[03:55] <espen77> any way to see the "key" for an installed unauthorized package?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:43] <fasta> How can I check for the package database being locked?
[14:44] <fasta> E.g. is there some dpkg utility which just returns 'yes/no'? I don't care for atomicity.
[14:50] <Pici> fasta: if /var/lib/dpkg/lock exists iirc.
[14:50] <fasta> Pici: that's not the only precondition.
[14:51] <IdleOne> seems to be the only condition that would matter. All dpkg frontends create that file when in use
[14:53]  * IdleOne puts on a FunnyLookinHat 
[14:53] <IdleOne> Always liked your nick :)
[14:53] <FunnyLookinHat> pffttt whatever.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, are you using server for Canada in the package manager or if not which one ?.... changing the sources.list to raring repos isn't workiong here
[15:08] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: yes, ca.archive
[15:09] <IdleOne> all I did was change quantal to raring and then did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:10] <IdleOne> lsb still shows 12.10 but that is probably because of (I can't remember which file) hasn't been updated yet.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> which package manger because muon doesn't allow me to choose a server other than main or server for canada
[15:10] <IdleOne> I did it manually.
[15:11] <IdleOne> via terminal
[15:12] <FunnyLookinHat> hah - sorry connection issues
[15:12] <FunnyLookinHat> IdleOne, glad you like it  :D
[15:12] <IdleOne> FunnyLookinHat: :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ok , I've forgotten the command to change the server from the terminal
[15:13] <BluesKaj> IdleOne,^
[15:13] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: sudo sed -i 's/quantal/raring/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:13] <tsimpson> along with the regular "use at your own risk" warning
[15:14] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: in Muon > Settings > Configure Software Sources > First tab is Kubuntu Software > Download from, click other.
[15:14] <tsimpson> you can 's/archive\.ubutnu\.com/my.funky.server/g' too, sed is fun
[15:14] <IdleOne> you should get a list of servers, select the one you want, apply the change or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:16] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, it doesn't hold , all I can get is server for Canada , there's no specific server listed after I choose waterloo for example
[15:17] <IdleOne> Under server for Canada it should say Other
[15:17] <IdleOne> anyway I am using  http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[15:18] <jpds> Of course, that domain isn't in canada.
[15:18] <IdleOne> where is it?
[15:18] <jpds> London, UK.
[15:19] <IdleOne> heh, so I'm using the main server
[15:19] <IdleOne> let me try changing to something local
[15:21] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: you're right, it doesn't hold the change
[15:21] <jbicha> jpds: how do you know where the server is?
[15:21] <jpds> jbicha: I have my ways
[15:21] <IdleOne> jbicha: he dusts them weekly :)
[15:22] <IdleOne> jpds: is it normal right now that Muon isn't saving the change to a local archive?
[15:22] <jpds> IdleOne: Muon?
[15:22] <IdleOne> yeah Muon Update Manager
[15:23] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, oddly enough it's holding in muon , but it's still updating the repos
[15:24] <jbicha> jpds: since there are several archive mirrors in Canada, why doesn't Canonical just point that domain to one of them?
[15:24] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: also make sure you check the boxes in the Kubuntu Software tab.
[15:26] <IdleOne> hmm shouldn't /etc/apt/sources.list be updated when changing the source from the update manager?
[15:27] <IdleOne> Muon is now using gpl.savoirfaire but sources.list still shows ca.archive
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ok IdleOne , yeah i did , ..I'm still on quantal in the sources list because sed-ing it to raring didn't help upgrade to 13.04
[15:29] <IdleOne> beats me
[15:30] <IdleOne> maybe the Universe is protecting you from total failure :)
[15:30] <IdleOne> that would mean the Universe doesn't care if I fail :/
[15:30] <IdleOne> I hate the Universe!
