok
[18:16] <ailo> Any problems you have, you are free to post on ubuntu-studio-user
[18:16] <Zardozo> ok
[18:16] <Zardozo> that a frenode channel
[18:17] <Zardozo> nope
[18:19] <Zardozo> this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-users
[18:22] <Zardozo> cool i'm subscribed
[18:26] <ailo> Zardozo: Yea, that's the one
[18:27] <ailo> Zardozo: Let me also point you to #opensourcemusicians. A good channel for various audio related topics
[18:27] <ailo> And another mail list, which is very useful is linux-audio-user
[18:27] <rickbol> what is the syntax to mount a usb drive read\write at the command line? (I've read a dozen googled articles already, & the man page)
[18:28] <ailo> rickbol: I usually just do: sudo mount /dev/sd** /media/somefolder
[18:28] <ailo> First: sudo mkdir /media/somefolder
[18:28] <ailo> replace ** with your device
[18:29] <ailo> In my case it could be sdb1
[18:29] <ailo> You can use the disk utility tool to see which it is
[18:29] <rickbol> "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive1" returns "mount: warning: /media/usbdrive1 seems to be mounted read-only."
[18:30] <ailo> hmm, let me check. I don't do this often.. (umask)
[18:34] <ailo> rickbol: Try: sudo mount umask=0022 /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive1
[18:35] <ailo> rickbol: I don't have these kind of problems myself. Were you the one with the curious laptop and no usb mounting?
[18:35] <ailo> rickbol: I mean, the usb should appear in the file manager, but not be mounted
[18:35] <ailo> By clicking on it, it should be mounted
[18:36] <rickbol> would that be "... -o umask=0022..."
[18:38] <rickbol> the drive doesn't show up in the file amanger
[18:39] <ailo> rickbol: Ah, yeah. -o umask=0022
[18:40] <ailo> rickbol: Seems like some kind of a pattern now. Two people who can't get their usb devices to mount properly
[18:40] <ailo> Only 12.10?
[18:41] <rickbol> I'm trying to put 12.10 on a usb drive with unetbootin to see if my wifi card works under 12.10. I'm on 12.04
[18:42] <ailo> rickbol: It seems like some HW don't play well regarding usb mounting
[18:42] <ailo> Try another computer, if you have one
[18:43] <rickbol> I put 12.04 on a usb drive using this computer, running AVLinux 5.x.
[18:44] <ailo> rickbol: Apparently, there are other problems with later kernel versions (if that is the cause)
[18:45] <rickbol> ok. booting to AVLinux 5.0 to put 12.10 on a usb drive. thx.
[19:24] <Zardozo> i  have a biostar A780L3G mobo with an ati 3000hd chipset. how do i snstal flgrx drivers forit?
[19:25] <Zardozo> ubuntustudio 12.10
[19:30] <Zardozo> lshw outut  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1295848/
[19:59] <Zardozo> nevermind card not supported orphaned again
[19:59] <Zardozo> reverting back to 12.04. cheaper than buying a new card
[20:00] <Zardozo> thankfull i've backed up my files
[20:23] <acmeinc> have there been any reports from fmit (tuner) crashing during gladish Studio load?
[20:28] <Zardozo> Installing 12.04 while i save for a new videocard or wait for ATI tomake a driver  compatable with the new xorg.  shoudn't that be the other way around?
[20:30] <Zardozo> my mobo isn't that old.
[20:32] <Zardozo> yeah 12.04 is good enough
[21:15] <MaynardWaters> so i start up qjackctl
[21:15] <MaynardWaters> then i open mixxx or hydrogen
[21:15] <MaynardWaters> i start playing
[21:15] <MaynardWaters> its coming out of my speakers great
[21:16] <MaynardWaters> now i want to plug in my head phones
[21:16] <MaynardWaters> so  i do and expect it to continue to play in the ear buds,
[21:16] <MaynardWaters> but nothing comes out of the ear buds, but the speakers stop producing sound
[21:16] <MaynardWaters> i unplug, and the speakers are playing
[21:16] <MaynardWaters> any advice?
[21:50] <MaynardWaters> rosegarden.....
[23:14] <acmeinc> anyone have experience with gladish?