[05:27] <DigiGram> more more
[05:31] <Kilos> morning all of you geeky peeps
[05:32] <DigiGram> morning Kilos 
[06:41] <jrgns> morning all
[06:41] <DigiGram> morning jrgns 
[06:42] <jrgns> any stories about the Gauteng hail storm to share?
[06:43] <DigiGram> only a youtube video
[06:43] <DigiGram> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWzIvuTKmlM
[06:43] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:00] <Vince-0> Haai
[07:00] <SmilyBorg> hey there
[07:00] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg Vince-0 
[07:00] <Vince-0> Who's amped for a Monday!
[07:01] <SmilyBorg> *grumble grumble*
[07:01] <SmilyBorg> cant it be Friday already?
[07:02] <SmilyBorg> I've got the day off on friday
[07:02] <Kilos> hehe
[07:03] <SmilyBorg> though I'll still have to be up early
[07:03] <SmilyBorg> going to home affairs
[07:04] <Kilos> passport?
[07:04] <Kilos> or id
[07:04] <SmilyBorg> then I can have a nap before getting ready for a party in the afternoon
[07:04] <SmilyBorg> amendments to my ID
[07:13] <superfly> morning Kilos, SmilyBorg, Vince-0, jrgns, DigiGram and maiatoday
[07:13] <DigiGram> morning superfly 
[07:16] <jrgns> DigiGram: quite hectic!
[07:16] <Vince-0> haai
[07:16] <DigiGram> yes was very hectic
[07:16] <DigiGram> luckily in the Free State it was better
[07:19] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[07:21] <Kilos> hiya superfly maiatoday 
[07:27] <inetpro> good morning
[07:29] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[07:29] <Kilos> how much rain and hail?
[07:29] <inetpro> Kilos: hi
[07:29] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm glad we didn't experience the cricket balls falling from the skies as they did in Jhb on Saturday
[07:29] <Kilos> wow
[07:29]  * inetpro didn't have hail
[07:29] <inetpro> just 9mm of rain
[07:29] <Kilos> ours were like size of 2 beer bottle caps
[07:30] <Kilos> and 20mm rain
[07:30] <inetpro> you must see that video of DigiGram above
[07:30] <Kilos> not much damage only to fruit trees
[07:30] <DigiGram> rather say the video I have linked to :)
[07:30] <Kilos> really cricket ball size?
[07:30] <inetpro> DigiGram: true
[07:31] <Kilos> wow
[07:31] <Kilos> we had no power for many ours
[07:31] <Kilos> hours
[07:32] <Kilos> how many meg is that video?
[07:33] <DigiGram> will have a look Kilos 
[07:33] <Kilos> ty
[07:34] <DigiGram> 13.1MB for the 360p download
[07:34] <SmilyBorg> btw. Photos of the Durban party from Saturday https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c142k82osntadrdi5nf5bi7mj4g
[07:36] <Kilos> can i wget it?
[07:36] <Kilos> im scared of youtube
[07:37] <DigiGram> kilos do you have youtube-dl on your system?
[07:37] <Kilos> nope
[07:37] <DigiGram> I'll try and upload the vid somewhere
[07:37] <Kilos> ty
[07:38] <DigiGram> 12.4MB fine?
[07:38] <Kilos> great ty
[07:38] <Kilos> hi charl
[07:38] <Kilos> vn too
[07:38] <charlvn> hi Kilos 
[07:38] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[07:38]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:39] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:39] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[07:39] <Kilos> see me a sir too
[07:39] <Kilos> must be if maaz says so
[07:40] <DigiGram> Kilos, http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/25490645/file.html
[07:40] <DigiGram> you can download the mp4 from that site
[07:40] <Kilos> ty DigiGram 
[07:40] <DigiGram> pleasure
[07:42] <charlvn> whow! what a hailstorm!
[07:42] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos!
[07:43] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[07:43] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[07:44] <charlvn> scary!
[07:44] <charlvn> Maaz: thanks
[07:44] <Maaz> charlvn: No problem
[07:46] <Kilos> hmm one can get a bad headache being outside in that
[07:47] <Kilos> ty DigiGram 
[07:47] <DigiGram> Kilos I'm glad that wasn't at my house
[07:47] <Kilos> yeah
[07:48] <Kilos> idiot box will most likely show some on the news tonight
[08:01] <charlvn> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 inside vmware
[08:01] <charlvn> i am quite surprised at how fast it is compared to the beta 2 build
[08:01] <charlvn> i wonder if they do some optimisation right before the release or if they compile it differently in some way
[08:01] <charlvn> i found the beta2 of 12.10 to be significantly slower than 12.04
[08:03] <Kilos> plugin a 3g modem and see if it works
[08:04] <Kilos> hopefully they fixed the mobile broadband
[08:06] <Reenen> hi all... often in forums and chat rooms ppl write "correct" themselves with ^d^d^d  (or not ^d, but ^ somethings)  what is the character?  and why?
[08:06] <Kilos> hi Reenen 
[08:06] <Reenen> hi Kilos 
[08:06] <Kilos> why you so scarce here Reenen 
[08:06] <DigiGram> I correct myslef with *
[08:06] <DigiGram> *myself
[08:07] <Kilos> the pro and fly used to use that technical way
[08:07] <tonberry352_> i see what you did there
[08:07] <Kilos> with /wrong word/right word/ in
[08:08] <Reenen> I haven't used ubuntu in ages
[08:08] <Kilos> dunno if it has s in front
[08:08] <Reenen> it can't play LoL on it
[08:08] <Reenen> :p
[08:08] <charlvn> LoL? what is that now again, a name of a game?
