=== Digi||Gram is now known as DigiGram [05:27] more more [05:31] morning all of you geeky peeps [05:32] morning Kilos [06:41] morning all [06:41] morning jrgns [06:42] any stories about the Gauteng hail storm to share? [06:43] only a youtube video [06:43] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWzIvuTKmlM [06:43] hi jrgns === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [07:00] Haai [07:00] hey there [07:00] hi SmilyBorg Vince-0 [07:00] Who's amped for a Monday! [07:01] *grumble grumble* [07:01] cant it be Friday already? [07:02] I've got the day off on friday [07:02] hehe [07:03] though I'll still have to be up early [07:03] going to home affairs [07:04] passport? [07:04] or id [07:04] then I can have a nap before getting ready for a party in the afternoon [07:04] amendments to my ID [07:13] morning Kilos, SmilyBorg, Vince-0, jrgns, DigiGram and maiatoday [07:13] morning superfly [07:16] DigiGram: quite hectic! [07:16] haai [07:16] yes was very hectic [07:16] luckily in the Free State it was better [07:19] hi superfly [07:21] hiya superfly maiatoday [07:27] good morning [07:29] morning inetpro [07:29] how much rain and hail? [07:29] Kilos: hi [07:29] Kilos: I'm glad we didn't experience the cricket balls falling from the skies as they did in Jhb on Saturday [07:29] wow [07:29] * inetpro didn't have hail [07:29] just 9mm of rain [07:29] ours were like size of 2 beer bottle caps [07:30] and 20mm rain [07:30] you must see that video of DigiGram above [07:30] not much damage only to fruit trees [07:30] rather say the video I have linked to :) [07:30] really cricket ball size? [07:30] DigiGram: true [07:31] wow [07:31] we had no power for many ours [07:31] hours [07:32] how many meg is that video? [07:33] will have a look Kilos [07:33] ty [07:34] 13.1MB for the 360p download [07:34] btw. Photos of the Durban party from Saturday https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c142k82osntadrdi5nf5bi7mj4g [07:36] can i wget it? [07:36] im scared of youtube [07:37] kilos do you have youtube-dl on your system? [07:37] nope [07:37] I'll try and upload the vid somewhere [07:37] ty [07:38] 12.4MB fine? [07:38] great ty [07:38] hi charl [07:38] vn too [07:38] hi Kilos [07:38] Maaz: coffee on [07:38] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:39] Maaz, coffee please [07:39] Kilos: Yessir [07:39] see me a sir too [07:39] must be if maaz says so [07:40] Kilos, http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/25490645/file.html [07:40] you can download the mp4 from that site [07:40] ty DigiGram [07:40] pleasure [07:42] whow! what a hailstorm! [07:42] Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos! [07:43] Maaz, danke [07:43] Bitteschön [07:44] scary! [07:44] Maaz: thanks [07:44] charlvn: No problem [07:46] hmm one can get a bad headache being outside in that [07:47] ty DigiGram [07:47] Kilos I'm glad that wasn't at my house [07:47] yeah [07:48] idiot box will most likely show some on the news tonight [08:01] i just installed ubuntu 12.10 inside vmware [08:01] i am quite surprised at how fast it is compared to the beta 2 build [08:01] i wonder if they do some optimisation right before the release or if they compile it differently in some way [08:01] i found the beta2 of 12.10 to be significantly slower than 12.04 [08:03] plugin a 3g modem and see if it works [08:04] hopefully they fixed the mobile broadband [08:06] hi all... often in forums and chat rooms ppl write "correct" themselves with ^d^d^d (or not ^d, but ^ somethings) what is the character? and why? [08:06] hi Reenen [08:06] hi Kilos [08:06] why you so scarce here Reenen [08:06] I correct myslef with * [08:06] *myself [08:07] the pro and fly used to use that technical way [08:07] i see what you did there [08:07] with /wrong word/right word/ in [08:08] I haven't used ubuntu in ages [08:08] dunno if it has s in front [08:08] it can't play LoL on it [08:08] :p [08:08] LoL? what is that now again, a name of a game? [08:09] yup, league of legends [08:09] ah, i thought it was "laugh out loud" :) [08:09] oh, that correction [08:09] s/myslef/myself [08:09] it's called sed [08:09] thats it DigiGram [08:10] i don't think I am referring to regex fixing [08:10] it even works in skype [08:10] it's a easter egg :) [08:10] more like VI or VIM type fixing (maybe emacs) [08:10] people who