[00:03] meomic: no worries, we couldn't help you, so to see you'r good now, will make us sleep better tonight :) [00:04] : ) [00:42] anyone using Mozilla's Thimble webpage maker? Curious how painful the install/setup might be? [00:47] when was 12.10 released, I missed the party! Anybody upgrade yet? [00:48] I have [00:48] And 18th? [00:49] Raytray, how'd the upgrade go? [00:50] Fairly straight forward, a few short moments was spent fixing the panel so things expanded, and icon preferences, but nothing too painful. === a is now known as Guest74514 [00:53] Raytray, roger that, thanks. [00:53] Hello xubuntu users/ people not as dumb as me. I am trying to get adobe flash to work on chromium but I cannot get it to work. Sorry if I am being dumb, I am very new to xubuntu and operating systems outside of Windows in general. Thanks! [00:53] wat [00:54] flash comes with chromium [00:54] Guest74514, what have you tried and is it showing 'missing plugin' box thing? [00:56] Apparently not. It is showing the yellow box on the top of the page saying that the plugin is missing. I tried to download it from adobe's website, but I got a bit confused by the file format. I assumed it would be an executable/runnable file, but it opens like a package. [00:56] Says: "adobe flash player required to display some elements on the webpage" [00:57] sudo apt-get install flashplugin* ? [00:58] Trying that. [01:01] seems to be doing something. Thanks for the help! [01:01] np [01:06] Guest74514, I have three boxes here running 12.04, and none of them play flash, or pandora, but they all worked using 10.04. I'm hoping 12.10 will fix things. [01:13] Why doesn't my update manager show the 12.10 upgrade? I ran the check twice. [01:18] n2diy_: in system>software sources>updates or synaptic>setting>repositories>updates you can select what release upgrades it should show: LTSs, all, or none === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:25] hello all [01:25] David-A, roger, upgrading the test box now. [01:26] anyone have a quick way to tell flashplugin-installer to look for the archive in a specified location? [01:26] or, does it look for the archive before attempting to download? [01:36] nyRednek, are you using Xubuntu to do the install, or going to the flash website? [01:41] nyRednek: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer" offers an option for you to download the tar.gz manually and if will work with it from there. [01:42] *it [01:43] David-A, I think the tar.gz package from the website might work better than the 10.04 .deb, but I haven't tested it. There is also a Firefox plugin or add on called flash aid, but that didn't work for me either. [03:49] hey... does compiz need any special things for xubuntu? [03:49] I'd like to give the cube a try [03:57] WalterN: i found, after several hours of piddling around, i was able to get compiz working with XFCE in 12.04 [03:58] i felt like it was slow, and it took a lot of hacking to be useable... and i didnt really feel like it added to the experience [03:58] what about 12.10? [03:59] the video drivers feel much better in 12.10 than was available in 12.04 [03:59] that being said, http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ is how i did it [03:59] WalterN: i did not, and am not going to use compiz anymore [03:59] as i said, i dont feel like it was worth the hassle for me [04:00] the tricky one is the window decorator... i used a .deb from 11.10 to get emerald (iirc) [04:01] just use the compiz --replace command, and know how to get to tty and reboot or whatever if you get stuck [04:05] holstein: http://mylittlefacewhen.com/f/1156/ [04:05] sounds annoying [04:11] personally, I had a bitch of a time with compiz and conky under xfce [04:11] so .. compiz got flung ;) [04:11] yeah... its not really what XFCE is about... i find by the time you get it all tricked out, its quite slow [05:01] /j #xfce [05:05] i cannot make my cobnky transperant at startup [05:05] it shows a blue screen for a while, then after some wait it becomes transperant [05:20] i found a bug [05:21] i plug in 1 USB drive (ext2fs), It has 1 partition. It is 31 GB. I have 2 icons showing my USB on the desktop and the file manager. I try clicking in to both icons, they do the same. [05:22] i'll give you the picture [05:24] http://imgur.com/RFp1M <== as you can see on my desktop, it has 2 USB. While I only connect to one and i have only 1 partition on my USB. [05:25] 12.10 [05:25] quantal quetzal [05:26] I have the same problem [05:41] One way to remove