[08:09] <Reenen> yup, league of legends
[08:09] <charlvn> ah, i thought it was "laugh out loud" :)
[08:09] <DigiGram> oh, that correction
[08:09] <DigiGram> s/myslef/myself
[08:09] <DigiGram> it's called sed
[08:09] <Kilos> thats it DigiGram 
[08:10] <Reenen> i don't think I am referring to regex fixing
[08:10] <charlvn> it even works in skype
[08:10] <charlvn> it's a easter egg :)
[08:10] <Reenen> more like VI or VIM type fixing (maybe emacs)
[08:10] <charlvn> people who really don't have a life use a correction like that... basically people like us in other words
[08:10] <Kilos> most im peeps use *correct word
[08:10] <Reenen> yup
[08:11] <Kilos> lol the fly will kill you
[08:11] <Kilos> hehe
[08:11] <Kilos> its the correct way
[08:11] <charlvn> Kilos: unfortunately i don't use 3g in NL, it's too expensive and usually has a monthly traffic limit, otherwise i could have tested it for you
[08:11] <Kilos> used to mix my brains up a few years ago
[08:11] <charlvn> The Right Way (TM)
[08:12] <Kilos> oh ya charlvn i forget where you are
[08:12] <charlvn> mobile services here are so bad i hardly use a cellphone
[08:12] <Kilos> 8ta has brought us into the light with their specials
[08:12] <charlvn> not bad, just expensive
[08:12] <Kilos> weird how countries differ hey
[08:13] <charlvn> at vodafone you literally pay 0,30 cent per minute for calls
[08:13] <Reenen> well, I use cellc oob... 15c a mb is not great, but it's not that bad either
[08:13] <Reenen> (out of bundle)
[08:13] <Kilos> ah
[08:13] <charlvn> lemme look up the rate for vodafone quickly
[08:13] <Reenen> my vodacom is shoddy at night
[08:13] <Kilos> i dunno how to work out the 8ta one
[08:14] <Kilos> 3gig for R146
[08:14] <charlvn> nice - € 0,33 per Mb
[08:14] <Kilos> add says R149 but they deduct R146
[08:14] <charlvn> according to google that converts to R3,73
[08:14] <Kilos> only 1 gig is inna still hours when i sleep
[08:14] <charlvn> b*st*rds are insane
[08:15] <DigiGram> thats what I liked about my iBurst, 20gb at R198 per month
[08:15] <DigiGram> 1Mbps
[08:19] <Reenen> I haven't heard anything good about iburst in ages
[08:20] <DigiGram> well, where I lived it was GREAT
[08:21] <DigiGram> not gaming speeds, and very slow for downloads, but it was good for browsing etc
[08:21] <DigiGram> to bad they don't have coverage where I live now
[08:25] <Reenen> I don't quite understand how their infrastructure works... I thought they just hired stuff from vodacom?
[08:26] <DigiGram> they operate at a differant frequency from their own nodes
[08:26] <DigiGram> not sure about the backbone though, that might be outsourced
[09:59] <not_found> o/
[10:07] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[10:07] <Kilos> got a link for you
[10:07] <not_found> Hi uncle Kilos 
[10:07] <not_found> ok
[10:08] <Kilos> SmilyBorg> btw. Photos of the Durban party from Saturday https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c142k82osntadrdi5nf5bi7mj4g
[10:09] <Kilos> i lost the monkeys one. will try find
[10:09] <not_found> ah ok... thanks
[10:14] <Kilos> is that the kinda stuff you want for reports not_found ?
[10:15] <not_found> yes thanks... then I can just add a link to the team report
[10:15] <not_found> I saw a blog post by maia too... think it was also about durban
[10:17] <Kilos> ah thats good. i think it must be on kde here. will look when i boot into it again
[10:21] <Symmetria> sup :)
[11:42] <Kilos> we got power off from 8am till 4pm tomorrow
[11:42] <DigiGram> oooh hood luck
[11:42] <Kilos> yp Symmetria wassup
[11:43] <Kilos> hood luck be right
[11:44] <Kilos> brb gonna boot from kde
[11:47] <inetpro> SmilyBorg: nice job! Looks like you guys had a lot of fun
[11:48] <inetpro> and even nuvolari was there as well?
[11:49] <inetpro> wb KilosK
[11:49] <KilosK> ty inetpro 
[11:50] <KilosK> im looking for the link the monkey gave for photos yesterday
[11:50] <inetpro> KilosK: what photos?
[11:50] <KilosK> maybe i was on maverick
[11:50] <KilosK> oh the UH they had or something
[11:51] <KilosK> last saterdays do methinks
[11:51] <inetpro> hmm... I didn't see that
[11:51] <KilosK> inetpro, that window on kde with all saved files etc is gone
[11:51] <KilosK> what now
[11:52] <inetpro> saved file?
[11:52] <KilosK> all my commands for iptables are there
[11:52] <inetpro> saved files?