really don't have a life use a correction like that... basically people like us in other words [08:10] most im peeps use *correct word [08:10] yup [08:11] lol the fly will kill you [08:11] hehe [08:11] its the correct way [08:11] Kilos: unfortunately i don't use 3g in NL, it's too expensive and usually has a monthly traffic limit, otherwise i could have tested it for you [08:11] used to mix my brains up a few years ago [08:11] The Right Way (TM) [08:12] oh ya charlvn i forget where you are [08:12] mobile services here are so bad i hardly use a cellphone [08:12] 8ta has brought us into the light with their specials [08:12] not bad, just expensive [08:12] weird how countries differ hey [08:13] at vodafone you literally pay 0,30 cent per minute for calls [08:13] well, I use cellc oob... 15c a mb is not great, but it's not that bad either [08:13] (out of bundle) [08:13] ah [08:13] lemme look up the rate for vodafone quickly [08:13] my vodacom is shoddy at night [08:13] i dunno how to work out the 8ta one [08:14] 3gig for R146 [08:14] nice - € 0,33 per Mb [08:14] add says R149 but they deduct R146 [08:14] according to google that converts to R3,73 [08:14] only 1 gig is inna still hours when i sleep [08:14] b*st*rds are insane [08:15] thats what I liked about my iBurst, 20gb at R198 per month [08:15] 1Mbps [08:19] I haven't heard anything good about iburst in ages [08:20] well, where I lived it was GREAT [08:21] not gaming speeds, and very slow for downloads, but it was good for browsing etc [08:21] to bad they don't have coverage where I live now [08:25] I don't quite understand how their infrastructure works... I thought they just hired stuff from vodacom? [08:26] they operate at a differant frequency from their own nodes [08:26] not sure about the backbone though, that might be outsourced [09:59] o/ [10:07] hi not_found [10:07] got a link for you [10:07] Hi uncle Kilos [10:07] ok [10:08] SmilyBorg> btw. Photos of the Durban party from Saturday https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c142k82osntadrdi5nf5bi7mj4g [10:09] i lost the monkeys one. will try find [10:09] ah ok... thanks [10:14] is that the kinda stuff you want for reports not_found ? [10:15] yes thanks... then I can just add a link to the team report [10:15] I saw a blog post by maia too... think it was also about durban [10:17] ah thats good. i think it must be on kde here. will look when i boot into it again [10:21] sup :) [11:42] we got power off from 8am till 4pm tomorrow [11:42] oooh hood luck [11:42] yp Symmetria wassup [11:43] hood luck be right [11:44] brb gonna boot from kde [11:47] SmilyBorg: nice job! Looks like you guys had a lot of fun [11:48] and even nuvolari was there as well? [11:49] wb KilosK [11:49] ty inetpro [11:50] im looking for the link the monkey gave for photos yesterday [11:50] KilosK: what photos? [11:50] maybe i was on maverick [11:50] oh the UH they had or something [11:51] last saterdays do methinks [11:51] hmm... I didn't see that [11:51] inetpro, that window on kde with all saved files etc is gone [11:51] what now [11:52] saved file? [11:52] all my commands for iptables are there [11:52] saved files? [11:52] grrr [11:52] kde opens a small window top left of desktop with them things in [11:52] normally a desktop [11:53] hmm... maybe you just moved to another activity [11:53] it normally shows [11:53] click the icon with the 3 colored dots [11:53] i dunno what it is called even [11:55] three dots are red, blue and green = activities [11:56] then switch to a different activity [11:57] KilosK: anyway it sounds like the file you are talking about should simply be in the Desktop folder, that is '~/Desktop/' [11:57] they gone. desktop icons i think it be called [11:58] if you go to Dolphin the file manager you should just be able to see the files inside the Desktop folder [11:59] o wow [11:59] now they show on desktop like other os [11:59] that small window be gone [12:00] KilosK: by default there's just a simple folder view widget which displays the contents of the Desktop folder [12:00] so if the widget is gone doesn't mean the files are gone [12:01] no the files are all showing like on other operating systems [12:01] but the widget typically just displays in the default activity [12:01] i went the three dots and said run desktop icons [12:02] anyway i see the files, ty inetpro [12:02] wb maiatoday [12:02] inetpro: thanks. it was fun, even though the power went out about a dozen times [12:03] trouble is that my laptop battery has given up the ghost so my machine kept rebooting [12:03] thanks inetpro, just messing with my quantal install trying to get the integrated webapps to work [12:04] * inetpro just missed a photo of SmilyBorg [12:04] there are 2 photos of me there. though they kinda suck [12:05] lol how you just missed it? [12:05] hmm... I shall have a look again [12:06] it's a pity that more people didnt take photos [12:07] but the G+ party mode was really useful for getting photos automatically uploaded to the event page. [12:09] ahh, now I noticed [12:10] hmm iptables make me mal [12:11] can ping 8.8.8.8 from pc2 and pidgin connects but xchat wont [12:11] SmilyBorg: so who's the McGyver guy next to you? [12:12] Michael Graaf [12:13] he was using my knife to flick some little switch in the back of is vodafone netbook in an atempt to get a bootloader [12:13] they were trying to see if there was a way to update the ubuntu that is on it [12:14] come on goosie how come pc1 isnt allowing irc to connect [12:14] xchat and quassel [12:15] i can ping 8.8.8.8 and pidgin connexts [12:15] grrr [12:15] KilosK: ai [12:15] the but that stole that desktop icons windows stole irc's permissions too === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [12:15] s/but/bug [12:15] SmilyBorg: and did you get it right? [12:16] I don't think so. Michael and Wesley were working on it. I was busy with other things [12:16] ok [12:16] sounds like support for the device has been dropped [12:17] strange that it is locked down like that [12:17] its an arm7 processor though so it should be doable [12:18] hi psydroid [12:19] hi KilosK [12:33] brb [12:37] not_found, https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c142k82osntadrdi5nf5bi7mj4g [12:39] Kilos: did you use "sudo route..." ? [12:39] actually, I presume you would have [12:44] thx unlce Kilos ... that is the same link as the one you gave me earlier [12:44] route -n [12:45] sorry not_found [12:45] SmilyBorg, and kbmonkey gave same links then [12:45] blame then [12:45] kbmonkey ? [12:45] Wesley? [12:45] oh sudo route add superfly ? [12:46] ya weeny [12:46] Kilos: nevermind [12:48] yp i used same three commands that worked yesterday === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [12:52] * Kilos experimenting too today [12:53] trying to make kaaings inna micro [12:58] dunno how many of you modern peeps know what kaains are [12:59] nah, to fatty for me Kilos [12:59] no man you cook all the fat out [12:59] very lekker on pap [13:00] or on armies [13:00] sarmies as well [13:06] DigiGram, you not an O blood group hey? [13:06] O- why? [13:07] normally O are the meat eaters [13:07] protein peeps [13:07] not many dont like fatty foods [13:08] yeah I know, but I don't like oily and fatty foods lol [13:08] herro, has anybody tried Gnome ubuntu 12.10? [13:08] dammit [13:08] I wanted to buy 2 new tyres for my car [13:09] but I cant find stock anywhere in the country of the tyres I need :( [13:09] which means I may now have to replace all 4 [13:09] eish that sucks [13:09] put 2 new ones on back wheels [13:09] no matter if they different make to front ones [13:10] always put best tires at the back [13:10] heh, kilos may have to do that, I refer to run same brand front/back but I may have to go seperate brands front/back [13:10] kilos heh, back tyres are fine, I gotta replace the fronts [13:10] and cant rotate, car uses different size tyres front/back [13:10] put back tires on front and new ones on back [13:10] cant do that :) [13:10] oh my [13:11] its either replace the fronts and run different front/back or replace all 4 [13:11] wider at the back? [13:11] :P and at the cost of these tyres, replacing all 4, like, no :p [13:11] 255/40/R18s on the front, 225/35/R18s on the back [13:11] narrower at the back? [13:11] thats weird [13:11] heh, front tyres cheapest I can get in the country are pirellis right now, at R4200 a tyre [13:12] eina [13:12] back tyres, cheapest is also pirelli, and those cost R5500 a tyre :p === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [13:12] so if I replace the whole lot, Im looking at almost 20 grand [13:12] lol, still a lot cheaper than going michelin :p [13:13] ouch === DigiGram