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[17:51] <[twisti]> hello, im working on my own upstart job because theres nothing decent for mysql out there, and i got it working with start and stop, but when i do restart job, it just stops it, and doesnt start it, what could cause that ? how could i debug that ?
[18:46] <SpamapS> [twisti]: you don't like the official ubuntu mysql upstart job?
[18:46] <[twisti]> no, of course not, it starts a raw mysqld instead of the proper mysqld_safe, so a bunch of options are outright ignored
[18:48] <SpamapS> [twisti]: such as?
[18:49] <SpamapS> [twisti]: I'm in charge of maintenance of that package, so I'm definitely interested to hear your thoughts
[18:49] <SpamapS> [twisti]: tho I also triage the bugs and I haven't seen any complaints of that nature come by
[18:49] <[twisti]> all of those
[18:49] <[twisti]> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqld-safe.html
[18:49] <[twisti]> though of course some settings are duplicates
[18:49]  * SpamapS skips forward to 5.5 .. 5.0 is so.. 2006
[18:50] <[twisti]> for me the biggest issue was nice level
[18:50] <[twisti]> oh yeah, sorry, wrong link
[18:50] <SpamapS> nice level is built into upstart
[18:51] <SpamapS> [twisti]: as in, add a line 'nice X'
[18:51] <SpamapS> [twisti]: you can even do it in a non-intrusive way by putting that in /etc/init/mysql.override instead of mysql.conf
[18:51] <[twisti]> ill keep that in mind for next time
[18:52] <[twisti]> in any case, ignoring the actual mysql setting and doing it a different, proprietary way does not seem like a good way to me
[18:53] <SpamapS> [twisti]: I suspect the reason you might be seeing problems with restart is that after stopping you need to wait for mysqld_safe to actually exit, or it will complain about conflicting pidfiles or something like that.
[18:53] <[twisti]> ill look into that
[18:53] <[twisti]> thanks for the tip
[18:53] <SpamapS> [twisti]: upstart's job file syntax is meant to replace all of the complexity of shell scripts like mysqld_safe
[18:54] <SpamapS> [twisti]: I wouldn't call something using published unix API's like "nice" as "proprietary"
[18:54] <[twisti]> i understand that, but considering that when you google for mysql nice info, you will get the official "niceness = 0" or whatever the setting is, which then wont work, i dont think this is an appropriate case
[18:55] <[twisti]> but im not using published unix APIs, im using a flag in a config file for upstart
[18:55] <SpamapS> [twisti]: I do see your point. Perhaps we should issue log warnings if we find mysqld_safe only configs in my.cnf
[18:56] <[twisti]> it would be one thing if you were transitioning away from ubuntu specific things, but mysqld_safe is part of mysql
[18:56] <[twisti]> that would be a good compromise i suppose
[18:56] <SpamapS> [twisti]: its part of mysql that we're not using because it is redundant with upstart.
[18:57] <SpamapS> Such is the burden we bear to have a more tightly integrated system. :-/