extra icons is right-click desktop and going to "desktop settings"->"Icons"-tab -> unchecking Removable Devices from "default icons". At least this worked for now. [05:43] * WalterN goes to try kdenlive [05:54] 12.10 upgrade completed, restarted, now i have a distorted login screen and no mouse. [05:55] hello everyone, i just finished setting up 12.10 and am encountering some problems with the applications menu [05:55] hello? [05:56] i deleted the settings launcher from the main menu and now when trying to re-enable it it appears in the category "others". so far i haven t found a way other "taking it out" and putting it into the main menu, nor to change the order of the icons in the main menu. What should i be looking for? anything i could do via terminal? [05:58] logged in blind, and xfce4-panel came up, but the rest of the screen is afu. [05:59] I just wanted to know the size usb drive to install xubuntu 12.10 with Unetbootin [06:00] computer crashed, clock is stuck at 01:56:51, rebooting. [06:01] hi, thanks for advice, innot. but, will it show the icon for the usb i plugged in? [06:01] disregard, logged into the console now. [06:02] ? [06:02] ubuntuone-syncd has 94% of the cpu. [06:03] n2diy_, ALT+PrtScr R,E,I,S,U,B. [06:04] suttiwit, gonna let her cook for now. [06:04] huh? [06:07] suttiwit, she's busy, let her do her stuff. [06:07] uh.. nvm [06:07] huh? [06:08] by "her" you mean a person? [06:09] suttiwit, my test box, the computer. restarted, and the xfce window is still afu, gonna log in blind again. [06:10] ..., i thought you mean your girlfriend :P Never mind, then. [06:11] suttiwit, no, she is on an other channel ;) [06:12] what's nvm mean? [06:12] n2diy_, nvm = never mind. [06:12] slang [06:12] 10-4 [06:15] 1337? [06:17] so... now I'm logged into my test box with the 12.10 upgrade. The bottom 1/8th of the screen is normal, but the top 7/8th is messed up, and I have now mouse? Can't do anything in Xwindow, but I can get to a CLI console, help!? [06:17] no mouse. [06:18] fresh install [06:18] now [06:21] suttiwit, I just upgraded the box from 12.04 to 12.10, isn't that fresh enough? Just did killall xfce4-panel, and restarted it, no change. I think I need to reconfigure X? [06:21] don't be angry with me. [06:21] :( [06:22] n2diy_, burn iso for 12.10 and reinstall. [06:22] upgrade = not so fresh. reinstall = fresh. [06:25] suttiwit, roger that, that's a pita, and it's late. I'd rather catch some Orionids. [06:26] hmm [06:27] audacity does not have any menus? [06:27] suttiwit, there is a way to reconfigure X with apt-get, but I can't recall it now? [06:32] Do you know why there is a huge difference in version number between alacarte on Precise and Quantal? [06:33] Precise: 0.13.2-2ubuntu4, Quantal: 3.5.5-0ubuntu1 [06:33] hello, i would like to add a custom key combination to minimize all windows "windows key + D". I found the settings but I am not sure how I have to define the value in order for it to work. Any suggestions? [06:34] how do I start or restart my X window manager, xfwm? [06:34] n2diy_: log out [06:34] would be the best sollution [06:35] ChesterX: press super, then D ? [06:35] xfwm4 "cannot open display"? [06:35] n2diy_: you have to restart everything, thats why log out and back in [06:36] baizon, ok. [06:37] baizon, shutdown -h now in progress. [06:38] i ment logging out, not restarting the whole system, but this will do it too :) [06:39] baizon, didn t work [06:40] baizon, no change, X log in still afu. [06:40] but whats the problem? [06:40] ChesterX: is the key kombination not already set? [06:41] please check it [06:41] n2diy_: afu? [06:42] baizon, all fouled up. [06:42] n2diy_: driver problem? [06:43] which one are you using? [06:43] i don t think so [06:43] baizon, maybe, it worked in 12.04, before I upgraded to 12.10 [06:44] n2diy_: are you usnig the open-source or the proprietary? [06:45] baizon, whatever Xubuntu installed? I just went into menu>system>update manager, and told it to upgrade to 12.10.h [06:46] n2diy_: try to install the proprietary drivers [06:46] If you have issues with editing the menu, you can downgrade alacarte and it works. [06:46] go to software sources and additionaly drivers [06:46] 12.10 not 12.10h [06:47] baizon, I can't, my mouse isn't functioning now!? [06:47] hmm [06:48] sudo apt-get install fglrx [06:48] that will do it too [06:48] baizon, I can get to a console terminal, but how can I do it with apt-get, or whatever? [06:48] ok [06:49] wait a sec [06:49] you got graphics problem or mouse