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ok what's the best command to change the sources.list to raring ? I have one that uses the sed command but the repos don't appear to work when updating/upgrading/distupgrading
[15:31] <IdleOne> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <IdleOne> do it manually
[15:32] <IdleOne> that way you see the changes being made and don't have to doubt if sed worked or not.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> well , I have a 12.10 backup partition ...this onre is for testing so I'm not  afraid to try stuff
[15:33] <IdleOne> also you would still need to sudo sed ,.,.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> yeah i tried both methods , so my conclusion is the server didn't have the 13.04 packages
[15:36] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, but archive.ca has them ?
[15:37] <IdleOne> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[17:36] <jpwhiting> hey all, I have a problem on my quantal machine,  I am not able to execute a binary in the android ndk
[17:37] <jpwhiting> I have removed apparmor a week or so ago, is there something else I need to remove to be able to execute binaries?
[17:37] <bekks> jpwhiting: You cant execute binaries for another platform.
[17:38] <jpwhiting> file says the android-ndk arm-linux-gcc is a dynamic elf 32 bit executable
[17:38] <jpwhiting> but ldd says it's not a dynamic executable
[17:38] <jpwhiting> bekks: it's an x86 binary, that's part of the android ndk
[17:38] <bekks> jpwhiting: What happens when you run it from terminal?
[17:39] <jpwhiting> bash says "No such file or directory"
[17:39] <jpwhiting> though I own the file and it has owner and group executable permissions
[17:39] <jpwhiting> I checked the md5sum on the android ndk tarball I downloaded too, so it's a valid download
[17:40] <jpwhiting> the permissions are rwxr-x--- and it's owned by me and in my group
[17:40] <jpwhiting> I've never seen a binary I own with these permissions not run before
[17:41] <jpwhiting> but this is my first experience with the android ndk also
[17:41] <micahg> jpwhiting: quantal support is in #ubuntu now (it's been released)
[17:41] <jpwhiting> micahg: true, ok
[17:41] <bekks> Well. "No such file or directory" is pretty obvious.
[17:41] <bekks> It isnt in your path.
[17:41] <jpwhiting> bekks: how is it obvious, the file is there, bash even did the completion for me
[17:42] <jpwhiting> I did ./arm-linux-androideabi-gcc
[17:42] <jpwhiting> from within that folder
[17:42] <bekks> 1022 193801 < jpwhiting> file says the android-ndk arm-linux-gcc is a dynamic elf 32 bit  executable
[17:42] <bekks> Which file do we talk about now?
[17:42] <jpwhiting> arm-linux-androideabi-gcc
[17:43] <jpwhiting> sorry, I didn't type the whole name when I said that, my bad
[17:43] <micahg> jpwhiting: BTW, removing apparmor wholesale is generally a bad idea
[17:43] <bekks> then provide the complete output of "ls -lha ." and "./arm-linux-androideabi-gcc" please, in a pastebin.
[17:43] <jpwhiting> micahg: it was the quickest way to get mysqld to work with my self built kde akonadi
[17:44] <jpwhiting> bekks: http://pastebin.com/UZRv2fFu
[17:44] <jpwhiting> btw, thanks for looking into this with me
[17:45] <micahg> jpwhiting: putting the mysql profile in complain mode would've sufficed and kept all the other parts of your system protected
[17:45] <bekks> jpwhiting: And the output of "./arm-linux-androideabi-gcc", too, please.
[17:45] <jpwhiting> bekks: yep, it's at the bottom
[17:45] <jpwhiting> ah, of running it, one sec
[17:46] <jpwhiting> http://pastebin.com/FME0DX0n
[17:50] <jpwhiting> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12820421/android-ndk-build-error-on-ubuntu-12-10-32-bit seems related, except that the file is there in my case
[17:50]  * jpwhiting extracts a third time with tar -jxf instead of tar -jxpvf
[18:04] <jpwhiting> bekks: solved it, apparently I needed the 32 bit libc
[18:04] <jpwhiting> not sure why ldd couldn't tell me that, but meh
[18:04] <jpwhiting> thanks for your help
[20:14] <BluesKaj> odd, server ca.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't contain any 12.04 packages unless I'm sill blocked somehow, which seems to be the case ...wonder if some can direct me to a mirror that actually has the packages
[20:14] <Pici> !mirrorstatus
[20:14] <BluesKaj> correction 13.04 packages that is
[20:19] <BluesKaj> Pici, the Canadian and US servers don't appear to have 13.04 in the their repos ... any other suggestions,  launchpad only list up to 12.10
[20:19] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: I see raring in there: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/
[20:21] <IdleOne> !info python-crypto
[20:21] <IdleOne> !info python-crypto raring
[20:21] <tsimpson> it doesn't have raring yet, I have to add it sometime ;)
[20:21] <IdleOne> would be nice :)
[20:30] <tsimpson> @reload PackageInfo
[20:30] <tsimpson> !info python-crypto raring
[20:30] <tsimpson> IdleOne: done :)
[20:31] <IdleOne> thank you
[20:31] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: ca.archive has that package. Muon just updated it for me
[20:34] <BluesKaj> ca,archive ..is that the full url , IdleOne ?