[11:52] <KilosK> grrr
[11:52] <KilosK> kde opens a small window top left of desktop with them things in
[11:52] <KilosK> normally a desktop
[11:53] <inetpro> hmm... maybe you just moved to another activity
[11:53] <KilosK> it normally shows 
[11:53] <inetpro> click the icon with the 3 colored dots
[11:53] <KilosK> i dunno what it is called even
[11:55] <inetpro> three dots are red, blue and green =  activities
[11:56] <inetpro> then switch to a different activity
[11:57] <inetpro> KilosK: anyway it sounds like the file you are talking about should simply be in the Desktop folder, that is '~/Desktop/'
[11:57] <KilosK> they gone. desktop icons i think it be called
[11:58] <inetpro> if you go to Dolphin the file manager you should just be able to see the files inside the Desktop folder
[11:59] <KilosK> o wow
[11:59] <KilosK> now they show on desktop like other os
[11:59] <KilosK> that small window be gone
[12:00] <inetpro> KilosK: by default there's just a simple folder view widget which displays the contents of the Desktop folder
[12:00] <inetpro> so if the widget is gone doesn't mean the files are gone
[12:01] <KilosK> no the files are all showing like on other operating systems
[12:01] <inetpro> but the widget typically just displays in the default activity
[12:01] <KilosK> i went the three dots and said run desktop icons
[12:02] <KilosK> anyway i see the files, ty inetpro 
[12:02] <inetpro> wb maiatoday
[12:02] <SmilyBorg>  inetpro: thanks. it was fun, even though the power went out about a dozen times
[12:03] <SmilyBorg> trouble is that my laptop battery has given up the ghost so my machine kept rebooting
[12:03] <maiatoday> thanks inetpro, just messing with my quantal install trying to get the integrated webapps to work
[12:04]  * inetpro just missed a photo of SmilyBorg
[12:04] <SmilyBorg> there are 2 photos of me there. though they kinda suck
[12:05] <KilosK> lol how you just missed it?
[12:05] <inetpro> hmm... I shall have a look again
[12:06] <SmilyBorg> it's a pity that more people didnt take photos
[12:07] <SmilyBorg> but the G+ party mode was really useful for getting photos automatically uploaded to the event page.
[12:09] <inetpro> ahh, now I noticed
[12:10] <KilosK> hmm iptables make me mal
[12:11] <KilosK> can ping 8.8.8.8 from pc2 and pidgin connects but xchat wont
[12:11] <inetpro> SmilyBorg: so who's the McGyver guy next to you?
[12:12] <SmilyBorg> Michael Graaf
[12:13] <SmilyBorg> he was using my knife to flick some little switch in the back of is vodafone netbook in an atempt to get a bootloader
[12:13] <SmilyBorg> they were trying to see if there was a way to update the ubuntu that is on it
[12:14] <KilosK> come on goosie how come pc1 isnt allowing irc to connect
[12:14] <KilosK> xchat and quassel
[12:15] <KilosK> i can ping 8.8.8.8 and pidgin connexts
[12:15] <KilosK> grrr
[12:15] <inetpro> KilosK: ai
[12:15] <KilosK> the but that stole that desktop icons windows stole irc's permissions too
[12:15] <KilosK> s/but/bug
[12:15] <inetpro> SmilyBorg: and did you get it right?
[12:16] <SmilyBorg> I don't think so. Michael and Wesley were working on it. I was busy with other things
[12:16] <inetpro> ok
[12:16] <SmilyBorg> sounds like support for the device has been dropped
[12:17] <inetpro> strange that it is locked down like that
[12:17] <SmilyBorg> its an arm7 processor though so it should be doable
[12:18] <KilosK> hi psydroid 
[12:19] <psydroid> hi KilosK
[12:33] <KilosK> brb
[12:37] <Kilos> not_found,  https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c142k82osntadrdi5nf5bi7mj4g
[12:39] <superfly> Kilos: did you use "sudo route..." ?
[12:39] <superfly> actually, I presume you would have
[12:44] <not_found> thx unlce Kilos ... that is the same link as the one you gave me earlier
[12:44] <Kilos> route -n
[12:45] <Kilos> sorry not_found 
[12:45] <Kilos> SmilyBorg, and kbmonkey gave same links then
[12:45] <Kilos> blame then
[12:45] <SmilyBorg> kbmonkey ?
[12:45] <SmilyBorg> Wesley?
[12:45] <Kilos> oh sudo route add superfly ?
[12:46] <Kilos> ya weeny
[12:46] <superfly> Kilos: nevermind
[12:48] <Kilos> yp i used same three commands that worked yesterday
[12:52]  * Kilos experimenting too today
[12:53] <Kilos> trying to make kaaings inna micro
[12:58] <Kilos> dunno how many of you modern peeps know what kaains are
[12:59] <DigiGram> nah, to fatty for me Kilos 
[12:59] <Kilos> no man you cook all the fat out
[12:59] <Kilos> very lekker on pap
[13:00] <Kilos> or on armies
[13:00] <Kilos> sarmies as well
[13:06] <Kilos> DigiGram, you not an O blood group hey?
[13:06] <DigiGram> O- why?
[13:07] <Kilos> normally O are the meat eaters
[13:07] <Kilos> protein peeps
[13:07] <Kilos> not many dont like fatty foods
[13:08] <DigiGram> yeah I know, but I don't like oily and fatty foods lol
[13:08] <zeref> herro, has anybody tried Gnome ubuntu 12.10?
[13:08] <Symmetria> dammit
[13:08] <Symmetria> I wanted to buy 2 new tyres for my car
[13:09] <Symmetria> but I cant find stock anywhere in the country of the tyres I need :(
[13:09] <Symmetria> which means I may now have to replace all 4
[13:09] <Kilos> eish that sucks
[13:09] <Kilos> put 2 new ones on back wheels
[13:09] <Kilos> no matter if they different make to front ones
[13:10] <Kilos> always put best tires at the back
[13:10] <Symmetria> heh, kilos may have to do that, I refer to run same brand front/back but I may have to go seperate brands front/back
[13:10] <Symmetria> kilos heh, back tyres are fine, I gotta replace the fronts 
[13:10] <Symmetria> and cant rotate, car uses different size tyres front/back
[13:10] <Kilos> put back tires on front and new ones on back
[13:10] <Symmetria> cant do that :)
[13:10] <Kilos> oh my
[13:11] <Symmetria> its either replace the fronts and run different front/back or replace all 4 
[13:11] <Kilos> wider at the back?