problems? [06:49] problems* [06:49] baizon, both [06:49] a ok [06:50] baizon, you still want my to install fglrx? [06:50] yes please [06:50] 10-4 [06:51] cooking [06:52] eta 5 minutes [06:55] reading 12.10 is using 3.5 kernel, did they backport the further bufferbloat improvements from 3.6? [06:58] nonuby: i dont think so [06:58] nonuby: but you can use the default 3.6 kernel from: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [06:58] baizon, thanks! [06:59] is there any on demand tv (paid or otherwise) that is compatible with Ubuntu. seems netflix, lovefilm and amazon are out the question [07:00] i would of thought some announcements/partners be public by now especially given the hints around ubuntu tv [07:01] cooking is done, rebooting. [07:23] baizon, fglrx was installed, no change. [07:24] well can't help anymore, sorry. Have to go... class, gl with your problem [07:26] baizon, roger that, thanks for trying, 73 [07:33] hey does anyone know why I cannot seem to get menu icons to show? [07:34] despite being turned on [07:52] Hello [07:53] !hi [07:53] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [08:58] Hi. I uninstalled thunar in Xfce virtualbox. Now I cannot login into it. How can I rescue it from recovery console? I am now in recov con. [08:59] Belserusk: were other applications removed too when you removed thunar ? [09:00] ah, had something along the same line yesterday. was fixed here by reinstalling the xfce4-desktop (spelling?) meta package. which also pulls in thunar. [09:00] removing just thunar won't stop a login - unless other apps went too [09:17] well_laid_lawn, Yotson [09:17] I cannot install anything in RC. [09:18] what's RC ? [09:18] release candidate ? [09:18] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [09:19] recov cons [09:20] well_laid_lawn, I am using Linux Mint 13 Xfce. [09:21] Belserusk: best to try a mint channel then [09:21] hey everyone [09:21] I don't know about it [09:21] hello is there somewhere a .rar xubuntu to download? [09:21] ! hi > lestus [09:21] lestus, please see my private message [09:21] oops [09:22] well_laid_lawn, But it is an Xfce problem. Not solely a Mint or Xubuntu problem. [09:22] Belserusk: this channel is for xubuntu - try #xfce or #mint [09:23] well_laid_lawn, fair enough [09:23] Guest82103: why do you want a rar? [09:23] !xubuntu [09:23] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [09:24] !Xubuntu-Channels [09:24] Support: #xubuntu | Developer Discussion: #xubuntu-devel | Offtopic chatter: #xubuntu-offtopic [09:24] huuumm! [09:25] Guest82103: the operating system comes as an iso [09:25] !iso [09:25] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [09:26] Guest82103: see this website - http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [09:27] well_laid_lawn , i ve learned something , i ll take a look [09:27] luck :) [09:28] what about plop! is this a right channel to talk about it or should i try hardware channel? [09:29] I don't know what plop is [09:30] !info plop [09:30] Package plop does not exist in quantal [09:30] wow thats nice, the bot can do a package check even [09:31] she's a clever bot [09:31] !bot [09:31] Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [09:32] and what is lubuntu? [09:32] haha nice [09:32] its got lxde [09:32] !lubuntu [09:32] lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [09:33] it uses openbox as the window manager iirc [09:33] which is the lightest lubuntu or xubuntu? [09:34] umm [09:34] I'd say lubuntu - but it can take a little more setting up afaik [09:34] yea [09:34] what he said [09:34] i prefer xubuntu [09:35] do both have same packages than ubuntu? [09:35] still feels light but well configured imo out of the box [09:35] they all use the same repos [09:35] !repos [09:35] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [09:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu [09:37] prob has some info on it [09:47] hey how do you reply to people? [09:48] !tab [09:48] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [09:48] and then? [09:48] lest + makes lestus [09:48] well_laid_lawn, AH NEVER MIND [09:48] woops [09:48] caps [09:48] heh [09:48] that's what you meant ? [09:48] well_laid_lawn, yea [09:49] cheers [09:49] sweet [09:49] check this [09:50] i went and bought a 64Gb, 8chan fast usb stick, and running a full installation of xubuntu on it directly booting from it [09:51] its multichannel so hopefully the memory chips won't die for a while [09:51] it runs quick? I thought using a mem stick would have speed advantages [09:52] very quick [09:52] but [09:52] you have to get one that has at least 110Mb/s write speed and multichann [09:53] I just use them for sneaker net [09:53] otherwise you try and copy files to it, while doing anything else it will halt the system to a crawl [09:53] ahh ok [09:53] makes sense [09:53] sneaker net? [09:54] pull out usb - walk it to other comp while wearing sneakers [09:54] sneaker net [09:54] when the lan is down [09:54] LOL [09:54] yea well [09:54] hahaha [09:54] that's what i do [09:55] but because of decent capacity i hold a fair bit of stuff on it also [09:55] i LOVE Blackbird [09:55] finally [09:59] hello everybody, i am trying to access a shared drive that is present in my work place's network. What do I need to install/enable to see/access it from ubuntu? [09:59] !cifs [09:59] !samba [09:59] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [10:00] Do you want a permanent mount or just to open it quick? Open the file manager, press Ctrl+L and write smb://servername for å quick connection [10:00] GuessWho: ^^ [10:01] Kagee, the servername being the ip in this case? [10:01] you can use either ip or name, yes. [10:02] It depends on the server configuration how well it works [10:09] hi! [10:11] who are the best? XUBUNTU 12,10 or LINUX MINT 13 XFCE ?????... Thanks in advance. [10:12] !best | xubuntu326 [10:12] xubuntu326: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Polls are highly discouraged to be taken on this channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, please ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [10:13] thanks!! [10:13] i like Xubuntu!! [10:14] but Linux Mint have good view [10:59] hi [11:01] Helo [11:02] Anyone got time to answer some xubuntu questions? [11:04] To make Xubuntu 12.10 fit on a CD (unlike Ubuntu), quite a few default applications were removed. In Xubuntu 12.10, you'll no longer find Synaptic Package Manager, GIMP or Startup Disk Creator installed by default. There are also less games: only Mines and Sudoku are available on the CD. [11:04] so xubuntu 12.10 will no longer have synaptic , gimp... installed by default? [11:05] correct [11:06] divisionmd: just ask your question, if someone has time, they'll reply [11:08] am I blind or is there no option for disabling mirroring in xfce display settings? Oo [11:09] anyone with Ubuntu/Xubuntu skills got time for some questions? [11:11] @xubuntu cd: what is that important and takes that much space? [11:13] smellysally: you can use arandr (gui) or xrandr (terminal) for that [11:42] when cai i find a list with apps. instaled by default in cubuntu 12.10? [11:42] can* [11:43] xubuntu* [11:45] Hello all [11:45] hi [11:46] По русски можно болтать? =) [11:46] попытайся:) [11:46] Как пробросить com порты в rdp? [11:47] !ru | xubuntu962, uzver [11:47] xubuntu962, uzver: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [11:47] yeah [11:47] knome: thx [11:48] no problem [11:51] xuserr, for x86_64 iso http://goo.gl/jSABj and for 32bit iso http://goo.gl/N894A [11:51] thanks [11:52] Hi. [11:53] Is xubuntu 12.10 available for PPC? [11:53] !ppc [11:53] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [11:53] Community or not, 12.04 works :) [11:54] Wizard: also try #ubuntu-ppc [12:00] I asked. [12:05] hi all, did they fix the issue with double device icons on desktop? [12:09] uxi, i've got that too [12:10] uxi, heck even a floppy drive has appeared twice even though i don't have a floppy drive [12:10] lestus, same here [12:11] i'm trying different distros... so i'll move on; too bad since it looked kinda cool [12:15] uxi, ah fair nuf, well up to you, if its a deal breaker, i personally dont think its a big deal and i really like the xubuntu compared to other distros [12:17] lestus, yea well i just tried a few distros, i may come back after i see the others :) [12:18] uxi, which others are you going to try? [12:19] I have disabled all drive ions on the desktop. Before that i had all hard drive partitions (from windows) on the desktop [12:19] lestus, i tried crunchbang, ubuntu, xubuntu, mandriva; i'm going to check mageia, lubuntu, fedora... and i'll check distrowatch :) [12:20] ah, i tried also mint [12:24] pod, that could be a solution, but i won't be able to access usb sticks from the desktop (right click -> remove/eject) [12:25] uxi: They should be visible in Thunar too. [12:26] Yeah, thats a problem. I would like to have removable drives on the desktop but somehow my windows partitions shows up as removable drives too... Perhaps if i