| * micahg wonders where the sponsoring queue went | 01:41 | |
| maxiaojun | hi | 04:56 |
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| maxiaojun | I want to make "tegaki-zinnia-traditional-chinese" into Ubuntu. pad.lv/1069292 | 04:57 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:19 |
| obounaim | Good morning everybody | 07:22 |
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| iulian | Morning dholbach. | 08:33 |
| dholbach | hi iulian | 08:35 |
| vibhav | hmm, anybody knows what happened to the sponsor queue? | 09:06 |
| Laney | dholbach: ^? | 09:16 |
| dholbach | Laney, what is the question? | 10:32 |
| dholbach | vibhav, ^ | 10:32 |
| dholbach | Last updated at: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:24:30 -0000 | 10:32 |
| dholbach | looks fine to me | 10:32 |
| Laney | am i going to the wrong link? | 10:33 |
| Laney | !sponsoring | 10:33 |
| ubottu | You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ | 10:33 |
| dholbach | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 10:33 |
| vibhav | reqorts | 10:33 |
| vibhav | Its http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ on the topic | 10:33 |
| Laney | yeah reqorts?! | 10:33 |
| dholbach | so | 10:34 |
| dholbach | ? | 10:34 |
| dholbach | what's the question? :) | 10:34 |
| Laney | has that always been it? | 10:34 |
| Laney | did reports work before? | 10:34 |
| Laney | it's at least linked from that wiki page | 10:34 |
| Laney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 10:34 |
| dholbach | in the last few years it's always been there | 10:34 |
| Laney | (and in my browser history as reports) | 10:34 |
| vibhav | dholbach: the topic links to http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ and not http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring | 10:35 |
| Laney | I suspect some redirect stopped working | 10:35 |
| dholbach | ok, then maybe it should be fixed there | 10:35 |
| dholbach | I've got to rush off, so I'll leave you guys to it :) | 10:35 |
| dholbach | see you in a bit | 10:35 |
| Laney | heh | 10:35 |
| Laney | I'd rather not fix every link | 10:35 |
| vibhav | Can I do it then? | 10:36 |
| * Laney asks IS | 10:36 | |
| vibhav | I always that it was reports, wierd :| | 10:37 |
| vibhav | what does reqorts mean anyway? | 10:37 |
| Laney | I strongly suspect that there was a redirect | 10:37 |
| vibhav | probably | 10:37 |
| Laney | checking | 10:38 |
| Laney | anyone seen python-keyring (or whatever it is) forcing you to reset your keyring password every time? | 10:46 |
| Laney | Please enter password for encrypted keyring: | 10:46 |
| Laney | Please set a password for your new keyring: | 10:46 |
| Laney | Please confirm the password: | 10:46 |
| xnox | Laney: did you change your user password? | 10:48 |
| xnox | in a non-gui way? | 10:49 |
| Laney | no, I just created the keyring | 10:49 |
| Laney | there is no GUI, it's inside lxc | 10:49 |
| xnox | horum. sorry, no idea. | 10:49 |
| Laney | that makes two of us | 10:50 |
| vibhav | Laney: nope | 10:50 |
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| Laney | vibhav: should be coming back soonish | 11:13 |
| vibhav | thanks | 11:14 |
| Laney | dholbach: Turns out reports.qa.u.c got moved to a new server which didn't have the old /reports/ stuff (reqorts is the old server which used to be reports) | 11:14 |
| vibhav | reposts! | 11:15 |
| vibhav | Anyways, thanks again | 11:15 |
| cjwatson | All you folks doing syncs to raring may want to hold off a bit. | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | Depending on how our upload changes work out, they may end up being rejected. | 11:38 |
| Laney | what about manual uploads? | 11:39 |
| cjwatson | Those should be fine | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | (Not that I'm encouraging people to do manual uploads that should be syncs) | 11:40 |
| Laney | no, I meant real ones | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | If you must do syncs early, then for now I suggest targeting raring-proposed rather than raring. | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | Worst case for that is a bit of extra work for archive admins. | 11:40 |
| Laney | hm, UDD seems unhappy | 11:41 |
| Laney | http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ "11228 outstanding jobs" | 11:41 |
| Laney | is this a usual release opening thing? | 11:42 |
| Laney | bzr branch lp:debian/unstable/<anything> fails | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | Laney: need to ask for it to be re-enabled - trying to figure that out now | 11:46 |
| Laney | cjwatson: great, cheers | 11:46 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: online? | 11:58 |
| Laney | Rhonda: could you make packages.u.c list quantal-{updates,backports}? | 11:58 |
| Laney | also possibly raring (and maybe it is now interesting to list -proposed for the dev series?) | 11:58 |
| cjwatson | That would encourage users to use <dev>-proposed, so I wouldn't recommend that | 11:59 |