[13:11] <Symmetria> :P and at the cost of these tyres, replacing all 4, like, no :p
[13:11] <Symmetria> 255/40/R18s on the front, 225/35/R18s on the back 
[13:11] <Kilos> narrower at the back?
[13:11] <Kilos> thats weird
[13:11] <Symmetria> heh, front tyres cheapest I can get in the country are pirellis right now, at R4200 a tyre
[13:12] <Kilos> eina
[13:12] <Symmetria> back tyres, cheapest is also pirelli, and those cost R5500 a tyre :p
[13:12] <Symmetria> so if I replace the whole lot, Im looking at almost 20 grand
[13:12] <Symmetria> lol, still a lot cheaper than going michelin :p
[13:13] <Kilos> ouch
[17:04]  * nuvolari peeks in
[17:05] <nuvolari> o/
[17:05]  * Kilos waves to nuvolari 
[17:05] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :)
[17:05] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom?
[17:05] <Kilos> ja danke seun en met jou?
[17:06] <nuvolari> ek leef oom! dis goed so :> Het niks om oor te kla nie
[17:06] <Kilos> mooi
[17:06] <nuvolari> magespawn: ping
[17:07] <nuvolari> a hangout at an ubuntu hour is a good plan, but the interwebs are very bad where we meet
[17:08] <nuvolari> Kilos: gaan oom na 'n release party toe?
[17:08] <Kilos> nee seun
[17:08] <nuvolari> ag jinne, ek't die naweek die 32-bit repo's gecopy in plaas van die 64-bit 
[17:08] <Kilos> te veel  werk eintlik al kon ek
[17:08] <nuvolari> nou sit ek met 50-something gig wat ek nie gaan gebruik nie
[17:08] <Kilos> eina
[17:09] <Kilos> daar sal iemand wees wat 32bit nodig het
[17:09] <Kilos> as jy nie die spasier nodig het nie
[17:09] <Kilos> spasie
[17:11] <Squirm> evening
[17:11] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[17:11]  * Squirm spied nuvolari at the party
[17:11] <Kilos> good
[17:11] <Kilos> and weeny?
[17:11] <Squirm> I'd have liked to go :/
[17:11] <Kilos> aw you didnt go
[17:12] <Kilos> how did you spy him then
[17:12] <nuvolari> howdy Squirmish
[17:12] <nuvolari> how are you?
[17:12] <Squirm> I saw a pic or 2 on G+
[17:12] <Kilos> ah
[17:12] <nuvolari> I'm wondering the same thing oom Kilos :P
[17:12] <Kilos> lol
[17:12] <Squirm> nuvolari: damn tired. lightning hit the school on Saturday night and took out a lot of stuff
[17:13] <Kerbero> :(
[17:13] <Kerbero> that's bad
[17:13] <Squirm> so today was busy 
[17:13] <nuvolari> that sucks :-/
[17:13] <Squirm> Kerbero: thankfully we have fibre between different section. still took out a few switches, our router, and a few video splitters
[17:13] <Squirm> along with a little bit of wall
[17:14] <Kerbero> lol wow
[17:14]  * Kilos goes for supper
[17:14] <Kerbero> rich school if you have fiber
[17:14] <Squirm> it helps in situations like these
[17:14] <Squirm> and we're by no way have the most expensive school fees
[17:14] <nuvolari> lekker eet oom Kilos 
[17:15] <Squirm> s/we're/we
[17:16] <Squirm> Kerbero: fiber isn't that expensive
[17:17] <Kerbero> been thinking that same now yes
[17:17] <Squirm> on Wednesday we paid R12pm for 12core
[17:17] <Kerbero> but the thing is you need switches that support it
[17:18] <Kerbero> and they are expensive
[17:18] <Squirm> find 100M media converters
[17:18] <Kerbero> but not really anymore
[17:18] <Kerbero> o
[17:18] <Squirm> it's not a switch, all it does is convert fiber to ethernet
[17:18] <Kerbero> and you buy the fiber in the correct lengths?
[17:18] <Squirm> Kerbero: we buy them with the connectors spliced
[17:19] <Squirm> so yeah, as close as we can get
[17:19] <Kerbero> those yellow ones?
[17:19] <Squirm> yellow?
[17:19] <Kerbero> yellow fiber
[17:19] <Kerbero> they use to path datacentres with
[17:20] <Kerbero> yellow plastice covering on the outside
[17:20] <Squirm> we buy a fair ammount of ruggedised fiber, cause we use it in pretty much all outdoor situations
[17:20] <Kerbero> but ok, that is likely a no then
[17:20] <Kerbero> ok
[17:20] <Squirm> that's just black
[17:20] <Squirm> we do have orange fiber path cords
[17:20] <Squirm> they have no protection
[17:21] <Squirm> s/path/patch
[17:26] <Squirm> Kerbero: this is what we get from our supplier
[17:26] <Squirm> http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/product_info.php?cPath=100_175&products_id=3746
[17:27] <Squirm> so using them as a supplier, R500*2 but lets say R10pm
[17:27] <Squirm> for 2 core
[17:27] <Squirm> probably less
[17:27] <Squirm> I don't know what our supplier charges for media converters
[17:27] <Kerbero> o
[17:28] <Kerbero> not bad
[17:30] <Kerbero> and for R32 more you get a gigabit one
[17:32] <Kerbero> but then one still needs the mini-gbic modules
[17:32] <Kerbero> i see
[17:32] <Squirm> yes
[17:32] <Squirm> those I think are a bit costly
[17:32] <Squirm> meh
[17:32] <Kerbero> i have seen ones for R200-300
[17:32] <Squirm> another R550
[17:32] <Squirm> TrendNet TE100-MGBFX Mini-GBIC Multi-Mode LC Module
[17:32] <Squirm>  R557.00 
[17:33] <Squirm> ok
[17:33] <Kerbero> good ones yes
[17:33] <Kerbero> this is actually a good sollution when doing wifi installations with AP's far apart
[17:33] <Squirm> we have 3 switches whith the gbic modules. so fiber goes directly into the switch. but they are our 3 core switches
[17:34] <Squirm> Kerbero: bonus: lightning doesn't travel through glass
[17:34] <Kerbero> jip
[17:34] <Squirm> so we string our fiber above ground
[17:34] <Squirm> well, where we can
[17:34] <Squirm> over roads,etc
[17:34] <Squirm> our grounds are very spread out
[17:34] <Kerbero> interesting school
[17:35] <Squirm> Kerbero: where do you live?