automount them at startup into a folder somewhere? [12:27] pod, idk, i hope they fix this thing soon [12:27] I don't have any partitions besides separate /home. [12:28] pod, at least anything that is in fstab is not listed as a removable device. i add partitions i simply want to hide there with the option noauto (not mounting on boot) [12:29] ok! so that would be a fix then. Thanks! [12:31] np [12:33] so umm installed NetBeans, but it's not running properly, keeps trying to load the project and hangs [15:10] anyone know how to map key to command in xubuntu 10.04 [15:10] ou [15:10] i see "application shortcuts" but it only allows me to put in command - wheres keycode [15:10] good xubuntu 12.10 [15:11] rhin0: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu [15:12] this is horrible [15:13] all i want to do is put a command onto a key ...... thats not even for 10.04 [15:13] i run 10.04 [15:14] rhin0: so, those keyboard settings are not found in 10.04? correct? do you see other keyboard settings.. i seem to remember it being under "keyboard" [15:14] rhin0: it works the same way [15:14] rhin0: i was thinking most things havent changed much.. just let me and the other voluteers know how that works for you and we'll go from there [15:14] rhin0: you enter the command, then it asks you to press the key [15:15] rhin0: ah, it's the worng dialog, go to settings->keyboard->shortcuts [15:15] rhin0: second tab [15:15] right im in application short cuts [15:15] "application shortcuts" actually [15:15] i put in "add" -- it askse me for command (fair enough) [15:16] then thats it -- nothing [15:16] rhin0: scroll down, there is a "+ Add" button there [15:16] i've presse3d it [15:16] it asks for command [15:16] accepts command [15:16] nothing [15:16] displays c0mmand - key = blank [15:17] rhin0: click on the 'shortcut' column in the table and you can set it again [15:17] rhin0: double-click, sorry [15:17] http://oi46.tinypic.com/2qsyo2w.jpg [15:17] rhin0: yeah, press OK [15:18] click on short cut on the bar? [15:18] i press ok there and nothing [15:18] i usually test the commands in the terminal as well [15:18] rhin0: after you press ok, it will ask you to press the key [15:18] non intuitive [15:18] i think i see that [15:18] it doesn't say "press key" [15:19] I can't remember what it said exactly in 10.4 [15:19] well im there [15:19] thanks [15:19] may as well use the crap windows key for something [15:19] rhin0: note that you probably want to start a terminal with python in it, not just python [15:19] they don't even use it [15:19] well I just chose that for whatever [15:20] to test [15:20] i run my app [15:20] I see, ok [15:20] ta. [15:20] they?... super+r runs commands in windows, or it used to... you can ask in the windows channels [15:20] was going to use function keys but they're small on this laptop keybaord [15:20] if i had to run windows i wouldn't run a compter [15:21] im not saying you should, or shouldnt, just that the super key is mapped to something in windows [15:22] its still not RUNNING my command though [15:23] rhin0: super by itself does nothing, it's a modifier key [15:23] rhin0: like shift or ctrl [15:23] so it won't run a command from the command shell? [15:23] rhin0: i remember it being a little tricky the first time i did it.. you might want to try something simpler.. soemthing that doesnt open in a temrinal... try mapping a terminal to super+t for examply [15:23] example* [15:23] ok [15:25] i am running 12.10 and when i do Alt+ F2 i see it takes lot of time to start. I need this shortcut desperately to work. Can someone help me [15:26] G__81: i use kupfer.. its gnome-do like. theres synapse.. will a work around like that do? do you have realistic expectations of the hardware? [15:27] i map to ctrl-a -- my command [15:27] nothing when i press it [15:28] rhin0: what command? have you tried super+t? [15:28] maybe super+t to "xfce4-terminal" [15:28] ah [15:28] shell out [15:28] then run the thing [15:29] rhin0: this is more to see that you can get *any* keyboard mapping to work.. [15:30] im about to give up [15:30] make applet [15:30] panel [15:31] rhin0: do what works... super+t doesnt work? doesnt open a terminal? [15:31] no [15:32] rhin0: then its either that you dont have xfce4-terminal installed, or you are not implementing the shortcut properly, or your harware is not supporting them somehow [15:35] i'll do without [15:36] kupfer might be a nice option for you as well... or synapse [15:37] why if i run an applet it an't even see the files [15:38]