| cjwatson | quantal-{updates,backports} and raring should indeed happen though | 11:59 |
| dholbach | mitya57, yes | 12:00 |
| Laney | yeah, maybe it would | 12:00 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: I won't be happy until developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html is fixed :) | 12:01 |
| Laney | -backports is now extant for the development release, on the other hand | 12:01 |
| mitya57 | (now everything returns 403) | 12:01 |
| Laney | d.u.c works here | 12:01 |
| Laney | packaging guide's css is busted though | 12:02 |
| geser | Laney: if you find a work-around for the password changing (from python-keyring) let me know plz. I see it in my dev chroot too and it's annoying :( | 12:02 |
| mitya57 | that's because it's now symlinked to /usr/share/ubuntu-packaging-guide/ | 12:02 |
| Laney | geser: I've been hacking scripts to set credentials_file | 12:02 |
| Laney | perhaps we should, like, debug it | 12:03 |
| dholbach | mitya57, I know - it's on my list - today is a crazy day | 12:03 |
| dholbach | mitya57, I'll take care of it in a bit | 12:03 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: I understand... | 12:04 |
| dholbach | ok | 12:04 |
| dholbach | will let you know when it's fixed | 12:04 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: not needed | 12:04 |
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| geser | Laney: I was simply using requestsync to trigger it | 12:18 |
| Laney | geser: yes, it's trivial to trigger | 12:19 |
| Laney | i'm saying we should find out why it happens and file a bug | 12:19 |
| Rhonda | Laney: Ah, of course. | 12:47 |
| Rhonda | Laney: "are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?" | 12:48 |
| Rhonda | natty is discontinued now, right? | 12:54 |
| mitya57 | Rhonda: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anypackage says it's still supported | 13:04 |
| mitya57 | The close date is something like Oct 28 | 13:05 |
| Rhonda | I won't let it in, commit the change for quantal release now and remove it in a week's time from the packages site. | 13:08 |
| Rhonda | That doesn't make much sense to me. :) | 13:08 |
| al-maisan | is there a way of setting the JAVA_HOME env. variable in arch-independent fashion so that the JVM is found irrespective of 32/64 bit installation? | 13:09 |
| al-maisan | Right now I use JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64" but I guess that won't work on a 32-bit system, right? | 13:10 |
| Rhonda | hahahaha, MOTD on jubany.c.c :D | 13:12 |
| Rhonda | "do not reboot" in banner lettering. :) | 13:12 |
| Rhonda | hmmmm | 13:12 |
| al-maisan | hmm .. /usr/lib/jvm/default-java is arch-independent and what I was looking for | 13:24 |
| Rhonda | Laney, cjwatson: Should be done, after the next cron job/mirror push. | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | Thanks | 13:31 |
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| Laney | Rhonda: great | 13:56 |
| Laney | maybe you want to remove Frank's name ;-) | 13:56 |
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| Rhonda | He's still there? | 14:18 |
| Laney | at the top, yeah | 14:19 |
| Laney | ... and the bottom | 14:19 |
| Rhonda | huhm, right | 14:19 |
| Rhonda | … and this MOTD motivates me to finally start up aewan again and produce some ubuntu branded ascii art. :) | 14:19 |
| Rhonda | … including offering my own figlet font for the lettering. | 14:20 |
| nigelb | You have your own figlet font? | 14:20 |
| * nigelb bows | 14:20 | |
| Rhonda | Yes. | 14:20 |
| * highvoltage needs new figlet fonts | 14:20 | |
| Rhonda | Actually I should pester sam to include it as default for toilet, but I think he's more interested in utf8 fonts | 14:21 |
| Laney | figlet FIG figlet FIG | 14:21 |
| Rhonda | http://fav.me/d7ghx8 is one of the favorites of my creations. ;) | 14:22 |
| highvoltage | that looks gimped. | 14:22 |
| Rhonda | :) | 14:28 |
| Rhonda | Laney: Hmm, well, I'm looking after it these days, but I wouldn't call it maintaining. I'm uncertain. Not until I changed a bit more of the code. :) | 14:28 |
| Rhonda | But, the "to report a problem" I will change right ahead, yes. | 14:28 |
| Rhonda | ok, the dynamic pages already have my email address at the bottom, the rest will follow after the next rerun | 14:40 |
| Rhonda | (and I expect to get spammed even more now … | 14:41 |
| Laney | ;-) | 14:41 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: will now try the sphinx patch | 15:32 |
| mitya57 | (though it's a bit strange that the pull request has been deleted) | 15:32 |
| mitya57 | wow, there's a new pull request that attempts to fix japanese LaTeX problems! | 15:33 |
| dholbach | mitya57, yeah, I saw it - we should maybe ping upstream :) | 15:41 |
| dholbach | barry knows upstream IIRC | 15:41 |
| barry | dholbach, mitya57 sphinx upstream? | 15:42 |
| dholbach | yes | 15:42 |
| dholbach | they have a bunch of pull requests which didn't get reviewed :) | 15:42 |
| barry | dholbach: i think georg has just been swamped lately, but i think i've seen some recent activity from him on sphinx | 15:43 |