[17:35] <Kerbero> stellenbosch
[17:35] <Squirm> ah
[17:35] <Squirm> little far
[17:36] <Squirm> -29.199487,30.007233
[17:36] <Kerbero> o0
[17:36] <Squirm> it's everything to the right of the R103 and North of the golf course
[17:36] <Kerbero> weird localtion
[17:36] <Kerbero> hmm
[17:36] <Squirm> and some a little to the west
[17:36] <Kerbero> little north and a lot east fdrom here
[17:37] <Kerbero> that is a pretty river :P
[17:37] <Squirm> it's horrid
[17:37] <Squirm> well, dirty
[17:37] <Kerbero> agricultural school?
[17:37] <Squirm> no
[17:37] <Kerbero> but i see what you mean by spread out
[17:37] <Squirm> we do have a fairly large wild life area
[17:38] <Squirm> with zebra, blesbok
[17:38] <Squirm> nicely ourdoor orientated
[17:38] <Squirm> outdoor
[17:38] <Squirm> chat a bit later. squash time
[17:39] <Kerbero> cheers
[17:42] <Kilos> lo hubx 
[17:42] <hubx> Hi Kilos 
[17:43] <kbmonkey> ke ke ke
[17:44] <Kilos> hi the monkey
[17:44] <Kilos> you under arm scratching again
[17:45] <kbmonkey> wiff a banana
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe
[17:46] <kbmonkey> from yesterday i could not ssh, could not get to irc
[17:46] <kbmonkey> i think 8ta is blocking it
[17:46] <superfly> hiya kbmonkey
[17:46] <kbmonkey> but it worked the first few days. confused.
[17:46] <kbmonkey> hello superfly 
[17:47] <superfly> wow, I hope Windows 8 isn't going to take as long to install as it is taking to download -_-
[17:47] <Kilos> lol
[17:47] <Kilos> winsucks installs very slowly
[17:47] <kbmonkey> It counts in windows minutes ;)
[17:47] <superfly> Kilos: so far it has taken almost 24 hours to download
[17:48] <Kilos> oh my so its bigger than win7
[17:48] <kbmonkey> temporal relativity, time slows down the more you want it to speed up
[17:48] <superfly> and it's ISO size is almost half the size of Windows 7's, interestingly enough
[17:48] <Kilos> 3.3gig
[17:48] <Kilos> oh my
[17:48] <Kilos> is your connection sick superfly 
[17:49]  * superfly is going to give Metro, I mean, the Windows 8 Experience (or whatever they want to call it) a try in a VM
[17:49] <superfly> Kilos: nope, everything else is wooshing nicely
[17:49] <Kilos> wow
[17:49] <Kilos> how do you get win8 isnt it a pay before you use thing?
[17:50] <Kilos> i tried win7 sucks worse than xp
[17:50] <Kilos> to much security functions to get things going
[17:50] <superfly> Kilos: just like Windows 7, they have a "preview release" which will work until sometime in January next year
[17:50] <Kilos> ah
[17:51] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you can get a 1 year trial if you sign off your first born
[17:51] <Kilos> ha ha ha rofl
[17:51] <kbmonkey> he he :)
[17:51] <Kilos> would even give a new born lamb
[17:51] <Kilos> wouldnt
[17:51] <kbmonkey> shame poor lammetjie
[17:52] <kbmonkey> at least you did not say new born monkey
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:52] <Kilos> wait i gotta find a command
[17:52] <superfly> kbmonkey: nah, they already have lots of those at Microsoft :-P
[17:52] <kbmonkey> kekeke
[17:53] <Kilos>  "sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1"
[17:53] <superfly> Kilos: that's only if PC2 can't ping 8.8.8.8
[17:53] <nuvolari>  ah, hier is die apie ook
[17:53] <nuvolari> howdy kbmonkey 
[17:53] <nuvolari> g'evening superfly 
[17:54] <superfly> evening nuvolari
[17:55] <kbmonkey> hello nuvolari 
[17:55] <Kilos> maybe it was freenode superfly 
[17:56] <Kilos> i added M to nick and here now
[17:56] <Kilos> also on unity not kde as earlier
[17:58] <kbmonkey> hello SmilyBorg :)
[17:58] <SmilyBorg> Hey there
[17:58] <SmilyBorg> :-)
[17:58] <kbmonkey> i got your pm, I was away.
[17:59] <SmilyBorg> pm?