[20:34] <IdleOne> no
[20:34] <IdleOne> one sec
[20:35] <IdleOne> here is my /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:35] <IdleOne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1298529/
[20:36] <IdleOne> err change the last line to raring
[20:38] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, yeah mine looks very much the same  , ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[20:38] <BluesKaj> oops no dist
[20:39] <IdleOne> and when you do dist-upgrade no packages are offered?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> nope nothing
[20:42] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, I'll try yours
[20:47] <BluesKaj> idleone , still nothing ...something is blocking my upgrade to 13,04  , I can feel it in my bones :)
[20:48] <BluesKaj> bbiab , gotta check the canada post box
[20:54] <FernandoMiguel> ola
[20:55] <BluesKaj> hey FernandoMiguel
[20:56] <FernandoMiguel> BluesKaj: I did not reboot my laptop last night :)
[20:56] <FernandoMiguel> so I can't confirm the release change ehe
[20:57] <BluesKaj> something is blocking my upgrade to 13,04 . FernandoMiguel , Ive tried all the US and Canadian servers and the Main , but the there are no packages offered
[20:58] <FernandoMiguel> BluesKaj: you do have it to NON LTS currect ?
[20:58] <BluesKaj> oh yeah
[20:59] <IdleOne> it should be set to normal Releases on the update tab in muon
[20:59] <BluesKaj> atm I don't have a GUI package manager installed,  using apt-get
[21:00] <FernandoMiguel> that won't work
[21:00] <FernandoMiguel> you need to change the release cycle
[21:01] <BluesKaj> muon apper and synaptic didn't work either , the sources.list is changed to raring , for main , restricted. universe and multiverse
[21:02] <BluesKaj> I've been at this for approx 12 hrs over the last 2 days and I'm not getting anywhere
[21:04] <IdleOne> I almost want to ssh into your box and see
[21:04] <BluesKaj> sorry , I'm not that desperate :)
[21:04] <IdleOne> I didn't you were
[21:04] <IdleOne> think*
[21:05] <IdleOne> but it is strange that you are not getting any package upgrades
[21:06] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, you said that universe is a problem sometimes , what did you mean ?
[21:06] <IdleOne> I meant the Universe ( space)
[21:06] <BluesKaj> oh  ..ok :)
[21:06] <IdleOne> not universe the repos
[21:06] <IdleOne> :)
[21:16] <FernandoMiguel> ahahhaah
[21:17] <FernandoMiguel> The following packages will be upgraded: 34 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 14,3 MB of archives.
[21:17] <FernandoMiguel> sorry to bully you BluesKaj, but it works for me
[21:18] <BluesKaj> just reinstalled muon , so that means apt is till looking at quantal sources
[21:20] <BluesKaj> FernandoMiguel, bully ? ... it's a problem that's solvable , just have to find the offending config file I bet
[21:37] <BluesKaj> yeah , the sources are all raring in the gui a, but it acts as if the sources are quantal due to the 4 upgrades available , mostly python stuff
[22:00] <IdleOne> /etc/os-release just got updated
[22:00] <IdleOne> lsb now says 13.04
[22:08] <FernandoMiguel> humm
[22:08] <FernandoMiguel> Description:	Ubuntu 12.10