| dholbach | particularly the i18n stuff would be good to get in | 15:43 |
| mitya57 | I get this trying to build sphinx with that patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1297780/ | 15:46 |
| mitya57 | oops, the same happens without the patch :( | 15:50 |
| mitya57 | ah, that's because I'm using new docutils I built for raring... | 15:51 |
| mitya57 | https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issue/998/docutils-010-will-break-sphinx-manpage | 15:51 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: when I revert last three translation commits and do "make html-es", that succeeds | 16:14 |
| mitya57 | does that mean that the patch works? | 16:15 |
| dholbach | err | 16:15 |
| mitya57 | I thought there was some workaround in the translations... | 16:15 |
| dholbach | I'm not quite sure - are you trying this with the sphinx upstream patch now? | 16:16 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: yes | 16:18 |
| dholbach | and with the the last 3 changes applied it doesn't work? | 16:18 |
| dholbach | is the crash report the same as in the bug? | 16:19 |
| mitya57 | with the last 3 changes applied it should always work (even without the patch), shouldn't it? | 16:20 |
| dholbach | no, it crashes for me | 16:20 |
| mitya57 | will try now | 16:21 |
| dholbach | it seems like the translated href names were a red herring, so not the actual problem :/ | 16:21 |
| mitya57 | succeeds | 16:21 |
| dholbach | NICE | 16:21 |
| mitya57 | As the package now lives in Debian, we'll need jwilk to accept this patch | 16:22 |
| dholbach | do you think you can upload the source package into your PPA maybe? | 16:22 |
| dholbach | sphinx I mean | 16:22 |
| dholbach | then I'll have a look at it, play around with it some more and stick it into our team ppa for the time being (until we can fix it in ubuntu itself) | 16:22 |
| mitya57 | dholbach: but I can, yes | 16:23 |
| dholbach | mitya57, thanks so much for your work on this | 16:23 |
| mitya57 | no, we can't fix it in ubuntu itself: ^^ | 16:23 |
| dholbach | in an SRU then | 16:23 |
| mitya57 | SRU is fine, yes | 16:25 |
| dholbach | perfect | 16:25 |
| bobweaver | Hello there I am trying to make a meta package that installs like a top 20 list of things that I do after installing Ubuntu. but I would like to use debconf to make this happen. like for the meta package "Ubuntu restricted extras" I would like to have a debconf that says "Ubuntu restricted extras installs X,Y&Z . Would you like to install this package. " thus giving the end-user the option to select Yes or No . but I can not figure out | 16:42 |
| bobweaver | how to implant that in debconf. This is how I think that I will do it. set up stanzas for debconf and have then answer store then call them. maybe I should make "debian/ubuntu-restricted-extras.install" and if yes in debconf install. How would you do it? or have any tips ? | 16:42 |
| bobweaver | ^^ in debian policy manner that is ^^ | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | You can't do that in debconf, because apt/dpkg aren't re-entrant - a package can't conditionally install another package in its maintainer scripts. | 16:44 |
| micahg | bobweaver: I think sessioninstaller is closer to what you're looking for | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | You would have to write a script that does the installation, outside of the context of postinst scripts etc. | 16:45 |
| bobweaver | cjwatson, micahg thanks a ton ! cjwatson could script be to launch other app that was installed 1st. er... so like say I am writing app (qml) that is tutorial for new users (like about unity press super for this have super button symbol show up on screen.) could I use something like that but would it have to be in nm PreDepends sorry. I am just trying to make a program (qml) that takes and gives tour of Ubuntu desktop then on tour g | 16:49 |
| bobweaver | ives option to install packages. | 16:49 |
| micahg | bobweaver: sessioninstaller is what you're looking for | 16:50 |
| bobweaver | Oh cool this is dbus reader thanks again micahg | 16:51 |
| cjwatson | But just to re-explain my comments: while your package's postinst script is running, you can't install any other packages. | 16:52 |
| cjwatson | It doesn't matter whether you hide that in some other script. | 16:53 |
| bobweaver | because dpkg is already busy correct ? | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | It would have to be something the user ran separately (and, yes, probably involving sessioninstaller or something like it). | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | Correct. | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | And you don't want to use Pre-Depends. | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | If your program runs outside the context of installing the package containing it, then dpkg won't be busy and you can install stuff. | 16:54 |
| bobweaver | I see cjwatson I am going to read more into sessioninstaller but I think i am going to have to just write something into the app like declarative onfirsttimelaunch.cpp or something like that. Thanks again everybody :) | 16:58 |