[17:59] <kbmonkey> sorry, highlight
[17:59] <SmilyBorg> oh
[17:59] <SmilyBorg> no prob
[17:59] <kbmonkey> my irssi tells me if anyone used my name while away
[17:59]  * SmilyBorg nods
[18:00] <SmilyBorg> I hadnt made the connection until then
[18:00] <Kilos> kbmonkey, just check your greeter. dont think i been to see wassup there for a while now
[18:00] <SmilyBorg> arg, closed the wrong window
[18:00] <Kilos> wb SmilyBorg 
[18:00] <Kilos> lol
[18:01] <SmilyBorg> had other rooms set on persistand and autojoin and all the background beeping gets annoying
[18:01] <Kilos> thats why i like 9 workspaces
[18:02] <Kilos> ah im only set to bloep on nick said
[18:02] <Kilos> bloep=more than beep
[18:02]  * SmilyBorg nods
[18:02] <Kilos> bell.ogg
[18:02] <kbmonkey> Kilos, bloep Kilos bleep bleep
[18:02] <SmilyBorg> pidgin has differnet sounds, but its still annoying
[18:02] <Cantide> chiptunes?
[18:03] <kbmonkey> chiptunes <3
[18:03] <SmilyBorg> but usefull if I'm actualy involved in a conversation
[18:03] <Kilos> oh you on pidgin too
[18:03] <Kilos> irc?
[18:03] <Kilos> or msn mxit etc
[18:03] <Cantide> sleep time ._.v
[18:03] <Cantide> good night
[18:03] <SmilyBorg> irc, gtalk, facebook, yahoo, msn
[18:03] <Kilos> night Cantide 
[18:03] <SmilyBorg> all in one
[18:03] <Cantide> '-'
[18:03] <kbmonkey> nite nite
[18:03] <Kilos> wow all in pidgin
[18:04] <SmilyBorg> I like having a one stop shop so to speak
[18:04] <kbmonkey> wow that is a lot of socializing
[18:04] <Kilos> just fb there drove me nuts
[18:04] <SmilyBorg> had twitter int here at one point but it got to be too much
[18:04] <kbmonkey> i talk on irc, and i talk to myself, and sometimes to the stuffed penguin
[18:04] <SmilyBorg> :-)
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:04] <SmilyBorg> I cuddle my stuffed penguin
[18:05] <SmilyBorg> great for those lonely nights
[18:05] <kbmonkey> but I can't walk the walk, as I'm sitting down atm
[18:05] <Kilos> why not use xchat for irc SmilyBorg 
[18:05] <Kilos> on another workspace
[18:05] <superfly> kbmonkey: rubber duck debugging
[18:05] <SmilyBorg> I used to use xchat, but I prefer having as few apps running as possible
[18:05]  * superfly doesn't have lonely nights anymore... these days he wishes he could have a lonely night every once in a while...
[18:05] <SmilyBorg> also I get to use pidgin on windows for when I use my gaming pc
[18:06] <Kilos> lol @sup
[18:06] <Kilos> pidgin rocks
[18:06] <SmilyBorg> superfly: lately my nights have been very busy, but I'm still not a fan of sleeping alone
[18:07] <SmilyBorg> but at least thats only some days of the week
[18:07] <Kilos> kbmonkey, it didnt greet?
[18:07] <Kilos> cow
[18:08] <kbmonkey> superfly, I found a nice list of programmer jargon you might appreciate ;) http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/07/new-programming-jargon.html
[18:08] <SmilyBorg> btw kbmonkey, Andrea has her penguin guarding the front door at the moment
[18:08] <superfly> SmilyBorg: I have a wife and 2 kids - if I was able to sleep alone, I'd get more sleep :-D
[18:08] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[18:09] <SmilyBorg> I seem to sleep worse now that I stay on my own
[18:09] <Tonberry> penguin guarding a front door
[18:09] <Tonberry> mmm
[18:09] <Tonberry> I like this idea
[18:09] <Kilos> lol
[18:09] <superfly> kbmonkey: have you seen the "wat?!" video yet?
[18:09] <SmilyBorg> one of our lug members made a bunch of stuffed penguins and was selling them for R100 each
[18:10] <kbmonkey> no I have not superfly 
[18:10] <SmilyBorg> they are sooooo cute
[18:10] <superfly> kbmonkey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEgk1Hdze0
[18:10] <kbmonkey> Kilos, the bot's idle timeout starts from when it joins a chan. then it resets whenever someone talks.
[18:11] <superfly> kbmonkey: I now have 3 yellow "rubber" ducks on my desk at work, with a big "WAT?!" note next to them, due to that video
[18:11] <kbmonkey> if nobody talks for over 5 mins, and someone joins that it has _not_ seen since it's last restart, it greets.
[18:11] <Kilos> aw KilosM joined there just before you checked
[18:12] <Kilos> but no one chatted so i dunno wassup
[18:12] <kbmonkey> i have not ibid setup yet to test it, sorry Kilos :(
[18:12] <Kilos> np
[18:13] <kbmonkey> thanks superfly. im going onto the 8ta sim to check it, my voda signal cant even load my gmail. lol
[18:13] <Kilos> it only greets in the home channel hey?
[18:13] <kbmonkey> i hope i can ssh back in, 8ta seemed to block me on that.
[18:13] <Kilos> superfly, have you figured why win8 is downloading so slow
[18:14] <Kilos> if it does again fone them kbmonkey 
[18:15] <Kilos> brb i go see if kde accepts pc2 now
[18:15] <SmilyBorg> this video is so funny
[18:15] <kbmonkey> brb...
[18:15] <Tonberry> he managed to do that without even starting to pick on php
[18:16] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[18:16] <SmilyBorg> surely those resutls are interperator dependant though?