is now known as Digi||Gram === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:04] * nuvolari peeks in [17:05] o/ [17:05] * Kilos waves to nuvolari [17:05] hi oom Kilos :) [17:05] gaan dit goed oom? [17:05] ja danke seun en met jou? [17:06] ek leef oom! dis goed so :> Het niks om oor te kla nie [17:06] mooi [17:06] magespawn: ping [17:07] a hangout at an ubuntu hour is a good plan, but the interwebs are very bad where we meet [17:08] Kilos: gaan oom na 'n release party toe? [17:08] nee seun [17:08] ag jinne, ek't die naweek die 32-bit repo's gecopy in plaas van die 64-bit [17:08] te veel werk eintlik al kon ek [17:08] nou sit ek met 50-something gig wat ek nie gaan gebruik nie [17:08] eina [17:09] daar sal iemand wees wat 32bit nodig het [17:09] as jy nie die spasier nodig het nie [17:09] spasie [17:11] evening [17:11] hi Squirm [17:11] * Squirm spied nuvolari at the party [17:11] good [17:11] and weeny? [17:11] I'd have liked to go :/ [17:11] aw you didnt go [17:12] how did you spy him then [17:12] howdy Squirmish [17:12] how are you? [17:12] I saw a pic or 2 on G+ [17:12] ah [17:12] I'm wondering the same thing oom Kilos :P [17:12] lol [17:12] nuvolari: damn tired. lightning hit the school on Saturday night and took out a lot of stuff [17:13] :( [17:13] that's bad [17:13] so today was busy [17:13] that sucks :-/ [17:13] Kerbero: thankfully we have fibre between different section. still took out a few switches, our router, and a few video splitters [17:13] along with a little bit of wall [17:14] lol wow [17:14] * Kilos goes for supper [17:14] rich school if you have fiber [17:14] it helps in situations like these [17:14] and we're by no way have the most expensive school fees [17:14] lekker eet oom Kilos [17:15] s/we're/we [17:16] Kerbero: fiber isn't that expensive [17:17] been thinking that same now yes [17:17] on Wednesday we paid R12pm for 12core [17:17] but the thing is you need switches that support it [17:18] and they are expensive [17:18] find 100M media converters [17:18] but not really anymore [17:18] o [17:18] it's not a switch, all it does is convert fiber to ethernet [17:18] and you buy the fiber in the correct lengths? [17:18] Kerbero: we buy them with the connectors spliced [17:19] so yeah, as close as we can get [17:19] those yellow ones? [17:19] yellow? [17:19] yellow fiber [17:19] they use to path datacentres with [17:20] yellow plastice covering on the outside [17:20] we buy a fair ammount of ruggedised fiber, cause we use it in pretty much all outdoor situations [17:20] but ok, that is likely a no then [17:20] ok [17:20] that's just black [17:20] we do have orange fiber path cords [17:20] they have no protection [17:21] s/path/patch [17:26] Kerbero: this is what we get from our supplier [17:26] http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/product_info.php?cPath=100_175&products_id=3746 [17:27] so using them as a supplier, R500*2 but lets say R10pm [17:27] for 2 core [17:27] probably less [17:27] I don't know what our supplier charges for media converters [17:27] o [17:28] not bad [17:30] and for R32 more you get a gigabit one [17:32] but then one still needs the mini-gbic modules [17:32] i see [17:32] yes [17:32] those I think are a bit costly === Cantide is now known as Frankencleshihi [17:32] meh [17:32] i have seen ones for R200-300 [17:32] another R550 === Frankencleshihi is now known as Cantide [17:32] TrendNet TE100-MGBFX Mini-GBIC Multi-Mode LC Module [17:32] R557.00 [17:33] ok [17:33] good ones yes [17:33] this is actually a good sollution when doing wifi installations with AP's far apart [17:33] we have 3 switches whith the gbic modules. so fiber goes directly into the switch. but they are our 3 core switches [17:34] Kerbero: bonus: lightning doesn't travel through glass [17:34] jip [17:34] so we string our fiber above ground [17:34] well, where we can [17:34] over roads,etc [17:34] our grounds are very spread out [17:34] interesting school [17:35] Kerbero: where do you live? [17:35] stellenbosch [17:35] ah [17:35] little far [17:36] -29.199487,30.007233 [17:36] o0 [17:36] it's everything to the right of the R103 and North of the golf course [17:36] weird localtion [17:36] hmm [17:36] and some a little to the west [17:36] little north and a lot east fdrom here [17:37] that is a pretty river :P [17:37] it's horrid [17:37]