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| maveze | Hi, anyone know what can i do with that error: dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0 needed by... (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '')?? | 17:41 |
| jtaylor | is it normal that you get binary-nmu-debian-revision-in-source lintian warning with backport version numbers? | 18:19 |
| jtaylor | binary-nmu-debian-revision-in-source 0.13.1-1~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1 | 18:20 |
| micahg | sounds normal from the description | 18:21 |
| jtaylor | I didn't get it with ~code-name~ppa | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | what is confusing lintian here? | 18:22 |
| micahg | 12.10.1 | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | ah | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | thx | 18:22 |
| jtaylor | never seen a three part binnmu version | 18:22 |
| micahg | it sounds old | 18:23 |
| micahg | "(The +b form is the current standard; the three-part version number now obsolete.)" | 18:23 |
| jtaylor | micahg: has bug 1040756 been overlooked or is it just to invasive? | 18:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1040756 in Precise Backports "Please backport fftw3 3.3.2-3.1ubuntu1 (main) and fftw3-mpi from quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040756 | 18:28 |
| micahg | I didn't see it yet | 18:28 |
| jtaylor | the rdeps are scary, but there was only one issue in 6 month were a package used fftw3 wrong | 18:29 |
| jtaylor | (obscure science package) | 18:29 |
| micahg | jtaylor: none of the rdeps are marked as tested | 18:32 |
| jtaylor | micahg: its impossible to test so much | 18:32 |
| jtaylor | I was thinking that the lack of bugs might be enough :) | 18:33 |
| tumbleweed | you can at least test a reasonable number of them | 18:33 |
| tumbleweed | preferably the high-popcon ones | 18:34 |
| tumbleweed | (but I am not a backporter) :P | 18:34 |
| jtaylor | I would expect high popcon ones to already have noticed something | 18:34 |
| micahg | different versions of the rdeps could also affect things | 18:35 |
| jtaylor | that should be pretty unlikely | 18:38 |
| jtaylor | the library hasn't really changed that much, just got support for new cpu instructions under the hood | 18:39 |
| jtaylor | but I'm fine with waiting a little longer | 18:39 |
| jtaylor | probably avx enabled cpu's are still to rare | 18:39 |
| micahg | jtaylor: I would like to see some build/install/run testing of at least the on-image packages | 18:40 |
| micahg | seems like most of this stuff would affect Ubuntu studio mostly | 18:41 |
| * micahg wonders if reverse-depends could learn about what's on an image | 18:41 | |
| jtaylor | libmagickcore5 looks like a decent candidate | 18:42 |
| jtaylor | lets see what it uses it for | 18:42 |
| micahg | jtaylor: are you coming to UDS? | 18:42 |
| jtaylor | no | 18:42 |
| jtaylor | stupid work always shedules my trips to be at the same time as uds or debconf ... | 18:43 |
| jtaylor | and then the trip gets canceled to late for me to go ._. | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | micahg: that was the point of seeded-in-ubuntu | 18:45 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: that just tells you if it's on an image, not which binaries/sources are reverse dependencies on an image | 18:46 |
| tumbleweed | oh, I seew hat you mean | 18:55 |
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| jtaylor | tumbleweed: you have an avx cpu right? | 18:56 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: yup, my laptop does | 18:57 |
| * tumbleweed probably shouldn't admit that, though | 18:57 | |
| jtaylor | :) | 18:57 |
| tumbleweed | there's useful testing to be done without an AVX CPU, surely | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | fftw has an extensive testsuite and really only does one thing | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | avx is the thing I can't cover :/ | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | but it would be enough if you have the time to just run this: convert -fft /usr/share/doc/texlive-base/pdftex/manual/samplepdf/pic.jpg tmp.jpg | 18:59 |
| jtaylor | or with any jpg | 18:59 |
| jtaylor | but only when you have the time, its really not urgent | 19:00 |
| micahg | jtaylor: what was the outcome of Bug #1069954 | 19:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1069954 in libav (Ubuntu) "Packaging issue : add alternative dependency libavutil-extra-51 to libavutil-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069954 | 19:01 |
| micahg | (not that bug specifically, but the issue as we discussed it before quantal's release) | 19:01 |
| * tumbleweed can probably do that | 19:01 | |
| jtaylor | hm as I understood it wait until main universe distinction is gone | 19:01 |
| jtaylor | I forgot to fix the yorick-av ftbs ._. | 19:02 |
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