[18:16]  * Tonberry shrugs
[18:16] <SmilyBorg> eish and there goes my spelling
[18:16] <SmilyBorg> oh well, still good for a laugh
[18:18] <SmilyBorg> quick question, way off topic. Does anyone know where I can get hot water, cold water or machine wash dye by thursday?
[18:18] <SmilyBorg> preferably in the durban area
[18:21] <kbmonkey> yey 8ta is working again :)
[18:21] <SmilyBorg> :-)
[18:22] <KilosK> yay
[18:22] <KilosK> something in kde settings superfly 
[18:22] <KilosK> can ping 8.8.8.8 and pidgin connects
[18:22] <KilosK> only no irc
[18:24] <superfly> KilosK: which freenode server is xchat trying to connect to?
[18:25] <KilosK> it says cycling to next server over and over
[18:26] <KilosK> then same unknown host maybe you misspelled it
[18:26] <kbmonkey> superfly, wat! that is just too funny! :D
[18:26] <superfly> KilosK: well, give me any one of those servers then
[18:27] <KilosK> it doesnt name them superfly 
[18:27] <KilosK> hehe
[18:27] <KilosK> says looking up irc.freenode.net then unknown host
[18:28] <superfly> KilosK: try "chat.freenode.net"
[18:28] <KilosK> maybe if i close this xchat that one will connect
[18:28] <KilosK> ok sec
[18:30] <kbmonkey> SmilyBorg, how was your monday?
[18:31] <SmilyBorg> kbmonkey, it was ok. was rather sleepy though. hadn't been sleeping well stressing about saturday
[18:32] <SmilyBorg> slept much better on saturday night though, but still working through the deficit 
[18:32] <SmilyBorg> you?
[18:32] <kbmonkey> it was a long wait at work to get back to my pc. installed a new crunchbang and configuring :)
[18:33] <SmilyBorg> sounds like fun ;-)
[18:34] <SmilyBorg> I dont really see the rest of my week being all that restfull, its about as packed as last week
[18:34] <KilosK> nope same thing
[18:35] <kbmonkey> lets hope you get better sleep. i find reading a book at night helps distract your brain from those dwelling thoughts
[18:36] <kbmonkey> busy with the Cryptonomicon
[18:36] <SmilyBorg> went searching for dye for ropes this evening and couldn't  find any. my mom is helping me dye my hair tomorrow night. seeing Andrea on Wednesday. hopefully dying ropes on thurday, plus packing goodies for friday and painting my nails. Friday morning going to home affairs, hopefully a nap, then getting ready for the party
[18:36] <KilosK> chat.freenode.net unknown host
[18:37] <SmilyBorg> I've got a copy of cryptonomicon here somewhere. got half way though it some hears back, but never finished it
[18:37] <SmilyBorg> I tend to watch tv series untill I fall asleep
[18:37] <SmilyBorg> or movies
[18:37] <SmilyBorg> I find with books that my mind caries on going even when my eyes give out
[18:40] <kbmonkey> funny, I find that happens to me with movies :p
[18:40] <SmilyBorg> I find it less so with movies, but its even worse with audio books
[18:40] <KilosK> try reading books on cell
[18:40] <SmilyBorg> honestly, these days I do most of my recreational "reading" via audio books
[18:41] <KilosK> makes me yawn after 30 mins
[18:41] <KilosK> lol 
[18:41] <SmilyBorg> I'm part way through a book on my cell, but its not great for low light
[18:42] <KilosK> you mst try them books from gutenburg
[18:42] <SmilyBorg> at lease I can switch to my tablet, but it's also not optimal for low light
[18:42] <KilosK> i forget the reader to use, got lekker settings
[18:42] <SmilyBorg> and after the artical I saw today, I'm a bit woried about getting a kindle
[18:42] <Tonberry> o
[18:43] <SmilyBorg> the kindle app for android is prety cool
[18:43] <kbmonkey> the only audio books i enjoyed are escapepod.org
[18:43] <KilosK> qioo thingie
[18:43] <SmilyBorg> but you still get that lcd bleed through of the back light
[18:43] <SmilyBorg> ooh, I used to listen to escape pod. good stuff
[18:43] <kbmonkey> the only problem with paperbacks is you cant grep them
[18:44] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[18:44] <KilosK> night all of you sleep tight
[18:44] <KilosK> see you morrow
[18:45] <KilosK> nag nuvolari 
[18:45] <kbmonkey> Maaz, tell kilosk goodnight!
[18:45] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Okay, I'll tell KilosK on freenode
[18:46] <SmilyBorg> brb, need to grab some food
[18:50] <SmilyBorg> back
[18:51] <kbmonkey> that was super fast!
[18:51] <SmilyBorg> hehe, just warmed up a can of woolies soup
[18:51] <SmilyBorg> kinda lazy tonight
[18:51] <zeref> huuurrmmmmm
[18:51] <kbmonkey> also had soup and toasts. mmm
[18:52] <SmilyBorg> though I seem to be lazy most nights that there isn't someone around to cook for
[18:55] <kbmonkey> here is my desktop I cooked up: http://postimage.org/image/51ohfssm1/
[18:55] <SmilyBorg> wow, nice and clean
[18:56] <kbmonkey> that is the default wallpaper.
[18:56] <kbmonkey> it runs xfce
[18:56] <kbmonkey> but im looking to try dwm or something another
[18:56] <SmilyBorg> hmm, does anyone else get an ad for the We Vibe 3 on that page?
[18:56] <SmilyBorg> or is it just me?
[18:57] <SmilyBorg> cool
[18:57] <SmilyBorg> haven't heard of dwm
[18:57] <Tonberry> ads?
