[12:58] <xnox> I like OEM language selection screen so much better. I think I want to show that + links to releasenotes/update installer, when booting into only-ubiquity mode.
[13:14] <cjwatson> xnox: The grid one?  Please no.  It's awful.
[13:14] <xnox> cjwatson: ack.
[13:15] <cjwatson> It's an attempt to cram everything onto one screen.  Once the number of languages gets beyond what will fit (and that will happen as soon as you try to fit any more widgets onto that screen ...), it becomes basically pointless.
[13:15] <xnox> cjwatson: the designers never saw OEM mode, but they will once I finish the upload of 12.10 ubiquity slidestack. Maybe they will come up with something pretty and usable.
[13:16] <cjwatson> OEM basically demanded that view so that Chinese would be on the screen by default
[13:16] <cjwatson> I refused to have it for ubiquity proper, which is why we have this uneasy conditional compromise.
[13:16] <cjwatson> A list box isn't great either, certainly, but I don't see the point in going from something moderately awful to something else thoroughly awful :-)
[13:17] <xnox> but should the first oem config install in chinese such that it's already pre-localised in chinese for the first user, with options to switch to english....
[13:17] <xnox> s/install in/ install be in/
[13:17] <xnox> as in, the problem is that it's not in the chinese in the first place for the chinese SKU / OEM shipment.
[13:18]  * xnox will test that.
[13:21] <cjwatson> Only if the factory install is done in Chinese, which IIRC is not always the case.
[13:23] <xnox> fair enough.... it's not the end of the world though.
[13:24] <xnox> =)
[14:48] <xnox> cjwatson: chineese is not visible on the end-user OEM welcome screen. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/p7qkWq7owtWCooQFYZOqPHkpebEhXhZUik8MURUNjUM?feat=directlink
[14:48] <xnox> with 12.10 final images.
[14:50] <cjwatson> Yeah.  It used to be, but no doubt the language list grew as I suggested above.
[14:55] <xnox> and the "overlay-scrollbar" is very helpful as well.... can easily miss that. But the "cut" in half languages suggest it's scrollable ;-)
[15:40] <xnox> Ubiquity 12.10 slide decks are up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/SlideDecks