[18:57] <kbmonkey> really?! hehe. i have adblock.
[18:57]  * Tonberry pets adblock
[18:57] <SmilyBorg> at the bottom of the postimage.org link
[18:57] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[18:57]  * Kerbero 's mindfilter blocked the ads out
[18:58] <SmilyBorg> oh well. at least it's informative, I was only aware of the 2, didnt know the 3 was out
[18:58] <kbmonkey> pausing adblock, i also get the vibe ad. haha
[18:58] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[18:58] <charlvn> good evening
[18:58] <kbmonkey> i guess my desktop can be considered geek pron
[18:58] <SmilyBorg> :-) yup
[18:59] <kbmonkey> clean, smooth and a pleasure to use. ahem, okay next topic :p
[18:59] <SmilyBorg> hi charlvn
[18:59] <SmilyBorg> hehe. mmmmm, that could be taken so many ways
[18:59] <kbmonkey> hello charlvn 
[19:00] <SmilyBorg> funny, was listening to linux outlaws today and there was talk of but plugs and porn stars and stuff thanks to the unity shopping lens
[19:01] <SmilyBorg> it seems to do predictive searching as you type so if you are typing "analyser" for instance, you get some interesting results after typing the 4th character
[19:02] <SmilyBorg> anyway, I supose this channel should probably be kept pg13 or so?
[19:02] <kbmonkey> yes, it probably should :D
[19:03] <kbmonkey> lest w suffer the fury of the internet police
[19:03]  * SmilyBorg nods
[19:03] <SmilyBorg> oh well, I guess that's what IM is for ;-)
[19:04] <kbmonkey> lol!
[19:05] <kbmonkey> I do so miss tiling, as windows overlap others.
[19:07] <superfly> SmilyBorg: apparently Canonical ceded and added a filter, as well as an "off" switch
[19:08]  * Tonberry misses 'debian with a nice installer'
[19:08] <SmilyBorg> last I heard, the off switch turned off internet access for all lenses, so the video lens no longer showed you tube and the picture lens didnt show facebook etc, but that was last I heard
[19:08] <superfly> Tonberry: I've been toying with the idea of moving to debian
[19:08] <SmilyBorg> I just uninstalled the shopping lens
[19:09] <superfly> *shrug* I use KDE, so I don't get to "enjoy" the storm in a teacup
[19:09] <Tonberry> i switched to KDE as well a few months back
[19:09] <kbmonkey> lol superfly !
[19:10] <SmilyBorg> hehe, been trying unity lately due to the llvmpipe thing
[19:10] <superfly> Kubuntu just doesn't seem to provide a very solid KDE system
[19:10] <superfly> thinking KDE on Debian might be more solid
[19:10]  * Kerbero is impressed by lubuntu
[19:13] <charlvn> hi SmilyBorg, kbmonkey 
[19:13] <charlvn> +1 lubuntu is getting really awesome
[19:16] <zeref> hmmm
[19:17] <Symmetria> ullo :)
[19:17] <zeref> k, so i need to create an application thats in both in english and afrikaans. is there a tranlation tool that will allows me to convert it to one or the other?
[19:18] <SmilyBorg> Hey Symmetria
[19:18] <kbmonkey> hello Symmetria 
[19:18] <charlvn> hi Symmetria 
[19:19] <charlvn> zeref: machine translation is really bad - you will need to do it manually
[19:19] <charlvn> zeref: there are a lot of frameworks you can use though - take a look at gnu gettext for example
[19:20] <zeref> charlvn: not the code, but the labels, buttons etc
[19:28] <Symmetria> urgh
[19:28] <Symmetria> firewalls that timeout tcp sessions that are idle annoy me
[19:28]  * Symmetria blows up the vast majority of commercial firewalls before modifying the one he runs at home to stop doing that
[19:33] <Kerbero> indeed
[19:34] <Kerbero> we have that problem with the fortinet ssl vpn and ipsec vpn we dial to get into the stellenbosch campus
[19:35] <Kerbero> actually the entire vpn hangs, but stays connected
[19:35] <Kerbero> so it is a little different
[20:31] <nuvolari> oh @#$%& *sigh*
[20:31] <nuvolari> night everyone
[20:32] <Vince-0> cya
[20:33] <kbmonkey> oh its *that* time again
[20:37] <charlvn> zeref: that's pretty obvious :) nobody wants to translate the code
[20:37] <charlvn> zeref: i was talking about the human language part ;)
[20:37] <inetpro> good evening
[20:37] <charlvn> hi inetpro 
[20:38] <charlvn> how's it going
[20:38] <inetpro> charlvn: good and yourself
[20:38] <charlvn> very good thanks
[20:38] <charlvn> just finished hanging up the last curtains
[20:38] <charlvn> i now have curtains everywhere in my house except the storage room (not that it matters)
[20:38]  * inetpro likes the idea of the audio books above
[20:39] <charlvn> reading up...
[20:39] <inetpro> just installed Audiobooks on me Nexus S
[20:39] <inetpro> 2,800+ classic audiobooks for free
[20:39] <inetpro> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.crossforward.audiobooks&hl=en
[20:40] <inetpro> not sure what quality of books you get there yet
[20:42] <inetpro> some very interesting books indeed
[20:42] <inetpro> like Exercises in Knitting
[20:43] <charlvn> that's a good one
[20:43] <charlvn> good relaxation
[20:43] <inetpro> :-)
[20:43] <charlvn> although since i got online i haven't done much knitting :)
[20:44] <charlvn> now i just browse the internet for relaxation :)
[20:45] <charlvn> ok i need to go sleep
[20:45] <charlvn> ciao all
[21:14] <Squirm> evening